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Wednesday, February 21, 2007
Ben Shapiro :: Townhall.com Columnist
Would The United Nations Stop An Asteroid?
by Ben Shapiro
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Scientists reported this week that on April 13, 2036, an asteroid has a 1 in 45,000 chance of hitting Earth. The good news: No Tax Day, 2036. The bad news: An entire city or region could bite the dust.

"We need a set of general principles to deal with this issue," explains former astronaut Rusty Schweickart. To that end, scientists are calling on the United Nations to take action. The Association of Space Engineers will present a plan to the UN in 2009 involving the construction of a "Gravity Tractor," which would alter the course of potentially threatening asteroids.

You can just imagine what the UN member states will have to say about this idea.

IRAN: "Space is a decadent Western lie. It does not exist. Asteroids are no more real than the Zionist Entity. It is possible, however, that the 12th imam is riding this so-called space rock. In that case, we can only hope that he steers it into a large building in a major American city."

CHINA: "Such use of space simply escalates the global arms race. Who is to say that America will not construct such a 'Gravity Tractor' in an attempt to nullify our missile capabilities? Of course, we were never thinking of using such missiles anyway, but it's the principle of the thing!"

VENEZUELA: "This is a plot by the Bush administration to escape culpability for America's part in the global warming crisis. Satan W. Bush is deflecting attention from the fact that America is heating Earth up like a giant microwave. Bush is hoping that the asteroid hits Venezuela, ending the global warming crisis by blotting out the sun."

NORTH KOREA: "Kim Jong Il is the Lode Star of the 21st Century, the Master of the Computer Who Surprised the World, Power Incarnate with Endless Creativity, Guardian Deity of the Planet. Fear not, Earthlings! Kim Jong Il will save us yet. By the way, will saving Earth get Kim Jong Il a headline? He'd really like one."

SAUDI ARABIA: "This all stems from the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. We will be proposing a seven-point plan designed to create a Palestinian state."

MEXICO: "All we ask is that the prospective inhabitants of this asteroid be allowed free emergency medical care in the United States."

FRANCE: "There is nothing to worry about. When the asteroid shows up, we will provide token resistance before allowing it to roll down the Champs-Elysees. Wait, are you saying that this thing could hit the Louvre?"

CUBA: "This asteroid represents the impending victory of international communism. The exploitation of the bourgeoisie has created an underclass that will rise up in the aftermath of this glorious strike against capitalist society."

RUSSIA: "Is there any way we can sell pieces of this rock? Anybody?"

SWITZERLAND: "We will do everything in our power to prevent this asteroid from hitting Earth. Unless that means doing something. In that case, we'd prefer to stay out of it."

On September 21, 1987, President Ronald Reagan spoke before the United Nations. "Perhaps we need some outside, universal threat to make us recognize this common bond," he said. "I occasionally think how quickly our differences worldwide would vanish if we were facing an alien threat from outside this world. And yet, I ask you, is not an alien force already among us? What could be more alien to the universal aspirations of our peoples than war and the threat of war?"

It was a nice sentiment, but Reagan was mistaken. The UN would not be able to get together over something as simple and universal as the threat of an asteroid striking our planet. They would quarrel and babble; they might send a slightly perturbed radio message to the asteroid. And, in the end, the asteroid would nail us.

What hope, then, for the UN actually coming together to mitigate the threat of war by hemming in aggressive and hostile countries like Iran and Syria? The probability that one of the two nations will foment major acts of terrorism is far higher than 1 in 45,000. Yet the UN will do nothing.

The good news: We have 29 more years before we have to worry about the asteroid. The bad news: We don't have anywhere near that kind of time with our earthly foes.

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glasser re: Dig this
"maybe the next terrorist strike will hit the UN building. That would be a big mistake by the Rads, except, if Hillatola is President, she may respond to that."

