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Monday, June 09, 2008
Bill Steigerwald :: Townhall.com Columnist
Will Big Media Look at Obama and His Leftwing Influences?
by Bill Steigerwald
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Two weeks ago Cliff Kincaid, president of the conservative group America’s Survival Inc., called a press conference in Washington to challenge the mainstream media to look into the hard-core left-wingers who are known to have influenced Barack Obama -- first as a teenager in Hawaii and later in Chicago. Specifically, Kincaid’s group wants a major news organization to follow up on the investigative work it has done that documents that an elderly black man who mentored Sen. Obama in Hawaii was a lifelong member of the Communist Party USA. Kincaid also would like to see a serious journalistic vetting of Sen. Obama’s relationship with the left-wing radicals in Chicago -- Bill Ayers and others -- who helped Obama launch his political career. I called Kincaid -- whose challenge to the media has yet to be accepted -- on Wednesday, June 4, at his home in southern Maryland.

Q: Can you briefly sum up what you have discovered about Obama’s ideological influences that you say need to be checked out by Big Media?

A: We think all the major candidates should be examined for their ties to foreign and hostile elements. In the case of Obama, he has gotten a very, very favorable press. The media seem reluctant to dig into his background, even though he is relatively new on the political scene. What we discovered, in two different places -- first in Hawaii, where he went to high school, and in Chicago, where he started his political career -- is that he is right in the middle of communist networks. In Hawaii, he was mentored by a member of the Communist Party by the name of Frank Marshall Davis. In Chicago, his career was launched and he was close friends with a number of communists and socialists.

Q: What specifically did your investigation find out about Davis, who Obama calls only “Frank” in his memoir “Dreams from My Father”?

A: What was very disturbing to us was the fact that Barack Obama had covered up the true identity of this “Frank” who played such a role in his life just before he went off to college (in the late 1970s). There are several references in his book to this “Frank.” We discovered that “Frank” was indeed Frank Marshall Davis, who was a member of a Soviet-sponsored communist network on the island of Hawaii. We think Obama should be asked to explain why he didn’t reveal Frank’s true identity in his book. We looked into this and had confirmed by several sources that Frank was indeed Frank Marshall Davis, and that he had a considerable influence on Obama. But we cannot really get a rational explanation of why Obama would cover up the identity of this Stalinist agent.

Q: How do you know for sure Davis was a member of the Communist Party USA?

A: We have several different sources confirming that Frank Marshall Davis was a Communist Party member. We have congressional hearings and investigations. Plus we have those who have written about Davis, including John Edgar Tidwell, who wrote a whole book -- a sympathetic book -- about Davis but discussed his membership in the Communist Party. Davis of course was asked about this when he was called before a Senate committee, but he took the Fifth Amendment rather than discuss it openly. There’s no question that he was a key member of this Moscow-sponsored communist network in Hawaii.

Q: What was the most subversive or most dangerous-to-America thing Davis ever did?

A: Davis was an unrepentant communist. He stayed with the Communist Party even after the Hitler-Stalin pact. That’s why I refer to him as “a Stalinist agent.” Other prominent black Americans who had gotten into the Communist Party had left it. For example, Langston Hughes and Richard Wright got involved in communist activities but then broke with the Communist Party because it had become an apologist for some horrible crimes not only committed by Stalin but by the Soviet system. Yet Frank Marshall Davis stayed with the party and wrote some infamous poems not only defending the Soviet Union but attacking the United States.

Q: Is there anything to lead you to believe that Davis made a concerted effort to indoctrinate Obama?

A: What we know is that Barack Obama’s grandfather introduced Obama to Frank Marshall Davis because Barack Obama needed someone to look up to. Remember, this was a time when Barack Obama’s black father had abandoned his family. Barack Obama’s grandfather thought that Davis would fulfill the role of male role model and mentor -- and that’s the role that he played.

Q: When Barack Obama got to Chicago he came into contact with '60s radicals William Ayers and his wife, Bernardine Dohrn. What is most worrisome about their possible influence on Obama?

A: It really begins even before Obama gets to Chicago because according to his book, when he goes to college -- first Occidental College and later Columbia University -- he picks among his friends Marxist professors. Obama himself admits this. He also admits attending socialist conferences. That would suggest the influence that Davis had on Obama extended into his college and university years.

Now when he gets to Chicago, we find that once again he gravitates and comes into the company of the most extreme anti-American elements, including socialists and communists. Keep in mind that the Weather Underground terrorists, Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, were communist terrorists. They were not just '60s radicals. These were people who openly supported the communist enemy killing Americans in Vietnam. Some of the members in this group, including Dohrn, had traveled to Havana, Cuba, to get instructions from the communists about how to wage their campaign in the United States.

