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Friday, January 30, 2009
Brent Bozell :: Townhall.com Columnist
Why Do We Love Profanity?
by Brent Bozell
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McKay Hatch is a 15-year-old boy from South Pasadena, Calif., who people clearly hate. He's received over 60,000 negative e-mails, most of them vicious, some including death threats that have spawned police and FBI investigations. What has this boy done that's caused such anger? Was he caught dealing drugs? Did he rage? Did he kill? No. He started a No Cussing Club.

And for that he is vilified. Hatch says some people are going out of their way to curse him at school, on the Internet and on the phone. They send him pornographic magazine subscriptions. Not long ago, someone ordered $2,000 worth of pizza delivered to Hatch's house. Then came the death threats.

Brent Hatch, the teenager's father, told reporters one death threat in particular crossed the line. "I was at the hospital with my wife, and we were visiting family, and some guy had called on my cell phone said, 'I know you you're gone, you're not there. I'm in front of your house, and I'm going to kill your family.'"

If the purveyors of profanity think that cussing is so harmless, why are some of them so unbelievably hostile to anyone suggesting a voluntary ban on the bleeps?

McKay Hatch isn't buckling. "It's really scary, because people are calling us all night," he says. "Sometimes we have to unplug the phone. You know, at first it was really kind of scary, but they're just bullies, and they want you to be scared. And so I'm not gonna let them win." His No Cussing Club now boasts 20,000 members.

Let me repeat something here. This boy is 15 years old. He didn't just stumble into activism. It's a family mission. McKay's parents are authors of a book titled "Raising a G-Rated Family in an X-Rated World." Profanity wasn't allowed at home. Hatch says none of his friends in elementary school ever swore, but when they got to middle school, "everyone started cussing," he says. "The reason it bothered me the most is because it was something they were using every other word, kind of like the word 'the.' They kept using it and using it."

Hatch suggests that instead of cuss words, his school friends could use alternative exclamations when frustrations inevitably occur. He told Jay Leno his favorite was "pickles," but he also suggests "barnacles" and "sassafras." He even has a rap-music video on YouTube where he and some friends walk to the beat down the street in their orange club T-shirts and chant, "Don't Cuss." It's severely at odds with the kind of language that usually permeates rap videos.

Sadly, most of popular culture seems headed in the opposite direction. Bubble-headed pop princess Britney Spears, desperate to stay in the spotlight after years of embarrassments and humiliations, has a new single coming out called "If You Seek Amy." If that doesn't spell trouble, then pay a little more attention to Britney's snappy lyric, as she claims, "All of the boys and all of the girls are begging to If You Seek Amy." This lyric doesn't make any grammatical sense, until you read it phonetically. She's spelling out the F-bomb.

Britney's now casting herself as the new Tila Tequila, the latest MTV temptress so fetching that she's a poster girl for bisexual incontinence.

Parents in Australia were the first to complain, and now American radio stations are hearing the din from activists warning that the "Amy" song would violate the broadcast indecency law if aired between the hours of 6 a.m. and 10 p.m. But radio stations are picking it up anyway. It's hit No. 92 on the Billboard Hot 100 chart. Jive Records is already boasting there's been more than 100,000 digital downloads of the song. It's the third release off the new Britney disc, appropriately titled "Circus."

For more skittish programmers, a Jive-edited version of the song excises the "k" from "Seek," leaving the audience with "If You See Amy" (leaving a misspelled F-bomb). Some inventive disc jockeys are throwing their own names over the "Me," so for instance when the chorus plays, it'll go "All of the boys and all of the girls are begging to if you seek George." And people think saying "pickles" like a cuss word is lame.

Record companies and radio stations don't seem to make business decisions that imagine parents driving with young children in the car with the radio on. Or maybe that's exactly what they have in mind. If it's shocking and offensive enough, it will be a great sales and publicity vehicle.

The No Cussing Club has quite a challenge in front of it. It's an X-rated world, indeed.

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It depends on where you stand
If you stand for decency and receive 60,000 hate emails it's not news. If you stand for perversion and receive 2 hate emails it's all over the national headlines.

This is Smart
Ideas end where profanity begins.

Sigh!
I'm sitting here just shaking my head sadly.

Its just so over the top that its hard to say anything whatsoever.

