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Friday, May 08, 2009
Brent Bozell :: Townhall.com Columnist
The Obscenity Blackout
by Brent Bozell
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When the late Playboy centerfold and tabloid-media celebrity Anna Nicole Smith graced the white marble steps of the Supreme Court in 2006, the network news operations couldn't get enough of the story. The blonde floozy had married a fabulously wealthy Texas oilman who happened to be 62 years her senior, and now she wanted to collect his estate. It was a serious legal challenge, and a salacious gossip story, and the networks covered it religiously.

But when a Supreme Court decision affects the networks directly, and adversely, there's no coverage.

The Supreme Court ruled on the case of ABC, CBS, NBC and Fox all suing the federal government for the right to drop F-bombs and S-bombs on young children. The Second Circuit had agreed with the networks that regulation of "fleeting" expletives was "arbitrary and capricious." There was great interest then. Both ABC and CBS put on full stories to discuss the issues. But last week, the Supreme Court overturned the lower court. I bet you didn't know that, and if you didn't, it's because the networks didn't report it.

The verdict emerged once in casual conversation on NBC's "Today," in the fourth hour hosted by Kathie Lee Gifford and Hoda Kotb. Actor Hugh Jackman described the latest character he was playing as a "prick." Jackman's subsequent can-I-say-that routine was an exercise in light comedy, as they all laughed about the Supreme Court decision that no one explained.

The Fox News Channel, with 24 hours of news, offered only a tiny brief from Bret Baier on "Special Report" on the verdict: "The Supreme Court today ruled 5-4 in favor of a government policy that threatens broadcasters with fines if even a single curse is uttered on live television. But the justices sent the FCC guideline back to an appeals court to determine whether it violates the First Amendment." To his credit, Baier disclosed his own company's crusade for televised indecency: "The challenge to the rule was mounted by Fox Television, which is a corporate partner of Fox News."

The media could have entertained viewers with snippets of the court's opinion, especially the dissenters. They are eye-openers.

Justice Stephen Breyer bizarrely insisted that the airing of F-bombs is an "important governmental objective." Breyer wrote regulatory agencies are independent "to secure important governmental objectives, such as the constitutionally related objective of maintaining broadcast regulation that does not bend too readily before the political winds."

Breyer might protest that he's supporting a broad First Amendment right. But he's one of those liberal oddballs who think the F-bomb is an "important government objective," but freedom of speech on TV political commercials is not. He favored suppression of free speech when the McCain-Feingold speech restrictions were on the docket.

Justice Stevens sounded just like the network lobbyists when he lamely claimed that saying F-bombs as an exclamation is not a reference to sex. "As any golfer who has watched his partner shank a short approach knows, it would be absurd to argue the suggestion that the resultant four-letter word uttered on the golf course describes sex or excrement and is therefore indecent." But if it isn't an indecent word, why did Justice Stewart feel compelled to label it merely a "four-letter word"?

Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg's dissent was just aggressively un-factual: "the unscripted fleeting expletives at issue here are neither deliberate nor relentlessly repetitive." Two of the expletives at issue were uttered by Nicole Richie on a Fox-aired Billboard Awards show as a promotion of Richie's and Paris Hilton's new farm-based Fox "reality" show. As award presenters, Hilton warned Richie, "This is a live show. Watch the bad language." Nicole added, "Why do they even call it ‘The Simple Life'? Have you ever tried to get cow s--t out of a Prada purse? It's not so f---ing simple."

The exchange reeked of scripting. In fact, Richie later confessed there was a script, and she tweaked it to make herself sound less ditzy. (Mission not accomplished.) For Justice Ginsburg to claim this wasn't "deliberate" is simply untrue. As to the "repetitive" argument, we are to believe that "cow s--t" and "f---ing" is acceptable if uttered once?

It also would have been nice for newscasters to pass along Justice Scalia's cogent brief against the shameless networks: "To predict that complete immunity for fleeting expletives, ardently desired by broadcasters, will lead to a substantial increase in fleeting expletives seems to us an exercise in logic rather than clairvoyance." He said they seek "a standardless regime of unbridled discretion."

