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Wednesday, September 03, 2008
Ben Shapiro :: Townhall.com Columnist
The Hypocritical, Woman-Hating Left Targets Palin
by Ben Shapiro
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"There is a special place in hell for women who do not help other women," former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright once remarked.

Where, then, are the liberal women when it comes to Alaska Governor Sarah Palin?

Palin became the first woman to grace a Republican ticket on Friday, August 29, when Senator John McCain selected her as his running mate. The following day, a diarist at the mainstream left-wing Daily Kos (Barack Obama himself appeared as a Kos diarist back in 2005) suggested without any evidence whatsoever that Sarah Palin's son, Trig, recently born and with Down syndrome, was birthed not by Palin but by her daughter. Andrew Sullivan of The Atlantic jumped on the bandwagon, demanding that the McCain campaign release Trig's medical records.

The rumor, of course, was demonstrably false -- Kos took down the post. Sullivan, however, stubbornly claimed that the questions about Palin's pregnancy were legitimate. And certain deranged leftist bloggers continue to speculate that Palin wore a padded suit in order to disguise her supposed non-pregnancy.

On Monday, September 1, Palin released the news that her 17-year-old daughter, Bristol, was pregnant, and that she would have the baby and marry the father. To Barack Obama's credit, he quickly condemned the focus on Bristol's pregnancy, noting that he was born when his mother was 18. But that made little difference to his followers. The left was already trembling with new paroxysms of delight. They immediately blamed Palin for her daughter's pregnancy.

"Sarah Palin opposes programs that teach teenagers anything about contraception," complained Ruth Marcus of the Washington Post. Max Blumenthal of The Nation obnoxiously wrote, "Could Bristol Palin have benefited from the sex education and contraceptives the GOP seeks to deny to public school students?" The New York Times writes that some wonder if Palin should have stayed out of politics in order to raise her family: "With five children, including an infant with Down syndrome and, as the country learned Monday, a pregnant 17-year-old, Ms. Palin has set off a fierce argument among women about whether there are enough hours in the day for her to take on the vice presidency, and whether she is right to try." A few commentators on the left have written that Palin should have told Bristol to consider abortion.

There is no question that the left's attachment to both the Trig Palin non-story and the Bristol Palin story are dramatic examples of sexism. Attacking a female politician's pregnancy without any evidence -- accusing her of lying about her own baby -- is simply sickening. Exposing a female politician's 17-year-old pregnant daughter and then implying that the politician is an unfit mother and should have stayed at home to tend to the children is simply discriminatory. Liberal women should feel free to oppose Palin's candidacy on policy grounds -- but they have the moral obligation to defend Palin from such sexist attacks.

When Palin accepted McCain's offer, she thanked Hillary Clinton for her breakthrough candidacy. Where is Hillary Clinton, defending Palin against such blatant sexism? After all, Clinton recognizes that sexism remains a prevalent force in American politics, saying: "The manifestation of some of the sexism that has gone on in this campaign is somehow more respectable, or at least more accepted, and ... there should be equal rejection of the sexism and the racism when it raises its ugly head." How about rejecting sexism when it raises its ugly head, Senator Clinton?

Where is Nancy Pelosi, Speaker of the House? "I'm a victim of sexism myself all the time," Pelosi recently stated. How about confronting sexism in its tracks, Madam Speaker?

Where is Katie Couric? "Like [Hillary] or not, one of the great lessons of that campaign is the continued -- and accepted -- role of sexism in American life, particularly in the media," Couric stated about Hillary's failed presidential bid. How about standing up against the continued role of sexism in American life with regard to a vice presidential nominee, Katie?

The Democrats' support of women's rights, it seems, is restricted only to the most convenient political situation: liberal women versus white males. When it's liberal women versus black males -- see Clinton vs. Obama -- the left dumps women's rights in favor of racial gains. When it's conservative women versus anybody, the left ignores women's rights completely.

For Sarah Palin, according to the left, it's back to the kitchen and the minivan. And for liberal women who sit by idly as Palin is excoriated for her gender, there's a special place in hell. At least according to Madeleine Albright. Who, so far, has said nothing.

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A heart-beat away . . .
. . . and, so dumb.

At least Ron is smart . . . but, wait, if he was smart he wouldn't be doing this for a living.

Is he producing any "wealth"? Naaah! Just wasting bandwidth and paper.

So Ron is as stupid as Palin.

But, again, McCain selected Palin. Is he dumb, too? Or is he just horny?

Pau

racism vs. sexism
Why is everything being said and questioned about Obama is called racism but everything that's said about Palin is considered free-game?

At least Palin doesn't have scores of involvements with terrorists and radical anti-American, anti-Christian and anti-Jew socialists.

You can't legitimately pull out the race card over and over so you don't have to answer crucial questions about one's background.

I don't hear Palin whining...
and I don't see a porn movie being made about Obama.
Oh, but that would be racist too right?
Give me a break!

Woman's RIGHTS
Palin is running for the second highest executive office. You better believe i want to know every dirty little secret about her.

People are looking into obama's possible muslim upbringing. People are looking into McCain's possible history of "bad flying." If Palin wants equal opportunity like the boys she better be ready for the scrutiny of the minutest aspects of her life!

If Women want equal opportunity, then they better be able to face the music. This isn't about gender. This isn't sexism. This is the American people looking for any kinks in the people who will have the most power. This is the American people looking for the best possible leader by analyzing ANYTHING that can tell them what they want to know.

Personally, i want to know everything about McCain/Palin and Obama/Biden

The secret behind y the left hates palin
The secret!:

Palin is so unqualified for office that people have to pretend there is an issue with her being a woman. I don't care about Palin's personal life unless it proves something diabolical. She is the farthest thing from evil. She is a very GOOD woman. The point that makes me worried is the fact that she has yet to show a working knowledge of the issues, She has little, almost non-existant, foreign policy experience and frankly she's not too bright!
I don't think the left are the only people that hate palin. So does the right. We don't need more Bush-like screwups. Palin is Bush's sequel.

Taft: What did you say?
My statement was quite clear.

Why doesn't the "Women's Movement" support Sarah Palin as she is being attacked for having a job and a family?

The answer is painfully obvious. It is because Sarah Palin is _conservative_.

Haven't they fought so that women can have a job and a family? Why do they not fight now that the MSM attacks her ability to have a job and a family?

Because they are Democrats _first_, not for women.

Ye olde double standard
Some are "more equal" than others, some are more "fair" than others, some are more entitled to free speech than others, some are just plain more "entitled" than others... The playing field has NEVER been level between libs and conservatives... I hope Palins "no nonsense" approach catches the hearts of some of these feminists and makes them realize how trivial they are... I find her bare bones approach refreshing.

Bristol is Trig's mom
The Republicans will not keep the truth from coming out. If she still want's to run for VP after telling the truth, it's OK with me.

Shapiro
You are so juvenile. Why don't you just keep
quiet.

Judy
On behalf of women everywhere conservative,republican,democrat,Independent and whatever, THANK YOU!!!!!

Karl, there is enough crow for all...
Michael Medved is eating some of his words right now, and he is actually beginning to enjoy it, as far as I can see.

