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Wednesday, February 18, 2009
Ben Shapiro :: Townhall.com Columnist
Obama's Stimulus Creates Useless Jobs
by Ben Shapiro
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Theres one reason, and one reason only, that President Barack Obamas stimulus passed so swiftly through Congress: Most Americans are worried about their jobs. And Barack Obama promises to save or create four million jobs. Even Obamas most ardent opponents embrace the make jobs programs embedded in the stimulus. Construction projects that put people to work, that fits the bill, Sarah Palin told Greta Van Susteran of Fox News. But these big, huge, expanded social programs thats not right, thats not fair.

Neither Republicans nor Democrats get it. The problem isnt just the pork barrel social welfare spending. Its not merely the redistributionist scheme disguised as tax cuts. The public relations backbone of this bill -- government spending on our nations crumbling infrastructure -- is misguided. While the countrys infrastructure may need revamping, this sort of spending will not stimulate the economy. It will not create the kind of jobs Americans need.

When politicians embrace government make jobs programs, they demonstrate a fundamental misunderstanding of the role of employment in the economy. The goal of a thriving economy isnt full employment -- its raising the standard of living. Employment rate means nothing if the jobs it measures do not create wealth for the economy. During the Great Depression (1930-1940), the United States had an average unemployment rate of almost 18 percent; the USSR, by contrast, had full employment. And yet when the Oscar-nominated movie The Grapes of Wrath, chronicling the Great Depression, premiered in 1941, the USSR banned the movie for the simple reason that the poverty-stricken Joads owned a car -- a luxury virtually no Soviet outside the government enjoyed. Full employment did not breed prosperity.

Thats because not all jobs are created equal. Valuable jobs provide products and services the free market supports; useless jobs provide products and services the free market would not support. Valuable jobs provide products and services that enrich quality of life, making it cheaper to live better; useless jobs provide products and services that have minor impact on quality of life.

Heres the magic of private sector jobs. Imagine Bill owns a fruit stand. He sells his fruit for $2 per pound. Herman sees that Bill is doing well, and decides to open a fruit stand of his own. He figures he can undercut Bill and live on less of a profit margin, so he sells his fruit at $1 per pound. Pretty soon, Herman runs Bill out of business. Its tough for Bill. But meanwhile, customers are spending $1 less for their fruit than they were. Theyre spending that extra money at Bobs clothing store, keeping Bob employed -- and Bob can now hire Bill. The bottom line is this: The power of free enterprise creates competition that raises production, lowers prices, and makes lives better for consumers and producers. And thats true even if employment declines in the fruit stand business.

Now lets look at government jobs. Imagine Cool Hand Luke works for the government as a menial laborer. He builds roads in New York. People dont choose to pay Cool Hand Luke -- the government forces them to pay his salary. Now, certain people in New York may benefit from the new road. But they would rather have spent their cash on a new car, or a new computer, or a new business. And the people who live in California, who are also paying Cool Hand Luke, get nothing for their money. Their quality of life is not improved one iota. The bottom line is this: The government can always provide employment, but that employment will not benefit the public nearly as much as a private sector job would.

Americans instinctively understand that quality of life matters far more than employment rate -- and that only valuable jobs increase quality of life. That is why Americans oppose Obamas stimulus package. According to the latest Rasmussen poll, 53 percent of Americans think the stimulus will either fail to stimulate or actually hurt the economy. Unsurprisingly, the only sector of the American economy that overwhelmingly supports the stimulus plan is government employees, by a margin of 49 percent to 24 percent.

And yet our politicians think they can appease us by offering us useless jobs. They think investment bankers will be happy to staff the bureaucracy at the Bureau of Indian Affairs. They believe Americans will be glad to subsidize Caterpillar Inc. employees, rather than putting that cash in their own checking accounts.

Obama might prevent rising unemployment. After all, so did President Jimmy Carter. But hell do so at the cost of private sector employment. Americans will pay the price in standard of living -- but at least they can say they have a job, no matter how useless.

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its understandable
that supporters of the bill think fixing roads will help, but it won't help our economy. It's like putting wax on a space shuttle when it needs a new engine; it may look better but the craft in turn still needs work. Here in Denver there were lots of protesters when Obama was signing the bill. I wish I had the chance to go today, but couldn't. We need more private sector jobs, not government jobs. Government interference in the private sector is what got us here.
Great Article Ben.

Eric
You are right.

There will be a few jobs, but what happens when those jobs are completed? Those people will then be unemployed again, unless, through no fault of Obama, the REAL economy makes a return.

The problem lies in the fact that if the economy returns, the MSM and the Obama junkies, will say that it was because of his theft of a bill.

Is this satire?
Could Shapiro really believe this nonsense? Does he know so little about how the world works that he thinks the Interstate Highway System did nothing to improve America's quality of life? Does he really think that policeman and soldiers are working useless jobs?

I certainly don't mind conservatives making such arguments. If they want to limit their portion of the electorate to people stupid enough to think that government jobs and infrastructure do not affect their quality of life, they are welcome to that 15% of the population.

But it does make you wonder whether Shapiro is really this stupid, or he is just hoping his readers are. Truly bizarre.

shapiro - oversimplified as usual

Since when is social welfare spending "pork barrel" compared to anything else?

Why will infrastructure spending not create the kinds of jobs American's need? and why will it not stimulate the economy?

Why doesn't the creation of infrastructure-repairing jobs increase the quality of life?

I could go on -- Shapiro just throws out this stuff with the flimsiest of logic (His paragraph about Cool Hand Luke is absurd). If his free-market miracles work the way he claims, then we wouldn't be in this mess today.

Oh, I forgot, it must be the Invisible Hand.

The Douglas commentary-or lack of it
When has there not been a recession cycle in this ocuntry? How is this one any different than the one Bush inherited? Or Clinton? Or Reagan?

Social spending is what has contributed mightily. California has a 103 billion budget for 2008, 30 billion of it debt. Much of it from unchecked social spending.

The rest of your post is typical drive by comments, condescending, not worth of discussion, just ridicule, and enforce the prception of the out of touch academic elites.

More of the Dr. Douglaas thought of circular reasoning.

FREE toilets, kitchens and CARS

HOW does giving the parasites free toilets, kitchens, cars,

YOUR HOUSES
YOUR ASSETS
YOUR Health CAre
YOUR Jobs
YOUR EARNINGS
YOUR childrens earnings
YOUR grandchildren's earnings

"create" or stimulate jobs ?

Robert REich, Obama's spokesman said:
NO WHITES NEED APPLY
NO NON UNION MEMBERS NEED Apply

Pristine water to flush your free toilet

ONLY in the USA :it is mandatory to have pristine water to flush your JOHN

ONLY in the USA do the poorest of the poor have TV's: IPODS;; Internet access: Microwaves:

Dr Douglas
Because when we BORROW money to 'create' jobs, we have created debt with that job. As such, we need to figure out if that job will bring the profits necessary to 'pay back the debt'. if it does then that is a good economic decision, if it does not then it is a bad decision.

What makes Obama's plan detrimental is that all the jobs will be 'created' on 'borrowed money' and the jobs don't bring profits i.e. if we built something that we could sell to another country for profit, then we can use those profits to pay back the chinese. As it stands, 1.2 trillion will be borrowed, at the rate of 2%, which is approximately 1.6 billion in interest a year, and these 'jobs' won't offer any profits to pay back this interest and principle.

