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Wednesday, October 10, 2007
Brent Bozell :: Townhall.com Columnist
Rush Limbaugh, Vindicated
by Brent Bozell
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The ruckus over the Rush Limbaugh "phony soldiers" statement is dying down. It ought not to. There is a huge story here.

What did Rush say? In a Sept. 26 conversation with a caller to his program who claimed the media never interview "real soldiers," but just people out of the blue, Rush added for emphasis, "the phony soldiers."

The left saw its opportunity and pounced with a vengeance. Led by the George Soros-funded and Hillary Clinton-inspired Media Matters outfit, it unleashed a scorched-earth attack on Limbaugh for insulting the military, stating that any servicemen or women who might oppose the war in Iraq had been defamed by the talk show host as "phony soldiers."

The television networks, newspapers and leftist blog sites were ablaze with stories about Democratic outrage. There were calls for his show to be yanked from the Armed Forces Radio Network. There were demands that Clear Channel make Rush apologize and that advertisers pull their sponsorship.

Presidential candidates denounced him. Congressional leaders -- the usual crowd of Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Tom Harkin, John Kerry, etc. -- denounced him. A formal congressional resolution condemning Limbaugh was drawn up by Rep. Mark Udall, D-Colo., and reportedly had over 100 Democrat (and one Republican) signers. The message was clear: Limbaugh's anti-military insult could not, and would not, be tolerated.

How disingenuous was this leftist attack on Limbaugh? Let us count the ways.

Before reviewing the facts of the case, one has to shake his head in disbelief that anyone would accuse Limbaugh of an anti-military bias. A day doesn't go by when he isn't praising our military on his radio program. He's visited the troops on the battlefield in Afghanistan and brought comfort to our wounded at the Walter Reed Army hospital. He's raised and donated millions to military charities. It is no wonder that he is the single most popular personality on the Armed Forces Radio Network.

Less than two minutes after uttering the words "phony soldiers," Limbaugh elaborated on the subject, explaining exactly what he meant by the term. He named one Jesse Macbeth as an example of a phony soldier. Macbeth had become an overnight darling of the far left, a self-described Iraq war veteran and Purple Heart recipient who posted a YouTube video denouncing American military atrocities he'd witnessed.

Except he was never awarded a Purple Heart. He was never in Iraq. In fact, he was never in the military, period. He was tossed out of boot camp after four months. Macbeth is now in prison serving a five-month term for falsifying Army records and applying falsely for veterans' benefits. Limbaugh was right.

Limbaugh also pointed out that he wasn't the first to discuss the Macbeth phony soldier story. Brian Ross had filed a report on this man several nights before, on ABC's "World News." Ross even used the term "phony soldier" -- and not a soul on the left found fault with that.

So the left returned with another charge: Limbaugh had used the plural, "phony soldiers," therefore Limbaugh's sole example -- Macbeth -- was inadequate. So are there any other "phony soldiers" out there? Jeffrey Sullivan, the U.S. attorney for the Western District of Washington, thinks so. Besides prosecuting Macbeth, he's prosecuted another five "phony soldiers." Jim O'Neill, the assistant inspector general for investigations at the Veterans Administration, confirms that the federal government is presently conducting another 60 such "stolen valor" cases. Rush was right, in spades.

The left knows Rush was correct, yet, just as with the spurious racist accusations against Bill O'Reilly the week before, the attacks continued for days, unabated. This is no accident, and no coincidence. Yesterday, it was MoveOn. Today, it's Media Matters. This is the far left at its repugnant worst, perfectly content to destroy a man's reputation through dishonest attacks if it will further its agenda. Josef Stalin would be proud of this movement.

Rush has beaten them all back now. In fact, as with the Petraeus/"Betray Us" attacks by MoveOn, this newest round of attempted character assassination backfired and did nothing but re-energize conservatives.

But this won't stop the left. Tomorrow it will be Sean Hannity, or Mark Levin, or maybe Laura Ingraham. This group plays for keeps.

And what of all those media outlets giving aid and comfort to the leftists who attacked Rush? Now that we know there are several dozen cases of "phony soldier" scandals, just as Rush suggested, how many stories have they devoted to them, thus vindicating Rush? Check for a Jesse Macbeth story in a Nexis database search on CBS, NBC and NPR. Search Time and Newsweek. Look up The Washington Post, The New York Times and USA Today.

You won't find a one.

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ridiculous
less than 2 minutes later--that is an eternity in radio.

real veterans were offended and that is all that matters, inclluding general batiste.

http://www.vetvotes.org

ridiculous
less than 2 minutes later--that is an eternity in radio.

real veterans were offended and that is all that matters, inclluding general batiste.

http://www.votevets.org

Brent is right.
The Democrats know that they are liars. They know that not one of then can even come close to matching Rush's support of the troops. They also know that there are lots of nitwits out there who just can't wait to jump on the bandwagon and become outraged over something that never happened.


Just wath the TH germs who jump on this thread. The usual suspects will be spouting the usual drivel. Harry Reid, Pelosi, Harkin, all know that there are brain washed fools who will eagerly begin to parrot the lies. They will also vote the Democratic ticket. That is just politics in the twenty-first century.

Sen. Harkin showed the true colors of
... the Democratic party when he insulted Rush by saying he must have been on drugs. If any line was crossed that day, this was one of them. A comment like that should be beneath the behavior of a senator. Lead by example. And how about the irony of Sen. Harkin calling out Rush about phony soldiers when he had to retrack statements about his own military service!?

I also seem to remember someone on the left wishing Rush would not regain his hearing. Real compassion there. Finally, when Republican senators showed up at Paul Wellstone's funeral they were booed! What class!


I disagree
Mr. Bozell states that Rush beat them back. Those people paying attention knew and know the truth, but so what? The poison spread by the esteemed senator was spread among the Rush haters and the brain dead as well as those among us who don't care to look into things.

Our opinions or beliefs cannot hold a candle to the commie big lie.

Take a poll and discover how many Americans think that someone named Rush said something bad about the soldiers and was called on it by the good people as reported on the TV, or something like that, I think, maybe, yeah sure, something happened and what do you expect from a mean coservative, he's an old white guy, right?

Get this outrageous crap
"real veterans were offended and that is all that matters, inclluding general batiste."

Or rather, 'It's fake but true', or 'it might have been true', or perhaps, 'so what if its not true - it sounds true'. Were you referring to some of those 'phony soldier' vets?

When all else fails, the test is 'someone was offended'. By that standard, most of the dems have clearly and repeatedly offended the overwhelming majority of the troops in Iraq.

ReligiousLib - we realize facts, logic and truth don't mean the slightest whit to you types, but for a nutroot stupe, it's simply laughable to pose as concerned for the feelings of 'real vets' which you would know nothing about.

Once again, the left can't win
based on the substance, so they have to go after the person. Don't I seem to remember when Clinton was sexually harassing an intern, that some of these same clowns were saying that "character doesn't matter?"

Funny how things turn around.

Now we have left wing Congressman Henry Waxman, chairman of the Oversight committee monitoring the broadcasts of Limbaugh, Hannity and other conservatives. Hitler, Hussein, Amadinijad, Tito, Stalin, Castro, Kim, Pol Pot and other dictators would be proud.

Once again, the left can't stand up to the logical arguments, so they resort to political terrorism.

To religiouslib
I, too, was not offended. Does that make me 'no true veteran'?

V/R
SSG Anderson
36th Engineer Brigade
Bagram AFB

(OIF1 - 2003, OIF3 - 2005, OEF - currently deployed)

silicondoc
The media gets away with its bias because most Americans are too ignorant of their own government and of current events to know any better.

They watch the Nitwitness news for their daily dose of inane banter with Heidi and Chip, traffic with Ross in SkyCam 5 and the endless parade of traffic accidents, sports scores, medical advice from Dr. Malika and finally the forecast from Debbie the weather babe. Pretty heavy stuff.

Then on to Perky Katie who we all know is a serious, hard-nosed unbiased journalist without any agenda.

Or tragically, they don't watch any news at all or read any newspapers.

The fact is that most Americans couldn't tell you who the Senate majority leader is, couldn't name the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court or couldn't tell you the significance of June 6th.

In fact, most Americans are intellectually lazy louts who're more concerned about their local sports teams than what's going on in the world.

Bob
Sadly, you are right as rain. Its a wonder we've made it this far, but then again, right up until the 60's, the MSM was part of the solution. Movies praised and supported the basic attitudes of Americans. The good guys won, Judeo/Christian values were taken for granted, Mom and Pop knew what they were doing. Politicians got elected by being patriotic. The hippies and Viet Nam somehow changed all that. A counter culture, an anti-American counter culture, sprang up and is used to rationalize a selfish short-sighted attitude towards the responsibilities of being a US citizen. All cultures are under continuous pressure. If they are unable or refuse to defend themself, they are supplanted. Ask Native Americans.

