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Friday, March 13, 2009
Brent Bozell :: Townhall.com Columnist
Obama Sinks the Markets
by Brent Bozell
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On March 3, President Obama said something remarkably stupid, wrong and politically tone-deaf. Our Obama-loving media either ignored it -- or actually quoted it without comment. He claimed, "The stock market is sort of like a tracking poll in politics. It bobs up and down day to day, and if you spend all your time worrying about that, then you're probably going to get the long-term strategy wrong."

The Dow has now fallen more than 50 percent from its peak. Last month, it saw its biggest one-month drop since 1933. Grandpa's retirement savings just half vanished over the last few months, and the president is telling him it's just a meaningless blip. This is not a poll -- this is all about the American people's economic future, or their present. The stock market is in its greatest free fall since the Great Depression, and the president shrugs his shoulders.

How is it that no one on ABC, CBS or NBC found it bizarre to compare the Dow Jones index to a mere tracking poll? The answer is that they do, of course -- if it were uttered by a Republican. Stop and just think about how they'd have reacted if those words were spoken by Dubya.

The media loved to mock George W. Bush for sounding too optimistic about the economy. They scoured John McCain for claiming the fundamentals were strong. They forced Phil Gramm off McCain's campaign for saying we were a nation of whiners about the economy. But now, President Obama can tell America "don't worry your pretty head about the Dow Jones average," and no one in the media blinks.

ABC and CBS helpfully skipped the obnoxious "tracking poll" part of the Obama quote and picked him up seconds later: "What I'm looking at is not the day-to-day gyrations of the stock market, but the long-term ability for the United States and the entire world economy to regain its footing."

It gets worse. He also said "Profit and earning ratios are starting to get to the point where buying stocks is a potentially good deal." That's just wrong. Stock experts call it a "price to earnings ratio." If a stockbroker told you to get into the market and mangled the market terms, would you be confident in his advice?

As Jim Geraghty concluded on National Review Online: "If Bush had said the above, it would be ipso facto evidence of his idiocy." But in this case, the networks ran it without correction. Are TV news stars that stupid about basic stock terms? Or did they merely play dumb?

Chuck Todd of NBC and John Ydstie of National Public Radio passively replayed both potentially damaging quotes without any pause for a critique. Todd exclaimed, "It's a rare day when a president hands out stock tips. But that's exactly what President Obama seemed to do today." He ran the mangled P/E ratio comment, and then served up the stupid tracking-poll quote: "At the same time, the president tried to distance his plans for reviving the economy from the market's movements."

CBS ran the "profit and earnings ratios" quote on "CBS Evening News" and "The Early Show" in the morning. Katie Couric started her newscast with the pom-poms: "Tonight, President Obama says he's absolutely confident the economy will turn around and warns against worrying about the daily ups and downs of the stock market." Chip Reid's evening story at least ran a clip of GOP Rep. Ginny Brown-Waite telling Obama what a lot of people are thinking: "It seems every time that a statement is issued by you, the stock market plummets."

Think about it. Obama's inauguration speech? The market dropped. Obama's first State of the Union-style speech to Congress? The market dropped. Obama's Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner tried to explain their under-baked bank rescue plan in February? The market dropped almost 400 points. Even Obama's most fervent fans -- like Chris Matthews -- have put on the tube a chart showing the stock market's precipitous decline since Obama's victory. That is a sober political and economic reality for Team Obama, and no happy talk is going to fix it.

That's not to say the media cheerleaders won't try. The day after Obama's tracking-poll gaffe, ABC's Diane Sawyer began "Good Morning America" by proclaiming: "This morning, the confidence coach takes charge. The president himself challenges a weary nation to buy stocks as the first stimulus shovels plow the ground."

Are these news reports, or White House press releases?

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Yeesh!
Brent please come right out and say it. this man is not fit to hold the office of the President of the United States of America.....His appointees are a disaster,his spending program is armageddon for the nation. His foreign policy is little league and his social programs are right out of the soviet union......Time to Lock and load ! We the american-(I am working and middle class) people need to raise up and slap this pretender down!
Mren







Personally, I liked the part ...
where Obama said now was a good time to buy stocks because the "profit and earnings ratio" was attractive.

Of course the media made no comment about this ignorant comment. But if Bush had said it, he would have been roundly ridiculed and we would have heard about it for years!

The idiot obviously was told to say something about "price-to-earnings ratios"--and he (even more obviously) didn't have the slightest idea what the hell he was talking about and screwed it up.

These are the hands we have entrusted our country to.

God *save* America.


Its all strategery, folks
Don't you get it? The media is playing games here, and has so much invested in Obama they will not let these (accumulating) gaffes destroy their man.

Of course, it cannot last. Sometime someone will get the balls to speak up that Obama is failing, and will fail. Rush will be vindicated (though that, too, will be spun).

I actually wrote a blog piece stating that Obama has already failed... I think he has, and will continue to flounder for four long years.

Economists
A few weeks ago our president was carping about how these days everybody is an economist. It's a shame he doesn't know more economics.

Or maybe the man behind the curtain doesn't really care.

Or instead of just reading what he was supposed to on the teleprompter he decided to wing it.

It doesn't really matter. As long as he said it some people can continue to have orgasms and life will be good.

never waste a crisis
Obama knew the economy was going south, that's why he won. When he blames Bush, he sounds like the helpless over his head Jimmy Carter Jr that he is. He shows no depth of understanding about economics or military strategy.

He problably needs a teleprompter to read Sasha her bedtime story!

Reid and Pelosi are playing him like a fiddle, taking care of their political allies under the guise of improving the economy.

He's rallied the republican party and his support among independents is falling fast. It looks like he's over reaching with the liberal left.

THE SO CALLED MEDIA
YES THIER THAT STUPID....WE ARE SO SCREWED

The Media are Fools
So, after months of the market plummeting, we are supposed to believe that a, so far, brief rise in SOME market indicators . . . like CitiGroup . . . is supposed to represent the confirmation of the "correctness" of Obama's plan to BORROW and SPEND ourselves out of public debt . . . by going into even MORE debt? IF, for a MULTITUDE of reasons . . . foreign and domestic . . . the market manages to climb into LONG-TERM growth, naturally, Obama and the ILLIBERAL "liberals" and nanny-staters will claim credit. If however . . . even AFTER spending the economic future of our great-grandchildren on "earmarks" and pork projects for the constituencies of Ms. Pelosi, Ms. Boxer, Harry "milquetoast" Reid, and the Hamas-supporting imbeciles of Gaza . . . the economy of this Republic continues to fall into the toilet of welfare-state idiocy, Obama and his sycophants will, inevitably, blame everything on the RINO "conservatives" of the previous administration. If we were living a hundred years in the future . . . and IF Democrats had been in power for the ENTIRE previous hundred years . . . and IF the bankrupt nanny-state economy STILL performed like a dead elephant . . . the Democrats, even after manipulating the Census and gerrymandering Congressional districts for a hundred years, would STILL be blaming the state of the economy on George Bush.
And no, I did NOT vote for Bush.

Its the Trend
The way the markets are wildly swinging reminds me of people losing weight -- they cannot tell if they are losing weight or not, by weighing themselves every day, and the doctor tells them so. The important thing to watch is the overall trend. And as everybody who has ever had any money knows, the general trend is DOWN. Obama is clearly floundering well out of his depth and even his puppeteers are discovering that giving him lines to read is no use when he does not know what he is reading. He is clearly getting the idea that people are laughing at him, important people are mocking him, and it will not be long until he has a public meltdown and has to be whisked off the stage.

Meanwhile I am preparing to head off to Florida to spend five days with beautiful cars. I have seen many, many recessions and long ago learned to ride the surfbord over the pounding waves. Life has treated me well and rewards those who watch which way to jump. And it will humble the Generation Yners just the way it has humbled the rest of us along the way. The fun part will be watching them learn the lesson we learned ages ago.