Not a chance. The Bilderbergers would slap down the entire Islamic jihad movement by the time the debris settled if that were to happen. IOW, it would be the leaders who dispatch the "suicide bombers" while sitting back and watchin who would get it in the neck, so to speak.


Peppermint
"I do not espouse to the "reasoning" behind the Islamic radicals is the Iraq war. These radicals have been fomenting for a very long time, long before that war. It's just one more excuse they use (or other individuals) to try to make the West out to be the problem for their murderous intentions."

That's for sure. Different spokesmen for Islam have openly called for a global caliphate under Shari'a law. The head of CAIR speaks platitudes about being peaceful and wanting to be left alone when speaking in public but calls for activism aimed at making Islam the only religion and the Koran the only religious book permitted.

We shouldn't be surprised at this; Mohammed was a rapist, mass murderer and slave owner. No wonder he invented a religion to make those acts respectable. The Arabic word "dhimmi" means "protected person" but "protected" like a piece of property; IOW a slave. Well, I ain't ready for dhimmitude.

Bulls Eye!
Ben, you hit the bull’s eye on this one. Perhaps we can use our vast conservative conspiracy to steer the asteroid right into the UN. That would be another bull’s eye!

Peppermint...
.. As you're apparently incapable of spelling the word "Britain", you're evidently unqualified to comment on British (or should that be "Britonish"?) politics and social issues. Try again in a few years.

Fergus.....
how have i been stupid or credulous? Most of my information was from Amnesty international (I would consider them reliable), or wikipedia, which is (usually) neutral. I hardly claimed the UN is perfect only provided examples and facts of when they had achieved good things.


And Another Thing
Liberal talking points are oh so frequently based on assumption, rumors, rewritten history, misbegotten conclusions, if in person, talking louder and over the opposing view, and always, if necessary, character assassination of the holder of the opposing view. How do they convince anyone?

Oh sorry, I forgot Hyannisport
Yeah, we need it to break up into four pieces. The others as I stated in my previous post and another chunck about 200 yards in diameter to hit a certain compound in Hyannisport...hopefully during some holiday gathering. That would make another American Century a certainty.

UN = Useless Numbskulls
The UN can't tie its own shoes. We ought to take a wrecking ball to the whole building. I do hope that the asteroid breaks into two or three pieces before it hits. Let's see, a chuck about a mile wide on China. Another one about a half a mile wide in the Iran area, and a third chuck, about 1000 yards wide on Mexico. That would solve a lot of our problems wouldn't it? Maybe then the 21st century would be another American Century, despite the stupidity of our government.

You know, the asteroid that killed the dinosaurs paved the way for the mammals and us, so I like ateroids that collide with the earth. As long as they aren't too big and hit the right places.

Dig This
maybe the next terrorist strike will hit the UN building. That would be a big mistake by the Rads, except, if Hillatola is President, she may respond to that.

Gunny
Heh heh heh.

AlBore should be the first entrant, no doubt.

The bloviation of his gaseous emmissions should negate the atmospheric and gravitational restraints that would impinge on the acceleration factors speeding such a projectile toward its intended target:

OBLIVION!!!!

Oh, man, what can I say? Sometimes I just have to put that ole engineering degree to good use.

I, of course, am proudly NOT environmentally conscious, as I consider the whole "green" thang a bunch of hot air (if you get the joke).

Jeez, sometimes I crack myself up.

"Save a tree; put a lumberjack out of work!"

How come the libs, who love the "workingman", don't have THAT sticker on their bumpers?

BrianR
Just being enviromentally conscience. The more bloviating libs we pack in there, the farther the CO2 levels will plummet!

Gunny: LOL
Weeeelllll.......

You wrote: "Can we fill empty office space with liberals like Chappaquiddick Ted?"

I think ole Shamu Teddy won't need any companions to "fill the bill", so to speak.

BrianR
I second your idea. Can we fill empty office space with liberals like Chappaquiddick Ted? His weight will lend a hand on impact.