Relgiouslib
I am also a vet, MM1SS Belt USN, and I'm also not offended by Mr Limbaugh. I AM offended by you and your ilk that take it upon yourselves to speak for all the military and vets in the country. Did you even serve? You best put that crap on sale because no ones buying it.

You just don't get it
Brent, Rush, Bill, Shawn etc, engage in the exact same political rhetoric that they are railing against except they do if from a right wing perspective. This reminds me of a couple of old sayings, People in Glass houses should not throw stones, and If you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen. Wha Wha Wha

Mind numbing stupidity...
As if they weren't stupid enough already, the moonbats decide to go after the smartest guy in the business. Not only is he smarter than the collective intellect of the moonbat nation, he has an audience of 8million people who tune-in to hear him (not the nutroots). If that wasn't dumb enough, there's audio/video evidence that their attack was phoney.

Finally, in order to remove any doubt of their stupidity, they organize vetvotes.org (an organization of liberal former military) to denounce Rush. Yea, everyone's buying into that.

I hope that they continue with their lunatic attacks on conservatives. Voters are watching.

So Chains...
Was it ok to lie about the comments? It clearly was a lie. As for you playground snappy come-back that basically translates to "but he does it," document that claim. Slam Rush if need be, but document it.

tr
Must be nice to sit at home and deliver a gutless attack against your betters who are either currently deployed (or are veterans) who have ensured (like millions of others through the centuries that this country has existed) that you have the right to behave like the yellow cur that you are.


Amen to CFUSMC
I'm not sure what tr's tirade was meant to accomplish.

To religiouslib re 12:08 and 12:09 posts
You don't know anyone in uniform. If you did, you would know that our military guys appreciate Rush Limbaugh for his continuing, unwavering support of them. Our military guys and vets were not offended by the deceitful effort to smear Rush who was obviously referring to Jesse MacBeth types in his comments. Your citation to a left wing web site attempting to be a supposed voice for disaffected veterans that is in fact speaking for next to no one doesn't help you.

You have wanted to believe the smear of Rush because, quite frankly, you aren't really religious. A truly religious person finds the kind of deceit that was involved in the left wing attack on Rush to be immoral. You should change your moniker to "deceitfullib."

to Treason
...or from the anonymity of the internet. You foolish coward.

Greg
I read the transcript of the program and Rush does indeed refer to blue soldiers as phony soldiers, Blue of course representing Democrats, enough said!

tr
Exactly how much have YOU contributed to military relief organizations? How often have you visited Walter Reed or any other one of the multitude of military hospitals or VA hospitals in this country? I would venture a guess that the answer is zero, zip, nada to both questions.

Rush on the other hand, has helped to raise as well as personally given MILLIONS to military relief and support programs. He has visited Afganistan and toured the bases there. He volunteered to go. He has visited the amputee ward at Walter Reed to offer his thanks as well as uplift those that are there. He has given to Fischer House. He states often that he is humbled and grateful to the American men and women who wear the uniform and truly supports them no matter what their political mindset.

Am I at all surprised that he rightfully called a spade a spade when a proven fake and liar, a "phony soldier" was caught telling lies and denigrating the military and was held up as a paragon of the left? I would have been surprised if he hadn't done it.

What exactly have you done to support the American military?

To treasonous republicans
"you're all phony soldiers."

I'm sorry, I couldn't quite make that out. Send it to my email account and I'll take another look.

james.edward.anderson@us.army.mil

chains
I'm getting awfully tired of this. You're a liar. No and's, if's or but's about it. You aren't ill informed, you aren't ignorant, you're just a liar. No possible way you could have read the transcript and come away with that conclusion without having made up your mind first and most importantly, like Dan Rather and the fake National Guard forged documents, you want it to be true. Evidence to the contrary, transcripts and video notwithstanding, you still make the absurd claim that Rush said something that he clearly did not say.

The truth doesn't matter to you just like with the the wannabe commander's-in-chief in congress who flirted with the unconstitutional idea of censuring or passing a resolution condemning a private citizen.

If the truth physically slapped you in the face you'd never know what hit you.

particularly funny
What I found particularly funny is Bozell's accusation that Congressional leaders could somehow destroy Rush's reputation.

ha ha.

If you are a conservative you like Rush.

If you are a liberal you do not like Rush.

How can a liberal destroy Rush's reputation in the eyes of any conservative?

Liberals already do not like him.

The truth is this.

The truth is that the Congressional leaders added to Rush's reputation. There is not such thing as bad publicity in this and I'm sure more than a few new people tuned into Rush to hear for themselves who this guy is.

Rush should be thanking them for all the free publicity if anything.

Rush does everything in his humanly power to destroy and alienate his enemies, liberals.

That his enemies respond in like fashion is only to be expected.

You make me laugh Bozell.

chains
You said "You just don't get it
Brent, Rush, Bill, Shawn etc, engage in the exact same political rhetoric that they are railing against except they do if from a right wing perspective. This reminds me of a couple of old sayings, People in Glass houses should not throw stones,"
This frosts my a$$.
You wouldn't care to show any examples of the aforementioned taking a liberals words out of context and demanding an apology, would you?

Brent LMAO
"The left knows Rush was correct, yet, just as with the spurious racist accusations against Bill O'Reilly the week before, the attacks continued for days, unabated. This is no accident, and no coincidence. Yesterday, it was MoveOn. Today, it's Media Matters. This is the far left at its repugnant worst, perfectly content to destroy a man's reputation through dishonest attacks if it will further its agenda. Josef Stalin would be proud of this movement. "

The Rush smear machine works away attacking soldiers and their records day in day out and you say this??? LOL Let's see" Batiste, Clark, Cleland, Hackett, Murphy, Kerry shall I go on and on... Your comments are spot on about Stalin you just had the wrong movement. It is you failed fundamentalist copnservatives who have hurt this country and our military so much

To chains
"I read the transcript of the program and Rush does indeed refer to blue soldiers as phony soldiers, Blue of course representing Democrats, enough said!"

The actual transcript, as reported and quoted in MANY place on the Net, said:

CALLER 2: No, it's not, and what's really funny is, they never talk to real soldiers. They like to pull these soldiers that come up out of the blue and talk to the media.
LIMBAUGH: The phony soldiers.
CALLER 2: The phony soldiers. If you talk to a real soldier, they are proud to serve. They want to be over in Iraq. They understand their sacrifice, and they're willing to sacrifice for their country.

'Soldiers that come out of the blue' is not the same as 'blue soldiers'.
'Out of the blue' is a phrase which means 'out of nowhere'. A good example is Jesse McBeth, who appeared with faked VA and discharge documents (hence 'out of nowhere' or 'out of the blue').


Misrepresenting facts is not nice. Nor is misquoting.

To treasonous republicans
Afraid to face the facts and have your pet idea ground to dust. Just like so many of your thoughtless and ideologically-blinded ilk.

To treasonous republicans
I'm on my AKO webmail *at this moment*. Have the guts to shoot me an email.

treasonous republicans
It is quite apparent that you are physically challenged in the hearing dept.
Rush spoke about the "phony soldiers" story the preceeding day. He further clarified his statement by mentioning, by name, at least 1 of the phony soldiers. He has also statd that there had been several more morons who you lefty cooks put on a soapbox.
It can't be more clear. You must be out to annoy clear minded people. I must congratulate you, I haven't found many people who were able to stretch that particular meaning out of Rush's words. Stop stretching and listen!

Treason
1) It's a volunteer military.

2) Truth isn't reserved for only those who experience it.

TR
You're double afflicted with rampant BDS and a deeply impacted HUA.

treasonous republican
You said :
- oh say, a few weeks ago with the general betray us thing. the ad asked if he would betray us. the right wing propoganda said the ad claimed he would.
The right wing said the add was a preemptive , disgusting attempt to besmirch a general who, I might add, democratic leaders praised months prior. This praise came before his report. A report, the outcome of which, they didn't like.
You still didn't show me where the "right wing" made a statement saying the ad claimed he would betray us.

OPM
Other People's Money.

Stop by my blog to see how the liberals having plans to spend YOUR money for the stupid and lazy (core liberal voters) in our society.


To Fred
If truth is on the side of the phony warriors... why do they feel the need to lie?

Jesse MacBeth had to lyingly *invent* war crimes.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2003895483_ webmacbeth21m.html

By the bye, what kind of *dolts* believe someone who claims to have massacred over 200 people --some in a mosque -- without the matter ever receiving media attention?

On credulity
The level of credulity displayed by people who avidly absorb the most obviously-manufactured lies about Iraq is unsettling. Many of these are educated people!


Jerry Springer
It's just entertainment, and if you ..listen.. to Rush that is all he says he is doing, entertainment.

Years ago it came out that much of the fighting that broke out on the Springer Show was paid acting.

Guess what? Who cares? It's just entertainment.

Years ago it also came out that talk radio also uses paid actors for calling in.

Do you care? Does anybody care? Everyone does it, left and right.