See you at Galts Gulch. You know the way.

Hand me the tummy pills.
Right now the turn in my stomach everytime I see this hand-in-hand love-fest with the media blossom into another visage of Marxism and Socialism is the gyration that bothers me most. Just the term, used at-nausea, 'jolt the economy' was enough for me to believe this guy is not only clueless, the press is too. They are self-deceived; JOLT THE ECONOMY??? What kind of nonsensical phrase is that, anyway? It's being jolted alright--into a panic!

Magical thinking has worked for Obama
He remains an indulged child whose every idea and effort has been praised simply because of his skin color. Obama could have pooped on a paper plate and handed it in as his college admissions essay and he would have been called a "visionary". Now in the whitehouse, we have a half-baked community organizer who is comprised primarily of ego, surrounded by a cabinet cheats and thieves, and is bent on forcing Americans into socialism.

See downtown Newark, NJ over the past 25 years for the results we can expect.

Obamamamma, Economist
BHO said: "A smidgen of good news and suddenly everything is doing great. A little bit of bad news and ooohh , we're down on the dumps," "And I am obviously an object of this constantly varying assessment. I am the object in chief of this varying assessment." What's with the "I" thing? Is he the one that is personally running America, making stupid predictions, performing assessments that are equally stupid? Said by a high-schooler or your president? (Not mine - I didn't vote for him and I hope he fails.) Anyone else feel that at times during this politically made crises, things are doing great? What a dolt!

H.D.
I agree: the Republicans are NOT conservatives. I've abandoned the party and placed my own personal embargo on any Republican candidate. I will vote Libertarian when I can, and not at all if there is no third candidate.

The ignorant, arrogant liar
He is clueless. The arrogant puppet is nervous because the leg-humping by the sycophants in the MSM and the ignorant sheep that voted for him is starting to subside. The prom king is nervous. Think of the SNL skit where Will Ferrell playing George Bush was cowering under his desk in the Oval Office whimpering "this stuff is hard" - that's Obama. His puppet masters, those committed to destroying this country, are slipping. This ars-hat has never led anything, never dealt with the consequences of his decisions and never been held accountable. Enough already.

Don't....
....blame Yo!bama for the "profit-to-earnings" statement......perhaps he was just reading what some buffoon typed into his teleprompter.

It's just a technical bounce............
until further notice. Why would anyone take financial advice from an attorney with a liberal arts degree?

I put my 401K stocks
In a safe place after Obama was elected because of all the Socialist things he said he would force on Americans and knew the stock market would "fall off a cliff"...He is anti-Capitalism,Marxist fraud that has lied to the public acting like he would be a centrist..So what do you think his "Cap and Trade",No writing off of interest on homes,taxing 401K's and no writing off charity will do to our systems..all these Obama sheeple who are getting 13 dollar more a week in their paychecks will now be paying more for their cigs,their gas,electricity and anything else that is sold that gets shipped via an 18 wheeler..food,clothing etc...see how those poor "middle Class" like it when they can't afford to feed their children..He is in my opinion the Ultimate Terrorist Cell..set up by George Soros to destroy America...you say he isn't a muslim but he sure is "The Economic Terrorist" "Anti-Capitalist Saul Alinsky from Hell"

Politicaly backed media
Open your eyes, most intelligent Americans and people abroad know that Obama has pumped so much money into the stations that they were baught to support him. When McCain wanted to run a 30 minute ad they would not give him the spot, and even if they had, the cost would of been far out of his reach. The Media is AFRAID to say anything negative because they are caught up in the Messiah loving public. I wonder which reporter will be the one to break the ice.

H.D.
You really need to take a nap. First of all I agree with you on Ron Paul. I as a conservative republican voted for him in the primaries. I also agree we are heading dangerously close to socialism. Where we part ways is calling anybody in America and imperialist. Explain to me how you came to that conclusion. Which country currently has the American flag flying over it that once had another flag? Which country have we taken over?

Comparing America to hitler's germany is just ignorant and takes away any credibility you might have. When has America systematically created a way to exterminate a specific population? As for abortion you cant honestly claim thats a republican issue, can you? That is CLEARLY a lib dem issue.

I agree the republicans are no bargin but if the difference is between a dem or a republican in office, I will ALWAYS go with the republican. It is our duty as voters to give direction to the republicans by whom we vote for. Dont abandon the process.

Not the first time.....
"On March 3, President Obama said something remarkably stupid, wrong and politically tone-deaf. Our Obama-loving media either ignored it"

....and it's certainly NOT the last. The media is so far up Obama's bum they couldn't find their way out if they tried...which they won't, until he's done so much damage to the country, they can no longer ignore it. Face it folks, its up to us to change what we can...because we can not count on the government to do ANYTHING right or the mainstream media to be truthful about. WE SURROUND THEM! Its time they were reminded of that fact.

So, you posters seem to be saying
that a man elected to be President of the United States should have some qualifications. What a concept!

Who was behind the $550 billion run
on the market in Sept? The speed and scope scared the crap out of EVERYBODY who was paying attention. Did Obama ignore it because he had prior knowledge?

When we discover who has pushed the Chocolate Jesus on us, and who steers and manipulates him, chances are we'll know who tried to bankrupt the USA.

To me this deliberate attempt to crush the dollar smells like Soros, who made his fortune by tanking currencies and needs to be deported or extradited.

But I don't look for Obama to get to the bottom of this, because it's not in his interest to do so.

Amazing! What he lacks in competence he makes up for with narcissistic arrogance - a willful, focused, Alinsky soaked determination to bring down the middle class. That would be you and I, folks.

How about a Positive Path
As a conservative I am so tired of those who proclaim to be Republican but more importantly talk shows to continually say if he/she were a Republican. Instead of worrying about trivia lets put together some effort in regaining what we've lost in our representation. With all the serious problems in this country put together some positive meaning to those of us who look for action as opposed to lip service.

Incompetence
Of course a nation of incompetent voters elected an incompetent President and a Congress dominated by incompetents. Almost all voters were "educated" and indoctrinated in government monopoly schools or they got almost the same messages in private schools from "teachers" who were.

As Charles Darwin never said, "Government schools are not the fittest and need the unconstitutional (illegal) protection of a monopoly arrangement in order to survive.

Mark
Short and to the point. I like it. Count me in.

Bill
I don't know what the last three days of the rise in the stock market has to do with Mr. Bozell,s main point, but if you feel the market is coming back because of what it has done in 3 days, why don't you invest in some stocks right now?

Mr. Bozell runs the Media Research Center which focuses on the MSM's bias reporting. Maybe you should read his column again to get the point.

Luckydog
Bill obviously has no money to invest since he has no job since he has timeto post news items on his blog. Dont bother.

Four More Years Of This Sh*t!
Jesus Christ, Lord, help us all.

Pay No Attention to the Man...
...Behind the TelePrompter

Don't forget, Barry also went "over the top" when he was pushing his bogus stimulus bill, claiming if Congress stopped to read it, the economy might NEVER recover! Wow! Apocalyptic & dead wrong all in 1 breath!

Now I'm reading today he's all "Nevvvvvver miiiiind, it's not really as bad as we thought it was?" Heh, yeah right. Were you lying then, or are you lying now?

Bill Clinton didn't blow his credibility this fast & far, & that's saying something.

The only way to ensure the economy never recovers is for government to beat it down, so could that stimulus-pushing speech have been a threat? The economy would have recovered in a couple of years if the government had quit giving it perverse incentives & just did its law-enforcement job, & the "stimulus" would take 2-10 yrs to work?!? Watta scam!