Free Speech vs. Harassment
Anybody who wants to start a club against cussing is fine so long as they don't actively try to restrict people's free speech. But being threatened just because of a point of view crosses a fundemental line that goes beyond free speech and enters harassment. This kid does not deserve that for just having a point of view.

cussing
Web_master is right, if you stand for decency and receive 60,000 hate mails and death threats it's not news (or apparently a crime)!

I admire the kids stand but saying "Pickles" for "S___" is still 'cussing'. God and everyone else knows you mean "S___". Learn to use your vocabulary to express yourself.




This was already covered
Southpark Episode 502 "It Hits the Fan". A thoroughly entertaining look into the overuse and misuse of swear words. Of course, you have to go in with an open mind, and....

you know what? Bad idea. I should have known better. Consider the article, deduce the audience, and ascertain the generalized perception thereof....

Defending the realism of the entire situation, congrats to McKay for creating a market and supplying it. He has likely paid for whatever college education he wishes, and this will be a good springboard into the ministry should he follow that path. And yes, it seems more than a little overblown to respond to childish nonsense (have you seen this website?) with death threats.

Guess I won't be "hang"ing out with McKay. I had hoped to watch 101 Dalmations....

Oh, and Brent
the answer to your question, "Why do we love profanity?" is because people like you exist.

What is going on . . . ?
What kind of world do we live in, where you are harassed for NOT using profanity?
And yet idiots are paying big bucks to see Britney!!

Interesting Observation on Profanity
I don't know that this will advance the discussion one way or another but it is an interesting point to consider. Someone (I think it might have been the writer Updike who recently died but I may remember that wrong) has observed that in predominantly Catholic countries the worst swear words are religious words while in predominantly Protestant countries the worst swear words have to do with biological functions.

Swearing is evidence of a weak mind
'nuff said...

When I started having kids
Profanity became banned (for the most part) in my household. There have been notable slips, but we're cognizant of our language. I actually got into the habit of saying God Bless America instead of the Reverend Wright version. I heard my son say it once...kinda made me smile. My sister and brother-in-law -- good people -- but when it comes to profanity, undisciplined. I hear JC and GD all the time. Swearing and cussing are totally unnecessary. I'm finishing my basement and doing the best I can, but there are a lot of God Bless America's and Jeez Louise's to be heard!

The dumb down of culture.
If it were just Rabelaisian, we'd call it raunch and cast a disapproving eye. Trouble is the use of the curse to express so many things is present because it's easy to be dumb and crude in a society that doesn’t past judgment on others.

Not unlike the increasing use of hand waving and gesticulating that seems to have come from hip-hop, cussing limits the speaker.

Traditionally, persons that used their hands constantly to express what would have been otherwise verbal thoughts were thought to be limited in development or education. Now, chest thumps and hand chops to the air are what pass for passion or sincerity in some speakers.

Add to the list the tats that are ubiquitous on so many. The culture of the tattoo was once was relegated to lowest prole or salty sea dog.

Profanity increases because we don’t cherish the quality of speech in this society. Schools and homes don’t rush to get their children into oratorical contests and vulgarity is accepted as street smarts.

When I was a child watching Firing Line, I sensed that the way Mr. Buckley and Mr. Kinsley were able to express themselves was a path I wanted for myself. Who are the Wm. Buckley’s today and where is that path now?

Culture evolves and devolves both and some times simultaneously.

The right to cussing must be earned
I'm fine with using curse words, as long as it has been amply demonstrated that the person using said words knows how to communicate without them.
Cursing can be effective. For instance, when my spiritual, physicist, poet father used the F word you'd better believe his kids took notice. When I walk past the local middle school at 3pm and hear the F bombs flying, all I can think of is "Don't teachers give homework anymore?"

"the overflow ot the heart"
I never forgot an elementary school teacher who observed to us, "If you can't say what you mean without swearing, then you don't speak English very well." That was almost 40 years ago and I don't even remember which teacher it was, but the sentiment sure stuck with me. "What comes out of your mouth is the overflow of what is in your heart."
.............

