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Sunday, October 12, 2008
Austin Hill :: Townhall.com Columnist
Why Not A Dramatic Tax Increase On 'Rich People?" Ask Obama
by Austin Hill
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Is American capitalism becoming a thing of the past? No, not hardly. Evidence to the contrary can be found in the strangest places - - even within the presidential campaign of Senator Barack Obama.

First the bad news. In the past two weeks, American stocks have lost approximately 25% of their value. In dollar terms, we‘re talking about a loss of roughly $3.16 trillion, which is more than four times the controversial $700 billion “rescue” plan that the United States Congress hesitantly approved a few days ago.

Additionally, none of the moves made by Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke and Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson have produced their desired outcomes, at least not yet. The money markets remain “frozen,” and the free-flow of credit has not yet resumed.

But consider carefully how they have responded to the crisis. The new policies from both the Federal Reserve and the U.S. Treasury have been structured so as to actually support the prices of financial assets. This contrasts with the stock market drop (I’ll refrain from calling it a “crash” since there seems to be some controversy over the technical definition of that term) of October 1987, when, President Reagan’s tax cuts not withstanding, U.S governmental policy was in many ways working against the stock market.

And notice the global response to the crisis. Finance ministers and heads of central banks were quick to pursue a coordinated response with the U.S., and Chairman Bernanke led the way. The outcome was an international round of interest-rate cuts (not interest rate increases), which included the major central banks of Europe, and with the exception of Japan, the central banks of Asia, including those in China.

Now, the crisis is not over, the long-term impact to our economy is not yet knowable, and it’s easy to kick Bernanke, Paulson, and Bush while the chips are down. But don’t miss the big picture.

In previous crises, the instincts of policy makers have most often been to tighten monetary policy, and to implement more governmental control over economic resources. Today, policy makers around the world instinctively want to loosen monetary policy, and to encourage more economic resources to flow into the coffers of private individuals and institutions. Now, more than in previous eras, it is understood that the real hope for economic productivity is found in the private sector, and not in the halls of governments.

This may be a subtle point, and it is certainly a point that is overlooked by most of the media. But it is an important point nonetheless, and serves as further evidence that global sensibilities today lean more in a capitalistic direction than they did in earlier generations.

And now, back to the White House race. If John McCain is having a difficult time getting traction with his message of keeping tax rates low (and he is), Barack Obama is having a difficult time selling Americans on the supposed virtues of high taxes. But how could this be so?

For most of his nearly 21-month presidential campaign, Senator Obama has made a cottage industry out of hating free market enterprise. He has proposed governmental limits on corporate executive salaries. He has repeatedly expressed indignation over “excessive” corporate profits. He has promised to “reign-in” free trade, and has promised to instill “economic justice” in America (he has never clarified what he means when he says “economic justice,” but he has made it clear that America’s economy is necessarily unjust).

And more than any other economic idea, Obama has throughout his campaign reiterated that it is time to end “Bush’s tax cuts for the rich.” The term itself is misleading, in as much as earlier this decade President Bush and the U.S. Congress cut taxes across the board, not merely for “rich people.” But never mind the facts, Obama has hit political homeruns by putting a bullseye on the backs of America’s highest income earners.

Yet last week Obama backed-off from eliminating Bush’s dastardly “tax cuts for the rich,” insisting that, because of Bush’s ailing economy, it won’t be feasible to raise taxes on the wealthy right away. But why not? His sudden change of heart tells us two things: A) some significant portion of the American electorate is NOT enchanted by his politics of class warfare and envy; and B) just like those of the world’s finance ministers, the instincts of many Americans lead them to understand that wealth creation and productivity comes from the private sector, not from government - - not even from an Obama government.

American capitalism is alive and well, and it won’t be dying-off any time soon. Americans now need to decide whether it is best to elect a President who will nurture the world’s preferred economic system, or one whose passion it is to weaken it.

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About The Author
Austin Hill is a Talk Show Host At Boise, Idaho's 580 KIDO Radio, and a frequent Guest Host on the Fox Newstalk Radio Network. He is the Author of "White House Confidential: The Little Book Of Weird Presidential History," And Co-Author of the forthcoming title "The Virtues Of Capitalism: A Moral Case For Free Markets" (Northfield/Moody Press, 2010).
 
