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Wednesday, August 29, 2007
Austin Bay :: Townhall.com Columnist
Gen. Petraeus' Pivotal Report
by Austin Bay
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There really is no particularly informative historical precedent for Gen. David Petraeus' upcoming public assessment of Iraq.

Perhaps we are entering new historical terrain, where the commanding general's pivotal strategic gambit is a media event.

And media event it is. With its certain long-term global import and short-term political impact, Petraeus' report meets a hustling television exec's primal requirement: drama.

When the spotlight strikes his face and he begins to speak, we will witness drama in large letters.

No one, however, should confuse the general's appearance with entertainment.

The quick commentators will dub his report a historical pivot. That will be true, but only in a narrow sense. Despite the sensationalist headlines and hyperbolic fretting, given the decades of terror and the centuries of political fossilization afflicting the Middle East, the trend lines in The War on Terror are astonishingly good.

Trends are the great truths behind pivotal moments, and Petraeus is aware of that. Since 9-11, America has made great strides in addressing at the fundamental level the social pathologies that seed Islamo-fascist terrorism. In short form it is this: The choice between tyrant and terrorist is no choice. Modernity requires a degree of social consensus and economic liberalization. Iraq is thus a radical experiment in modernity in a vital region afflicted by economic failure, tribal factiousness and oil-dollar powered feudalism.

Petraeus is aware of those positive trends, as well as the inevitable catastrophes that ultimately produce victory.

Petraeus' pivotal moment is the rare opportunity to correct what media analysts call "the dominant narrative."

That dominant narrative has been defeat. Defeat has been a useful narrative to that large percentage in the political class who are mere politicians, not statesmen.

Instantaneous and pervasive media have reshaped the political environment. Bill Clinton's "perpetual presidential campaign," waged from a White House war room, recognized this condition.

I recall visiting with an intelligence officer in the Pentagon during the Persian Gulf War in February 1991. He pointed to a television monitor tuned to CNN and quipped, "That's current intelligence." It was narrowly framed, poorly contextualized, emotionally charged and anecdotal intelligence, but his wisecrack was dead-on -- a live camera relaying pictures from the battlefield backed by breathless commentary is current intelligence. The Gulf War and Clinton's endless campaign preceded the Internet's expansion and video cell phones. Instant today is faster than 10 years ago.

Petraeus' report is a creature of this instantaneous and pervasive media. For better or worse, he is responding to the condition and using the condition.

War doesn't operate on media time or political calendars. Petraeus' report will address that fact. The Baghdad clock and the Washington clock run at different speeds. The Baghdad Clock is ponderously slow and painfully incremental. Why? Because what the Iraqi government does and does not do must be politically digestible in a nation where democratic politics is a brand new experience.

Washington's clock -- at least the one run by the likes of Sens. Carl Levin and Hillary Clinton -- is set to the 2008 election.

Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki disdains their myopia. At a news conference earlier this week, Maliki said: "There are American officials who consider Iraq as if it were one of their villages, for example Hillary Clinton and Carl Levin. They should come to their senses."

Petraeus will give all politicians an opportunity to come to their senses.

Style always counts. I am certain he will be honest, disciplined, sobering and judicious in his presentation.

As for substance, I'll wager he will ask for the antithesis of the instant: patience.

Instant experts will demand numbers, and odds are Petraeus will have mathematics and graphs. He may address semi-quantifiable factors like the number of trained and equipped Iraqi troops, the number of qualified Iraqi senior and mid-level military officers who can plan and lead their own operations, and the number and locale of police precincts judged competent and minimally corrupt.

But the gist of his message will be what military veterans call GUTINT -- gut intelligence. GUTINT says sticking with the effort in Iraq is crucial if we want a more peaceful and prosperous 21st century, for Iraqis, Americans and every one else on the planet.

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Austin Bay Austin Bay is author of three novels. His third novel, The Wrong Side of Brightness, was published by Putnam/Jove in June 2003. He has also co-authored four non-fiction books, to include A Quick and Dirty Guide to War: Third Edition (with James Dunnigan, Morrow, 1996).
 
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jerabaub
I have discussed issues with you on TH before. We have even agreed on some things. For what it is worth I believe you are reasonable and fair-minded. Obviously we disagree on some other things.

