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Tuesday, August 14, 2007
Bill Murchison :: Townhall.com Columnist
A Farewell To Rove
by Bill Murchison
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What? Karl Rove leaving the George Bush White House? I read the words; I can't digest them. Going home to Texas to write a book and, not only that, leaving politics altogether? So he announces. We'll see.

One thing we'll see soon enough is what object of derogation the Democrats fix on in the future to explain (to themselves as much as to the voters) their inability these past six years to control the political agenda. Dick Cheney, Alberto Gonzales, Don Rumsfeld, Bush himself, of course -- the list of villains will shrink only marginally with Rove's departure.

Always Rove was the No. 1 bad guy; the puppet master sitting in the shadows, pulling the strings while the president danced; "Bush's Brain," as a book title about the Bush-Rove relationship had it. In the political theater known as Washington, there's always a mustache-twirling villain, not to mention a square-jawed hero riding to the rescue. Guess how Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid and, of course, the Democratic presidential field, apportion these crucial roles.

I've got some news. For all his sometimes irritating sense of mastery and entitlement, for all his mistakes -- a common commodity in human affairs -- Karl Rove no more plotted and planned a path to the Bush ascendancy than Woody Austin contrived to facilitate Tiger Woods' newest PGA title.

Ah, Sen. Reid, and you, too, Ms. Pelosi, and Sen. Obama, Sen. Clinton and the rest of you -- can't you, won't you understand that the past six and a half years have been less about plotting than about Team Bush's not-always-pitch-perfect-but-still-pretty-good understanding of public mood, public needs?

Iraq confuses the picture. Iraq, 2007, makes Bush seem less the confident commander than the bumbling subaltern, tripping over his scabbard. Reid-Pelosi-Obama-Clinton Democrats assume nothing more was indicated after 9/11 than chasing the Taliban out of Afghanistan. The Bush team, perceiving a pan-Middle Eastern dimension to the challenge of organized terror, engineered a broad response whose effects -- if we're honest enough to admit it -- may not be known fully for years.

Nor is it logical for Democrats to assume voter indifference to the consequences of an American defeat in Iraq -- the defeat their get-out-now policies would effectuate. Can't you hear them stalking the country next year, beating their chests and bragging, "We lost the war!"

On the domestic front, Bush-Rove Republicans are far more in touch with non-transient moods and needs than the media and the "netroots" are willing to acknowledge. "Compassionate conservatism" -- a problematical program on account of the public role it assumed for "faith-based" organizations -- never really got off the ground, but expressed a widespread sense of the dissatisfaction with purely political solutions to human needs.

The administration was on surer ground with the large, overdue tax cuts it engineered -- cuts that fattened family bank accounts and ginned up the economy, while narrowing, yes, narrowing, the federal deficit. Reid-Pelosi-Obama-Clinton Democrats can't wait, apparently, to give the federal government a larger share of the national income.

The past half-decade has been a clamorous one -- voices of all kinds crying out in all places (especially those enabled by computer technology) for this, for that, for the other, with politicians left to sort it all out.

No politician gets it right all the time, perhaps even a tenth of the time in this age when politicians -- woe and alas! -- imagine we want them to do everything for us. That would certainly include "Bush's Brain," Karl Rove. It would include Bush himself and everyone around him.

It's an imperfect world. Got that? If so, you're ahead of most political figures when they're standing at the mic or raising money over the phone. Karl Rove, good as he is (and that's mighty good), is no model of strategic perfection. I have just a charitable hunch that he himself, after all those years next to the political helm, knows better than before the limitations of mere power.

Maybe he'll explain in the book he means to write and I mean, with seriousness and rapt attention, to read the minute it emerges.

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Perplexed
I could never understand the loathing of Rove. He helped to "moderate" W's positions to such an extent that he almost lost to two far-left Dems. He helped craft Bush's disastrous amnesty position and Medicare plan that cost him the support of many conservatives, which is why his poll numbers are so low (he could never get above 50% except in rare circumstances like right after 9/11 and the invasions of Afg. and Iraq). Now that Bush is about to leave office, we have no one to bear the banner of conservatism to a general public that thinks Bush is a real conservative. The Dems should thank Rove for his service to their cause.