Explain how that is 'stimulating' the economy? AND YES IT IS THAT SIMPLE. And just because Bush did stupid, it does not justify Barak doing even more stupid - in the name of 'jobs' that 3 letter word Biden talked about:)

WE HAVE ROADS::::
We have enough golf carts, etc.

WE have Roads, bridges: (even the big dig)
We have thousands of miles of never used bike paths , walking paths,
We have granite and marble schools with pristine water to flush the JOHN
we have heated and air-conditioned buses to haul kids to and from schools
we have free breakfast, free lunch in every school.
We pass out condoms to 11 year olds

BUILDINGS DO NOT TEACH::::

NOTE: you cry because your jobs go to India:
to brilliant young educated men:

In India:: zero zero marble and granite school buildings:
zero air conditioning
zero pristine water
etc.


cost $250,00 per job he creates !

USE YOUR CALCULATOR::: and calculation the cost to create 4 million jobs at the cost of with over 1 trillion plus interest

WE know that the USA has a 33% illiteracy rate because teachers now are teaching or showing the kids "HOW TO IN THE BACK OF THE BUS"
Teaching the kids to report parents who do not believe in global warming
Teaching kids that Obama is GOD
Teaching kids to NOT listen to their parents!
Teaching kids that the USA is EVIL !
Teaching kids that they are "ENTITLED" to take YOUR earnings; your savings: your assets:
Teaching kids that they do not have to obey any LAWS to get promoted to the highest office in the country:

This is not a RECESSION !

What Obama is engaged in is the complete and total destruction of the USA, elimination of freedom, rights.
he rewards those who do not enforce the rule of law,
he is rewarding those who break the laws
he is creating "entitlement" more welfare leeches, more parasites.

FREE houses for parasites not a job

giving the parasites a free house is not
creating one job!

B2 People are not parasites,
The government and usually rich people that take the cash and steal most of it while claiming to help the poor are the parasites.
People who accept government handouts are not parasites. The poor are just the poor, and because of that they will wisely take help from anyone they can get it from as long as there are not too many restrictions on it.

Jenny
People who vote themselves into govt handouts ARE parasites. If they had no active part in establishing the flow of unearned assets to themselves, they would be innocent, but this is not the case.

jenny
you know nothing about "the poor". it doesnt matter if you are poor or rich yourself, if you are poor you dont have a clue why, and if you are rich, i would bet you didnt earn it. i have been poor, looks like i will be poor again. i know them, i deal with them daily, and i see them making the decision to be poor on a continual basis. there are very few poor in this country that are poor due to circumstances beyond their control. the overwhelming majority chose to be poor, and chose it day after day for a long time. they start choosing in school, when they decide to remain ignorant. they decide to be poor when they refuse to learn the language of the country, preferring to speak hick, or ebonic, or spanish, anything but proper english. they choose poverty when they refuse to work, or choose to work badly. they choose poverty when they go into debt unnecessarily, buy luxuries they cant afford, breed children they cannot afford. they opt for poverty when they waste their time and resources on drugs, alchohol and tobacco. they choose poverty when they choose a life of crime, unless they are democratic politicians. you show me one person who is poor in spite of not making the options that i have listed, and i will show you a hundred that are poor for those precise reasons. it has also been proven time after time that the more you subsidize poverty, the more poverty there is. please quit expounding on the helpless poor. those who are poor at this time chose it. in the near future, there will be a large number of poor people who are poor precisely becaused they chose to get educated and work hard. these will be poor because people like you and the messiah stole everything they earned and made slaves of those willing to work. the main function of the poor in the past has been to vote democrat. i doubt that the new poor will be so much inclined to vote for their slavemasters.

there's no such thing as a useless job
This Bill is exactly what we need; most experts say it should be bigger. Other countries, for example Japan and Britain, are doing the exact same thing. There is serious economic crisis going on that is global. Can you believe Iceland (the country) is bankrupt? Or China's fast growing economy now has no growth?
On Oct 3, 2008 Pres. Bush signed into law the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008- 700 billion, and that's Ok, right? But, when Obama signs the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009- 787 billion, it's not, right?
I understand the Rep. version from the House had more tax cuts, including more for lg. corporations, of course. How many jobs does that strategy create? Or does it just allow for bigger CEO salaries and golden parachutes?
Do you know that the 700 "Bailout" Bill Pres. Bush signed, part of TARP, along with the other Bailouts total 7.36 Trillion, (yes, with a T)?*
This is before the Bill Pres. Obama just signed. I don't know why people are complaining about a Bill that WILL create jobs and do some good.
*http://www.cnbc.com/id/27719011

Oh, yes there is such a thing, Ruth
Your argument attempts to immunize Obama by suggesting any of us approved of TARP. I know I didn't and while I didn't say so here, I do say it elsewhere. And a lot of people just as conservative as I am did so also, many of them here. So your argument loses its main prop.

Besides, you don't actually argue for the proposition you make. If the job you hold does not generate an economic return for the person who hired you, you will eventually be out of that job. If they're really nice, they will work with you to try to get you producing profits. If not, then you will simply be out on your keister, wondering what happened.

I'm sorry if that was one too many thoughts in a row for you.

Sandra

Explaining the obvious to a man like Dr Douglas is like trying to reason with a child who's in the middle of a temper tantrum.

He's a neolib. Reality does not enter into his argument - only his emotions.

Ruth

You DO realize that this porkulus bill is all being brought to you on money borrowed from foreign countries and the interest is also being paid on credit? The federal government now has unfunded mandates amounting to over 60 TRILLION dollars and is climbing at a rate that will collapse our economy by 2020.

Is that how you conduct your finances? If so, why the hell should we listen to your opinion on economics?

Yes, Mr Bill!
Couldn't have said it better.

All this infrastructure building is just a union pay back for their $500 million they gave to Obuma for his campaign. Anyone who thinks these jobs will not be all union (incl a fair share of illegals) have the brain of Mr Douglas.......nuff said.

It's NOT to Late DON"T giveup
Alan Keyes, a 2008 presidential candidate who now is a plaintiff in one of the many lawsuits seeking to verify whether Barack Obama qualifies under the U.S. Constitution's requirements to occupy the Oval Office, says the tactics adopted by lawyers for the president confirm there is an issue for the courts to investigate.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=81550

Do something=change, do nothing=same.

4 million or 3 million jobs

obama is now stating he will save or create 3.5 million jobs. I swear I hear him state without doubt he would creae 4 million jobs.
The difference is now 500,000 jobs. Did obama decide to revise his numbers because was lying about 4 million jobs ? or, is he just a scam artist who believes that lying is the first step ?
Also, if a job produces no profit (such as government jobs) it is not a job ; it is an act of labor being supported by others at the point of a federal gun.

Bill
You may also note that Haslett's book is available in pdf from aei.org.

Job for a select few
These jobs are for a select few in specific states, towns, cities. If you want a job, you better be able to do construction work or build road. And yes, be happy that you have to do manual labor. We will soon need to build colleges to teach construction and road building. Like Mr. Shapiro said, that road in "wherever" won't help me or my area. And when the roads and construction are finished, what jobs are we going to create to replace them and where are we going to get the money to pay for them?

It's also discriminatory, "no whites need apply." There's two provisions in the bill: 1. these jobs must use American made products and 2. union workers. What about putting a provision in there that says "all apply" and hire legal Americans and immigrants and do not hire (or spend money on other "entitlements," education, health care, welfare, food stamps, housing, etc.) illegal immigrants, there aren't enough jobs to go around for people who are here legally.