That is what the networks want. If ever they achieve their goals, they'll celebrate to the high heavens and call it news. But when they lose, as they did last week, mum's the word.

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This made it to the Supreme Court?
We're worse off than I thought.

And roomate? Sounds like 7s lives
in a real hotbed of morality. Of couse we knew that liberals don't care about "the children" unless they can use them for power or money. Look at abortion.

He also reverse the cake quote so that it doest'n make sense. Government school, maybe?

Rich
Liberals don't care about children? I don't know whether to be offended or just amused by your ignorance. Of course, conservatives care about kids...at least up until the time they are born. Go tell the children of New Orleans how much conservatives care about them.

Obama's National Health Care Blackout
Continues as the Congress prepares to jam down Obama's National Health Care Plan. The details are being worked out in secret and the jam down will probably come this summer. Did you know that Obama plans to cut costs by rationing health care especially or particularly for the elderly?

http://patriotskyline.blogspot.com/2009/05/obama-indicates- euthanasia-cost-saving.html

The Power to Offend
Eight years of the Clinton presidency officially ushered in the coarsening of the culture. It hardly needs counting the ways: Oral sex in the Oval Office, Presidential DNA on Monica’s blue dress, erectile dysfunction commercials accepted as normal on primetime TV, wardrobe malfunction at super bowl halftime entertainment. These are minor trivialities compared to what really should be construed as offensive: the practice of abortion on demand as acceptable form of birth control.

Deploying the Supreme Court to adjudicate on the dichotomy of meaning of profanities is a colossal waste of taxpayer money. The issue should be whether or not the FCC has the mandate to prohibit use of certain words and/or phrases from the airwaves. Attempting to legislate or adjudicate a question of taste is an exercise in futility. Taste is necessarily subjective. For this very reason alone the FCC’s list of prohibited words should be beyond question by anybody, the Supreme Court justices, included.

What the Supreme Court needs adjudicate on is whether or not Standards of Decency can be promulgated by law. My take is any attempt at doing so would only give the trial lawyers more opportunity to practice their profession, lucratively.

Asumen Acumen at http://parallaxadhoc.blogtownhall.com/

A couple of points
Neither of which bears directly on the legal argument:

1. An expletive captured by a news camera at the site of an accident is qualitatively different from one -- scripted or not -- uttered by a celebrity in a studio. Hugh Jackman and Nicole Richie aren't children suffering from Tourette's Syndrome. They are grownup professionals who make fabulous amounts of money off their purported ability to communicate.

2. I wonder whether the public or the courts would be so tolerant of fleeting use of the n-word, the f-word, or other politically incorrect expressions.

news
I get my news from South Park where they banned the word "nig*er guy" also Judges should not be appointed if they served in the Navy

Odd Coincidence
That this ruling should come down at the same time that the prez "outlawed" national prayer day. Amen, brother. Maybe the big O can nominate Perez Hilton for the Supreme Court! Cool. Mike Judge (Idiocracy) is a prophet, but it may not take 500 years! Long live Cornholio.

You put your finger on it,Paleocon...
...I have always believed that everyone believes in censorship;they only disagree about what should be censored.Whenever someone tells me that banning "such and such" is "censorship",I mention a few other words,and they say "well,that's different"."That's "hate speech",etc.

We will always have censorship,but what is censored is continually changing.

Another censorship problem
This is one more example of a case that should not have been before the Court.

I don't care for foul language and I avoid the company of those who use it in routine discourse. I also avoid it on the airwaves. My TV came fully equipped with a channel selector and an off button. If a program offends me, I use those two options to censor the program. If I encounter something that is far beyond the pale, I don't watch it and I let the sponsers know why I don't.

Better yet, I keep the idiot box turned off a lot and read books that uplift my spirit, educate me, or amuse me without insulting either my intelligence or my morals.

