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Tuesday, October 09, 2007
Bill Steigerwald :: Townhall.com Columnist
Welcome to the Nanny State-- An Interview
by Bill Steigerwald
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With his book “Nanny State,” Denver Post columnist David Harsanyi has thrown a conservative-libertarian rope around a disturbing political and cultural trend -- the nannification of America by moral busybodies and nitpicking maternalists who use government power to micromanage our personal lives and protect us from ourselves. Whether it’s outlawing trans fats in New York City or tag on school playgrounds, Harsanyi says the “nannyists” among us are not only creating a new culture of dependency on government but also eroding what’s left of our individual freedoms. I talked to the author of “Nanny State: How Food Fascists, Teetotaling Do-Gooders, Priggish Moralists, and Other Boneheaded Bureaucrats Are Turning American Into a Nation of Children” by phone from his offices in Denver.

Q: What’s “Nanny State” about?

A: It’s about the difference between coercing someone to do the right thing and convincing them to do the right thing. In the Nanny State, we coerce them -- or the government does, at least. All these intrusions -- what we eat, what we smoke, what we watch -- one by one they don’t seem like they are much. But when you bundle them together, you have a movement, and a movement that undermines our freedoms. That’s what the book’s about.

Q: Do most people know exactly what you are talking about when you mention "the Nanny State"?

A: I think people who pay attention to politics do know what we’re talking about. I’m not sure the everyday Joe does. That’s why I have a very long subtitle -- to make it clear that it’s not a book about child care.

Q: Who’s responsible for this Nanny State -- liberals, conservatives, Jane Fonda, Jerry Falwell?

A: All of the above. I would say that the left typically believes that government can make us better people and protect us from all the vagaries of life. On the right, at least rhetorically, we hear a lot about individual freedom. But in the past few years, and maybe it’s compassionate conservatism, we see the Republican Party coddling adults as well and buying into the Nanny State. It’s still not as bad as the liberals, but bad enough. But there are many different kinds of people involved in the Nanny State and it’s driven by all kinds of concerns -- hyper-risk-aversion and political correctness are also part of it. It’s not like you can pin it down to one or two types of people. It’s a bunch of people.

Q: It’s become federalized -- it’s enforced at all levels of government?

A: These ideas usually are hatched in city councils. The nannyistic endeavors of the federal government are not written about much in this book. I concentrate on local stuff. But yes, whenever we have collective health care, for instance, and all of a sudden we are responsible for each other, that just helps grow the Nanny State.

Q: What are some of your favorite examples of "Nanny State"-ism?

A: These are fun, not serious, for the most part: In New York there was a councilwoman who wanted to ban dangerously sized candy. In Chicago -- and I believe in all of Illinois -- they banned a certain kind of yo-yo because one child almost choked or hung himself, which doesn’t sound too funny; it was funnier when I wrote it, I guess. In Florida there are actually playgrounds that have “No Running” signs. These are things that just make you shake your head. In other places we have people who are advocating for regulations on food portions. So they count out the calories in a restaurant and tell you how much you could eat. And zero-tolerance laws where you can’t have a glass of wine and drive.

Q: Why did you feel you had to write this book?

A: Heh, heh, because they bought it from me -- no. Nannyistic laws are coming down every day. I think even liberals sometimes are annoyed by the paternalistic aspects of government on that level. But again, I just don’t think that people viewed it as a movement that was encompassing the whole country. I was surprised there wasn’t a mainstream book about nannyism. I thought I could bring it together and whoever decided to read the book could understand better how dangerous this movement is.

Q: What people or what agencies are the chief practitioners of nannyism?

A: There’s a process to the whole thing. It starts with activist groups like Mothers Against Drunk Driving or the Center for Science in the Public Interest and they try to scare the living daylights out of everyone. Sadly, the Centers for Disease Control has also gotten into the act. They released a so-called study that claimed that 400,000 people died from obesity each year. This was quickly debunked. But the original story had run in every newspaper in the country – “Fat is killing us.” But the corrected number hardly ran anywhere and certainly didn’t have the prominence the other stories did. It sort of softens up the American public. You know, like these bogus secondhand-smoke studies that essentially tell you that you can have worse things happen to you from secondhand smoke than actually smoking for 20 years. These things soften up the American people for the city councilman to come in and ban smoking in your home, which they’ve just done in Belmont, California.

Q: Do you take issue with things like motorcycle helmet laws and seatbelt laws, which are sort of the beginnings of the Nanny State?

A: Yes, I do. I realize the motivation behind seatbelt and helmet laws. It was the first major initiative that told people you are too stupid to take care of yourself and even if you are hurting no one else, we’ve decided you must wear seatbelts and must wear helmets.

Tucker Carlson says in the back of the book that once you can force someone to put a seatbelt on, you can force them to do anything. I go into this at length in the book. I’m not against someone wearing a seat belt, because obviously it’s for self-preservation. I don’t put a seat belt on my kids or myself because I care about some $50 fine. I do it because I care about myself. And clearly, I think that most Americans do, and the ones who don’t, don’t care about the law anyway. That’s why I think seatbelt laws are irrelevant.

Q: Is this whole petty Nanny State thing a European thing, a socialist thing? Continued...

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About The Author
Bill Steigerwald, born and raised in Pittsburgh, is a former L.A. Times copy editor and free-lancer who also worked as a docudrama researcher for CBS-TV in Hollywood before becoming a reporter for the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and a columnist Pittsburgh Tribune-Review. Bill Steigerwald recently retired from daily newspaper journalism..
 
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Only solution to the nanny state----
George Washington famously said that our form of government was not designed to survive the overthrow of moral principles in our society derived from faith in God and his principles of living (or words to that effect). The nanny state is the result of our government having to create a system of micro-management type laws to take the place of the people's now nearly non-existent religiously derived INTERNAL moral motive and principles. There is no deliverance from this creeping form of socialist slavery short of praying down an enormous religious reformation like that of the nineteenth century known as "The Second Great Awakening.” You’ve probably heard it said that the only way out is up. Never more true than today. For more information on what this would be like, please take a look at "The Memoirs of Charles G. Finney.”

Hey By The Water
Not sure what your point is about the right not believing in sexual freedom and people having lifestyles that cause them to get AIDS, etc.

How does one go from conservatives not approving of a homosexual (or even promiscuous) lifestyle to those people contracting diseases? What laws are in place that prevent homosexuals or others to get condoms to prevent the spread of diseases. Last I checked, I can walk into any drug store and buy them--they are right out in the open.
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