California spends over $5b on illegals they they proudly "sanctuary" and they are bankrupt. And all those rich actors, producers, wealth, filmmakers, etc., who live there have A LOT of abundance -- they should do what they preach -- buy smaller houses, use less energy, and give all of their money over the minimum salary of the average citizen--They should be so liberally compassionate that they would be running to the state to share (redistribute) the wealth to make things equal and better for the poor in their own state, cities, and towns.

Maybe the Governor could slash his salary to $1 a year like the CEOs because he mismanaged his state and allowed it to become bankrupt. I sure don't want my hard earned money being spent to help them out of their own created bankruptcy. Unlike them, I have to live within my meager budget. I'd rather keep my own money and help the family down the street who lost their job and are working hard to find another one.

a
You must know the kid is right! You bash him but make no intelligent argument in opposition to his point of view.

Obambi's Government Job Application

Government Job Application

Job applying for (Check appropriate box):

[ ] Hole digger

[ ] Hole filler

Stimulus Plan Completely Bogus
Once Obama was elected, the company I work for began the sweeping lay offs, something they never ever needed to do in the 11 years I worked there.

I was lucky enough to be kept while many others were not. These were sales reps, technicians, qulaity control, administration and customer service.

Tell me, how is building a road going to change and enhance the quality of their lives and put immediate food on their table? Shall they grab a shovel and run to the nearest constructiuon site?

Once those roads and bridges are built exclusively by those unions who paid for Obama's campaign are finished, then what? Will jobs magically pop out from the asphalt and we take our shovels and dig them up?

This bill is nothing more than paying off every large conglomerate that got that charlatan in office. The tax cuts for us poor 90%? The new tax laws are so convoluted that your so called tax credits are automatically washed out by more government taxes and spending.

My company is anticipating the worst and considering we live in Illinois which is no friend to any business, they will get double-hosed by more increasing taxes both federally and by the state.

Sure, build those roads...yeah...good idea...That really helps corporate America.

ben
so we just wait until the bridges collapse and then the people in that area can chip in to have a new bridge built? " the interstate highway program is the most successful public works program in the history of the world." anyone know who said that? thats right ben, george will.

curmudgeon
Great post.

ben
so we just wait until the bridges collapse and then the people in that area can chip in to have a new bridge built? " the interstate highway program is the most successful public works program in the history of the world." anyone know who said that? thats right ben, george will.

This is really good.....
"Nothing is less productive than to make more efficient what should not be done at all." --writer Peter Drucker (1909-2005)

Dr Douglas - On ''Economics 101''
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Dr Douglas vapors:

"Since when is social welfare spending 'pork barrel' compared to anything else?

"Why will infrastructure spending not create the kinds of jobs American's need? and why will it not stimulate the economy?

"Why doesn't the creation of infrastructure-repairing jobs increase the quality of life?"



Posing such questions gives credence to the suppositions that Dr Douglas operates from wholly unsupportable praxeological premises.

Capital investment - which is what "infrastructure spending" ineluctably is, whether that spending is undertaken in the private or the public sector - must be examined always in light of the ends to be served by that investment, and not simply that said spending *is* an investment.

For example, the overt and explicit objective of the "infrastructure spending" to create the interstate highway system beginning in the '50s was to serve a *MILITARY* purpose.

President Eisenhower and other American military leaders had seen Germany's Autobahnen and realized how strategically valuable were these all-weather, high-speed, limited-access internal conduits of movement. So the spending on the interstate highways was a reasonable defense priority.

Economically, however, "infrastructure spending" - like all capital investment - must provide a mensurable aid to productivity.

By which is meant the creation and deliver of goods and services for which there is a real economic demand.

"Bridge to Nowhere" types of "infrastructure spending" do not, in and of themselves, achieve productive ends despite their transient positive effects on those vendors and workers involved directly in such construction.


And since "social welfare spending" achieves no productive end whatsoever, such is even more to be condemned as "pork barrel" than is malinvestment in unproductive "infrastructure spending."

--

Dr. Douglas Oversimplified as Usual
Tell me, have you ever worked a real job in your life? Have you ever worked in a corporate office that produces, manufactures and sells goods and services to other businesses that depend on you in order to service and sell to their customer base?

Being in school such as you have for most of your adult life has sheltered you from the real world where your books and papers couldn't for once brush upon. You are in a bubble where lay offs and shutting down shop isn't part of your fears. All you hope for is more government money coming from folks like myself as you sit on your tweed wearing arse and judge us.

Roads, bridges and buildings are good for only one kind of job market, and it's controlled by unions, the very people who paid millions for Obama's campaign. Let's not forget that no white new hires need apply for them too.

My company, in order to keep the rest of us, has stated we cannot get raises this year, nor our bonus's, also we are to take a week off each month without pay to survive this. We are happy to do this in order to keep our jobs, our benefits, and make our company survive.

Tell me, how is that road to nowhere supposed to breathe new life into our company and hire back everyone?






Government jobs = Net drain
Government jobs are a huge drain on the economy, Whenever I hear about some new plan, the first thing I ask is how many new hires will it take to implement. These government employees will be paid better and have better benefits than the private sector. That's why it was so pathetic to hear about the wages the auto workers get! Government employees have a lot better deal. We will have these government employees forever too, the gov. never seems to shed jobs (and worthless employees) like a normal business. For the people who assume that any of us liked Bush's bailout any better, what color is the sky on your planet? Conservatives pay no attention to the R or D we look at the legislation and the ramifications of it.

BEN, YOU ARE RIGHT!
In 1989, after Eastern Europe had shaken off the yoke of the Communist System, I worked in a Eastern European country as a business advisor to assist the companies to make the transition from government owned businesses to a free enterprise system.
The biggest obstacle for companies, after they became privately owned, to make a profit were too many employees that companies had under the old system. Under communism everyone was guaranteed a job, government owned businesses were not operated on a profit basis, only privately owned business are. In the country I was I was in, few citizens owned their own homes and less than half owned an automobile. When I arrived there in 1993 it seemed like the country was still in the 1960's, it was evident that very little modernization had been done since that time.

Socialism/Communism will destroy etrepreneurship
every time.

Ben
I just read your Autobiography,"The Arrogance of Ignorance". Your article is a reflexion of your book. First no job is useless,when it feeds your family. If you were given all the books in the World, you could not understand "Quality of Life". Your article has so many "Contradictions",I got lost. The public determines which businesses stay in business by their choices. Each time a person makes a purchase,they are casting an affirmative vote. When they can no longer purchase,someone else has to step in. A lack of income has many impacts, because it arrests choice. We are at a point in this country wherein we need income. "Hopefully" in the future choice will return and have "Quality of Life" aboard. Ben, you are a "Dumb As" conservative. That's why I left the party.

Ben, Bill, Curmudgeon, Laura and Shells
Your posts are targeted, timely and undermine the temporary nature of these so-called jobs. Excellent points all!! Thanks for those!!

OOps, Read....
Underline..not undermine!

Corndog
"Government Job Application

Job applying for (Check appropriate box):

[ ] Hole digger

[ ] Hole filler

You forgot that for every 2 guys (digger-filler) we would need at least 3 guys in white hard hats to supervise them. ( thats where I come in! )

Eric-Pat-Shells-Laura-BGuy112-Barbara
Useless Jobs created by Useless Legislation which was created by our USELESS President. At least Barry the Stoner is consistent! LMAO!