Investors need stability and the basic support of order & justice government is supposed to provide, instead of perverse motivations & constant jerking around by bureacrats, judges, & "independent" government bankers. The cause of the continued poor economy is the one you see standing behind the TelePrompter screen.

Obama and the stock market
That statement was as foolish and dangerous as the one he made yesterday which was, "I'm not interested in militarizing the border." I'd love to ask him how many American lives are worth putting the military on the border? We have troops around the world and have had for decades. Don't we deserve as much attention? Our own country is under attack from that violent and corrupt country to our south, and we can't even defend ourselves. Mexico would forbid it and Washington would cave to their wishes. That third world nation has been calling the shots here for a long time now.

Bill
The main topic of this column IS about the media, not the market going up. We are still waitning for your comments about the main topic of this column.

Bill in IL
Please. You think the media is gonna tell you the true facts about the media?! And you said the market is up for the fourth day in a row? Yea, so is unemployment. Any more paper thin arguments you want to make?

Liz
Amen Liz. We need to protect our own borders first!!

so, let me get this straight
Obama says that we should stop focusing on the short-term ups and downs of the market and more on the long-term strength of the economy, and he's being dangerous? Seems to me that the focus on the short term got us in this mess in the first place. I know you all know that, if only because the comments in here are now deriding the short-term gains in the market. Who knows if his stimulus will work. All I know is that all you all have offered is to either do nothing or offer yet more tax cuts to folks who got us into this mess. And, as for Bozell, I'd have more faith in commentary (even that with which I disagree) if it came from someone who wasn't yet another trust-fund conservative.

Mike
You seem opposed to tax cuts. It amazes me how people can be opposed to keeping more of their own money. Why does it matter to you that ANYONE would want to keep more of their own money? How has giving more of your money to the government helped you on a daily basis in a practical way? We are not in this economic crisis because we give too little money to the government. We are in this position because the government misuses the money we currently send them. WHY in heavens name would I want to send them more?

Obama's Fault
Let's not let liberal spin make us think that this is anything other than Obama's fault. Sure, the market began its nose dive before Obama took office. Sure every single business that is struggling began having problems long before Obama took office. Sure the decline in GDP during the 4th qtr (i.e. before Obama took power) was astronomical.

But it's still all Obama's fault.

What exactly do you mean, "On March 3,

President Obama said something remarkably stupid, wrong and politically tone-deaf."

Why is March 3rd different from any other day since Jan. 20th???

And, now that I think of it, why is March 3rd different from any other day since he started campaigning 100yrs. ago... ooops, sorry, two years ago (but you gotta admit, it seems like 100yrs. ago, doesn't it?)


In case anybody's wondering
The pmm (Propaganda Media Machine aka msm) is and will forever be in the tank of dims and specifically for Oblaba. If there was ever a reason to vote against a Democrat that is it. If you have a shred of sense you realize they have 0. That is zero credibility. From daily criticisms of George Bush with no let up to trying to give the enemy secrets and war strategies. If you don't send the message that you are 100% against this type of reporting by turning out Democrats they will forever think you are the FOOL THEY ALWAYS THOUGHT YOU WERE.

"The Emperor Has No Clothes"
This title from a children's story says it all about the current political scene.

Joey: Excellent point! "... the market

is up for the fourth day in a row? Yea, so is unemployment."

If you want a good discussion of "How Modern Liberals Think" this is excellent.

"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c

It's 48min. long, but WELL WORTH the time.

Also, in case you haven't seen Ari Fleisher Defends W On 'Hardball'

http://townhall.com/blog/g/87ed08e6-5ad2-463e-bf15-59e33634 bb2e

This one is 16mins. long, but again, WELL WORTH the time.


Joey: Excellent point! "... the market

is up for the fourth day in a row? Yea, so is unemployment."

If you want a good discussion of "How Modern Liberals Think" this is excellent.

"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c

It's 48min. long, but WELL WORTH the time.

Also, in case you haven't seen Ari Fleisher Defends W On 'Hardball'

http://townhall.com/blog/g/87ed08e6-5ad2-463e-bf15-59e33634 bb2e

This one is 16mins. long, but again, WELL WORTH the time.


Stop Obsessing on the Day to Day Dow
Conservatives are obsessed with trying to pin the stock market's decline on Obama because they are at an ideological dead end when it comes to charting a course out of the current crisis that is largely of their own making. As an attack point it is second only to the maniacl rant about "Socilaism."

As of the markets' close on March 6, the Dow was off approximately 50% from its high of May, 2008. Of that overall decline, 46% of the drawdown took place during the Bush Administration. This past week, the Dow has regained 10% as of noon on March 13. Ms. Erin Burnett of CNBC, appearing on Meet the Press last Sunday, pointed out that the fluctuations of the Dow mask the fact that the S&P 500 is doing better as an index vis a vis the Dow so the alarm over stock performance is a bit exaggerated. Moreover, demand has collapsed world wide as has consumer spending and the seeds of these twin developments predate the Obama Administration by a whole year.

Love ya, Anne
Thanks for the info.

Bill you or anyone else who jumps in
the Stock Market right now is a fool and will lose more money.Don't you think it's uncanny and ironic that a Bank that received 50 billion would announce a Profit..duh yea because we gave it to you..this is one of those freaky upticks that will not last.Until one sees employment numbers begin to rise and the normal blue chip stocks resume you shouldn't jump in!For their are people out there still pulling their money out with any upticks to get some bit of their money back!Anne is right..as long as you see unemployment rise there will always be downturns

Dave,
you know what the librals always said about George W. Bush. It "happened on his watch". They don't sing the same tune for Obama.

Everything is Okay now
Isn't it amazing that now that Bambi has put through these gigantic pork programs that the economy all of a sudden isn't so bad. Just two weeks ago we heard that if we did not let them spend this money we would all go to hell in a hand basket. Now things aren't so bad, go out and spend, buy stocks, trust me. What fools we have been. This guy will promote fear every time he wants to push another social program. He could not push the fear enough until he got what he wanted. Now he wants to turn off that switch and turn on the one that tells us things are going to be just fine now that he is in charge. How many lies are we willing to accept from this guy.

INCOMPETENCE! INCOMPETENCE INCOMPETENCE

Not Ready to Lead, Above his Pay Grade. No experience, 57 States, Stand with my Muslim Brothers, Line by Line. All of these descriptions and comments come to mind for this Presdident. Nothing more needs to be said.


Bushs' Fault
four days of increase in the stock market. Liberals have been blaming Bush for everything...thought i would beat them to the punch.

I knew it! I knew it!
Cons really do live in a separate, fuzz-world of their own imagination.

The market has been steadily rising for three days, you poor fools. Over on conservatron, where you apparently all live, you might switch stations for a while and tune into the planet where the rest of us reside.

Obama lied and the economy died!!!
Now off to swill some of the Pink Liquid..AAARGH!!!

-Ray
NRA Life Member
Soli Deo Gloria!!!

Reality
This is shaping up to be the most incompetent administration (and congress) since Warren G. Harding. Not good for America!!

Poor Fred
What % has the market dropped since his himself took over and how much of that drop has been erased over the past 3 days? Why dont you come back from where the rest of you preside when you have those answers.

oldsocialworker
Do you think that the Annointed One recycled his college admissions essay and presented it to us as a "stimulus package"?

Bwhahahaha
So Obama's a stand-up comic now!

Who knew he was so versatile?!

Mike
You probably didn't notice but Obama "took office" several years ago and, at least theoretically, voted on the policies that were in place when our economy QUIT growing and BEGAN declining. I don't think you can vote "PRESENT" in the U.S. Senate, can you? But if he did, then isn't he part of the problem that the Dem-led Congress has brought us?