Q: What was Obama’s relationship with Ayers and Dohrn and how close was it?

A: The big question is whether there is a connection between the communist network in Hawaii that included Frank Marshall Davis and the communist network in Chicago that would also come to include Barack Obama. We know that according to the public evidence that Obama launches his political career in Chicago at the home of Bernardine Dohrn and Bill Ayers. Other people who were there include then-state Sen. Alice Palmer and a Dr. Quentin Young. Those two people are almost as significant as Ayers and Dohrn.

We have two reports that state Sen. Palmer had been involved in a Communist Party front group called the U.S Peace Council and had actually made a trip to the old Soviet Union. Dr. Quentin Young had been accused of involvement and membership in the Communist Party, and he refused to answer as well when he was called before a committee to explain his financial support for radicals who were behind the riots in Chicago at the Democratic National Convention back in 1968. So we have got four controversial people launching Obama’s political career in Chicago who were involved in socialist or communist activities.

Q: You are not making the claim that Obama is a communist or a “Manchurian Candidate”-type communist or anything else?

A: We are only raising the questions that the media will not look into. We think the media should examine both candidates. But in the case of Obama, who has only been a U.S. senator for a few years, there is more of a responsibility to inform the public about where he had come from. Remember, as president, he will be entitled to see all of our state secrets. And yet, as a candidate, he doesn’t have to undergo a background or security check. That’s why we depend on the media really to vet these candidates, so the American people can know who they are voting for.

On the question about Obama being a communist or a Marxist, of course we never came to any conclusions about that or offered any evidence one way or the other; that wasn’t our purpose. But it’s important to note that when Obama did run for the Senate in 2004, his opponent at the time, Alan Keyes, had charged that Obama was a Marxist. Obama dismissed it. He almost laughed it off. But he certainly has in my view the responsibility and obligation to explain these associations and why it is that he lands right in the middle of two different communist networks -- one in Hawaii, where he is growing up, and one in Chicago, where he’s launching his political career.

It could be that this is all a coincidence -- that it’s just accidental that he seems to get right in the middle with associations with these anti-American characters. But then again, maybe it’s not an accident. He has to answer some of these concerns and our media have to begin by subjecting him to the scrutiny that they apply to somebody like McCain and other candidates.

Q: Dana Milbank of The Washington Post covered your press conference and wrote a sarcastic piece that said you were engaging in “guilt by association.” What’s your response to that?

A: You know, I asked G. Gordon Liddy when I did his radio show about some of these issues that we are raising. Liddy of course used to be an FBI agent, and he said the FBI would always examine somebody’s associations when they looked at somebody to determine if they were suitable for federal employment. They would look for contacts with foreign countries, foreign individuals, hostile governments and hostile intelligence services. They would look at the question of whether this individual is really loyal to the United States.

We’re asking some of these questions about Obama, and we will continue to ask them, because people like Milbank -- who may not really be a serious journalist -- clearly are not interested. He had made it clear in previous columns that he is a big Obama supporter and there are many like him in the major media, which made our news briefing even more important. We not only have issued our two reports and put them on our Web site, usasurvival.org, but we will be putting up video of the whole press conference so that people can take a look and make their own conclusions and not have to rely on the media to filter what we said.

Q: If you could get Tim Russert on “Meet the Press” to ask Sen. Obama a question about these early influences, what would it be?

A: I think the big question would be, “Why, Sen. Obama, did you cover up the identity of Frank Marshall Davis in your book?” If this had been an innocent association -- if this had just been some guy that Obama came across and realized, “Well, look, he’s just some kind of crazy communist. And, yeah, I had some meeting with him and he gave me advice on various things. But he didn’t have any impact on me. And I went off to college and it had no lasting effect.” That would be one thing.

But that’s not how Obama handled it. Instead he talks about “Frank” as someone who gave him serious advice, including not to believe in the American way of life and that black people had a right to hate white people. These were things according to Obama that Frank told him. Rather than deal with that kind of advice in his book, and analyze the motivations of Frank and identify him by his full name, Obama covers up his true identity. Why?

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Bill Steigerwald, born and raised in Pittsburgh, is a former L.A. Times copy editor and free-lancer who also worked as a docudrama researcher for CBS-TV in Hollywood before becoming a reporter for the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and a columnist Pittsburgh Tribune-Review. Bill Steigerwald recently retired from daily newspaper journalism..
 