Mt Rose. Damn!
I should have read all the posts before writing. I see we had the same idea.

Sorry for even the appearance of plagiarizing.

A suggestion
As to the title question: Would the United Nations stop an asteroid?

I suggest we load the UN building and all the delegates onto a very large space vehicle and shoot it directly at an asteroid to see the results.

The outcome will be very amusing, no matter what happens.

United Nations VS Asteroid
I say launch the whole d@mn building into outer space and see if we can knock the asteroid off its path!

Make sure the deligates are all inside at the time.

And invite Hugo Chavez to speak there that day.

abc123
Are you honestly this stupid and credulous, or are you another parodist like LoyalDemocrat?

The Mother of all asteroids
I read somewhere that this "killer" asteroid is only 400 feet in diameter.

A big nuke should be able to smash it into little pieces which would burn up in our atmoshpere. Let's get Red China to do it.

no...
sanctions on north korea and iraq have crippled them iran has only had the sanctions on for a little while.

The war in sierra leone is over you are wrong to say it continues.

The war in congo is greatly reduced and free elections have been held. AI describes the peace process as "well established".

A new democratically elceted Gov is in power in HAiti

Liberia's war ended effectively in 2003

Sudans governement is hostile to the UN peacekeepers. They are shot at by militias

Rapeswise... 150 allegations have been made in DRC to put that in context aI estimates 45,000 were commited "last year in one province alone" according to AI.

I dont know about the Balkans but the UN gave its blessing to NATO.

"On 11 August 2006 the United Nations Security Council unanimously approved UN Security Council Resolution 1701, in an effort to end the hostilities. It was accepted by the Lebanese government and Hezbollah on 12 August 2006, and by the Israeli government on 13 August 2006. The ceasefire took effect at 8:00 AM (5:00 AM GMT) on 14 August 2006. [151"........ wikipedia







To abc123cba
The gulf war (1) coalition that united the world

Res: This was the work of the US, not the UN.

The Balkan conflicts intervention

Res: Surely you jest! The UN was NOT involved in this “intervention”. Klinton started the intervention without the UN (or congress) using NATO.

The ending of the israel-lebanon conflict this summer

Res: The UN had nothing to do with this. The Israelies caved in under pressure from the US.

Intervening in Congo, Haiti, Liberia, and Sudan

Res: This is an example of failure. The wars continue and the rapes occur.

2000 intervention in the sierra leone civil war.

Res: Same as above

Sanctions applied to Iran, Iraq and N korea (Axis of evil)

Res: Another joke. Sanctions did nothing but make some of the UN rich through bribes and corruption.

The rest of your post is equally aberrant.

UN
Oil for food scandal. Yeah, they do a lot of good things.
Get them out of our country, the tax sucking sycophants!

Examples
The gulf war (1) coalition that united the world

The Balkan conflicts intervention

The ending of the israel-lebanon conflict this summer

Intervening in Congo, Haiti, Liberia, and Sudan

2000 intervention in the sierra leone civil war.

Sanctions applied to Iran, Iraq and N korea (Axis of evil)

This is just what I can think of.

Furthermore "Buzzkat" Tolstoy choose to join someone else as a defendant against a former British army officer he had implicated not the government, and he WON his court case in the ECHR. Doesn't that leave his human rights intact? (wikipedia was my source)

More so than those in Guantanamo bay certainly.

And in the article.........
1) the french have intervened in the Genocide in Darfur much more effectively than the USA!
2) Switzerland might be neutral but they're only little its not thier fault
3) laugh at russia if you will, thier manned space program will be much more effective than the US's from 2010-2014. And right they are one of only three groups who could launch anything to stop this asteroid.

To abc123cba
No, we are bitter because we pay millions annually to the UN so they can bad mouth us, pass stupid UN resolutions designed to get more money from us like the GW BS, and on top of that, no UN program has ever been successful at what it was supposed to do.

