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Monday, May 25, 2009
Ashley Herzog :: Townhall.com Columnist
United in Hate
by Ashley Herzog
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If you’ve ever wondered why radical leftists—who supposedly care about women’s rights—feel compelled to justify Islam’s violent oppression of women, you should read United in Hate by Jamie Glazov.

Glazov does an excellent job of examining the love affair between leftists in the West and radical Muslims who treat women as “less worthy than cows and sheep,” as Palestinian writer Souad says in the book. While some liberals in the U.S. and Europe have no problem telling the truth about Islamic gender apartheid, others fanatically defend it.

Consider the issue of rape. Rape is common in Muslim countries, and often results in a death sentence—for the victim.

“In 2004, a sixteen-year old girl, Atefeh Rajabi, was hanged in a public square in Iran,” feminist writer Phyllis Chesler wrote in her book The Death of Feminism. “Her crime? Rajabi was charged with adultery—which probably means she was raped. Her rapist was not executed.” Rape victims are frequently stoned to death with the approval of Muslim courts, and it is estimated that 75 percent of female prisoners in Pakistan are behind bars because they were raped.

Therefore, it’s not surprising when Muslim immigrants import their rape-supportive cultures to the West: in 2001, Norwegian newspapers reported that two-thirds of rape suspects were Muslim men.

How did the Western apologists respond? Unni Wikan, a professor of social anthropology at the University of Oslo, said the victims had it coming for not veiling themselves from head to toe, as women in countries like Saudi Arabia are forced to do.

“Norwegian women must take their share of responsibility for these rapes,” Wikan said. “Women must realize that we live in a multicultural society and adapt themselves to it.” (Wikan echoed Danish Muslim leader Shahid Mehdi, who said women who don’t veil themselves are “asking for rape.”)

The radical left also lies about the nature of female genital mutilation (FGM), a savage practice in which a little girl has her labia and clitoris cut out without anesthetics in order to keep her from enjoying sex. In 2007, when David Horowitz attempted to raise the issue of FGM during a speech at Emory University, angry protestors chanted “that’s not Islam!”

Really? Maybe they should explain why Sheikh Muhammed Sayyid Tantawi, “the highest spiritual authority for nearly a billion Sunni Muslims,” according to the BBC, defends FGM, calling it “a laudable practice.”

Women who have been subjected to FGM also confirm its religious roots. Ayaan Hirsi Ali, a Somali ex-Muslim and women’s rights activist, said the practice is “justified in the name of Islam.” In 2000, a brave Somali girl named Kadra secretly taped Norwegian Muslim imams encouraging their followers to practice FGM. For this, she was brutally attacked by a group of Muslim men, who broke several of her ribs.

The radical left’s response to FGM is to lecture us on “cultural sensitivity.” In a finger-wagging article in the Northwestern University Journal of International Human Rights, Rachelle Cassman said efforts to stop FGM must not include “the imposition of Western beliefs on African cultures.” She reminded readers that “all cultures are equally valid.”

Then there’s the fact that many Muslims approve of wife-beating. As Phyllis Chesler notes, “The Pakistan Institute of Medical Sciences has determined that over ninety percent of Pakistani wives have been struck, beaten, or abused sexually — for offenses on the order of cooking an unsatisfactory meal or failing to give birth to a male child.” (Domestic violence has the approval of Muslim leaders, such as Spanish Muslim cleric Mohamed Kamal Mustafa, whose book Women in Islam gave men specific instructions for hitting their wives.)

A 2002 poll taken by the Palestinian Center for Public Opinion found that most Palestinians support wife-beating, and 57 percent agreed that “a man has the right to beat up his wife if she underestimates his manhood.” Souad recalls of her childhood in Palestine, “It was the law of men. The girls and women were certainly beaten every day in the other houses, too. You could hear the crying.”

Given this uncomfortable truth, the apologists have invented an interesting excuse: It’s the Jews’ fault. “Leftist feminists admit that Palestinian men are abusive, but argue they are so only because of the humiliation they feel under Israeli ‘occupation,’” Glazov writes. “As feminist author Jan Goodwin argues…if only American and Israeli oppression stopped, Palestinian men would no longer feel a need to beat their wives.”

No matter what the evidence, people who tell the truth about radical Muslims’ abuse of women are accused of “racism,” “Islamophobia,” and my personal favorite, “cultural imperialism.” (I know—how dare I think that American culture is superior to cultures that hang rape victims?)

Why? As the title of Glazov’s book suggests, the radical left is united in hate—which includes a hatred of their own culture, and a fanatical need to excuse the horrific practices of others.

For anyone who wants to learn more about this subject, I suggest reading United in Hate and visiting http://www.TerrorismAwareness.org, which has resources on Islam’s violent oppression of women.

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Islamic Rape Rooms in Iraq

Many Americans have heard about the 'Rape Rooms' in Iraq.

The details are to ghastly to describe here at TH, this is as graphic as allowed.