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You forgot to mention
Obama was trained by the Alinsky-founded Industrial Areas Foundation (IAF) in Chicago and worked for an affiliate of the Gamaliel Foundation, whose modus operandi for the creation of “a more just and democratic society” is rooted firmly in the Alinsky method. This was taken from the FrontPage article about Obama's so-called "community work" in Chicago. This is an excellent (and scary) article
http://frontpagemag.com/articles/Read.aspx?GUID=D6E27ECE-97 98-4F01-A378-3F1405F69704

Fear of confronting Commies
among Americans goes back to the House Committee on Un-American Activities, which has been demonized in the popular culture.

Perhaps some of the hearings were handled poorly, but that does not mean they were wrong about the network of Marxists who were seeking to undermine the American way of life.

The Lefties have been successful with the "pay no attention to the man behind the curtain" technique they use to deflect any investigation into what they are up to.

Whenever someone pointed out their Soviet sympathies, they would laugh and tell us that we are "looking for commies under every bed."

This is a similar technique to the one used by the abusive husband who beats up his wife, and then tells her it is all in her imagination.

Because of this, people are fearful of pointing out the numerous Marxists who are grabbing up power as fast as they can, for fear they will be painted as nutty conspiracy theorists.

If the Lefties are not involved in anti-American conspiracies, then WHY THE HECK ARE THEY SO PARANIOD ABOUT THE PATRIOT ACT?

I say that this is the reason why they went ballistic about President Bush right about the time the intelligence walls were coming down.

No, the MSM will not vet Obama
So, we have to get as much world out as possible:

See HamNation--Obama telling his adoring audience that when he's pres. they won't be able to eat what they want, drive SUVs, or set their home temps. to 72 either summer or winter.

AND READ HIS BOOKS. LIKE MARX AND HITLER IN THE COMMUNIST MANIFESTO AND MEIN KAMPF, OBAMA IS NOT SHY IN TALKING ABOUT HIS WORLD VIEW.

YOU WANT TO US TO BE CUBA WITH A $12 A MON. INCOME, ROTTING 1950S CARS, AND STARVATION AS A GOV'T POLICY? OMAMA IS YOUR GUY.

Mountain Rose
"If the Lefties are not involved in anti-American conspiracies, then WHY THE HECK ARE THEY SO PARANIOD ABOUT THE PATRIOT ACT?"

I agree.

Likewise: if the Bush Admin is/was not involved with anything nefarious with respect to the Iraq War and its use of intelligence, why not testify under oath?

Also, if you're not hiding drugs in your house, we not let us all have a little look see?

This is classic fascist logic there Mountain Rose.

"If you have nothing to hide, then why not give up all your rights and prove it."

As far back as the fifties...
it was pointed out to me that the aim of the Communists was to infiltrate the USA in key areas: Politics, education, the media, and the clergy.
While we don't dare call them communists anymore, it appears that, by whatever name, they have succeeded in a big way.

Castro
Remember when America just did not realize that Fidel Castro was a communist? In 1959 Castro and his revolutionaries were thought to be regular Cuban liberationist heroes, and then...

Makes me wonder about BHO.

The crazies are out in force!
"AND READ HIS BOOKS. LIKE MARX AND HITLER IN THE COMMUNIST MANIFESTO AND MEIN KAMPF, OBAMA IS NOT SHY IN TALKING ABOUT HIS WORLD VIEW."

Openn about world view = Nazi

Closely held world view = Freedom-Liberty-Loving-Apple-pie-eating A-M-E-R-I-C-A-N!

Terrific.

Why is it that
Repubs like Kinkaid are more interested in drumming up long past associations that may have been in Obama's life a hundred years ago but have no bearing on the man's beliefs presently. In the turbulent sixties and earlier, many black Americans frustrated with an America that did not believe that "all people were created equal" flirted with communist readings and beliefs in a search for true equality.

Kinkaid labels these individuals as anti-Americans which is far from the truth. As civil rights became more of a prize that could be obtained, the flirtation with communism began to subside.

Obama, as many black Americans who are over 40, has been exposed to several types of ideologies that I'm sure he either tossed due to conflicts with his personal positions regarding race, God, and country or accepted as workable solutions, reasonsing and methodologies that could be used to enhance visions for improving an already great sociey.

In November, most Americans will view these tactics from the right as smokescreens to divert the POTUS contest from the real issues: the economy, the war, health insurance, global terrorism, and foreign policy. These issues will remain paramount in the upcoming GE and sidetrack issues such as stated in this article will not be important whatsoever.

Independent Thinker
They have worked long and hard to bring down America just as you have pointed out and I don't believe this nation will be around much longer.
Liberals hate america, always have and Obama is custom made to fit the mold.

LionHeart
You are not listening nor do you care to enlighten yourself by reading the article I referenced in the first post. Read the article and then tell me if he is not using Alinsky's tactics to get elected. The article on FrontPage describes to a tee exactly how Obama is operating and to see the hoardes of puppets he has fooled using these tactics is amazing. Read it. He has been trained as a socialist commie and and that is exactly what we will get if he is elected. Change and hope my arse!