"Are you still so dull?" Jesus asked them. "Don't you see that whatever enters the mouth goes into the stomach and then out of the body? But the things that come out of the mouth come from the heart, and these make a man 'unclean.' For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander. These are what make a man 'unclean'; but eating with unwashed hands does not make him 'unclean.'
--- Matthew 15:16-19

All kinds of animals, birds, reptiles and creatures of the sea are being tamed and have been tamed by man, 8but no man can tame the tongue. It is a restless evil, full of deadly poison.
--- James 3:7

oh stop this nonsense
Who cares if we cuss, or if we don't wear suits in the Oval office? It is all nonsense. I curse like a sailor, but not in business situations.

It isn't the dumbing down of anything.

Quality of people

You can really tell the quality of a person by the level of profanity in their speech.

7Sticks
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That said, however, it is somewhat peculiar to claim that a Britney Spears song title seems to imply the word "f*ck"
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It took me a few minutes too. It's a bit obscure.
"If You Seek Amy":
If = F
You = U
Seek+A[my] = C, K
[A]my = me


Good for him!
It makes me glad to see a young person standing up for decency, especially when so many of his peers use worse language than my drill instructors used. A man once told me that the use of profanity just shows that you don't have the intelligence to think up something else to say. All those haters who are trying to bully him are just showing their intelligence, or lack thereof.

Chloe, I feel sorry for you. You are bragging about cursing like a sailor. Cursing from anyone's mouth is bad enough, but coming from someone that is supposed to be a lady is just tacky, to say the least. You must be a real jewel to be around.

"She didn't hear that from me!"
Why do people swear? Because they lack imagination, and because they don't have toddlers who repeat every word they say at the worst possible time.

When we used to hang around hockey players a lot, my friend and I learned all the Quebec swear words which are references to holy items in the Catholic church. (In fact, the most emphatic curse in Quebec used to be "Calisse d'tabernac!") We could say that in Los Angeles ni perfect safety.

But the poster is right that substitute words are still swearing; Granny used to talk about giving somebody "Hail Columbia Happy Land" but we all knew what she meant. Although I do remember that when someone was punished for saying [expletive] when he his his thumb with a hammer, and protested, "What am I supposed to say?" Granny suggested, "You could say 'ouch'" which made perfect sense.

Good for McKay!
Its tough enough in todays world for a kid just to be a kid. This kid is amazing in the fact that he is doing something positive for himself, his family and complete strangers.

This kid is the prime example of 'we can all find common ground' in something, and once that common ground is found, we can do something about it.

Go McKay! I am rooting for you and your success!

get over it
People should leave the Cali kid alone and likewise ignore Britney. Some people curse and some don't. There are real issues in the world.

thats different
good for that kid. Maybe he sees the filth in Hollywood and unlike most kids would rather toot his own horn. kudos to him.

How do I join that club?
It's a great idea. I'm glad he thought of it. In a decrepit, corrupt world, it is good to see young people willing to take a stand for what is clean and decent, willing to take a stand against the culture, willing to do what is right against the world. God bless him.

Poor kid...
He's obviously being used by his hack author parents as a publicity stunt. I hope he doesn't get beat up too much in school. Their book was garbage. Go ahead and read it for a laugh. It's basically a guide on how to raise your kids to be shocked and offended by everything they see.

CHLOE CA
WHAT'S IN THE WELL,COMES UP IN THE BUCKET.BEING YOU DON'T CUSS IN BUSINESS SITUATIONS SHOWS THEIR MAY BE STILL HOPE FOR YOU.YOU NEED TO BE BORN AGAIN(SAVED).READ JOHN CHAPTER THREE IN THE KJV BIBLE.

Profanity and emotions
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True profanity - as opposed to the deliberate use of such words for no purpose other than to inflame the susceptible - is employed in situations where the user's emotional state is agitated.

When someone is frightened or angry, for instance.

Remember the saying? "Women cry to keep from swearing, and men swear to keep from crying."

When words hitherto CONSIDERED obscenities slip into common speech (as in Boot Camp, when a recruit asks of his neighbor "Pass the f--king potatoes, willya?"), this is nothing more than a situational change in usage.

No emotional load. No big deal. In context, no offense is either intended or taken.

Hypersensitive idiots (such as Mr. Bozell and other similar social pseudoconservatives) fail to interpret these situations correctly. They rail against what they suppose to be a "coarsening" of language, and invariably demand government thuggery to suppress such behavior on the part of their neighbors.

That, of course, is where real obscenity enters.