Nam65-66
First I want to thank you for serving. That conflict was over by the time I was out of high school. I did my duty anyway, but nothing I encountered compares with what you and others went through.

Second, thanks for the good word. The First Amendment allows censorship of libel, slander, sedition, incitement to riot, fraud, and so on. What else it forbids, or allows government to forbid, is a fit subject for discussion. And you're right -- popular opinion and judicial rulings change often. It'll be interesting to see how censorship evolves under a Democratic regime.

By the way, isn't it curious that First Amendment absolutists are "civil libertarians," but Second Amendment absolutists are gun nuts?

Vocabulary Cripples
I've noticed that many playwrights lean on the F-word because they have no talent and their vocabularies are limited. I've worked with men who think gutter language is cool and prided themselves on being able to relate to lower classes.

It's amazing that men, and women, who have the best college educations and high-paid jobs resort to the four-letter words of the lower classes, which never had the educational opportunities of their bosses.

Four-letter words have no meaning. They are catch-all phrases which reflect, not the person's intelligence, but his or her vocabulary deficit. Often, they are a juvenile attempt to shock people but only reflect the abject inability of a person to express himself or herself in more explicit and accurate terminology.

HYPOCRISY
Both sides do it but the Left gets this one.They demand laws to stop 'hate speech',which is speech someone,somewhere finds hateful.But then the Left demands no censorship on profanity,which is speech someone,somewhere,finds profane.Pick one.
As far as the children of New Orleans.Your reference,I'm sure,is to Katrina.Dem Mayor.Dem Governor.Repub Prez.The Dem Mayor was there.The Dem Gov was 90 miles away.The Repub Prez was 1084 miles away."WHERE'S GEORGE BUSH? WHERE'S GEORGE BUSH?It just shows how ignorant,infantile,and pathetic people become when they follow the Leftist mantra of having somebody else(the local,State,Feds)do your thinking.You can blame a lot of things on that clown,W,but N.O. ain't one of 'em.And NO,I'm not a Repub.I'm just a fellow with common sense,knows right from wrong,and knows that if you let others run your life,tell you your every move,give you what THEY think you should have,don't squawk about the outcome.

Judicial activist?
What is activist about Justice Scalia's decision here? All he did was affirm the right of a regulatory agency of the US government to level ifnes and penalties against the groups it is supposed to regulate. The fact of the matter is that if someone on the news lets slip a word that is found to be offensive, there is a tendency to forgive that. But what they are trying to protect at the networks is not an excited utterance, but a chance to use any type of language they see fit at anytime they want. If the airwaves are "public" then the FCC should be able to regulate them as they see fit, and the networks should not be in a position to determine the sanctions they face when they break the rules.

Yes,Paleo...
..."Civil libertarians" and "gun nuts"!He who controls the definitions controls the argument.At present that is the media and members of the Supreme Court.

Edamon 50...
...right on!

Mama taught me
that use of profanity indicates a lack of intelligence. How is that not still true?

If you don't have a vocabulary big enough so that you need all the four letter fill in words, it's easy enough to get "one."

When did the F-bomb become so fashionable? A foul mouth woman is a turn off to me. A sign of base crudeness and immaturity.

Sit down at a big job interview and start with a string of profanity - see how far that gets you.

All languages evolve over time. Ours has devolved and it seems to be driven mostly by people from the left.

Happy Mother's Day, Mom!


The coursening of society
It all started in the 60s with the social revolution we had, and court decisions to take a more literal interpretation of the 1st ammendment. The enertainment industry went wild and it became trendy (especially for young people) to use profanity and other anti-social acts as a symbol of their individuality; proof that they weren't "owned" by "the system".

And like Senator Moynihan once famously said...we're defining deviancy downward. What used to be unthikable behavior is now considered "normal". It gets a bit worse with each generation.