Why is that
Lionheart - Is a more current association more to your liking? Obama repudiates Farrakhan endorsement but still keeps members of Nation of Islam ("Black Muslims") on his campaign staffs. Could this have a "bearing on his beliefs currently"?

"Associate with men of good quality if you esteem your own reputation; for it is better to be alone than in bad company." - George Washington

Bob Barr in 08
Which candidate do you think will address immigration?


Which candidate supports American Conservative policies and platforms?

Vote Bob Barr and bring Conservatism back to America

Barr 08

What is the Obama Marxism?
Marxism in its simplest form is 'Class Warfare'.

What has Obama added to 'Marxism' is black racism.

Obama Marxism is a mixture of 'class warfare' and 'black separatism theology'.

Obama was not nominated for the Democratic candidate in 'spite' of his peculiar brand of Marxism but 'because' of his brand of Marxisim.

Marxists always divide people into groups and then pit those groups against each other.

Obama is the perfect Democrat leader pitting racists against each other - religions against each other - income classes against each other - genders against each other - homo-sexuals against hereto-sexuals - abortionists against pro-life.

The Democrats now have the 'Perfect Obama Storm' to change America into collectivism.

Name One
Please name one influential association that Senator Obama has had which has not been hard left - recent or past. And as the article states if he becomes president, he will have access to all the secrets of this country. The damage he could do is beyond comprehension.

If there is something I am missing, please tell me, but the weak argument that all of these associations are old is sheer nonsense. All of the people who have molded his character are hard left and seem to hate this country and everything it stands for.

Are You Crazy tubbs?
John Mccain Sure isn't the kind of candidate I wanted, and I don't ever expect him to fix immigration without having his arm twisted. But the point is, it may still be possible to do so, and even if it isn't, this is hardly a single issue election. A vote for a third party conservative candidate is a vote for the subtly race baiting walking Marxist disaster B. Hussein Obama.

So if any "Conservative" doesn't wish to deal with reality and swallow the bile to vote for Mccain this time around, then we deserve to lose the culture wars, and we deserve to have our cherished freedom preverted, as our country is transformed into a stagnant socialist basket case!

The very fact that Mccain has such questionable Conservative credentials means that he will always be under pressure to prove them while he is in office. In all likelyhood, that may work to the Conservative movement's advantage.

Before anyone here has any more illusions about punishing the country by allowing that socialist B-HO to get elected, just consider the fact that Canadas universal health care and other social welfare systems are untouchable inspite the fact that they have made such an incredible mess of things in that country. Merely the fact that they were ever percieved to be helpful, or that their intent was to help, has locked them in as an untouchable political orthodoxy!

Obama supporters tend to be those who:

Want to feel good about themselves at the expense of others, or those who want the United States of Daycare as a quasi-parent. Very discouraging.

My colleagues are the first to scream , holler, and strike if we don't get incremental raises and ample time off, but are the first to throw another tax increase onto the backs of the private sector. Most are Obama supporters.


B hussein and those who influences him
It matters not to the left who b hussein claims to be influenced him through his rather sheltered life, the left and the msms has so much invested in him that nothing will defer them in their belief he has been sent to save the world.

With their willingness to reside on the dims plantation and accept the dims agenmda that blacks cannot suceed without the help of govt it is easy to understand why blacks are more suseptible to the teaching of communism.

But just as b hussein uses the hip hop symbol to brush things he doesn't like off his shoulder he thinks the media will continue to provide cover for his empty rhetoric.

B hussein maintains he wants to be president but for whom. Is he running to represent america or is he running to please the 60's radicals with who he has more in common than working folks.

It seems b hussein needed wright and farrakhan to discover his black identity. But what in his life has b hussein done to seek an american identity. It seems seeking and being courted by the radical left has made a bigger impression on him that living in the country that presents the greatest opportunity to find success.

One should ask why does b hussein prefer the company of radicals unless he accepts the idea that america must be punished for their political opposition to the left. But who does b hussein believe in more. Is saul alinsky more important to the thinking of b hussein than upholding the constitution

Reasoned
I assume your concern is the portion of the article you mentioned that refers to “organizing” as a euphemism for “revolution”. The source, FrontPage, appears to be a republican-centered website filled with topics affiliated with the republican ideology. Would you call this a non-partisan article written to present the facts? You think Perazzo’s insinuation through this article that Obama is planning some form of massive revolution is based on something credible? The wiles of interpretation are always within the eyes (and ears) of the beholder. Below is more information regarding Saul Alinsky and his I.A.F.:

Source: http://www.progress.org/archive/alinsky.htm
“..in Michael Sandel's thoughtful Democracy's Discontent, he cited Alinsky and his successors at the Industrial Areas Foundation (I.A.F.) as representing "one of the most promising expressions" of civic participation and noted that, through a national network of community-based organizations, Alinsky's direct descendants are "teach[ing] residents of poor communities how to engage in effective political activity."

