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Monday, January 26, 2009
Bill Steigerwald :: Townhall.com Columnist
Liberals in Love - Interview WIth Bernard Goldberg
by Bill Steigerwald
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Award-winning network TV reporter Bernard Goldberg first hit pay dirt in the book world with "Bias," his 2001 best-seller exposing how the news we saw was distorted by the liberal bias of the journalists he worked with during his long career with CBS News. Several media books later, Goldberg is back with "A Slobbering Love Affair: The True (And Pathetic) Story of the Torrid Romance Between Barack Obama and the Mainstream Media." The Regnery Publishing book, which goes on sale Monday, indicts mainstream print and electronic journalists not for having liberal biases, which are a given, but for becoming open and unapologetic activists for Obama.

Q: What's your 60-second synopsis of your book?

A: This is not a book about the same old media bias. This time journalists cross a very bright line. This time they stopped being witnesses to history and they were intent on helping to shape history. They moved from media bias to media activism. In my whole life I have never seen the media get on board for one candidate the way they did this time around and -- this is very important -- they did it without even a hint of embarrassment.

It isn't just conservatives that feel this way. Lots of people feel the media was in the tank for Barack Obama. They were because he was young, because he was cool, because he was black and because he was liberal. There's no way in the world we would have seen this kind of slobbering if we would had just inaugurated the first black president who was conservative and Republican.

Q: You're not talking about opinion writers and pundits, you're talking about news coverage?

A: I'm talking about two things. In terms of news coverage, forget about what I say. There are polls conducted by nonpartisan groups that said the media was way, way more positive in its Obama coverage than its McCain coverage. In other words, everybody has seen what I've seen. I'm not the only one. The media who were on Obama's team, they didn't just put a thumb on the scale; this time they sat on the scale.

But we're talking about lots of supposedly hard-news reporters, but even in opinion -- and this is an important point that I'm glad you brought up -- I think opinion has to be relatively intelligent. I mean, Chris Matthews saying he had "a thrill running up his leg" when he heard Barack Obama speak. And Matthews said "You're not an American if you don't cry when you hear Obama speak."

This isn't political commentary. This is a man crush. This is embarrassing. He is by far the most embarrassing commentator on television. I want to make it clear -- commentators are allowed to comment. I get that. But the commentary has to have a semblance of intelligence to it, and Chris Matthews has become the single biggest embarrassment in all of the media in terms of this campaign coverage.

Q: So is he the most egregious example -

A: Let me give you two. Chris Matthews is the most egregious example of media slobbering I have ever seen.... Chris Matthews is an embarrassment of the first order. But I'll tell you something else -- and this is the single most embarrassing sentence I have ever seen in the Washington Post. This is a story on Christmas morning, Page 1, Washington Post, about Barack Obama's exercise regimen. I'm going to read you the line and I don't blame you if you think I am making it up. I swear to God I'm not: "The sun glinted off chiseled pectorals sculpted during four weight-lifting sessions each week and a body toned by regular treadmill runs and basketball games."

Let me tell you something. If there has been a more embarrassing sentence ever published in the Washington Post, please, somebody tell me what it is. You'd read something like this in a romance novel with Fabio on the cover. This is the kind of slobbering I'm talking about. This is not the same old, same old. They jumped the shark this time. They really took sides and they didn't care who knew it. That's different from anything that happened in the past.

Q: You already knew the way the media tilts, so were you just waiting for this to happen or did it shock even you?

Q: That's a very interesting question. It's the latter. I figured it was going to be the same old thing. Of course they were going to root for the Democrat. They always root for the Democrat, the more liberal the better. That I expected. And believe me, I wasn't going to sit down and write a book about that. But the more I looked at it, the more I watched, I said, "I can't actually be seeing what I am seeing. I can't believe I'm reading what I'm reading." What pushed me over the edge in terms of wanting to write a book about it was the incredible lack of concern for what anybody thought. Even Howard Kurtz in today's Washington Post said it's not just conservatives who think the media rolled over for Barack Obama -- and they better change.

Q: Hillary Clinton has to be pretty annoyed at the media.

A: She's the biggest single loser in all of this. If the media had done its job early on, Hillary Clinton would have been the nominee for president of the United States and probably elected president of the United States.

Q: What are you trying to prove and who are you trying to persuade with this book?

A: Because I am a journalist, I want to document things that I think are important. And since the only group mentioned in the Constitution with constitutional protections that is a real business is the press, the media. I think they are worth taking a look at. It's not what I am trying to prove; it's that as a reporter, as a journalist, I like to write about things that I think are important. And I think how the media behaves in a free society is very important. It's not enough to simply have a free press; you have to have a fair press. That's what I am trying to document.

The second part of the question is, "Who am I trying to persuade?" I'm going to be perfectly honest with you. I reach out to liberals in my books. They criticize not liberals but they criticize liberal biases or liberal insanity or liberals going too far, or whatever. I would love for liberals to also read this book, in addition to conservatives, and say, "Hey, he's making a good point." But the fact is, too many liberals, while they acknowledge the bias of the media -- and they do -- they don't care. I can't deal with that. If they are willing to accept corruption because the corruption helped their guy get elected, that's on them, not me.

Q: What you said is absolutely true - I've seen it: even if journalists recognize it, they don't care.

A: They don't care because the press is also liberal like they are. But what they don't understand -- because they haven't even thought about this for a second -- is that the only institution in America that has constitutional protections is the media; but that is for only one reason - to keep an eye on a very powerful government. Well, if nobody trusts the media anymore - and one poll indicated that 90 percent of Republicans thought that the press wanted Obama to win and 62 percent of Democrats and independents thought the very same thing - what's going to happen when they sound a real alarm for a real crisis? ... That's the danger that these idiots put us into this time around, with what went way beyond bias and was actually media activism.... We're not going to listen to them when they bark the next time. They're the watchdogs? When the watchdogs bark, nobody's going to be paying attention.

Q: Which media institution -- print or electronic -- should be most ashamed of its coverage?

A: Oh that's easy. Thank you. That's a softball. MSNBC. Not even close.

Q: And we all know where Chris Matthews works, right?

A: (Laughs) That's right. By the way, I was asked by Bill O'Reilly a week ago, "Do you think it's a mental disease or do you think it's business?" - He was actually talking about the general Bush-hating. I immediately said "It's a mental disorder, because don't underestimate the power of insanity. 'Bush-derangement syndrome' is for real." But in the case of MSNBC, it's also business. They have made a conscious business decision to corrupt an entire news organization in order to jump on a liberal bandwagon. That's a journalistic sin. That's not just the old bias. That's a kind of corruption that runs very deep and is hurting the NBC news brand.

Q: A defender of MSNBC might say, "Well, they are just trying to be the liberal version of Fox News."

A: I have heard that, but it's not true and I'll tell you why. If you turn on Fox - and I recommend this to my liberal friends - pick a day in the future - next Sunday, it doesn't matter - and listen as long as you can. You will hear liberal opinion throughout the day. They have liberals and conservatives on all day long. Even the most conservative show on Fox, Sean Hannity's show, has liberals on all the time. Listen to Keith Olbermann, and you will never hear a conservative voice - ever. So MSNBC is trying to be a magnet for the Bush-hating left, and in a very, very, very small way it is doing that. But it doesn't even pretend to present a balanced view. Its opinion shows don't have to, I grant you that. But Fox's opinion shows do; MSNBC's don't.

Q: Not counting Fox, were there any honorable exceptions among what we call the liberal mainstream media that did not swoon over Obama?

A: I'll give you a couple from MSNBC, interestingly, to show that I am trying to be fair. Chuck Todd -- the political director for NBC who was on MSNBC every day during the campaign? I thought he was fair. I thought he was reasonable. The morning show on MSNBC -- "Morning Joe"? There are more liberals on it than conservatives, that's for sure. Most of the people who were on there during the campaign wanted Barack Obama to win, but Joe Scarborough injects a little diversity of opinion.

Q: Pat Buchanan was always there, too.

A: Buchanan is one of those conservatives who hate Republicans, in my view. He's a safe Republican. He's been rejected by the voters three times. He's no fan of Republicans. He's safe. I can name a whole bunch of conservatives that would make MSNBC much more interesting, but I'm not in the habit of wasting my breath.

Q: Have you seen any improvement in the coverage of Obama since you finished your book?