It doesn't matter because it is just entertainment. Entertainment is fiction.

Ask Rush if any of his callers have ever been phony callers and he will most definitely say, "not to my knowledge" because he's not told. He needs the deniability. Then ask him if he is aware that phony callers exist in talk radio. When he says yes he's telling you that with the largest talk show in America, he's had phony callers.

Rush Limbaugh is Jerry Springer to the majority of Americans who never listen to him. 20 million is smaller than the state of California.

It's just entertainment. There is fiction and illusion at work. Rush Limbaugh is just Jerry Springer and if you call him on it, and listen to what he says, he will tell you he is in the entertainment busy and he's an entertainer.


Tallil2long
I'm a retired military veteran who wasn't offended by Rush's statement. But then again, I wasn't offended by the General "Betray us" ad either.

What's obvious, even using the transcript of your 08:00 a. m. post, is that Rush was disparaging legitimate soldiers that question this war. Rush and the caller were discussing their disdain with Americans who supported a withdrawal from the war in Iraq. These are the people the caller was referring to when he said "they" never talk to real soldiers.

Now, why would Limbaugh immediately think of Jesse Macbeth to support the caller's claim (never mind using the plural of soldier when talking about one soldier)? Why wouldn't he think of Wesley Clark, Paul Hackett, Max Cleland, Chuck Hagel, or other military members who eloquently articulate opposition to this war? The answer's simple. He was marginalizing veterans that disagree with this war.

And finally, if Limbaugh is supportive of all soldiers, regardless of their political views, then why didn't he chastise the caller over his definition of a "real soldier"? If you don't think we should be in Iraq, but serve anyway because of your military obligation, are you not a "real soldier"? By not challenging the caller, Rush encouraged (and supported) the hatchett job he did on the honorable military personnel that disagree with this war.

P. S. What reputable news medium used Jesse Macbeth as a source anyway.

Tallil2long
They're just redoing an old liberal trick. Hanoi John (I threw someone else's medala) and his fellow liar Al Hubbard (I was a Capt and a pilot in the USAF) were exposed as phonies.

http://www.nationalreview.com/flashback/overend200404230901 .asp

Hmm. Someone faking being a pilot. Reminds me of Robert Robert.

and what about
Rush comparing a "real" soldier to a suicide bomber? Yeah wounded, put back together and now some rightwing talk phony compares him to a suicide bomber. That is the real Rush.

TR

Calling someone something does not make them that.
You said "usmc talil2long thasic
you're all phony soldiers "

I could say you are a real ignorant troll, but that would not make you one, unless you were.



As my grandma said

Throw a rock into a pack of dogs and the one that yelps the loudest is the one you hit

TR: telp , yelp, yelp

I've got it
There's a retired LTC who has no f-ing clue about how to interpret the meaning of Phony. He just closes his eyes to squeeze out the words that would make somethig a fact...Funny, all the people he named must be the VoteVets advisors or philanthropists. Sir, I regret to inform that you suffer a deep psychological problem. La-la-land Syndrome: Often defined as reading or interpreting the facts as "I" would like them to be in "my" world. It's such a shame it turns people into sheeple.

Hal
"and what about Rush comparing a "real" soldier to a suicide bomber?"

Hal, you should be a gymnast! You sure show a lot of flexibility - especially of the moral variety - and with this latest quote, you show us just how capable you are of a truly impressive

STREEEEEEEETCH!

I heard the quote you are referring to. You Leftists never cease to amaze me. What Rush said had absolutely nothing to do with suicide bombers. How is it you can look at yourself in the mirror, after parading such blatant, ridiculous falsehoods as this one?

To Hang-tyme
"Now, why would Limbaugh immediately think of Jesse Macbeth to support the caller's claim (never mind using the plural of soldier when talking about one soldier)? Why wouldn't he think of Wesley Clark, Paul Hackett, Max Cleland, Chuck Hagel, or other military members who eloquently articulate opposition to this war? The answer's simple. He was marginalizing veterans that disagree with this war."

Perhaps Limbaugh used MacBeth as the example because he was talking about people who lie regarding their military service in order to further their anti-war aims.
MacBeth perfectly fit the category of 'phony soldier' as Limbaugh meant it, so that is who he used.

The example he chose actually lends credence to Limbaugh's claim that he was NOT referring to any and all soldiers who oppose the war. He said 'This is the kind of people I was referring to' and used an example that perfectly fit his claim.


Miscalculation...
I too think that the Move-on-Dot Dems miscalculated, thinking that this idiotic charge that Rush insulted the troops would detract from their own implied or genuine attacks on General Petraus's integrity.

The same people that were outraged by Moveon's ad in the NY Times, have been outraged by the Left's inane attack on Rush. Those who hate Rush do not hate him anymore because of this false accusation -- and those who care more about American Idol than about politics (alas, a great majority) are still as clueless as before. So all the Move-On-Dot-Dems succeeded in doing is to confirm that they are "Chavez-istas," launching a serious attack on free speech in this country, and they have given conservatives additional amunition (something they seem reluctant to provide the military with!)

Yeah this helps
ditto heads exposed:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/10/10/23558/499

Anykind of attention for showmen
Rush could not have not purchased better attention to his show. He used it for days. We can expect this kind of junk politics for the next year as the election looms. Clear thinkers may know who Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Waxman, Boxer, Kennedy, and all the looney left are and what they will do. You can ask 100 people on the street who they are and most wont have a clue. We have become so politically ignorant in this country that we either dont vote, or we vote for a person on looks, color, or if they are going to give me $5,000.00 for having a baby.(which is a lie) Imagine a government with Pelosi, and Reid heading up the congress, 2 new Ruth B. Ginsburgs on the high court, and Hillary in the White house. THe end of America as we know it.

Hal posts
a daily kos link!

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/10/10/23558/499

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!

Yeah, real credible non-biased reporting there.

FergusMacLennan
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/hal-donahue/limbaugh-compares -wounded_b_67028.html

Judge for yourself and even go get the entire quote. Yes he did. But that is so Rush,,,

GunnyG
Ah, another day of degradation. The limp-d's are always with us!!

Col. DOUG

The transcripts bear out
the group Rush was speaking about. If you've perceived that he was speaking about any military man or woman disagreeing with him the chances are you just didn't read the whole thing. Honest mistakes happen. If you read the whole thing and still hold to that position, I believe you are being willfully ignorant. I believe you are only concerned with seeing that which will support an already predetermined point of view and hang all the rest. Tell me where I'm wrong. I read transcript, I watched the video, I watched the ABC report. Work with me here.

Ron
Hitlary recycled an old george mcgovern idea on the baby payoff. mcgovern offered a 1000.00 of our own money for having kids in 72 but no one was buying then. She merely adjusted for inflation and whammy! 5G's.

Liberals don't HAVE new ideas, they just recycle the same old dreck.

Now Hitlary wants a 401K for everyone (I already HAVE ONE Hitlary, thanks anyway), that also gives us our own money back. How nice.

GunnyG
You bet it is e-mail to a "real" soldier from Limbaugh listeners. Shows how so many of them are like you GunnyG, my favorite mercenary.

Driveby, if it is all entertainment, why
did the Dem leadership have to lie like the dogs they are to demonize Rush? Are you saying that Congress is all entertainment too? I would argue longer, but I know it is no use using facts to debate your feelings.

Treasonous R, you are the traitor by actively seeking to defeat our armed forces in a "legal" war.

How about
How about the vets that came before now? Do we get a vote? Rush has said things I do not agree with, but to say he is against the military is like saying white flag reed or big mouth Murtha is for the military! Did you also know how many active duty personnel call his show and talk to him? A LOT so you leftist can whine and cry all you want, and take whatever you want to out of context, it just does not matter. The vast majority of active, retired and even us “old vets” knew what he was talking about. I think they are a bunch of phonies too!

HUNTER 2008!
http://www.gohunter08.com

Macbeth
I was also wounded at the battle of waterloo! The ball passed through my coat and hit my hand!

Hal--I read your link
Do I have to explain the quote to you? You can't truthfully have a beef with that quote. That's just silly. Where did you go to school?

The real Rush scares the left silly
He is on 15 hours a week with/plus updates. That's more time than all NBC's, ABC's, and CBS's nightly news 1/2 hours from Mon.-Fri.

Rush has 20-30 million dedicated listeners who can be mobilized. The defeat of the so-called immigration bill last summer was helped by many sources, but Limbaugh's dittoheads were a major factor.

Rush is funny. Libs. have lost the ability to produce humor. A look at Letterman and his constant jokeless Bush attacks shows what a man with enormous talent can do to himself when he becomes just another boring propagandist.

No one thought this nitwit assault on Rush would work, but Media Matters and movelong.littledoggies and the Daily Krap will be looking for the next hit.