Well, he can join the club with the rest of the professional-political-sportscaster types in 2008.

He gets to be a little wrong too this year. Oh well! Ha!

Medved on Palin
In May Michael Medved wrote:

"Governor Sarah Palin of Alaska? An intriguing possibility, because this athlete and former beauty queen has already inspired an admiring website called “America’s Hottest Governor.” At 44, she definitely brings youth (and charisma) to the ticket, but experience is a real problem: she’s been governor less than two years, and before that served only as mayor of the town of Wasilla (hardly qualification for leader of the free world).

This leaves only one credible female candidate…..

JODI RELL"

http://townhall.com/columnists/MichaelMedved/2008/05/28/the _gop_veep_list_pros_and_cons?page=2

Liberal Women defending Palin
Trust me, Ben, we're here and we're circling the wagons. Hillary's women are not going to let ANY American woman get anything less than a fair shake. We won't tolerate the attacks that Hillary experienced on any woman of any party. I belong to a pro-Hillary blog and we've been watching the scene closely. It's early days yet but we're sticking up for her wherever possible. We were already fed up with the msm and their sexism. We're only too happy to take them to task on Palin's behalf.

Palin's daycare arrangements
It's pretty obvious, for all those smart-nosed liberals expressing "concern" about who will take care of the Palin children. When Mrs. Palin is elected, Mr. Palin will take care of the Palin children. He is, after all, one of the two parents involved. Hmmm, how logical. And wouldn't you just think that for once, liberals and "progressives" would be glad to see a man willing to play a larger parenting role? But apparently not.

All the liberal MSM women aren't attacking Mrs. Palin because she is a woman or a mother. They are attacking her because she is a conservative.

And poor Bristol Palin. She is but a 17-year old girl who made a mistake and let her hormones run away with her. Like many MANY children in this country. She is to be helped and embraced and taught and led, not ridiculed, smeared and virtually stoned.

Anyone who truly believes in God must also believes that at some level, we are all accountable for our own actions and words. The many nasty, horrific words hurled at poor, young Bristol who made a mistake may just come back to haunt some of you liberals.

Oh, silly me. You don't believe in God, do you?

Democrats Ideal Woman...................
She is Gay, Power hungry and inept at being realistic.
She comes from wealthy family and attends Vasser, Harvard, Yale, or any one of the hundred Snobbery Elitest schools.
She was a wedgy so tight up her split she cringes in pain and the news thinks it a smile.
Child birth is 'Give me Drugs, drugs, drugs, and is limited to one perfamily unless your AFRICAN American, then it is obver run the welfare system with the brats.

Hey Benji Boy!

Pioneer in Women's Rights
The Greatest Story ever told portrays a man who, for his time, seems to have pioneered women's dignity and "rights." Jesus' close, but not THAT close relationship with Mary Magdalene is confirmed in the fact that she is among the first to "see" him after his death. Or, at least, the empty tomb. We recall Jesus' many encounters with women, encounters in which he treats them as equals, as "sisters."

They crucified him for his rebellious ways.

They are attempting to crucify Gov. Palin. But they would do well to recall the Greatest Story Ever Told--the person they humiliated, spat upon, scourged, stripped bare and tortured to death...this Person came back. Somehow, some way, this Person came back from all the humiliation culminating in death itself. This person lives. And we might even see a flickering of His Spirit tonight in Gov. Sarah Palin.

Enough already
You say that evangelicals are less sympathetic to those not in the circle than to those inside the circle. You couldn't be more wrong, as evangelicals and other Christians are the ones who fund the pregnancy help centers that are available freely to all in need.

Britney Spears' younger sis, for example, is a case in point. Yes it is sad that she is in the situation she is in. *However* it is important to look at the context in which she has lived. With an older celebrity sister who has problems of her own, and a mother who may well have been too preoccupied with helping Britney's kids to give her the attention she needed (I cannot believe she would have approved had she known of her younger daughter's goings-on) it is not surprising that this happened. I'm not implying wilful neglect on her mother's part, it's just the way things sometimes happen. That is the difference-no drama in the immediate Palin household like that of the Spears' so therefore it absolutely would have come as more of a surprise than it did for Britney's sister.

Enough Already!
My mom is dead, thanks anyway.

Sarah Palin...
2008's Geraldine Ferraro
Soon to be forgotten historical footnote

the trolls
are missing the point. The point is Sarah Palin chose to have her baby. HER baby is choosing life over abortion. Sarah Palin chose to have it all and is being ridiculed left and right by the women who all supported the feminist ways. I guess all that proverbial ball growth is to stab her in the back for what she has attained, hey? No atta-girls for her from the women who are not standing up and supporting her as an individual-not VP candidate. Holy cow. Hypcorit central. Katie Couric,Campbell Brown, Sally Quinn, Red Nanny, and Hitlary...I could go on, but why bother? you left-minded thinkers won't get it.

Taft
Howdy, nice to see you too!! You have GOT to come back to Colorado for fall colors and wildlife; the bucks are out though still in velvet and they are spectacular. Weather this week is wonderful; Indian summer is here. Yay!

Back to the fray, at any rate. :)

Your point is well taken, but Down's babies and their parents have an incredible network at their disposal for whatever is needed in terms of information and support. I'm not so sure her doing this now is necessariy a *bad* idea; I just see some are passing judgment on a situation none of us really knows anything about since we cannot after all walk in her shoes. She is clearly a woman who can run a three-ring circus so I'm not going to say she shouldn't. I know I couldn't! Truly I'd give her the benefit of the doubt-she and McCain (who was well aware of her situation beforehand) are a good pairing since neither are particularly addicted to the idea of wasting our hard-earned dollars and will take on the establishment, among other things.

Anyway I have to go run an errand so will be back later. Ta!

LIBERAL CLIFF IS CRUMBLING
Libs will grasp to anything lately in an attempt to accomplish the desire that is ever elusive to them: happiness. I can even see Campbell Brown needing to force smiles now. I get amused at DONT TREAD ON ME's post about Pelosi. Isn't she an attention monger?! She isn't a victim of sexism, she is a victim of her own narcissism mingled with stupidity. Her self importance is truly amazing. Gov, soon-to-be-VP Palin has more class and poise in her pinky finger than Pelosi has in her entire body, even the "enhanced and altered" ones. The demand for anti-depressants should skyrocket in November when a democratic candidate yet again gets beat. Perhaps they will never learn even after Gore, Kerry, and now BHO: don't put far left liberals on a ballot - guarantee to failure. Even Clinton was moderate and squandered the chance to salvage the Somalia debacle by not admitting to his weakness, apologize, and get on with America's business. Lying sunk his legacy. In my opinion, lying is worse than the mistakes.

Hey bostdork112...
Richard Cranium, oooh!!! That's the best you could come up with? Maybe if you wouldn't confuse LISTENING to someone with READING a post, perhaps you might just be able to move out of your mom's trailer.

wjriii
The reason I used Jax33's comment was because he stated the position that Bristol Palin wound up pregnant because she didn't listen to her mother. I simply was using that comment to state that nearly all teens who do get pregnant probably do so contrary to the advice of their parents.