So we literally have more freedom to do whatever we want to do. But the price is that america is an increasingly nasty place to live in.

soap
Evidently no soap was used when a lot of today's
"adults" were children.
it was called potty mouth , talked like a sewer, and various other colorful phrases.
Now that language is used in stand up comedy routines routinely.
I wonder what the language using to teach is like.

Badger 1:44
your reference to Hurricane Katrina and conservatives is incredibly stupid. The wonderful Mayor of New Orleans and the concerned Governor of Louisiana were die-hard liberals. What the heck did these bleeding heart's do, prior to the disaster, to help??? Nothing.

The federal governments job, after a disaster, is to help pick up the pieces, not evacuate people before. That's what they did.

Of course, you idiot liberals feel that the federal government is responsible for our lives, cradle-to-grave. We conservatives don't!

One fact you won't hear in the mainstream media. More white people were killed and more white people were made homeless during Katrina than any other racial group.

Another fact. The people of the greater New Orleans area are, collectively, the most independent (stubborn!) people in America. That's why many of them refused to evacuate. I lived in New Orleans when Hurricane Andrew was bearing down on the city. I got my family 200 miles north before it came to town. Most stayed! It's in their blood. Ever heard of a Hurricane Party?

Second hand smoke
I don't understand why this is an issue before the supreme court. Cigarette's are banned in public and taxed largely because of the recognized negative effects on the health of the population. What is so objectionable of taxing those entities that choose to polute the airways with their vulgar language. It does not diminish their right to say anything, but merely tries to minimize the occurances. Maybe the money obtained through these fines could be used to teach people how to express themselves more civily.

Be Fruitful and Mulitply
During my first year of teaching, I taught primarily sophomore courses. This was in the late eighties. Even then the use of the F-word was common. One day I explained to my lovely cherubs that the F-word meant "to be fruitly and multiply." I started saying "be fruitly and mulitply" when I described a pencil, a stapler, and so on. It only took a day for my students to realize how stupid using the F-word as a common adjective made them appear. After that day, I rarely heard the F-word used in my presence.

Liberals never object to the "Fbomb"?
They did when Cheney uttered it!

The wisdom of my dad...
I once asked my father why he didn't curse. He explained to me that cursing was something a fool substituted for intelligent discourse.

He was right.

Sure Gayle
That's exactly what we need is more taxes..right!
Maybe if you get your way we can have another bloated government agency with a speech czar.

One would argue that the recent over taxing of cigarettes don't have nothing to do with governments caring for your health but instead covering for their out of control spending.

I hope your trim and fit, don't eat meat, candy or drink anything with sugar in it because your next on the tax list.

And how lovely is it that we are going to be taxed on the air we exhale.

Fine, badgerboy
I'll also tell them how the governor of Louisiana at that time, Blanco, delayed asking for Federal assistance (which she must do before the Feds can move in under our federal system), thus delaying the federal response. I'll also tell them how the mayor of New Orleans, "Chocolate City" Nagin, refused to use the 600 school buses that were sitting idle to evacuate people because they weren't air conditioned so "his" people coule be evacuated in comfort. Do you REALLY want to go down that road?

censorship
The irony to all of this is that it is not the fact that a curse or insult is uttered, it is the fact that the words used are those of the common man. It is ok to say something is excreble. It is ok to say breast. It is ok to say vagina, anus, pen**, intercourse, and urinate. Forbidding certain words does not protect anyone. Pre-schoolers know and use the seven forbidden word when they can get away with it. The FCC rules are pure snobbery. This very comment was rejected for containing the fully spelled word Pen**.

Obscenity
is the least of our problems when we are threatened by an internal Communist takeover. Most of us use these words in everyday life, so why should we be so offended.