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"STEPHEN HOPKINS: Well, I'll tell ya. In all my years I ain't never heard, seen, nor smelled an issue that was so dangerous it couldn't be *talked* about. Hell, yeah! I'm for debating anything. Rhode Island says yea!"

-- Sherman Edwards, Peter Stone (play and screenplay), *1776*

Brittany and her song
are offensive and a very poor example to young women everywhere. But, since this is America there is nothing not for sale - offensive music for your kids - dead babies for votes and money. Great nation on its way down into the sludge that our new president will do much to bring about. What you do would definitely be ok with me if you would only leave places where we could go to escape it. President Barack Hussein Mengele Obama is here to make it all okay.

Does anyone remember "Schoolhouse Rock"?
If you do, you know that "Interjections" ARE a legitimate part of speech.

According to Webster, one of the definitions of swear (and the appropriate one here) is "To use oaths: curse"and the definition of "swearword" is "Am obscene or blasphemous term".

Can people really not discriminate between an "interjection" and a "swear word"?? Besides that, the cuss words today are used more as adjectives or adverbs within a complete sentence. Do you really think the "f-word" is equivalent to, say, "green" or "magnanimous" or "silky"?

Now, there may be cultures where saying the English word "pickles" is considered cussing, but it's obvious that McKay Hatch is not part of that culture. I'd be willing to bet that, if he happen to stumble into it and used the word, he would apologize profusely for having offended and find a different word to use.

Sugar beets!

JD's get - On the ending of ideas
--
Blithers JD's Handsome Son:

"Ideas end where profanity begins."


Hm. There's an odious attitude toward ideation and the value of words as conceptual working elements.

Profanity - however one considers any word to be "profane" - is obviously rich in idea content. Were that not the case, profanity would not be used.

The various types of flaming bastiches who use expressions like "Ideas end where profanity begins" are simply trying to foreclose discussion on the dishonest basis of excusing a disputant's language as justification for dismissal.

It's an attempt to use emotional response instead of reasoned rebuttal, and as such is logically fallacious.

To the reasonable and reasoning individual, profanity is (at worst) "null noise." As an indicator of the emotional state, it can be quite valuable.

And as a test of a disputant's susceptibility to emotional incapacitation - and therefore his inability to maintain reasoned response to discussion - it serves extremely well.

People who consider certain issues or ideas "obscene" - literally "off scene," not to be considered, not to be discussed - are allowing their emotions to cripple their reasoning function.

They are therefore intrinsically helpless when faced with real-life situations in which such matters confront them, and vulnerable to all sorts of horrible consequences.

Keep that under consideration, will you? If you can't talk about something without going bugnuts, you can't cope with it when it walks up and spits in your eye.

This is not good for you. Or anyone else around you.

--

Michael Steele is First Black RNC chair

Great News! ! Michael Steele is first black RNC chairman.

WASHINGTON – Michael Steele was elected Republican National Committee chairman on Friday, defeating the incumbent party chief and three other challengers over six rounds of voting to become the first black to lead the GOP. The former Maryland lieutenant governor takes over a beleaguered GOP as Republicans seek to rebound from back-to-back defeats in national elections that gave Democrats control of Congress and the White House.

"As a little boy growing up in this town, this is awesome," said Steele, the most moderate candidate in the field and considered an outsider because he's not a committee member.

In a brief acceptance speech, the new GOP chairman struck a tone of inclusiveness.

"We're going to say to friend and foe alike: We want you to be a part of us, we want you to with be with us, and for those who wish to obstruct, get ready to get knocked over," Steele said.

He won 91 votes out of a possible 168 in the sixth round. A simple majority of 85 was needed, but it took six rounds for Steele to win."

I applaud that young man...
Call it hypcritical, but I won't use profanity in front of ladies or children. It shows a lack of respect for them. I have the fortune of working in an almost exclusive male environment. Needless to say, the profanities fly fast and furious. In answer to Mr. Bozell's question, we love profanity because sometimes only a profanity will do to express our feelings and emotions.

It's disgusting
I can't add much to what everyone else has shared, either from parents or teachers but I will say this.

My wife and I don't watch much TV but one of our favorite shows is "Hell's Kitchen." I used to work in food service and those wanna-be chefs are actually pretty typical of the trade; chain smoking, potty mouthed prima donnas.

