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Sunday, February 03, 2008
Austin Hill :: Townhall.com Columnist
Hillary Rodham Clinton: A Pillar Of Female Achievement? Really??
by Austin Hill
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"Senator Kennedy's endorsement of Hillary Clinton's opponent in the Democratic presidential primary campaign has really hit women hard..."

Oh, really?

That was a direct quote taken from an official statement issued by the New York state chapter of the National Organization for Women, after Ted Kennedy’s grand endorsement of the Barack Obama presidential candidacy last week. The news of this Kennedy rebuke was widely reported, but, because of some confusing headlines, some were left with the impression that N.O.W.’s national leadership issued the reprimand.

This prompted N.O.W. President Kim Gandy to issue her own statement, assuring the world that N.O.W. has “enormous respect and admiration” for Kennedy, and respects his right to endorse Obama if he so chooses.

So N.O.W. and Ted Kennedy are still “like this,” despite the fact that he endorsed the liberal guy running for President, instead of the liberal woman. I’m sure we all feel better now.

But what does it mean, to say that Kennedy’s choice has “really hit women hard?” Is a choice to not support Mrs. Clinton’s political ambitions - - whatever those ambitions may be at any given time - - necessarily a choice that hurts all women?

Whoever it was at N.O.W.’s Albany office that wrote the rambling, emotive attack of Kennedy, actually went so far as to suggest that the Obama endorsement is symptomatic of a broader, ongoing disrespect for women’s rights.

So Hillary has a “right” to be President? Huh???

This nonsense from a N.O.W. state chapter may be fairly isolated, but the fact that it happened is symptomatic in itself. It indicates that some people have, to put it in psycho-therapeutic terms, an “unhealthy attachment” with a public figure that is highly adept at projecting her “false self.”

For most of my lifetime, the stated ideals of America’s feminists have had to do with women being their true, authentic selves; ascending to positions of leadership and influence; all without obstruction from, or reliance upon, men (husbands in particular). Some may imagine Hillary Rodham Clinton to be a living symbol of these ideals, and it may be that she thinks of herself in this way.

But is this really true, given the way she’s conducted her professional life? It’s difficult to answer "yes" to this question, knowing her history of enabling Bill’s abusive and deceitful behavior, and her willingness to allow other women in the White House to “take the fall” at times when former President Bill misbehaved and needed a scapegoat.

But forget Mrs. Clinton’s numerous years of “experience” in the White House. Let’s instead consider just the last 12 months or so, as she has been pursuing a return trip back to Pennsylvania Avenue.

At the start of 2007, Mrs. Clinton presented herself as very independent from Bill; they lived apart much of the time, and rarely appeared together publicly. By spring time, she had begun announcing that, when she becomes President, she’ll appoint Bill to be “ambassador to the world,” while Bill began speaking publicly about making himself “available” to help Hillary’s administration in any way that he could.

Through the summer Hillary and Bill campaigned both together, and separately, while in the fall months, “Operation Clinton” became more about Bill and all that he was planning to accomplish once they were both restored to their rightful place in the world - - the White House.

Thus far, 2008 has provided nothing short of a Clinton psychodrama. In the month of January alone, Bill admitted that there’s only “so much” he can do to get his spouse elected, and that he can’t make her “taller, younger, or male;” Bill insultingly described Obama’s stance on the Iraq war as a “fairytale;” Bill accused the media of being “stenographers” for the Obama campaign; Bill claimed that electing Obama to be President would be tantamount to "rolling the dice;" Bill compared Obama to the racially polarizing Jesse Jackson; we saw Bill explode into red-faced, Elton John-style tantrums with television news reporters; and after all this (and with Obama's polling numbers rising), Hillary explained that Bill just got a little “carried away” simply because he “loves her” so much, and assured voters that she’ll be able to “control him” when they return to the White House.

Do these details fit in the story of a feminist icon? If Hillary is a victim of a misbehaving spouse, then why is this so? A truly “powerful woman” wouldn’t remain in these abusive circumstances, and continue to be victimized- - would she?

If Hillary has not been victimized by Bill, then she would seem to be complicit with Bill’s insanity, willingly allowing him to play “bad cop” and do her dirty work. Such a relational arrangement may be symbiotic for the Clintons, but it’s difficult to think of Hillary as being “strong” or “independent” in this scenario.

Perhaps Senator Kennedy learned the truth of the Clintons years ago. One can only hope that a majority of Americans are now beginning to catching-on.

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Austin Hill is a Talk Show Host At Boise, Idaho's 580 KIDO Radio, and a frequent Guest Host on the Fox Newstalk Radio Network. He is the Author of "White House Confidential: The Little Book Of Weird Presidential History," And Co-Author of the forthcoming title "The Virtues Of Capitalism: A Moral Case For Free Markets" (Northfield/Moody Press, 2010).
 
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/giles
You're obsolete. You're hula hoop, princess phones, aluminum storm doors. It's 2008, not 1996.

It's a new world, get used to it.

It could
be said that NOW is racist.

Austin the Marriage Therapist?
How dare you judge the Clinton marriage? Every marriage endures hardship and unfortunately for Hillary her personal issues became public (no thanks to the republicans) but nevertheless, women admire her because inspite of all the personal issues she had to deal with in public - she remained focused on her career plan to be president and her duties as a mother (Chelsea is quite a young lady). Many couples depend on each other at a personal and professional level. Also, men need buddies "the good old boys network" to succeed. Since women do not have this "network historically" they rely on their spouses and family members a lot more. I am not defending Bills behavior but many women endure cheating husbands because divorced women do not get the same break divorced men get. Many men who were president have had more than one wife and even some been blamed for adultery (JFK, Reagan,) yet their personal lives are somehow not an issue - but a woman has to be strong, independent and make sure her husband does not misbehave otherwise she is weak? Is this your argument. Fortunately, women see it differently. This was quite a telling piece about what you think about women.

Strength in Hillary's Demeanor
One has to admit, Hillary has the intestinal fortitude of a cast iron skillet. She'd have to in order to stomach her philandering hubby Bill. This strength of compartmentalizing everything in order to stay laser-focused on gaining the WH, is something one must at least recognize. As for NOW representing women's rights and overall equality with men, they're a JOKE! Not to criticize Wobbly-Willie for his antics; silence on the horendous treatment of women living under sharia law in various countries of the world; mumm-ness on the practice of sanctioned female mutilation via clittoral removal- - -the list goes on and on. Why would anyone give credence or pay the least amount of attention to an organization so completly devoid of any relevance to women in todays world?

Repeal the 19th Amendment
Boys, we should have seen this coming the minute women got the vote. In fact, those congressmen who refused to vote for the amendment did see it. I'm with Ann Coulter and several other smart women who said we need to take it back, just like we did Prohibition.

The Founding Fathers had very good reasons for keeping votes away from women, and their wisdom is continually being affirmed. They had their Hillaries too, but they were too smart to let them run riot. But now we've sown the wind. . .

Sarah
She knew who he was long ago, why else during his first run have a "bimbo eruptions" team?

Relax about the NOW thing
It's been denounced from the left in every direction. Even the main NOW branch has quickly distanced itself from that (insane) publication from a LOCAL branch.

That was the same woman who said that Obama and Edwards were "gang-raping" Hillary in a debate. She needs to be quickly and gently put to pasture :)

This column is weak
Hillary is not.

the strong missus clinton?
other than being bubba's doormat, chief enabler and his attack dog what else can she cite as as her resume. She headed up the crew that went after the women who came forward with the stories of the sexual predator husband. She tried to destroy these women's reputations so that the public wouldn't learn of bubba's continued predatory behavior towrds women. The missus clinton fought for bubba's right to molest women. But in the leftists world the clinton's remain icons. She claims to be a strong woman but when her campaign got in trouble she turned to her molestor husband to save her. She claims that she was the policy master during bubba's years in office and was involved in all decisions. Yet by her own accounts she barely spoke to him for two years because of monica.