Profanity
This is not a ban on free speech. It is an attempt to use proper language. What is so wonderful about repetitious use of the F-word? Actually, it is stupid! My Dad could curse, but he never used the F-word. His verbal streak of blue was rather poetic. However, he did this in a fit of temper, not in conversation; and not AT people, but in frustration. And, he frequently apologized for his vocal limitations and expressed his wish that he had a larger vocabulary. Now we have a multitude of TV reporters who do not use correct English. And a population who cannot express themselves by the use of lovely phrases or correct English. My mother has letters from her great aunts, who were school teachers in Great Britain during the German Bombings of World War II. The wording is lovely, not at all pretentious, just pretty and very expressive. Why is that not today's objective? The use of crude language is hardly an accomplishment.

Re: Joel-De Oppresso Liber
Awesome man. Simply awesome.

I got a kick out of the guy trying to say pen** here even as he ranted that no one found it offensive. LOL

I'm going to run a test post... do they really object to pen** but not vagina?

Sure do...

Dick? C*ck? That'll be ironic if that goes through...

Hmm. Interesting.

Anyhow, enough Fun-With-Filters nonsense. Is it really asking that much to keep vulgarity off daytime television? Seriously? There just seems to be this sense that at no point in their lives do entertainers ever grow up and realize the universe does not revolve around them. And it goes all the way back in history. Entertainers are disproportionately scum. It must have something to do with the necessary ego -- the constant need for attention. "Waaaaaa! I can't cus like a sailor on a talk shooooooow! Waaaaaaaa! My rights! My First Ammendment Rights! Waaaaaaaaa!"

Pathetic.

Re: James
The common man? Plenty of corporate CEO's cus unnecessarily, and plenty of common men have the good sense not to.

Walt Whitman Wannabe. ;)

The mainstream media comes across

daily as ever more simple syncophants of obama and the leftist agenda.

They cannot realistically call themselves journalist when none of them are interested in why one of the most powerful men in the world is spending hundreds of thousands of dollars to keep his past a secret.

CBS has argued that it is losing
viewers to cable (a la The Sopranos) because CBS productions cannot use the f-word (can't use it here either) and, ergo, the audience is going where the f-word goes.

The truth is that viewers are abandoning the networks, their news in particular, for the very reason that this col. was written.

They only present the *news* that THEY like and benefits them and has nothing to do with the people's right to know or the public good, which they blather about endlessly if and when they end up in court over matters like obscenities.

Badger 1:44
** Crawford, Texas, Aug. 29, 2005

(CBS/AP) President Bush on Sunday [August 28th] urged people living in the path of Hurricane Katrina to take the storm extremely seriously and to move to safer ground. "We cannot stress enough the danger this hurricane poses to Gulf Coast communities," said the president.

"We will do everything in our power to help the people and the communities affected by this storm," President Bush said as Katrina bore down on a stretch of coastline that includes New Orleans, a city sitting below sea level with 485,000 inhabitants. "I urge all citizens to put their own safety and the safety of their families first by moving to safe ground."**

Note this is an AP story. The NY Times on Aug. 30th reported the hurricane had missed NO. "Tuesday, August 30, 2005

Katrina Misses New Orleans,
Heavily Damages Mississippi

By Joseph B. Treaster and Kate Zernike

NEW ORLEANS

Hurricane Katrina pounded the Gulf Coast with devastating force at daybreak Monday, sparing New Orleans the catastrophic hit that had been feared but inundating parts of the city and heaping damage on neighboring Mississippi where it tossed boats, ripped away scores of roof tops and left many of the major coastal roadways impassable."

As Don said, it is not the Federal Government's place to come in before, even though help was offered to LA Governor and refused.

Now, go to Mississippi where conservatives were on the ground immediately with food, water, and supplies and man power. Contrast that to Nagin and NO. Pathetic argument, Badger. Try again.


How About the Commercials?
When the issue of inappropriate talk on television comes up I seldom see, unless I introduce it, objection to Corporate America's ads on TV. I for one am glad I don't have a five year-old girl in my house asking me to explain erectile dysfunction to her. Granted, the ads don't use the four-letter words, but do we really need to have, on TV in prime time, during commercial breaks in the evening news or a sports event, the advice that a person should seek medical attention for an er**tion (TH won't let me use word! TV OK, TH bad!) lasting more than four hours? And how about those gaga couples waltzing off into the bedroom, chatting happily about what they're about to do and how often they may be ready to do keep doing it? If you're going to object to cursing and nudity in a movie, why not object to these tasteless commercials (don't tell me---I can guess---$$$$$$$$$$$).