And I have no issue with evangelicals. All I ask is why does there seem to be more understanding, support and sympathy for Bristol Palin from evangelicals than they have shown historically for other teen parents?

As far as the parents getting married - this is still a shotgun wedding. I agree that raising a child in a loving, happily married household is optimal. But being forced into marriage by the specter of a pregnant wife and a soon to be infant is hardly conducive to the environment a child needs to grow up in. All of the conditions in which folks married young were still primarily driven by the choice of two people in love. This marriage is driven by the arrival of a baby.

SteveL
Wow, by going back a year and quoting the much maligned on the left Rush Limbaugh, you think that makes hypocrits out of the rest of us who find the media's complete lack of journalistic integrity a problem.

I get this argument all the time from the left...here's the only problem with it...Rush Limbaugh isn't an anchor on a news network. Rush gives his opinion, right or wrong. Katie Couric is an anchor on a major news network. Chris Mathews who is unabashedly pro-democrat has moderated debates.

So, the old mantra of FoxNews being a right wing network is ridiculous in the sense that, although their opinion section is right of center (O'Reilly, Hannity -- although they balance him with Colmes), at least their anchors play it down the middle. The same is not true for PBS, MSNBC, ABCNews, CNN, CBSNews, BBC etc.

Lon
"Do you know any liberals who think that conservative women shouldn't work? I sure don't."

Liberals obviously don't think Sarah Palin should work.

The modern left has
always been bad for women. If you go back and look at the anti-war movement and black power movement in the 1960's you'll hear from women that were there that they were treated as second class citizens good for sex and supplying food.

Then you look at what they champion on the left:

No right to own guns: well guns are the great equalizer for those who are physically weaker (women)

Abortion on demand: Abortion hurts women, kills their children, and lets daddy's off the hook.

Casual sex: Well women can now have meaningless sex with men who don't give a damn about them without social stigma - isn't this great!

Career over family: Wait until it is difficult or impossible to have children due to age, that's surely what makes most women happy.

Taxing the family at high rates: So mom has to go to work whether she wants to or not.

No fault divorce: Meaning wives can be dumped at any time without any financial support even if they stayed home for 30 years etc. (although this has screwed many men as well in terms of child custody etc.)

Emasculating men: Single women have trouble finding real men who live up to their natural responsibilities to protect, provide, lead, etc.

for Lon
Lon asks: "Where is the supposed hypocrisy?"

The hypocrisy from liberals is in the sexist abuse they are heaping upon Sarah Palin (Ed Schultz calling her "bimbo," etc.), and the way they are dragging her daughter's travails through the mud in public. While having always denounced such sexist stuff for years in their own writings.

The sexist stuff thrown at Hillary Clinton in the just-concluded primary season was just as bad--and it was coming not from conservatives but from self-styled "progressives" like Keith Olbermann. It was stunning to see how sexist those "netroots" were when Hillary refused to roll over and play dead for Obama.

Compare that treatment to how lightly the media treaded when the National Enquirer reported that Senator John Edwards was having an affair. The mainstream media refused to touch the story for months. Whereas when it came to heaping sexist abuse on Hillary Clinton or Sarah Palin, the media wouldn't even wait one day before hurling the most vile stuff at them.


Aliveinhim
I am having trouble making sense of your charges of hypocrisy. Why does the fact that Palin, and possibly her daughter are pro-life make liberals hypocritical? As a liberal, I think Palin's daughter should be able to make her own choice based on her situation and I have no problem with the choice that her families spokesperson says she made. Where is the supposed hypocrisy?

I do not know what daycare option Palin uses, although I would hope that if she is Vice President, she would have some kind of arrangements in place so that she can do her job. What does that have to do with supporting federally funded childcare being hypocritical. Opposing abortion while opposing the kinds of programs that would decrease abortions is odd. But supporting choice on abortion while making it easier for mothers to carry to term is certainly not hypocritical.

Do you know any liberals who think that conservative women shouldn't work? I sure don't. There are some who point out the hypocrisy of women whose work is to argue that women shouldn't work. But I don't know any that object to women working. Your confusion may be in mistaking the reporters mentioned above for liberals.

bostguy112
Could it be that Obama can't handle sharing the limelight with Hillary, or could it be he is arragant enough to think he had the election in the bag so didn't need Hillary? Combination of both.

bostguy
If the msm picks up lies and innuendo, then shame on them, and if a democrat uses the lies then you're right. Btw, as pretty as Palin is, if she does wants to be VP, she should be treated just like any other politician.

for wjriii
wjriii writes: "You make the mistake of assuming conservatives, especially Evangelicals, punish transgressors in proportion to the strength of the position against the transgression."

Oh really?

The following is an excerpt from the Rush Limbaugh Show, a year ago, about Jamie Lynn Spears:

CALLER: Would you tend to think that a family in this position, though, wouldn't you think that there would be a more watchful eye as a parent to be watching over these kids so this doesn't happen to them?
RUSH LIMBAUGH: I would certainly hope so, but it's long past time for this to happen. The parents here are the culprits!


There you have it. In the case of Jamie Lynn Spears, Rush Limbaugh blamed Jamie Lynn's MOTHER for Jamie Lynn's behavior, including out-of-wedlock pregnancy.

But in the case of Bristol Palin, those exact same conservatives are excusing both Bristol and Sarah Palin.

Obama's kids are at risk of growing up
without a father present. It was good enough for him, so it must be good enough for his children.

Instead of grandparents to raise them though, he is counting on secret service guys doing double duty as the backup nanny.

AliveInHim
Hi, glad to see you blogging. From my perspective, a moderate liberal, who like many on our side think motherhood really is a great job, does it matter what the feminist think, but the fact, that with a small baby at home, who might have extra needs, and a daughter, who has others that need her around, that becoming a possible president isn't a great timing. Husbands can take over, to be sure, and maybe hers will. I don't think its sexist or bad to be wondering. AT any rate, liberals don't hate her.

Taft
Sure, in my mind the Kos is dangerous. They will post anything and everything. Then it somehow makes its way into the so-called msm. Like the down baby being Palins daughters and not hers. So if they do that sort of thing on a regular basis and the Dems go to their convention they must agree with what they do. Of course maybe they dont want to be smeared because they didnt show.

Bostguy
"it must mean something if all the Dem bigwigs (Obama - Clinton) go to the Kos convention. "

Could you fill me in, or are you joking?

Liberals are hypocrites
because that most sacred of cows (no pun intended) to liberal women, abortion, was not an option for either woman in the Palin family. So much for honoring "choice".

Liberals are hypocrites because the second-most sacred cow of liberal women, federally funded daycare, is not endorsed, much less used by Mrs. Palin and presumably will not be by her daugher either. So much for honoring the "choice" to take care of her children in a way that doesn't simply warehouse them with federal or state bureaucrats.

Liberals are hypocrites because the third-most sacred cow of liberal women, a professional career rather than family, or even family plus career, is apparently something that only liberal women may aspire to and/or succeed at. So much for honoring genuine achievement whether in raising a family or in the workplace.