Bob
Amen!

We were fortunate to see communism up close and personal. I traveled to East Berlin in the fall of '87.

In every store I was in, the shelves were practically empty, yet there were at least 5 people working. Not a single person ever met my gaze directly even though I spoke German. The housing was dilapidated and falling down. The cars ran on Mogas. And, naturally, big brother was everywhere.


Jobs
The jobs that this program creates, I use the term jobs instead of employement, are not only useless but temporary. What good does it do the country to have everyone employed for six or nine or fifteen months, while building a road or a bridge, if every single one of them is fired as soon as the job is done. The bill is not employing people , it is delaying unemployment... a situation that we should know doesn't work. Can anyone name a single situation in which political intervention helped a situation in the last 100 years?

A Wonderful Economics Lesson
Thanks, Ben, for such a simple, illustrative seminar.

It is interesting that the government job application process is byzantine, while a simple resume suffices for a private company.

Useless jobs and massive debt too!
Right on, Ben. In addition to the distortion of the market with these useless jobs, we can look forward to massive debt that will probably cause huge inflation before the end of Obama's first term.

Government full employment
When Russia first opened up to tourism at the end of the Cold War, after 70 years of communism/socialism (full employment), I visited St. Petersburg and Moscow and the huge GUM department store had all of the shelves filled with row on row of Fur Hats and military clothing and boots, etc. - no commercial goods whatsoever. Today, after a few years of capitalism it is again full of boutiques with wondrous goods for any who can afford them, as it was in the days before communism (full employment).

Big Dig
A good example of a gov't run job is the Big Dig in Boston. It started off at a cost of 2 Billion. It ended up ( if memory serves) at around 20 billion. It is well known that billions were squandered or out right stolen in materials etc. Many stories of materials taken to guys houses on Cape Cod to remodel or for additions. The Boston Herald had several stories showing guys sleeping in their heavy equipment or going and coming to bars for a liquid lunch. ( then returning to run their heavy equipment). After all this only one person ( so far ) has been killed. A woman driving to the airport had a giant slab of concrete fall on her car and killed her. Turns out they used substandard epoxy on the giant slabs. Of course no one went to jail.

Ben, for some reason, ignores the
obvious corollary. The jobs that WILL be created are going to ALL be filled by the SAME people doing them NOW--with one on the shovel and 3 standing around watching. And they are--MEXICANS! Not a THING here for displaced Auto Workers or Computer programers, but a real furtherance of the Commieqr Reconquista Agenda.
Dumblocrap Ruling Class over Slave Labor Mexispeak Class. Brave New America.

At 200k a job, divide it into 10 k packets, give it to 20 times as many AMERICANS for the down payment on a NEW CAR! THAT would put Detroit back to work!

Obviously the REAL agenda here is something far more EVIL.

To wit I offer the following cautionary tale.

The Big Mick

Obama pipe dream
Ben, Good article and explanation of Government jobs. Obama's Romantic vision of FDR and his Depression era Projects he created are delusional, the Depression was not a pretty time. We are nowhere close to a Depression yet, but if Obama's pet project fails we could be a lot closer to one. This is what you get when you check your Brain at the door and base your choice of the next President on emotion.

Lanky Tan Obamo, A "Stimulus" Story.
Once upon a time in Chicago, there lived a Golden Child and his name was Lanky Tan Obamo.
And his mother was White MomBO. And his father was Black Muslimo.
And he had a mentor called CommieSaul Allinski, and another called Red BillA and another called Black Racer Jerry. And they gave him a beautiful Commie Red Coat, and beautiful Blue State Trousers, and a beautiful Eco-Radical Green Umbrella, and a lovely little pair of RedBlue Purple ACORN Shoes with Commie Red Souls.

And then wasn’t Lanky Tan Obamo GRAND?

So he put on all his Fake, I mean Fine ,Clothes and went for a walk in Europe.

And by and by he met a Tiger. And the Tiger said to him, “My name is Bigga Fedgov, and I’m going to eat up the Village.”

And Lanky Tan Obamo said, “I am going to the Village to Preach Hope; pull my wagon and I’ll get you in.”

And so they went on. By and by they met another Tiger and he said, “My name is European Socialism and I’m going to eat up the Village.”

And Lanky Tan Obamo said, “I am going to the Village to Preach Sharing; pull my wagon and I’ll get you in.”

And so they went on. By and by they met another Tiger and he said, “My name is Socialized Health Care and I’m going to eat up the Village.”

And Lanky Tan Obamo said, “I’m going to the Village to Preach Change; pull my wagon and I’ll get you in.”

And so they came to the Village.

end part 1--part 2 continues

tbm

Lanky Tan Obamo, Part 2
And Lanky Tan Obamo stood on top of the wagon and said, “WE are the Change, YOU have been waiting for.”

And Lanky Tan Obamo began to Preach, and he Preached, Hope, and Sharing, and Change.

And the Tigers ran around the wagon.

And the more they ran, the more Lanky Tan Obamo Preached.

And the more Lanky Tan Obamo Preached, the faster they ran.

And they ran faster and faster until the Village couldn’t see what they really were, but only a great blurry pool of brown and yellow which looked like Milk and Honey and Gold that was flowing around the wagon.

And Lanky Tan Obamo said, “Behold The Stimulus Package; open the gates and It will bring Hope and Change and Prosperity.”

And so they opened the gates.

And Lanky Tan Obamo and the wagon, and the great blurry pool of brown and yellow, flowed into the Village and into each and every home.

Where they promptly turned back into Tigers and ate everyone up.

And Socialized Health Care ate 27% , and European Socialism ate 55%, but Bigga FedGov ate
169% because he was so hungry.

And Lanky Tan Obamo, satisfied, sat down, put his feet up, and had himself a smoke.

Because he was very, very Grand!

The End

The Big Mick

Nee

I saw the same things in Eastern Europe, many goods were scare and people were still standing in lines, myself included, at small markets to purchase bread or food. Before I left the country an Austrian company had built the first Supermarket, which was well received.
Having seen this first hand and understanding what socialism will do to a country and the people, I can not understand why our government would want to move us in that direction.

That is what scares me for our country. That is CHANGE we don't need.



for Dr. Doug, Ruth and anyone
else who thinks this now law, is going to stimulate the creation of long-term, good paying jobs, read this:

http://www.cnsnews.com/Public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=4 3704

Barry's OWN budget office begs to differ! But of course, once the REAL consequences of barry's idiotic ideas begin to show, he'll be long gone, probably living back in Indonesia becuase he'll have destroyed our economy so completely his own daughters won't be able to find jobs that pay enough to feed themselves, let alone a family. But that's the dems/libs for you; do what feels good and the hell with long term consequences!

Republicans nor Democrats get it
I don't believe anyone in power gets it. This stimulus package will not do anything to our economy other than destroy the country.
Where are the products that will be manufactured by any of this stimulus money. I cannot understand how anyone can be for this excessive amount of money being either borrowed or printed by the feds when there is a void of manufacturing in the nation. For the past ten years, they have been telling us the home industry is creating a good economy. That in itself is a lie. Home industry is a secondary industry. It depends on a good economy in the first place. People cannot afford homes when there are no good jobs in industry.
We have been a service nation for many years. It all was doomed to fail. I hope the small dab of money you the people are going to receive due to this 'stimulus' help you. There are so many freedoms being lost in this package, no matter how much you might receive before it collapses, it is not worth a dime. Lost Freedoms are extremely difficult to regain. No one should accept this money. It will benefit no-one who really needs it.