I wrote several times last year complaining about the profanity, at one point even threatening to tell Chef Ramsey's Mum, but to no avail.

Last nights season premiere was one bleep, bleepity, bleep after another. Don't these people have a vocabulary larger than the dozen swear words plus I, me, you, and, uh, (you) know, like, etc.

It's a habit; a BAD habit and speaking from experience it takes 21 days to break it.

re: if you seek amy
OK, so if conservative commentators didn't pounce all over this, do you think the song would have 100,000 + downloads and all the free publicity generated by notoriety and the "forbidden fruit" aspect? This song probably would have passed in the night (like a lot of Britney songs should, from an asthetic viewpoint at least) if the usual suspects and parents weren't freaking out over a not-so-clever way to be naughty.

Look, pop music has put in "coded lyrics" for a while.. "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds" by the Beatles comes to mind.. and it's pretty much left for "those in the know" and those who don't know.. don't know.. now thanks to the culture warriors, EVERYONE knows the secret to "If you seek Amy" whether they cared or not..and be sure that all the negative attention and notoriety is now driving many of the downloads from people who probably wouldn't have given this song a second thought.. hey Bozell! Britney says "thank you" for the free publicity and revenue : )

McKay
I am SO with you on this. I am part of the no cussing group and a new member of your fan club. Keep up the good work. We need young people like you and my own non-cussing teens to lead the way!

on another note
The kid starting up a "no-cussing club"..fine... I would question those who are persecuting him, after all he is doing the most libertarian thing possible, he is offering no cussing as a choice, not as government-mandated "decency" and those who are threatened by him need to get a grip and cut the bullshi* , haha.

On the other hand, the outrage against cussing kind of generates..well, more cussing.. Words are words are words after all.. there are times and places where cussing is appropriate.. and making a certain subset of words into a bigger deal than they ought to be is counter-productive. Going back to the "forbidden fruit" argument.. once the "establishment" starts frettin' kids start-a cussin'..

rock song
april wine had a song back in the early 80's titled "if you see kay (tell her i love her)" so this isn't anything new.so i guess brents point is all those 60,000 negative e-mails were from liberals.oh well lol.

Cuss words are used by those......
who are insecure, have no sense of right and wrong, have no respect for others, are selfish, do not think of long-term consequences, are jealous, are envious, are indolent, are self-seeking, are self-righteous, and are slothful......and probably a whole lot more.

Think about it.

For non-cussers, keep on keeping on. You are the ones who will succeed.

the good old "moral" days
While teen pregnancy and the lack of responsibility values that exist are extremely troubling to me, too many conservatives (including Bozell) focus way too much on other "morality" issues. 150 years ago, if you were poor living in one room in a farm, you would have first hand knowledge about sex. You might have had pigs living in your hut -- and your parents had no room for privacy and procreation. So, kids were exposed to this kind of stuff all the time.

I view teen pregnancy as a lack of responsibility issue which should always lead to (1) marriage or (2) adoption.

1 plus 1 plus 1
One comment so far stunned about the outrageous persecution of a 15 y.o. kid who takes a stand against cussing.

One comment on the concern about how God Almighty weighs in on the idea of profanity.

One more comment here about the fact that if you are profane, you don't fear God. If you don't care what God thinks now, you will later. We will all give an account for the words of our mouths to Him.

Out of the mouth comes words of life or death; words of blessing or cursing. Take a shot at where God comes down on this so called "none issue" by some.

George
I think I will give it a try

You're a big f**king idiot!

Wow, I do feel better! Thanks!

Please go back
Don't you vulgar liberals have enough webs sites of your own....stop polluting go away. The hate filled sanctamonious rants belong on your movedondotorg where you can compete with each other on your level of hate....these posts used to be intellectual and civil...and then your kind invaded. I for one really despise and avoid your kind and just wish you'd all crawl back into your holes...please.

George in NY: right on cue
Thanks, George, for illustrating so well that which passes for intelligent discourse on your side of the aisle.

Sure, calling President Bush a "f---ing idiot" is an applause line, but recall the words of Christopher Hitchens (who, I'll concede, has a bit of a mouth on him too): "'Bush is stupid' is the joke that stupid people laugh at."