A: Absolutely not. If anything, the slobbering has continued. The question when I finished writing my book was, "Will the slobbering continue?" I thought it would. It has. And the best example of the worst kind of slobbering is that line in The Washington Post that said "The sun glinted off chiseled pectorals ... ." And this was after he got elected. So the slobbering continues. And by the way, I don't see an end in sight.

Q: Who can we trust to provide us with fair and balanced reporting on the Obama era before us?

A: I know everyone has jobs, everyone is busy. But I think the best thing you could do is read as many sources as you can. If you are going to read a liberal newspaper like the New York Times, check out the op-ed page of the Wall Street Journal. If you are going to watch MSNBC, please, do yourself a favor - watch Fox. And not because Fox is conservative while MSNBC is liberal. But while Fox has a conservative tilt, it presents both points of view all day long. So I would suggest that you watch or read as much as you can and don't get stuck in a niche where you are only reading one thing with one point of view because then you'll never know what's going on in the world.

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Bill Steigerwald, born and raised in Pittsburgh, is a former L.A. Times copy editor and free-lancer who also worked as a docudrama researcher for CBS-TV in Hollywood before becoming a reporter for the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and a columnist Pittsburgh Tribune-Review. Bill Steigerwald recently retired from daily newspaper journalism..
 
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Scary
Scary, but all too true! When will people wake up?

I remain sicked
by the media's big wet kiss to Obama and their demonization of Pres. Bush. I frankly, can't stand it and look forward to the day the NY Times has to shut down - and let them take Chrissy Matthews with them.

it's not just the media
Talk to any leftist troll and they continue to parrot this narrative concerning the messiah.'

It is almost impossible to pick up any of these threads and no see the same insanity from every lefty concerning the coming miracles and how the world will be better just because the messiah is here.

There has not been one shread of doubt that the country is not only better but that every policy and spending plan is being forwarded just to make america better and fairer.

But even worse the bds hasn't stopped and there is never ending talk of why the messiah needs to start prosectuing bush.

If the combo of advancing the messiah and punishing bush restores american glory the the sooner it starts the better and the sooner the world will come to love america again, according to the new liberal bible concerning their messiah'

But what is worse. It seems the messiah himself fully buys into this nonsense, which points out how shallow he truly is

alice
the problem will matthews will always be was he truly moved by the messiah speaking or was he just voicing his homo erotic fantasy concerning his real attraction.

Matthews attraction for the messiah goes beyond just admiring another speaker.

But many of us find the messiah to be a very pedestrian speaker at best, not given to inspiration but using tired old expressions but giving the left nothing more than the voice they have failed to articulate in the past

Bernie,Thanks!!
This is no news to me. Bernie has been in the national news business and knows of what he writes.

The media went over to the dark side this election cycle. They have always been liberal and had no love for the other side,but never as bad as this atrosity.

The gal media was bad enough,but the guys. This was man-boy love if there has ever been such a thing. They should join NAMBLA and make it legal.

As for Olbermann,he was on C-SPAN last week being interviewed by someone whose name I didn't catch since it was in progress when I caught it.

I listened for about thirty minutes. The entire time consisted of laughing and making nasty remarks about conservatives,in particular and Republicans in general. Sarah Palin was especially a target.

Both Olbermann and the interviewer were guilty of atrocious behavior. Olbermann acts like a rabid dog.

When we say goodbye to the late,great USA, the media will be to blame. They could have stopped it. It was their job to let the people know who and what they were voting for. They failes miserably.



Aha. No doubt
this is going to be another "surprise best seller", right? After all, what "sensible" (ie "liberal") person is going to read such a book?

..............
"A Slobbering Love Affair: The True (And Pathetic) Story of the Torrid Romance Between Barack Obama and the Mainstream Media."

What a title. I'm definitely getting it.

I was never a bush fan
and had no problem with the media attacks on bush since he mostly deserved it. In fact he deserved a lot worst truth be told.

However I find the media love affair with obama to be totally disgusting. Not even JFK or FDR recieved such unshamed love from the media. Its one thing for the media to be liberal bais and democratic bais its another for them to be pushing a cult of personality like they are doing now.

The only thing I've even seen that even comes close is the media love affair with facsism and communitism in the 1920's and 1930's.

More sour grapes from sore losers...
Media bias is in the eye of the beholder. the media told the truth and repubs/cons cant stand it because they got their arses kicked royally by obama and the dems...the truth the media told is that obama was running a superior campaign to mccain and that is exactly what translated to his victory. anybody with even a little knowlege of politics could have seen this. media bias is an excuse for losers crying foul, when the blame they should be putting on anyone should be themselves.

As Gomer Pyle would say,
Sue-prise, Sue-prise! I am shocked that they have not come right out and admitted that they have been trying to "change" the USA into a communist country for decades.

Left Angle
Even you are not too blind or dumb to see the double standard the media has for the two parties in general and Obama in particular.

Such wild statements,not even close to being true is the reason NO ONE wants to debate you. It is useless to try to reason with the unreasonable.

left angle, stupid child
student left dangle shows up to again deny reality.

So tell us hapless clown, exactly what is the role of the media? In past years they actually asked questions concerning the candidates and investigated stories to check for their validity.

You are just that young and stupid to believe the msm is nothing more than a branch of entertainment tonight.

Trolls like you have no problem with msm calling bush hitler but if anyone tries to ask your messiah anything slightly embarrassing then you start crtying how unfair the questions are.

But we already know you share the same homo erotic fantasy for the messiah as displayed by matthews.

But maybe your dream will come true, the messiah will push for gay marriage and you can marry the man of your dreams without leaving maryland

one more thing...
anyone that knows anything about how the media makes money is by moving their products and selling advertising. whatever is the HOT story tends to attract the most attention of the media because it moves products and avertising.

so who made the most profit for the media in this election cycle..Cleary without a doubt Prez Obama followed by repub v.p. nominee Sarah Palin.

After Obama was elected practically all of media including conservative were trying to make a buck off of him...if you dont believe it
take a look at the very conservative Washington Times. They are selling commemorative copies of the Newspaper OF THE OBAMA ELECTION AND INAUGURATION...AND THEY HAVE A UPCOMING BOOK CALLED:

"PRESIDENT OBAMA: THE START OF AN ERA" $34.99

Rowly please
explain the process by which the so-called msm
"hypnotized" the american public into voting for Prez Obama and electing him POTUS..

explain the process please. how is it done?

Eye of the beholder
Sure, media bias is in the eye of the beholder. If your political philosophy is say, to the left of Stalin, you're likely to not see any bias in the media or you might say they are right wing biased. North Korea state radio is probably to the right of MSNBC. Cuban State Radio is probably fair and unbiased to those that listen to NPR.
The Republicans contributed to their loss, but you have to love the hypocrisy with the notion that Republicans were fiscally irresponsible from the folks about to knock in 1 trillion in deficit spending for every liberal wet dream spending fest that anyone can dream up.

How sad
And what happens when the one fails? Will the msm report that? Will the fairness doc. keep radio and the internet in check. How sad we only believe the print and tv news are to get 1st amend. protection.
Kirk

left dangle
obviously you are that stupid not to understand there is a difference between objective reporting and selling tires.

But during this last cycle the msm was selling the meesiah and not doing objective reporting.

If the media did it's job and vetted all stories for all candidates and the public then makes it's decision they are doing what was expected/

But in your case the media only did what you would have done, posted love notes about your messiah. But that proves the msm has become full of losers fully engaged in pushing a leftist agenda, since the messiah is a leftist asd well.

I would imagine that when you finish high school and get to college you will be majoring in journalism so you can get into a position to write love notes about your losers leftist heroes running for office.

LA is the quintessential liberal!

A Conservative could tell LA that it's raining outside... and because it was a Conservative who told him it was raining, LA would say, rain is in the eye of the beholder!

Then, the Conservative could actually take LA outside long enough for LA to get soaking wet, to the skin.... and LA would still insist that rain is in the eye of the beholder, and it wasn't raining... regardless of how many times the Conservative brought LA's soaking wet clothes to his attention.

It IS a MENTAL DISEASE, just as Goldberg and Krauthammer, and Rossiter, and Bradley have ALL SAID!