Women and girls, reportedly as young as 9 years old, were strapped down and repeatedly raped and tortured any way the 'Islamic Animals' desired, by as many 'Brutal Men' as available.

Many of their families were forced to watch.

When the 'Islamic Animals' had enough of the female, many were fed feet first into a wood chipper while they were still alive.

The next female victim and their families would be brought in.

This was Genocide of Iraqi Islamic females.

Liberals and Democrats thought it was 'WRONG' to stop this.

Islamic Holy Water? ? ?

"At first glance, Bably Akter looks like any other nine-year-old Bangladeshi girl, dressed in a brightly coloured pink and turquoise skirt and top trimmed with silver sequins.

A matching headband conceals her left ear, badly deformed and the only obvious sign she is the victim of an acid attack, a practice rampant in the impoverished country, used mainly in domestic disputes and against women and children."

Using acid on women and little girls is a common technique used by Islamic men.

Why aren't Liberal Women Protesting?

"A Saudi-Arabian woman who was convicted of having been gang-raped by 7 men.

Although she is said to have been convicted in the anti-women Islamic Shari'a court for being alone with a man (her ex-boyfriend) who is not related to her (she and her ex were in a mall loo0king at photos), the misogynistic attitude of Muslims for all women has become extremely pronounced with this case.

She was originally sentenced to 90 lashes with a whip and 6 months in prison.

Then, to add additional insult to injury, the judge assigned to the case added 110 lashes to the woman's sentence.

The reason? She had to audacity to appeal the original ruling. Suffice it to say — her appeal was denied and she has been given a potential death sentence for challenging the male Muslim judge.

Still most leftists — and especially leftist feminists — remain silent."

Honor Killings -> Islamic Tradition

Honor Killings of females all over the world and happening now in America.

Islamists conduct most of these 'Honor Killings'.

Where they can conduct the 'Honor Killings' in public, the time honored way of these animals is to bury the female waist deep in a hole and then stone them to death.

Stoning to death is a slow, brutal, ghastly death.

These women and girls have committed such ghastly acts as NOT having meals served on time.

These women and girls have committed such ghastly acts as not wearing Burkhas or veiling their faces properly.

I worked for a while in an Islamic country where I saw women trying to eat ice cream cones with veils on, being careful not to show their face.

Street vendors work the streets with vegetables and so forth and women let down baskets to get their purchases, if no male is available to escort them to the street.

These women face 'stoning to death' if they do not use hand signals to indicate their purchase because they are not allowed to speak to any man who is not family.

We can expect more women in America to suffer 'Honor Killings'.

Liberals in America chant 'Yes We Can'.

Islamic Rapes a Tradition

Under Islamic law, if a woman is raped and reports it, she must have at least four Muslim males to corroborate her rape.

If she cannot produce four male Muslims to corroborate the rape, she is usually either 'Stoned to Death', 'Beheaded' or severely whipped and sent to prison.

Even if she proves and corroborates the rape, she is held equally responsible for the rape and would receive the same punishment as the rapist.

For some reason, there is not many rapes reported in Islamic countries.

Coming soon to America.

Ret Geek: Coming soon to America???

It's ALREADY HERE... but the media barely acknowledges it.


Wow
It's hard to even comment without saying how stupid liberals are. This kind of liberal thinking is so absurd and abnormal and unbelievable. This is what they learn at American Universities? I bet all these feminists have a free tibet shirt and act as some sort of human rights advocates in that limited arena.

Conservatives and making distinctions
Ms. Herzon and many other conservatives fail to make important distinctions between the sort of 'leftists' who defend Islamist violence against women and 'liberals,' who do not. Ms. Herzog and her source can find some fanatical academics and intellectuals who support Islamist practices, but I'm sure they cannot find liberals who do so. What liberal members of the US Congress support honor killings, for instance? And precisely which liberal media pundits have no problem with female genital mutiliation? Come on, conservatives, name them!

My point is that conservatives assume, because they don't know any better, that the most disgusting leftists out there are no different from liberals. In fact, conservatives today see no difference between the two.

So, I challenge Ms. Herzog to come up with a liberal, such as a liberal Supreme Court justice, who supports honor killings. Didn't think so.

Doug Giles wrote about Muzzammil

Hassan who decapitated his wife, Aasiya Z. Hassan.

"If Your Wife Gives You Any Smack Then . . . Cut Her Head Off? What The . . . ?"

http://townhall.com/columnists/DougGiles/2009/02/22/if_your _wife_gives_you_any_smack_then____cut_her_head_off__what_th e____

"In his ongoing efforts to portray Muslims as chummy neighbors, Muzzammil Hassan, founder of Bridges TV, cut his wife’s head off last week when Muzzy found out she was going to ditch him. What’s that, you say?