Never trust Hillary
She hasn't accomplished AYTHING in her entire life that qualifies her to be a Senator, much less president.



GO MITT

misguided sarah
bubba claims to have molested 200 women. That puts the missus clinton in the guiness book for dumbest woman on the planet who stood by while her husband continued to humiliate her. She claims she never doubted bubba's love for her. I guess that's how real men honor their vows conduct themselves in their marriage. The clinton's have always been after power and nothing else matters. As for your claims about the daughter chelsea. Another clinton who couldn't make it on her own. She works as a highly paid analyst for one of the missus clinton's primary campaign supporters. The company gave chelsea a job rather than give the money directly to the clintons. Blaming repubs for bubbas behavior is a real pathetic attempt to give cover for the clintons. They are essentially no more than low class trash who have foisted their tabloid existence on america. The msm hails the clintons as rock star personalities. The country needs a leader and neither clinton qualifies for that position

Who cares, The issue is Bush Lied again
What the New York state chapter of the National Organization for Women says does not matter.

What Ted Kennedy says or who he endorses does not matter.

Hillary Rocks. She is such a nerd policy wonk, a Democrat tonic that is needed, to get the uber partisan Neo-Con cancer and stink that Bush will leave.

If Hillary winds I hope the GOP keeps a strong minority. If McCain wins I want the Dems to wind more seats in both houses. It's called the two party system.

What we had the last 7 years was a vetoing, signing statement (not constitutional), gibber jabber King fool. Now Bush will not sign the NSA wire tap surveillance bill unless we (THE PEOPLE) give total immunity to the TelComs. Well in San Fran, in a secret room at AT&T, they where doing **domestic** wire tap. AT&T should be held accountable. Not all TelCOMs bent over. Many TelComs said, give us the legal papers or buzz off. The ones that did not should be held up and scrutinized. They did something illegal. We are a nation of laws. Ones that violate freedom are precious. You get mad at a brown person sneaking across the boarder but let this GO?

BY THE WAY, Bush lied that they only did wire taps of out of country communications. LIE! But all the right wing nuts are OK with that? Scary. It does not matter if people noticed if they where affected or not. What if I was a peeping tom, looking through a window at your naked wife or daughter. Would it be OK, if I was not caught and she did not know?

mini pilot
It seems to have escaped that vacuum between your ears but bush is not on the ballot. Talking of liars you always overlook the clintons. They started bombing kosovo on the lies perpetrated by their sec of state, maddy not so bright. Both clintons are world class liars over the many activities of the the clinton crime family. Isn't it odd how many former clinton associates have met untimely ends. A number that doesn't skew with mathematical probabilities. But don't worry you won't have to run and hide we have a strong military to protect you. I doubt we would have to worry about you looking at naked women, I don't think they turn you on

JetPile-it
You REALLY need to loosen up yor tinfoil hat a bit, it's cutting off the blood to the limp noodle you laughingly call your brain.

Can you prove ANY of the things you say? I've got a few seconds to read your proof, so come on, let's have it.

Hey now,
According to past reflections on hillary's life, she also cheated on bill.

We have to remember that anyone coming forward to expose hiilary's & bill's, shall we say "short comings", could cause that person to disappear.

Hillary
Strong woman? Smart woman? experienced woman? What tripe! The "smartest woman in the US" couldn't pass the Washington DC bar exam and never did! She was dealing with Bill's bimbo eruptions for years, in fact that was her job in the 92 campaign.She has been connected to every type of illegal campaign contributions scheme . Good grief are all you people blind.?

NOW
This prejudiced activist gang of loudmouths is so over. They have been irrelevent since the mid 80's and are struggling to make their voice heard in any way they can.

For them or anyone to assume, as they have that ANYONE is entitled to ANYTHING strictly on the basis of gender (or race)is absurd.

Hillary has lost it
Obama Ad Compared To Nazi March On Clinton Call?


Politico-The Clinton campaign convened a conference call with health policy experts to denounce Obama’s new mailer, which attacks Clinton’s plan for “forcing” Americans to sign up for insurance, and which features a couple at a kitchen table that recalls, for some, the famous insurance-industry-financed “Harry and Louise” ads against the original Clinton plan.

“I am personally outraged at the picture used in this mailing,” said Len Nichols of the New America Foundation, a leading supporter of mandatory insurance, who called it a “Harry and Louise evocation.”

“It is as outrageous as having Nazis march through Skokie, Ill.,” Nichols said. “I just find it disgusting that this kind of imagery is being used to attack the only way to get to universal coverage.”

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http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/obama-ad-compared- to-nazi-march-on-clinton-call



Endorsement?
Is not Kennedy's grandeur of disrespect to women more about his allowing Mary Jo Kopechne to die at his own hand?

Is N.O.W. really attempting to make the case for Hillary in the face of this reality?


NOW is THEN
"This prejudiced activist gang of loudmouths is so over."

Agreed. Some groups just refuse to understand that their time in the light is over once sufficient consciousness raising has been achieved.

It's like Bill Clinton still thinking he's relevant in politics.

The dumb way to vote
Imo, the stupidest reasons to for FOR or AGAINST a candidate are:
* Gender
* Race/ehtnicity
* Likeability
* Charisma (Hilter had that, remember?)
* Any other superficial trait that has nothing to do with his or her quelifications to lead our country.


Jamble
Thank you for a refreshing post. What you say is so obvious it is easily overlooked, hiding in plain sight, as it were. Makes NOW, and any other organization or person who adheres to these reasons look pretty superficial.

Jamble
Agreed. It only shows that the individual's racism or discriminatory nature is alive and well.

I don't particularly like Romney's stance on certain issues with regard to religion, but he has strong positions on those issues which speak to ALL AMERICANS and this trumps any individual issue.

I'd rather see candidates focus more on that concept of speaking to ALL AMERICANS rather than just those of "special interests".

There are no interests that are not personal interests.

Grander issues are that of ALL AMERICANS finding common ground and then living free with personal choice and not narrow-minded ideology of someone's personal philosophy.

Demos Endorsing Illegals
The Demos love illegals that include muslims and Mexicans. Demos like illegals for votes. Demos like unions because of votes. Illegals and unions is an oxymoron. Who is knocking off union jobs? Demos like universal health care, a situation proved to be contrary to good health care. Will "free" health care drive away good docs and nurses? Well, one only has to look at the US government operation as a prime example of government control. It is full of people who could not earn half the amount in a private job. After the muslims get a good foothold in the US, Sharia law will take care of females who bare their teeth. "Put a sack on it" will have a new American meaning. NOW will be a then.

my generation
of men spawned the hillerys of this world and have ruined this country for all time. i am 59 and i say , again, my generation of "men" are the weakest known to civilization. yes, i am a man and have never supported what is now happening. very few women can successfully run a business let alone the free world. what a joke. cackle cackle cackle.

which sex kills their young to the tune of 1 million+ a year? they will soon be making decisions that determine the future of men the world over. look forward to that!! the sarahs have spoken. let the killing fields spread.


Women's Suffrage
If you plan to take away women's voting rights, then you must also stop making women pay taxes. A bigger right in USA is no taxation without representation - which is mostly ignored in DC. And you might as well make them wear a burkha and beat them and also fire them from all jobs including surgeons. And there are people who are born both male and female. I have known three of them in my life, do they get to vote?