Source: http://www.industrialareasfoundation.org/iafabout/about.ht m
“The IAF is non-ideological and strictly non-partisan, but proudly, publicly, and persistently political. The IAF builds a political base within society's rich and complex third sector - the sector of voluntary institutions that includes religious congregations, labor locals, homeowner groups, recovery groups, parents associations, settlement houses, immigrant societies, schools, seminaries, orders of men and women religious, and others. And then the leaders use that base to compete at times, to confront at times, and to cooperate at times with leaders in the public and private sectors.”

If Obama and his community organizers practiced the above as means to aid a poverty stricken community, what is the problem?

Isaac
I agree whole heartedly. McCain is not my choice either but let's at least get him in there and start building the Republican party back to the conservative party it's suppose to be!

Patriotic
"Lionheart - Is a more current association more to your liking? Obama repudiates Farrakhan endorsement but still keeps members of Nation of Islam ("Black Muslims") on his campaign staffs. Could this have a "bearing on his beliefs currently"?"

You do have sources for your allegation, I assume. Would appreciate you sharing, if you do.

The MSM Investigation into "osama" obama
Prior to the 2004 dnc convention it was announced that "osama" obama would be the keynote speaker. There can be no honest doubt that the MSM began and immediate investigation into the background o "osama" obama.

However, the information gained from this investigation was not used to inform the American public about the extreme leftist views of obama. Instead, the MSM began an immediate cover up. Instead of informing the public of the outrageous comments that came from obama's church, the MSM made no comments. Compare this act to what transpired when President Bush made a single speech at Bob Jones University.

When the Conservative internet bloggers began to uncover more and more of these extreme leftist "associates" and advisors, it was not obama that came under their harsh criticism, it was those who uncovered the truth.

When obama entered the dnc primary, the MSM immediately selected him to not only be the nominee for the dnc, but the next President. They had learned from the fiasco of dannyboy of rathergate infamy and "circled their wagons" to protect obama in any and every way possible. The MSM is determined not to loose this election to the American people. They are determined that their "anointed one" will win, one way or another.

cactus lover
"With their willingness to reside on the dims plantation and accept the dims agenmda that blacks cannot suceed without the help of govt it is easy to understand why blacks are more suseptible to the teaching of communism."

How many communist blacks do you know? And more important, how many black Americans do you know that could not succeed without the help of government? And what has government done that causes blacks to feel that they cannot succeed witout its help? By your statements, I assume that you personally know quite a few out of 38 million. I'll be waiting for your answer.



Obama,Davis,Alinski,etal.
The press have no interest in Obama's neo-com friends and mentors.They have turned a blind eye to all things negative about this con man.

The left has always had an infatuation with Communists and their governments.Even evil dictators.The leftist press are no exception.

The press will welcome the slide to socialism/communism/marxism.They will only regret same when their freedoms are lost.They are a necessary evil.

lionheart
your statements prove a lack of understanding of socialism and communism. Any who readily accept handouts from the govt in order to survive lacks a true belief in capitolism.

It is not a situation of knowing but reading statistics that lead to this conclusion. If blacks weren't susceptible than why the need for public housing and welfare.

But this is also true of poor whites who also live on the public dole as well.

But then both groups tend to make up the backbone of the dim party. But it is still a mystery why some can find the wherewithal to make somethin of themselves while many millions can leave the public teat.

But the dims continue to patronize the poor with no plkans to change anything. B hussein talks of growing the entitlement plantation. If he believed in capitolism he wopuld talk of weaning the poor off handouts. But in b hussein's world thosew working are only a means to provide additional taxes to pay for his view of a socialist.communist nirvana.

pathetic....
wow.. you dont get out much do you... commies? even the commies are not commies any more... go back to the cold war.. dont pass go.. dont collect any money.. but see if you can spot a brain somewhere... you need one...

tubbs: You mean ACLU Barr?

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2027550/posts

And, any vote for Bob Barr is a de facto vote for B. Hussein Obama...



levi
You must understand, the average TH poster is the following:

1. old
2. older
3. oldest
4. retired (see 1, 2, and 3)
5. lacking anything to do other than waxing nostalgic about the good old days, when the US of A wasn't such a crap-hole filled with socialist/secular/commies/envirowackos.