Obama Is An Alinski Radical
If you don't believe Obama ia a Alinski radical read "Rules For Radicals" By Sol Alinski. Obama was trained under a Community Organizer Plan that taught the "rules for radicals." ACORN is also an Alinski style community organization.

Why did 58% of Americans vote for Obama? For that answer read Alinski's book.



Reporters needed
We still don't know what went on in Chicago all those years. We still don't know who has Obama's Blackberry address. Just because election is over, we still have a right to know. Dan Rather never gave up, although he was tilting at windmills.

Anne: a question...
when is obama going to start his conversion of the u.s. govenment system to marxist socialism and communism?

rotflmao

Left Angle
Very predictable,L.A.

As I said ,you are either blind or dumb if you don't see the double standard and if you can't see what is before your eyes,I can't help you.

If you were on the other side,you would sing a different tune. You would be screaming like a banshee about it. Democrats would not stand for such bias.

Go ahead and gloat about what the media did for you. The longer B.Hussein stays in office,the better Bush will look. Mark my words.

BTW.I did not mention hypnotism.

left dangle
obviously you are that stupid not to understand there is a difference between objective reporting and selling tires.

But during this last cycle the msm was selling the meesiah and not doing objective reporting.

If the media did it's job and vetted all stories for all candidates and the public then makes it's decision they are doing what was expected/

But in your case the media only did what you would have done, posted love notes about your messiah. But that proves the msm has become full of losers fully engaged in pushing a leftist agenda, since the messiah is a leftist asd well.

I would imagine that when you finish high school and get to college you will be majoring in journalism so you can get into a position to write love notes about your losers leftist heroes running for office.

jim can you explain
how media bias got obama elected? exactly HOW does the process work? Can you give a detailed explaination? Inquiring minds want to know.

Left Angle
How did the media hypnotize?

That is an easy question to answer. When you actively promote that stories like Bill Ayers, Tony Rezko, and Reverend Wright are a distraction from the "real issues", but then you report Bristol Palin's pregnancy and Sarah Palin seeing Russia from her house (which she never said, Tina Fey did) as important news stories, you are NOT DOING YOUR JOB!!!

It is absolutely sour grapes...but the sour grapes are at the obvious corruption in the media.

Left Angle
How did the media hypnotize?

That is an easy question to answer. When you actively promote that stories like Bill Ayers, Tony Rezko, and Reverend Wright are a distraction from the "real issues", but then you report Bristol Palin's pregnancy and Sarah Palin seeing Russia from her house (which she never said, Tina Fey did) as important news stories, you are NOT DOING YOUR JOB!!!

It is absolutely sour grapes...but the sour grapes are at the obvious corruption in the media.

ok rowly....let me rephrase
what you are saying is biased reporting by the so-called msm was a major factor in getting Prez obama elected.

what I am asking you is to explain exactly the process and how it worked on the people that voted for him.


you made the accusation so back it up, dude.

..............
-----when is obama going to start his conversion of the u.s. govenment system to marxist socialism and communism?......by some leftist idiot----

Leftist eunuch, since you're too stupid to even understand what socialism or communism is you'll never realize when it materializes. We’re already socialist lite. Just keep sniffing glue and waiting for your welfare check; you're irrelevant. I was born in the former USSR and the concept of a “fairness doctrine” to squash dissenting opinions is right out of the Kremlin.

“The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism; but under the name of liberalism, they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program until America will one day be a Socialist nation without knowing how it happened.”

-Norman Thomas, six-time Socialist Party candidate for President



Why many liberals don’t see the bias
Many liberals are incapable of truly seeing liberal bias because they do not see liberalism as a political ideology, but rather the brave steady march of enlightened progress. The rest of us, they believe, sadly have not yet evolved up to their Olympian level.

Thomas Sierra foothills
- - -
Border Enforcement + Immigration Moratorium = Job & Eco Sanity

left angle
I see you’ve renewed your prescription for medical marijuana.
Marxist FOP

I can just hear...
...liberals after reading this article:
"nuh-uh"!!!!!

Defrauding the USA
Welfare, stimulus checks, bailouts, and TARP are all methods that liberals use to destroy the economy of the United States. In stead of having welfare recepients attend training to be self supportive, social workers and religious leaders teach government dependency.

Left Angle
Either you are dense or deliberately trying to be obtuse.

Read slowly,now.

An unknown person comes on the scene who no one seems to know much about and is thrust in the limelight. He tells us about his jobs,his education and other vitals,but does not share them. There is no proof of his papers,grades,etc.Just his word.

We have never even seen a legal birth certificate. We have seen the next best thing,but not an original. He has never held a real job that we are aware of. He smokes cigarettes. He used cocaine.

His friends are suspect. Ayers,Lezco,Wright,Blago,Phleager,Farrahkan and some other Muslim friends
,who are ethically and legally challenged.

He collected $750 million for his campaign. Much of it foreign money,laundered by who knows who. His affiliation with the criminal ACORN and George Soros,a known socialist who funnelled money to him and his co-workers.

This is just a small list of what we do know that the media conveniently overlooked. It was not important. He was Obama. It was his time.

If he had been a Republican,can you honestly say he would not have been the subject of every newscast 24/7 in the news media?

Several posters above answered your question better than I could. If you don't want to take my word for it,read theirs.

Now,I am finished with this. I don't usually go this far,but you were polite,although I realize you know full well what we are saying is true.



Keep it up - you are a laugh!!!
Left Angle: Keep it up - you are a laugh a minute - better than a TV comedy!!! But so sad too!

Left Angle #21: He ALREADY DID!

How about the $600 MILLION nicely hidden in the stimulus package to START UP his SOCIALIST HEALTH CARE program!

Next???


The messiah is in control
Obamanation is hatred being spread by the media. Using the terms unity, hope, change, and peace to confuse the liberals worshippers.

Oh and LA: Here's another one!

Seems Bozo has decided to "CHANGE" the rules in order to "fast track" the USSA signing onto the Kyoto Treaty.

Yup!

He's trying to make sure it now requires only a simple majority to sign the treaty...

Guess now it's "Change" the rules if they're getting in his way!

Not exactly the "Change" he seemed to be talking about during the campaign, now is it???



re: Tim's Buchanan/Conservative,Goldberg
Tim,

Goldberg is a liberal too. He's just currently reviled by the media because of his book and an op-ed he did a while back about bias in the media that came out before the book.

Educate yourself. The man didn't become a conservative. He's just a liberal that has integrity. Not many like him these days.

Obama is a pathological narcissist

Barack Obama is a pathological narcissist and has a very weak sense of self.

Barack Obama compensates his devalued and injured self with pomposity and by projecting a false image of majesty and authority.

Barack Obama retreats into a bubble universe of fantasy, in which he is loved, respected and omnipotent.

All children create such a world. Narcissists like Barack Obama, simply don’t leave it.

Barack Obama has carried this world of pretense into his adulthood.

Barack Obama has made this world so real, he NO longer can differentiate his world, from reality (real world).

When Obama acts presidential, he is simply acting out his childhood fantasy of omnipotence and grandeur.

Barack Obama emotionally, is still a little hurt boy (from a dysfunctional family), neglected and unloved in the body and mind of a grown up man.

Barack Obama, can and will be dangerous.

Barack Obama has the emotional maturity of a child, but the intellect of a man.


Barack Obama is a 'Perpetual Child' and will project the rage of a child towards Liberals when they begin to criticize his failures to produce his campaign rhetoric.

Jeffrey: In today's day and age, I'm

not sure one can separate "liberal" from "democrat" but if it's possible, Goldberg is the (possibly only) example.

During each of the interviews when his previous books were published, he was very clear that he is, and has been, a life long democrat...

I don't think I ever heard him actually say that the was a "liberal."

He may have, and I just missed that interview, I will admit. But I've never heard Goldberg say he was a "liberal."


Duh Jeffrey !

I have,I've listened to Bernie Goldberg's own words.

But where on the political spectrum does Goldberg place himself? "I’m probably slightly to the right on some issues, a Neo-conservative," he said on my radio show. But in his book Goldberg describes himself, with qualifications, as pro-choice on abortion, against "sex discrimination," pro-affirmative action, and pro-welfare. "I’m a liberal the way liberals used to be," he writes. "My views these days are fairly mainstream…."

Now apologize,Jeffery,My Good Man !

bacilli: IF and WHEN you have something

of substance to contribute, by all means, do feel free to post it...