The UN appears to only be good for one thing, providing cushy jobs for relatives of 3rd world dictators and raping young girls in countries that need “protection”.

Buzzkat
Never said we were perfect. Certainly under Thatcher in the 80's there were some abuses of power, the Belgrano Affair, Spycatcher etc. There will still be some today. Overall I think we are both lucky to live in relatively free societies. It was Gunny G's obsession with our lamp posts I was addressing
Just wondering how much free speech the black people had in parts of your country when Macmillan was in power here???

Reagan was wrong, sort of
What Reagan envisioned has taken a few forms. First, in the "New World Order" that George HW Bush talked about in 1990, a fantasyland in which the planet unites to conquer a common enemy. It was the basis, e.g., for the notion in Independence Day, that the world must unite to confront space aliens. And Saddam Hussein. Fair enough.

The "New World Order" is functionally kaput, but there's a New New World Order, in which the tyrants unite, under the noses of wayward western Democracies, to agree the US is the root of all evil. It is the NNWO that, e.g., propagates an international problem such as "global warming" as a vehicle to seize power, ostensibly to address this claimed problem. What this really means, of course, is that the "international community" exercises quasi government power over people who neither elected the gov't nor consented to the exercise of power. Aided, of course, by Democrats who are too stupid or too disgusted with the US to see or care this is happening.

Having said all of this, I agree that if we're relying on the UN to accomplish anything, we're hosed.

The UN.....a defence
Well maybe it would be better if all the nations of the world ignored each other and just blew the **** out of each other when ever they disagree with each other.
Frankly you are all bitter because the UN refused to support the Iraq war because they thought that there wasn't enough evidence of Iraqi WMD. (the fools!) Iraq is probably an example of where inaction is better than the wrong action.
And the UN does take action....

Fergus
I think "doesn't quite" is stretching it. As I said Mohammed is a very popular name in the Muslim community so for it to be as low down the list of popular names doesn't indicate much to me. Yes there may be quite a few Muslims being born here, so what, I even know a few and they are decent sorts.
Yes some of those born may well end up radicalised, if so we will deal with them as we have previously.
Where I live in the UK has a very large Irish population, should we have got alarmed at this in the 80's?
Your premise that Mohammed is the most popular name in the UK (whether that includes just England and Wales or not) has been proven about as valid as WMD in Iraq.

ROTFL @ Vespanat!!
"we [UK] actually have less curbs on free speech than you [US]"


Ever hear of Nikolai Tolstoy? He exposed the real story behind the forced repatriation by the British of hundreds of thousands of Russian and Yugoslav refugees seeking asylum, to be murdered by the Soviet and Yugoslav Communists at the end of WW2. This policy was the dreamchild of one man, Harold McMillan, later Lord and British Prime Minister, who knew full well what was happening to the repatriated refugees. The refugees were blatantly lied to by the British authorities, who put them on trains and told them they were being transported to refugee camps in Italy and elsewhere in West Europe. Instead, these trains all went to the Soviet zone and to Yugoslavia. (My dad was a Yugoslav refugee in southeastern Austria, the British zone, and was almost caught in the British net too). McMillan is rightfully considered a war criminal by people in the know. Tolstoy, however, was persecuted by the British government in the late 1980's under the guise of the law that protects certain high ranking British government officials from "slander". In July 1995, the European Court of Human Rights concluded unanimously that the British Government had violated his rights in respect of Article 10 of the Convention on Human Rights.

Please don't lecture us Americans on free speech.

Actually all we would have to do
is take up a small rocket engine with the shuttle and strap it to the asteroid. Ignite the engine and acelerate the asteroid even a small amount and it will generate a huge miss.

I never understood why they didn't recommend this on the movie Armagedden, but then again, it would not have been mush of a movie.

The math for Newton's law
did not come across.

To Redhead
It’s a Grateful Dead clone band in upstate NY!

http://www.gravitytractor.org/

No, it’s a NASA space tug boat

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/11/1109_051109_asteroid_tug.html

But,

?