Seems to me that instead of patronizing Mrs Palin with questions about her ability to successfully handle both the VP and her family situation, they'd be trotting out that old Helen Reddy anthem, "I Am Woman", or that old country tune (sung by a woman) that tells us she can bring home the bacon, fry it up in the pan, and never let you forget you're a man"!

western bondbeam
Of course he should have picked Clinton. But i totally understand why he didnt.

Taft
"A blogger, a "diarist" represents the whole of the democratic party?"

it must mean something if all the Dem bigwigs (Obama - Clinton) go to the Kos convention.

The thunderous amount of jealousy over
Palin only goes to show that McCain might have made a wise choice.

Funny though that the Biden choice scarcely garned a low whisper. Could Obama be second guessing his choice?




MikeR
If i lumped you in with that other nitwit my bad, he was the only one i was really talking to and he started changing names. The comment you mentioned from Adams was maybe 2 weeks ago i think. It wasnt exactly on top of my mind. But i stand by it. If you read enough on townhall (and i know you do) if you dont agree with the gay agrenda at some point Will or one of his buds say it must be because your secretly gay. Again if i was wrong to lump you in , my bad.

wjrlli
"Why do they not support Sarah Palin as her womanhood is being attacked?"

The only person that could mack that statement is a man who never helped raise his family. A mom is a better job than president of the USA.


Reality Bites
" The following day, a diarist at the mainstream left-wing Daily Kos (Barack Obama himself appeared as a Kos diarist back in 2005) suggested without any evidence whatsoever that Sarah Palin's son, .."

A blogger, a "diarist" represents the whole of the democratic party?

No one hates Palin. She is the cutest republican yet and who knows, her Christian values might finally put an end to Americas new torture regime.

Kilgore Trout: Hating women?
(I like your moniker. I know where it came from)

The thesis of the article is that "the women's movement" is not for all women, only those of the liberal persuasion.

Why didn't they complain about Bill Clinton's predations?

Why do they not support Condi Rice and Elizabeth Dole? Why do they not support Sarah Palin as her womanhood is being attacked?

The "Women's Movement" believes that women can have it all. Where is their outrage at the MSM's attacks to their principles?

Their support and their outrage is conditional.

Wake up!
Teen pregnancy is an epidemic in this country! No matter what your family values are or how much sex ed, or abstinence is taught at home or in the school is the bottom line is it happens, no matter who you are. I think it is refreshing that young women can see a high figure family go through difficult times and see that there is another option for them other than abortion, and see that life is not over or hopeless or that they have to hang their head in shame. I think that Sarah Palin and her family shows America a contrast to the choice of abortion that gets so much attention from the demacratic party and msm media. All that attention has reprocussion as well. I am Independent and in no way support taking the right to chose away, but this family has a chance to show the success of their choice of life, and I do not think young girls in this country get to see that side.

Enough Already! You don't get it part 2
Are you aware that during the Great Depression, 18 year-olds routinely got married and moved out of the house so as not to be a burden to their parents?

Are you aware that during WWII, people got married with extremely short engagements before the men shipped out?

What were the divorce rates at those times? Weren't these periods among the best examples of strong family values? Many people do not realize that marriage is much more than the raging love/lust that they experience at the beginning. It's GREAT!. And there will always be an element of this forever, but the relationship that is formed over the years is much more satisfying than pure lust. This understanding of true companionship developed through growing together is lost on the young in this time of instant gratification.

You must not have lived in different parts of the country. I grew up in an area where people got married both earlier and later in life. I now live in an area where they get married much more often earlier. Who are you to say that they have not considered their choices and do not know themselves and each other? Who are you to judge their choices? Do you know if this is a shotgun marriage or a joyful event for both of them and their families?

Obviously she didn't follow her parent's teaching because she got pregnant. Does Jax33 have special knowledge which we are not privy to? Instead of repeating Jax33's opinions, why don't you voice _your_ opinions.

I have not heard word one that Bristol is considered a special case, deserving different consideration. I have not seen any evidence that conservative's view of out-of-wedlock births has changed at all. Why do you believe that?

Is it because you expect something else from conservatives? Maybe you're mistaken in your expectations.

I agree that t would be wonderful if the Palin family's example helps pregnant teens and their parents to handle this situation better.

Enough Already: You don't get it, part 1
You make the mistake of assuming conservatives, especially Evangelicals, punish transgressors in proportion to the strength of the position against the transgression.

Yes, single motherhood is a sign of moral decline, and conservatives, especially Evangelicals work very hard to reduce out-of-wedlock births.

And, yes, there are hard-hearted, judgemental Christians, and there are extremely twisted people who have murdered in the name of pro-life. Did you notice that the Christian community decried their actions? Don't forget that not all of these were actually Christian. Those cases get a disproportionate amount of liberal MSM air-time.

What punishment do you think Evangelicals should levy against a pregnant teen? Do you expect Evangelicals to disown their child and kick them out of the house?

No. That is just one of the gross mistaken views of the left. The left expects that all of the religious right are hard-hearted and judgemental who can not forgive.

Hey! If they believe that even murderers can be saved if they accept Christ while sitting in the electric chair, why shouldn't they welcome a teen who's emotions and hormones overruled their head?

Who's judgemental?



Who says that there shouldn't be consequences to their actions? Do you believe that she should abort because his and her actions will cost them? I suppose that you believe, just like Obama, that she shouldn't be punished with a baby.

They are taking responsibility for their actions by marrying and accepting the gift of a life from God in the form of a baby. You may not understand that sadly.

And why wouldn't a loving, supporting family will help them through this difficult time?

Most importantly, why do you expect that Sarah would have to become the main care provider (liberal speak for mother)?

Your bias is showing.

I didn't know I hated women.
Do I really have to hate women? Is that the only way conservatives can rationalize why I can't support her?

Since I am a liberal and she is a conservative, her political philosophy is the problem I have. I can deal with a with the fact that she sits to pee.

Liberals are not hypocrites, we are just having a bit of fun with the fact that for years conservatives have been thumbing their noses and looking down upon people who don't meet their standard of "Family Values" and now your VP candidate's teenage daughter is pregnant out of wedlock. This is making you all backpedal a bit, and that is funny to me, a bit hypocritical, but funny nonetheless.

So I don't hate women, I love women. The only thing I am guilty of is finding humor in reading you folks here at Townhall justify this little dent in your Family Value armor.

new task for Lowry
Lowry is kind of stretching things here, but then he is not often in the position of having to try to defend claims of sexism rather than rebut them. Perhaps that is why he does not see the difference between defending women who cannot control their own reproduction or keep a roof over their house, vs protecting them from being criticized for their political views.

The same mainstream media that dodged questions of Edward's affair until evidence appeared dodged questions of the paternity of Palin's children (and quite rightly). Bloggers went with both stories.

And while Lowry says that opponents should go after Palin for her positions rather than her family life, the only mainstream quotes he give are precisely on her positions on issues. Her views on sex education and abortion are among her positions. In fact they are likely among the positions that got her this appointment (she isn't known to have taken all that many positions, certainly none on foreign policy to explain her choice).