Rove
I agree no one gets it right all of the time but some of Rove's advice wasn't so good. Immigration, not enough veto's, etc. As to his leaving politics, I doubt it. We'll see. gonna be interesting to see who replaces him.

Amen, Lestat
Rove was simply the goat for Bush's bent toward liberalism, as we saw in scamnesty, Prescrips for Seniors, No Child or Illegal Left Behind, the refusal to build the fence, the refusal to profile at airports (or fire Clintonista Norm Minetta), the nomination of Harriet Meiers, the refusal to veto damned near ANYTHING, the absurdly out of control spending that's ratcheted up on Bush's watch, the downturn in border enforcement from Clinton's era by over 35%, the imprisonment of Ramos and Campion, and on and on and on.

The guy's a disaster, and I can hardly wait for Jan 2009, to say to Jorge Bush "Hasta la vista, schmuck, and never leave Crawford again!"

ROVE
Karl and his idiotic advices. Best choice from a few candidates? Maybe. But never a good adviser. Too bad.

Warren Small
Your unprovoked insults of George W. Bush remind me of someone who hasn't had their raw meat yet this morning. The story of Rove's resignation seemd to provoke your animal anger and that Mr. Bush doesn't have his own mind - methinks you doth protest too much. Do not be so confident of the downfall of the Republicans. And, do not forget that George W. Bush, the Democrat's favorite whipping boy, is not running for President in '08, that paragon of virtue, Hillary Clinton, will no doubt be the sitting target the Republicans will have no difficulty hitting during the campaign. Are you sure you want her to be the candidate? This woman is a sure loser. And, the Democrats know it.

@uwcharlie
Hear, hear. Warren is a small man. Blaming Katrina on Bush? That is the first give-away that Warren is shallower than them all. Bush has been, in many ways, an amazing president (the state of the economy being his greatest achievement). In other ways, he has had terrible policies. 'Course, the terrible ones are the ones where he steered left (as has been mentioned above).

I always have to laugh when Leftists complain about things like out-of-control spending during the last 6 years given that they invented the concept. Nothing like the pot calling the kettle black.



Democrats have demonized
everyone in the Bush administration up to Bush himself. This has been their strategy in place of real ideas and proposals. The hate and venom streaming forth from the left has been crippling and led directly to the dislike and lack of confidence by Americans in all politicians.

Democrats blame the division in this country on the Bush Administration but their own content empty strategy is the result and the history books will so record it.

Karl Rove
Is a terminal politician. He is just taking a little break before he goes to work for Mitt Romney or Fred Thompson. For the next 1 and ½ years, Liberals will have to find someone else to direct their Pre-School Level Hissy Fits at.

BTW, did anybody see the snide comments from Mr. Elizabeth Edwards and Schmuck Schumer regarding Rove’s departure? Two more Liberal, Girly Men heard from.

fuming, yet laughing
Murchison opines: "Iraq confuses the picture. Iraq, 2007, makes Bush seem less the confident commander than the bumbling subaltern, tripping over his scabbard."

Oh, boy. First of all, your thesaurus has hundred of pages. Try another one.

Secondly, this multi-multi-billion-dollar, criminal, murderous war "confuses the picture"?!? Seems to me 70% of America isn't confused at all.

And Reid-Pelosi-Obama-Clinton are absolutely correct that nothing was implied after 9-11 except to chase the Taliban from Afghanistan. But that didn't happen, OBL is a free man, and our enemies are currently having a teaparty in Musharaff's back yard while Bush is clearing brush! I see no confused picture; just blatant lies and fatal mistakes.

Good Riddance!
Bush is the puppet who strings are pulled by Rummy, Cheney and Rove. All three sold us down the tubes in corporate interests.

aspacia
You wrote "

Bush is the puppet who strings are pulled by Rummy, Cheney and Rove. All three sold us down the tubes in corporate interests.
Talk about a puppet,
4.6% unemployment, (down the tubes). Record revenue to the federal government, (down the tubes). Record home ownership (down the tubes). Record stock market without inflation (down the tubes).
If that is going "down the tubes", I'll take that ride....thank you!