So, we would have to have a very big tug, or a very long time to hover above the asteroid.

To Redhead
Yeh, I wondered about the "gravity tractor". I figured it must be a new Albore invention.

Shame on you Ben
The whole article is to flippant and tongue in cheek. If the asteroid is for real, it is nothing to laugh about. I may be pushing up daisies by then, but some others won't find the humor in an asteroid taking out a metropolitan area.
Don't care for the foolish digression about how France or Mexico will respond either.
It is a bad joke.
The United Nations is not our friend in world events and it is absurd that we host this bunch of thugs in our own land.
Get the UN out of the USA.
It was designed and invented by the Communists to advance world socialism and secularism, and that is pretty much what it tries to do.

Gravity Tractor
What is this? You'd think that we could get these to fly around town and lessen the use of cars.

If it is a gravity well, I guess Al Gore would do. He seems to be putting on a little weight lately.

If it is a repulsive device, I would guess that you could strap Hillary to one side of a disk, and a Bible to the other.

2nd sentence, second paragraph...
"United Nations" and "Action". Please, let's not insult the intelligence of the readers by using these two words in the same sentence.

Vespanat
Conceding for the moment and for the sake of argument that even including both variants, it does not quite overtake every other single name... you still cannot deny the demographic trend, especially when plotted against the fact that U.K. birthrates are and have been below the 2.1 per couple "replacement rate." They are growing more, Britons of European stock are growing fewer, and so again, what do you see as the demographic significance of this?


To vespanat and Fergus
It is from the Telegraph, but what confuses everyone is the headline which places it overtaking "George" for "England and Wales". To the average American, there is no difference between England and the UK.


Apologies
When taking into account both derivations of the name Mohammed the total comes to 4,255 born in the UK in 2006, a little more than I previously reported but still not enough to overthrow the state I think.

Fergus
Sadly you are totally wrong. I have done some research and the Daily Telegraph (that well known liberal newspaper!!) states that 2,833 boys were named Mohammed in 2006, it was the 44th most popular name in England and Wales (not the whole of the UK as it happens). As that is a very popular name within the Muslim community then I think we can assume that is a large proportion of Muslim boys born. Hardly a significant number in the grand scale of things.
The most popular name in the UK in 2006 was Jack, a nice Anglo-Saxon name I'm sure you will agree.

Read about what the UN is doing today;
"UN Training PLO Forces in Gaza to Amass Along Israel Border

by Ezra HaLevi

(IsraelNN.com) According to the British Daily Telegraph, the UN training operation is being kept far away from the media, due to the sensitivity of a supposedly impartial UN choosing between competing terror groups within the Palestinian Authority.

The Telegraph report added that a former British Royal Marine has been hired to lead the training of Fatah’s 250-man elite Force 17, which Mahmoud Abbas inherited from former PLO terror Chief Yasser Arafat. The men will reportedly be stationed at the Karni Crossing, along Gaza’s border with Israel.


The funding for the training operation is being provided by Britain, Canada and Holland. The countries, approached by the Telegraph, denied that the Fatah men were being supplied with weapons, saying they were merely being trained in security techniques.

While the training itself is raising eyebrows in Israel, where Fatah’s Al-Aksa Brigades terror group has used weapons provided to Fatah when it controlled the Palestinian Authority, it is UN representatives in Gaza who were the most concerned, according to the report.

"The UN is meant to be totally impartial, above party politics and factional fighting," explained a UN worker, "and so to be seen to be helping just the Presidential Guard, which is connected to Fatah, raises very real risks." He said he now fears Hamas retribution.

The division of the UN in charge of the project is the United Nations Office for Project Service (UNOPS), a branch tasked with “dangerous missions,” according to the organization, such as clearing mines in war zones.