Jobs Come First.
These are hard times and millions of people are losing their jobs. The purpose of the stimulus package is to provide immediate relief to the unemployed. Filling potholes and painting school rooms might not be important or necessary but it can provide 3 million pay checks to jobless Americans. This is not the time to condemn the program because it might be socialistic. Giving jobs to idle workers is all that counts.

Guaranteed raises and retirement
Next year Cool Hand Luke get's a 10% raise because he showed up for work everyday and a private road builder makes a hire wage than he does. We have to catch up his pay. Of course the small company road builder employee is let go between contracts and he doesn't have a primo pension that matches his salary. He get's a month's vacation, 12 or 13 holidays and can't easily be fired.
It used to be follow the money to get to the root of corruption now it's follow the union. Unions will be stimulated by the stimulus bill. Entrepreneurs will go out of business.

kwills
where are these jobs where you get a months vacation? the only place you will see that is management or european companies.. one company i worked for the most vacation you could get was 3 weeks tops. except for management. the avp of our dept. went to africa one year. he was gone about six weeks. i was talking to him one day and i asked him how much vacation do you get. he said as much as he wanted. good gig if you can get it. most of the construction trades don't have vacations at all because you are working for a different company every year. the laborers used to take a dollar out of every hour you worked and send you a check right before christmas since laborers don't get christmas bonuses or any kind of bonus for that matter.

Here, use some of these...
I noticed that someone has apparently either stolen the apostrophe key from your keyboard, or has stolen all the apostrophes from your post. That's too bad. Here are some of mine for you to use until you can figure out where the problem lies:

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Hope this helps.

Useless Jobs For The Useless.
These really aren't useless jobs. They are just make-work jobs. Two people will dig a hole ...one will dig it and another will fill it up . All day long.

These jobs will be used to buy votes. That's not useless. Make the masses dependent and they will obey your every command. Especially vote for you.

kwills
i never saw 10% raises either. you might get 2 percent a year and over the span of a 5 year contract that would be 10. but that doesn't even keep up with inflation most years. in the years it did the company would always raise your portion of medical insurance so you end up getting farther and farther behind every year anyway.

Melvin
Yeah, that's what they said about Nazism, it gave Germans jobs.

Didn't READ the column, did ya?

The AMERICANS who have LOST their jobs AIN'T gonna see a DIME of this crap! It's a SCAM, Melvin!

Your "all that counts" AIN'T THERE! And the "RELIEF" it gives MEXICANS AIN'T gonna be "immediate." "IMMEDIATE" relief would have been to GIVE AMERICANS THEIR TAX MONEY BACK! But that don't meet the SOCIALIST Agenda, now DO it, Melvin?

What a maroon!

The Big Mick

Spending doesnt WORK!!!
Its very intersting how nObama keeps referencing FDR yet he fails to mention this very important quot: FDR Treasury Secretary, Henry Morgenthau, angry at the Keynesian spenders, confided to his diary May 1939: "We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work. And I have just one interest, and now if I am wrong somebody else can have my job. I want to see this country prosper. I want to see people get a job. I want to see people get enough to eat. We have never made good on our promises. I say after eight years of this administration, we have just as much unemployment as when we started. And enormous debt to boot."

Yet he constantly references FDR as a guiding light. The Depression of 1929 was only GREAT in the US. By all statistical measures every other county came out of it much quicker that we did and was not as bad off. Thanks to FDR, and Gov intervention, it was much longer than needed. The only thing that got us out of it; was WWII.

Then we have Japan; which had gov intervention in the 90's. We all know how that went. HINT: its called the lost decade for a reason.


Now counter that with the Kennedy, Reagan, and Bush Tax Cut while the economy was in a malaise: Economic boom each time.

So in short spending has NEVER EVER PROVEN to work... and tax cuts have always worked.

Oh; as for no economists disgreeing with plan. nObama should look outside his payroll for answers. There are hundreds that disagree:

http://cato.org/special/stimulus09/cato_stimulus.pdf



KWILLS - YOU ARE RIGHT ON

Having been a small business owner of three different business, non union employees, I agree with you totally. Texas is a right to work state and there are few unionized companies here. Non union companies will always grow and develop faster than unionized companies will. In fact, Texas generated almost half of the nation's new jobs from April 2007 to April 2008 and according to The Financial Times, Texas has the best state economy in the country in the context of national economic crises. We have a Republican governor who is business-friendly and in its tax structure, plus not allowing the state budget to reel out of control, as California did.

The city I live in has a lot of civil service jobs which is almost the same as a union. I have heard the government employees quote their benefits, vacation time, lunch and coffee breaks as though they were entitled, but resented being treated like slaves to the system.

This country developed because individuals were free to create, invent, and build a product that was needed in each generation, free of the government and all of their regulations on their backs.




bob
i worked in texas and there was more illegal aliens working than you can shake a stick at. the whole drywall industry in texas is staffed by illegals. one owner of a company asked our foreman on a job if up in st. louis we had illegals working on jobs. our foreman said no. this guys says "who hangs your drywall"? our foreman laughed and said the carpenters. so your employees don't get any breaks?

ONE Reason ?!

How could anyone reason that?

I don't know anyone who was FOR it.
In my Senators' offices they easily
indicated /no one/ was for it.

Stimulus
Take the 700 plus billion add it to the 350 billion and pay peoples home (personnel dwelling) for one year. At 1500 per month or 18000 per year that would be over SIXTY MILLION

Jim - On simple economics
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Asks Jim:

"Where are the products that will be manufactured by any of this stimulus money[?] I cannot understand how anyone can be for this excessive amount of money being either borrowed or printed by the feds when there is a void of manufacturing in the nation."


Sometime between when the Hessians were routed out and Corzine slimed in, Trenton was a center of manufacturing and commerce. One noteworthy remnant of that era is a bridge upon which is posted the legend: "Trenton Makes - The World Takes."

(( See http://www.stanglpottery.org/trentonbridge.htm ))

Today, of course, New Jersey is largely hostile to productive private-sector business enterprises.

Unsurprisingly, it is a cyanotically "blue" state.

Costly, counterproductive, business-hostile state and local regulations have long impaired enterprise here that could turn our land, labor, and capital to the creation of real goods that people in other nations might be willing to barter for.

Among the many, many flaws in the "Liberal" mentality is their insane and idiotic conflation of "money" with "wealth."

Wealth consists in goods and services that accrue to improvement in the possessor's quality of life.

"Money" - which is to say the legal tender uttered by the Federal Reserve as it holds a government monopoly on the issue of paper banknotes and other forms of fiat currency - is "wealth" only to the extent that people are willing to exchange real wealth for it.

When people - here in America as well as across the world - are no longer willing to exchange real wealth for Federal Reserve notes, the decoupling will be obvious and inescapable.

Even to "Liberals."

--

Big Mick, loved Lanky Tan Obamo!
And your reply to Melvin was spot on! These Obamabots don't care about facts or the consequences of their moronic programs. All that matters is that they feel good about doing something no matter the actual results.

no job useless
Don't forget people working pay taxes.
Better than people not working.

He's No Leader.
B.Hussein is not a leader. He is a high-powered salesman. He was primed and groomed by the socialist Soros Machine and other leftists in congress to sell the dismantling of the government. He did a magnificent job.