"This is the first you’ve heard of the 2/12/2009 beheading in Buffalo in which a Muslim TV exec chopped his wife’s noggin off in one of their office suites? Oh, I’m sorry. I assumed that you’d already heard about it—but then I just recalled that ABC, NBC, CBS, and NPR haven’t said a word about it since it happened. Oops. My bad."



Cont...



Gestell
I said in the column that plenty of liberals are honest about Islam's treatment of women. It's mostly the radical left--the whackjob college professors; the losers who hate America more than they could ever hate gender apartheid--who defend it.


Gestell: Horsefeathers!!!

"Ms. Herzog and her source can find some fanatical academics and intellectuals who support Islamist practices, but I'm sure they cannot find liberals who do so."

WHAT? That makes no sense!

Herzog did SAY...

"While some liberals in the U.S. and Europe have no problem telling the truth about Islamic gender apartheid

"In 2007, when David Horowitz attempted to raise the issue of FGM during a speech at Emory University, angry protestors chanted 'that’s not Islam!'

"In a finger-wagging article in the Northwestern University Journal of International Human Rights, Rachelle Cassman said efforts to stop FGM must not include 'the imposition of Western beliefs on African cultures.' She reminded readers that 'all cultures are equally valid.'”

I'm sure Ms. Herzog doesn't give a hoot about your challenge, but if your so sure you're right then YOU come up with some liberal who has actually made an issue about it.

Right! Didn't think so.

As Ret Geek asked... "Why aren't Liberal Women Protesting?"

The Biggest Outrage

Is the blaming of the victim and the telling Swedish women that they have to bear some of the blame for being raped by an immigrant.

Good grief! If Swedish man was robbed by a Muslim immigrant, no one would say, "if he had only kept his wealth hidden by a veil, he would not have been robbed."

I expect immigrants to a country to assimilate.


The fact that some on the Left refuse to acknowledge the violence against women speaks of their own hypocrisy.

Ashley: Excellent column. However,

you will notice our intellectually limited liberals, Gestell and shorts right off the bat, who are clueless and have nothing of worth to contribute.



Deny,Deny,Deny
When faced with the truth about Islam and other radicals,why do the liberals deny it? They are living in a parallel universe as far as facing the truth about our enemies.

The left who support Dear Leader will be the first to feel the wrath of Sharia Law when it comes to city near them. They live loose lives and see no sin in anything they do.

Many do not believe in a Higher Power,so I suppose they can convert to Islam and save their heads,but not their souls.

Liberals Allow Islamic School

Islamic Academy of Virginia, Richmond, VA

Fairfax County head of the Board of Supervisors Gerry Connolly (Democrat), approved the Islamic School on Fairfax County owned ground, along with a unanimous vote of the Democrat controlled School Board.

Gerry Conolly was elected Congressman, 11th Congressional District.

"I bring a passion for progressive values, and an ethic of getting things done. I want to bring that same ethic -- the expectation that government will work for its citizens -- to the United States Congress."

-- Gerry Connolly

Text books at this Islamic school (on government owned property) include:
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The authors of a 12th-grade text on Quranic interpretation state that apostates (those who convert from Islam), adulterers and people who murder Muslims can be permissibly killed.

The authors of a 12th-grade text on monotheism write that "(m)ajor polytheism makes blood and wealth permissible," meaning that a Muslim can take with impunity the life and property of someone believed guilty of polytheism. According to the panel, the strict Saudi interpretation of polytheism includes Shiite and Sufi Muslims as well as Christians, Jews, Hindus and Buddhists.

A social studies text offers the view that Jews were responsible for the split between Sunni and Shiite Muslims: "The cause of the discord: The Jews conspired against Islam and its people. A sly, wicked person who sinfully and deceitfully professed Islam infiltrated (the Muslims)."

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There seems to be NO 'Separation of Church and State' with 'Progressive Democrats' towards any group except Christians?

Barack Obama sends $90 million to HAMAS

HAMAS is an acronym for Harakat al-Muqawammah al-Islammiyya.

It means Islamic Resistance Movement.

The terrorist group is an outgrowth of the Muslim Brotherhood - the same organization that has spawned most fundamentalist Islamic hate groups.

The Muslim Brotherhood is a Sunni, Salafist, Islamist, religious movement that originated in Egypt.

It seeks the forced imposition of fundamentalist Muslim social, moral, legal, religious, and political mandates on the world.


Sharia Law Means Death to Women

Barack Obama appoints a legal adviser who would not have a problem with Sharia law.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

"It is a case of happy timing.
Barack Obama’s nominee as Legal Adviser of the State Department, Harold Koh, has said that he has no objection to Islamic Sharia law being applied “in an appropriate case” in the United States.

And at the same time, the world is witness to a veritable laboratory experiment of what it means to apply Sharia in a place where it previously had not been in effect.

...Mulla Nazeer Ahmad, a leader of the Taliban jihadists, has declared: “Our Jihad is a global Jihad and we aim to...establish Sharia all over the world.”