Georgetown Is Right
Who Will Be The Highest Bidder? Whoever the Bush League Bunch decides should be the loser to Clinton. Jeb is supposed to be the next loser to win for the entitled Bumble Clan. Georgetown is right, Rove is like the Eveready Bunny. However, he will be working for the Bush Leaguers, whoever's payroll he may be 'on'.
A stopgap Dole-type will be foisted upon Republicans. That is the planned scenario. But Duncan Hunter, only, can beat the Democratic nominee. Duncan Hunter is a straight shooter. Duncan Hunter walks the walk.

Dubya is having a lobotomy!
So not only did Dubya have a colonscopy it looks like he's having a lobotomy too! What will the poor dear do without Karl Strangelove calling the shots??? I almost half expected Dubya to yell out during a press conference "PAY NO ATTENTION TO THE MAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN!"

I'll be big enough to give Karl some credit--he took a drunken coke addicted idiot and made him president of the United States. Heck even Harry Potter couldn't do that by waving his magic wand. Now that's what I call MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!!!


Stand up
for what's right.

True conservatives who are stand up people don't listen to or follow people like Rove and Coulter.

God-fearing, good and decent Americans don't lower themselves to these peoples' level. They're bad for the country, period. Start acting like decent Christian people, instead of lowering yourselves into the filth that is the domain of Rove and Coulter.

What planet.........?
Mr. Murchison seems to have arrived here recently from an extraterrestrial vacation or returned from an exceptionally lengthy out-of-body experience.

First, the Democratic Congress cannot possibly "lose" the Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld war in Iraq, because it was lost 3 (possibly even 4) years ago by Don Rumsfeld, Tommy Franks, and Paul Bremer. What Congress could do would be to mercifully pull the plug on a long-since brain-dead patient.

Second, does Mr. Murchison not remember how the Federal budget went from a state of surplus in the spring (oh, happy lost springtime!) of 2001 to a state of deficit to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars annually? Granted, some of that came about as a result of the attacks of 9/11 and the quite appropriate assault on the Taliban. Nevertheless, had the Administration not had such a hardon for tax cuts benefiting chiefly wealthier Americans, the treasury could have absorbed more of those unforeseen costs with less agony.

Wake up, sir. Order a few old newspapers and magazines. I'm sure you'll be able to catch up with the rest of the class in no time.

what solar system daddyhill?
You need to get back into our own solar system, daddy-o. Tax revenues (repeat: R-E-V-E-N-U-E-S) to the federal government are at record levels. Bush did NOT cut taxes, he cut tax RATES, thus jumpstarting the economy after the Clinton-dotcom recession and 9/11. Furthermore, he made the income tax code even more progressive: more people on the low end got knocked off the tax rolls (such that almost 50% of Americans now pay no or virtually no income tax at all) and the rich pay a HIGHER share of taxes.

Your breathtaking ignorance of basic economics is on par with that of all liberals and most Americans.

Joe sixpack
"Start acting like decent Christian people, instead of lowering yourselves into the filth that is the domain of Rove and Coulter."

Joe, Coulter I'll give you, but the "filth that is the domain of Rove" is none other than the Bush Administration itself, the disastrous handling of the War on Terror such that Al Qaeda is alive and well in the hills of Pakistan, the failed promises of an already fatally flawed Immigration reform plan, an undeniable growing division between partisans after two elections worth of promises to unite, the squandering of the largest surplus we've ever had, the ruining of the American reputation around the world, should I go on?

Most conservatives, and much of the GOP, are busy this day fancifully reminiscing about their hero, the architect of the biggest joke political career of our generation.

So the comparison of Rove to Coulter is welcome and apt in my mind; unfortunately your fellow cons aren't so levelheaded.

Rove and Coulter
Let's see...

Coulter: Brilliant columnist
Rove: Brilliant political strategist

Coulter: Brilliant Conservative
Rove: Brilliant Moderate

Coulter: Brilliant legal mind
Rove: Brilliant deal maker

Coulter: Brillian at whipping up the Left
Rove: Brillian at beating the left.

So yes, I guess the two have one thing in common.



@Warren
Can you inform us as to whether you complained so bitterly about the unchallenged king of cronyism, Bill Clinton?

Did you complain about Bill's PROVEN corruption (as opposed to the completely UNPROVEN charge of corruption against Bush).

As for FEMA, it is a last responder so who cares about their role in Katrina? FEMA is a mop up department, nothing more. The first responders screwed up and we all know this. Next time, gain some credibility by complaining about something that actually matters, like getting rid of the corrupt Democrat stranglehold on NOLA politics.