Until then, keep your childish, inane, vapid, meaningless little snipes to yourself.




Geeze, NO WONDER your kid wanted to go FAR, FAR, FAR away to boarding school. Can't say as I blame her.






Jeffrey,Here's The Attribution !

http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=64DFE2E9-F 26E-48

What do you think many Neoconservatives are?

The movement was started by guys like Irving Kristol and Norm Podhoretz.

Should I ask you,Jeffrey to "Educate Your Own Self" ?

Apparently,to guys like Goldberg, it depends on what your definition of "Is" is.

Chris Matthews
Bernie Goldberg forgot one of the most ridiculous comments Matthews has made so far. On "Morning Joe" (which I love), Chris Matthews said it was "his job to make sure Obama has a successful Presidency." No joke - he said it - you can find it on YouTube. He said it's what this country needs - which is true. Too bad they weren't willing to help out when they were positively abusing our last President.

I can't wait
to walk into a book store and ask for this book by name. I'll probably get boo'ed for my courage.

I don't understand why so many people here devote so much time to LA. No doubt she/he is spending most of her/his time on her/his knees at Obama's feet, performing "The Monica". And after that, she/he has got to try to wash the stain off the dress.

WILLIEEE Lopez/Baci/wrightrong 69 !

Foist, I read your Saturday Post .

Thank you for being a gent.I admire that.

Secundo,Is that therapist ,that you recommended to Anne your therapist ?

I imagine that she could give us a group rate and be The Resident Therapist for the whole freakin'TH site,not to mention Huffington and Daily Kos.

These sites are the worst case of conditions ,ranging from mild neurotic behavior and arrested development all the way up to fullblown Psychotics with Paranoid Schizophrenia.

Good Lord,just look at Wobbie The Wanger and Wing Wiper Hal and Mario,The Cuban Calypso Dancer,Who we are attempting to help.

I shall temporarily ,not cast dispersions on you,WILLIEEEE !,Since you were such an exemplary Gent Saturday.




Its pretty easy
for the media to promote a candidate or issue Uncle Walter of old CBS told how to do it 40 years ago. You determine what is real news and refuse to report anything that disagrees with that position. In this case you give candidate 1 three times as much coverage as candidate 2. You make sure that the coverage of candidate 1 is 70% positive and the 30% negative is minor.
You make the coverage of candidate 2 70% negative and the 30% postion personal like being a likable old man.

Its an old tactic books were written about it as far back as the 1960's.

Only a person with out any knowledge of histroy would be ignorant of this simple fact.

left angle writes
"They are selling commemorative copies of the Newspaper OF THE OBAMA ELECTION AND INAUGURATION...AND THEY HAVE A UPCOMING BOOK CALLED:

"PRESIDENT OBAMA: THE START OF AN ERA" $34.99

Who wants to waste $34.99 on a book when were in the middle of a recession that the liberal democrats started?

Look at it historically

The media hated Carter.
The media loved Reagan, the "Teflon President".
The media hacked away at Clinton for 8 years with phony "scandals".
The media completely slimed Gore in 1999-2000, and rolled over for the candidate Bush.
The media (including Matthews) rolled over for Bush for at least the first six years of his disastrous presidency. The evidence here is overwhelming: the media helped him lie us into a war, to cover up the problems with the war, to cover up the various war crimes (torture, rendition, illegal wire tapping, etc), to cover up his regime's financial difficulties, and so on.

The reasons Obama was elected were (1) the media hated Hillary and took her out; and (2) McCain was a lousy candidate because he was forced to run on Bush's awful record.

It's quite simple: The US media our owned by corporations as is the republican party. Thus the US media supports republicans, and has for many years.

Goldberg's book is right out of bizarro world.



Ship Of State
Ordinary people are primarily concerned with maintaining their budget. Gitmo, wasted fetuses, far away wars, are issues. But not nearly as important to the ordinary person as updating erotic pleasures. All the crap about the suffering middle class is just a media illusion. 90 percent of those whiners are busy shining up their two 50 grand Mercedes on week ends. It is true some have lost jobs and I weep for them. But my ship of state is going full sail thanks to the blessings of Lady Luck.

Shame on you Baci
the constant personal attacks on Retired Geek are uncalled for - he is one of the best posters on TH.

Mr Douglas:"Goldberg's book is right out

of bizarro world."

You've read Goldberg's book? Assuming you have, otherwise you wouldn't know if it was "right out of bizarro world" would you?

But then, "anything" that doesn't agree with your far lunatic leftist take on anything, you automatically think is "bizarro" or "hateful" or "nasty" or whatever...

I trust that's NOT what you're teaching!







dr douglass
I guess being a shrink also refers to your diminishing brain power.

The media fully supported bubba and kept up their stupid idea of a vast right wing conspiracy.

But the fact remains, the media didn't invent the clinton scandals, the clintons irresponsible and illegal behavior did that all by themselves with their actions in arkansas and in the white house.

The msm attacked bush from day 1 and never relented. But living in socialist oregon I doubt you get anything but the liberal/leftist twist on everything

Willieee Lopez/Baci?Wrightsrong !

The RNC and elsewhere the chain can profit from Tech Apps.etc.

Let the best product and service providers win the contracts,regardless of politics,religion,race,except Dallas Cowboy Fans.

I am watching Boehner and Mitch McConnell on this Recovery Bailout Issue.

I'm also watching The South Carolinians, Senator Jim Demint and Governor Mark Sanford as comers.

Good luck with your proposal.






LuLu: Unfortunately, bacilli, being the

quintessential intellectually limited, lunatic liberal, personal attacks is ALL HE HAS!


Dr. Douglas @6:48
You really give Loyal Democrat a run for his/her money with the satire.

You have commented before about your view on the media being conservative. I have met one person in my life who thinks the media is not liberal enough. Then again, he also thought Paul Wellstone was too conservative.

I am not sure if it matters to you or not (my guess would be that it doesn't), but the laughter you hear is not people laughing with your media ideas. . . . .

Regards from a former Duck

Get with it
People who watch liberal media are all nothing but a bunch of Pinkos

ALL of the insane mass-murders

ALL of the insane mass-murders of the 20th century were the product of Leftism (Liberals).

The Nazis (National Socialist Party) are well remembered for murdering well over 11 million people in the implementation of their slogan, 'The public good before the private good'.

The Chinese Communists for murdering 62 million people in the implementation of their slogan, 'Serve the people'.

The Soviet Communists for murdering more than 60 million people in the implementation of Karl Marx's slogan, 'from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs'.

Barack Obama and his destruction will be remembered as 'Sacrifice for the Common Good'.

jenanderson151: YES! I saw the "replay"

of that part of "Morning Joe" where Matthews said that.

Stunning!!

And then there is Tavis Smiley, a black PBS talk show host who said, "It's OUR Job To Help Make Obama a Great POTUS"

http://www.debatepolitics.com/bias-media/42139-tavis-smiley -s-our-job-help-make-obama-great-potus.html

And it gets even better......

"Tavis Smiley is the Black PBS talk show host who seems to have a chip on his shoulder about race.

"The day after Obama's win Tom Brokaw seemed triumphant in the victory but also seemed hopeful that the era of race card playing was now over because White America had 'paid the past slavery and Jim Crow debt' in full.

"When he alluded to that Tavis Smiley seemed eagerly but mildly indignant, like, 'not so fast, paleface....you aren't getting off the hook that easily.'"



Now, anyone who thinks there is NOT a left wing media BIAS is either crazy or unconscious.

Willieee Lopez/Baci/wrongsright !

I don't know these guys solid. I need to do more homework.

It's Steele vs. Blackwell.
Cautious about Anuzis.

For Tech views try:http://rncchairtechindex.blogspot.com/

Some of these guys think Liberal Light is the answer.

Philosophically,I think The Three Legged Stool of Social,Fiscal and Defense Conservatism beats The Neoconservative Agenda and RINO CINO's Dem Light.

People vote their Wallets.and more often then not,"It's The Economy Stupid ".

Strategy wise,Match The Dems in High Tech Internet,Etc. and Neutralize Obama's Perpetual Campaign, oppose Obama's weakening of Taxpayer Voters Power by making more Non-Taxpayer Voters,oppose DEM Illegals Amnesty Scheme for Demographic Voter gains,Etc.