I never call Obama stupid, not even when he is: when I'm feeling generous, I call him an *unwitting* servant of Evil. When not, of course, I omit the gerundive.


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Crippling Language
Your language defines you. If you insist on using profanity to express yourself it indicates to me that you are suffering from LVS--Limited Vocabulary Syndrome.

We can excuse rappers because most of them did not have a decent education and street argot is the only thing they know. But young people who think they are hip by using four-letter expletives are not aware that once they get into the real world and look for a decent white-collar career or job they will soon find out their vocabulary may be a serious impediment.

Remember: Your language defines you in front of your friends, relatives, and fellow work associates and it can be a career asset or a crippling deficit.

Charles Martel
I will call Obama stupid, it is a good adjective for him. Just watch him trying to use that window at the white house as a door.

What the....
"Americans are funny about curse words; it has to do with the idiot pilgrims, and their legacy. The American public did not turn against Richard Nixon, until the tapes were revealed and he turned out to be a garbage mouth. That did him in."

"Garbage mouth," hmmm. Try an experiment, all you plus cussers. Next job interview, use every cuss word you can think of. Use it to express joy, anger, confusion, hope, fear... just turn on the faucet, let'er rip! Obama's stimulus will cover your mortgage and health care. You don't really want to work anyway.
In fact, in that interview, call everyone there, in jest of course, a mother......er. It's a free country after all. F..... freedom of f........... speech yo mama! Start a club and write a book. Sell it to Franken. Better yet, get him to collaborate. Blago needs work too. He can write the f.......... forward to your f.............. masterpiece.

Of course
Carlin, Lenny Bruce. Art forms.
To some, people who choose their words and eschew others are always repressed. Well, the national treasure passed away recently, and his former years were better, artistically speaking (personal assessment) than his somewhat embittered latter years. It seems though, getting back to the article, that the most insecure ones are those who get angry at a 15 year-old who won't run with the pack. I'm sure many feel that he's a "holier than thou" type with repressed parents, and they're probably doubly sure that the kid and his parents are closet cussers that are "just the same as you and me so get off your high horse you Bible thumpers." I'm not threatened by the kid, his club or Carlin lovers. The lionization of cuss words is silly, and claiming that folks who choose other expressions are stunted or repressed is amusing.

Any truth to the rumor
that Brittney Spears is a fallen-away believer?

Well, gosh darn...
what a bunch of primadonnas we have today. Sometimes, a swear word gets stuff done.

While I generally do not even use the word damn in public, I did use it in a situation what was life threatening in the ICU.

When I was caring for a teenager who had leukemia, he was bleeding so badly from every orifice, we had two RN's in the room. I was hanging blood products continuously when he suddenly coughed and disconnected the ventilator hose from his oral tube. He took in a large amount of air and the tube began slipping down into his lungs!

I yelled to the other nurse whose back was turned to hand me a god dam* hemostat (like a pair of pliers with an end that can grab and latch onto thin products like plastic. She did, I grabbed the end of the tube and pulled it out to the edge of his mouth. Two seconds later, he vomited. Had we not been so quick, he would have inhaled all the food and died.

His parents made known their objection to my use of the words g & d to the physician who was the head of the unit. Hid reply: "Don't complain. Judy saved your son's life".

And now a quote from Mark Twain:
"But language is a treacherous thing, a most unsure vehicle, and it can seldom arrange descriptive words in such a way that they will not inflate the facts--by help of the reader's imagination, which is always ready to take a hand and work for nothing, and do the bulk of it at that."
- Following the Equator

Hoo Wee
My late wife had a special profanity
"Horse Pucky". Never heard her say anything worse.
I remember a true story my Pastor use to tell about his brother who was a missonary who had just returned to Ca. from several years in Africa. He had an old Datsun sedan. A fore runner to the Nissans of today. After having been tailgaited going over the pass from the San Joaquin valley into the San Fran. bay area. He could not pull over nor go faster than about 20 mph due to the heavily packed car/lack of HP and steep grade. He when reaching a safe place, pulled over to allow this irate guy in a pick up to pass. The guy followed, got out of his truck, using every curse word he could think of, dressed down this minister. The Minister waited until the guy appeared to run out of words and then in a calm voice said, "When you get home, I hope your mom runs out from under the porch and bites you". The guy's eyes opened wide, he spun around and got into his truck, sat there for a few minutes, got out and apologized to the minister, asking if he could be of help.
Sometimes there are those who just need to see themselves.