In your first post you used the term "reason", singular. From that I inferred that you were claiming WMD was the only motive offered by Bush for deposing Saddam. One other reason I made this inference is that there are many anti-war posters who claim outright that WMD was THE reason. Often I have probed such posters and become convinced that they make this claim because WMD is the issue where they feel Bush is most vulnerable to attack.

I have maintained a vigilant effort to try to reset the issue back to what was actually said prior to March of 2003. I too get caught up defending my side of the argument. An anti-war poster caught me last week with some info I truly believed but had either heard it wrong or it was reported wrong by my source.

I have corrected that part of my argument. I think we all get too concerned at times with winning the argument and the truth either gets muddled or lost in the process.

I hope you will review the things I've said and if you find they are true keep them in mind the next time you speak up in support of someone who has, like I was, been given incorrect information.

It is hard enough for our nation to pull together when we all have the same, truthful facts. Misinformation (on both sides) makes it impossible.

sjpatejak
Anne Coulter is a "polemicist". A person who writes political OPINION.

She is NOT an officer in the US Military who took an oath ON HIS PERSONAL HONOR to defend the country and was still on the payroll of the US Naval Reserve. Coulter writes her OPINIONS in the free media per her protected rights under the First Amendment. She was NOT testifying under oath before the US Senate about things she claimed to have personally witnessed, as Kerry did.

On her worst day Coulter has more legitimate reason and/or evidence for the 'charges' she makes against Bill Clinton than Kerry ever had for the outrageous accusations he made against his own 'band of brothers'. And Coulter, even if she was lying, would have enough intelligence to express her lie in her own original words instead of repeating communist propaganda verbatim.

Finally, the lowest buck private that peeled potatoes in 'Nam is worth twenty Bill Clintons.

Today we are certain that Kerry's words were false. Do you know for certain that Clinton didn't rape Juanita Broaderick? Do you know he didn't condone the untimely death of any of the 47 people on the infamous list?

I think Clinton DID rape Broaderick. I doubt that he ordered or condoned murder (and we both know he doesn't have the balls to do it himself), but this charge has not been debunked nearly as thoroughly as Kerry's testimony under oath has been.

Why do we get a strawman accusation from you instead of a defense of Kerry?

Wiseman
As I agreed with a previous poster that wmd issue was among the reasons cited by the administration for the invasion, I don't see any inconsistency in my remarks.

Even Bush recognizes Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11, and Saddam's connections with Al Qaida were peripheral at best.

I think advisors around Bush 43, a few of whom had served in Bush 41 administration, had always advocated removing Saddam. They failed in their efforts to convince Bush 41 to do this.

When 9/11 occurred, I believe this group seized upon this event, exploiting it, convincing Bush 43 that we need a draconian, radical solution to mideast Islamic fundamentalism that demands the creation of a "democracy" in a muslim land...to serve as a beacon for others in the region to emulate...the belief being that democracy would remove the factors that give rise to Islamic radicalism.

Given the trackrecord of democratic elections in Gaza, Lebanon, Egypt and even Iraq, it does not appear to be working...in the shorterm anyway. In addition, many 2nd and 3rd generation muslims in democratic Europe despise the tolerance, secularism and openness of such societies, and actually favor the imposition of shariah law there.

If democracy is ever to flourish within Islam, the thirst for it must emanate within muslims themselves. It cannot be imposed, especially by western nations.

useful idiots
I looked at Jackpine Savage's link. Evidently there was a KGB effort to stir up hatred for the US president. I imagine that would include calling the president a murderer and a rapist? It would also seem to include saying thing like: "If you don't hate [the president] and the people who labored to keep him in office, you don't love your country." or "I really think it's a question of his mental stability. He really could be a lunatic. I think it is a rational question for Americans to ask whether their president is insane." So is Ann Coulter a commie or just a freelance nut?

Saddam and 9/11
You're evidently right. I couldn't find any direct quote by Bush making a connection between Iraq and 9/11. I did find this though.

"If we're successful in Iraq...we will have struck a major blow right at the heart of the base, if you will, the geographic base of the terrorists who have had us under assault now for many years, but most especially on 9/11." VP Cheney on NBC's Meet the Press, 9/14/03

sheepdog
What proof is there that the democrats are "using the same playbook"? I think Bush is using the military in a much more political way. He trashed the ISG and found generals who would support the surge and fired the rest, only to come out and tell Americans that to criticize the war or me you are terrorist and traitors.

sheepdog
Did you notice this line from Jackpine's link?