Interesting article
Actually I think the democratic women in politics are beeing quiet becouse they do not want to be hipocrits. How effective is Hillary campaigning for Brack going to be now except on the abortion issue. I think McCain knew exactly what he was doing.

bostguy123
I don’t know what you mean by your 12:21 post. I have never changed my name since joining this blob several years ago, nor have I ever posted under any other name. I do find it telling that you question my maturity then use taunting words including a euphemism for d1ck head. My only point in this column is that some conservatives and liberals are hypocrites and play these same games when it comes to politics. Consider how Ben opens with a quote from Madeleine Albright. Since when has he or many other conservatives ever had a good word for her. As for my comment to you, here is the reference.

Real Men Don't Do Pornography
by Mike S. Adams

bostguy112
Location: MA

Reply # 111
Date: Aug 25, 2008 - 3:21 PM EST Subject: MikeR
John
“every time I see a homosexual "man," I absolutely (sic) cannot disassociate in my mind what it is he does sexually with other men” Now you really sound obsessed. No matter how much it may churn your stomach, you still can’t help yourself. Are you sure you’re not a little light in the loafers?

Ah, the old if you object to gay sex you are a closet gay theory, havent heard that one in .. oh 5 minutes or so.

Surprise left sexist
James "drag a hundred dollar bill" Carvel not run out of town by women's groups who claim to protect the dignity of women. James Carvel is all over the tv as a respected analyst.

Condi Rice, Clarence Thomas and all other republicans who happen to be black are said not to represent black values but don't try to develop an education policy because "they" think the same.

Leave the Muslem community alone because an Islamic terrorist may just as eaily be an elderly Swede calling home as a Muslem activist calling Afganistan.


for Enough Already!
Enough Already! writes: "as if all the other pregnant teens in America were encouraged by their parents to have unprotected sex."

Actually, it now appears that Bristol Palin *did* receive sex education that included discussion of contraception.

But as is often the case with inexperienced young people, the contraception either failed or wasn't used. Condoms have two known success rates--98% theoretical rate if they're used properly, and a less than 80% rate for the "average" error-prone way they're used in practice!

So I think this sexuality education issue is a red herring. Despite abstinence, despite birth control, some inexperienced young girls are still going to get pregnant, on occasion.

And that begs the question of what to do with them.

Since social conservatives are opposed to abortion (and I have problems with it too), they should demand adequate reproductive health care services for all girls in America, to ensure that the child can be properly cared for and a loving home found for the child after it is born.

But that part of the message hasn't been heard as much as the "stop abortion" part.

It's McCain, Stupid
I agree that Sarah Palin's private life should be her own. That's exactly what Barack Obama said when confronted with the news of Bristol Palin's pregnancy.
The issue here is not Sarah Palin -- but John McCain. When are the so-called "conservatives" in America going to demand some reasoned decision-making from their leaders? Sarah Palin gets picked as VP; the media start a feeding frenzy over the crazy issues surrounding the candidate (preganant teenage daughter, connections to Ted Stevens, lies about the "Bridge to Nowhere," membership in the Alaska Independence Party, etc.), and the "conservative" base uses the whole inevitable circus as an excuse to whine about the hypocrisy of the left.
Aren't you people tired of this garbage yet? Don't you get sick of relying on one person's "gut" to make every important decision for the entire country?
Obama may lack experience, but he won a hard-fought camnpaign fair and square. Sarah Palin got picked from out of nowhere to be second in line to the Oval Office. Bottom line: If she can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen.

Shapiro
Excellent article. NO punches pulled. If only the GOP had leaders who communicated this way. Keep it up, Ben.

Liberal commie America-hating dems
You want to know what principles this conservative has? You can do what ever you want to do, as long as you're willing to suffer the consequences of YOUR actions. Some actions have bigger consequences. Don't want to leave NO when a hurricane is coming in? Fine. Don't whine about what happens and don't expect to live with a gov't credit card in a a free trailer for 2 years claiming we don't care. This 18 year old kid is manning up (paying attention John Edwards?) As far as S. Palin, we all see what she is capable of doing. She has an impressive conservative American resume.

for swansong
"Can Shapiro cite a single Dem who's called his wife the "C" word, for example? No, ...."

Yes.
Ed Schultz, liberal talk-show host, called Sarah a "bimbo" on the air. So did the commentators on Democracy Now. No feminists or liberals complained. You want more examples, I'll provide them.

"but you can bet McCain has. He's a misogynistic little man who has voted down legislation that would help women in every way - child care, equal pay, the right to choose, proper sex education"

You need a dictionary.
There's nothing about "abortion" or any of those other things you mention in the definition of the word "misogyny."

But I think you have put your finger on what's really infuriating the Left about Sarah Palin: She is on the opposite side from you in the culture war. If it weren't abortion, it would be gun rights or something else. The only women you admire are those who are steeped in the rhetoric of the East Coast/West Coast feminist movements. Take a look at the National Organization of Women website, where they claim that "Peace [pacifism] Is A Feminist Issue."

Error in the article
The writer says, "Exposing a female politician's 17-year-old pregnant daughter and then implying that the politician is an unfit mother and should have stayed at home to tend to the children is simply discriminatory."

However, he forgets (or neglects to mention) that it was the McCain campaign and Sarah Palin themselves who volunteered this information. It wasn't "exposed" by any left-leaning blogger or reporter.

Nancy Pelosi has no shame
"I'm a victim of sexism myself all the time," Pelosi recently stated. And yet, not a word from her to shame the Liberals and the MSM into focusing on issues or legitimate questions (like maybe "Troopergate"). In her flop of a book, she exhorts others to act civilly, yet she retorts "Can we drill your brains?" to protestors in response to demands for new offshore drilling. Ugly.
Pelosi is a hypocrite. Liberals are hypocrites. Liberals only fool themselves. I look forward to watching my Liberal friends' disappointment and horror at the McCain-Palin victory in Novemeber.

enough already, Loyal Conservative,MikeR
Maybe i should call you Eve. As in the 3 faces of Eve. If i was you i would keep changing your name as it would be harder to follow your ramblings.
Widdle feelings? What are you in the 3rd grade.
So the groom went on youtube and said "i'm not going to amount to anything" Ok then.

Look there has to be something else , ANYTHING else for me to do than listen to your jive. I would agree with some of what your saying if you werent such a Richard Cranium.

bostgoof...
wasn't trying to hurt your widdle feelings. How can I make such an opinion about the marriage? For starters, the marriage came after the pregnancy, usually a very strong indication that the case is as I describe. Unless of course, you're going to insist that a teen couple had plans to marry anyway, and the pregnancy was coincidental.

As for the assumption about unprotected sex, touche! But whether it was protected or not doesn't make a difference, for the result is still the same. And the accounts of the potential husband actually came from a Youtube video made by the soon-to-be groom himself. Again, great to see those on the right defending teenagers who may have made errant choices as worthy of support and not simply write them off! So perhaps this attitude will even carry over to teens who have no connection to Sarah Palin, right?

Where are you from, P. Diddy?
"I don't even understand what planet you are on right now... Alaska? Alaska! Alaska? Come on man. I don't know if there is any black people in Alaska.."