And Taliban spokesman Muslim Khan told CNN recently that the Taliban hoped ultimately to spread its strict Sharia adherence “even in America.” Obtaining that goal will make their happiness complete."

by Robert Spencer
05/06/2009
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=31731



Anne and Rowly et al

Where was the Liberal outrage when Barack Obama placed Harold Koh as legal adviser to the State Department - Koh advocates Sharia law could be practiced "Under Certain Conditions" in the United States.

Barack Obama a "Constitutional Lawyer" knows that isn't constitutional.

When the POTUS hates America as much as our enemies do, there are rough days ahead.

The Real Islam

The real Islam is the Islam that abuses women, allows men to beat their wives, imposes penalty tax on religious minorities, wants to dominate the world by subduing all non-Muslims, calls for Jihad, and killing of non-believers until Islam becomes the only dominant religion of the World.

Obama says there are "Moderate Taliban"

Obama's Moderate Taliban

"Fear of death stalks women in Swat," from Dawn, March 7

PESHAWAR: Terrified, locked up at home and courting death if they go out alone, women oppressed by extremists in Swat have nothing to celebrate on International Women’s Day.

Nearly 100 years after the annual day was created to mark the struggle for equal rights for half the world’s population, most women in Swat look blank and go silent when asked about gender rights and discrimination.

They’re too frightened to speak in public. They can only leave the confines of their homes accompanied by a male relative, their bodies hidden in veils.

‘How can I tell you my name, are you crazy? I was told not to give my name to anyone because the Taliban could hurt me,’ one girl in the ninth grade told AFP by telephone from the former ski resort.

The girl’s dreams of becoming a doctor are over. She worries the Taliban will stop her finishing school, regardless of her parents’ support.

‘My mother told me I can do anything, but my inner soul is shattered.’

‘Tell me if you stop women getting an education where will a sick woman go? Do you want her to go to a male doctor? I was told that education is compulsory for every man and woman in Islam but the Taliban destroyed our schools.’

Militants have destroyed 191 schools in the valley, 122 of them for girls, leaving 62,000 pupils with nowhere to study, local officials say.

Go ahead, search! You'll find little

coverage...

"Honor killings: When the ancient and the modern collide"

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2008/01/23 /cstillwell.DTL

"Throughout the United States, Canada, and Europe, young Muslim women are being targeted for violence. Lest it be thought hate crimes are to blame, it is, in fact, their own relatives who are the perpetrators. So-called honor killings, whereby a Muslim male family member, typically the father, murders his daughter in order to defend the family's honor, is a growing problem.

"While statistics are notoriously hard to come by due to the private nature of such crimes and the fact that very few are reported, the United Nations Population Fund approximates that as many as 5,000 women are murdered in this manner each year worldwide. Undoubtedly that's a low estimate, as reports from Turkey, Jordan, Pakistan and the Palestinian territories, among other locales, are filtering in at an alarming rate. Add to the list Germany, Sweden, other parts of Europe, the United Kingdom, Canada, and the United States, and it's clear that young Muslim women in the West are becoming increasingly vulnerable.... Cont.





Ret Geek: "Moderate Taliban?"

Obama is liar or an idiot! There is no such thing as a "Moderate Taliban."


Muslims
I read yesterday and don't remember where...that 60% of the babies born in England last year were Muslim. It's just a matter of time......

Moderate Taliban
Moderate taliban are the one's that are out of ammo.

patches: That was great! "out of ammo."

Excellent! LOL


Rowly et al

The last census showed 9.3 million Arabs in America.

How many are Muslim?? Plus add Farrakhan and the black Muslims??

The flip side of "United in Hate"

is "United in Abject Ignorance and Stupidity" as is demonstrated by Gestell and shorts here on TH, and liberal women (and men) everywhere!


Retired Geek / Anne
I would be interested to know where the bulk of the bailout money went. My first bet would be to HIS Muslim friends.I have seen nor heard of any 'shovel ready ' projects in operation. No one knows where the money went.

Ashley Herzog...Thank You
A very well-written and informative article. I suppose there will be the usual leftist commenters reacting to even this eye-opening expose’ with the usual amount of Islamic support, Christian-bashing, and self-hatred you describe.

Geek - 2 Points
"Where was the Liberal outrage when Barack Obama placed Harold Koh as legal adviser to the State Department - Koh advocates Sharia law could be practiced "Under Certain Conditions" in the United States.

Barack Obama a "Constitutional Lawyer" knows that isn't constitutional."


I agree that it is unconstitutional, but #1 the State of Minnesota currently offer sharia financing to Muslims for home purchases; and #2 the AIG bailout funds have gone to a sharia financing arm of the insurance company.

Just a couple of examples illustrating how Islam is getting preferential treatment here in the US now.