If you don't believe me, wait until a "columnist" puts up something about "Hollyweird." You'll see: 9 out of 10 posters haven't been to a movie since Gone with the Wind.

what more can we ask for
communist,full blown racist,hates america,has militant racist wife,cannott walk and chew gum at the same time,best friends with terrorists,got everthing in his life from felons,racists,terrorists oh and lets not forget the free college from the america he hates. i would have to say this is the guy we want running the country. i have to go vomit now!!!this guy is filthy,racist,foul vermin!!!

america (left)wants it
communist,full blown racist,hates america,has militant racist wife,cannott walk and chew gum at the same time,best friends with terrorists,got everthing in his life from felons,racists,terrorists oh and lets not forget the free college from the america he hates. i would have to say this is the guy we want running the country. i have to go vomit now!!!this guy is filthy,racist,foul vermin!!!

.....
-----even the commies are not commies any more...----

Riiiight. And liberals aren't liberals anymore, they're progressives [more like regressives]. Listen moron, the liberal miscreants have fully embraced the communist philosophy, they’re just too stupid to realize it. Last week the dumbest woman in America, Maxine Waters, threatened to nationalize the oil companies. Spoken like a proud communist, or fascist.

The Great Satan
They can call themselves any name that pleases them. I call them anti-American.

Lionheart?
You still don't get it. FrontPage is a republican centered website but the article was written to expose people like Obama and the tactics that he is using to get himself elected.
"That Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama share an Alinskyite background tells us two things. First, they are leftists, dedicated to overthrowing our Constitutional system. Second, they will go to any length to conceal their radicalism from the public."
“Alinsky viewed revolution as a slow, patient process. The trick was to penetrate existing institutions such as churches, unions and political parties.” Alinsky advised organizers and their disciples to quietly, subtly gain influence within the decision-making ranks of these institutions, and to introduce changes from that platform. This was precisely the tactic of “infiltration” advocated by Lenin and Stalin." Sound familiar, just like all those good things they talk about on the IAF website that they are doing. It's a ruse to make you believe they are doing something good and they have their finger in your nose dragging you along with all the other puppets!



Rowly
They are indeed anti-American. I would go so far as to say our islamist enemies respect the US more than leftists do.


Vet Obama
I'm still waiting for the mainstream media and Obama's disciples to actually vet the candidate himself. Though I think looking at his inner circle only makes sense, I'm pessimistic that the MSM will ever get to that point for a man they seem to be bent on putting in the Oval Office. I vetted the nanny for my toddler better than these people are vetting the frontrunner for the office of the President.

No hope
I guess I shouldn't be surprised. All the statistics say that the Republican party attracts the lower class/less education people. Otherwise, how can anyone explain the appaling ignorance and abysmal thought process of the people who lurk in here.
You all tend to throw around terms such as socialists and communists without any idea of what they mean. You have a very sick idea of what the ideals of the founding fathers were, and how they apply to today's reality. You think that somehow America did great, with pioneers battling Indians with one hand and inventing the stock exchange on the other. Anyone who is poor, well, it's his own fault, and god forbid that the rich people should have to fork over some of their money to help others. Why, that's barefaced communism.
And Obama of course is a communist. I guess, that's at the same time he was so friendly with the pastor in a Christian church.
Oh, wait; I forgot. Black churches = Marxist dens of iniquity; only WHITE churches are good. After all, blacks are susseptible to communism, otherwise why would they ask the government for handouts.
Not a single thought about the robber baron tactics of the Bush administration, with a huge transfer of wealth to the richest 1% of the country. No mention of the repeated efforts of Bush and Cheney to destry the liberties conferred to all by the Constitution.
You and McCain deserve each other.

Obama’s leftist friends

Excellent article on Cliff Kincaid!

Here are several more articles on Obama’s leftist friends:

In Obama’s book Dreams From My Father, he wrote of his college days at Occidental College in Los Angeles: “To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists and punk-rock performance poets.”

Guy Benson’s articles at TownHall on Obama are insightful, as Benson is a DJ in Chicago.

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/Column2.aspx?UrlTitle=be ware_obamas_bus&ns=GuyBenson&dt=05/25/2008&submitted=true&c omments=true#comments

John Fund of the Wall Street Journal tells us that Syrian Tony Rezko travelled 26 times to Syria between 2002 and 2006. Syria is on the U.S. list of terrorist countries. John Fund’s excellent article on Obama and Tony Rezko regarding the land deal between Obama and Mrs. Rezko when Obama bought his house in Chicago:

“The London Times reports that, three weeks before the land transactions, Nadhmi Auchi, an Iraqi billionaire living in London, loaned $3.5 million to Mr. Rezko, who was his Chicago business partner.”