Meant to Help Failed Post-Disengagement Gaza
The UN chief overseeing the project told the Telegraph that the purpose of the training is to help the economic situation in Gaza by improving security at the Karni Crossing. The official attributes the failure of Gaza to flourish following Israel’s 2005 withdrawal to Israel’s repeated closure of the crossing.

Though Karni was closed following terror attacks targeting Israeli forces manning the crossing, the ransacking of the agricultural hothouses that were left by the Jewish farmers who were evicted did not help the economic situation of the PA either.

Following the Fatah-Hamas unity agreement in Mecca, PA officials hope to increase trade and international aid, both of which pass through Karni."


vespanat
Alas, the link I went searching for, I can no longer find. I do have this though:

http://www.statistics.gov.uk/pdfdir/fnames1206.pdf

I stated my datum just a little incorrectly; "Mohammed" is number 22 in the UK; "Muhammed" is 48. But these are essentially variant spellings of the same name; what the correct datum is, is that together, more male babies in 2006 were named either "Mohammed" or "Muhammed" than any other single name. The website I can find shows not only rankings, but gross numbers for each baby name, and you can add the numbers together yourself. When I find *that* site, I will post it.

As for where I heard it: I first heard it from columnist Mark Steyn, but after that, I did some poking around on the web and found it for myself. Hopefully, since I found it so easily the first time, I will find it again soon.

gene touchet
Your ad hominem attacks every week against young Mr. Shapiro are getting not only tiresome, but loathsome. It seems you are a 68 year old homosexual leftist in palm springs. Pardon me, but when did that constitute credibility of any sort at all? At least this kid is working his way through law school instead of sitting on his butt in the sun.

James
Muslim birthrate or Asteroids??

Hmm...
A couple of decades ago they had a simulator set up to prepare the world for this exact scenario. I personally spent a lot of time training to save us from this menace. And a lot of quarters, as well.

Mark of CA
I refer you to my two previous posts. The Muslim community will have to do a great deal of procreation in order to acheive an Islamic State. I am not casting aspersions on anyones virility but they would be too exhausted to carry out any Jihad!!!!

vespanat
You asked some posts back how would it be possible for the Islamic State to be founded in the UK?

The same way the Mexicans have taken over southern California.

Check out their birth rate and predilection to be on the dole. They overpopulate and drive you bankrupt at the same time.

It was only less than two years ago the UK finally got a little serious about immigration reform and added a few restrictions.

America is still denying there is a problem with the Mexican invasion. We were sympathetic because they came for jobs. Now they want Power and there is little interest in assimilation when they can get it.

Seriously Though
... if this is the quality of information you are getting from you "liberal" media then it's not surprising you lot are as paranoid as you are!!!!

Mohammed???
And from where did you garner this rather spurious piece of information? It is as we say in the UK absolute b*llocks.

vespanat
What do you think is the significance of the fact that "Mohammed" became, as of December, the single most popular baby boy's name in the UK? What do you see as the demographic trend indicated by that, and what do you think that will mean for the British electorate in, say 25 years?

Liberty
Good day to you. I do think you have a rather overly pessimistic view of the state of our respective countries. I don't feel my freedoms are being overly curtailed here and the last time I was in the States (last year if you are interested) I didn't feel overly oppressed.

to answer shapiro's question directly
No chance in Hades

Vespanat
Ok, so we are BOTH rapidly becoming totalitarian countries. Just great.

Peppermint
I'm not making excuses for them. Just trying to understand the reasoning. I think it's more than coincidence that the only major bombing campaigns we had suffered in Britain were those in the name of Irish Republicanism before we got embroiled in this ludicrous war. That is in no way a justification, more an explanation. I do think in the US you are better at assimilating your various sections of society than we are and although by no means perfect you do seem to be more cohesive in many ways.
A number of the more more firebrand clerics have been arrested including that Choudary chap. Abu Hamza is currently residing in prison. In a free society there does need to be a line drawn between free speech and censorship. In my view both these individuals went beyond what is acceptable, Gunny G would, it appears, disagree.