But I agree with you that we should not give tax cuts to those who caused this problem. NO tax cuts for Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, Maxine Waters...oh heck, let's just say it: NO tax cuts for Congress.

this is kind of a mute column
since the markets have gone up 10 percent in the last 3 days.

i guess obama gets credit for that right?

Christian Lib
No it is bushes fault

oops
typo Bush's

christianlib
Not only that but the market, as of right now, is up another almost $18. Yes yes yes, that--and 20 or 30 more days like it--will make up for the $400 the market lost the day Obama's Secretary of Treasury, Tax-Cheat Geithner, spoke.

We do seem to be going 5 steps down, 1/2 step up, don't we. At this rate, it will take a long time for the market to go to zero.



christianlib in CA
You meant "moot", not mute.

Big whoop. Three days. It's a minor correction.

FYI--it's gone down 20% since his election and almost 900 points since his inauguration.



Where's The Queen's Gold?
Recently, a scholar wrote an editoral and alleged that trillions of dollars were stolen under Obama's watch - not Bush's watch - but didn't want to embarrass Obama! Good grief, a country is going down the tubes and millions of people are suffering and the media doesn't want to embarrass a man who has several alias names and doesn't care what's happening in the stock market and is increasing taxes and doesn't want to drill for oil and is raising electricity while Americans are becoming poorer and poorer since his inauguration including the wealthy Blacks! Isn't there a reasonable cause to impeach someone in office when they are just plain negligent and abusing their power?

TO ALL REPUBLICAN NAYSAYERS
President Obama was EXACTLY right when he said the daily tracking poll is the same as the daily tracking poll during and election campaign. It's not worth your time watching it so Bozell is totally off base with his pedestrian remarks about Obama. Obama could have given an even better example by saying the daily tracking polls are like the odds at a racetrack. Wait a couple of minutes and the odss will change.
So Obama was right and as usual Brent Bozell was wrong.
Incidentally, all hell is breaking loose in Afghanistan and if you don't believe me go to my blog: CORKSPHERE at http://corksphere.blogspot.com

THE MAIN STREAM MEDIA
MAGNIFICENT JOB GUYS! HERE IS A PRESIDENT ACTUALLY SPEWING REAL IGNORANCE..NOT MISPRONOUNCING A WORD..AND HE ONCE AGAIN GETS A PASS....WONDERFUL..HOW ABOUT THE TERRORISTS HE HAS LET GO WHO ARE BACK KILLING AMERICANS??? ANYBODY GOING TO NOTICE THAT? OR THE INCREDIBLY BACK CHOICES HE HAS MADE FOR CABINETS APPOINTMENTS? IS THIS PRESIDENT EVER GOING TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE? YOU KNOW HE WAS PART OF CONGRESS FOR TWO YEARS...WHAT DID THIS GUY DO THEN???? OH I FORGOT, THAT DOES NOT MATTER EITHER.

WHEN IS THE MAIN STREAM MEDIA GOING TO QUIT THEIR LIBTARD NONSENSE AND ACTUALLY EXECUTE THEIR REAL MISSION?????

ALLEN IN OKLA.
I agree with you. I want the media to look into the latest revelations by award-winning author Seymour Hersh that Dick Cheney had set up assassination squads. Now there is a REAL story.

Wow, Bill
Who got hit? Are you just going to leave us hanging?

Bill
Seymour Hirsch also said JFK had a recurring venereal disease for years.

CHENEY'S ASSASSINATION SQUAD
You are going to be hearing and reading a lot more about the secret assassination squad former VP Dick Cheney set up that Seymour Hersh talks about in his new article that comes out next week. It is a violation of the Constitution for any member of the United States government to set up a private assassination squad. This could be what finally nails Cheney who LIED us into war with Iraq when Saddam Hussein had exactly nothing to do with 9/11. Even President Bush said Hussein had nothing to do with 9/ll. Will Bozell's right wing media cover this story as it unfolds? I know FOX NEWS won't. They are a propaganda branch for the Republican Party.

Seymour Hirsch
Is from Chicago and was a great buddy of Sal Alinsky the Marxist Community Organizer like his avid follower Barrack Hussein NObama...Enough said...you lie down with dogs you get flees

Liberal Utobia 101
Imagine there's no Constitution
It's easy if you try
No hell below us,
it's been here all the time
Above us only pie in the sky
Imagine all the people
Living for the man...

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
once we kill the jew
And all religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in need...

You may say I'm a liberal
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be no more

Imagine no possessions
cause the man took them too
No need for greed or hunger
the man will take care of you
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world...yeah right

You may say I'm a liberal
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
or die resisting until we're done...

How's that for change?

Good grief, kindergarten
Much (not all) of the dialog on TH is reminiscent of nothing so much as little children raspberrying at one another and bragging. The purpose of this seems to be to annoy and harass and tire, rather than to illuminate, try to make fair comparisons, or edify. Most of this comes from liberals, but a few conservatives have gotten down in this mud as well. What is this a town hall of -- Kids' Town? I guess it's fit that we have a nanny state if we must carry on like we need a nanny.

Please, can we elevate the level of discourse here.

Bill
We don't need your stinkin blog!

For Jeanne
Last I checked, Seymour Hersh has been considered since 1985 as a moron--of which there is plenty of evidence. For Indians specifically, the idea that PM (1977-1979) Morarji Desai (who was at least as incompetent as his contemporary Dhimmi Carter) was a CIA mole.

BARACK HUSSEIN ALLENDE
Barack Hussein Obama rode on the back of the antiwar movement into presidential history. No toppling of Saddam Hussein, no President B. Hussein Obama. The man with the middle name “Hussein” opposed the forceful ousting of Saddam by U.S. forces believing that he could have been stopped, tamed and contained-a completely wrongheaded view as the man's terrorist activities were uncontainable and dangerously growing. But I wonder, is it mere happenstance that Obama shares the same name as the ill starred dictator, the name "Hussein?" Is his own middle name a warning to Obama about the fate he could suffer if he goes too far in his transformational project to Europeanize, collectivize and restructure capitalist America?

When comparing both men I noticed that Obama shares one very troubling trait with Saddam: recklessness. Indeed, like Saddam no catastrophe is too big or disaster too great to bring Obama to his senses and stop him.

Click my name and read the rest of The Man With Hussein for his Middle Name, or Barack Hussein Allende




Obama wants people to buy stocks?
"This morning, the confidence coach takes charge. The president himself challenges a weary nation to buy stocks as the first stimulus shovels plow the ground."

What an interesting statement? Sure, Obama may want people to buy stocks, but every time he speaks, the stock market drops.

And if people do manage to make some money out of the stock market, he has promised to tax more of it, because people making capital gains are rich and it is good for everybody to "spread the wealth around".

Does Chairman Obama really wants people to buy stocks, or is he just saying it?

Asinine Nation squad?
Be careful if you go hunting with Dick Cheney. You might end up with a face full of bird shot.

Good grief. Now it's tin foil hat time about the former Vice President.

Whatever the Vice President did, I don't know about squads being unconstitutional per se. Privateers were quite common in the early years of the country. The government, having declared a war on an enemy, would often then contract private mercenaries, responsible to the government, to eliminate that enemy. The mercenaries were not allowed to attack any old thing, or they would be in deep trouble.

Should there be a price on the head of, say, some of the leading Mexican drug kingpins? If a wimpy Congress is willing to declare war on this, that would be fair game.

Obama yacks, market tanks
Is there a schedule of Obama public addresses available from the gummit? That might be very useful for contrarian investors. If we have some forewarning (it has to be something available to the public, to avoid the verboten insider trading) that Obama is going to say something stupid, then is going to remain quiet for a few days, then we could make some lemonade out of this lemon of a market.