Surprised.
until now, I never realized how many people actually despise this country and just about everybody in it.

I suspect that it is nice, though, to have others to blame for all your personal failures, addictions, personality disorders, bad luck. When you can put your disappointments and self-hatred into a political framework and blame a third of the country for your sorry lives, you can just keep going and going.

He's preaching to the choir

You don't have to read a book to learn about MSM bias, all you have to do is pick up a newspaper, or turn on a television set.

keep going, Anne
I suspect that constantly hating your country, your fellow citizens, your government, your schools, and in fact everything that even looks American, is what keeps you from jumping out of a 20th story window.

Sorry, friend, whatever happened to you wasn't caused by liberals. Take some personal responsibility.

Retired
'ALL of the insane mass-murders of the 20th century were the product of Leftism (Liberals).

T

RETIRED
ALL of the insane mass-murders of the 20th century were the product of Leftism (Liberals).

You are obviously the spokesman for what's left of the conservative movement. Hang in there, they need you.


Retired Geek and Dr. D
German National SOCIALISM: no less than 12 million, possibly as many as 25 million, murdered.

Russian Soviet SOCIALISM: no less than 3.5 million, possibly as many as 60 million, murdered.

Chinese Maoist SOCIALISM: no less than 19.5 million, possibly as many as 60 million, murdered.

Never mind the victims of Pol Pot, Castro, Kim Jong Il, Tito, ad nauseum.

No wonder Dr. D gets testy when you call him (and BHO) socialist.

And speaking of whom: "The media hated Carter."

That was only because they knew him.

Retired Geek
"Barack Obama is a pathological narcissist and has a very weak sense of self."

As opposed ot you, Geek, who's life is so empty and wretched that you spent just about every waking hour sending ignorant, hate-rants to the internet so you can divert your attention from the pathetic existence you call a life?

Obama is not your problem. You are your problem.

If it's less painful for you to imagine that you are going to be the citizen of a totalitarian state and sent off to a Gulag, than to face up to your own reality, then I recommend a good therapist who might be able to help you find a more constructive way of handling your unhappiness.

jay
I'm sure glad that Retired Geek is on my side (most of the time) and you get ranger, hal, left angle, mario, sophie, and dr douglas.

I understand that it is not a fair fight so the Geek does tie one hand behind his back.

Have a cold but wonderful night in our great state.

Regards

MNDuck said to me
"I'm sure glad that Retired Geek is on my side "

And what side is that, Duck, the one you get with your cheese-whizburger?

Bernie Goldberg
Bernie is on with Hannity tonight.

Sorry jay
Cheezewiz is for badger or beaver fans. I prefer Pepperjack with my ham.

Whether you agree or disagree with Retired Geek, you cannot deny that he is bold with his opinions and never leaves the reader in doubt as to his position. In the world of presenting opinions, he is a man in a world of boys.

Regards

Gee jay: Exactly what would make you

think that I hated my country and my fellow citizens, govt., schools, or everything that looks American.

In fact, I'm curious as to what YOU think "looks American."

Take some personal responsibility? Exactly what could you mean by that?


Duck
I don't mind that Geek is bold with his opinions, but I feel embarrassed for him because his opinions are so paranoid and screwy, and let's face it, really obsessive. I think he hallucinates.

Got to go - don't forget to wear your mittens tomorrow :)

jay - finally
You get to have your opinions about Retired Geek and I will have mine. I think he is very thorough and well-researched. You think otherwise.

I've learned that I do enough goofy stuff on my own to embarrass myself and I am sure you and Geek do as well. No need for you to feel embarrassed for him when he does not pretend to be embarrassed for stating his opinion. Matter of fact, I think he likes to go against the grain and dig deep into subjects that others only tangentially want to touch.

Gotta go as well. Don't forget the fur-lined jockstrap. . . . . 10 below can be nasty.

Regards

Obama is going to circumvent media
by having his own news releases on the Internet.

PresidentialBalls.com

"Dr" Douglas
You know, I have actually heard liberals make measured, rational, cogent arguments on occasion. But any clown so delusional to say that the "US media supports republicans, and has for many years" automatically disqualifies themselves from having anything else that they say be taken seriously.

Obama's First Interview
President Obama Does First Formal TV Interview as President with Al-Arabiya
January 26, 2009 6:29 PM

As special envoy to the Middle East, George Mitchell heads off to the region to begin work on negotiating a cease fire between Israel and the Palestinians, President Obama has sat for his first formal TV interview with the Arabic cable TV network Al-Arabiya, ABC News has learned.

The interview was taped this evening and is set to air at 11 pm ET, as Mitchell is in the air and on his way to the region.

Based in Dubai, Al-Arabiya estimates that it has a potential audience exceeding 23 million in the Gulf region.

Dr Douglas it is certainly
a bizarro world you lived in. The media loved the idoit carter, in fact a good part of it still loves him and continues to try and cover up his growing insanity. The media hated Ford for doing the right thing with Nixon and openly pushed for carter. The media hated Reagan they tried everything to ruin his campaign and his presidence even manufactoring false stories to try and force him out of office. Lucky for the country there were still some intelligent voters back then and the media brainwashing failed. The media loved clinton and covered up all his mistakes and sins like bombing civilians supporting terrorist, illegal deals with China. The media hated bush because he beat their hand picked boy gore jr they had no problem with his liberalism they just hated him for beating there hand picked candidate not once but twice.

But all their love affairs of the past dim in comparison to the orgy they have over obama.

Media didn't love Clinton?
Tell that to the cartoon shows (Animaniacs first season, produced by the leftist Steven Spielberg), the video games (Socks the Cat) and the commemorative plaques being sold.

Not only obvious media loving, specific targeting of children to condition a new generation of far left nuts.

P.S. - Stop using the term liberal. You stole it from people like me, but that's pretty much the left's modus operandi.

Obama and the new America
GWB and Rove wanted to push amnesty -- even though they did not win -- Republicans have no chance to win a Presidential election in the future in states like Nevada, New Mexico, Colorado and Arizona. At some point (10 years or so) it will be that way with Texas. It is what happened to California between 1980 and 2000. Poor hispanics vote heavily for Democrats -- Rove thinking differently was stupid (at best getting 40% of the vote is still a big loss).

Obama will continue the diversity push. Few new voters will vote for the Republican party as we know it. America will likely end up like Yugoslavia in 1990 or the Indian Subcontinent in 1945 -- ethnically and religiously very divided. I hope we don't get the violence -- but I could see that happend too.


This is so refreshing
Thanks Bill and G-berg.

Ironically, I'm listening to Brian Williams wetting himself on Letterman as I type. Tho' he's not embarrasing himself as badly as Dave. What a twit.

In fact, Williams is now actually making some effort to be fair. Gotta give him credit. He's funny too.

Letterman is completely Okoolaid wasted.


Goldberg's dishonestY

At least three articles pointing out Goldberg's dishonest, distortion, and doctoring of evidence can be found at:

http://mediamatters.org/items/200901250008?f=h_top

This is probably just the tip of the iceberg



Doc Liberty

I know you guys have been suckered into thinking that Nazis were socialists, but this is just total crap. They were hardcore conservatives who hated and murdered real socialists and communists.

Why don't you read something other than your conservative propaganda. There's all kinds of books that distinguish different political ideas - communism, socialism, democratic socialism, social democracy, liberal socialism, and so on which are quite distinct. It's not a black and white world.

As for media, again there are many books which have exposed the overwhelming conservative media bias. For example, Eric Alterman's "What liberal bias?" would be a good place to start.

Bizarro World

I don't know how long you people have been around but you really should do some reading - not your conservative propaganda from people like Goldberg, but something a bit less biased. I suggested Eric Alterman's "What Liberal Bias?" in another post of going to "mediamatters.org". You might dismiss these as being liberally biased, but there still much more accurate than Goldberg.

Think about how extreme Fox news is. It's nothing more than a propaganda organ for the republican party. It's a horrendous and very sad joke. Is there anything any where close to that extreme on the liberal side? Not at all. Or the Washington Times, or the Wall Street Journal? You may claim that PBS and the NYT are liberal, but in reality they are centrist (and PBS does little news). MSNBC might also be centrist. But the rest (Washington Post, CBS, NBC, and ABC) are clearly center right.