Intelligent Speach
There was a time when the use of foul language was considered "lazy" speech. Today, if this is considered to be still true, it appears that the vast majority of Americans are "lazy." Listen to any conversation and a minute into any conversation and you'll hear "f*****g" this or "g**d****" that. Under stress, in extreme anger, pain, or frustration this MIGHT be be acceptable explicative on RARE occasions. For some, such expressions reflected their anger - and for some is still the case. Unfortunately, these no longer are the case. The younger among us (those under 30), from time in memoriam, have always wanted to be received and respected for themselves, their thoughts, beliefs, and views. Like all other abusers, they fail to comprehend - assaulting through explicative laced speech lowers THEM to less-then-human status in the eyes of the hearer who sees no real reason for extreme anger, any observable pain, or rational frustration. Does that mean that they don't exist? No, nor does explicative laced speech any longer focus attention to any such existence. So - Note to those under 30 (and to some who still think they are): If you sincerely wish to be received and respected for yourselves, your thoughts, beliefs, and views try it without explicative laced speech. You'll be shocked to see how well your received, respected,your thoughts are considered, your beliefs are possibly shared (or at least recognized), and views are possibly shared (or at least recognized) by whomever you might talk to.

To Tony and Others
1) Last night the news showed President Obama saying, and then the camera showed the document where it was written, just to make things official, that he URGED Americans to PRAY on the National Day of Prayer. In what way does that consitute "outlawing National Prayer Day", as you say? You have posted a statement that is untrue, presumably hoping score a political point.

2) Another posts here claims that liberals don't like children.

3) Yet another repeats the rumor that Obama will withhold medical care from the elderly as part of his proposed health insurance plan. How would you know that? He hasn't published his plan. And a proposal like that would hardly help get it passed.

4) Meanwhile, ten minutes ago I got a SPAM email warning that Congress is trying to pass a ban on private gun sales. When I looked up the actual legislation, it is a proposal to require background checks when guns are sold at gun shows. That is clearly not a ban, but a background requirement.

When you use the Internet to spread groundless rumors, hysteria, distortions, falsehoods, misrepresentations, and LIES that you think will help the Republican cause, why are you surprised when Americans say, more and more, that your party is a party of extremists?

free speech
Since the fcc is a government group,how can they censor anything? The government according to the 1st amendment cannot censor .However a company that uses public air ways has a responsiblity to its viewers or listeners.Perhaps they should post a warning that foul language maybe used

Obsessive man
Another moronic piece from Brent Bozell. What he labels "obscenity" obviously covers a lot of ground -- way to much for the liking of most of us. Hopefully, this obsessive maniac can find better things to do than badger the FCC to go after "dirty" speech.

lilly
From your 2:22 post: "When you use the Internet to spread groundless rumors, hysteria, distortions, falsehoods, misrepresentations, and LIES that you think will help the Republican cause"

Check the past eight years and the things written about Bush and Cheney. How about the stuff written on the KOS and in emails about Palin?

Or for that matter, how about the loony tune posts you frequently put up here? I guess it's only a misrepresentation, distortion, or LIE when it's from a Conservative.




Badgerboy
"Go tell the children of New Orleans how much conservatives care about them."

I did. I went and rebuilt houses after Katrina with thousands of conservative church people who donate more chartiy that do liberals and the government. In one small town in Mississippi, we repaired 1000 homes. What did you do? Stare at the beavers?

Now, about those abortions...