Male chauvinism never solved anything. Men who are secure about their manhood, do not make ugly comments about women. I am NOT a fan or member of NOW - I call them the NAGS. But most of my friends are women and ALL are conservative. When it is election time we women do all the footwork and legwork. We run the polling station and we run the local Republican HQ where people come to get their signs, bumper stickers, info. Because our husbands are busy at work and cannot do this. So you men if you take away the vote, you can plan to do all these chores, you will HAVE to take off work for several weeks during every campaign cycle. Good luck. I know a lot of liberal men, but very few liberal women.

If riding around on the back of a man
is being an accomplished woman, count Hillary in.

Achievement? How about a snob
Hillary was just First Lady. What did she do as First Lady, nothing. She kept to herself. Wouldn't allow anyone to enter her circle of friends, and wouldn't come anywhere near the American people. That ridiculous Health plan she tried to pull over on the American people behind closed doors really showed, how out of touch Hillary is with the American people. Here Hillary was supposed to be doing something for the people, and even the people weren't allowed to see what she was doing. Hillary's experiences in Washington is only because politicians are the only people Hillary can relate to, because they have power to make changes. What power and changes can the American people make, other then on election day. Now, the American people are Hillary's best friends. She even smiles at people with a face that only frowned, when she had to come out in public with Bill. What can there possibility be that Hillary and the American people can talk about, other then the topics Hillary wants to talk about. Voting for Hillary because you want to see history made, is a poor reason seeing how it's this country which going to be stuck with the Clintons again.

Marriage in the que
donnieboy and buffy - if you two hate the same people it's a match

BuffyT
You and all your friends are conservative? Not even just Republicans, but conservatives. Wow. Good for y'all.
Somehow, i don't think any great number of men want to take away your shoes or your vote. And thank you for your contribution to good govt of our fair republic. Poll workers make an important contribution far greater than the usual appreciation they receive.

Savage99
I enjoyed your sarcastic response to buffy - it made me laugh so early this morning. Thanks.

donnieboy
Like Buffy, I think you have odd extrapolations from the article. I the case of Buffy, not backing Hillary for president doesn't mean women shouldn't vote. Likewise, Hillary having attached herself to the accomplishments of others rather than being incredibly accomplished herself doesn't mean there are no accomplished women

To maverick
I share your belief that American government should be transparent to the American public. Tell us please, how did you feel when Dick Cheney met "behind closed doors" with energy company executives to re-write our national energy policy? If you recall, Cheney not only refused to reveal the names of those with whom he met, but went all the way to the Supreme Court to maintain his secrecy. Then, the week before the Court was to decide, he went duck-hunting with one of the judges who would decide the case, an act that might well have gotten an ordinary person (and the judge) severely reprimanded, if not put in jail.

You say "even the people were not allowed to see what [Hillary Clinton] was doing". Tell us, how do you feel about George W Bush ordering his Texas gubernatorial records to be shrink-wrapped on pallets and locked up for years to come when Texas law said they were to be sent to the state Archives? How about his hundreds of signing statements in which he (secretly) declares that he will not follow laws he has just (publicly) signed? How about the move to make the White House entry log secret and off-limits to reportorial or Congressional scrutiny? How about the signing statement just last week that will prevent the Armed Services Committee of Congress from getting prompt data from intelligence officials? We have never had a more secretive government than Bush/Cheney---why don't you tell us how you feel about that? Or do you think anything Bush and Cheney do is OK because they are in charge and you voted for them?

You don't sound like much of a maverick. You sound like more of a sheep.

Correction
When you say "now we've sown the wind" are you trying to quote Scripture? Maybe the line you mean is "He that troubleth his own house shall inherit the wind...". You've got it backwards. And he that treateth a woman like a piece of furniture shall inherit a great deal of unhappiness, as probably you have learned by now. Or is learning something you ever do?

The problems with Romney...
He used to be pro-gun control and wanted nothing to do with the NRA, but now he's against gun grabbers and thinks the NRA is peachy. He came across as a member of the open borders and amnesty crowd whose position wasn't much different than that of John McCain on illegal immigration -- until it became a hot political issue -- and now he's running ads that make him sound like Tom Tancredo on the subject. Then there are the Bush tax cuts, embryonic stem cell research, and the military's "don't ask, don't tell" policy. There have been so many flips that the flops are still running about two blocks behind, trying to catch up.

Are these shifts genuine? Are they purely for politics' sake? Is Mitt Romney a conservative or is he a squish telling us what we want to hear while planning to take 3 or 4 steps back towards the middle once he feels less pressure to pander to the base? Probably the former, but there's no way to really know the truth. Do we really want a nominee in 2008 that we have this sort of questions about?


http://www.evangelicaloutpost.com/archives/004209.html

http://www.stephenbainbridge.com/index.php/punditry/comment s/the_case_against_romney/

To wildwest
Do you have a daughter? What would you think if she went alone, late at night, to a room where she knew her boss was working alone, lifted her skirt to show him her underpants, and twanged her thong at him? Would you see that as him "molesting" her? That's what Monica did.

Bill Clinton's judgment in responding to Monica's sexual overtures was simply terrible judgment. I certainly don't dispute that. But Monica was not a molested innocent. And the series of whores who got involved with him weren't innocents either.

This thread has something to do with women's rights. If women are empowered, then they are responsible for what they do. No fair taking off the clothes, assuming the position, and saying, "Hows about it, Big Boy?" then crying "Rape!".

To JD's Stupid Son
Re Kennedy/Kopechne: Oh, now you are worried about people getting killed? For months you have been posting detailed suggestions for ways you would like all registered Democrats, elected Democratic office-holders, liberals, and even all residents of a "liberal neighborhood" to be rounded up, incarcerated, tortured, gassed, shot, and cremated. I wouldn't think you'd be even faintly troubled by a passed-out girl in the back seat of a car drowning accidentally. Death seems to be one of your favorite subjects.

lilly, here's the thing
The older generation has a responsibility to direct the younger in all areas, PARTICULARLY in areas of sexuality.

I have been working with young adults (12-21) for going on 25 years now. When I was younger, some of the boys who more easily connected with females sexually hit on me- sometimes with only a few years between us. Part of being an adult and in a leadership position is to first CONTROL MYSELF, and then redirect the younger person. Those were teachable moments! Bill is older than Monica by 20+ years, AND he was the President!!

I have a 16 year old daughter, and if it were her (she's WAY too savvy to be like Monica),it would be a separate issue from Bill's behavior. She would need to look at what made that an okay thing to do, but again, that's independent of the older leader's responsibilities to his wife and family, the younger generation, and his office. NO comparison.

I think you're being a bit old school about men being helpless servants of their pee-pees.

Sarah
"How dare you judge the Clinton marriage?". I believe the American public has a right to judge any elected/appointed government EMPLOYEE. You (and they, the office holders) seem to forget that their cushy jobs are provided to them by their EMPLOYERS!

You stated that "Many men who were President had more than one wife ...". Would you care to list the 'many' (other than those who were widowed)?

Jet Pilot -
It is amazing how many lies and falsehoods you can pack into such a short post - you have a lot of real problems there fella.

Lilly

A moral man, especially one with a daughter, would have sent the thong twanger on her way, instead of encouraging adultery.
But then , you are willing to excuse Bill and Hillary's bad behavior, because their politics reflect yours

Joe
The big difference i see between Mitt and McC is that McC has pulled his CINO BS over the long haul, with no political justification and apparently based on some set of principles i don't understand, but i know i don't like. Mitt is certainly suddenly finding all sorts of conservative principles he didn't talk about or do much with as gov of MA. I can go along with a certain amount of this, excusing it as possibly done as a political necessity. But Mitt comes out ahead with me in at least 3 areas. He is much more intelligent, much more of an achiever, when it comes to actually doing something besides just getting elected. Second, his views, even when leftist, have not trashed the constitution like McC/F, and third, He seems much more in touch with the conservative wing of the republican party, namely me. I have had it with Bush 41, bush 43 and a host of other republicans seeking kudos from the left.