Remembering Walt Kelly
Pogo said "We Have Met The Enemy And He Is Us".
I say, "We Have Met The Hypocrite And He Is Us".

We watch while the Democrats practice their dirty politics with nary a mention of a double standard. Double Standard is where you look at yourself in the mirror, know it is dishonest, and like the Sociopath, feel nothing if the dishonesty benefits your cause. Yes, we let our hypocracy show when we cheer the villin and
hiss the hero. A convicted criminal could be a
Congressman if he is a Democrat; The MSM would
ignore child molesting charges if he were a Democrat AND a minority.

Dear Dr. Douglas
Goldberg was mainstream media. He got thrown under the bus when he suggested, I emphasize suggested, that there might be a bias in NBC's news reporting. He chronicles it in his first book "Bias." Without any real conservative axe to grind, it's a good read.

To assert that PBS is centrist, all I can say is the we've met bizarro, and it is you.

Dr. Goldberg
Thank you for revealing yourself to be such an intellectually useless tool.

"I know you guys have been suckered into thinking that Nazis were socialists, but this is just total crap. They were hardcore conservatives who hated and murdered real socialists and communists."

Gee, you DO know whence the name "Nazi" is derived, doncha???

And you do know what Socialism *is*, don't you? Try and find a major industry in Nazi Germany that was not controlled wholesale by the state. Germany's version of Socialism may have kept up a front of private ownership, but when the state rigidly controls the means, manner, and timing of production, controls prices, and in general manages the economy from the top-down the way Hitler's government did... well, tell us genius, what would YOU call it?

There may be many flavors of Marxism, but they all come down to the same thing, and Nazi Germany is no exception. The fact that the Nazis murdered Commies along with Jews, Romany, and gays is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that you are correct. It's not like Marxists don't kill other Marxists; look at White vs. Red in Russia, Stalin vs. Trotsky, Khmer Rouge vs. more moderate Socialists in Cambodia. The fact is that Socialism is an ideology which demands blood, in horrifying buckets-full, and always has been.

Not that I think any of this will make any difference to you; you seem to be fully around the bend. But your idiotic cr@p could not go unrefuted.

Dr. Douglas: Reagan
One more thing: having lived through, and remembering QUITE clearly, Reagan's presidency, I can say without heistation that your assertion that the media loved Reagan is a big steaming pile of bovine excreta. "Teflon president"??? Yes, they did call him that, and the fact that you think that it was a term of admiration and love is just ridiculous. They were amazed that no matter how much they flung at him, none of it seemed to stick.

I vividly remember seeing Sam Donaldson on Carson, talking about Reagan:

"He would give you the shirt off his back... then, sitting there shirtless, he would sign away your welfare benefits."

The message, to anyone not too blinkered to understand plain English, was that Reagan, despite genuine personal warmth and charisma, was a heartless b@st@rd who callously wanted to take things away from the poor and downtrodden.

No, Dr. Douglas, your assessment of the media's attitude toward Reagan is beyond foolish, beyond deluded, beyond partisan. You're a fool.

Dr. Douglas: Media Matters
I just can't seem to stop. You cite, multiple times, Media Matters, as though that site is an unbiased source of information. You do know who originated, and who was and is behind Media Matters, do you not? It was created by the Clintons, in conjunction with George Soros, a man who made it his personal mission to unseat George W. Bush in 2004 (thank GOD he was unsuccessful!) Soros, by the way, is the self-same individual who, as a Jewish teenager in Hungary, collaborated with the Nazis in confiscating property from Hungarian Jews. He is also the man who so undermined the nascent democracy in 1990s Russia that it could never survive; we have Soros to thank for, among other 21st-century horrors, the dictatorship of Vladimir Putin.

I challenge you to find any single conservative financial backer of Fox News who is as powerful, much less as ideologically single-minded, as George Soros.

Whoops...
My first post is addressed to "Dr. Goldberg." I should know better than to try and write when I am not yet awake.

It should be titled "Dr. Douglas."

Remove the constitutional protection
The media and the left (a redundancy) likes to see flexibility in the second amendment and has never (hardly ever at best) concerned itself that the 10th amendment is regulaly trashed in Washington.So....I propose a modification of the 1st amendment protection. Lawsuits should be allowed - even encouraged to insure adequate and reasonably fair disbursal of key information without which voters can't be expected to vote properly .

Although it's effect is the same -the media is not abranch of government and needs to either do its job of informning Americans reasonable objectively or lose their special privilige.
There is only one reason they were granted it in the first place - to serve the public interest. When they are in effect, controlling mass thinking and electing our presidents as well as covering their favored politicians dangerous actions as good things, or the fault of the other side, they do great harm to America.

Let a 60% poll determine that they are out of bounds and they lose their franchise protection or broadcasting license. This isn't the Soviet Union yet - though this commentor believes we are past the point of no return, in no small part, because of the wishes and abuse of the 1st amendment protections afforded them.

Don
There's nothing like a cure that's worse than the illness. I'm sorry, but your suggestion reads to me like a "We had to burn the village in order to save it" sort of response. That's not to say that I don't empathize...

Fergus
Sometimes we have to amputate to save a life -each bridge or tunnel built costs lives. In case you haven't noticed, the constitution, other than as a verbal weapon, is a dead document -simply because failure to demand it be followed as the stqandard by which all laws of the land be judged. Whether it be misused to create imminations from penumbras and murder 50 milllion lives, or ignored to go to war with ourselves over some imaginary requirement that no one may seceed from the union, it is a toothless tiger. Better to modify now(pick you own method)the power of the press, before all is lost and your voice is no longer being heard, than to continue this path toward total control of the masses by the ruling class. Truth is the victim and when the constitution acts to preserve untruths, we need to change or ignore it.

Mr Douglas is not only a worm, he's a

cowardly worm....

IF he had any credibility, he'd not be posting only late at night when no one else is logged on.

I think we have another "ranger-IQ29" in our midst... Best we ignore the "fruit loop."

Dr.Jekyll & Mr. Hyde
Evidently Dr. Douglas drank the elixir concocted for his alter-ego. The bad Dr. is all we see here on townhall. Where is the 'good one'?

Eric Altermann is a lying,left-wing dupe for the Democrat Party. He is one of the clowns who the good 'Dr.' cites. That shows me where HE is coming from.

For the record...I think the evil one should make a list of the left-wingers in the news media and counter it with the right-wingers in the media.

Of course,he doesn't know the difference,because he is delusional and a liar.

to LeftAngle from MD
"the media told the truth and repubs/cons cant stand it because they got their arses kicked royally by obama and the dems..."

Typical, always look at the "win" and forget the numbers... 48% of the voters did NOT select BO as their choice... it was hardly a mandate!

Granted, "a win, is a win, is a win", but...

Rowly: The Plot Thickens....
I read your post from yesterday on "Prez Obama:
The Unknown"

It's a very interesting take on the events leading up to the election of Obama as POTUS.

So let me get this straight.

You beleive that Prez Obama is not who he says he is and that he is point man in a massive plot by anti-american subversives to overthrow the U.S. government by internal coup and covert it to a marxist communist/socialist state/dictatorship.

Is that it?

Robert you miss the point...
The repubs/cons have accused the so-called msm as having a formal or informal relationship with the dnc to purposely slant the news in a negative manner against them and their politicians.

They also believe that the so-called msm was higly instrumental in getting Dem Prez Obama elected thru bias reporting against his repub opponent Sen. McCain, while actively promoting the candidacy of Obama.

do you think any of this is the truth?

if so please explain the process of how it's done and how people that voted for obama were influenced by the so-called msm to do so.

Left Angle
Bingo!!!

Rowly: a response
that is not the first time I have heard this.
Primarily I have heard it in repub/cons websites like TH, but there is also a undercurrent mummuring of it in the right wing press...Tony Blankely wrote a article I read today that had a similar theme. the name of it is:

"Obama's Blank Screen: Beward of deception, new nationalism"

I am at a loss for words. It is absolutely amazing to me that you right-wingers actually
believe such a conspiracy exist. So what proof do you have?

There is an ole quote
that fits Dr Douglas perfectly.

To argue with those who have renounced the use and authority of reason is as futile as to administer medicine to the dead.
Thomas Paine

If he has ever known the use or authority of reason he has long since given it over in favor of emotion.