“Mr. Auchi was also a top official in the Iraqi oil ministry in the 1970s. He has for years vigorously denied charges he had dealings with Saddam Hussein after the first Gulf War. However, an official report to the Pentagon inspector general in 2004 obtained by the Washington Times cited "significant and credible evidence" of involvement by Mr. Auchi's companies in the Oil for Food scandal and illicit smuggling of weapons to the Hussein regime.”

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120450564143806509.html

OBAMA'S VOTING RECORD SHOUTS SOCIALIST
Obama's voting record is to the left of registered Socialist Senator Bernie Sanders.

1)That is proof that he is a socialist.

Combined with his radical associations,

2) the only valid conclusion is that OBAMA is a RADICAL/SOCIALIST, who for 20 years belonged to a CHURCH THAT PREACHED AN ANTI-WHITE DOCTRINE.

These are facts and are not refutable.

If the bloggers, columnists, talk show hosts, etc. keep repeating these 2 or 3 irrefutable facts, the folks will figure out for themselves what OBAMA really is.


AlphaOmega
Oh,no !! You've figured us out!!What to do? What to do?

While you are figurine out the Republicans,maybe you should look at what the Democrats will not only tolerate,but welcome.

First,look in the mirror.They accept you? That says a lot right there.You accept Obama as your leader? Now that really questions your thought process.

I surmise,by the time Obama is really uncovered,if that does happen,even you will be able to see him for what he is. GW Bush will look good,even to you.

How long will you and others make excuses for his stumbles,gaffes and outright lies? If he is able to stay out of jail until November,you may have your Stalinist/Communist/Socialist/Marxist leader.

Call him whatever you like,his changes are not to make this country better.It is to make us a 'Third World Country' subserviant to the United Nations.


DEAR Lionheart:
Here's just one for you (there are others):

http://debbieschlussel.com/archives/2008/01/obamas_nation_ o.html


AlphaOmega
And just why do you EXPECT people who make good money to just give it to someone who doesn't feel like they need to work? And don't hand me that CRAP about minorities and "the Poor" who have no way out of their life situations. That is plain BS! EVERY SINGLE INDIVIDUAL born in this country has the SAME opportunity to make a good life for him/herself. If that child is raised to believe the world owes him a living (Democrat) then that is exactly what they grow up expecting. This past weekend, I sat with a friend who just happens to be a life-long Democrat. The whole time I was there, he's whining about being laid off, whining because his economic stimulus payment "wasn't enough", and whining because after being on unemployment for the past 26 weeks he now has to actually go for a job interview! He pays NO taxes and yet its all GWB's fault his life is so bad. This man is fully capable of working yet if someone doesn't offer him the job HE wants to do, at the pay HE wants then somehow, somewhere,someone else is to blame. The major difference between Dems and Republicans is that Dems believe everyone else should support the life-style they want to live, and Republicans believe "you get what you put in, and people get what they deserve!"

Alinsky: "The end justifies the means."
Relatively little was made of the fact that Sen.Kennedy sent a liaison to make contact with Soviet Premier Yuri Andropov in the run-up to the 1980 presidential election. Teddy figured he could unseat Carter and, was already laying the groundwork for taking on Reagan in the General election.

Komarade Kennedy invited Andropov to appear on CBS' "60 Minutes" (with the blessing of CBS Execs? You make the call) so's Yuri could assure the American people that it was Ronald Reagan who was the actual "threat to world peace" and, a "madman".
Andropov was also going to let the American viewing audience know that the Soviet Union was actually our "greatest friend" and, that he, Yuri Andropov & the boys at the KGB were just "fun-loving guys who liked a good joke once in a while"!!
**Keep in mind, this was taking place while the Soviets were carrying out their invasion of and, war in Afghanistan.

That BIG Media (at least CBS?) remained silent about all this should tell anyone with half a brain that there will be no vetting of Obama The Wonderful by BIG Media today.

It should also tell them that there is still a BIG Communist/Marxist/Socialist influence in Barak Hussein Obama's orbit.
Because treason has no statute of limitations it is easy to understand why there will be little said by Komrade "Puppet-Massa" Kennedy about something so important.

And sadly, given the events of the past week or so, Teddy K can now just say "I don't remember any of that" and who are we to argue.

W/O=

Opinion Alert!
The expression of unfavorable opinions or any questions concerning the qualifications of His Obamaship has previously been prohibited as racist.

You have been advised of this policy previously!

Cease and desist immediately! Disperse and return to your little homes!

This is your final warning!

Your Obedient Servant,

George Washington

Patriotic
Thanks for providing the link but I do not see a major conflict as you do. The people that's mentioned in the link do not work on Obama's presidential campaign but according to the source, has worked (or currently works) for his Senate campaign.