'Imadinnerjacket' & His Plans For Israel
The 12th Imam: Why Is This Especially Important Now?
While Christians look for Jesus’ 2nd coming, the Jews await the Messiah and Muslims await the 12th Imam. However, of the three, Allah’s designated Mahdi is the only one who demands a violent path to conquer the world. Mr. Ahmadinejad, and his cabinet, say they have a ‘signed contract’ with al Mahdi in which they pledge themselves to his work. What does this work involve? In light of concerns over Iran’s nuclear capabilities, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has reportedly stated Israel should be wiped off the map. He spoke to the United Nations in September ’05. During that speech he claims to have been in an aura of light and felt a change in the atmosphere during which time no one present could blink their eyes. Iran’s PM is also said to have spoken in apocalyptic terms and seems to relish conflict with the West whom he calls the Great Satan. This is while he proclaims he must prepare the world for the coming Mahdi by way of a world totally under Muslim control. He is working hard to bring about the world-wide horrors that must be in place for their al Mahdi to bring peace.

This notion and goal, along with a violent hatred of infidels, America and Israel reminds us of Biblical prophecies of the coming anti-Christ and the pledges of millions to a deceiving False Messiah who will claim to bring peace. Could this 12th Imam Mahdi and his servant Ahmadinejad spark the last days of the coming true Savior?

Sharia justice sounds like torture to me
Where are all the loud voices against torture. Sharia law sounds significantly more painful than a little water boarding. If not the feminists, the left, or the liberals, where is the outrage from the anti-torture advocates? Are they afraid, ignorant, or just too politically correct to chastise their Islam mascots? President Obama needs to speak out against this inhumane cultural legal system. Sharia justice isn't even considered "enhanced" measures -- they are the Islamic norm.

Cowardice
The only excuse I can come up with for the leftist defense of these horrible Islamic practices is pure cowardice. While some may truly defend such out of a sense of "cultural validity or equality", I think many are afraid of Muslim retaliation if they protest.

I think we had the same problem with the Soviets during the Cold War. While many leftists may really have supported Communism, I think many wanted to appease the Russians out of fear of nuclear war. So today many think we can appease the Muslims and hope they will go away and leave us alone. Ask Neville Chamberlain how appeasement worked out.

It is easy to attack those who won't kill you. Christians being basically peaceful are an easy target these days. When will the leftists learn?

multicultural idiocy

Anyone who says all cultures are equal are either idiots are liars. Islamonuts are not the only barbaric cultures the world has seen. Google the funeral pyre practices of some Hindu sects. Lets just say a woman better hope and pray her husband outlived her.

Liberals don't share American Values

American values include Freedom, Liberty, and pursuit of happiness.

Liberals oppose the freedom of parents to choose a what school their children go to. They oppose the freedom to decide what retirement plan works best for you. They oppose the freedom to choose the healthcare plan the is best for you. They oppose the freedom to own and carry a firearm. They oppose the freedom to pray in public. They want to dictate where and when people can pray. In fact the only time Liberals support the freedom of choice is when it involves the killing of unborn babies.

Those Muslim
rapists are the scum of the earth. I'm not sure that radical leftists and man hating feminests are any better.

United in Hate
"Norwegian women should remember that they live in a multicultural society and adapt their behaviour accordingly".

This is the sort of stupidity that is frequently spouted by the Left in the UK, and is doubtless espoused by the ACLU and other leftist organisations in the US. This leads me to ask why is it that the indigenous population has to bear this in mind the muslim immigrant population MUST be allowed to continue these barbaric customs as if hey were still in their country of origin?

If things continue in this vein then there will be no need for terrorist activity, because the mere threat of it and the repeated complaint that Western Countries are being unfair and biased will be sufficient for those Governments to surrender on one point after another, thus achieving Islamic domination and a world wide khalifate.

To oppose freedom of movement around the world would be wrong, but if you move to another country or culture you must respect the host country's Laws and Traditions and Integrate. In the UK we have allowed Muslims to build Mosques in order to practice their religion and preachers of hate have taken over many of them and we now have a problem with home grown terrorists. Our Government allowed this and often seem to act to protect them. Try building a Christian Church in Saudi Arabia or any other Islamic Country.

ALL western governments need to unite against this, not only to protect our respective ways of life but also for the sake of any girl or woman in our countries.

True Feminism
Keep it coming, Ashley. I applaud your discernment, honesty, and courage. I was blessed to have my maternal grandmother and her mother, one of my great-grandmothers, live with us--my otherwise dysfunctional natal family. My great-grandmother and her all five of her sisters were the purest of feminists. All six of them went to college in an era (no pun intended) when most men did not. Indeed, one of her sisters, great-Aunt Stella Aiken, went on to law school, and became the first female judge in the Southeast. To a woman, they all were highly intelligent and educated, and eminently feminine wives and mothers, and insisted on being addressed by feminine-specific titles, pronouns, and adjectives: For intsnce, Aunt Stella demanded that she be addressed as "Judgess Aiken," taking great pride in her femininity, her womanhood, along with her professional position.