Waxman has said he's starting an investigation. What is he investigating? Neither Rush nor Hannity not any other cons. host uses the 7 FCC prohibited words, unlike over-sexed libersls, none lasciviously and pornographically describe aberrant sex acts on their broadcasts, and their political positions are protected by the Frist Amendment--even if they say things that are unpopulat or outright stupid.

So, what is Waxman looking for?

Rich L.
"Driveby, if it is all entertainment, why
did the Dem leadership have to lie like the dogs they are to demonize Rush? Are you saying that Congress is all entertainment too? I would argue longer, but I know it is no use using facts to debate your feelings. "

They did not lie and Rush has demonised enough soldiers and veterans. It was an exposure and I thank them for it. Won't change the ditto idiots but will help to get other listeners to open their minds

To Hal Donahue
False. From your own link:

"He discusses his service in Iraq, the wounds he suffered there, and he says to me in this ad, "Until you have the guts to call me a 'phony soldier' to my face, stop telling lies about my service." You know, this is such a blatant use of a valiant combat veteran, lying to him about what I said, then strapping those lies to his belt, sending him out via the media in a TV ad to walk into as many people as he can walk into."

The comparison is between those who misrepresented Limbaugh's remarks (as so many are trying to do here on this board) and the lying, cynical handlers or recruiters of suicide bombers.

Unless you want to provide another quote.

Thank you libs
You guys probably got more fence sitters to listen to Rush in the last two weeks that anything we on the right could have done. I wonder how many of them have become conservatives because of your lying, conniving, and baseless attacks against Rush. You guys are the biggest asset that the conservative right has. thanks a bunch guys.

General Betray Us ad
Here is the text from the Betray Us ad:

GENERAL BETRAY US?
Paid for by Moveon.org Political Action, political.moveon.org, not authorized by any candidate or candidate’s committee.
General Petraeus is a military man constantly at war with the facts. In 2004, just before the election, he said there
was “tangible progress” in Iraq and that “Iraqi leaders are stepping forward.” And last week Petraeus, the architect
of the escalation of troops in Iraq, said, “We say we have achieved progress, and we are obviously going to do
everything we can to build on that progress.”
Every independent report on the ground situation in Iraq shows that the surge strategy has failed. Yet the General
claims a reduction in violence. That’s because, according to the New York Times, the Pentagon has adopted a bizarre
formula for keeping tabs on violence. For example, deaths by car bombs don’t count. The Washington Post reported
that assassinations only count if you’re shot in the back of the head — not the front. According to the Associated
Press, there have been more civilian deaths and more American soldier deaths in the past three months than in any
other summer we’ve been there. We’ll hear of neighborhoods where violence has decreased. But we won’t hear that
those neighborhoods have been ethnically cleansed.
Most importantly, General Petraeus will not admit what everyone knows: Iraq is mired in an unwinnable religious
civil war. We may hear of a plan to withdraw a few thousand American troops. But we won’t hear what Americans are
desperate to hear: a timetable for withdrawing all our troops. General Petraeus has actually said American troops
will need to stay in Iraq for as long as ten years.
Today, before Congress and before the American people, General Petraeus is likely to become General Betray Us.

For Hal
"A repeat drunk driver is like a serial murderer".

Did I compare a drunk driver's Chrysler LeBaron to a butcher knife?

Tallil2long
Soldiers padding their military resume by lying was never discussed during the exchange between Rush and the caller. Immediately proceeding the quotes you posted at 08:00 a.m., Rush was expressing disdain with Americans calling for a troop withdrawal. I'm sure you know this, but I can post the transcript if you wish. In my opinion, Rush was clearly referring to veterans that oppose this war as phony soldiers.

And once again, if this wasn't the case, why didn't Rush challenge the caller when he stated that "real soldiers" want to be in Iraq? IMHO, if you're sacrificing (or have sacrificed) for your country by wearing the uniform, YOU'RE A REAL SOLDIER, regardless of whether you agree with the Iraqi quagmire.

P. S. What do you think of Rush's contention that you can't be a republican and oppose this war.


Doc
"Rush has said things I do not agree with, but to say he is against the military is like saying white flag reed or big mouth Murtha is for the military!"

Yes that is true. Rush has done nothing for the military except support a regime that is disarming the country. Our military is not ready for another emergency and what is being done? Oh I know we are shopping. Yellow ribbons anyone?

"Did you also know how many active duty personnel call his show and talk to him?"

Actually neither do you. I do know that at least one phony soldier called in claiming to be a fighter pilot supporting the war but screwed that up so badly even Rush had to admit it. Any idea how many calls are faked?

"A LOT so you leftist can whine and cry all you want, and take whatever you want to out of context, it just does not matter. The vast majority of active, retired and even us “old vets” knew what he was talking about. I think they are a bunch of phonies too! "

Simply not true. Do you have any data to support that?

Hal
You really need to work on your reading comprehension skills. I said I *heard* the quote - as in, I was listening that day. I HEARD IT. I heard what Rush said, I heard what his caller said, I heard the entire context.

And it is a disgusting, manufactured stretch to claim that he was comparing soldiers to suicide bombers.

But you are a Leftist, so "disgusting", "manufactured", and all the rest are pretty much your stock-in-trade.

CORRECT mollie
CORRECT or you would be if moveon.duh had any shame, but they don’t. They do not care if the “sane” people know they spout lies and smear people. If they had another chance to smear the General they would do it again. Fact is moveon. Duh requires the willing suspension of belief in almost every thing they say or do. The left is like the magician that wants you to concentrate on the right hand so you do not see what the left hand is doing!

HUNTER 2008!
http://www.gohunter08.com

HaL:
Dang I thought we had them fooled this time!
roberta roberta: yeah us too Hal

Doug
Ignore them like you would the rude children belonging to someone else. Eventually they'll go away and bother someone else who will respond to their sh*t.

Check out the awesmoe poster of Hitlary I posted on my blog! I'm thinking about having it commercially reproduced and handed out at her rallies by VRWC operatives!

To Hang-tyme
"Soldiers padding their military resume by lying was never discussed during the exchange between Rush and the caller."

Which is why Limbaugh provided an example to indicate the sort of soldier of whom he was speaking.
Nice try, though.

By all means, post the full transcript. It makes no difference: when I make a statement, then provide an illustration or example, I have clarified my meaning. That is what Limbaugh did.

"What do you think of Rush's contention that you can't be a republican and oppose this war."

I think, scratch that, I *know* it's idiotic.

Hal Donahue
why yes I got the facts from MM!

HUNTER 2008!
http://www.gohunter08.com

HaL:
I was wounded in the battle of TH!

To hang-tyme
Perhaps you mistook me for someone who likes Rush Limbaugh. I do not. Howver, I possess the self-discipline to dislike someone while still regarding their statements objectively. Many people who dislike Rush Limbaugh are unable to do this, and feel compelled to misrepresent even the defensible or legitimate statements he makes.

For example, by pretending that he did not provide clarification of his meaning by selecting one particular example, to the exclusion of others.

Hey GunnyG is it....
the one of Aunt Hillery all dressed up as Uncle Sam saying "I want your guns"?

Top o the mornin to ya!

eastlake joe
You've brought up a great point. I wonder how Americans are begining to see through the smoke screen coming out of Land Deal Reid's anal/oral orifice on how the libs hate free speech and our basic American freedoms.

Rush is gonna beat this drum over and over all the way to election time.

I myself hope that he investigates Nostrils Waxman and publicizes the results, God knows I would.

Turnabout is fair play.

Tallil2long
Yes, Limbaugh did provide an example, ALMOST 2 MINUTES LATER. Limbaugh may be a loud mouth propagandist, but he's one the smartest people you'll ever see. After reflecting on the exchange, there's no doubt in my mind he realized damage control was in order. In this case, damage control answered to the name of Jesse Macbeth.

I'll no longer badger you concerning why Rush didn't chastise the caller based on his definition of a "real soldier". I realize that's hard to defend (or spin).

Stay safe in Iraq. My prayers are with you.

Hal's hero
Jesse MacBeth, an anti-war activist who claimed to have witnessed atrocities as a Purple Heart recipient in the Army Rangers.

MacBeth, however, never served in Iraq. He was expelled from the military after 44 days in uniform.

HAHAHAHAHAHHAAH! Hal's hero. Just like Hanoi John.

Did y'all catch this article on how Hanoi John sold out the POWs/MIAs for money?

http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0408,schanberg,51276,1.htm l

BTW, so-called veteran advocate Hal Donohue worked for Hanoi John's campaign! HAHAAHA!

Hal D

I got my wounds (hemmorroids) in the Battle of Robert Robert's bedroom.

The NYC Doggg scribbles:
ARF! ARF! ARF!ARF! ARF! ARF!ARF! ARF! ARF!ARF! ARF! ARF!ARF! ARF! ARF!ARF! ARF! ARF!ARF! ARF! ARF! I didn't come here to make any sense, just spout crap like ARF! ARF! ARF!ARF! ARF! ARF!