Several more examples

I've long believed (given the overwhelming evidence) that the media is conservatively-biased, but the two most blatant examples from the Bush years were:

1) the downing street memo - this was really a "smoking gun" regarding the bush administrations lying us into the Iraq war. It was a British memo describing secret meeting with the Bushies, in which the British head reported that "the facts are being fixed to fit the policy". This was completely ignored by the msm.

2) the other was the fact that the NYT discovered that the Bush administration was breaking the FISA law through illegal wiretaps (I think Lichtblau was the reporter). However, the Times sat on this story for over a year, without printing it until after the 2004 election. If they had done their job and printed it, Bush would have lost the election.

Those were the two worst from my point of view, but there are many other examples. Just from a simple common sense point of view, remember that the corporations control the media, the corporations are pro-republican, and thus the media should be and is pro-republican.

Dr Douglas great example
of the liberal bais in the media. In the first example this was the same tactic that they used to hid the real facts behind clinton's war in the Balkans and his bombing of civilians in Iraq, Sudan, Pakistan, Serbia and a number of other innocent countries. In fact Bush was just repeating the standard lie that the clinton and their liberal lackeys in the media used to justify his attacks on Iraq.

Same in the second case look how the media covered up clinton's dealing with China, his illegal enemies list, this using the IRS against his politicial enemies.

Perfect examples of liberal media bais.

On Reagan
The media was quite wary of Reagan until he got shot, then they rolled over. They called him the "teflon president" because, given all of the corruption in his administration, none of it ever stuck to him. It wasn't the media that was flinging things at him; rather, it was he and his administration that was doing destructive and illegal things. Some examples:

the media instantly forgot about Lebanon fiasco when reagan turned around and attack Grenada (nutmeg capital of the world)
the media ignored the devastation his policies reigned on El Salvador
the media ignored the terrorist activity he unleashed through the Contras in Nicaragua
the media let him off the hook for the Iran-Contra scandal. If they had done any actual reporting, Reagan would have been impeached (same of course with Bush).

instead, they called him "The Great Communicator".

If Reagan was really hated by the media, then why did he get away with all of this? Why was his vice-president then elected? Why has he since been beatified?

Fergus - Please get you facts straight.

For example, you through out this bizarre claim about Media Matters claiming it was started by the Clintons with some connection to Soros.

In reality, it was founded by David Brock. Brock was a rightwing propagandist (you might want to read his books). He got so disgusted with the conservative attack-dog style that he founded media matters, which is dedicated to pointing out conservative bias in the media.

It is true that it is a liberal site which focuses on conservative bias (Bozell''s focuses on liberal bias). But it is still an honest site, with word-for-word transcripts often accompanied by videotapes. Read the ones I posted about the dishonesty in Goldberg's book.

Profblog - I think you are right

and I was wrong in saying PBS is centrist. On second thought, I would say that the NewsHour is central (it's all he says/she says junk and actually covers very little). It's weekly half hour show, Washington Week, which used to be center-left is now center-right (look at who the panelists are). However, Bill Moyers weekly half-hour really is leberal.

So, based entirely on Moyers, I correct what I said and will change PBS to being center-left (slightly).

But still, keep in mind that PBS does little news reporting. Other than the NewsHour, the other two shows are on friday night and probably have a low audience, at least among younger people.

MSM et al
This article reflects the perpetual problem of the MSM enabling the left’s preoccupation of undermining the economy, stability, and security of the country in order to satisfy the irresponsible and usually immoral segment of society looking for handouts. Voters this time around have really, REALLY been sold a bill of goods that will absolutely not translate to reality while causing much more volatility in the market, slow the economy if not precipitate a full-blown depression, and dangerously increase our vulnerability to terrorist attacks. Change is obviously needed but it has to be done responsibly which is not, repeat NOT, the democrat agenda.

Evidence 1 - poverty coverage
Note: Poverty has always been a main issue for liberals, but this study shows that the MSM ignores it:

FAIR’s study examined the three weeknight network newscasts—ABC World News, CBS Evening News and NBC Nightly News—over a 38-month period (9/11/03– 10/30/06). We considered every story mentioning the words “poverty,” “low income,” “homeless,” “welfare” or “food stamps,” compiling a list of all stories that dealt with issues of poverty in more than a passing manner.

It was a short list. During the more than three years studied, there were just 58 stories about poverty on the three network newscasts, including just 191 quoted sources.
For perspective, a FAIR study of network newscasts (Extra!, 5–6/02) found that in just one year (2001), the three networks included a total of 14,632 sources. Assuming that the nightly news still features a like number of sources per year, that would amount to some 46,000 sources over the 38 months of FAIR’s study, making sources appearing in poverty stories just 0.4 percent of overall sources.

Evidence 2 - McCain vs Obama
Note: this is a university study so it should be objective.

"But as George Mason University’s Center for Media and Public Affairs documented in its study of six weeks of TV news reports this summer, Obama’s coverage was 28 percent positive, 72 percent negative. (For McCain, the split was 43/57.) "

Note: note a huge difference favoring McCain, but still it's substantial.

evidence 3a - columnists
As Editor & Publisher paraphrased one syndicate executive noting, "U.S. dailies run more conservative than liberal columns, but some are willing to consider liberal voices."1
Though papers may be "willing to consider" progressive syndicated columnists, this unprecedented study reveals the true extent of the dominance of conservatives:
• Sixty percent of the nation's daily newspapers print more conservative syndicated columnists every week than progressive syndicated columnists. Only 20 percent run more progressives than conservatives, while the remaining 20 percent are evenly balanced.
• In a given week, nationally syndicated progressive columnists are published in newspapers with a combined total circulation of 125 million. Conservative columnists, on the other hand, are published in newspapers with a combined total circulation of more than 152 million.2
• The top 10 columnists as ranked by the number of papers in which they are carried include five conservatives, two centrists, and only three progressives.
• The top 10 columnists as ranked by the total circulation of the papers in which they are published also include five conservatives, two centrists, and only three progressives.

Evidence 3b - columnists continued
• In 38 states, the conservative voice is greater than the progressive voice -- in other words, conservative columns reach more readers in total than progressive columns. In only 12 states is the progressive voice greater than the conservative voice.
• In three out of the four broad regions of the country -- the West, the South, and the Midwest -- conservative syndicated columnists reach more readers than progressive syndicated columnists. Only in the Northeast do progressives reach more readers, and only by a margin of 2 percent.
• In eight of the nine divisions into which the U.S. Census Bureau divides the country, conservative syndicated columnists reach more readers than progressive syndicated columnists in any given week. Only in the Middle Atlantic division do progressive columnists reach more readers each week

Evidence 4 - guests on news shows
As it happens, FAIR has studied the guestlists of many of these outlets. The partisan guests on CNN's Wolf Blitzer Reports were 57 percent Republican. On the CBS Evening News, they were 76 percent Republican; on ABC World News Tonight, 73 percent; on NBC Nightly News, 75 percent. On NPR's All Things Considered and Morning Edition, Republicans were 61 percent of partisan sources. (Look for a soon-to-be-released study of PBS's NewsHour for a comparable figure.)
As far as their guestlists are concerned, all the major media outlets we've looked at do tilt to the right. We hope Ailes enjoys his birkenstocks.

In 2001, FAIR found this: “Of the 56 partisan guests on Special Report between January and May, 50 were Republicans and six were Democrats—a greater than 8 to 1 imbalance. In other words, 89 percent of guests with a party affiliation were Republicans.” In 2004, FAIR studied the Special Report guest lists again, and still found a gross imbalance: “Among ideological guests, conservatives accounted for 72 percent, while centrists made up 15 percent and progressives 14 percent. (The total exceeds 100 percent due to rounding.) Viewers were roughly five times more likely to see a conservative interviewed on Special Report than a progressive.”

Evidence 5 - columnists again
Note: this is from a conservative group

The Center for Media and Public Affairs, a right-leaning media
watchdog headed by S. Robert Lichter, recently found that during the period from Sept. 7 to Oct. 1, 50 percent of panelists' comments on Fox News were favorable toward Bush, while only 13 percent were favorable toward Kerry. Although the report found that Fox's evening news broadcast conveyed positive judgments of Bush about as often as NBC News did and a little less often than CBS News did on their evening news broadcasts, Fox conveyed positive evening-news judgments of Kerry significantly less often than did ABC, CBS, and NBC.