Hey, P. Diddy, what planet are you on right now...New Jersey? New Jersey? New Jersey? Oh, Alpine, New Jersey. No black people there. According to census "The racial makeup of the borough ...77.37% White, 1.51% African American."

Liberalism is a disease
It attacks the brain, destroying brain cells and neural pathways, upsetting hormonal balances, and turns the poor sufferer into a rabid, nonthinking organism akin to a boiled turnip with rotten teeth. It is a tragic medical malady, and we should do all we can to stamp it out in our lifetimes.

wjriii 2 of 2
And what about her daughter's own development into adulthood? That too has been altered. No finding out who she's compatible with, what personality matches hers, no God-guided search to find the someone who completes her. Again, this is in no way designed to support abortion. The choice to keep the child is the Palin family's right to make. But these are the same decisions many pregnant teens and their families have to make and work through.

However, many on the right seem to assume that the VP nominee's daughter is a special case. Jax33 says that she didn't listen to her mother...as if all the other pregnant teens in America were encouraged by their parents to have unprotected sex. How this race will turn out is yet to be decided. But maybe - just maybe - the newfound conservative understanding and sympathies generated by Bristol Palin's pregnancy might carry over to other teens who are pregnant.

COMPLIMENT TO PALIN
This leftist media frenzy is evidence of sheer panic and fear by those wanting to elect democrats. Just when I think liberals have reached to an all time low, they surprise me. Targeting a 17 year old is tantamount to threat by association. It's as if they are saying: We know you (Gov Palin) are too strong psychologically and have a strong self-esteem for us to phaze you by our attacks, so let's see if you will sacrifice to save your child from our attacks". Notice to left: See mother grizzly bear with cub. I hope soon-to-be VP Palin publically berates the left tonight and adds an open challenge to focus their attacks on her. It shows how truly panicked and "below the deck" they are.

wjriii 1 of 2
The right has always been more understanding? That's laughable! Heck, just read some of the postings and columns on this web site! Does bombing a clinic that provides abortions count as being understanding? How about the understanding for teen mothers in general? Prior to this particular pregnancy, teen motherhood was considered one more symptom of an America in moral decline to many on the right. Now suddenly, these same voices are much more forgiving since it hits close to their VP candidate. And again, the fig leaf of marriage - which is exactly what it's being used for in this case - does not mitigate the fact that she is pregnant. And what does that mean?

For starters, what about college? Try doing that with a baby in tow. Not impossible, sure. But a daunting task nonetheless. That includes the father as well, since if he is going to marry her, he is now assuming the responsibilities of husband and provider. So odds are he won't be seeing college anyime soon either. That is, unless Sarah Palin decides that she'll be her grandchild's primary caregiver.

palin attacks will backfire
Many of the democrats in my family have heard the gutsy story of Ms Palin and have come to admire her. Working as a fisherman she understands hard work. She has the calluses to prove it. On the other hand, Mr Obama's hands are soft and perfectly manicured.

We need real guts in the White House. The days of the metrosexual are over. Goodbye Obama!

Loyal Conservative
"Read the post again, mo-r-on. I was really focusing on the decision to marry the guy, not the decision to have the baby. Having unprotected sex was a mistake. Choosing to have the baby is not. Marrying a guy who by many accounts sounds like he's going nowhere fast is a mistake"

Wow , you really hurt my feelings, but let me see if i can respond.
How do you know they had unprotected sex? Condoms never fail? Birth control never fails?
i dont know if it was unprotected or not but neither do you. "By many accounts the guy is going nowhere". Let me guess those accounts came from hmmm Daily Kos or some other such source. And lets not forget the fact that you have basically written off a kid that is 17 or 18. How do you know what he is capable of doing with his life.

"Somehow the whole "marrige" seems to be an issue driven more by those who want to keep up appearances than by those interested in the welfare of either the daughter, child, or for that matter, the dad. "
Again where do you come up with this feces, you have no idea what went into the decision for them to get married, but I'm a moron, lol

MikeR
When did i call you out?

Dear Bristal,

Hang in there girl. My dear wife of 26 years was in the same boat as you 27 years ago. A wonderful mother and lover she is. No regrets. Tell that man of yours to listen to Kenny Chesney's "there goes my life".

Its the story of mine.

Sarah Palin
Thanks to the author for his expose of the hypocracy of the left. They have long been hypocrits on many issues (e.g., benefiting from the security provided to America by its strong military, while condemning that same military).

In this, the left is like its Euro brethren, the French, who, having had their backsides saved by the U.S. now denounce the U.S. out of the cowardice which prevents them from joining in their own defense.

Sarah Palin has many, many fans and supporters out here in the real America. She is, and will continue to be, worthy of our confidence.

Assault on Mr. Palin

"With five children, including an infant with Down syndrome and, as the country learned Monday, a pregnant 17-year-old, Ms. Palin has set off a fierce argument among women about whether there are enough hours in the day for her to take on the vice presidency, and whether she is right to try."=quote

The answer to this charge is that thing the deranged left seeks to destroy, namely family.
As a father myself, I would take such reasoning as an assault against me and my ability, as well as that of my older children. Not only that, but all the grandparents were right there when needed. This argument assaults them too.

I helped with my baby sister (12 years difference). The experience not only solidified the bond I feel with my sister, it prepared me for fatherhood.

Hang in there Mr. Palin, posterity and parents. Some of us out here remember you and thank you for lending us one of the anchors of your family.

Bristol Palin
I heard all those lib experts say,see abstinence doesn't work.Hey idiots Bristol did not listen to her mother big surprise how many teens do?

Hypocritical Woman-Hating ABC News
ABC News has rapper Diddy's video on the ABC News website as one of the "top videos." Diddy is sending a message to Senator McCain because he selected a woman from Alaska as his running mate. In the video, Diddy says "Diddy Obama Blog #16. Attention John McCain. My name is Diddy. You may know me by my government name, Sean Combs, but my friends and family call me Diddy, aka Sherak(?) Obama... I have to tell you that you are buggin the f*** out... I don't even understand what planet you are on right now... Alaska? Alaska! Alaska? Come on man. I don't know if there is any black people in Alaska. John, come on. Sarah P? If you really think we're going to let you win this election with these crazy decisions you're making, you're buggin... John McCain is buggin the f*** out... She's a heart beat away. Then she the president and she gonna be on the phone to South Korea or like? What in the hell? Alaska? You should have gotten Michelle Obama to be your running mate... This one here (Palin) is not respectful to our diverse lives. You would let her keep your kids?... No, you are buggin the f*** out... Sarah Palin, that is completely irresponsible... I gotta make sure that all young people, all the forgotten ones come out ...and vote in record numbers because you are buggin the f*** out John McCain... Alaska, mother f***er? What is the reality of that? There's not even no crackheads in Alaska. There's not even no black people. There's not even no like crime or like crime policies. Yo'all may be versed on foreign policies. Yo'all need to get versed on black policies... We the future."