HUNTER 2008!
http://www.gohunter08.com

The NYC Doggg
I was wounded at the battle of the garbage can in the alley behind my building!

Farmer's Wife
Oh no, way better. Give it a scoping.

I have that one in my archives for usage around election time.

Worth repeating
Some of you may have seen this before, but I'll post it again, in the hopes that someone will actually address it.

I read the Bryon York article a few days ago, and I accept the argument that Rush was thinking of actual phoney soldiers like Jessie Macbeth when he said the phrase "phoney soldiers". It was the subject of the previous day's show, he made a point to bring it up right after that caller was done, it was on his mind.

But how does that let him off the hook? The caller said "They never talk to real soldiers," "they" presumably referring to Democrats, probably the media as well. So, according to the caller, anyone "they" talk to is not a real soldier. So the folks at votevets.org and the members of the 82nd Airborne that wrote that op-ed in the NYT, they're not real soldiers? "They" have talked to them, so they must not be real soldiers. Rush agreed, saying, "The phoney soldiers." So, either Rush truly believed that they were phoney soldiers, or he's just never heard of any soldier opposing the war, aside from fakes like Jesse Macbeth. So he's either exactly what Media Matters says he is, or he's an idiot. Which is it?

If he had said, "Like the phoney soldiers," or "The phoney soldiers, for example," this would be a non-issue. Media Matters might have run one article on it, but it would have had no legs, because it would have been obvious that Rush wasn't painting all dissenters with the "phoney" label. Despite what Mr. Bozell says, it is not obvious here.

Hey NYC Doggg
Got it, all have sinned and come short of the glory of God. If you will only listen one who is perfect in all things I can certainly understand that. So what do you think of Jesus Christ, who is he--what saith thou?

Doc
LOL!

NYC Dogg got his battle wound when he hoisted his leg and p**d on an electric fence! Nailed his brain with high voltage.

See you're in rare form this early, rock on!

For HalD (who worked on Hanoi John's campaign)

Hanoi John Hanoi John
He's our man
If he can't sell
out the POW/MIA's,
no one can!

The NYC Doggg scribbles:
Is it POSSIBLE to destroy Rush Limbaugh's reputation - the guy who was axed from Sunday Football for racist comments?
Who is now on his THIRD wife.
Who was busted copping illegal drugs?
Who has been documented as a liar repeatedly?

THIS IS Proof positive that you do not need facts to be a left wing kook!
This is why I do not take TH serious and why I come here just for fun!

HUNTER 2008!
http://www.gohunter08.com

I’m having more fun in here today than The NYC Doggg at a topless code pink rally!








Tallil2long
Also, of course I think this whole thing is much ado about nothing. Kind of similiar to the Betray us ad. But I've read the whole transcript, and I guess we just come to different conclusions.

But even if he's sincere about his denial of denigrating anti-Iraq war troops, he's still disingenuous for insinuating that Jesse Macbeth is the face of the anti-war movement amongst military personnel.

Hal D

Ah yes , here are some of the brilliant posts from your link at Daily Kos, and no I don't approve of the obscenity laden posts either
"It's so easy a caveman could do it. I can just picture these guys typing out their rage one keystroke at a time with a single index finger.

The scary part about it though is that they probably all own extensive gun collections.


In their case, are you sure there's a difference? Though the question as to which would do a better job of feeding their sexual fantasies may be worth asking.

We can add them to jihadist and porn listservs."

Cut and pasted from the site.

NYC Dogg
Can you come up with anything original instead of cutting and pasting everything or is that to hard of a concept for you?

Doc
the mental image of the Code Pink rally made me almost lose my breakfast, oh well thanks for helping my diet.

sheweee GunnyG....
That one captures her TRUE character! I think we can use that image in our haunted house fund raiser for the local volunteer fire department. Maybe it would scare some voters into what is really going on!

If the Left said today was Wednesday..
If the liberal said today was Wednesday, I would check my calendar to make sure! I sure wish they all would take a long walk on a short pier. The country would be a better place if they did! No, actually I dream of them gaining a real understand of our Constitution along with finding honesty & integrity and doing the right things right! But, I fear it is only a dream! However, if we citizens and taxpayers exert our great powers through the vote and insistance that our elected leader be leaders, then we will be OK. It is entirely up to us to make this happen, because today's politicians will not!

I say it there, it comes out here
Only a Democrat is STUPID enough to think that DailyKOS.com, HuffingtonPost.com, MoveOn.org, Salon.com, and TheOnion.com constitute "reliable sources" of anything. I'm talking about you, Hal, you monumental moron!

Tallil2long
"The comparison is between those who misrepresented Limbaugh's remarks (as so many are trying to do here on this board) and the lying, cynical handlers or recruiters of suicide bombers."

"You know, this is such a blatant use of a valiant combat veteran, lying to him about what I said, then strapping those lies to his belt, sending him out via the media in a TV ad to walk into as many people as he can walk into."

I know Brian and he was honestly appalled that he was shown as either dumber than a box of rocks or a suicide bomber. Being pretty chewed up with shrapnel especially head Rush really did hit two nerves that hurt Brian mental capacity and bomber. I think you are being technical rather than considering the whole picture but I could be wrong

Whoops, forgot to mention
Look up Paul Hackett, and the comments Rush Limbaugh used to attack him, and that should tell all you need to know about what RL thinks of the military service of people who disagree with him.

Why must Rush and Reps. be perfect?
One of the themes here about Rush is that he's been married more than once, that he took pain killers, that he once said this or once said that, so he becomes a non paragon.

No one said he was a paragon or Superman to begin with.

He's a radio talk-show entertainment host. If yu do not listen to him and you cannot read the show in question's transscript with any degree of comprehension, then what are you posting for?

The left specializes in its politics of destruction by personally attacking people for not being somehow above human, while the left itself retreats into an "authenticity" of amorality--we don't even try to be moral or good so no one can call us hypocrites. Lovely logic.

Go back to the Daily Krap and blog there among like-minded oatmeal brains and be happy.

to Hang-tyme
"Yes, Limbaugh did provide an example, ALMOST 2 MINUTES LATER."

Well, two minutes is certainly a lifetime, isn't it? There ought to be a law -- if you don't follow up in two seconds, everything you say afterward doesn't count, forever.

"I'll no longer badger you concerning why Rush didn't chastise the caller based on his definition of a "real soldier". "

Why don't I defend Rush's drug use? Answer, because that is not the topic I'm interested in developing. Now, I know that Rush is supposed to chase every hare that any critic might later desire, the instant when it comes up on his show...

I thank you for your prayers, they are *very* much appreciated.




Trerasonrepub
ok y'all this TROLL treasonrepub is BANNED. No reason to respond to anything he/she/it writes. Just ignore he/she/it's exixtance. He/she/it is only here to attempt to aggravate the rest of the world. He/she/it hates themselves so much he/she/it shows up here for abuse. Justly deserved abuse. But,there are better things to talk to and/or about. Just IGNORE the pile of useless crap.

DOC!
"I’m having more fun in here today than The NYC Doggg at a topless code pink rally!"

YEECH! I'm going to chow in a few hours. Thanks for the visual of decrepit hippie pigs who haven't worn a bra in 50 years! RETCH!

Good one tho!

Robert Robert

Don't just nibble on it Hal.

TR

So nice to see you respond,

but you see the old stories have their basis is observation, see how often NYC Dogg is responding to the pebbles tossed in his direstion.


RE: NYCMongrel
Which isn't a fact?

"Rush was NOT axwed from football commentary due to his remarks about black QBs?"

He was axed because he was conservative. Were Jim Brown to have made the same remark, nothing would have happened. In fact, Jim Brown HAS made similar remarks, and note he's still doing his show.

"Rush was NOT busted for copping illegal drugs?"

The drugs were prescription pain killers he was prescribed for back pain following surgery, not "illegal drugs".

"Rush has NOT been documented as a liar?"

No. Left wing shils like you parse his every word, then take them out of context, misrepresent what he said, then pretend that constitutes him being a "liar". Heck, Al "The Dumbest Man In America" Franken wrote an entire how-to manual on doing just that.

"Rush has NOT been divorced THREE times?"

And??

Farmer's Wife
Use it. Anything to defeat The Hildabeast.

HalD

If I strain enough Robert Robert, can I get this jumper I've got stuck in the door out?

Robert Robert

If not, I'll get the shovel.

to Hal
"You know, this is such a blatant use of a valiant combat veteran, lying to him about what I said, then strapping those lies to his belt, sending him out via the media in a TV ad to walk into as many people as he can walk into."

Nope, still nothing there that compares the SOLDIER to a suicide bomber. The literal meaning of the words is clear: those who Rush believed to have lied to this soldier, are like the recruiters of suicide bombers. If one wanted to take the analogy beyond its stated limit, sure. However, that is a logical fallacy.

Look, I REALLY don't like being compared to inappropriate things (on HuffintonPost I've been compared to murderers, rapists, Nazis, SS and lots of other garbage). However, I don't feel the need to invent words that were never spoken in order to have something to be mad about.