I wish posters could keep to topic
1. Just because Hillary is a harridan does not mean all women who hold jobs outside the home are.

2. I work in entrepreneurship education, and a STAGGERING amount of women do run businesses, and successfully.

3. We have every right to evaluate every aspect of Hillary's personal life as it relates to her character, her truthfulness, and her fitness to be President of the United States. And that includes her marriage. If she chooses to stay in her marriage because of ambition, co-dependency, or some other combination of pathologies, that's her business, but it hardly qualifies her to tell everyone else how to run their lives.

4. As for abortion, it takes TWO to create a child. And while the law permits women to make the decision unilaterally to destroy their child (which I abhor, by the way), we can't count the number of shallow, calous deadbeats who abandon their wives, girlfriends and children - born and unborn. Does that make ALL men cads? Of course not.

5. Kennedy and others are supporting Obama because they cannot stand Hillary. Not because she is a woman, but because she is a lying, manipulative creep who has bullied the rest of the Dems for years with threats and intimidation. They can't stand her or her limelight-addicted self-aggrandizing Shill-in-Chief. Barack Obama is a breath of fresh air - truthful, liberal, and unintimidated by the Clintons. Now I just hope he doesn't cave into the "Go-along-with-us;next-time-it-will-be-your-turn" crap that the Clintons are pitching now. If Obama is REALLY as smart as everyone says he is, he will continue to run his OWN campaign, get the nomination, woo the nation, and bury the Clinton's seemingly endless political aspirations once and for all.

6. Spare me the irrelevant crap about giving women the vote. I know enough idiot men to say the same thing about them. It solves nothing and it proves nothing except that the poster is an ignorant cretin.

there you go again, lilly
spewing out statements and pretending they are facts.....hillary is an empty suit, nothing more. and she depends on empty brains for her support.

Lilly

I believe the reference was to:
Hosea 8:7 For they have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind: it hath no stalk: the bud shall yield no meal: if so be it yield, the strangers shall swallow it up.

We can expect harship tomorrow for our bad decisions today.

lilly

"Do you have a daughter? What would you think if she went alone, late at night, to a room where she knew her boss was working alone, lifted her skirt to show him her underpants, and twanged her thong at him? Would you see that as him "molesting" her? That's what Monica did."

Are you excusing Bill's behaviour and placing the blame solely on Monica?

btw ergum
when you say woo the nation you mean democrats i assume. because i see obama as the same as hillary, so when he says he will unite the country i have to laugh. i would no more support his agenda then hers.

Ergum:
I agree posters should stick to the topic. What was the topic again?

After reading so many ranting, cracked-brained, albeit frequently hilarious, posts I just can't remember.

As a woman...
I have to say there are females in our society that are nothing but empty headed bubblebrains. Not all us femmes are so brainwashed. We do see the evil in Hillary Clinton. One woman tried to convince me that Hillary was a good role model for our young girls. I laughed and told her Hillary Clinton was only good as a role model to teach girls how NOT to be. She whined that that was slander. I continued to laugh. After all, Hillary IS a laughing matter.

I do not vote for a party. I also will not vote for a woman just because she is a woman (I've heard that idiotic arguement before). I will vote for the candidate that I feel is the best choice for the nation as a whole. I'm sorry to say my choices are extremely limited. And on that note, I think we should all be angry that our choices are dictated to us by the media and party delegates. Interesting how our elections system has been overrun without our knowledge or consent by power-hungry political parties. Maybe we need to rid ourselves of all political parties.

As a woman...
I have to say there are females in our society that are nothing but empty headed bubblebrains. Not all us femmes are so brainwashed. We do see the evil in Hillary Clinton. One woman tried to convince me that Hillary was a good role model for our young girls. I laughed and told her Hillary Clinton was only good as a role model to teach girls how NOT to be. She whined that that was slander. I continued to laugh. After all, Hillary IS a laughing matter.

I do not vote for a party. I also will not vote for a woman just because she is a woman (I've heard that idiotic arguement before). I will vote for the candidate that I feel is the best choice for the nation as a whole. I'm sorry to say my choices are extremely limited. And on that note, I think we should all be angry that our choices are dictated to us by the media and party delegates. Interesting how our elections system has been overrun without our knowledge or consent by power-hungry political parties. Maybe we need to rid ourselves of all political parties.

I said "woo the nation"
... because that's what the Presidential campaign has become. I don't expect Repubs or Libertarians to vote for Obama in great numbers (but see Selena Zito's column today). But that's what Obama will try to do.

I would expect that most conservatives would not vote for him because he has insufficient experience, and because his policies are unabashedly liberal.

The right to pass judgement on a marriag
We most definately have the right to pass judgement on the Clinton marriage and her "right" to be our president. SHE has made her "marriage" to that goat a centerpiece of her campaign. HE is an "asset" we are told.

Well, here is what we know: Bubba was so busy satisfying his best frat house fantasies that he couldn't even make phone calls sending our guys into harm's way without the added bonus of getting his REAL head serviced. One scandal after another washed over this man leaving us ALL feeling dirty and used. And through it all, the "little woman" lied for him and sent her estimable bag men out to destroy the legions of women who had the guts to step forward. Oh yes...the "wronged wife". So brave. So strong. So full of it.

And re. her "experience". The only job we know she EVER had was with the Rose Law firm where she was the attorney of record for a failed land scam that stole the life savings of retired folks, BUT she doesn't remember it. We DO know she was the power behind the Travelgate scandal. We know that she was behind the failed health care mess. And we know she wears pink when she wants to fool an interviewer. Could she have been behind the theft of WH furniture and art, causing the Secret Service to have to retrieve TRUCKLOADS of stolen resources? hmmmm....

Oh YEAH- I want these two polished hillbillies squatting in the WH again...sure.

"Baby Doc" Clinton???
I have to totally agree with Loribme, she wrote: "As a woman... I have to say there are females in our society that are nothing but empty headed bubblebrains. Not all us femmes are so brainwashed. We do see the evil in Hillary Clinton. One woman tried to convince me that Hillary was a good role model for our young girls. I laughed and told her Hillary Clinton was only good as a role model to teach girls how NOT to be. She whined that that was slander. I continued to laugh. After all, Hillary IS a laughing matter."

I wish we had candidates with "Meat and Bones" not "message lite," don't tell WHAT you are going to do. You should have been showing me what you can do.

NO political office is a "RIGHT" of any person or group of people. I am very disappointed that that one of the "leads" has so much trash and baggage that the Media is ignoring and will not cover.

While those that are more prepared to occupy the Oval Office are trashed about with lies making headlines. -- Yup, Clinton Inc., is back on the job once more.

lilly
again you blame the victim. Bubba was expected to be the adult. His long history of being a sexual predator should make him a pariah, not one to be admired. If monica lifted her shirt what was to prevent hiom from telling her that was inappropiate behavior and called his security to escort her elsewhere. We keep hearing these fairy tales of the clinton's deep love for each other. It continues to insult most peoples intelligence. Disporive that not only was bubba a sexual predator with a long list of women he molested, but his adoring wife, the missus clinton headed up the bimbo patrol which sought to destroy the reputations of the women that told of bubbas predatory behavior. The missus clinton fought to defend bubba's right to molest women. Categorizing the women bubba molested as whores also shows a callousness about your attitude concerning them. What proof do you have to back up thatr statement. We expect our leaders to act like adults, bubba remains an immature male seemingly controlled by his uncontrollable lust for women. This is not who should be potus no matter how he caters his politics to the left who continue to give him a pass and make excuses for his behavior

the truth


Hillary stayed with Bill because there is no power in being the ex-wife of the President.

jet pilot
You wrote: "If Hillary winds I hope the GOP keeps a strong minority. If McCain wins I want the Dems to wind more seats in both houses. It's called the two party system. "
Apparently it's only a two party system when it's to your liking, but not the other way round.
Didn't bother to read the rest of your post(s).