Offended
Getting easily offended is less then useless. It is a waste of time that only serves to inflate ones righteous indignation ( seemingly Bozells' only emotion).
Many of the posts so far have made the point that excessive cursing are a crutch for people that are too ignorant to express themselves. In my mind that is spot on. I say let em' rip, if people want to sound stupid they are welcome to it.
What I don't take to kindly to is someone in the government deciding that what portion of real life is to gritty for us to handle.
Who says what is or is not obscene, if there was a vote I must have missed it. Oh, right I forgot, we don't get to think for ourselves. The ninnies at the FCC do that for us!

O.K. You will have to indulge me in sounding ignorant myself.

BRENT, WHY DON'T YOU GO OUTSIDE AND PLAY HIDE AND GO F@#K YOURSELF!!! STOP TELLING US WHAT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO HEAR, YOU SENSITIVE LITTLE NANCY.

Honestly, where does he get off?

One more thing,
Can we also stop pretending this is about the children?
The people that use kids to further some political aim are usually the ones who care the least about them. That goes for the right as well as the left.

Besides, the only child that had the squeeky clean childhood that Bozell would like for them was the Beaver for goodness sake! The young ones never needed TV to learn curse words.

Amazing
It's amazing they didn't report their own loss. That's just way to indicative of what filthy liars they are - totally and completely untrustworthy. Not that I should care so much, I can't stand watching them when they don't swear, apparently they are dying to let it all out, on TV, millions viewing, they can hardly supress themselves as we saw at the recent tea tax party demonstrations.
Secondly, I'm quite amazed they lost, the only explanation being the loss solidifies government power.
I expect that in 30-50 years, if that, this next generation will be so depraved, so enslaved by filthy minds 24/7/365 that there will be dozens of new words that replace the current set of swear words, and will become the new dirt they can spew openly with abandon.
I was at a site of a supposed intel operative combatting a claim a couple law enforcement officers executed an innocent man and lied to cover it up. Linked was "check out this amazing show" - so I clicked it. Game show with one guy in his undies hanging from a big statue, the other contestant across the stage face pinned to a post - they answered questions or something, and the statue rolled right across the stage, until the one guys undied crotch was in the other guys face - there was a full audience and game show master.
What I don't understand is where they get the live audiences, I don't understand why people don't just walk out. I do believe I am far outnumbered here in the USA, and I also understand I'm going to be a speck of a minority in the future.
So, since they can fine, they barely kept the rule, it allows government power, so we lucked out, for now.

Dear Mr. Bozell
I guess you made some sort of an attempt to explain all this supreme court decision and all the people that wanted to say some thing about it......but at this point you have added more confusion to the topic. Want we need is a giant score card system to sort all this out. I remember some supremeee some time ago saying he would know porno when he saw it? But never defined "it"

Change
Out of the mouth comes that which is in the heart. Dirty hearts produce filthy mouths.
Only a change in the heart of mankind toward God will change what it speaks.
But just out of common sense, I can hear all the cursing I want out in the public(and that is offensive to me) why do I need to hear it on TV or in the movies? Where are the enviromentalist that want clean air?

BIDEN AND THE "F" WORD

Did the mainstream media report that Biden used the "F" Word recently when telling a reporter to leave him alone? Probably not. I don't watch them anymore. I stopped watching a few years ago when an expletive was used on a situation comedy show at prime time.

A society is judged by it's values. What is happening to American's values?

ah! Poor pathetic citizens...
With the Messiah in charge and my taxes going to those who can't or wont pay their bills and this week "The One" speaking on credit card woes and how we should foot the bill for those who can't pay those bills it figures the far left would demand the right to spout the brilliant and intelligent epithets listed here. This society (a possible majority) have decided that no one is reponsible for anything UNLESS they have a history of responsibility- then in that case its "We demand your money and your acceptance and approval of all our needs to be free of restraint". The inversion of logic and the promotion of this mindset may seem innocuous and the consequences seem far off. Just wait. The government prints up $ and taxes future generations- in the long run - double digit inflation: the people are allowed to abort late term- long term "You get old YOU are toast"; the government has national health care: long term rationing is done and you have no recourse for that needed operation as you age; You allow kids to do and say whatever they want with no restraint and ergo you have a heartless, cynical, self absorbed culture (we pretty much are headed there now) that is dependent, angry and unwilling and unable to defend the country who gave them this license. Bottom line: You play like this- you pay. Actions have consequences and even you far leftists aren't immune. Just wait.