"During the Vietnam War we spread vitriolic stories around the world, pretending that America's presidents sent Genghis Khan-style barbarian soldiers to Vietnam who raped at random, taped electrical wires to human genitals, cut off limbs, blew up bodies and razed entire villages."

Is this not virtually verbatim the "testimony" John F-ing Kerry gave to the Senate in 1971?

So there you have it. Kerry was, and probably still is, not only a useful idiot, but also a willing distributor of communist propaganda.

What a sap!

jerabaub and sjpatejak
The reasons "stated" by the Bush administration prior to asking Congress for approval to invade Iraq included Saddam's possession of WMD, his sponsorship of international terror, his refusal to disarm per the treaty that ended the Persian Gulf War, his refusal to comply with UN sanctions as evidenced by 17 UN Resolutions, his refusal to allow UN inspectors unfettered access to inspection sites, his refusal to respect the "No Fly Zones" as evidenced by over 200 SAM attacks on US and UK planes patrolling them, and the desire to establish a democracy in Iraq so it would not be a place where terrorists fleeing Aghanistan would find have or a place where terrorism would breed in the future.

Bush also said that Saddam was NOT an imminent threat to us but that he would become one if we didn't act.

Bush also noted that because Saddam had a recent history of invading his neighbors he must be disarmed.

Bush never claimed there was a Saddam-al Qaeda connection in his case before Congress or the American people. He also never said that Saddam had anything to do with 9/11.

The desire in the Bush camp to depose Saddam predates 9/11. It was made public in a radio interview at WJR in Detroit with Condi Rice about a month before the 2000 election. But before you judge Bush too harshly on this item you should consider that regime change in Iraq was the "resolved" position of the US Congress per a Congressional Resolution in 1998 (it cannot be considered official US policy because the Constitution reserves that authority to the Executive Branch, despite the manner in which you see Reid and Pelosi behaving today).

If you think he was wrong about WMD or any of the rest of it that is your opinion and your right to express it. You do not have the right to misrepresent what was said to promote your position on the war.

Jackpine Savage
I read the link..The democrats are using the same playbook that this guy used against us and unfortunatly it seems to be working. Thanks for the link it was a great read.

more on Useful Idiots
I saw this article a couple weeks back and have been wanting to share it. It says a lot about the anti-war idiots.

http://opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110010438

Chicken Liberal Says
THE SURGE IS FAILING!". Already, Fairy Reid, Martha Murtha, Mr. Theresa Kerry, Mr. Elizabeth Edwards and other Defeatocrats have their minds made up. Several Liberals who have been to Iraq recently say the difference is palpable. Gen. Petraeus could defeat Al-Qaeda in Iraq, cure cancer and drive a Prius. This will make no difference to Liberal Dimwits (did I just repeat myself) on Capitol Hill or on Townhall

part 2
And for the false argument that the petraeus report will be drawn up by the white house.

Well in case you're too stupid to realize this, the senate Requires the white house to prepare the report. It wasn't bush's idea, it was your beloved democrats in the senate! If bush didn't follow the law and prepare the report, he would be dragged across the coals for not following senate procedure. Of course I wouldn't be surprised if they set it up that way, just so bush was in a no-win situation. Kinda like the one the dems are in now. :op

If you don't like the message,
Kill the messenger. That's the new strategy of the defeatocrats.
They know that the only way they can possibly win in '08 is for us to fail miserably in Iraq.
And they will do all they can to bring about that defeat. The possibility of millions dead after we pull out is little consequence to them. It didn't bother them in the least that millions died after we left vietnam. John Kerry actually said that the Re-education camps, "weren't so bad". (I guess sobibor was just a summer camp, according to kerry)

All the straw man arguments like bush lied, no WMDs and so on mean absolutely nothing. No war in history has ever gone 100% for one side or another. We had stunning defeats in WW2, WW1, and even the civil war, yet through dogged determination, we eventually overcame those defeats and emerged victorious.

In a football game, if your team is down by 12 points at halftime, you don't pack up and sneak out of the stadium, you rally your team and go back out on the field and try to win.

The dems want to steal the troop's football, so they can't play the second half.

Regardless of whether you agree on the reasons for the war, or if we even should have gone in, we are there now, and we HAVE to be victorious.
We are fighting for our very survival here folks, get over yourselves and look at the big picture just one time.