Vespanat
I do not espouse to the "reasoning" behind the Islamic radicals is the Iraq war. These radicals have been fomenting for a very long time, long before that war. It's just one more excuse they use (or other individuals) to try to make the West out to be the problem for their murderous intentions.

Placing blame for their problems needs to be placed squarely on them. Their attacks on innocents are no excuse for anything, whether real or perceived.

Now, I realize that your country and France have been very lax about assimilating these Muslims into your society. Here, we at least encourage them to assimilate into American society.

But, if the radicals don't want to do that, that is their problem.

What is your country doing right now to stop this radical Islamic preaching of hate and taking over Britain? Just curious, since I have seen several documentaries on Choudary and others making some very dangerous speeches and fomenting violence.

Peppermint
Yes there are divisions in our society, rather like yours in fact, yes there are fanatics preaching hate, yes sadly there probably will be more attacks by these scumbags. However just as there will not be Sharia Law in France there will NEVER be Sharia Law in Britain. The French got typically Gallicly arsey about having McDonalds in their country can't see them going for an Islamic State.
I am not denying we have problems in this country, at the moment a dominant one is the rise of Islamic Fundamentalism particularly among young Muslim males. This has probably been brought about by a variety of reason. I would personally say the policy of exclusive multi-culturalism hasn't helped. Nor has our Prime Minister's willingness to get involved in a war based on, at best, dodgy intelligence that all those with any knowledge of that area of the world predicted would end in the disaster it has. Our joint 'adventure' has undoubtedly gone someway to give creedance to the vitriolic filth spewed by the radical Imams.

vespanat
We see here the imams preaching hate and the take over of the British government in the most moderate mosque in Regents' Park.
So, what I think is, since you Brits seem to think there is no threat of radical Islam, and you make fun of us here in America for having things such as the Patriot Act, how much longer will it be before the radicals rise up in Briton as they have in France, where the police are fighting a battle on the outskirts of Paris with the Muslims.

Update 3
The asteroid is 99942 Apophis and has been calculated by NASA at 2.2 E-5. 1/45K = 2.2E-5 probability. A mission to deflect the asteroid using a “gravity tug” has been estimated to cost $300 million. Hahahah.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/99942_Apophis

http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/risk/a99942.html

http://www.yorku.ca/bquine/pages/mission_costs_and_reliability.htm

Still don’t know what the UN would get out of it unless they expect us to fund all of it and they get the credit.

Shapiro asks the wrong question
The real question is, could an asteroid stop the U.N.?

Cuz' sure as h3ll, I wish something would... can we find am asteroid small enough and accurate enough to wipe out Turtle Bay and leave the rest of Manhattan alone?

But he forgot at least one
the NGO's of the 'Church of Climate Change' will file lawsuits protesting ANY action taken by the US to protect the planet from potential impacts as 'destructive to the natural environment'

sigh...

Peppermint
You claim the founding of an Islamic State in the UK is imminent. Would you care to explain to me how the mechanism by which this is going to happen?

Further investigation
Our own NASA findings don't show anything on this asteroid.

http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/risk/

The question is, what is the UN looking for on this one?

Ah Gunny G We Meet Again....
...and you still have your obsession with our lamp posts I see. As I have said earlier we actually have less curbs on free speech than you I would have thought. I could join the Communist party were I foolish enough to wish to do so (or has that freedom now been allowed in the US?). The main ones to fall foul of our speech laws in that area are Islamic Fundamentalists who make direct calls for violence against among others your country which I would have thought you would be pleased about. Even the verminous Nick Griffin was aqcuitted recently (rightly in my opinion) for his hate filled diatribe against Islam.
Taken out any inflammatory library books recently? You might have a knock on the door soon and find yourself in Gitmo quicker than you can say Patriot Act!!!!

Vespanat
Soon, when the Muslims take over your country and impose sharia law, you won't be posting here any longer.

vespanat
I did not know that the Bush Administration was responsible for the rest of the world. Geez, thanks for the update.