It amazes me how women, today, who claim to be feminists, who even claim that women are superior to men--a fault they have assumed from misled, over-macho men--prefer to be addressed by male-specific terminology. One would think that, if they are indeed proud to be women, some of them even thinking themselves to be superior, they would WANT to be called "actresses," as opposed to "actors," but NO. Why? Because they are of such a victim mentality that they want to actually BE what they perceive to be their oppressors.

Bravo, Ashley, for being a truly strong and feminine lady, to wit, a real feminist.

Culture VS. Culture
It is interesting that this discussion is coming out now. We have seen what happens when Islamic groups take over a country, or even a part of a country. Take the Palestinians for example. When Israel was in charge of Bethlehem the city was alive with tourists and pilgrims from all over the world. When the palestinians took over the whole area around Bethlehem became a dead zone. Look at Gaza. When Israel was in charge there were greenhouses, farms, life all over. When the Palestinians took over they tore down the greenhouses, the farms were closed, and now the life of the land is no more. This is because if the people are wealthy Hamas won't get any recruits. The whole culture of the Palestinians is a culture of death. Radical Islam Is a culture of death. When that is the case rape, beatings, and any other life-giving activity is not allowed to come forth. There can be no joy, no enjoyment, or satisfaction in life because in a culture of death, life, true life, just can't happen.

".... adapt themselves...."
(quote) Norwegian women must take their share of responsibility for these rapes,” Wikan said. “Women must realize that we live in a multicultural society and adapt themselves to it.” (end quote)

Allah knows that when you leave your own country, you should not have to adjust to the new host country's ways. Allah forbid!!!!

Well done, Ashley
As we all know, modern women's lib (NOW) has little to do with liberty - it is about control - thought control, suppression of dissent, and uniformity of opinion on women's issues.

As demonstrated by several public tongue-lashings and attacks of popular, beautiful, and conservative American women of late, they are sometimes no better advocates for women then their Islamic counterparts.

Islam Is Evil
Let's state it very bluntly: Islam is an evil religion that should be extinguished from the earth. Ann Coulter had it right when she said after the 9/11 attacks: "Kill all the (Islam fanatical) leaders and convert the rest to Christianity."

One of the major problems of liberalism is those people who practice it are unable to recognize evil. Political correctness has destroyed their judgment and their commonsense. Their ideology has rendered them fools and prey for the many totalitarians that still lurk in the shadows of our world.

A very short Fairy Tale
Once upon a time in a country not too long ago, there were millions of once conservative Christians who were the village idiots. They bought the liberal lies of the ruling elite and turned on their own brothers and sisters who didn't.
In another land lived a Muslim Monster.
Now the liberal elite who wanted to remain in power, stoked and fed the Muslim Monster from the East. They told him that he was a good boy, that he was peaceful and honorable. The village idiot christians sat, nodded in affirmation and welcomed the Muslim Monster into the country. The Muslim Monster came in, went to work, became a taxpayer and smiled.

As time went by, the liberals and the christian idiots continued to feed and stroke the Big Muslim Monster until one day the Big Muslim Monster, who was just biding his time, stood up and crushed them all.

The end.


Superb Article
If we need further proof of liberal hatred and evilness, and the validity of this author's essay, just look at the liberal posts here in response to the article. They rationalize and explain away Islam just as she says they do.

It is time that we stop scraching our heads and trying to understand these liberal devils. What does it matter why their minds are so twisted? We must accept the truth that they hate America, our Anglo-American traditions of freedom and individual values, and that they are wicked and despicable. Above all we must recognize the threat they pose to our security and freedoms now that they are in total power of the country.

We must not be deceived by their eloquent, but false, assurances of their love for the country and our constitution, all the while moving to undermine America and put us in chains. Do not be seduced by sweet words coming from expensive, tailor made, taxpayer financed suits, hypocrisy and lies dripping from their mouths.

Instead we must do what millions of clear thinking Americans have been doing since November: preparing for the civil discord that must come with the collapse of our economy and as the communists move to fill the vacuum with tyranny. The day will come when even the brain dead moronic mouth-breathing retards who opted for collectivism wake up and see that there will only be two choices: don the yoke of communist enslavement, or rise up to fight it and eliminate and in the end treat these leftist scum like we would rabid dogs, an apt metaphor for liberals.



Gestell's mindset at work
And his response to the article is to defend himself.

Blind Libs
Leftists so love playing their little head and word games because, they are, in general, too blind, foolish, egotistical warped or whatever to believe that the sort of regime discussed could ever come here or affect them in any way. They obviously haven't read enough history.

Just a Thought!
I'm not sure this is true, but it just a thought, I am quite aware that the Bible speaks of the coming Anti-Christ and his one world relegion. Could it be that muslim is that relegion? I ask because all Christians will be taken out and only non-believers will be left behind and they will believe that the anit-Christ is undefeatable. Plus he will sign a peace treaty with Isreal for a seven year period.

Reading and hearing and studing all of the world enents that are happening now makes one wonder.