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jayhawk
For once we agree! I love Robin Hood! Let us remember how he operated: the government (the King and the Sheriff) confiscated taxes from the working people at high rates and Robin returned the money to the taxpayers. Great! Note that Robin, at no time, plundered the merchants to take their money and give it to layabouts. I think that that is what you might have preferred he do, as O'Bama plans to do.

Pragmatism
This column is interesting and I think accurate, but I would add that Obama, like McCain, is a Pragmatist. Both candidates believe that what must be done is Whatever Works. Trial and error, experimentation is the order of the day. Principles are out the window, because they don't have anything to do with reality, according to the Pragmatist. Therefore, while taxes in this kind of situation "don't work," their thinking goes no deeper, and they both will accept the next novel statist idea that someone offers them. Like the fish who turns around in the aquarium, it's a new castle every time.

starts well descends into silliness
Most of this is a fairly good account of the credit crisis we are now seeing, and the response to it. Most of the other Townhall writers could learn from this.

But the account is rather onesided since it misses the degree to whcih the received wisdom is that government has a central role to play in freeing up credit, in restoring confidence after the private sector has failed. And there will be a fair amount of nationalizing of the financial industry, hopefully temporary, because of the mistakes the private sector made.

But then the article reverts to nonsense. Obama has indisiously hidden away his ideas of social justice on his website where only people who bothered to look could find it.

The reality is that this bailout contains more socialist aspects than anything Obama proposed during the campaign when he was supposedly hating the free market. The market is no less free with more progressive tax rates than with less progressive ones.

Class envy and warfare
Class warfare still works as a political weapon. How many times do liberal Democrats, during an election cycle, put out the phrase "The rich need to pay their fair share". Demonizing the rich is always the preferred method for the Dems to stoke the flames of class warfare, and to anger the millions of middle class Americans. Sadly, this works all too well, and liberals know it. The class envy playbook may be old, but it still works. Too many Americans buy into it. There are still too many of our citizens who believe that government involvement in their lives will help them prosper and succeed.

soak wealthy
obama raises taxes on wealthy and venture capital goes down the toilet! george bush won't be around when obama hammers us! who 'ya gonna blame barack?

Anytime you hear
any rich politician say they are going to 'tax' the rich, you should automatically call BS!

9PM ET
SEAN HANNITY, OF HANNITY & COLMES ~ FOX NEWS, IS GOING TO AIR A VERYIMPORTANT DOCUMENTARY ABOUT BARACK OBAMA, SUNDAY NIGHT AT 9:00 PM. HE STATED ON THE AIR THIS EVENING THAT NO ONE IN THE NEWS MEDIA WAS WILLING TO DO THIS.

HANNITY IS GOING BACK TO OBAMA'S EARLIER DAYS, SHOWING EVEN THEN HIS TIES TO RADICAL PROFESSORS, FRIENDS, SPIRITUAL ADVISERS, Etc., HE STATED THIS EVENING THAT HE WILL SHOW IN DETAIL HIS TIES TO REV. WRIGHT FOR 20+ YRS
(which we all know) HOW HE WAS PARTICIPATING WITH THIS MAN, AND NOT FOR THE REASONS HE STATES!

HE HAS UNCOVERED MORE OF OBAMA'S RADICAL LEADERS AND WE WILL SEE THINGS THAT NO ONE IN THE MEDIA IS WILLING TO PUT OUT THERE.

THIS WILL BE A NIGHT THAT YOU WILL KNOW MORE ABOUT OBAMA THAN EVER BEFORE. HANNITY IS VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS PROGRAM AND ASKED THAT EVERYONE PLEASE, PLEASE WATCH~~

SUNDAY NIGHT, 9 PM.

HANNITY IS DETERMINED THIS INFORMATION BE PUT OUT THERE BECAUSE AS AMERICANS, WE STILL DO NOT KNOW ABOUT OBAMA!! WAKE UP AMERICA!!

THIS IS SERIOUS,EVERYONE. I KNOW MOST OF YOU WATCH FOX NEWS, AND YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE VOTING FOR, BUT IF YOU CAN, PLEASE PASS THIS ON TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW.

THIS IS CRITICAL FOR OUR COUNTRY. MY PRAYER IS THAT WE, ALONG WITH SEAN HANNITY, WILL REACH SOMEONE/ANYONE BEFORE NOV. 4th.

WE MUST NOT GIVE UP!!!!!!!!!