Here is the video on Youtube. It's easier to find because there is not a direct link to the video on the ABCNews.com video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UQ_ZO636HI

Vermin
I'm certainly glad that the amoral left has finally found its outrage about something. Crucifying a young girl is a valiant endeavor for the media. This is the same pit of vipers that has glossed over significant scandals involving adults such as Ted Kennedy, MLK, JFK, Bill and Hillary, Obama, Jackson, and Edwards. Does anyone remember the journalistic zeal that accompanied the investigation of these people? I don't. That is because the media was busy protecting them from exposure. Q: What kind of person seeks the destruction of an under-age girl? A: The media vermin.

Liberal women
lost all credibility when they either openly supported or silently supported sexual harassment from pro abortion politicos (Clinton, Kennedy, Dodd, etc) but wanted Thomas, Packwood hung

Try these as well
The Hypocritical, Black-Hating Left Targets ...

The Hypocritical, Christian-Hating Left Targets ...

The left is so predictable. All you have to do is change the description and the name. The left s morality ,hates conservatism and s anyone associated. Doesn't matter what gender or color they are.

bostguy123
It’s too bad you didn’t stop by Mike Adams column. You would have had the opportunity to call out an Adam’s supporter the same way you called me out.

Right wing spin fascinates me.
You guys on the right have forgotten your "values." It's precisely YOUR OWN hypocrisy that is disarming.

Maybe you should go to the Family Research Council's website and get a refresher course on what you've been preaching the past, oh...30 years.

Amazing.

Loyal Conservative: Right vs. Left
*** "But in all honesty, it's always humorous to see both th right and the left switch roles here: folks on the right are suddenly much more understanding about teen pregnancy, and the left are now more judgmental - although some of that judgmentalism stems from the right's hypocrisy now that one of their own falls into the same category. " ***

The right has _always_ been more understanding. Understanding has _nothing_ to do with strength of belief. It is the left's caricature of the right which leads them to believe that the right would disown and throw unmarried pregnant teens out on the street.

The left has _always_ been more judgemental. Wear fur, and you get paint thrown on you. Campaign against abortion and you are fascist nazis controlling women's wombs. Speak at a college and have your talk interrupted and possibly stopped by angry, chanting students. Have many successful radio shows and have Congress attempt to shut them down in the name of "Free Speech".

Who are the jack-booted thugs?

of course
Did anyone expect things to be different? I think Palin will make a fine VP and I liked her speech after the announcement. But other than that, I think that Loyal Conservative pegged it. Both sides are filled with hypocrisy and both sides switch roles when thrown a curve ball.

bostidiot...
Read the post again, mo-r-on. I was really focusing on the decision to marry the guy, not the decision to have the baby. Having unprotected sex was a mistake. Choosing to have the baby is not. Marrying a guy who by many accounts sounds like he's going nowhere fast is a mistake.

Somehow the whole "marrige" seems to be an issue driven more by those who want to keep up appearances than by those interested in the welfare of either the daughter, child, or for that matter, the dad. But in all honesty, it's always humorous to see both th right and the left switch roles here: folks on the right are suddenly much more understanding about teen pregnancy, and the left are now more judgmental - although some of that judgmentalism stems from the right's hypocrisy now that one of their own falls into the same category.

More Double Standards
Katie Couric selfishly pursued her career even as her spouse died. Her reckless disregard for family was no doubt an inspiration for Sarah Palin.
Where was the outrage when Ms. Couric persevered to crack the media glass ceiling?

The whole thing is there for the world to witness and smell, the reek emanating from the hypocritical bias of the left.

Curt
Houston

IowaPat


Read Karl's post.

Even DailyKos disavowed the idiocy about Trig's parentage

Swansong:
try Ludacris raps in support of Obama.

Try the Dem bloggers that were against Hillary.


Loyal Conservative
"Please convince me that McCain found the best VP candidate - someone who could lead the country if he is incapable of remaining in office. Please tell me that this is not pandering at its best."
____________
On August 29th in the early morning, I was crossing my fingers for Romney as the VP choice, but so were the Dems. They had every anti-McCain sound bite, video clip, and anti-Mormom propaganda just waiting to hit the airwaves once Romney would've been announced. If McCain did choose Romney, it would've been a tough fight.

But McCain knocked the wind out of the MSM and the entire democratic party by picking Palin. They didn't see her coming and had nothing on her except her family. McCain did take an opportunity also to usurp as many as those 18 million voters he could grab that Obama and his Ego turned his back on. That's the pander aspect.

As far as the brilliant aspect, even if She were a He, she brings to the conservatives what the party felt was slipping away. She's a member of the NRA and Pro-Life. She also cut her government waste down by 15%, made the political hacks resign their positions in office, cut taxes, she took on big oil and won, and she wants to drill drill drill. She also has the highest approval rating as governer in the entire country....80%.

Her resume in my opinion is by far thicker than Obama's who thinks he's entitled to run our country.

She also has no connection, financial support, or political support from folks like Rezko, Ayers, Dohrn, Wright, Al-Mansure, Farakhan, Hamas, Chavez and Castro.

Politically, she is a proven person who has doen great things in such a short time, if you consider 1994 a short time ago, and she is a blank slate when it comes to political skeletons. She's clean.

To attack her family only proves the Left is very much in fear of this woman.


Loyal Conservative
" While I certainly wish the future bride and groom the best, this just has the makings of another teen couple that compounded the mistake of unprotected sex with the decision to marry. "

So they shouldnt get married, I know deep back in that peebrain of yours your thinking hey, a few hrs in the doctors office , problem solved. Of course by Dem standards there is plenty of time left. Seemingly up to a few minutes after he/she is born.

tahssard
Your kidding right? Does it get any lower than saying the down syndrome baby was her daughters and not hers. With absolutely no proof.

A few things
First, you lefties screaming for DNA testing of Trig -- I assume you've been just as vocal screaming for DNA testing of the suspected love child of John Edwards. No? Then shut up.

Second, this is just another BIG. BEAUTIFUL example of leftist hypocrisy. No people on earth are more so.

To back up what Ben here is saying, just check out what Sally Quinn has been whining about since the Palin selection. "Can she do this and be a mother? She should be home with her children instead of trying for the White House." Or words to that effect.

SHEESH! Can anyone reading this just imagine these same lefty women saying that about ANYONE on their side???!!!?!!!??

HYPOCRITS!!!!!!!

Tired of all the liberal cr@p?
Stop by my blog and read "The Audacity of Victory."

Forget the libs and their cr@p.

They can scream all they want, but when the smoke clears, we'll be the audacious victors.

Let's have a loud HOORAH!

Fury and Liberals Scorned
To borrow an old phrase, “H*ll has no fury like a liberal scorned”. That I think sums it up nicely. The so-called feminists really care NOTHING for the “rights” and success of women. All they care about is pushing the liberal agenda of abortion at any stage and socialism. If you stray from that path you will be attacked. If you are a woman, and most particularly a conservative woman, you will not only be attacked, but you, your family and every friend you ever had will be vilified with lies and innuendo. It also works the same way with the professional black movement. If you are a conservative black you will be vilified as well.