This Moron-in-Chief
doesn't know what a P/E ratio is because he has never managed a business, let alone owned one!! The fool lib socialists elected exactly who they wanted: A community organizer with no experience. He supposedly has a law degree which helped his libtards elect him, but that isn't even known for sure since he (unlike any other president in recent times) has REFUSED to allow any access to his school transcripts.

Sometimes I really can't believe that this is happening in our great country. We have the most unqualified man as our president in the most turbulent times. This is getting just plain scary.

Bozell is right, by the way.
He is so, so right to point out that the leftist MSM press nitpicked relentlessly on the former President Bush. He shows how this would look if the media were even handed and did the same to President Obama. Yeah let's not even try to unscramble a garbled statement and then evaluate whether or not that reading is stating a truth that we should pay heed to. Let's just call the speaker stupid.

In an earlier time that would be called being misconscrewed.

Hmm, What did he mean?
"The stock market is sort of like a tracking poll in politics. It bobs up and down day to day, and if you spend all your time worrying about that, then you're probably going to get the long-term strategy wrong."

I am glad you corrected me on the meaning of the quote. I took it completely differently. I understood him to mean that the market can have daily shifts, up or down, that effect the day to day. If you plan your long term strategy on the day to day changes then the strategy is suspect. I myself have used other economic information, the beige book and the ISM index, to gauge the economy. Silly me.



Hmm, What did he mean?
"The stock market is sort of like a tracking poll in politics. It bobs up and down day to day, and if you spend all your time worrying about that, then you're probably going to get the long-term strategy wrong."

I am glad you corrected me on the meaning of the quote. I took it completely differently. I understood him to mean that the market can have daily shifts, up or down, that effect the day to day. If you plan your long term strategy on the day to day changes then the strategy is suspect. I myself have used other economic information, the beige book and the ISM index, to gauge the economy. Silly me.

Hmm, What did he mean?
"The stock market is sort of like a tracking poll in politics. It bobs up and down day to day, and if you spend all your time worrying about that, then you're probably going to get the long-term strategy wrong."

I am glad you corrected me on the meaning of the quote. I took it completely differently. I understood him to mean that the market can have daily shifts, up or down, that effect the day to day. If you plan your long term strategy on the day to day changes then the strategy is suspect. I myself have used other economic information, the beige book and the ISM index, to gauge the economy. Silly me.

conservativemom
This is not GETTING scary

This IS scary

The dumbing down of America.
I can see that you can't see that this was the Obama ajenda from the get go. Ruin American, the USA, bring them to their knees and then send the taliban in to get rid of them. Conspiracy? Not likely? He's sending billions out of our nation to the far points of the earth, including Hamas, the Saudis,Germany, and now he wants to talk to Putin in Russia who straightforwardly told Obama that it didn't work in the Soviet Union, and Obama replied, but we know how to do socialism and Comunism better that you. And he's planing on meeting with Iran. This is troubling. Could we wake up to reality and quit dreaming that Obama will save us? He never intended to. He intends to sink us.

Brent
You have said something "Remarkably Stupid". The markets are up for the forth day in a row. I guess President Obama was prescient in his comparisons. It would be interesting if you were a valid source for comment. But you have no background in markets or economics. You can't even time your topics. "Dumb As".. Never bet against a "Leo". We always "WIN"...

JEANNE
So I see you have reverted to what ever right winger does when they have nothing to refute what Seymour Hersh is writing about Dick Cheney's death squad, you go after the messenger. How clever. BTW. It is fleas not flees.

YOU TELL 'EM KILLER
This is not the first time Brent Bozell has made a complete jerk of himself. He is forever going on FAUX NEWS and saying some outlandish thing that turns out to be totally false. So what will Bozell say now that the market went up for four days in a row? Oh, silly me. He will say it was all the work of Republicans--the same Republicans who haven't come up with an alternative plan for Obama's plan to get the economy going. All the Republicans can say is "no, no. no." That's akin to some guy sitting in the stands at a football game and after the coach calls for a field goal and the kicker misses the kick, Mr. Know-it-all announced to everyone the coach should have thrown a pass. That is called Monday Morning Quarterbacking the you Republicans have got that down to a science.

FED: BUSH RECORD "NET WORTH DROP"
Which NOW will LIKELY PROLONG THE ECONOMIC SLUMP.

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U.S. net worth, a measure of households' assets minus their liabilities, such as debt, was $51.5 trillion in 2008, the lowest since 2003. The record annual drop in net worth, the first since 2002, accelerated as the year progressed. In the fourth quarter, household net worth dropped 9%, the biggest decline since quarterly records began in 1951, the Fed said.

Americans' net worth plunged a record 17.9% in 2008 as the value of their homes, stocks and other assets dropped swiftly, the Federal Reserve said Thursday in a report that did not bode well for consumer spending and the overall economy this year.

With net worth dropping so much, CONSUMERS ARE LIKELY TO FOCUS ON SAVINGS, NOT SPENDING, as they realize they can't rely on their homes and stock portfolios as ever-rising sources of income, says RDQ Economics senior economist Conrad DeQuadros.

Such saving, while good in the long run, WILL LIKELY PROLONG THE ECONOMIC SLUMP. Consumer spending drives more than two-thirds of U.S. economic activity.


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http://www.usatoday.com/money/economy/2009-03-12-net-worth_ N.htm

SURPRISED?
President Obama is showing the same decisive leadership he demonstrated in all of his past jobs........

Are you done thinking What Jobs!

I will not be surprised.
I will not get angry.
Too often, a Democracy gets what it paid for.
What saddens me though, is that somehow many intelligent Americans...with a straight face... told me that Mr. Obama was very qualified to be Commander in Chief but Mrs. Palin was not ready to hang out at the Naval Observatory as Vice President.
What went wrong?
God help us.

No, no,no
sounds like the dems for the last eight years.

The Problem
Both the major parties have their head in their third point of contact. This was proven by bush and obama.

Both have used the Constitution for toilet paper. (patriot act, bailouts (bush and obama), Spreading the wealth around)

The house and senate are just as bad.

Dems yelled under bush "that is too much deficit spending"

Dems bowed down to obama when he sent the "stimulus" bill and said ok yes we can. deficit doesn't matter. along with three rinos.

He Needs the Illusion of an Uptick
Barry can try playing FDR, & base the country on soup lines & make-work projex while bureaucrats & taxmen harass & bleed anyone w/ the temerity to, like, try to run a business, but I don't think people will fall for it as long as they did in the '30's. It will lose its charm after a while, folks might get wise & get fed up living like that.

Obama needs some indicators to start looking good & the economy to at least look viable, like a dissected frog's leg when you shock it, at least, so he can get Congress perked up & on board with the more esoteric stuff on his agenda like "cap & trade," government monopoly rationed healthcare, universal unionization, & gimmicky tax hikes that only affect his political foes. Those are more likely to be permanent & much harder to repeal.

"The Economy Is Fundamentally Sound"
Now that President Obama has scared the Congress into authorizing the expenditure of more than a trillion dollars. A feat accomplished by constantly talking the economy down and endlessly referring to the worse economic downturn since the Great Depression. Today, Obama put on his rose colored glasses and declared most aspects of the US economy “fundamentally sound”.

The last person I heard call the economy fundamentally sound was Senator John McCain, back in September. The mainstream media had nothing but derision for McCain’s fundamentally sound remark. The New York Times took special umbrage wondering if McCain had missed the downfall of Lehman Brothers, Merrill Lynch and AIG.