My fave
is 'damgone it'. Gets the point across, God's Name is kept holy (if I really wanted to say GDI I simply would, thanks!) and the need to spit consonants in tense situations is met.

OTOH, in a movie like Saving Private Ryan, the language is apropros to the situation. Not that I could ever watch that flick-too intense for my taste.

I really do NOT like the other stuff and am saddened, frankly, to hear the kids throwing that stuff around as though they're really impressing somebody. I've always felt it was only because they'd just hit puberty and so had begun smelling themselves...

Poor Little Rich Girl
Spears is like so many other 'stars'. She will do anything to be a celebrity. No matter who it hurts. All the little girls who want to be like Brittney.

Some day when she grows up,she may apologize to her followers for leading them astray,but it won't undo the wrong she has done to them.

Breathe
re-read the article. This thread is weaving around like a drunken sailor. Let's see, author's thesis: Going against popular culture and tradition is dangerous.

Controlling example: Many "liberated" adults who routinely use cuss words to express themselves are, ironically, uptight and defensive if they are challenged about their habit.
1. The author used an example of a young boy who has chosen not to cuss, and his choice is becoming popular enough to movivate others to do the same.

A. Many who support freedom of expression
via cussing are threatening him with harm.
B. Intimidation is the modus operandi of those "liberated" folk.

2. Britney Spears is an example of someone who, desiring to renew her "pop queen" status, has used the "F" word in code in one of her recent songs. Some of the uproar about it seems to be generating enough publicity to put the "oops I did it again" girl back into the rebellious teen limelight.

Conclusion: Going against the tide of tradition and pop culture norms is never easy, takes courage, and you will suffer.



Saving Private Ryan and the old days...
One of the few gripes the "greaest generation" veterans depicted in "Ryan" and in "Band of Brothers" had was that they said they didn't swear nearly as much as the modern guys who made the films. Moreover when the WWII generation cursed, they didn't use obscenities, they swore using profanities or vulgarisims. My dad, a USN veteran who knew all the words, would have knocked me into next week if I had said f--k to anyone within earshot. To this day, I won't tolerate rough langauge in front of my wife.

Went to a ball game last summer, and a bunch of us had little children with us. That didn't stop the local drunks from swearing up a storm right in front of us. How pathetic.

It isn't just swearing, either. The other day in the locker room at the local gym, I had the "pleasure" of hearing two 20-something guys brag about their sexual conquests in loud voices, omitting no details. Nice, huh?

We have lost the sense of self-control many of us used to possess. As our society has become coarser, the language has become rougher.
Not surprisingly, people neglect to use manners, too.

It's all about me, seems to be the message. The other person and their sensibilities don't seem to enter into things now. That's very sad.


George
You F**KING rock, man!

Profanity is WAY too common today!
I grew up in 1960s Alaska, where the male-female ratio was 4 to 1 and most of the men were construction workers, not businessmen or preachers. There was a lot of cussing going on. Occasionally one of my parents would get angry enough to indulge in it themselves, but rarely around me or other children. Dad always said that it was a sign of an undeveloped vocabulary if you couldn't think of a way to express yourself without using filthy language. He admitted that somethings made him so angry he couldn't think and he apologized for that.

I think he'd be shocked with the profanity today. Swear words in his day were signs you were angry or stressed, but today, most people, use swear words like adjectives. That's a f***ing great car, dude!" They can't come up with another word????

The other day at the convenience store, the cashier told a customer that the "crackers and s*** are on aisle four." Mind you, this was in the process of her job. My teenager asked to speak to her manager and once on the phone told him she didn't appreciate his employees teaching her little brother dirty language. That cashier usually works on Sundays and she wasn't there today, so I'm hoping her manager docked her some work time and pay to teach her a lesson about appropriate public conduct.

And, no, it has no business on broadcast TV! I AM a writer and I can tell you that good writers don't need to use those words to communicate and can, in fact, communicate far more precisely and elegantly without the swear words.

Repeating Dad, the merchant marine and road camp cook -- "swearing is a sign of an undeveloped vocabulary. Intelligent people should be able to communicate without it."
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