It's just a thought. What do you think?

The lefty feminists
are not "Feminists" - they are radical leftists who hide under "feminism". They support abortion on demand and have no qualms about sex gender abortions. They hate Israel, a country with western values that has women in the military, in cabinet posts and in the courts because they hate American/western values. They are all about hate. Period. If I were to psychoanalze these women, I would not even know where to begin!

Islamic Approved Sex and Women

Mohammed (51) married his favorite wife Aisha at 6. The marriage was consummated when he was 54 and she was 9.

Muslim men can marry anyone, up to 4 wives. Muslim women must ONLY marry Muslim men (4:3)
thereby ensuring Islam does not weaken.

Marriage AND divorce to pre-pubescent girls (not yet having 1st menstruation) is OK. (Koran 65:4)

Sex Slaves (concubines) were, and are today, legal in Islam (Koran 4:23-24).

Domestic Violence is OK, not husband beating, but only wife beating and sex slave beating,
(Koran 4:34).

To prove rape in Islamic law or Sharia law, Muslim females need four male Muslim witnesses in good standing (Koran 24:13).
Note: non-Muslims under Sharia (Islamic) law can't even accuse Muslims of any crimes.

Islamic heaven is an unlimited whorehouse of regenerating virgins (Koran 37:40-48, 44:51-55, 52:17-20, 55:56-58, 70-77, 56:7-40, and 78:31).

Islamic heaven also allows sodomy of young boys (Koran 52:24, 56:17, and 76:19).


THE TRIBULATION
MUSICMAN
That time is caled the Tribulation--3 1/2 years of world wide peace and then the sh-t hits the fan--3 1/2 years of complete utter chaos, unlike the world has ever seen. It was once thought that during this time we would be at war with China just because of their numbers. But I think the Chinese could even be outmatched by the Muslims.

You said this:
"I'm not sure this is true, but it just a thought, I am quite aware that the Bible speaks of the coming Anti-Christ and his one world relegion. Could it be that muslim is that relegion? I ask because all Christians will be taken out and only non-believers will be left behind and they will believe that the anit-Christ is undefeatable. Plus he will sign a peace treaty with Isreal for a seven year period."

We have the Christian Right and the Christian Left:
First the Christian Right:
GROUP 1---Your ideas are
what many Christians believe about the end times, with a slight variation that Christians will be "raptured" before the 7 year period and some think that Christians will have to go through it with everyone else.

GROUP 2:Then there are those on the Christian Right who think Christians will prevail and will bring about a Godly government which will force people to do what is right and punish those who don't.

The truly Christian Left that I know of are a group called Antipas Ministries. They really believe AND ARE FEARFUL of the second group of the Christian Right will prevail and rule the world with an iron fist by making unholy alliances with those in government.

As for me, I don't see us ever turning back to any Biblical principles, Most so-called Christians will sell out. The rest of us will leave the earth--one way or another--just like you said.


Where are the Liberal Women and Men?

Where are the Liberal Women and Men who say they are for 'Human Rights'?

Ashley Herzog is standing up and several other Conservative Women and Men against these atrocities.

Liberals can only be counted on to help America's enemies - Liberals 'Hate America' as much as our enemies 'Hate America'.


Could Barack Obama

Could Barack Obama be the 'Evil' replica of John the Baptist?

Preparing the way for the Anti-Christ?

Ret Geek #54: BINGO!
.

I believe that...
... the clitorectomy evil was orginally an African practice picked up by Islam in the area.
Still, it would be telling to see how many column inches of claptrap liberal writers have spun about the "danger" of American Christian fundamentalists over the years, compared to how much they're written condemning Islam's global mistreatment of women.

(Of course, it would be even better if this thread wasn't largely Anne and Retired Geek talking to themselves.)

Musicman
"It's just a thought. What do you think? "

Consider this little nugget from Rev 20:4


Also I saw the souls of those who had been BEHEADED for their testimony to Jesus and for the word of God...
RSV



RW In MI:
You are jobless in Muslim Michigan. You have no standing here.

Retired Geek re: Sharia Law
Sharia law is already practiced in Minnesota. Caribou Coffee is a Muslim entity and their employees work under sharia law. Don't let their snazzy packaging fool you.

A Thought...
What if a Muslim raped a radical feminist?
Would that be OK? Does Islam trump feminism?

gender equality
European, European descent people and those who have mainstreamed into such cultures have the least sexist and most gender equality (different but equal) cultures anywhere. Further, the so-called "white" culture has the longest history of gender equality of any, and has always been relatively less sexist than any other culture.
In fact, our gender equality (different but equal) is our premier gift to humanity and comes from our ancient beliefs including the gullgubbene--the image of the loving twin brother and sister duel god of pre-christian Northern Europe. Theis native belief system combined with Catholic to eventually become Protestant (and more humanist Catholic) and especially the rooted beliefs of America's founders from which we grew our culture.
There is no superiority since anyone from anywhere can take whatever they want from whereever they want to believe. There are millions of non-whites who practice gender equality and it is free for all. Some identification might be in order of its origin among enlightened folk, but is not demanded.