Wake up Daddyhill
I love it when someone so ignorant of economics and tax policy as Daddyhill apparently is (unless he is just being mendacious) says something like:

"I'm sure you'll be able to catch up with the rest of the class in no time."

It's one thing to be condescending if you are right, but only a simpleton would end such phony-baloney post with that line.

Besides the obvious fallaciousness of his statements regarding the "wealthy" there is another truism that relates to the way deficits are built that Daddyhill seems to miss.

Remember, Congress always spends more than it brings in regardless of whether revenues are up or down. Typically this is around a 1:1.25 ratio. As Bush's tax cuts have generated more revenue for the government, you can easily do a little math and see why the deficits usually increase when revenues go up.

Ironically, tax receipts have been so unexpectedly high of late that even Congress has not been able to over-spend as it is used to. No doubt the Democrats will rectify that situation as we go forward. Not only will they go on a spending spree that will make the Republican majority of yore look like penny-pinchers but if they manage to increase the tax burden on the producers in our society, they will pretty much guarantee that the economy will start tanking. If the GOP is smart they will point out the folly of Democrat economics at every turn during the campaign season.


Sure....
Sure, Rove is retiring to spend more time with his family.

And there really is a Santa Claus, Virginia!

would that make you a cow?
Poor Guy, Rove is going back to Texas.

When she was about 5 years old, my daughter asked me, “Since I was born in Dallas, does that make me a Texan?” I replied, “If you were born in a barn would that make you a cow?”

Beeble
Aside from calling Coulter a "brilliant" anything, I only take issue with "Rove: Brilliant moderate".

Really?

To Beeblebrox
Regarding Bush and cronyism you may want to google "Taking Charge of Federal Personnel", a policy paper sent to Bush by The Heritage Foundation in the first month of his presidency. It very specifically advises him to put political loyalty ahead of competence and experience when making a job appointment so that he will be truly in control of federal agencies. He is further advised to put one of his own people in each agency division at management level to vet all decisions coming out of that agency. Bush appears to have followed this advice. Friends who work in science-based federal agencies tell me that, under Bush, when scientists write scientific papers for other scientists, they must first hand the paper in to the Bush guy, who then hands it back to them to be rewritten in a way more favorable to Bush's policies, and to hell with science. Meanwhile candidates for scientific advisory panels, previously selected for a specific clinical or scientific expertise, have lately been asked whether they favor the overturn of Roe v Wade (even when scientific matters to be reviewed have nothing to do with reproduction). If they give the wrong answers, they don't get appointed to the panel. Furthermore, examples are rife of heavy Bush contributors and/or supporters receiving choice jobs in his government (Michael Brown the non-disaster expert does come to mind). So what ARE you talking about?

So let me get this straight
A whole lot of lefties here are paying taxes for FEMA and don't even know what it is FEMA does?

Why am I not surprised.

lilly
You are in la-la land. Did you miss the attorney firings for one? The precise problem with the Bush administration was that he didn't fire all of the Dems and vet all opinions. He trusted too much. Hence all of the leaks.
One thing I can give Clinton credit for is he did fire all of the Reps and put in his own people. Bush should have done that and would have been well within his right to do so.

Beeeblebrox
Hello, are you awake? Are you even alive? The stock market is tanking because The Ownership Society couldn't make its mortgage payments. In spite of merry predictions, we are still grossly in debt to China and Japan. And at this moment two feet from me the TV is announcing Mattel's recall of 9 MILLION defective toys---this follows the recall of other toys, plus more toys before that, after the poisoned cough syrup and toothpaste and petfood---all thanks to our doing business with a country that has lousy industrial regulations, a country to which we have outsourced so many American jobs. Three cheers for our wonderful economy?

Lolo
The idea is that you're supposed hire or appoint people who know something about the job they're hired or appointed to do, so the job will get done. This isn't about the attorney firings---that's a whole other issue. This is about putting political loyalists in jobs that should be filled by people with whatever it takes to be competent in those jobs: academic preparation and job experience trump having been a big contributor to Bush's campaigns. As for FEMA, the Federal Emergency Management Agency, it is described on its website for anyone to read. Michael Brown had no background in disaster management---he had worked for the Arabian Horse Association.