Things are different now than when John McCain said things were fundamentally sound:

• On September 15, 2008, The Dow Closed At 10,917.51; Yesterday, It Closed At 7,170.06. (Google Finance Website, accessed 3/13/09)

• In September 2008, The National Unemployment Rate Was 6.2 Percent; Today, It Is 8.1 Percent. (Bureau Of Labor Statistics Website, accessed 3/13/09

• On September 15, 2008, The National Debt Was $9,634,090,464,815.55; Yesterday It Was $10,983,549,928,728,.74. (U.S. Treasury Department’s Treasury Direct Website, accessed 3/13/09)

Ever since McCain’s fundamentally sound remark, week in and week out, we have been told how much worse the economy is than it was the week before. At least that was the story before Obama signed the latest pork-infested big government spending bill earlier this week.

Suddenly we are back to McCain’s fundamentally sound, so where is the derision and the umbrage now?

Click on link below to access individual sites.

http://www.redstate.com/california_yankee/2009/03/13/obama- channels-mccain/

Headline Could Also Read.......
...........Obama sinks the country.

They're White House Press Releases
Diane Sawyer, Katie Couric, Chris Matthews, et al have a case of restless leg syndrome everytime he speaks on tv. What he says is almost inconsequential. He's their dear leader.

Brent when you first started this in the late 80's at least some of the network anchors attempted to present themselves as objective. They no longer feel they're under such pressure. http://theclosetconservative.com

our ecoomy
Last week our nitwit in chief was telling us how bad things were, we were heading for disaster etc. Now this week everything is not so bad, this is what we get when we elect a person who has no experience except the gift of gab. I hope our liberal friends like seeing their futures going down the tubes because of this fool.

Hey Bill
You live in Illinois..what do you think of your Democrat led state..enjoying those taxes and unemployment..do you like all the Corrupt politicians that have emerged from that swamp?My Girlfriend lives in Chicago and she said the place is going to the dogs..crime is up and yall have become a nanny state..she is moving to Texas to get away from that hell hole if she can ever sell her home..the point of my posting was that he is liberally slanted and is most possibly making stuff up..if Cheney was ever convicted of such stuff and it was proven I would be saying I was wrong..but in MY country you are innocent until proven guilty..not the smutty conspiracy theories that emerge from Libs..and thanks for correcting my spelling..it was flea..just hit the wrong key...

Hey Denise
Did you manage to alert your fellow fringies yesterday in time to close their credit card accounts after Norm Coleman published donor;s private information, complete with security codes, on his website?

Gosh, we liberals make you conservatives do such dumb stuff!

This dem-made crisis
might just take on a life of its own and escape beyond their control.
Hmmm. Frankenstein comes to mind.

Obama has lowered the stock market?
Geez, do you geeky cons ever read the newspaper?

The markets been rising for three days.

Bozo's headline
"Obama sinks the markets"????

Is that like "the internets"?????

So if the past two months..
have been Bush's fault, does that mean the rise in the Market are also his fault? Or is Bush's fault when bad things happen, and Obama's when good things happen? A terrorist attack on the US tomorrow will be Bush's fault, right? But if a Military Unit in Afghanistan that was deployed there under Bush's watch that takes out Osama tomorrow, that will be Obama's doing?

Help me out dems.

Baradiel - get a grip
The only person who claimed the market was anyone's personal fault was the moron who wrote this column.

What a great website.
I'm so happy to have discovered townhall.com. Conservatives are such mind boggling fools that I know I'll get a whole lot of laughs by staying tuned in to your mindless articles and commentary.

Keep drinking your paranoia juice and be sure to stock up on lots of ammo. Hopefully you'll all end up shooting yourselves.

How about a Palin/Limbaugh ticket next time out. You might carry 2 or 3 of the poorest, most undereducated states.

JR
Hey Denise
Did you manage to alert your fellow fringies yesterday in time to close their credit card accounts after Norm Coleman published donor;s private information, complete with security codes, on his website?

Gosh, we liberals make you conservatives do such dumb stuff!

I'm glad that you haven't given up your abject HATRED of your fellow Americans. The problem, according to the MN Indy, was that wikileaks.org put the information on its website. I hope your happy because your taxdollars, which were used to bolster Bank of America, had to eat $9,500 that had been fraudently charged to my credit card.

If I were an absolutely f*cking insane person like you libs, I would say, I hope that you have a heart attack (Cheney) or die of cancer (Tony Snow, Lee Atwater), but I am not.

My fellow American, I will you a happy and joyous life.

BYW: Just so that you know, I am a registered Independent. Of course, considering "you kind of people", I hope YOUR President FAILS miserably. Even Rasmussen and Doug Schoen(D) argue today in the WSJ that Odumbo's strong disapproval ratings are up to 42%. The differential is +6%. Lastly, YOUR President's approval ratings are lower than GWB's at this time in his Presidency. So long loon.

Edward
We look forward to reading more of your highly informative, logical comments in the future.

Wow, "paranoia juice"! You are SO smart. I can hardly wait for more of your elucidating commentary.

Dang, I think I just felt a thrill go up my leg.

Prepare yourselves
for the great IRA grab to come. There will be a long list of good reasons why it is necessary, not to mention fair, that the feds must take a big chunk from our severly diminished savings. To save the country. To get health care up and running. 'Cause the poor really need it. The very fact that you have an IRA/401-K is proof that you have more money than you need.

Dems have floated this idea a few times in the past. They'll be back.

The insane left
Remember this?

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/09/with-tre mors-co.html

John McCain's comment on a 'strong' economy sets up the day's debate

With tremors continuing to shake Wall Street, John McCain began his campaign day standing by his guns, saying this to a crowd in Jacksonville, Fla.: "Our economy, I think, still, the fundamentals of our economy are strong."

From a purely political standpoint, the week could not have started any better for Democratic strategists.

Democrats said he was nuts, maybe, but this was not an indication of it.

Now Obama says the same thing and is the toast of the insane left.

"Obama: Fundamentals of the Economy Are Strong"
http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2008/09/obama_f undamentals_of_the_econ.asp

Fred
Get a grip. You are telling me NO ONE has blamed Bush for the economy. What rock have you been living under?

All we have been hearing from bam bam is "I inherited this"

Oh and Edward, Palin/Limbaugh ticket? You really want to put up President Telepromter in a debate against Palin unfettered by the McCain Campaign? How about bumbling Biben against Limbaugh in a debate? Seriously, think before you post.

Just flagged you Edward
You filthy low life

Bozell - Wrong About Almost Everything
Just like most Haller-type Cons. He wants to defend George W. Bush and Phil Gramm? The Republican party and conservatives are so flippin' void of ideas and leaders it's laughable. As the economy starts to turn, Cons will once again be left holding the bag. The Mark Levin Wing of the Republican party is a myopic brand of poison that can carry a few Southern states and some scattered, incurious individuals. You've earned your place in the minority and most will only laugh as you and yours look to likes of Mitt Romney for leadership. The Republican Party is such a pant load right now it's not even funny. Good luck righting your ship.

Faults
J.R. Location: IL writes:
"Obama has lowered the stock market?
Geez, do you geeky cons ever read the newspaper?

The markets been rising for three days."

So is that Bush's fault or Obama's fault?
If Obama what magic line was crossed3 days ago?


Leaks
Wikileaks.org comment on the Coleman incident.
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http://wikileaks.org/wiki/The_Big_Bad_Database_of_Senator_N orm_Coleman

Coleman released full credit details, but Wikileaks did not.

Although the Coleman database contains full credit card numbers, security numbers and all personal necessary details needed to make a transaction. Wikileaks did not release these. Wikileaks released the last 4 digits and the security numbers only, and then only after notifying those concerned:

A number of people tried to raise the issue back in January, without releasing any information at all. There was no response from the Coleman Campaign and the material had been "floating around" the Internet for at least six weeks.

Please try to avoid the quite natural desire to shoot the messenger.

Coleman supporters only know about the issue because of our work. Had it been up to Senator Coleman, they would never have known.

