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Sunday, May 25, 2008
Austin Hill :: Townhall.com Columnist
When Ellen (DeGenres) Met John (McCain): Lessons About Ideals
by Austin Hill
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Republican presidential nominee John McCain did the “the Hollywood thing” again.

Appearing on the syndicate “Ellen DeGeneres Show” last Thursday, McCain showcased himself , his presidential candidacy, and his good-natured sense of humor before Ellen’s nationwide daytime television audience.

Unfortunately, the only portion of the program that got attention beyond its original “airing” was the very few minutes that Ellen quizzed McCain about homosexual marriage - - the “elephant in the living room,” as she called it. And these few moments were some of the most awkward McCain moments I’ve ever seen.

Let’s understand who we’re talking about. This is a man who honorably fought against communism in Viet Nam; survived two airplane crashes and a collision with power lines; had his aircraft shot down by a missile over Hanoi; was severely injured and given minimal care in a hospital where he wasn’t expected to survive a week; was then put in solitary confinement for two years; and after that, began a “program” of severe beatings, rope bindings, and other methods of torture. This is an extraordinary man who has always “survived” - - always - - and is even “hip enough” to mix it up and garner lots of laughs on “Saturday Night Live.”

Yet McCain appeared awkward addressing the subject of “marriage” with Ellen. I played audio portions of the interview on my radio show in Washington, DC, and I can attest that the video looks worse than the audio sounds. But regardless of whether one watches or listens, there are a few things to be learned - - for the McCain campaign, and for all Americans - - from this brief dialog.

For starters, let’s acknowledge that while the discussion was by no means a “debate” (at least not in the political sense), it did nonetheless entail disagreements, yet remain entirely civil and respectful. This is very noteworthy, and very positive.

Ellen is a masterful interviewer and talk show host, and has previously demonstrated her graciousness with guests with whom she disagrees (including President Bush). I know I’ll get nasty email for daring to speak my mind about Ellen’s talents (I‘m already anticipating the name calling - - “liberal,” “homo sympathizer,” etc…).

But lest you be inclined to generalize about all “lesbian talk show hosts,” rest assured - - Ellen is talented, and she is NOT a Rosie O’Donnell.

McCain was equally as gracious. Stating that he adheres to the belief in "the unique status of marriage between a man and a woman," he went on to say “ I know that we have a respectful disagreement on that issue…" Near the end of the segment, McCain reiterated his disagreement on the policy position, but, with respect to Ellen’s relationship with her significant-other, he said “I, along with many, many others, wish you every happiness..”

"So, you'll walk me down the aisle? Is that what you're saying?" Ellen asked. In the midst of the uproar of hilarity in the audience (and his own laughter as well), McCain simply replied “touche…”

And the segment ended cordially. Continued...

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Austin Hill is a Talk Show Host At Boise, Idaho's 580 KIDO Radio, and a frequent Guest Host on the Fox Newstalk Radio Network. He is the Author of "White House Confidential: The Little Book Of Weird Presidential History," And Co-Author of the forthcoming title "The Virtues Of Capitalism: A Moral Case For Free Markets" (Northfield/Moody Press, 2010).
 
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NSD, con't
And apparently you are seriously ignorant about gender and SEXUAL ORIENTATION.
And sexual orientation is morally neutral. It doesn't denote character or virtue.
You are convinced that gay people, or their sex lives are unhealthy and sad.
And you haven't consulted with gay people who ARE. You're not looking for any and don't care to ASK a gay person what THEY think and feel.
And primary in a civil and just society is to at least listen and stand in the shoes of another. All you are reiterating as is all too common here....is ONLY and exclusively the opinions, emotions, feelings and abstract experience of HETEROSEXUAL people who share your belief and opinion.
And you want the government to act as if gay people are NOT distinctly viable group that transcend ALL human experience.
And have a contribution to make if YOUR own stubborn will weren't interrupting it.
Gay folks deserve the proverbial floor to at least PROVE YOU WRONG.
And without that opportunity, you really have no case, nor any valid proof whatsoever.
Certain things have to occur to settle it and YOUR say so, isn't the only one.

NSD....broader than that
NSD, I don't think you've been paying attention to how broad a range gender really is. It's NEVER been that black and white in nature. Men aren't only one way, and neither are women and the people who are in between pose no threat, but indeed are a tempering factor.
What SOME ancients tried to do was construct ARTIFICIAL gender guidelines in an attempt to especially minimize the influence of women on society.
And other societies fully embrace the transgender and homosexual AS spiritually gifted BECAUSE men and women obviously DON'T get along so well.
Men have been trying to control women or force people into roles inappropriate for their INDIVIDUAL abilities.
And said attitudes are essentially the belief in the inferiority of women or those who don't behave as people think females or males SHOULD.
Your simplistic explanation is exactly only what the illiterate and simple minded could follow and submit to.
And evidently it's the same who would believe it.
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