You can believe me or not, as you choose, but I can't stand my fellows being spoken ill of without cause or justification. In my objective view, however, Rush did NOT speak ill of this soldier. He spoke ill of those whom he believed lied to and sought to use the soldier.

Does an implication that the soldier may have been used constitute an insult in and of itself? I've read quite a lot of military history, and some very good and very intelligent soldiers have been manipulated. Therefore, no I do not think the suggestion is an implicit insult.

Of course, the soldier in question has the obvious right to feel any way he does about the matter.

Tallil2long
"Why don't I defend Rush's drug use? Answer, because that is not the topic I'm interested in developing. Now, I know that Rush is supposed to chase every hare that any critic might later desire, the instant when it comes up on his show..."

GREAT ANSWER!

That shows the very essence of the liberal children I'm discussing in Part Three of the liberal/socialist on my blog.

The four core words of the lib/children.

I. WANT. IT. NOW!



Frey
Frey writes: "Look up Paul Hackett, and the comments Rush Limbaugh used to attack him, and that should tell all you need to know about what RL thinks of the military service of people who disagree with him".

Expounding on your point, Ann Coulter does the same thing on this very site with regularity. Pro war activist often confuse support for the ideology with support for the troops.

This is idiocy
Rush's respect for the men and women in the military is irrefutable, and anyone who would suggest otherwise in light of a 20 year track record has no credibility. He takes the position that this war is necessary - a lot of people do (as did many backpaddlers in our legislature). Fortunately, it is not yet a crime to have that opinion in this country.

There are people who are in the military because they want to serve their country, and there are people in the military for the benefits - one type joins to give, the other to take. Perhaps there is a distinction between real soldiers and phony ones.

UncleB
LoL took me like 10 min to figure that out and its true of most of the trolls that come here to post.

The NYC Doggg scribbles:
Doc: one of Rush's phony soldiers...

that’s just one more fact you got backwards, I have never been against the war, and from what you daily kooks have said, I would have to be a democrap and against the war. Call me a democrap again and I will have to sic my pet lawyer on you for slander, and we all knows who wins when a shark fights a dogg:P

HUNTER 2008!
http://www.gohunter08.com

NYC Doggg:
uncle george sor hols pays me in doggie biscuits!





GunnyG
"....HAHAHAHAHAHHAAH! Hal's hero. Just like Hanoi John."

never heard of the guy until Rush mentioned him

"BTW, so-called veteran advocate Hal Donohue worked for Hanoi John's campaign! HAHAAHA!"

Actually volunteered never took a dime. Also, worked for Casey, Carney, Murphy, Murtha, shall I go on

Proudly I add

An analogy on analogies
I knew a soldier who, during OIF3, cheated on his wife while deployed. I called him a dog.

Now, did I intend that his sister was a b!tch? After all, if the soldier is a dog, then his sister must be too. And the term for a female dog is...

Taking the analogy to that length, however, is foolish as it seeks to apply the analogy to a target for which it was not intended, in a manner in which it was not intended.

This is the problem with claiming that, by comparing some people who putatively manipulated a soldier with suicide-bomber recruiters, Rush also compared the soldier with a suicide bomber.

Of course, I'm sure Rush Limbaugh is SUCH a neocon genius that even his extempore speech is loaded with carefully-considered and perfectly-camoflageable criticisms...


Tallil2long
You beat them with the facts all you want to, but I got a fiver that says you won’t make them any wiser! Anyways, you beat them with facts and I’ll keep poking them with my humor stick to see if they are in fact brain dead like I believe!

HUNTER 2008!
http://www.gohunter08.com

HaL
Hurts so good, Come on , NYC Doggg make it hurt so good, sometimes love don’t feel like it should, baby make it... hurt so good


Unforseen consequence
of this attack was the "outing" of Hillary as being behind Media matters and other left wing smear groups. From now on when they launch similar talks on right wing talk shows, the public will question the origin and facts more closly.

Hal Donahue: you have just denigated yourself in my eyes by writing you campagined for Murtha and are proud of it.

Hal Donahue scribbles
Actually volunteered never took a dime. Also, worked for Casey, Carney, Murphy, Murtha, shall I go on Proudly I add

And what can we learn from this, kids? He worked proudly for loud mouth murtha, THE MOTHER OF ALL BAD MOUTHERS OF MARINES! Thanks Hal for pointing that out!

HUNTER 2008!
http://www.gohunter08.com

Roberta Roberta
Does this mean that you don’t love me when you say you do?
HaL
Come on you know I love you two, and love means never having to say your sorry, even if you do lie, we know that. Now get out in that kitchen, and rattle those pots and pans!

to GunnyG
You know, I'm amazed at the credit for superhuman intelligence that people give Limbaugh. I mean, he's talking on the fly amidst a virtual cloud of scarcely-literate-sounding sentence fragments, but he has the intellectual capacity to load every statement with carefully-camoflaged and deniable double-meanings. He's such a genius that he could recall and produce the name of soldiers who falsified their records, in five seconds or less if he really wanted too, but instead coldly calculated the length of time needed to withhold the data in order to imply a broadly-based insult while still maintaining a plausible fiction of specificity. When making analogies, he is able to anticipate the probably responses of critics and tune his analogy to be perfectly plausible while hinting strongly at criticism of soldiers. What a genius Rush Limbaugh must be!

But when they want him to be, he is a stupid, drug-using buffoon. Seems inconsistent.

MURTHA!
HalD has a nasty little habit of working for liars and scoundrels.

Kinda like using AF contacts to get business contracts after one retires into a cushy VP Business Development job. Just a tiny violation of ethics.

Former Congressman Bailey (D) calls Murtha's PH's into question. A REMF getting PH's? HAHA

http://www.strangemilitary.com/content/item/113084.html

Hanoi John Fonda-Kennedy-Kerry aka Lurch.

HalD, come pick the rice shrapnel out of my butt!

To Doc
I know. I would just hate for impressionable bystanders to assume that some of these silly claims are correct, just because they go unrefuted.

Tallil2long
Well rush could call moveon,duh and see if they are “phony soldiers”, well no on second thought, that means they would have to tell the truth and that AIN’T gonna happen!

HUNTER 2008!
http://www.gohunter08.com

an oldie but a goodie!
SOME LIBS ARE LIKE SLINKIES .... THEY ARE NOT REALLY GOOD FOR
ANYTHING ... BUT THEY STILL BRING A SMILE TO YOUR FACE WHEN YOU PUSH THEM DOWN A FLIGHT OF STAIRS

Talliwhatever
And so what did Garafaolo say yesterday? Franken? Huffington? Baldwin?


Oh, wait - does Air America still exist?

More AMMO
for the right.

http://blog.cleveland.com/openers/2007/10/pelosi_defends_re fusal_to_put.html#post

You really have to LOVE how stupid liberals are.

I'm working on another series showing how the Founding Fathers discussed God and Government.

Red Nanny, Hitlary, and George Soera** are killing the Dhimmicratic Party...thanks idiots

Tailil2long
Rush's drug use adds no context to his statements concerning phony soldiers (unless he was high at the time). Not berating the caller for his comment is relevant because, it can be argued, that Rush gave him a pass because the caller's comment reinforced Rush's own thinking. Ergo, if a real soldier doesn't want to be in Iraq, he must be a phony soldier.

I may be nitpicking about the two minutes, but it's only because Rush is the quickest thinker (except for maybe Stephen Colbert) I've seen behind a microphone. I say this in reverence to Rush. To him, 2 minutes is a long time.

Doc
Good one but I prefer a nice cliff. Then, no way the scumbags can live through it!

Robert Robert

Hal, come pin that tail on my donkey and put some STANK on it!

Fred
LOL!

No, Americans don;t want to hear leftist drivel 24/7.

Well, ones with a functioning brain that is!

Err America, liberal talk radio! hahaha.

Could not even make it after stealing 850K from a children's charity.

HOW. FRIGGING. PATHETIC.

Frey wow...
That was quite an extensive bit of logic. You should call it the Extrapolation Trail.

Rush has had soldiers who do not agree with the war call his program. He always treats them with respect and never once accused any of being phony soldiers. Nor has he ever stated that all soldiers who dont argee with the war are phonies.

The fact that you have to get to that assumption by traveling a road of supposition and extrapolation, hardly makes your case.

For the record, when republicans accuse people on the left of saying things they didnt say, I always call them on it. Making up lies about our political adversaries does not help our cause, and is unethical. I never do it. I wish those on the left had the same scruples.

GunnyG
You forgot to mention no panties pelopksi, I read somewhere, that some of her relatives were making good money in this same fashion? Have you heard anything on this?

HUNTER 2008!
http://www.gohunter08.com

Roberta Roberta:
Hal you going up wit me today in the kmart bluelight special?
HaL: no, but you be coming down right?