With all of the problems that you have in GB, maybe you should spend more time getting YOUR house in order before mewling about how evil WE ARE. BTW, what's the count on the number of CCTV's per person in jolly old Orwellian England? They mount those directional microphones on the lampposts yet? After all, can't have the subjects speaking their minds...right?

To wolfpat
No I don't think we have exchanged messages there because there are only 3 boards where I have ever posted, including this one.

The numbers I am talking about here are calculated probabilities of an accident (and that is not the exact term, but it is close without going into lot of complications). Also, I am working straight from memory here because these things are not written in stone, but are committed to. The numbers I remember for requiring modifications were any less than or equal to 10E-4. Numbers at 10E-5 required written emergency procedures. Numbers at 10E-6 did not require anything.

Also, numbers on the order of 10E-3 required immediate fix or shutdown,

Personally I have other things to worry
about. If the only two things bothering me were Global Warming and Asteroids, I'd count myself a happy woman indeed.

Unfortunately the real world intrudes much sooner than asteroids or warm weather. I have an upcoming racing season, elderly parents in fair health who are trying to oversee the care of an auntie who has had a stroke and an uncle with Alzeimers, with no help from the children of the auntie (who are simply waiting to get their hands on her money); I have a sister who's worried about her husband's impending retirement, another with 11 feet of snow to shovel off her cottage, a third getting her third divorce which seems geared up to be much more acrimonious than her first two were, a nephew whose wife is in premature labour, a friend whose mother is in chemotherapy for colon cancer and a boss who is having a nervous breakdown -- and my uncle died yesterday of medical complications that will probably result in a major lawsuit (but truly died of a broken heart after mourning the loss of his wife of 60 years). Plus today is Ash Wednesday and my 59th birthday is next week.

Forgive me if I can't spare time to worry about asteroids this week. But thanks for the laugh.

Vic
What is the number for nuclear power plants? Isn't it something like 1 in 37,000,000?

Haven't we exchanged messages on Free Republic?

Thasic
Thank you for your highly scientific and reasoned treatise of my analogy. Who said Yanks have no sense of irony eh? No liberal me, just someone who recognises the complete and utter disaster the Bush Administration has been for the world, a view that would appear to be shared by many on the right also if this website is to be believed.

UN
The UN may be "worthless" and some say now, as far as addressing this or much of anything, but that doesn't seem to stop them from trying to be the world's "decider" on just about everything from disarmament to "sustainable development". This organization has been more than questionable from its very founding. We need to get OUT.


Loyal D, is that you?
Oh, sorry. It sounded just like you for a minute! I love illustrating absurdity so it mirrors the truth!! There are no threats,anywhere! phew! NOW I can go to sleep, acunamatatta! It means no worries with the UN around, right?

vespanat
Well, that just goes to show what great thinkers the libs are. Ponder for a second, if this asteroid were blown into many smaller pieces, would that be good or bad? Well, small pieces of space debris hit our atmoshere regularly and burn up before they hit the planet. Some actually do manage to strike the planet and do little or no damage. Now, one realy big rock could wipe out the entire planet. Which do you think would be better? Take your time, I know this is a toughy for a lib.....

The US Reaction
under the current administation of incompetents would no doubt be to blow the asteroid into several pieces so it could cause even more widespread damage if their policy in Iraq is anything to go by!!!

Ben you nailed it.
The UN is worthless for anything. We should leave the UN, give them 90 days to get out of town, then level the building.

In addition, I would like to see how they arrived at this 1 in 45K chance of us being hit by the asteroid.

Did ya'll know that if this was a Nuclear Power plant with a calculated number on that order for an accident, that they would have to perform some kind of plant retro-fit to elliminate the threat?

No need to worry
about this asteroid. If Hillary becomes POTUS she'll make sure we get better armor placed around the earth.
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