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Monday, March 26, 2007
Brent Bozell :: Townhall.com Columnist
'Respectable' NC-17 movies?
by Brent Bozell
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The Hollywood trade publication Variety reports that the Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA), the group that makes the movie ratings, is working to "fine-tune" the ratings system. Its chairman, former Rep. Dan Glickman, "will face his biggest hurdle yet: trying to make NC-17 respectable."

In truth, the MPAA has been trying to make pornography respectable for quite some time. In 1990, the MPAA discontinued its traditional X-rating-for-adults-only system, since the "X" had become almost exclusively associated with pornographic movies. The MPAA Website puts it this way: The letter "appeared to have taken on a surly meaning in the minds of many people, something that was never intended when the system was created." So they changed the rating to NC-17 to avoid that "surly" stigma, even though the rating meant the same thing to moviegoers: no children under 17 allowed.

So why the renewed push to make NC-17 respectable? Trying to make the rating "respectable" doesn't mean the movies that deserve this rating are worthy of our respect. It means convincing newspapers and theater owners to water down their standards. Some newspapers refuse to run ads for NC-17 films, and some theater owners will not put them on their screens, although the National Association of Theater Owners (NATO) swears there's no official policy on that. Blockbuster also refuses to carry DVDs rated NC-17. In short, the movie studios see putting out an NC-17 film as commercial suicide.

Which is why the NC-17 rating is not very often employed. In the last 17 years, the major studios have released only 19 movies with an NC-17 attached. (The highest-grossing one, the 1995 stripper movie "Showgirls," was a commercial and critical flop. It was roundly denounced as trash by everyone, including former MPAA capo Jack Valenti.) It's not so much a rating as a threat. So studios staring at the possibility of this stigma regularly edit back just enough stomach-churning violence or sexual depravity to get an R. (The original versions are then often restored on DVD as an "unrated" edition.)

Last year, the dreaded rating was initially applied to several horror movies. "The Hills Have Eyes" and "Saw III" were both initially rated NC-17 for horrific gore and were edited down to secure an R.

You'd think the MPAA would be proud of this small, very small show of responsibility to warn parents (especially) about the lurid films out there.

But Glickman doesn't seem interested in pleasing parents as much as pleasing filmmakers and theater owners who want this junk in theaters and want to desensitize the public into acceptance.

At the Sundance film festival in January, he and NATO honcho John Fithian urged directors of independent films to embrace the NC-17, to bring "validity" to the rating, suggesting they would have more freedom to pursue "edgier art house fare if the system were more viable." That is, if the NC-17 rating didn't have that unfortunate stigma.

At the theater owners' ShoWest convention last week, Glickman and Fithian were pleading for the NC-17 again. Variety reported Fithian tried to "explode some myths" that theater chains won't play NC-17 movies and newspapers won't advertise them. He claimed the average NC-17 movie grossed $3.9 million, while the average unrated film brought in $1.8 million. That doesn't sound like much of an argument. When "Saw III" was edited back to an R last year, it brought in $80 million.

That still leaves the question: Would "edgier" NC-17 films deserve our respect? For example, Variety reported people were intrigued at Sundance by the movie "Teeth," a "dark comedy" about a girl who has teeth in her private parts, but movie buyers were worried by the ratings problems. Would a "respectable" NC-17 rating system grant it much wider distribution?

The New York Post reports that the forthcoming movie "Grindhouse" is also expected to draw an NC-17, at least at first, for its raw content. The Post had the inside scoop: "In one scene, a cute topless girl is roughly tied down on a table by evil female Nazi experimenters who begin draining her blood, and as she screams in agony, they brand her like livestock with a coal-hot steel swastika," the source said. "And every girl in the Nazi concentration camp is topless."

Another scene features "a grossly obese man chewing on a baby."

This potential NC-17 film has two big-name directors Hollywood loves at the helm, Quentin Tarantino and Robert Rodriguez. Would they put their prestige on the line to promote the spread of the NC-17 rating? Is this "artistic" sludge the kind of film-making that Dan Glickman is trying to suggest would make NC-17 "respectable"?

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Parents on the right complain about movie content and allow their children to accompany them to R rated films. Parents on the left complain about movie content and take their children to R rated films. The movie industry, with more wisdom than most parents show, created a classification for films that were not pornographic but should not be seen by children even with parents.

That classification is apparently being diluted with run of the mill slasher and T and A films. This is a shame. There are adult themes that children should not be exposed to. I have seen two NC-17 films, and they were difficult to endure (this is entertainment?). They were worth the cost of entrance.

Most teen age films are crass gross and vulgar, and rarely worth the price of admission, unless you are a hormone engorged adolescent. I would say don't use NC-17 to legitimize crap films.