Osama and his cronies are playing you libs like a violin, he knows you don't have the guts to stand up for your rights, (unless it's the rights of child rapists or illegal aliens)
He knows you are useful idiots dancing around as he pulls your strings by sending other useful idiots to blow up innocent iraqis.

To lilly
"It's equally amazing that a number of right-wing posters, who not only have never been to Iraq but apparently have never been to school either, are experts on American foreign policy in the Middle East."

I've been to Iraq twice, lilly. That doesn't make me a foreign policy expert.
I don't really believe that you are a foreign policy expert, either.
That doesn't change the fact that you have a right to hold and voice opinions on the matter. It just means that your opinion has no greater virtue than that of any random Townhall poster. Indeed, it may carry less in some instances.

I know it offends you that people dare to hold opinions that differ from yours, but that is democracy.

sjpatejak
The STATED justification for the invasion was what you cited, but the UNDERLYING rationale for the invasion was this grandiose vision by Bush and the neocons to reorder the mideast.

Even Austin Bay concedes Iraq is a radical experiment in modernity.

the point
"But the point of the invasion was to allow for a democratic Iraq"

No, the point of the invasion was to prevent Saddam Hussein from sharing his WMDs with his allies in Al Qaeda. Well, there were no WMDs, no alliance with Al Qaeda, and now no Saddam Hussein The other reasons: to establish a democratic Iraq, to prevent an Al Qaeda takeover, to prevent our dead from dying in vain, etc. came later.

Lupine
It's equally amazing that a number of right-wing posters, who not only have never been to Iraq but apparently have never been to school either, are experts on American foreign policy in the Middle East. All depends on what Rush Limbaugh said this morning.

Bush/Truth/Not
Bush has been softening the battlefield now for weeks with his own "dominant narrative" which is only a thinly-veiled version of the "freedom is on the march" mantra of two years ago. Petraeus' report has no doubt already been written. Who could possibly believe an administration that has suppressed truth and substituted PR fictions for political gain?

Gunny and Talli2long
But the point of the invasion was to allow for a democratic Iraq that would serve as a beacon for others in the mideast to emulate. That is at the core of the Bush doctrine, for what it is worth.

Given that the invasion has increased Islamic radicalism, and given that even moderate muslims are strongly opposed to the invasion, how does this invasion lessen the hostility of muslims to our nation, or, to the concept of democracy?

To the extent the invasion was done in order to bring about "democracy", it will probably result in muslims being even less hospitable to the idea.

Not that Islam and democracy are compatible anyway.

futurist liberals
It's amazing the number of Liberals who post here who have in all liklihood never been to Iraq, and yet can with the daring of a blind man walking in a minefield foretell its future. They are so invested in an American defeat that they frantically seize on any rumor that corresponds and resonates with that wish.

Know what is at stake
The president has stated numerous times that this war will be hard fought. The strength and resolve of the American people has grown weaker since WWII. The enemy that wants to kill us as in another 9-11 knows this. If we leave Iraq precipitously, it will be at our peril. The time has come to show your support for our brave men and women in uniform, go to http://www.moveamericaforward.com

Sept 3rd thru 15th a massive effort will be underway. What will you do to help?

Lolo2
Well, when you live in fantasy land like the libturds do, then whatever Petreus says wil not matter. For the lib lemmings, it'll always be "Bush lied, people died."

Speaking of that, check my blog for an analysis on Bubba's big adventure in Kosovo.

Bubba lied and people DIED!

jerubaub
"Whether intended or not, our invasion of Iraq has fueled Islamic extremism. Muslims around the world despise this invasion."

Just curious, what set them against us in the 70's when they started hijacking our airliners? Or when they beat that Navy diver to death? First liberals bleated that it was Lebanon that did it, then the Gulf, now it's Iraq?

I guess supplying the Mujahadeen with Stingers to fight the commies was not enough to make them love us huh?

Now
I see on various threads a whole lot of scrambling to make Crocker and Petreaus look like phonies. That is utter nonsense and stuck on stupid.

in response to jerabaub
"Whether intended or not, our invasion of Iraq has fueled Islamic extremism. Muslims around the world despise this invasion. "

In and of itelf, this argument goes nowhere. I'm fairly confident that NAMBLA and other unaffiliated individuals of like preferences despise our laws against statutory rape. However, their resentment is not sufficient reason to change the law.