As part of our public benefit maximization strategy, we privately contact concerned parties before releasing a major leak. That is why we contacted Coleman supporters directly. We would have liked donors to have had several days to digest the findings in private, but Senator Coleman decided to publicly "spin" the issue, including denying that any leak had occurred, forcing us to respond.
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Brent writes:
"On March 3, President Obama said something remarkably stupid........
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Be remarkable if that moron ever said anything intelligent

Rising and Falling
The stock market also fell when world war 2 ended yet it rose when the titanic sunk. People need to learn, two items can have a correlation but that doesn't imply causation. Oh and what's the response to the market having it's best week of the year.

Joe, MA
"Oh and what's the response to the market having it's best week of the year."

Gee, since the markets are forward-looking and are driven by confidence, perhaps, the fact that Mr. Doom-and-Gloom/Crisis/Catastophe/The Sky Is Falling STF up this week had a great deal to do with the week! Amazing what a little talking UP the economy can do, isn't it? In fact, Larry "Gekko" Sommers is even talking about the fact that a little "Greed Is Good". Maybe, Obama is finally learning what Sir Issac Newton discovered centuries ago!

Heads in sand bring USA down!
I can forgive the naive, uninformed voters who put the Novice/Rookie Obama in the White'House, because the smooth talking Obamas gift of gab, seduced them! But now that his false spin to win their votes has been revealed, many broken promises and flip flops etc.,there is no excuse for any blind faith lately. Its so obvious that the Presidency is over the misguided Obamas head, yet his programed robots, those without a mind of their own are too embarrassed or cowardly to admit their mistake! Could they be that clueless?! Ex Democrat

Up to Date, Not
Did Bozell write and submit this article last week? How embarrassing for him. This week the DOW rose 9%, NASDAQ 10.6%.

Beguiled 'O'lovers take off the blinders
We've heard it all before, a never ending stream of negatives/disapproval of our President but its well deserved! God deliver us from the Obamacan'ts 'illusions of grandeur' their superman 'O' is but a strawman! Heads in the sand have pulled America down! Ex Democrat

Vicky - French Socialists

Did you see the chart on page 11 of Obama's budget, which alleges that Reaganomics did not work? It is the work of two French Socialists, who advised the Socialist candidate for President of France in the last election. So, I guess we can safely say that Obama is, at least, sympathetic to socialism. The document is written in the first person so Mr. I, Me, My, Mine, revealed his true colors and can no longer claim that the socialist label is the product of some Vast Right-Wing Fringe Conspiracy.


Correction:
"The Dow has now fallen more than 50 percent from its peak."

This statement is misleading. In fact, the DOW has given back 100% of its gains since 1995 (inflation adjusted).

Take about stupidity ...
Take about stupidity coming from someone who is hailed by almost everyone, but especially the "media", as brilliant! I have two theories. President Obama is really stupid about way too many things! My "most favored" is he has a socialist agenda! Both explain his terrible poor, or terrible good performance. That is performance in the sense of turning this economic crisis around; but brilliant in terms of his real agenda - socialism! Think about this for a while! Logically that is!

meaningless ?
"savings just half vanished over the last few months, and the president is telling him it's just a meaningless blip."


that's exactly what he thinks....he who never had to go out into the real working world to earn a living, he who advocated (community organized) to get $$ from people who did, has NO CLUE about what it means...

but he has the time to concern himself with what people (radio talk shows) are saying about him

Vicki & JR
"The markets been rising for three days."

So is that Bush's fault or Obama's fault?
If Obama what magic line was crossed3 days ago?"
I hate to burst your bubble and truly hope you aren't fooled for this is called "A BearTrap" when an uptick happens during a Bear Market..so please don't jump into the stock market yet..It's so idiotic to say those banks made a profit..of COURSE they did...they recieved BILLIONS of our taxpayers money..what people need to watch is the unemployment..when that stops and we start adding people to the payroll is one good sign..when you see the bluechips start a steady rise is another sign..Capitalism doesn't like his Socialistic/Marxist policies and will continue to flounder..As long as he continues to tax raising the governments portion of the GDP..we shan't see any good signs in the Market

O'Dumbo Lied; the Economy Died
OMG, O'Dumbo doesn't even realize profits & earnings (when speaking about investments) ARE THE SAME THINGS! And notice how the majority of lib-tards either, outright lie, change the subject or ignore the obvious! BUSH led the Dow to record highs. Then the Dems took control of Congress (the opposite of PROgress) and the Dow started a permenant decline. O'Dumbo's apocalyptic lies and Congress' decision to spend TRILLIONS, on everything BUT what's wrong in our economy, have continued the slide.
Lilly:(#120) CONGRADS! A whole 9% increase in value with only 29% yet to go! Just to reach the point BUUUUSH was at, after 2 years of the Dem Congress sabotaging the economy! (41% to go to reach the point Bush & the Repub Congress was at, at it's peak) D'ya think billions of free money, from Congress, might have something to do with that pathetic 9% recovery???
Shill(#6) ~doesn't add up~ A 4-day recovery, after 2 MONTHS OF DECLINE, doesn't add up! Please go and take your meds! Want an economic plan? Let's have the Repubs back in the the congressional majority and follow Bush's economic policy!!! It led to record Dow highs! I don't understand why, exactly, but it WORKED! (and so were hundreds of thousands of Americans too!) Thanx for the depression O'Dumbo, Princess Pelosi and Harry the Red!
(O'Dumbo)Slave(#37) & SJ:(#43) O'Dumbo has no effect on the economy? Then why has it consistantly (before billions of OUR dollars were given away) been that O'Dumbo talks and the Dow goes down? Coincidence??? Naaaw, our Messiah wouldn't do THAT!!! -sarcasm off-

High taxes create American prosperity
While I didn't vote for Obama, I hope that he will be a miracle worker to repair the damage Conservatives under Bush have inflicted upon our nation. We can all be glad that the stock market is recovering, its not over yet and could tank again.

Millions of Americans are still being thrown out of work and home foreclosures continue at record high rates.In the last qurter of 2008 $5 Trillion was drained from Americans pockets and wealth under the Bush economy.8 years of crony Capitalism cannot be fixed in a few months time.

What's needed for America to return to prosperity and opportunity is to impose much higher taxes on the wealthy who've gotten a free ride on the backs of the working Americans for years and failed to pay their fair share in social responsibility.

The proof that high taxes on the wealthy makes America prosperous has been established with 80 years of historical proof.

Under Eisenhower, the top tier tax rate was 91% for the wealthy and America did very well.

Under Nixon, the top tier tax rate was 70% and America still did well.

Reagan lowered the top tier tax rate to 50% and our nation began creating huge deficits creating two big recessions.

Bush I (the Wimp) lowered the top tier tax rate to 28% and created a severe recession and was thrown out of office for his utter incompetence and stupidity.

Clinton raised taxes and repaired the economy greatly improving our nation.

Bush II (The Compassionate Conservative) like his dad lowered taxes on the wealthy elites causing our economy again to tank and creating the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression.

For those who want the facts, the proof is in the numbers and graphs at MoveOn.Those who argue otherwise are simply misinformed or greedy or just plain evil and want America to fail.

http://pol.moveon.org/budget10/chart/?rc=homepage

To vamtns41
You said:

"Take about stupidity ...
Take about stupidity coming from someone who is hailed by almost everyone, but especially the "media", as brilliant! I have two theories. President Obama is really stupid about way too many things! My "most favored" is he has a socialist agenda! Both explain his terrible poor, or terrible good performance. That is performance in the sense of turning this economic crisis around; but brilliant in terms of his real agenda - socialism! Think about this for a while! Logically that is! "

Well, if Obama's agenda is SOCIALISM, then that's excellent for America. We've seen under Bush's Conservative rule, that Capitalism is a failed economic system and cannot function w/o massive investor looting, great public deception, outright fraud, phantom profits, cooking the books, outsourcing American jobs and insourcing illegals to cut down families and workers and unions. Capitalism is a dead system that has run its course and proven itself unworkable as an economic system.