He is a dynamic salesman. He has used hypnotism techniques to charm his audiencies on his campaign trail. The mainstream media aided and abetted him in his con job.

Some of the hypnotised victims are beginning to wake up. They will be ashamed to admit they were 'had' by a charlatan,but they were duped by the best.

Biden's idea
I'm no expert at searching the internet for specific quotes, so I have no link to the statement, but I read that that Joe Biden stated that the infrastructure work would NOT be done by experienced white males. It would be done by union members. I am a member of Local 12 of the International Union of Operating Engineers, covering all of Southern California and Nevada. My union is predominantly white male. We ARE the ones with the experience to build roads, bridges, airports, etc. If Biden wants to build this infrastructure using inexperienced, poor, minority females, it's going to take a long time before they have a work force that will be able to build highways, aqueducts, powerplants, sewage treatment plants, etc. In other words, the "stimulant package" isn't there to get things done, but for further social engineering. That's what got us to the recession, and it will take us to depression if given the chance.

Dumb article
Shapiro is as stupid as his leftist critics on this one. Jobs building roads are not "government" jobs -- in case you are supremely ignorant, private construction companies are hired to do the jobs. Nor are jobs building and repairing infrastructure the equivalent of digging a hole and filling another -- at least most of the time (there are always a few Bridges to Nowhere, of course -- most of them named after Robert KKK Byrd).

The infrastructure projects of the 1930's were not the reason FDR's actions so prolonged the Great Depression. Roads, bridges, dams, even forests planted by the CCC produced long-term value. Government work is not inherently less productive than private-sector employment: the Post Office produces more real benefit than the hooker, the blackjack dealer, or Cool Joe selling Acapulco Gold on the corner.

FDR failed (miserably!) because his gang attempted to control the private economy (price-fixing and the like) and most of all because he crushed the supply side of the economy through higher taxes, especially much higher taxes on capital. The demand-side stimulus of all his public-works spending was overwhelmed by the supply-side damage done by his high tax rates.

B. Hussein's plan will fail not because it contains demand-side stimulus (public works spending), but because it does nothing to stimulate the supply side (no tax reductions). By the way, it will also fail because most of the money given out won't go to stimulation at all -- because it is for political payoffs to groups like ACORN, or because it won't be spent for years to come -- proving that even the infrastructure spending isn't really meant for stimulation, but as a payoff to the unions.

By attacking B. Hussein's attempt at demand-side stimulus, Shapiro places the blame in all the wrong place. Dumb article.

Balanced mind
I've seen this Morganthau quote bandied about on various conservative websites. However, I have not been able to find it in context. On the face of it, it's just not true. Unemployment went from 24.9% in 1933 to 14.3% in 1937. By 1939 it had risen to 17.2%. This is not counting the approximately %5 of the workforce working for the WPA, CCC, and other new Deal agencies.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_Unemployment_rate_of_ the_1930's_in_the_united_states

SJ: Back in the 1950s you could sell almost anything if you claimed it was for defense. Federal aid to education was pushed as a way to produce more nuclear physicists. The interstate system has always been primarily a civilian system.

Obama's Stimulus Creates Useless Jobs
I would say that most Government created jobs are in the end useless. The abject failures of such plans, (The New Deal, The Great Society, in short any plan which promises to create prosperity by make work jobs is in the end a fools effort. "To heard people into acting like brainless soulless robots robots without choice or reward"(Ayn Rand) is a mistake It didn't work for Communists in Russia and it won't work here. Be careful very careful the new President is taking you down a very bad road. In four years you may be already enslaved.

Idaho Rich

The Big Mick

I love 'Lanky Tan'.
With your permission...

"Lanky Tan" (Sung to the tune of "Rocky Top")

Wish I could ignore ole Lanky Tan
Along with the democrat shrills
Ain't no pork before ole Lanky Tan
Ain't no stimulous bills

I once had cash before ole Lanky Tan
Invested in my 401K
He spent my money with not much of a plan
Now it's all gone away

Lanky Tan you'll always be
An empty suit to me
Socialist Lanky Tan
Lanky Tan in DC
Lanky Tan in DC

My useless job
As a member of the military and an Iraq veteran, I'm thrilled to hear that Ben Shapiro thinks my government job is useless and doesn't contribute to our high standards of living. I always thought that supporting the troops was one of the TH propaganda machine's most cherished buzz phrases. You morons should get your messaging straight. Maybe then real consrvatism will have a chance in our country.

Tell Congress to "Stop" the Spending!!!
Congress just passed a 1 TRILLION dollar “stimulus” plan – and now they’ve got their hands out AGAIN!

Yes, believe it or not, the spending isn’t stopping.

Obama is now pitching a 75 BILLION dollar mortgage bailout plan.

And the guys at GM and Chrysler are back asking for another handout of almost 20 BILLION.

This is on top of a trillion dollar “stimulus” that created 32 NEW government programs.

And in the meantime, our national debt is already over TEN TRILLION dollars!

Tell Congress this madness has to stop!

Click below and send a personalized message to your members of Congress today!

http://www.conservativeoutpost.com/campaign/cta/stop_spendi ng

Tytler.
A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to lose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the beginning of history has been about 200 years. During those 200 years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence:

From bondage to spiritual faith;
From spiritual faith to great courage;
From courage to liberty;
From liberty to abundance;
From abundance to complacency;
From complacency to apathy;
From apathy to dependence;
From dependence back into bondage.

To barrow a line from the Sarah Conner “the future is not set, fate is what you make”

Here ya' go Ben
Here are some punctuation marks that you are obviously needing.

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Well at least
we know all the Republican Governors will return any of the money. Otherwise, they'd be just as complicit in "destroying America". Wait, all of them are taking it? Wow. So this is bipartisan.

Only Republicans!
Only republicans can be so far out of touch, that they will say useless jobs. Say that to someone struggling to feed their families. They get the same money from their useless jobs, to buy the same groceries you do!

Idaho Rich
Having defended the New Deal from inaccurate criticism in my last post, I now step up to defend the Great Society. In 1965 almost 40 million people were in poverty, about 22% of the population. By 1969 this had fallen to about 24 million and about 12%. That's due to the Great Society. Since then it's risen to 37 million, although I imagine this is largely population growth, and 12.7%

http://www.eurotrib.com/files/3/051014_US_poverty_rate_and_ numbers.jpg


Hans Fury: The Tytler quote is bogus.

http://www.lorencollins.net/tytler.html

Pork in the Bill
http://www.stimuluswatch.org/

Obama will create more jobs

This just in "Experts say that Obama will make an announcement soon that 'Air America' will be replaced with 'Ears America' which will broadcast the Obama speeches 24/7."

Some experts believe the move was due to the demands of "wipers" who are demanding more jobs".

The "wiper" industry has flourished with Obama followers who go into involuntary orgasms while listening to Obama prophesy about 'Hope' and 'Change' and need wiping.

"'Wiper' spokesperson said the 24/7 broadcasts of Obama speeches brings 'Hope' to the 'wiping' industry as thousands of jobs will be created."

The 'wipers' industry spokesman has just released an emergency hot line number for those listening to 'Ears America'.

dial INE-EDW-IPED or I NEED WIPED

operators are standing by.

Para hablar en Espanol Oprime el Numero Uno
Press 2 For English

NEWSFLASH this just in

Several hundred-job opportunities are available for the Barack Obama speeches.