Nonjudgement is the new morality
It's unfortunate that society is starting to believe that a society without judgment is moral society because end result is obvious. We can't judge people on welfare, we can't judge on infidelity, we can't judge corruption, we can't judge period because judgment itself equals intolerance.

But a society without judgment and without standards is the most immoral because it denies humanity. Humans judge and learn from their judgments. It's ingrained into the development of a rational human. Without it rational thought dies. Learning near impossible.

Clivesdad
That was possibly the most succinct and accurate description of what is happening in our country that I have read in a long time. Excellent post!

1st and 10th amendment apply
Ok we know what the first amendment says. So please not that two methods of communication are made distinct. Press and speech. The founders never contemplated a means of communication that would cross state borders, so to assume powers over something never delegated to it is unconstitutional. Note, not unnecessary, but until granted under application of the 10th amendment any powers, the FCC is illegal.
States still hold the power to determine according to their people whether or not they would see allowing vulgarity as necessary to the freedom of their citizens. States also still hold the right to determine whether to allow transmission through any form of media, that they find unacceptable. This is not commerce, unless people are paying for it. We merely have another situation where the federal government has bypassed the amendment process and has presumptously engaged in the exercise of a power that is not theirs.

Obscenity Blackout
Alas, the use of obscentiy to express oneself is nothing more than a throwback to the ages of ignorance. To many people today don't know the progress of words and language any more than did the "groundlings" of Shakespeare's day. His plays contain many obscene words popular in the uneducated. That's what they came to hear!! Yet, we are considered so "evolved" when our language is reduced to "dirty jokes for little folks". The Supreme court doen't look very supreme with its simplistic reasoning, completely lacking in any acknowledgement of growth in civilization and something above the the "scratch the itch" mentality.

Uh, Brent?
I suspect this will come as a shock to you, but kids don't need to have "F-bombs" and "S-bombs" dropped on them by television in order to be aware of those words. They already know and use them -- just generally not around adults. Ever see "The Bad News Bears"?

And how can sex -- the very process by which humanity is propagated -- be obscene? I hate to break it to you, but children have genitals, too.


-CB-


Chuck
"This made it to the Supreme Court? We're worse off than I thought."

What's even worst, I'm sure you'll agree, is the twisted, dissembling views of the liberal fascist dissenters, especially the ones who find it so easy to see constitutionality in vulgarisms and smut but not in free political speech, or talk radio - which is, BTW, what the 1st amendment was originally written to specifically protect.

badgerboy
"Liberals don't care about children? I don't know whether to be offended or just amused by your ignorance. Of course, conservatives care about kids...at least up until the time they are born. Go tell the children of New Orleans how much conservatives care about them."

At least they want to see that they get a chance to be born. Overall, a pretty stupid comment - must have taken some recent humanities college course.

The fact is that liberals shouldn't be allowed anywhere near kids. They insist on aborting them and if they make it into the world, they try in every way to keep the ignorant, uneducated, unloved, unachieving, dependent, exploited and ultimately wasted.

Sounds like you were made miserable - and ignorant - by liberals - the attitude betrays you. And we know misery seeks to make everyone else just as miserable.

DEPENDS WHO SAID IT
If you are conservative;you are a no good SOB.
If you are a lib;oh well,it was just a slip of the tongue.

There's lack of "Freedom of Speech"
everywhere. Even in here.Even when a comment doesn't use any swearing. No telling what gets your comment blocked on these blogs.

TV
There is an off button. We used it right after the presidential election and haven't missed any of the talking heads. News junkies have other outlets. Used to be that laws were made because people would not exercise self control now laws are made to exercise control over others.
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