I hate to say...

I agree with BHL.

What is this world coming to?

I have to assume you meant to say the NC-17 films you saw were not worth the price of admission, is that correct?

There are many movies out there not worth watching, let alone paying to watch them.

As usual...
...there is just one bottom line:The Money.Hollywood directors,actors,producers,and writers are a lot of things,but one thing they ain't:Artists.IT'S THE MONEY!

Why go to the movies at all?
Wait the month or two until they come out on video or DVD, and you can watch them after the kids go to bed. If you have to. Or you and your college buddies can get Somebody's Hottie Mom to buy a copy and you can all go over to his basement to watch and, um, do what little boys do.

Personally I don't even go to the movies save for Harry Potter and the like. My next movie will be TMNT. In fact, the only really obscene movie I have ever seen was United 93, and you can bet I'd have taken my kids to see it if they still lived at home.

There have been plenty of movies however that charged obscene prices for what they called entertainment.

There should be a new rating
I used to work in a movie theatre when I was going to college and saw a lot of first-run movies. I can tell you today's movies are junk compared to the ones that used to be made 40-50 years ago. When they weren't allowed to depend on nudity, gore, and vulgar language (especially the f-word), directors had to make movies that actually had at least a modicum of artistic merit. Now, it seems, all that is needed is to shock our sensibilities. Here is an example of some of the brilliant dialog coming out of Hollywood today: "Lady, I f***'n killed your f***'n cat, and if you f***'n can f***'n tell me the f***'n name of your f***'n cat, I'm f***'n going to f***'n take this f***'n gun and f***'n blow my f***'n brains f***'n out!" And how about this from a stutterer: "Ffffffffffff***'n - ffffffffff***!" is about all he can manage to struggle out.

Whoever got paid to write such trash was grossly overpaid.

Therefore, Mr. Bozell,I propose a NEW rating, “E” (for “EVEN”), which should cover most films today: Don't watch it EVEN if it's f***'n free.

Brent is a bore
Brent totally misses the mark on this one. He assumes that adults should never want to watch a movie intended for adult audiences only. I guess he thinks that if a movie is not family faire, it must be depraved and immoral.

I think that NATO is trying to get the NC-17 rating to actually mean something, the movie is intended for adult audiences and is not suitable for children. A film does not have to be pornographic to be intended for adults.

Brent once again is dumb
Brent, are you entirely stupid on the concept of Tarantino and Rodriguez's Grindhouse film? Yes, you are? Ok, I'll explain it to you.

Back in the 70's, Grindhouse theatres were specials movie theaters showing "exploitation" films. The film Grindhouse is supposed to be a homage to the grindhouse cinema. In the film, they will intentionally make the film quality subpar, insert missing reels, and have fake trailers in between the two films (since Grindhouse is divided into two seperate films).

If you go to the Grindhouse message board on IMDB, there are a vast majority of fans who WANT this film, including me, to be rated NC-17, but we know that can't happen because of prudes like yourself and the risk that this film which cost around fifty million won't pull a profit because you and your gang of holier than thou saints will campaign tirelessly to remove the film from theatres.

And why the hell all of a sudden are you calling Tarantino and Rodriguez "prestigous"? Have you forgotten that you trashed both directors for Pulp Fiction and Sin City respectively. I don't appreciate, Brent, being called a "sicko" because I like Sin City. Making this film NC-17 isn't going to hurt their prestige, especially since anyone with any resonable movie IQ would know the intended purpose of the film.

There is a time and place for everything. As a fan of Tarantino I find it offensive that you are trying to block out the public from seeing anything YOU think is offensive. Last I checked, you aren't the United States, you aren't representative of mankind, and in general you are known only to relatively few people. There are films for families, and there are films for everyone else. Keep those rightly divided, and don't intrude on the others.

If you want to live life with the attitude of "I refuse to see any movies because I think they're all immoral and trash", then go ahead, it's your right, just don't try to infringe that on movie buffs like myself. Speaking of which, I thought 300 sucked, and not because of the violence, but mostly because of the bad written and terribly corny dialouge =D.

I agree with sedonaman
The majority of the films made today are not worth the money spent, with only a few exceptions. I enjoy films that actually rely on a strong script and solid acting, not on junk that features a character dropping the 'F', or 'S' bomb in every other sentence, or In Your Face Sex and Nudity.

Although I do not advocate censorship, the line has to be drawn somewhere.

Until Hollywood learns to start entertaining people again, I will not set foot in another theater.

I agree with Deornwulf & Waffleofdoom
The NC-17 rating was supposed to allow film makers the freedom to make movies that were intended for adults while distinguishing them from the usual fare that receives X ratings (i.e., pornography).