Since America is built upon not discriminating against an individual because of religious preference, any qualified individual should be able to work in any area desired. We have several religions represented in the company I work for (over 6,000 employees) and while everyone's religious preference is respected, no one is compelled to accept the beliefs of either.

Also, I question the validity of the unnamed "source" who is providing all the information. This person is suppose to be an "insider" but I doubt that very much. The whole article appears to be in the business of mudslinging based on "he said-she said" with very few straight facts that can pinpointed.

Nice try, though, my friend.

LionHeart
So you refute that one article, but does the pattern of Obama's associates not bother you at all? Ayers, Wright, Farrakan, Davis etc.

His supporters seem to be willing to do anything to ignore these as ancient history or the like, but number one, some of them aren't history at all and the ONLY reason he disassociated himself from them is because he is running for president, and two, even if they are from his history, are you suggesting that should be ignored in measuring him as a man?


cactus lover
"If blacks weren't susceptible than why the need for public housing and welfare. But this is also true of poor whites who also live on the public dole as well."

As you stated, your knowledge comes from statistics only that cons usually bring up because the percentage of blacks receiving assistance (vs the black population) outnumber the percentage of whites on assistance (vs the white population). Stats can be manipulated to the advantage of the presenter. Try these stats from the US Dept of Health and Human Servics:

http://www.acf.hhs.gov//programs/ofa/character/FY2000/analy sis.htm
PERCENT DISTRIBUTION OF TANF FAMILIES BY ETHNICITY/RACE

FY 1999/2000
Total Families = 2,269,131
White 31.2%
Black 38.6%
Hisp 25.0%
All Others 4.4%

FY 2005/2006
Total Families = 1,802,567
White 33.1%
Black 35.7%
Hisp 26.1%
All Others 3.4%

When you look at the total number of families in poverty, the percentages for white and black are very similar.

"But then both groups [black & white]tend to make up the backbone of the dim party."

Another untrue. The 1.8 million figure in 2006 represents children and adults, nationwide. We have that many registered Democratic voters in the North Texas alone. The fact is that many of our poorest citizens are not registered to vote.

"But it is still a mystery why some can find the wherewithal to make somethin of themselves while many millions can leave the public teat."

The question should not be why "some" are able to make something of themselves but why "most" are able to. Again, there are 38 million black Americans but your concentration is on the few who have not yet figured out how to play the game. Additionally, these few have more obstacles in their way than poor whites but that's another subject, too.




Reasoned and Rowly also!
Hang in there! The word is getting out and you can see by the quick "response" by a few posters that they are scared to death of being outed and that their cover will be exposed. Notice how quickly they have their responses ready because they work under cover and fresh air can be deadly to these creeps.
Rat them out. Alinskys IAF is still training and "organizing" and are a bunch of parasites preying on church communities and truly infiltrating to gain political power by creating divisions among the people. I know what I'm talking about, from personal experience.

Their Cloak of morality??????? An empty suit. We need to show just how naked this emporer really is.

LIONHEART
So if a "white power" World Church of the Creator (WCOTC) devotee were on Sen McCain's senate staff, you and the MSM would have no problem with that? Highly doubtful. But it's OK if a Farrakhan devotee is on BO's senate staff?

THE SCARY OBAMA WINS BY DEFAULT!
IT YOU BELIEVE OBAMA HAS NOT BEEN ADVERSELY
AFFECTED BY REV.,WRIGHTS ANTI-AMERICA/WHITE
INFLUENCIAL PREACHING, FOR 20 YEARS, LET ME SELL YOU THE BROOKLYN BRIDGE! HIS PAST CLOSE TIES WITH ENEMIES OF OUR COUNTRY AND MICHELLES SELF-PITYING WORDS/ATTITUDE ETC., ARE TELLING! OBAMA WORSHIPERS DON'T CARE, BECAUSE THEY ARE SMITTEN AND BEGUILED BY THE ILLUSIONIST OBAMA AND ONLY BELIEVE WHAT THEY WANT TO BELIEVE! GOD HELP US! DISILLUSIONED DEMOCRAT

Security Clearance
QUESTION: Does the President have to undergo the same investigation that other citizens must endure to obtain a Security Clearance?

Having held a clearance at one time, it appears that based on his past associations, Mr. Obama might have trouble qualifying for anything above a CONFIDENTAIL clearance. This wouild make it rather difficult to execute his duties as President.

As for the Media looking into Mr. Obama's socialist connections, why would they? Statistics prove that our MSM is the second most left leaning group in the country, right after higher education acedemia. These Obama leftist associations make him even more of a hero to the CNN's, CBS's, NPR's, etc.
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