Experienced chanters are needed.

1) 'Yes we can' - experts
2) 'Change we can believe in' - experts
3) 'Hope' - experts
4) 'Yes We Can' - experts
5) 'Obama is the One' - experts when Obama arrives.

Experienced fainters desperately needed (bring smelling salts).

People to carry water to fainters.

People to assist those experiencing extreme leg shivers and to mop the floor around them.

People to assist those having involuntary orgasms that will not stop. (Bring wipes)

People to hand out 'Save The Planet' tire gauges.

People to hand out 'Obama Current Truth Flyers' as Obama changes solutions.


Apply for employment today!

Para hablar en Espanol Oprime el Numero Uno

Press 2 For English

Useless Jobs ?
Ben Shapiro obviously doesn't need one...
He somehow manages to collect a paycheck for spewing drivel as clearly shown in this article.

NEWSFLASH Obama Job Opportunity

Barack Obama wants to hire a 'Mentor' to help him differentiate a door from a window at the white House.

This job should last the entire Barack Obama Presidency.

His last 'Mentor' Jeremiah Wright, mentored him 23 years and Obama still didn't know what his 'Mentor' taught.

ROY - YOUR ARE RIGHT ABOUT ILLEGALS
Amen --
Texas has had an abundance of illegals working here since 1845 when Texas won independence from Mexico, non union too. We still have open borders and no work programs for immigrants. Texas also has the largest border with Mexico than any other state. Some of our areas along the Rio Grande are too rough to put up a fence or patrol with Border Patrols.

However, the point is, considering all of the above, which California also deals with, our Republican Governor still managed to keep our state budget in check, increase employment and build budget reserves and all was done with no state income tax. Being business-friendly and keeping taxes in check makes a difference.

Why is that so difficult for our national government nitwits to understand?


Ben STOOOOPID
It's hard to believe he's this dumb, but there it is.

Ben:

Take your "fruit stand" analogy and use it in the construction of a bridge. It's one thing to sell rotting fruit because you can buy it cheaper and therefore undercut your competition. Howard doesn't just lower his price because he's willing to accept a lower profit margin; he does it because he makes it back by cutting corners or finding cheaper supply. Sooner or later the profit margin, via competition, is going to settle at the lowest possible point that it can get to before it's just not profitable to sell fruit for a living. Who's gonna undercut Howard? Somewhere, it stops.

It's quite another thing when building a bridge. If exposed to unregulated competition, sooner or later that cheap scrap steel you bought so that you could fulfill your construction contract which you underpriced to beat the competition FAILS.

I don't want Bill OR Howard building my bridges. I want the Government to do it. The way Eisenhower did it. I WANT Government beaurocrats, sometimes known as Engineers, who have nothing else to do than inspect steel on the project. I want people who don't have to answer to a company's bottom line on that one. Let the private sector sell fruit.

There are many, many viable and necessary jobs which can be created by Government spending. This idea that the Government can't do anything well is pure BS. I remember when the Government even used to fight our wars, before Blackwater took over. Back then, we used to WIN them once in a while, and we put a lot of people to work in the process.

bob
you bet he was business friendly. companies hiring illegals at minimum wage while the state looks the other way certainly is business friendly. not so sure its america friendly though.

curmudgeon - THE POOR
Government handouts are NOT a good idea. I am not saying that. But we should have compassion on the poor. And you are really ignorant to think you know anything about my personal economics.
Anyway, I know more rich people in government jobs that vote for liberals than I know poor people that are "voting themselves a handout."
Not everyone can pick themselves up by the bootstaps and make a good living. It divides the party when you call the conservative poor -"Parasites" while liberals offer them handouts- So instead of name calling, give them solutions.

Obama will measure his Success

Obama will measure his Success by how much destruction he can bring to America.

Barack Obama believes the destruction of the American economic system will be the success of the Obama Administration.

Roy -Ilinois - You missed a point

in my earlier posts I mentioned that Texas generated almost 1/2 of the nation's employment from April 2007-April 2008. Again, that is ONE HALF of the NATION's JOBS. Not all of these workers came from Mexico, some fled from the cold climates and corrupt political systems of Illnios.


bob
lol ok. we are going to take care of that with the free choice employment act of 2009.

Obambat's spew
There aren’t any jobs here but Gov’t /tax paying jobs here and will do nothing for the economy but grow Gov. and thinking that isn’t the goal you are either very dense.
The amount really going to infrastructure is a pittance to what is really spent, if more of the money were really going to this and not social engineering it might do some good but I doubt it and probably wouldn’t support it any way because our Fed and local Gov would just blow it on useless projects.
http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/STIMULUS_F INAL_0217.html

Jefferson Weighs In
"It is a wise rule and should be fundamental in a government disposed to cherish its credit and at the same time to restrain the use of it within the limits of its faculties, "never to borrow a dollar without laying a tax in the same instant for paying the interest annually and the principal within a given term; and to consider that tax as pledged to the creditors on the public faith." On such a pledge as this, sacredly observed, a government may always command, on a reasonable interest, all the lendable money of their citizens, while the necessity of an equivalent tax is a salutary warning to them and their constituents against oppressions, bankruptcy, and its inevitable consequence, revolution." --Thomas Jefferson to John Wayles Eppes, 1813. ME 13:269

What about the Interstate Highway System
Based on what Ben Shapiro wrote, I infer that he would have preferred if we had never built the Interstate Highway System. Or Boulder Dam. Or the Golden Gate Bridge. Or the Brooklyn Bridge in New York City. It's not true that spending money to build infrastructure is just wasted. Because after it's spent, you've still got the capital goods--a finished road or bridge. And if you pay maintenance costs, it can last a very long time. (The Brooklyn Bridge is still going strong after 100 years. That's cost-effectiveness.) The problem I have with Obama's plan is that too many of the projects are pie-in-the-sky that won't see fruition for many, many years.

SteveL
I think thats what he wrote, its just the other 700 Billion that were thinking about!!

Obama is Confused Cognitive Dissonance

Cognitive dissonance occurs when someone tries to hold two diametrically opposed views as reality.

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Obama want us to buy American made cars to save the Autoworkers Union.

Obama doesn't want us to drive those cars so the planet can be saved.

Obama wants to spend money on bridges and highways that he doesn't want us to drive those cars on.

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Obama doesn't want a 'Secretive Intelligence Agency', so he wants a Congress who has a 9% approval rating to know everything Panetta is doing. You know people like Maxine Waters can keep secrets.

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Obama doesn't want little darlings like Islamic Terrorists to suffer any discomfort - Obama wants little defenseless babies denied any aid or medication if they have the Audacity to survive an abortion.

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Obama wants to punish excellence and reward failure, by transferring money from those who make good decisions to those who make bad decisions, all for the 'Common Good'.

HE IS JUST a LIAR

Obama just lies about his calculated lies and then calculates more lies and calculates the lises about his lies;

Revolt: we need bold resistance

we are to blame, we acted like wimps and allowed this sinister communist regime to grab power and destroy this country within the first 25 days:

ORGANIZE your like minded circle of influence, and trusted friends, family and plan for a revolt. GROW and expand your group;

1. OUST the local leaders who are a party to the demise of our freedoms and rights

2. get behind leadership candidates that we can trust and who will not destroy this country and give them the support that will propell them to oust the hate america sinister democrat candidates.