In terms of Obama's intelligence, he is definately a gifted speaker and politician. Bush now looks even an even bigger moron and buffoon then ever before. Bush's election by not once but twice by Conservatives speaks volumes about just how gullible so many of you are fooled by a stuffed shirt and tie.

First,
Oh, well, if the folks at moveon.org say it, then it must be so...

Say, aren't they they one's who started the rumor that Sarah Palin's youngest son was actually her grandson? And have they found the fragments of that USAF missile that hit the Pentagon yet?

BTW, my boss would no doubt qualify as one of "the rich." And in return for working for him, he pays may salary and a good portion of my benefits. He's hardly getting a "free ride" off the back of this worker....I provide him a service and in return he compensates me. That's the way it works, it's not some zero-sum game.

you cant fix stupid
Obama says something remarkably stupid everytime he opens his mouth.

Misdirection.
First writes:
"For those who want the facts, the proof is in the numbers and graphs at MoveOn."

http://pol.moveon.org/budget10/chart/?rc=homepage"



I notice that in your offered chart Moveon showed the full tax history with reasonable accuracy but failed to point to 1924-1928 which was a very good time for the economy. They also conveniently pointed to Reagan's 50% (Down from %70 under Nixon) and skipped right over Reagan's 28% to bush at 35%

So yes you are correct. The proof is in the numbers but like a Stage Magician the chart attempts to pull your attention away from important details so that you miss the actual benefits of tax reduction and the curse of high taxes.

http://www.mackinac.org/article.aspx?ID=48

Who creates deficits?
First writes:
"Reagan lowered the top tier tax rate to 50% and our nation began creating huge deficits creating two big recessions"

Ummm..... Who began creating huge deficits? That would be Congress. You know the ones that vote on budgets. Our nation does not create deficits. Our Representatives create deficits by spending more then they get. Now unfortunately for your argument lowering taxes did NOT lower the amount the government took in. Instead it went up a LOT
http://www.mackinac.org/article.aspx?ID=48 (Yes I know I did just post this link but it is a cite for this point too.)

The CONGRESS created bigger and bigger deficits by spending more and more and more.

Obama Sinks the Markets
What was clear to some of us during the campaign is now, daily, more obvious to all. Obama is an opportunist. He is a radical socialist and is incompetent -- totally over his head as POTUS. God help the United States of America. ArubaOne

Blind and stupid=the msm
It was quite obvious all through the last election that the press was in the tank or our new President.One even had a tinglie feeling running up his leg,one wonders if that could have actually been him wetting his pants?

The media will die before they report accuratley the stumbling,miss statements,socialist adjenda and down right stupidity coming out of the White House.

The left leaning media,both talk and newspaper are loosing their audience.Why the public is smarter than they are given credit for,they want facts so we can make our own decisions.

Look out we have 2010 coming up and I sincerly believe their will be more change,we have seen the change from this new admistration.I kept an open mind,but when he started apointing his cabinet, it was very clear what he was doing.I prayed and hoped that what I believed would be his goal was not going to happen.When Presidnt Clinton was elected I made the comment that the only reason I could come up with why God let this happen,was he wanted us to see just how bad things could get. Eight years of Clinton,the nightly news became Sex education 101,and a school in picking ones friends that won't turn on you no matter what you do

We now have a President that is not qualified,and is a socalist to the core.We need to pray and pray every day that God will send him wisdom and that he will actually listen.The mantra of change we now know the path and I don't think most Americans want that kind of change. Remember we have 2010 coming up.

Yvonne
But...but...but...he was the head of the HARVARD Law Review and he (or someone) wrote those two (2) WONDERFUL autobiographies (wonder how many more he'll do before he dies). He MUST, just MUST be highly intelligent.

For goodness sake, why should business be afraid of socialism? Are they only in it for the MONEY??? They should all be more like The Poor: don't do ANYTHING for money. That's why The Poor are Noble and The Rich are evil. The Rich only produce goods and services so they can make MONEY.

First is right, capitalism cannot work. It's a pure miracle that, under capitalism, we've become the strongest, wealthiest nation with the most freedom the world has ever known and the richest poor on the planet. No, Socialism is the only answer. And Global Warming is just the hoax to facilitate its installation. By making all of us poor and destroying the Evil Businesses, the politicians will be the only ones with big cars, fancy jets, and $100/pound steak. Sounds excellent. For the politicians.

/sarcasm off





to Yvonne in KS
You said:


"The left leaning media,both talk and newspaper are loosing their audience.Why the public is smarter than they are given credit for,they want facts so we can make our own decisions."

Actually the American media has a noticable right wing Capitalist apologist agenda. Looking at other news sites like BBC or Reuters, you can see how the news tries to manipulate public opionion by wording, ommission and emphasis. However, the public is smarter than the both what Republican's and the news media generally think. That's why Obama landslided McCain while Republicans believed their own lies.

"When Presidnt Clinton was elected I made the comment that the only reason I could come up with why God let this happen,was he wanted us to see just how bad things could get. Eight years of Clinton,the nightly news became Sex education 101,and a school in picking ones friends that won't turn on you no matter what you do"

Let's not forget all those Republican sex criminals. In the 80's we saw Sweatty Sinner Swaggert and Jim Baker both committing adultry. Then during Clinton, we saw hypocrits Newt and Henry Hyde having affairs with young interns as they criticized Clinton for enjoying sex. Meanwhile, Larry Craig was busy in airport restrooms looking for gay anonymous sex and Mark Foley was trolling the internet for young boys while spouting the "Family values" agenda.

Ted Haggard (Bush's spiritual advisor) and preacher at the New Life Church in Colorado Springs spoke continually about the abomination and horrors of homosexuality. Yet, he was off having a joy hump for years with a male prostitute and doing meth to get high. Conseravtives don't even believe what they preach so why should liberals believe them?

Those who see the difference between what Conservatives say and how Conservatives actually behave decide its wiser to vote for Democrats then be victims of self deception.

What do you expect--
From a Green A-- Kid, who wouldn't know how to start a Lawn-mower, Let alone jump-start the Economy. The little B never WORKED a day in his LIFE, and EVERYTHING was GIVEN to Him, by his Commie Grandfather and Commie Mother. As if that weren't enough, the bleeding heart liberals at the Colleges he Attended, Gave him his Grades, That's why ya can't get his College transcripts!! But--He's oh so Brilliant, just ask Allen Combes!

Bias
First Location: MA
"Actually the American media has a noticeable
right wing Capitalist apologist agenda."

Proof by bald assertion.

The American media (MSM) has a noticeable LEFT WING socialist agenda

http://community.tri-cityherald.com/?q=node/1180
http://www.mediaresearch.org/
http://newsbusters.org/
http://www.nowpublic.com/world/media-bias-against-clinton-a nd-what-obama-doesnt-want-you-know
http://www.youdecidepolitics.com/2008/10/27/media-bias-rega rding-obamas-palins-past-associations-new-party-aip/



Thought not everyone agrees.
http://www.reuters.com/article/businessNews/idUSTRE4A57GA20 081106?pageNumber=2&virtualBrandChannel=10272&sp=true
http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=3612


Notice the difference between bald assertion and opinion backed with cites.

DJIA
the temperature just bobs up and down, sort of like a tracking poll. you don't want to base a long term strategy on it.

OBAMA SINKING IN POLLS
Couldn't happen to a nicer person. HOORAY the sheeps are waking up.
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