Sounds Great...
Barrack Obama is the new Robin Hood

Obama need to lead by example
Did you forget Obama has the likes of 17 tax-free accounts, he is just running his mouth. He really does know Ayers, did get a sweet real estate deal, and know exactly how ACORN operate in obtaining voter registered. Drinking the Obama cool-aid, does not make you stupid but this blog confirms the fact. A racist preacher that is dating a white woman living in an exclusive gated community. That is America for you, poverity pimps trying to put their poster child in the White House. According to Obama he is a drug user that briefly dealt, that reformed into a community organizer in Chicago.

Economic Justice
When Obama uses the phrase "Economic Justice" he is referring to Socialism. Taking from the rich and using the money as he and his "Democratic" congress want.

Do you think he is helping the average American? Probably not, just his radical ideas.

A couple additional points
Democrats are often thought of as being better for the economy. This is rubbish. When the economy is in trouble, people get afraid and the welfare promised by Democrats is more appealing.

Obama's friends (e.g. Ayers, Davis) include those that are distinctly anti-American and anti-capitalism (they see it as intrinsically unfair). Obama's record is consistent with this and we can look forward to moving towards a more socialist society if he is elected (with Reid and Pelosi as sidekicks).

Liberal principles have acted like a ratchet in the U.S. - once it advances a notch it can't go back. We now spend over 50% of the federal budget on entitlements and social programs. Nothing ever gets cut - look how controversial welfare reform was. Obama plans lots more spending, further burdening future generations with mandatory spending.

Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac
I think the purpose of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac was to serve as a sort of laundering agent for high risk loans. Sell FMs the high risk loans, and then they are bundled with better loans and are ready to send off to investment banks, with the coveted high grades from the rating agencies. After all, don't the FM products have the assumed guarantee of the Feds? Junk mortgage in, investment grade mortgage package out. Mortgage laundering. Kind of what a money launderer does, don't you think? High risk money in, low risk money out.

Markets are morally neutral....
Markets do not speak like you and I with words, but the evidence of the outcome speaks loudly.

If man buys a product out of greed. Results in paying in excess. Taking years to recover the cost often resulting in desiring more credit to fullfill there new desire/greed. Until no credit can be had. Often resulting in bankruptcy.

If a man buys barters a low price they take/steal from the other man. Often leading to the seller rejecting them for further business, as a hyster.

When one sells an inferior product at regular price. The buyer feels again short changed and the deal will not happen again.

To build a solid financial world and business. It requires being fair, and balanced in all transactions or the laws of nature will reflect God's handiwork or morality.

No wonder our forefathers wrote in relation to this Nations Laws and living: Do that which is natural or what nature encourages to be done.

Morality is in economics. It takes righteous men to see justice.


Working Group on Financial Markets Issue

Report out FRIDAY
http://www.treas.gov/press/releases/hp1177.htm

said
DEREGULATION and Private Investment Banks from Bush years created "TURMOIL".

The "turmoil in financial markets clearly was triggered by a dramatic weakening of underwriting standards for U.S. subprime mortgages, beginning in late 2004 and extending into 2007,"
http://www.ustreas.gov/press/releases/reports/q4progress%20 update.pdf


Federal Reserve Board data shows,
More than 84 percent of the subprime mortgages in 2006 were issued by private lending institutions.

Private firms made nearly 83 percent of the subprime loans to low- and moderate-income borrowers that year.

Only one of the top 25 subprime lenders in 2006 was directly subject to the housing law that's being lambasted by conservative critics.

Between 2004 and 2006, when subprime lending was exploding, Fannie and Freddie went from holding a high of 48 percent of the subprime loans that were sold into the secondary market to holding about 24 percent, according to data from Inside Mortgage Finance, a specialty publication.One reason is that Fannie and Freddie were subject to tougher standards than many of the unregulated players in the private sector who weakened lending standards, most of whom have gone bankrupt or are now in deep trouble.

During those same explosive three years, private investment banks — not Fannie and Freddie — dominated the mortgage loans that were packaged and sold into the secondary mortgage market. In 2005 and 2006, the private sector securitized almost two thirds of all U.S. mortgages, supplanting Fannie and Freddie, according to a number of specialty publications that track this data.

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/53802.html

Loss is loss, value is value ...
...American stocks have lost approximately 25% of their value. In dollar terms, we‘re talking about a loss of roughly $3.16 trillion ... "

If you own a stock, and don't sell it when its value goes down, you haven't lost a dime.

I you are a robust trader doing options, you might have gotten rich over the last two weeks.