NOW members
should console themselves. Obama is way more liberal than Hillary on their main concern. The only way he could get MORE liberal about it would be to vote for women's rights to kill their already born.

HILLARY
All she did was marry a man who was president.And he was impeached.It seems they will never go away.They are trash.

It's frightening that
...there are so many women who will vote for broomhillary simply because she IS a woman. If she had the real qualifications necessary to run this nation, it wouldn't bother me. She has no real experience and no people skills, (other than those that come from "Manipulation 101")

As it is, she's looking for the power in all the wrong places...and just may actually find it there.

That is a real scarey thought.

woody
what is scary when these same twits claim they admire the clintons and look to them as heroes. Pathetic lilly still suffers under the delusioin that monica forced bubba to pull down his zipper and bubba was not a sexual predator but merely the victim of countless women from the leisure industry. Almost makes you feel sorry for the poor white trash boy that so many women lined up to force themselves on him

For years the Kennedys
have been supporting the Islamo-fascist-terrorist murderers in every way. Of course they will support the candidate with the name "Hussein". This is why all the liberals should be arrested and prosecuted for treason.

The Clinton Chronicles
A very intresting VIDEO of the Bill and Hill Duo of Arkansas and Washington, D.C..

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-647045089516425508 9

Hillary's "strength"
Unfortunately, the Hillary fans are mistaking her unabashed ruthlessness, her ability to CRUSH anyone who gets in her way without the slightest twinge of conscience, with strength.

When she fired the Travel Office in order to "get our people in," she had a right to do that, despite the fact those people had been doing their jobs under Dem & Republican administrations for years. But lest it LOOK like what it WAS, Hillary then sicked the FBI on them, particularly Billy Dale, turning a simple job loss into a long and difficult struggle to defend against bogus charges. (Recall the jury found Mr. Dale innocent after a very short deliberation.)

Hillary actually IS meaner than a junkyard dog. The junkyard dog is not deliberately cruel. The junkyard dog is at least merely doing his job, not mindlessly trying to injure innocents for no reason other than PR.

oldsocialworker
"I think you're being a bit old school about men being helpless servants of their pee-pees."

WELL said. I love it.

Hillary and N. O. W.
The New York chapter of N. O. W. says Hillary took a hit when Ted Kennedy endorsed Obama?

Really? How Clintonesque: right out of their playbook. The subordinate issues a virulant statement, then the superior claims "we" never meant that. Meanwhile, the statement is out there - and even casts Hillary as somewhat of a victim. It's called an attack coupled with "plausible denialbility."

Robyn...
Your post of Sunday, February, 03, 2008 10:16 AM was a great synopsis of Hillary's resume.

How dare you judge the Clinton marriage?
What an incredibly pompous and arrogant liberal attack on the simple act of political perception and judgment!

I suppose everyone's required to eat and regurgitate when required the liberal media party line when it comes to making political evaluations, just as it was in the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany.

Besides, I don't see the liberals checking any of their vile characterizations and judgments when it comes to republicans and conservatives, the masters of smears, vilification, character assassination that they are.

This Sarah character needs an historical reference in order to check her condescending speech requirements in the context of an open debate in a free society.

Now supports women?
NOW is a left wing politial organization. It proved its that and not pro women when it supported Bill Clinton over the women he assalted.

Margaret Thatcher is a strong women
deserving of respect. Hillary Clinton is a shrew deserving none.

your'e right Pete
The same pattern over and over, abstract statements released by some underling only to be "clarified" shortly thereafter by the head honcho. As the nomination process continues, we will no doubt, see more of the same from Madam Cackle and Billy. For some women, MC's nomination is justifiable as a means to an end, however, as
BirdmanII wrote: I believe the reference was to:
Hosea 8:7 For they have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind: it hath no stalk: the bud shall yield no meal: if so be it yield, the strangers shall swallow it up.

We can expect harship tomorrow for our bad decisions today.

women who will sacrifice themselves at the feet of Clinton to fulfill their dreams, may sow the wind and they shall reap the whirlwind.

Polly even a liberal like me
Has to get a chuckle out of your junkyard dog analogy.

Austin
Do you have someone proof-read your columns for grammar? You really should.

Paparazzi and Sports reporters
would undoubtedly give us a clearer picture of what the candidates were all about, than the pathetic job we're getting from the mainstream media bootlickers.

For Robyn
Great post.

And I'll never forget her actually kissing Suha (sp?) Arafat when she visited the White House...


Glad you enjoyed it, bryce3

I believe we now have confirmation:
bryce3 is NOT Billy Dale's screen name.

I think Mr. Dale probably does NOT chuckle about Hillary's, uh, propensities. [But what the heck, he was not really human, no one to worry about, just another dispensible government hack, just a faceless old man, eh?]

To Lilly
"Do you have a daughter? What would you think if she went alone, late at night, to a room where she knew her boss was working alone, lifted her skirt to show him her underpants, and twanged her thong at him? Would you see that as him "molesting" her? That's what Monica did.

Bill Clinton's judgment in responding to Monica's sexual overtures was simply terrible judgment."

"Sometimes it's hard to be a woman..." when I have to listen to drivel like your remark. May I ask you one question - what gave Monica the idea that she could get away with this kind of slutty behavior in THE WHITE HOUSE??? Can you, in your wildest imagination (and I think you do have a rich imagination)think of yourself doing what she did to a sitting President? Don't you think she might have known something about the man before she did that?????

Think, woman, think

To Higene
I think I'd rather "roll the dice" than knowingly elect this woman, knowing full well that, by electing her to the most powerful position on earth, it will ruin any chance for my kids to grow up in a truly free society.

Even worse is that we'll also have to deal with Bubba Billy again. They'll come as a matched set of liars, not so cleverly hiding the fact that Bill will, for all intents and purposes, be serving a third term.

Woody from Iowa


idahogal
actually there is no way to know who initiated the original contact between bubba and monica. It's conceivably possible bubba asked to see what she was wearing and monica later changed the story to make it look like she was in control. TYhe only thing that is indisputable is that bubba failed to act like an adult who was the leader of the country. It never bothered him his behavior was occuring in the peoples house.

Hillary ? Are you for Real?
Women say they would vote for Hillary just because she is a women, or because they just want to help elect the first woman President, those are not valid legitimate reasons to make her President.

Do a Google search on "Hillary scandals or "Clinton scandals,there are many articles with supporting facts about all the past (and some ongoing) questionable wrongdoings, improprieties, and scandals the Clintons have been involved in, and we should remember that Bill C. was IMPEACHED by the HOUSE of REPS for PERJURY and OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE, although acquitted by the SENATE, he still lied to the American People. This negative blemish on his presidential record will forever remain in our history book, we cannot be proud of him or any other president who has misused or abused their sworn service to our country. They have said with Hillary we would get two Presidents for the price of one. How absurd!! Two wrongs don't make a right!!

I believe any PERSON who votes for her is either uneducated, uninformed, or is supporting her based on their own personal political agenda and not thinking of what is best for our country.

Consider the facts and how the wrong choice will affect all of us, our children and grandchildren. If HRC is elected, do you truly believe she would be the most HONEST, DEDICATED, and RESPECTED leader of the United States of America? Do you truly believe she would do what's right for the hard working people of this country (in a democratic fashion and not in a socialistic fashion) or would her own self interest and appetite for power supersede her devotion to us, the citizenry of today, as well as generations to come?