There may be plenty of reasonable arguments against the campaign in Iraq: this is not one of them, in my view.

Disagree with Austin Bay on this.
Austin Bay says: "Since 9/11 America has made great strides..in addressing social pathologies that seed Islamo-fascist terror...the choice between tyrant and terrorist is no choice..."

Really?

What about the choice the Palestinians made in electing the terrorist group Hamas to power in Gaza and in parts of the Palestinian authority? What about the choice the Lebanese made in electing Hezbollah, or the choice Egyptians made in electing the Muslim Broherhood to positions of power?(it does not control the government but elections there have increased its power).

Bay is largely correct later on when he opines: "..Iraq is a radical experiment in modernity(democracy)in a vital region afflicted by economic failure, tribal factionalism and oil-dollar powered feudalism".

But that begs the question: Must we now go about the world sacrificing our bravest and looting our treasury so as to improve regions of the world afflicted by economic failure, etc, and if so, just how "conservative" is such a doctrine?

Since when does a supposed "conservative" president use our military as an instrument in a reckless and radical experiment to determine if Islam is capable of modernity?

Whether intended or not, our invasion of Iraq has fueled Islamic extremism. Muslims around the world despise this invasion.

The only thing that will satisfy
The only thing that will satisfy critics of the war is word of the insurgents' unilateral surrender.
The critics are tired of the war. They want to throw in the towel, make it all go away. As long as Americans stop dying, they could care less about the brown people who thought they could depend on us. See how Vietnam ended: we bailed, reneged on our promise of air and logistical support, and left the South Vietnamese to hang. How many of them died? Nobody knows... and in the anti-war crowd, nobody cared.

No new news.
The report will offer little that has not already been leaked or talked about. The basics are that we've had some quantifiable successes in reducing violence - primarily in areas where we allied and armed Sunni's who previously fought us. At the same time, the flight of refugees leaving Iraq, primarily minorities, has increased from 50,000 to 60,000 per month year over year, those leaving their homes internally and moving to areas controlled by their sects has increased from 50,000 to 100,000 per month, power in Baghdad has dropped to three to four hours per day as outlying regions are keeping the power for themselves and refusing to put it on the main grid for equal distribution, the south is increasingly acting to create an autonomous state, and our generals and some within the administration are now discussing the fact that security is the primary issue - and the democratic hopes that we had may need to be sacrificed for security.

In sum, the people have lost confidence in their governments ability to provide security, the minorities are fleeing, and the rest have divided themselves up into areas controlled by their sect with the intent to run their own lives - as opposed to waiting for Baghdad to perform.

We will continue the surge - but we cannot turn back the clock, nor is the surge persuading the Iraqi people that it can protect them.

Maliki will stagger on - but the issue will become increasingly political.


No new news.
The report will offer little that has not already been leaked or talked about. The basics are that we've had some quantifiable successes in reducing violence - primarily in areas where we allied and armed Sunni's who previously fought us. At the same time, the flight of refugees leaving Iraq, primarily minorities, has increased from 50,000 to 60,000 per month year over year, those leaving their homes internally and moving to areas controlled by their sects has increased from 50,000 to 100,000 per month, power in Baghdad has dropped to three to four hours per day as outlying regions are keeping the power for themselves and refusing to put it on the main grid for equal distribution, the south is increasingly acting to create an autonomous state, and our generals and some within the administration are now discussing the fact that security is the primary issue - and the democratic hopes that we had may need to be sacrificed for security.

In sum, the people have lost confidence in their governments ability to provide security, the minorities are fleeing, and the rest have divided themselves up into areas controlled by their sect with the intent to run their own lives - as opposed to waiting for Baghdad to perform.

We will continue the surge - but we cannot turn back the clock, nor is the surge persuading the Iraqi people that it can protect them.

Maliki will stagger on - but the issue will become increasingly political.


Warren

If you did not notice, most of the Democrat candidates are now saying things that show they will not withdraw from Iraq Feb 2.


Balanced, nuanced, sensible analysis
--
...as usual, Col. Bay.

What the hell are you doing on TownHall.com among these Republicrats and their "Liberal" counterparts in idiocy?



--
"One cannot wage war under present conditions without the support of public opinion, which is tremendously molded by the press and other forms of propaganda."

..-- General Douglas MacArthur


WAIT
Don't you mean the non-General Patreaus Report? Or, the White House Edited Version?
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