Fergus
Click my name to read all the shittt lies that HalD tried to spin and still is.

Get your barf bucket handy. DailyKos is nothing but Kos KRazy lunatics who can be found out to show thier true tolerance...here is a great link

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/10/6/122812/847

this is a leftist piece of tripe...read the comments you will see Broken-skull aka Brian McGough who I site on my blog and the LTC,too with the LLS

Then go here for a conservative view and see him get banned for calling them on it....

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/10/6/122812/847

bob
Good point. Rush has given HIS OWN money to both the USO and the Fisher House. Not to mention traveling twice to Iraq to meet the troops. I wonder how much cash Hanoi John has given to the USO/Fisher House? Of course he DID windsurf his way to Iraq to visit the troops! haha.

I would bet a months' check that Rush has donated more money to the USO/F.H. than the entire scummy Dhimmicratic wing who claim to "support" the troops.

To Hang-tyme
I understand that Rush Limbaugh is a veritable Titan among mortals, an intellectual beacon shining across a vast and dark wasteland of inarticulate and slow-witted peasants.

However, it is a bit of a stretch to suggest that he is able to instantly analyze and understand every nuance and suggestion implicit or implied in every word spoken or left unspoken on his show. Yet that is what some of his critics seem to expect.

I dunno; maybe because I don't like Rush, I possess a lesser expectation of godlike wisdom and omniscience pouring from his haloed brow to drive away the fetid mists of ignorance and bathe the once-benighted world in splendour. As certain parties demand that he invariably do.

Doc
Did you mean Red Nanny's hiring of illegals at her winery in Napa? KCOP 13 got THAT on hidden camera. Nothing said in MSM.

Along that line, Dianne "Gun Grabber" Feinstein used her status on the MILCON (Military Contracts) board to send business to her hubby, Ralph Blum's three companies!

Nothing in the MSM.

And of course, who can forget Freezer Money Jefferson, STILL sitting in the hall of the Congcritters.

No wonder the Dhimmicrat's approval rating is down to 9%.

Doc
Actually only took me the same/less amount of time to recognize herer also. I got into the battle a little late. Yep we have the usual troll baiters...Hal, Dogsh*t, treasonous, etc. Hey, you guys want pay me to go aggravate the assho*es at the Kos or Huffer. Papa Sorehole must pay pretty well.
Hal: Lets do it doggiestyle.
Treasontits: Doggie has no style.

Where's the beef?

How silly this all is.

The caller clearly was not talking about Jesse Macbeth; he was talking about actual soldiers who speak up against the war. Limbaugh clearly was intending Jesse Macbeth, though he may have chosen his words poorly. He may have realized he chose poorly, and so grabbed the background about Macbeth and read it to clarify.

What's interesting to me is that Limbaugh could have easily deflated this whole situation simply by saying that his INTENT was Jesse Macbeth, and that if the words he chose to indicate this didn't make the point clearly, that he apologizes to any active or retired servicemen and women who might have found other meanings in the transcript. But Limbaugh, who certainly has no shortage of ego, didn't (couldn't?) bring himself to admit a poorly chosen phrase; doing to would admit fallibility, which is something he does very little.

Of course, this is a man who never misses an opportunity to take advantage of poorly chosen phrases by opponents. Recall John Kerry, whose mangled joke about George W. Bush's performance in school ("Education -- if you make the most of it and you study hard and you do your homework, and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don't, you get stuck in Iraq.") was described by Limbaugh as a straight criticism of American servicemen and women.

So does Limbaugh think soldiers who speak against the war policy are "phony soldiers"? Nah. Does he deserve to be skewered for his poor semantics? Absolutely. And should he apologize? Doesn't matter - but it probably would have made this whole thing go away a lot faster.

.

Gunny
Now, c'mon!! You know Rush only traveled to Iraq for photo-ops- not to say thanks to the troops or risk getting himself killed,no. He was just another rich mother-f-er who could go because he had(gasp!)the money to do it. And that's why the left-minded cannot stand how loud his voice is, cause no matter what they say or do, they know he counts!!!

GunnyG writes
Of course he DID windsurf his way to Iraq to visit the troops! haha.

GunnyG you forgot, he went duck hunting when he got there!

HUNTER 2008!
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john skerry:
i have never met an unarmed gook errr...duck i could not take!

To Hang-tyme
Sorry if I waxed a bit florid on that last response. I have been (justly) accused of being a smart-alec.

yea maybe
there are so many in congress they are hard to keep track of GunnyG

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NYC DOGG:
HaL-you better keep roberta roberta on a leash and away from the topless code pinks! They is mine!

UncleB writes
Hal: Lets do it doggiestyle.
Treasontits: Doggie has no style.

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Doc:
Ouch now UncleB knows how to make it HURT SO GOOD!

BS Detector
Good point on Hanoi John's sick joke.

The troops knew that what bloviating idiot meant.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/31515294@N00/285957756/


HalD

I worked for Lurch and Murtha. DUUUUUUHHH!

How many times
do people here have to say it...several of us heard that show live. It was not doctored, it was not meant for anyone other than those who claim to have BEEN (phony)soldiers. Though Limbaugh's opinions differ from those soldiers now against the war, he did not denigrate them, despite the media spin.
He should not apologize to anyone for the interpretations of others. If you really believe that he called those soldiers against the war then you must also believe John Cary's "botched joke" on stupid kids joining up to be soldiers, right? Enough said.

To BS Detector
Rush has no faulty semantics. He is an evil neocon genius from whom perfection is expected, nay, *demanded* by those critics who read weighty tomes into his every grunt or silence.

You cannot argue with facts.
I always find it incredible how commentors resort to childish name calling when confronted with hard facts.

I especially laughed at Chain's comment about 'blue soldiers' meaning Democrats - even after the transcript is posted and it's clear that's not what was said.

Why can't people such as TR and Chain debate a topic with FACTS? Maybe because in this case, as in so many others, there are NONE to back up their silly statements.

religiouslib writes:
ridiculous
less than 2 minutes later--that is an eternity in radio.

real veterans were offended and that is all that matters, inclluding general batiste.

http://www.votevets.org"

This REAL veteran was not offended.

(Sorry the response is late.)

Tailil2long
Very eloquent, if not excessive. I have no problem giving Rush credit, and maybe I hold Rush to a higher standard because of his intellectual prowess. He's not, however, in a class by himself. Keith Olbermann would slaughter him. Yes, I realize he's a political hack, but he's a propagandist whom I like.

Well, no sense in beating a dead horse. We've both made our cases, and we'll hold to our rationale as if this column was never written. Take care.

BS Detector
"Recall John Kerry, whose mangled joke...was described by Limbaugh as a straight criticism of American servicemen and women."

Uh, that's because it was.

Hang-tyme
Keith who? Never heard of him. Must not be as popular as Rush I reckon!

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http://www.gohunter08.com

roberta roberta:
We taught michael j to stand on his toes, bend his knees in a semi triangle, grab his self in that special place with your right hand, and scream like a girl!

trolls
The trolls ran me off for about a year so I don't read the comments for fear of death by boredom.
I heard that they now take shifts assigned by libs to spend time wearing out conservatives with vacuous, innane arguments and non sequiturs.
It was such boring work taunting conservatives that they had time limits imposed by their union.
I see they are succeeding in their goals because there are more of them on the conservative sites now than on DKos.
Stop feeding them!

To Hang-tyme
I meant it in good humor, but realized afterword that it could be taken as extremely uncivil. It was excessive, but thank you for not making an issue out of it.

I think you are right about beating a dead horse: I just don't really think Rush is good enough to hold to that standard, and you do. fortunately we can agree to differ.

Have a good day, friend. I'll try not to be so sarcastic next time.

Tallil2long
Sorry I was booted for a bit but I do agree with many of your Rush comments. But attacking Rush sure has been fun, signed up up lots of new vets at VoteVets.org and raised lots of cash for them to attack again.


Doc
KEITH OLBERMANN. You won't hear him on radio. His personality, appearance, and wit allows him to be a successful television personality. You can catch his newscast at 8:00 p. m. (eastern time) on MSNBC. Or, you can catch him co-hosting the NFL Sunday night pregame show on NBC. But you're probably not a sports fan. If you were, you'd probably know he was voted #1 on the list of favorite all time espn personalities, past and present.

bob
"Rush has had soldiers who do not agree with the war call his program. He always treats them with respect"

If you could do me a favor, I'd like very much to know when these soldiers have called in and what Rush said to them, because I honestly find it hard to believe. In fact, the caller that phoned in to the show just before the exchange in question was Mike in Chicago, who took the position that many Republican voters are also against the war and that the war in Iraq is probably not winnable. Rush vigorously responded, naturally. Mike said during this exchange that he used to be military. Rush apparently didn't believe him, saying, "And I, by the way, used to walk on the moon!"