Do your homework...Do the right thing..

And a Burack/Clinton ticket, forget it! As bad as I want to vote Democrat, if Hillary is involved in any manner, I will vote Republican again…


Sarah: 1:54 AM post
Sarah, you silly woman. You may be trying to denounce Hill, but you are taking his position to do it. You see, in defending Hillary's partnership with Bill, you are taking the anti-feminist position.

According to the feminist mantra, a truly liberated woman does not NEED a man to assist her in her ambitions. Hill was merely pointing out the obvious fact (with which you implicitly agreed) that Hillary relies very much on the synergy provided by their partnership. Hill does not say there was anything wrong with this concept in general - only that it was contradictory to the feminist view of things.

Sarah, maybe you should stop worrying your little head about all these boring old political ideas and find some domestic chores to tend to.


to Austin Hill
I think it's funny that you are questioning Hillary's level of achievement.

I'm sure you are comparing it unfavorably to your own, that of writing smug, sad little diatribes that savage people who disagree with you in order to get your weekly paycheck.

Or are you just feeling grumpy because Hillary get's more attention than you do?

gee touj
please tell me what hillary accomplishments are. i'd like to know

umm...yeah
It's not that Hillary is strong, but that men have become weak.

Who would McCain put on the Court?
If you are concerned about the Supreme Court, please read this article before voting:

realchange.townhall.com

truthseeker
the missus clinton's greatest accomplishment was her success at defending his right to be a sexual predator and never suffer real consequences of his pitiful behavior

Liberals underestimate women
If NOW thinks that Hillary Clinton is an accomplished woman, they really have some serious issues. Women are capable of a lot more than marrying a powerful man, running a pyramid scheme, having a State of Arkansas slush-fund, snooping through people's raw FBI files, using illicit fund-raising practices, and destroying the reputations of innocent people.

But NOW assumes that women can't really be expected to accomplish that much, without massive government programs to help them. (I won't tell them about Phyllis Schlafly if you don't; why burst their bubble)

Sarah
I think you may be projecting something onto Hill's Column that wasn't there. The point of the column wasn't "don't vote for Hillary because her marriage is a sham", it was that endorsing Obama over Hillary isn't anti-woman. The comment that Kennedy's endorsement "hit women hard" was the impetus for the column.

Come to think of it, I doubt that that is the hardest a Kennedy ever hit a woman. By Teddy Kennedy standards, if she survived to tell the tale she got off lucky.

I laughed my way thru these responses
WOW! Did I ever laugh my way thru many of the responses! It is like I am another planet with aliens! It was kind-of-fun. Except it was really happening! Scary isn't it! Everyone have a Happy Super Tuesday!

the missus clinton
today she visited 4 black churcges. Exactly why does she spend her time at black churches at the expense of white churches, it seems like she is catering to the dims favorite minority group. The missus clinton tells herself and others her perfected lie that she is a unifyier. The reality is she campaigns as the president for special interest groups. The only time she speaks of repubs and the right is to tell how she has fought them for the past 16 years. She thinks the right will support her merely because she might end up as president. Repbus vboted to confirm bubba appointees. The missus clinton has opposed all repub nominees. I wonder how happy she will be when she inherits the gridlock she has enabled in wash. Her other lie is that she has been fully vetted. In truth she has yet to explain the many activities of the clinton crime family and her role in the many scandals surrounding both her and bubba.She is running on this fantasy of years of experience but is both unwilling and unable to provide a paper trail backing up her claims that she was the active policy maker in bubba's years as president. She doesn't trust the american people but demands we take her at her word and the public already knows the clintons and truth are generally at polar opposites

Lilly
I'm old, too, Lilly. I've admired and respected many, many women and lots and lots of men over the years--but the Clintons are not among them. They are the very worst of the power and money opportunists that I've observed over the years. The politics of personal distruction is the least of it. Murder, selling out our wonderful country (think China and Saudi Arabia for starters) and no consciences--is who they are. They care nothing for you or me, our grandchildren, or our country. It's about mansions in D.C. and N.Y., a million dollar penthouse in Ireland (!!) and who knows what on that Caribean Island. They can't tell me it's not about the money!!

Hillary & Bill
"...... ..., and assured voters that she’ll be able to “control him” when they return to the White House".

She'll be able to CONTROL him? We don't need this kind of crap going on in the White House! She'll have her hands full having "touchy-feely" meetings with bin Laden & Al Quaida, ah--to find out why they hate us so much!

Look out all you Republicans, she'll be out to bury you for impeaching her precious Bill!

Control
The hidabeast will control 'slick Willie' the same as 'slick Willy' controlled Bin Laden when he had the perfect opportunity to take that skunk down.

Not! That would be politically incorrect.

Anyone who worships the Clintons in light of this predictable behavior are permanently bankrupt in their morals.

Woody from Iowa

Two peas, one corrupted pod

Hillary this, Bush that. Liberal this, Neo-con that. Don't you people get it yet? They are the exact same thing. We, the serfs, continue to lose our freedoms while paying the ever increasing taxes that buy votes for the elite. How do they get away with this? Because we are too busy bickering amongst ourselves to see the crimes they are ALL committing against the Constitution (you know, that "damned piece of paper.") So all of you, keep bickering and keep mocking Ron Paul and his supporters. We can take it. Just remember, when the elites totally destroy this country, and you're killing your neighbors for a turnip, you'll have no one to blame but yourselves. At least we tried.

Strong Women
If she had any balls she'd divorce the rounder.

A Woman Of Character
This, along with integrity, honesty, ability and
compassion is what an intelligent woman seeking a
position of POTUS should possess. I look to a day when we have someone like this in the people's house-the Whitehouse. Unfortunately, this woman is NOT Hillary Clinton. She is NO role model for any women out there, as she has been an 'enabler for a rapist that she stayed married to in order to achieve her desire of her own political career.' She attacked the women a second time, after her husband? did the first-by
hiring goons/detectives to 'get dirt' on them, and ruin their lives. She has proven how devious
and callous she can be, when anyone or anything gets in her way-EVEN Bill, according to Wh.house
staff/Secret Service-whom they referred to as "Pigs"? Her foul mouth, and convenient memory
of forgetting,don't recall-when questioned about
dubious deals/fundraising/people vanishing/jailed
fired/DEAD, as in Fosterized....THIS, is what you
want in our first woman President. As a woman,
I certainly do not, and I hope the young women of
our country and N.O.W., don't want her because of
her gender....we ARE BETTER than this, and should
NOT want less for ourselves. She cleaned up Bill's messes, but not without causing women MORE
ruination. Ted Kennedy, who killed a woman as he
saved his own fat arse, is NO ONE that N.O.W. should be worried about either, as they should have denounced him at the time, and stood up for a woman, Ms.Kopeckny who was not here to defend herself. N.O.W. looks like an organization that
is easily fooled by another woman like Hillary,
and yet looks the other way over the rotten behavior of Bill or Kennedy. You need to get behind people of character, integrity and goodness-NOT FAKES WHO LUST AFTER POWER AND MONEY
AND USE ANYONE WHO CAN FULFILL THOSE DESIRES.

Hillary's "Right" to be President
Given that Hillary was "co-president" with Bill, (their term, not mine), she has already been president once. This would be her second term. So what's all the gasping about?

If hillary was really
all that independant and strong, she would have divorced that scumbag husband of hers and run on her "record".

Since she doesn't have a record that qualifies her for anything other than clean up girl after one of his dalliances, she rides his coattails to a senate seat for which she is also not qualified.

Now she thinks she is somehow entitled to be president for putting up with his crap all these years and covering for him by attacking the very women he abused and in some instances raped.