Mr. Bozell just appears to be a self-righteous prude who wishes all television and movies would conform to a PG rating.

Tonya....
"Until Hollywood learns to start entertaining people again, I will not set foot in another theater."

Correction: "Until Hollywood learns to start entertaining ME again, I will not set foot in another theater."

Glass Half Full?
I am with BHL as well. The ratings guides are simply a rough signal to parents on whether to let your kid see the movie. Personally, I don't need to know whether Saw III is rated NC-17 or R to decide whether I see it. I certainly don't need to know that to decide my children won't see it.

Also, I see it as encouraging that the NC-17 rating is the kiss of death for a movie. Shouldn't we be encouraged that newspapers don't want to carry ads for, theaters don't want to run, and people don't watch, NC-17 movies?

Also, the fact that Hollywood is trying to encourage filmmakers to make respectable NC-17 movies seems like a good sign to me as well. Even though Quentin Tarantino's idea of respectable is different than most people's, at least he and others are trying to change NC-17 movies to contain some artistic merit rather than the mindless sex and violence.

why bother
Hollywood is so over bloated and full of itself I just don't bother anymore. Ever since Hollyrude decided to burst the public's bubble and show us all just how stupid they are no one wants to watch them. Personally I don't solely rely on the ratings before censoring. I will admit however that I am lucky because my child does not care for those kinds of movies so it is easier for me.

NC-17
I would have appreciated it so much if the movie industry hadn't opposed Cleanflicks and other software which would have allowed us to enjoy "clean" versions of movies. I do not want to hear ugly words and see suggestive scenes. I like a good story with interesting characters that we can smile and discuss happily.

I personally would clean up most of the R's.

It makes me very sure that I know Hollywood has a corrupting agenda. They could clean up their acts and make a lot more money, but they'd rather push filth on us.


How many f***'n f***s ...
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...can a f***'n movie have before it's f***'n boringly f***'n worthless? Every f***'n 10th word? Every f***'n 5th word? Every f***'n other word?

Ever since the courts have said it's OK to say "F***" in the movies, it's been to directors like a kid’s new toy. How about a new Academy Award category for the most f***s? I can see it now: "For the film that has the most f***s, the nominees are 'F*** You!', 'F*** Me!', and 'F*** the Man Behind the Tree!'. And the winner is, 'F*** You!'."

I recently came across an outfit that makes a DVD player that edits out offensive words from movies. Each movie has to be individually programmed, and some are so full of f***s that they won't even touch them.

A rating system that means something
Would be nice. As is, we've rented a few PG-13s for our 14-year-old that we were glad we were watching with her because they were really more like Rs used to be. My mom took me to see The Exorcist when I was the age my daughter is now. Put me off split pea soup for life, but other than that, I can't say I was traumatized by my first R-rated film. These PG-13s are more violent and sex-laden than those when I was my daughter's age. On the other hand, some R-rated films today are cleaner than the PG-13s. So, it would be really nice if the ratings meant something. Friends with children in the same age brackets say the same thing.

The problem is not NC-17. It's the whole rating system. Parents should be able to choose a film without a lot of difficulty based upon a rating system that has been in place since I was in Junior High, but really, the only way to be sure is to watch it yourself before you let your kids watch it. My spouse and I have watched a lot of stupid teen-oriented programming in the interest of prescreening and a lot of it has gone back to the video store without our daughter ever getting to watch it. It's ridiculous and it shouldn't be necessary.

The "f" word
I just sedonaman's comments on this. I just watched an episode of Ramsay's Kitchen Nightmares and it had more f-bombs than Scarface (I watched it unedited on the food network in Canada).

The show is quite entertaining at times but Chef Gordon Ramsay uses the f word as a form of grammar. I suspect that if this show were aired in the US, every other word would be blanked out.

This isn't really relevant to the whole NC-17 debate but I found it quite interesting how standards for television broadcasts have evolved over the years. If this show were a movie, it would probably get an R rating in the US and yet its shown on the food network!

counterproductive
Bozell's column contains more than enough evidence against the position he is taking. Because of the stigma (what really seems to be meant is the limitations on advertising and promotion) on NC-17 movies, Saw II and The Hills Have Eyes were slightly modified to R movies where they were more easily seen by children and teenagers. And this is the system that Bozell is trying to continue.

It would make more sense to let adult approriate movies be available to adults making the NC-17 standard what it was meant to be.

What the column shows is that Bozell is not really concerned that things he opposes are being shown to children. His objection is that things he opposes are being shown at all. A healthy NC-17 rating would be a much better way to protect children without stifling adults.

Thank you Brent
for keeping us updated. I always appreciate your columns.
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