After the Civil War, President Grant rewarded political supporters with jobs they didn't know how to do, thus creating such a mess, that the Civil Service system was begun in response. It has resulted in career civil servants who know very well how to do their jobs because the system has allowed the jobs to be non-political and to continue through both Democratic and Republican administrations. Bush wanted to end Civil Service and return to a political spoils system.

Beeblebrox
"Can you inform us as to whether you complained so bitterly about the unchallenged king of cronyism, Bill Clinton?

Did you complain about Bill's PROVEN corruption (as opposed to the completely UNPROVEN charge of corruption against Bush)."

I'm sure he had no complaints about the First Bubba. Remember, Bill Clinton's a Democrat. A Democrat could commit murder and yellow dog Democrats wouldn't complain.

Hypocrisy, thy name is Democrat.

Gabby, You say Incompetent.
Gabby writes: Tuesday, August, 14, 2007 8:13 PM
Free at last!
Thank the Lord! Praise God! This incompetent horrid little man is gone from the Whitehouse.

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You say Incompetent.

Tell me, what is it that he was supposed to do that he didn't do exactly as it was supposed to be done. I'm not saying I agree with him, and I certainly have not agreed with Bush since he ran for Congress many years ago.

The fact that someone does something you don't like, doesn't mean he is incompetent.

lily
the stock market has hit several new "highs" recently...

Why do you mention "tanking" - unless you are doing nothing more than letting the msm whisper those "horrible" facts, day after day after day...as Henny Penny ran around saying "the sky is falling" "the sky is falling" "the sky is falling"

Bye Bye, Karl
The Socialist-Democrats are dancing in the streets as Rove packs his bags.

These socialist pukes have convinced themselves that Karl Rove was Satan, using the devilish powers of the dark side to get Bush elected twice.

The reality, of course, is that Bush beat a lack-luster amateur politician who couldn't carry his own state and a socialist with a phony Vietnam War record (most of which he wrote himself).

Sure, give Karl the credit he's due in the political arena, but don't make him larger than life. Rove's a great guy to have in your corner, but when the bell rings, it's the candidate who rises (and falls) on his own.

DavidMac
..."The reality, of course, is that Bush beat a lack-luster amateur politician who couldn't carry his own state and a socialist with a phony Vietnam War record (most of which he wrote himself)."...

YOU GOT THAT RIGHT!!! Enough said!

@CapeConservative
Why are you even engaging Lilly in a conversation? She is a well known troll on these forums and rarely has even a half cogent offering to make in a discussion.

Best to avoid feeding the troll.

two feet from me the TV
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lilly writes: Tuesday, August, 14, 2007 6:35 PM
… … … And at this moment two feet from me the TV
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Oh my, maybe that’s your problem, all that radiation from the TV. I have always heard you are not supposed to let the kids sit that close to the TV.


can you cut the taxes for people who don
Daddyhill writes: Tuesday, August, 14, 2007 2:02 PM
tax cuts benefiting chiefly wealthier Americans,

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All these complaints about tax cuts for the wealthy. How can you cut the taxes for people who don’t pay any tax, or pay very little. Give a $1 tax cut to a million poor people and nothing much happens, for them or anyone else.

Give a $5,000,000 tax cut to an already rich person, and that can create a bunch of jobs, or loans for a lot of cars or houses.

Remember whatever the rich spends includes a bunch of sale tax. I would imagine they don’t bury the rest of it in the back yard, so while it sits in a bank, or other financial account of any kind, the money is then available for loans for homes, cars, and on and on.

When they hire a Limo that gives work to a driver, a mechanic, a car washer, some to the tax collector, and on and on.

I expressed this idea many years ago when there were complaints when it was made known that a marriage of one of the Ford family was going to cost a quarter of a million dollars. Think of all the people who had an income from that ceremony.

Beeblebrox
thanks...will take your advice in the future!

C'mon Jim
Get real. Are you saying that rich people actually BUY things? And furthermore, are you saying that they buy things made by average Americans? Hard to believe. /sarcasm

The most notable example of this is when Congress passed the luxury tax a few years back which basically tanked the American yacht building industry. When they realized what economic doofuses they were Congress repealed the law and yacht sales started coming back. Of course, not before it threw hundreds of laborer out of work.

Too bad liberals failed Econ 101.


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