A look at the 15 most widely syndicated newspaper columnists makes the point: Nine -- 56 percent -- are solidly right-wing. Of the remaining six, only three are solidly liberal -- Molly Ivins, Nat Hentoff, and Ellen Goodman.

Evidence 6 - misperceptions
Another university study:

The basis for Bush's victory was in place way before 2004. At the end of last year, a huge study done by the University of Maryland's PIPA, the Program on International Policy Attitudes, found that most of those who got their news from the commercial TV networks held at least 1 of 3 fundamental "misperceptions" about the war in Iraq (and some held 2 or 3 of them):
• that Iraq had been directly linked to 9/11

• that WMDs had been found in Iraq

• that world opinion supported the U.S. invasion of Iraq.

Viewers of Fox News, where I worked for years, were the most misled. But strong majorities of CBS, ABC, NBC and CNN viewers were also confused on at least one of these points. Among those informed on all 3 questions, only 23 percent supported Bush's war.

How can you have a meaningful election in a country where, according to polls, half or more of the American people don't know who attacked us on 9/11? They think Saddam Hussein was involved.

To help Bush mislead Americans, Fox News Channel required that the banner "War on Terror" run when Iraq was discussed.

Evidence 7 - conclusions

I'll stop here. I have many more of these studies, and have left out ones by media matters or other groups you might consider too liberal (though to be fair, the website FAIR is a liberal group, but their studies are top notch and not biased.

It's easy for everyone to read bias (or accuracy) through the lens of their own politics. I'm sure as a liberal I do this quite often.

But reality does exist, and you can get at it through legitimate, controlled studies. If you look at these studies, then it becomes clear that the media has a strong conservative bias (studies from the clilnton era show the same thing) when it comes to politics and economics.

propaganda vs reality
the media couldn't hang anything on Reagan because far from devastating El Salvador his policies brough great progress and freedom to the people. The terrorist in Nicaragua was by the communitist government not the contras which the people supported and helped free those people from one of the worst governments in latin america. Reagan didn't attack Gredada he authorize a rescue mission which unlike carter's was well planned and successful. Iran-Contra scandal was entirely a manufacture of the media which hated Reagan no crime was committed everything done was legal and constutitual unlike clinton's deal with china which the media covered up.

Next time dougy try posting something at least a little close to reality. Your silly fantasies are boring at least try to be a little entertaining. Right now your just being a bad episode of the X-files. Which I think is were you get most of your so called facts.

Great interview and column! Wrong day!

Glenn Beck just interviewed Bernie Goldberg...

In Glenn's typical "Spot On" but hysterically funny show style, he had the "lighting guy" turn down the set lights, and the "sound guy" playing Barry White, while Goldberg read the Washington comPost FRONT PAGE article about Bozo's exercise habits.

That article read like a steamy paper back that probably comes in a plain brown paper wrapping.

Had to laugh out loud...

Give me a break! We've got serious thing going on, not the least of which is the Marxist in our White House, taking us on the fast track to Marxism, and the Washington comPost writes what is almost porn on the front page... on Christmas Day, no less.....

This is more than a "A Slobbering Love Affair: The True (And Pathetic) Story of the Torrid Romance Between Barack Obama and the Mainstream Media."


dr douglas
full time fool and leftist clown

The idea that fox supported bush was more than offset by the never ending attacks from nbc, cbs, abc, mcnbs, the nytimes the washington post, time, newsweek an a myriad of others

But clueless fools like you will always see america as the enemy. But now you have your wish. Your messiah is giving the terrorists the same rights and access to our legal system. And the even dumber murtha wants to house them in a prison he wants built near johnstown pa.

And today the naive messiah tells the muslims we are not their enemies. But the fool fails to realize we are still targeted by the terrorists and the fantasy the muslims hold they will rule the world through worldwide sharia, after they have defeated the west.

And fools like you will stand by and cheer them on

SLOBBERIN' IS A FULL TIME JOB
The News Media in America used to be an asset to the Freedom Fighters, the Hard Workers, the Dreamers, the Inventors and the Leaders of America.

Now, THEY ARE AN EMBARRASMENT TO AMERICA.

THEY SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF THEMSELVES.

Seven years ago, my 16 year old son said to me:

I GET IT DAD, THERE' A 50% CHANCE THAT WHAT I READ IN THE NEWSPAPER IS TRUE!

I replied:

It is actually closer to 10%!

IF I COULD TELL THE MEDIA TO DIE, AND THEY WOULD LISTEN, I WOULD TELL THEM TO DIE.

SINCE THEY DO NOT LISTEN, BUT ONLY PREACH...JUST DROP DEAD AND I HOPE YOU ALL GO BROKE.

ROWDY BOOTS

LRWFC Of America
charter members..

Anne
GunnyG
Retired Geek
Rowly
Beowolfe
The read dunderhead

and many many more...

LUNATIC RIGHT WING FRINGE CLUB OF AMERICA

Seven pages of evidence

And you guys completely ignored it!!!

The best you can do is call me names?????

Left Angle's got it right - you guys are hopeless.

left dangle the infant
don't you ever get tired of parading your immaturity and ignorance of life.

You statement of the assumed msm shows how stupidity runs in your family. But never fear we don't tire of presenting you as a total imbecile.

But then you have something to look forward to. Your messiah is ruining your future by giving more handouts to those who are already taking more from the system then they are entitled to.

But in the meanwhile, the msm which yoiu deny exists won't ask any questions about the messiah's spending plans and the effect it will have on the national debt.

But like you the msm doesn't seem interested to know what is going on. You and the chris matthews of the world act as though no one should question the clueless clown who is now president.

If his ideas are so great and will bnefit society why shouldn't the media ask the questions that will fully inform the public.

Seems like the media you are afraid of finding out the truth that you messisah is cluless and like all dims do far greater damage.

But tell us coward. Why are you afraid of the media asking questions, that is supposed to be their job. But trolls like you would rather dwell in the ignorance that your messiah won't deliver on his many promises

Liberal Creeps
I love these liberal creeps who rant about Fox News and talk radio never caring that almost the entire news media (the 3 networks, CNN, MSNBC, PBS, The NY Times, Washington Post, Time, Newsweek, NPR, etc) are nothing more than the propaganda outlets of the DNC.
The liberal news media is nothing more than a 5th. column in this country.
I am greatly looking forward to reading Bernies' and Ann Coulter's books. At least, they are not lying down and playing dead for Obama, unlike virtually the rest of the Republican Party.

Things The Left Still Don't Know.
The symbol of America is the eagle. Benjamin Franklin,I believe wanted it to be the lowly turkey. In a few weeks,the turkey would be fitting,if B.Hussein has his way. But I digress.....

The Eagle is a magnificent bird and a fit symbol. The beautiful eagle soars high and sails on air currents and nests in his aerie on a high cliff. America has always been like the eagle.

If the eagle loses the strenght of his left wing..he cannot fly. He will be immobile and will soon die. The same with his right wing. It is necessary for him to be balanced in order to fly.

The left would like nothing better than to kill the right wing in this country. They do not only want to win...they want power forever and the right must be destroyed forever.

This country will not survive as we know it without both wings. The right wing is already weakening because the left wing is more powerful. America will be immobile and die,if it does not change direction.

Gulp! - Some Slobber is Being Swallowed
I like the title part "Slobbering," although I might have used drooling as a better word, or frothing.
It's fun watching some of the slobbering, drooling, frothing Obamaniacs already now blinking like frogs in a hailstorm, as daddy used to say, and swallowing or trying to wipe the spittle or other matter off their putrid lips.

Your argument was destroyed

in Posts 111 - 118.

Your response was to ignore this research and to call me names.


dr douglas, elitist parasite
no all you did was post leftist idiocy that you chose to believe as accepted truth.

Really funny how you shrinks have no problem inventing illnesses that you can use to line your pockets but think using that same flawed thinking makes the case for your hatred of bush and america.

Go and get new talking points from your socialist handlers at moveon and kos. Just like you they hate america and believe socialism is the answer

Far Lib just embarrasses self
"Dr." Douglas is certifiably insane, living in some alternate universe.

Journalists and editors are over 85% registered Democrats and their monetary donations go there as well. These are all on public record.

So these are the people who are "slanting the news toward the right?"

And conservatives complain about and refuse to watch MSM news because it's slanted towards them?
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