Any women who supports or votes for her ought to have her head examined.

This election is about keeping our country and our kids safe, not setting some ridiculous precedent of electing a women or a black guy.

This shows just how far we have fallen thanks to liberal thinking in this country, that either of these 2 are really being considered for the presidency is ludicrous.

Lilly shows her true self:
“And the series of whores who got involved with him weren't innocents either.”

Bill’s just a little misguided while the women he’s philandered with, consensually and non-consensually, are “whores.”

In the World According to Lilly we have Liberal Principle #46: Women should never be referred to as “whores,” except when doing so is politically expedient for the Left.

This goes along with Liberal Principle #47: Any form of sexual misconduct against a woman, including the telling of racy jokes, should be prosecuted with the utmost ferocity, except when it involves Bill Clinton or (insert name of any other liberal), in which case everything from molestation to rape shall be excused and ignored.

My opinion of Hillary is ...
VOTE FOR FRED

Fred Thompson has withdrawn from the race for president. Fred Thompson is still our choice. Fred Thompson, a young attorney working for the justice department, hand picked by Ronald Reagan, helped defend some of our choices to vote for “the Republican,” Richard Nixon. Fred Thompson, as a senior Republican diplomat, left us with a coherent interpretation of our conservative views. Fred Thompson gave us a conservative focus that allowed us to find a new interpretation of ourselves as Republicans. Fred crafted thoughts and opinions into simple effective coherent statements and published those, point by point on his website as a primer to assist in finding our way as a nation. Fred has set an example and laid the groundwork for the next generation Conservative.

Vote your principles, GIVE FRED DELAGATES IN THE CONVENTION, no need to waste the signs, keep them up as a symbol of principal. We now have a responsibility to choose again, as for me, I’m going to vote for Fred if his name is on the ballot.

Sticking to our guns and strength and standing by Fred now costs one vote. The campaign for the White House was about us, not Fred. The campaign for the White House was about who we chose to lead, not the available choices. Give Fred the delegates in the convention to symbolize our conviction to our principles, not for Fred, for us.

The right to choose cost some of our fellow citizens, countrymen and family the ultimate price. Our price for our right to choose based on our principles is one vote.

VOTE FOR FRED…

Dennis McIntire, “The Constituent”
http://www.dennisforlife.com

Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost.
John Quincy Adams

The Left’s Just-Dessert
Over the years it’s been the Left that has created and fostered an atmosphere in which one could never criticize a person of color for fear of being labeled as a ‘racist.’ As Higene noted (2:20 p.m.), Bill Clinton has some valid points in his criticisms of Obama; but now he’s finding out what it’s like to be on the wrong end of the P.C. police. I can’t help but enjoy seeing someone on the Left become the target of this scam for a change.

What would a man do?
If you’re wondering what Hillary’s tolerance of Bill’s behavior says about her ‘equal’ place in their marriage, ask yourself this question: Would a man tolerate the same sort of behavior from his wife? And: If he did, would we still vote for him? The answer is “no” to both questions.

No self-respecting man would put up with such disrespect from his spouse, especially if her extra-marital exploits were common knowledge all over the world. If he did, he would be seen as weak and pathetic and he’d never win a political race.

Here in America we like to pretend that we have come to point at which men and women are equal partners in a marriage, deserving of equal respect. So the next question is: Has Hillary’s very public acceptance of Bill’s disrespectful behavior helped or hurt the cause of women to establish themselves as equals? I say it’s hurt the women’s movement, and it’s hard to see how anyone could argue otherwise.

Is it 1984, yet?
"Senator Kennedy's endorsement of Hillary Clinton's opponent in the Democratic presidential primary campaign has really hit women hard..."

Translation: "What's good for Hillary Clinton is good for women in general"

"What's good for M&M Enterprises is good for the county" - Joseph Heller, [i]Catch-22[/i]

Chocolate covered cotton, anyone?

Accomplishments?
Clinton was my US Senator for 6 years and she did absolutely nothing to benefit her constituents, only herself. If I were looking for a CEO to run a $100M company, based on her "accomplishments" I would not even grant her an interview. (Ditto for Obama.)

When we go to the polls to elect the CEO of our $13.44 trillion GDP nation and leader of the free world, we should evaluate four qualifications - Leadership, Integrity, Experience and National Policy.

Based on the "accomplishments", I see no reason why Hillary Clinton should be considered for President. What am I missing?

Random Shrillary thoughts
1. Hillary has less than five years of elected experience. Her accomplishments during that time benefited mostly herself.

2. Hillary doesn't really understand that Bill wants back into the White House, and thinks he not only deserves it, but the country wants him back. He won't share power very well with Hillary.

3. Failure is not an option. If Her Thighness goes down on Super Tuesday, her marriage is over. Look for her to go back to being a Senator for Life, and coming out as a lesbian with Huma at her side. I give that three months to happen.

ADD THIS TO HILLARY'S RESUME
HERE WE GO AGAIN---A TEARFUL MOMENT IN CT. TODAY!

IF HILLARY KEEPS THIS UP,HER GOOSE IS COOKED!

RESUME ENHANCER------NOT!

THIS WOMAN DOESN'T KNOW THE FIRST THING ABOUT 'RUFF TIMES'OR USEFUL BACKGROUND TO BE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.

HILLARY IS A SELF-ABSORBED, SPOILED BRAT WHO WILL NEVER GROW UP!!!!!

BACK TO ARKANSAS--EVEN NEW YORKERS DON'T LIKE HER.

Accomplishments
Don't forget that Democrats tend to expect little of women and minorities. They think Obama is accomplished because he bathes regularly and speaks in complete sentences.

Truth About Hillary!
Clinton’s ‘35 years of change’ omits most of her career


McClatchy: To hear Hillary Clinton talk, she’s spent her entire career putting her Yale Law School degree to work for the common good. She routinely tells voters that she’s “been working to bring positive change to people’s lives for 35 years.” She told a voter in New Hampshire: “I’ve spent so much of my life in the nonprofit sector.” Speaking in South Carolina, Bill Clinton said his wife “could have taken a job with a firm … Instead she went to work with Marian Wright Edelman at the Children’s Defense Fund.”

The overall portrait is of a lifelong, selfless do-gooder. The whole story is more complicated — and less flattering.

Clinton worked at the Children’s Defense Fund for less than a year, and that’s the only full-time job in the nonprofit sector she’s ever had. She also worked briefly as a law professor.

Clinton spent the bulk of her career — 15 of those 35 years — at one of Arkansas’ most prestigious corporate law firms, where she represented big companies and served on corporate boards.

READ MORE


http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/clintons-35-years- of-change-omits-most-of-her-career

Daddio writes
"Hillary's "Right" to be President
Given that Hillary was "co-president" with Bill, (their term, not mine), she has already been president once. This would be her second term. So what's all the gasping about? "

The Clintons were elected to two terms not one. And since the constitution only says you can serve two terms that would mean she would be barred from seeking a third.

This thread
is proof of the fact that the right wing wanted Bill roasted alive for extra-marital sex, not for lying.

Why does the right think that Presidents are not entitled to a private life? Why does the right apparently think no one is entitled to a private life, for that matter?

You aren't interested in how someone runs the country, you are only interested in who they sleep with.

Conservatives seem to love mythologizing - Reagan, the Clintons, Coulter - definitely a major creep-out, as my granddaughter would say.

It's a form
of religiousity, and comes from the same part of the brain. The canonization of Reagan is no different than the demonization of Hillary and Bill as anti-Christs...Superstition, ignorance, magical thinking, and faith in the invisible world.

Touj
"Why does the right think that Presidents are not entitled to a private life?"