And Iowa PatN

Since you are posting your idiot drivel in every column I’ll post the answer:

When are you going to submit the results of DNA testing to show what kind of animal you are?

Trig's DNA Testing
The liberal moonbats who for some reason think they have some 'right' to force DNA testing on a baby to disprove a theory that has already been completely discredited need to go back under the rock in their backyard. We'll let you know when the election is over.

Talent Scout: No hypocrisy here! :-)
The left accuses the right of not living up their standards, not because the left shares the value in question.

That's how Palin can be questioned if she can hold office and have a 4 month-old Down's syndrome baby. It would not be a problem for any female Democrat candidate, but the left perceives hypocrisy because they think that the right wants their women barefoot, pregnant and in the kitchen. So, they attack Palin.

A right-wing questioner of Hillary Clinton's mothering skills would have been skewered, sliced and diced, and then ground to dust, because the left doesn't value the stay-at-home mom.

----------------------------------------------
Being amoral means never having to say you're sorry.

ArcXIX
The Trig story began with a blogger named ArcXIX and was refuted on Kos immediately:

http://dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/8/31/234157/516/1017/581 734

You can find more - and I mean way more - nut jobs on TH who believe Obama is Muslim than Kosacks who believe Sarah is not Trig's mom.




Sexism?
There is a new breed of educated nit wits out there that think we as a nation should support baby obliteration even if we don't believe in it. I wish you would exercise your "choice" by paying for it out of your own pockets instead of reaching into the pockets of citizens who could use the near 400 million dollars to support a real need out there like hunger, homelessness, medical reform that would make sure that senior citizens who have worked hard and payed taxes all their lives had enough money to live on,to eat and get much needed medical care that is denied them. I believe in choice .Make a choice to have enough brains not to get pregnant in the first place ,and when you make a bad choice , deal with the consequences that follow ( like responsibility for your own actions without running to Uncle Sam when you make a "boo boo").America is tired of your mealy mouth agenda that is just another welfare attitude getting in line to "get theirs".I am sick to death of people crying that they are discriminated against because their brand of perversion is questioned by the conservative point of view .You know you are wrong , and yet you will still dare to march into hell believing that humanity has changed so much that God will honor the change . There is nothing new under the sun that hasn't been done already, but don't miss an opportunity to recognize that you might be so blinded by your zeal that you don't see things for what they are or are not.The beginning of life is initiated at the time of conception . As soon as the sperm impregnates the egg there is a life that begins and a human being starts the different stages of growth, and that little life gets no "choice" when you decide that he or she is inconvenient.

It's tough for you commie liberal dems..
to be faced with old fashion American values. Remember them? My cousin got knocked up at 16 and the boy "manned up" and married her. 35 years, and 4 kids later, they're still doing fine. That's taking responsibility that used to be the American way, until all you spoiled little self serving punks cried your way into today's cesspool of morality. JFK was the LAST real Democrat President. No abortion, no welfare queens, just "ask not...." What have you morphed into today? The party that puts a communist seeking neophyte as your party's representative. Read Obama's book! He admits it! And that's your "best hope" for Amerika?

It's never been about women
The Women's Lib Movement was never really about women. It was always about LIBERAL elitist women and was NEVER all inclusive. Ask any conservative woman who lived through the fifties, sixties and seventies.

It's all about the leftist/Marxist ideology, and the elitist snobbery of the "White Ivory Towers" socialist indoctrination.

For the "Average" American woman who has bought into the left's hogwash that every woman can do anything and has the support of the "SISTERHOOD", sadly, they have been duped, BIG TIME.

Gov. Palin just doesn't fit the prototype, so she's not in the "SISTERHOOD" and never will be. She is anathema to their beliefs and they will vilify, excoriate, condemn, and hate her for it.

Lets talk about
Obama's mother
She was an unwed 17-18 year old herself.

Then what about all the problems with the Kennedy children.

Anyone ever see the democrats attacking any of them over their own problems with young people?

Nah, they truly are hypocrites

This is richly full of lying hypicrisy
"Sarah Palin opposes programs that teach teenagers anything about contraception," complained Ruth Marcus of the Washington Post.

Max Blumenthal of The Nation obnoxiously wrote, "Could Bristol Palin have benefited from the sex education and contraceptives the GOP seeks to deny to public school students?"
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Are these people trying to convince us, the kids who go to public schools do not get pregnant because public sex education has worked so well?
(snort and snickering)

If this were not so deeply ignorant, it would sound like an intentional joke at public education.

Which of course is a joke.

They just do not deal with the real world do they.

quote:
"As of 2004, the number of live births to teenage mothers across the United States was 415,408. And the number of births to teenagers in the United States aged 15-19 was 41.2 out of a 1,000.

Unfortunately the United States still has the highest rate of teenage pregnancies when compared to other counties of similar status."

http://www.pregnantteenhelp.org/articles8.html

AS usual
Try sticking to the facts and don't use real people as a way to go off on some theoretical rant.

So, is it sexism?
Sexism is the issue of the article. The question is why 'womens groups' are not rallying around Sarah Palin. The answer is easy: She is not in favor of killing unborn babies. That's it. Oh, and she has an 'R' next to her name.

One last thing...
And as long as the daughter's pregnancy is known, a few other points. Keeping the baby she's carrying is certainly her choice, and kudos to her. However, who believes that the answer to all of the issues that are raised is to have a 17 year old marry the baby's father? I'm sure that plays perfectly into the conservative worldview of marriage as the panacea to all of the woes befalling America today, but I would argue that neither teen pregnancy nor teen marriage are good ideas. And to announce that the soon-to-be parents are marrying sounds like another effort to pander to hard right conservatives. While I certainly wish the future bride and groom the best, this just has the makings of another teen couple that compounded the mistake of unprotected sex with the decision to marry.

Ms. Palin
Always good to see the shoe on the other foot. All of the things conservatives decry - teen pregnancy, overly ambitious women - suddenly with the blatant pick of a woman designed primarily to capture disaffected Hillary voters, conservatives abandon those positions anad jump on the Palin bandwagon. Please convince me that McCain found the best VP candidate - someone who could lead the country if he is incapable of remaining in office. Please tell me that this is not pandering at its best.

The more the Democrats protest
Sarah's nomination, the better I feel about John McCain's choice. If she were not a threat, there would be silence and indifference. I have been through enough elections to realize that most of what is spoken and written during the campaigns is partisan hype, designed only to get one's own candidate elected. You have to shovel through the crap and look for motives. All I need to see are the angry frowns on the faces of my surprised liberal friends, and I sleep better at night. Eat your hearts out, libs! You've been out-foxed at your own game. The American people are looking for authenticity (for their CHANGE).

Dems mild...
there is a real double standard here between the incredible hysterics over very mild dem comments and the attack dog tactics of the right over any slightest personal eccentricity of the left (See chuck Norris comment on the obscure fact that Rep. Pete Stark is a non-theistic Unitarian-Universalist). Apart from the burstingly obvious comment concerning the incredible irony of Gov. Palins opposition to realistic sex education the dems have deliberately and quite obviously laid off any attacks on Palin over this, led by Sen. Obamas hands off comment.
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