If 25% of the value of all shares traded is $3.16 trillion, that means the total value was about $14 trillion. Thus the value of stocks in total is now about $11 trillion. Not too bad.

If my house was worth $200,000 two weeks ago and is now "valued" at $150,000, have I "lost" $50,000? Same house, same dog, same wife, same kids.

The Beatles had it right. Let it Be.

Beg to differ with "David" and "asylum"
.
McCain is THE ONLY CANDIDATE of the two who has a decades-long record of fighting pork barrel spending.

So, IF economic "frugality" and "common sense" are of importance to you,

NO, the difference between McCain and Obama is IN NO WAY "insignificant."

*** McCAIN / PALIN '08 !! ***

First, You would Have to PAY YOUR TAXES
GAO Report : Tax Administration: Comparison of the Reported Tax Liabilities of Foreign- and U.S.-Controlled Corporations, 1998-2005

2/3 of ALL foreign- and U.S.-controlled corporations in America showed a ZERO TAX LIABILITY for 2005.

We ALL Know "TAX RATE" doesn't mean that is what is PAID, by ANYONE.

I don't know much
but I know Socialism will not bring us out of this crisis.

Ann, Reprob8, and all of you are right, the only thing that has ever worked has been the free market system.

We can't depend on what BHO, NP and HR will do to further the problems. Continue to spread the word we need to let the market work this out.

''Life's tough.....it's even tougher if you're stupid.''
-- John Wayne

Excellent reply, David (in MD)
Your analysis is on-point: Government largesse and The People's tacit endorsement of said largesse, is going to continue our spiral towards greater and greater debt ceilings.

I blame the People in equal measure as I blame the Government. Why? Because we get the government we deserve. Most of our fellow citizens love to talk about "freedom" or "liberty", but in all reality are unwilling to do the work necessary to be truly free and liberated.

The People are all to willing to trade freedom and liberty for "security" (in the sense that 'someone else' will attend to their day-to-day problems). Our elected officials are more than happy to "attend" to us...at great expense of our money and individuality, and possibly the very foundations upon which we have constructed so great a Nation in so little time. It all will be done with the blind approval of the People. Sad.

We do not live in particularly tough times.

Um...
The terms American and capitalism are morally neutral. Language is morally neutral. How the virtual entity we call capitalism is used is where morality comes in.
American capitalism is fine; how and by whom it was used over the past decade or so is the subject of discussion today.
Human fault, particularly greed, caused this "drop" in the market as well as in confidence.
The greedmiesters have had their day. It is to be hoped they're not merely in recession.

the real danger
Is the tremendous national debt. Right now we're borrowing like crazy, mostly from Foreign gov'ts and institutions, to finance the war, our out of control domestic spending, and these various bailout plans.

There's only 3 ways I know of to generate money.

Either we grow actual wealth, by producing and selling actual things (not a short term solution).

Or we continue to borrow to finance all of the things we're doing (and just hope that the people we're borrowing from keep refinancing the debt).

Or we print money.

We're going to do a combo of the second and third solution. The main danger short term is that Foreign investors get spooked, and take their money and run when it's due. There's no way the gov't can meet their obligations if this happens, and if we default on treasury securities we'll have a situation that'll make 1929 look like a picnic.

Neither M or O will know what to do in this situation, because there's really nothing that can be done.

If we manage to get through this particular economic crisis, then we have the future inflation that will be generated by the things we're doing now to worry about.

We can only hope that somehow we manage to hold this together short term, but then we need leadership that will lead us out of this wilderness in the long term.

I don't see that leadership now, and I don't think it's possible - because a lot of things that would hurt people would need to have to be done, and no politician would be able to suggest (much less implement) them and survive, even if they had the sense to know what to do about the problem.

Compared to this an Obama Presidency is truly insignificant - the only significance is that they will probably pursue policies that will hasten our demise. McCain and the Republicans would only be marginally better.

Don't ask Obama....
He will say anything if he thinks it will help him get into the White House.

Our freedoms & liberties...
have been drastically eroded by an out-of-control federal bureaucracy. Capitalism is all well and good, but capitalism does not preserve our God-given rights. We need to elect a President who promises to defend our constitition.

Allow me to change your last sentence...
Americans now need to decide whether it is best to elect a President who will nurture the world’s preferred FREEDOM & LIBERTY system, or one whose passion it is to weaken it.

Well Said
I hate this election....don't drink the koolade
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