3. WRITE: CALL: FAX:: every day: be relentless and make a difference:

crying on each other's shoulders has proven to be futile:

LOOK at what we have; today I swear I heard ADOLPH with the face of Obama:


"JENNY" EARN your own stash !

WE all worked hard, were responsible, saved, invested, and thus some became extremely rich:

YOU WELFARE leeches are the parasites who live off of the productive, the responsible: IT IS NOT OUR obligation to support you:

GET off your lazy:::::::::::::::::::

1. get an education, learn a trade
2. get a job and show up on time, do your job
3. work to earn promotions, learn more:
4. STOP having kids you cannot afford
5. STOP living beyond your means
6. SAVE and invest:
7. Stop trying to be "HOLLYWOOD"
8. Stop wasting your money on junk food and crap you really do not need;
GET OFF YOUR LAZY behinds and work like the successful do:

IT IS REAL SIMPLE:::

MORE rules, more jobs LEAVE !

Kinda obvious: the MORE rules dictator Obama makes and the more he restricts our freedoms and tramples on our rights: THE MORE JOBS will leave the country:

BIG money has already left the country the day he was crowned: IT WILL NEVER come back:

GM took the 17 billion and invested in in Brazil:
If I owned a big company, I"D be gone to more business friendly shores too: KINDA OBVIOUS:

DItch digging for single MOMS

I can see it now:
the widow with a few small kids running a road crew!

Stimilus vs Big Spending
The more I study what I'm able to read about this "Stimulus?" package, the more I question,
aren't a lot, if not most, of these big spending programs items that would be debated under "normal" business of government?
I see very little that should be listed as emergency spending to spur the economy, just big spending as usual.
But that should be expected from the evil idiots of the Demoncrats.
My opinion is that it's business as usual from The Party of Big Government, Big Spending and High Taxes.
Unless something is done. we're in trouble and will be for YEARS to come.
The PIGS are squealing.

LeftUSA: On What Page ?
Leftie said, "I don't want Bill OR Howard building my bridges. I want the Government to do it. The way Eisenhower did it. I WANT Government beaurocrats, sometimes known as Engineers, who have nothing else to do than inspect steel on the project. I want people who don't have to answer to a company's bottom line on that one. Let the private sector sell fruit."

Leftie, on what page of the porkulus bill is funding for the Army Corps of Engineers listed? Just so the rest of us know this part of the engineering plan.


killer, ga
i just read your autobiography, the "arrogance of ignorance" even the arrogant ignorant occasionally get something right, but invariably dont know why. you write, " Each time a person makes a purchase,they are casting an affirmative vote. When they can no longer purchase,someone else has to step in. A lack of income has many impacts, because it arrests choice. " you are absolutely right, but you have no idea where that leads. in the united state, consumers have again and again chosen to purchase the cheap crap from china, casting an affirmative vote for china, and a death sentence on the usa. this is combined with u.s. citizens who consider themselves way too good to work, but not too proud to pick up a welfare or disability check. this too is a vote to kill america. and the kill america voters, just like the obama voters, "won", as the messiah so enjoyed rubbing in our faces. enjoy your "victory." perhaps you will be the recipient of one of the make work jobs so you can arrogantly lord it over the rest of the population until there is nothing left to mortgage, borrow, or steal. then you can join your inferiors in mutual poverty.

Brickhouse
Are you under the impression that there are no engineers working for the government other than the Corps of Engineers? I've built projects that are Government funded. They are usually administered by the Corps, or the Park Service, or (mostly) by the GSA. In any case, the oversight on Government jobs is ALWAYS vastly more stringent than on private jobs that are regulated only by the local Authority having jurisdiction. As a contractor, there is no question that Government jobs are desirable; they are not driven by the bottom line because that incentive is not there. But you can't get over on them, either. That may not be appropriate for the fruit seller, but it is without a doubt appropriate for public infrastructure.

Real jobs
What he thinks is real job is knocking doors(VIA )accorn to get idiots to vote demcrat!

SSG R
You said "My useless job
As a member of the military and an Iraq veteran, I'm thrilled to hear that Ben Shapiro thinks my government job is useless and doesn't contribute to our high standards of living. I always thought that supporting the troops was one of the TH propaganda machine's most cherished buzz phrases. You morons should get your messaging straight. Maybe then real consrvatism will have a chance in our country. "



-Thank you for your service, but you are the moron. I think you are reflexively shooting off your trigger when you happen to see a catch phrase as "government job." Yes, you have a government job, but if you read any deeper, you would realize Ben is not equating our military to some unnecessary paper pushing administration government branch. Military is necessary...but more government jobs other than that which do absolutely nothing to enhance the quality of our lives, plus, us tax payers PAY their salary? No.

Tell me, because you called folks like me a moron, since you clearly missed the point of the article, when did we last lay off the military?

B2 Are you a good person?
Because God couldn't care less if you are rich.
If you were good you would care about the poor. Jesus saw to it that the rich man that ignored the poor man at his gate burned in hell.
God also warned that he would not hear the prayer of those that refuse to hear the cry of the poor.
I, by the way, am not on welfare. In fact, I stated in my previous post I do not believe government handouts, are best. But I can tell, by your attitude, that they are a necessary thing. Selfish people would have us go back to a time when the poor died of starvation at the hands of the rich. (At least now in the US the poor only die of starvation if the use their foodstamps for meth.)
You have to care about people. At least you should pretend to if you want to get their votes.
This is a reply to post #103

Dead on
Great analogy. Sorry for those who took it too personally. For those who did I would clarify, the gov't is responsible for providing infrastructure and defense to the country. It is not the responsibility of the gov't to fund groups like ACORN, nor build stadium's for a given city. Those are the jobs Ben was referring to.

There are plenty of gov't agencies that are simply ineffective and wasteful, and provide no real benefit to America. These should go.

Disagree
I really enjoyed this artcle and agree with almost all of it, but I do disagree with the cool hand luke theory. I beleieve that when the government spends money on roads, wind tower energy, roadway lighting, ect. that it not only produces jobs for those doing the work, but it also stimulates our economy in so many other ways. For instance, Cool Hand Luke will need steel, concrete, heavy equipment, paint, tools, and many other items. Now the man in California could therefore be positively effected by the road being built in New York. I may be way off track here, so I would love feedback on this. vanantwerp_kale@yahoo.com

Alice In O's Utopia
Gordon Gekko would be laughing his arse off or crying.

Sure, Wall St. has been greedy, but everybody else has shared in the greed-fest. Be honest: How many of you have racked up debt?

Now, we have:

Oh, I need my mortgage paid off, my gas tank filled, a new bathroom, a new job because I've been employed at McDonald's for 4 1/2 years, my union job is kaput because that mean corporation had to close ... I need. I want. I have to have. Isn't this GREED?

"GREED IS GOOD" (as long as one remembers that the love of money is based upon LOVE, not money).

Since I have read Atlas Shrugged several times, I am off to Alice in Wonderland.... or, maybe, Alice in Obama's Utopia. Oh, and I am joining the 97%, who pay their mortgages, so I can join the 3% that do not.

shells1
Dear moron,
Shapiro didn't make any distinction between good government employees and bad ones. I don't know how "deep" I was supposed to go into the article to figure that out though. Also, we lay off people in the military all the time. Guess how many airmen, enlisted and officers, were let go in the past few years because we are retiring huge numbers of certain airframes. Some of us useless government employees are subject to market forces after all.
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