Hey, granny, most of us conservatives work 9-5 to pay the taxes for your social giveaways. During those working hours when we are on the company clock, we cannot have sex in our office. If we do, we would be terminated. The President works for the American Company and the rules of ethics should be no less. He can have sex on his own time at night with his wife or anyone else, but not on company time in the Oval Office. While Al-Qaeda was plotting, Bill was getting Monica BJ's.

This is no joke
I worked for a company in Houston where they had a Director of Ethics. The job of this person was to maintain go ethics in the workplace, including rules against sexual harrassment, discrimination, etc. Does anyone want to take a guess at the name of this person? His name is Bill Clinton. I kid you not.

Time to grow up, Touj.
“Why does the right think that Presidents are not entitled to a private life?”

Sounds like you’re not much more mature than your grand daughter.

Republicans understand that a person’s ‘private’ behavior can say a lot about his character. A president’s attitudes towards marriage and women in general, are important because of the influence he has over policy, judgeships, etc. Clinton tried to hide his behavior because he knew that most normal people, and even some liberals, would disapprove.

That being said, the impeachment was about perjury and abuse of power. Clinton used the power of his office to try and prevent another U.S. citizen (whose rights he was sworn to protect, btw) from having her fair day in court against him. Were we supposed to just ignore that? Does the integrity of our justice system mean nothing to you at all? He had his trial (a fair one, btw) and in the end he was allowed to remain in office.

touj the moron
bubba defiled the peoples house by molesting a young intern in the oval office. Bubba got impeached for surborning perjury. But imbeciles like you probably are upset it was monica that serviced the president and not you.

Bill Clinton Is Hillary's Achievement.
It is clear, that without Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton would not be in the Senate and certainly not a Presidential Candidate.

Hillary allowed Bill to disrespect her as a woman, a wife, and mother, for her future political goals.

Hillary Clinton epitomizes a weak woman, who needs a man, in order to have any accomplishments.

The First Woman President will be a strong, intelligent,independent, woman who made it on her resume, and not her husband's resume.

touj.
Bill Clinton was disbarred in Arkansas. I happen to think that if you are too crooked to be an Arkansas lawyer, you are too crooked to be president.

It was the left-wing media that kept the focus on his sex-life, making him look like a martyr. After all, who would want the details of their sex-life all over the news?

With any other offender, the fact that the crimes were sex-related would get him beaten up by the other felons. With Bill he actually used the fact that he is a sexual predator as a shield. Baffling!

Touj
Consider this, he was prosecuted for lying, doesn't matter what the subject. It does seem from your side that lying is okay.
Ross Perot, if he found out one of his managers ws cheating on his/her spouse they were fired, his rational, if your spouse can't trust you, how can I trust you? Answer?
In public or private do you condone this behavoir? If you break trust is your word good?

Also
I don't pin his adultery on her, but she knew who she was married to, why else during is first bid for office did she head up the "bimbo eruptions team"?

Savage 99
as a resident of MA, I can empathize with Mitt Romney - the fact that he was as successful as he was in getting legislation passed is a miracle in itself with the democratic-packed state government! The man has a lot on the ball and I, for one, would LOVE to see him in charge of our government! Let him begin with his cost-saving ideas such as shutting down half the useless departments. Government workers make way more than they are worth and it appears nothing much gets done even with high salaries being the norm. I'd love to see the government payroll slashed. And let's have a national welfare to work program. And NO welfare or ANY OTHER government benefits to non-citizens! Yes, our country needs a businessman to straighten things out and tell Congress they really do NOT have a money tree from which to pick and pick and pick to their collective heart's content!

lilly
What is your reasoning to place the blame on Monica?? I'm sure most Americans wouldn't be able to have access to the office of the president without his permission! Yet, somehow she got in...not once, not twice, but several times! Hmmmmm Guess it's all HER fault! How you women-libbers can give this sorry excuse for a male a bye over and over again is beyond me! IT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF AN ADULT TO HAVE CONTROL OVER SUCH SITUATIONS! And this particular adult failed to assume that responsibility over and over and over again.

I would have had an ounce of respect for Hillary if she had left him - but I have nothing but contempt for her for staying and denigrating the innocent (and some not-so-innocent) women that he used and abused over the length of their marriage. She stayed with him ONLY for her own political gain...she is NOTHING without him and there is nothing anyone can say or do to make that fact disappear!!!

cape conserv
lilly can't help but blame all the women for forcing her hero bubba to submit to their wiles. He couldn't help himself and he couldn't defend himself from the women that forced him to accept bj's. But how does she know monica was the aggressor. Kathleen willey maintained bubba started the assault on her. It is more than likely bubba also assaulted monica and got her to change her story so that she was viewed as the aggressor and also to believe she had seduced the pervert

To Incredulous, lilly
To Incredulous:
One might suggest that it was Sen. Clinton's political ambition and nice sense for potential advantage that enabled her to put up with Pres. Clinton's indiscretions and indiscipline.




To lilly:
"Do you have a daughter? What would you think if she went alone, late at night, to a room where she knew her boss was working alone, lifted her skirt..."

I have three daughters, and I would be unspeakably disappointed if one of them did such a thing. However, the actions of my daughter could in NO way allay the man's responsibility to uphold his marriage vows. It in NO way could excuse his own selfish indiscipline. The female CANNOT share any portion of that blame; it is his alone because HE is the one who took the vows.
Pres. Clinton CANNOT get a 'pass' on this; if one wants to claim that he 'couldn't help himself' in the face of her overwhelming sexual appeal... well, then one might argue that a rapist couldn't help attacking the provocatively dressed young woman in the parking lot. Are you SURE that is a principle you want to establish?

"But Monica was not a molested innocent. And the series of whores who got involved with him weren't innocents either."

Represent them how you will, no married man with any integrity has any business consorting with whores, either.

"This thread has something to do with women's rights."

It sure does. In the context of your own comments, women should have the RIGHT to expect their husbands to honor their marriage vows, even in the face of temptation... rather than have those betrayals excused away as if their men were little boys convulsively grasping at candy.

I know that defending Pres. Clinton is a knee-jerk response among progressive females (is it some sort of attraction? perhaps a crush?), but one cannot excuse or ameliorate Pres. Clinton's betrayals and retain any principled respect for women.

To wildwest
Now, are you implying that Pres. Clinton would use the influence of his office to pressure Ms. Lewinsky into lying about the incident? And are you suggesting that Ms. Lewinsky might be of such low character that she might succumb?

As for the bizarre fixation that progressive females so often have on Pres. Clinton -- I can't decide whether they regard him as a desirable hunk, or regard him indulgently as an overgrown boy. But the result seems to be the same. They rally the wagons around him in ways totally contrary to the very spirit of feminism.

You've GOT to be kidding
How anyone with a thinking brain could believe Mrs. Bill Clinton is anywhere near qualified to be Commander in Chief is beyond me.

NEA - you've done a swell job.

smartest woman in the world
if hilly is so smart, how come she couldn't recall the futures fund she invested 1000 usd to reap a 100000 usd payout? she told the senate committee, i don't remember what the investment was.
i could be a moron, but i would remember what the name was and put maybe 5000 usd for the next time.
when the last a.g. gonzales testified and said he didn't remember things about firing staff, hilly said that the 'i don't remember bit is not acceptable to the senate'.

when the rose law firm account books for whitewater showed up the day after the subpoenae expired out side her br in the whitehouse, hillie was asked how they got there by the senate committee. the lawyers answer, i don't know how they happened to be found.
susan mcd wasn't going to testify against the clintons. she remembered vince's suicide.
out out damn spot.
hilly would serve as hilly rodham and not clinton.

adios,
Harvey
Lancaster, Obamafornia
dial 1 for engish
dial 2 for ebonics
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