Let me know if I read that wrong, but it sounded like Rush was saying that Mike from Chicago couldn't be ex-military because he didn't think the way Rush thought soldiers were supposed to think. He didn't give any other reason for his disbelief.

"For the record, when republicans accuse people on the left of saying things they didnt say, I always call them on it."

I appreciate that. I try to do the same thing on the other side of the aisle.

That
That explains it! ms BS nbc. I do not watch it. As far as football I use to be a fan, but when you can boot a man for stating a fact, well all hope is lost for a sport which already hires its Ref’s from the foundation for the blind! Also who took that poll? george sor hols?

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HaL:
I would love being a ref for the NotForLong League! I could make all the bad calls I want same as I do on TH!

Transcript (partial)
of the exchange I talked about.

LIMBAUGH: This is the United States of America at war with Islamofascists. We stay as long -- just like your job. You do everything you have to do, whatever it takes to get it done, if you take it seriously.

CALLER 1: So then you say we need to stay there forever --

LIMBAUGH: I -- it won't --

CALLER 1: -- because that's what it'll take.

LIMBAUGH: No, Bill, or Mike -- I'm sorry. I'm confusing you with the guy from Texas.

CALLER 1: See, I -- I've used to be military, OK? And I am a Republican.

LIMBAUGH: Yeah. Yeah.

CALLER 1: And I do live [inaudible] but --

LIMBAUGH: Right. Right. Right, I know.

CALLER 1: -- you know, really -- I want you to be saying how long it's gonna take.

LIMBAUGH: And I, by the way, used to walk on the moon!

CALLER 1: How long do we have to stay there?

LIMBAUGH: You're not listening to what I say. You can't possibly be a Republican. I'm answering every question. That's not what you want to hear, so it's not even penetrating your little wall of armor you've got built up.


Let me know if I left out something relevant.

Rodvall
Just ignore them. They attempt to hijack a thread, and then they scoot to another thread. As far as Rush goes, anyone can get a transcript or download the audio. His caller (caller#2) was discussing Jesse McBeth and his ilk. Rush's phony soldier phrase referred to McBeth and people like McBeth (or Scott Thomas, who's TNR Diary detailed phony allegations).

The Trolls know this, but they wish to a)make Rush the subject and not Jessie McBeth, and b)divert attention away from MediaMatters.

The only good thing to come of this is the obvious public linkage between MediaMatters, the DNC, Hillary Clinton's Campaign, and George Soros. I suspect Hillary is a bit nervous.

patriotdefender
You've been reading my blog too much!

HAHA.

Starting to sound like Loyal Democrat

Robert Robert

"Strangers in the nighttttttt."

Hang-tyme
KEITH OLBERMANN!

You mean the guy that sniffs O'Reilly's jock on a daily basis. What a puler.

HalD

I did not want to retire and leave my troops behind.

Robert Robert

That's okay Hallie, you've got me. (giggles)

Frey
You left out the fact, that just like on here, caller 1 is probably just a troll for uncle george. Anybody can say they are republican, on radio, it just doesn’t mean much!

HUNTER 2008!
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roberta roberta:
if we meet anyone in the night, they don’t remain a stranger in the night for long (giggle)

GunnyG
You are a mercenary simple. No one cares what happens to them they are disposable because no one cares. I would miss you you though no more merc to kick around anymore.

JPK
"The only good thing to come of this is the obvious public linkage between MediaMatters, the DNC, Hillary Clinton's Campaign, and George Soros. I suspect Hillary is a bit nervous."

Just wait till Normie Hsu starts yammering to save his butt from prison. Ol Hitlary is gonna do the shimmy-shake!

Looks like Sore Holes is gonna another few million on his DNC investment!

Robert Robert

Hal, got a tampon, I'm spotting?

DOC
You've succeeded at turning football into a political issue. Just goes to show if try hard enough, you can find fault with a stop sign.

BTW, I'm sure you don't watch C-Span to witness athletic prowess. Why would you watch sports to stay politically informed?

Lastly, if you've never heard of Keith Olbermann, why would you assume George Soros took the poll that cited him as the #1 espn personality, past and present?

Hang-tyme writes:
... If you were, you'd probably know he was voted #1 on the list of favorite all time espn personalities, past and present.




Yep, and OJ was innocent the first time around too...



HaL
That’s the difference in the kick tho’. Libs wear flip flops and real vets wear combat boots.

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Hal:
DANG I’ll have to go to army surplus and steal something to kick GunnyG with!

Frey
I was reading another thread a few minutes ago. Someone was giving a list of reporters and what not that have been "busted" (so to speak) for phony stories and stuff like that. Read what "No burka for me" posted on another thread and answer this question:

Are you the same James Frey as listed below?
(thanks to no burka for me)



**************
James Frey, author of A Million Little Pieces, Oprah Book Club. Lying. Virtually the entire "nonfiction memoir" of his vomit-caked years as an alcoholic, drug addict, and criminal was fabricated.



Just wondering.....

Hal the Soros Troll
Funny, I was over at Al-Faw palace today to receive some accolades from a two-star on my performance and how vital I am to the Coalition. Got a commendation to frame and a coin...

HalD

I rub the perfumed prince's feet (Weaseley Clark) when he asks.

Doc
This real vet is wearing nikes

Hang-tyme
Unnn no you did when you stated your host could beat up my host, and that would still be like him taking a pair of his mothers sewing scissors to a gun fight. Rush takes people like him down all the time! And in answer to your last question, I assume george sor hols is behind EVERY poll that favors the left over the right!

HUNTER 2008!
http://www.gohunter08.com


HaL:
If you can’t beat them, join em! Come here roberta roberta, and you better don’t ask don’t tell

HaL scribbles:
Doc
This real vet is wearing nikes

all the better to run from the truth in deary!

HUNTER 2008!
http://www.gohunter08.com

roberta roberta:
I sniff Hals Nikes, they smell ok to me! (giggles)

GunnyG-Doc-PatriotDefender
Are all Liberals lying, Cheating, Cowards or are Treasonous Republicans and NY COWARD the only ones?

Attacks on Rush
The infandous attacks on Rush Limbaugh enraged and energized me as virtually no other actions taken by these morally obtuse people have done. It exposed these hypocritical, intolerant, agenda-driven people for the extraordinarily narrow-minded "yapping jackals" that they are.

Perhaps a "five million man march" on both the Senate and the so-called Mainstream Media would amply make the point that neither corrupt/obtuse legislators or a media which does not reflect the best interests of the United States cannot gerrymander the views and common sense of the vast majority of the American public.

Gunny-G
Gunny writes: "KEITH OLBERMANN!

You mean the guy that sniffs O'Reilly's jock on a daily basis".

Gunny, OLBERMANN neutered O'reilly a long time ago. I'm not sure it's possible to "sniff his jock".

Hal Donahue writes:
Doc
This real vet is wearing nikes,

so he can run to the Dumbbuttcrap Nastiness Cabal, Dummies Unlimited, DailyKOS, the HuffPuke, et al. for his latest talking points.

The NYC Doofus writes
There ain't a REAL veteran on this here board - just guys who like to dress in Uniform and go downtown...

FOADESABATM. Now go figure what it means you POS.

Bman
No, that's not me. Frey is my middle name (Dad was a fan of Norse mythology).

GunnyG-9:23 Post
That attachment is chilling. There is plenty of blame to go around in both parties. However, John Kerry has to be one of the lowest human beings walking the face of the earth. But, if you speak slowly and with an east coast accent, the morons on the left just swoon and think you are brilliant. Yikes!

Hal
"The infandous attacks on Rush Limbaugh enraged and energized me as virtually no other actions taken by these morally obtuse people have done. It exposed these hypocritical, intolerant, agenda-driven people for the extraordinarily narrow-minded "yapping jackals" that they are."

LMAO Go here and spew more:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/10/10/23558/499

Nice name LOL

The NYC Doggg scribbles:
There ain't a REAL veteran on this here board - just guys who like to dress in Uniform and go downtown...

Funny, but I would think with all the buts a dogg sniffs, you would be able to tell a military man from a left do nothing lib, such as yourself, from a nose length away. Maybe all the drugs from your days as a but sniffing dog have tainted your nose!

HUNTER 2008!
http://www.gohunter08.com


Dogg:
Hal has my favorite to sniff, and that is twin buts roberta roberta


The NYC Doggg
"There ain't a REAL veteran on this here board - just guys who like to dress in Uniform and go downtown... "

hey I am not even sure where my uniform is...

Hang-tyme
Maybe in your fantasy world Olberman has neutered O'Reilly. I'm not a big fan of O'Reilly but I can spot a winner when the other side is getting his a** so thoroughly kicked.

Olberman has failed everywhere he has gone. His latest Schtick is a desperate attempt at survival. BTW, ever hear Levin read the stories on Olberman's personal life? He is one pathetic, sick puppy.

Hal the Soros Troll
Do they make that version you're wearing for MEN?

HalD

Ah, Robert Roberta, now THAT satisfies.