WESTERN CULTURE IS SUPERIOR

.....History verifies this ...

.....While Europeans were creating the Sistine Chapel, composing great symphonies and ballets much of the rest of the world's peoples were eating grubs and practicing bodily mutilations ...

.....Liberals have created this "White Guilt Syndrome" which is supposed to make all CAUCASIANS ashamed of their roots and their success ...we are supposed to bow to less advanced cultures and accept them as equal to our own ...or in some cases morally superior ...

.....I refuse to submit to this nonsense ...I am proud of my CAUCASIAN roots and all of the accomplishments of WESTERN CULTURE and I neither bow nor submit to any other .....COLOSSUS

dressed for rape
No matter how a female is dressed in the U.S. it cannot be used against her in a rape case.Ask any feminists.Now and that ilk are p.poor excuses for woman

Convicted for being Raped?

"A Saudi-Arabian woman who was convicted of having been gang-raped by 7 men.

Although she is said to have been convicted in the anti-women Islamic Shari'a court for being alone with a man (her ex-boyfriend) who is not related to her (she and her ex were in a mall loo0king at photos), the misogynistic attitude of Muslims for all women has become extremely pronounced with this case.

She was originally sentenced to 90 lashes with a whip and 6 months in prison.

Then, to add additional insult to injury, the judge assigned to the case added 110 lashes to the woman's sentence.

The reason? She had to audacity to appeal the original ruling. Suffice it to say — her appeal was denied and she has been given a potential death sentence for challenging the male Muslim judge. Still most leftists — and especially leftist feminists — remain silent."

LouLouise et al

Liberal women who think everything should be decided by negotiation, should have their opportunity.

Lock them in a jail cell with a 250 lb serial rapist and let them 'Negotiate the Night Away'.

obama is the "antichrist' . . .
the "smooth talker", from the middle east, with a muslim background, has the "cult of personality" status like his brethren, hitler, stalin, kim-il-jung, pol pot, lenin (NOT the beatle), mao ze dong and other "illustrious types".
Fasten your seatbelts, it's going to be a bumpy "ride".

But
These are the tolerant "Peace" loving members of Islam, right? Islam is a relgion of peace we are told, over and over by liberal apologists for all the brutality they are too cowardly to oppose. Better to make excuses for it and blame those who confront their demons than incite the wrath of Islamic hate.

islam . . .
is NOT a "religion" in the purest sense, but a CULTURE. As the islamic "culture" is contrary to American Constitutional law (and values) there should be NO PROBLEM in banning it from America.
An example of "cultural practices" being modified to conform to American values is that of Mormon (LDS) polygamy. Although it is still practiced to this day, it is officially banned.
It seems that we could ban certain muslim "practices" for being antithical to American culture.
Remember, muslims--when in ROME do as the ROMANS do. Eurabia may already be lost. We must keep the islamification of America from happening.
sharia "law" must be BANNED in America.

Liberals are complicit ...
because they do not denounce muslim aggression. I think the left finds a friend in the muslims because of their mutual hatred of Christianity. So, Gestell, while you'll find very few liberals overtly siding with the deeds of the radical muslims, their non-action is read as complicity.

And shorts in NJ, the rights of women that you spoke of Iraqi women having mean nothing. Words on a piece of paper mean nothing if they are not enforced as the law of the land. If you think that, under Saddam Hussein, the women of Iraq had the freedoms you spoke of, you're less intelligent then some of the responders here gave you credit for. You know, it's kind of like the way some on SCOTUS treat the Constitutuion. When you wipe your arse with it, you show just how little respect you have for it.

Tod Kozeluh
Lexington, KY

These muslim men who beat women...
are not men at all - Mohammed the least among them, a coward and a fool. Islam is a cult and culture that justifies the subjugation of women.

"Liberalism" and Islam
What could be less respectful of women than encouraging them to worship sex and then kill their babies?

Liberals are never responsible
Gestell says: "My point is that conservatives assume, because they don't know any better, that the most disgusting leftists out there are no different from liberals. In fact, conservatives today see no difference between the two."

There IS no difference between libreal and extreme leftists.

Liberals operate as enablers and accessories after the fact by preventing US authorities from bringing justice to these Islamic women, a right we had but were preventen from enforcing in Iraq and Afghanistan by liberals.

Short on full disclosure
Shorts says: "Iraqi women were free to go wherever they wish and wear whatever they like. The 1970 Iraqi constitution, gave Iraqi women equity and liberty unmatched in the Muslim World."

So you deny the existence of the Rape Rooms, mass graves, use of chemical weapons on civilians, extermination of Kurds, because Baath loyalist women could wear heels.

The status of all women in a nation that has started a war (Kuwait) will suffer until the war and peace are resolved. Iraqi women will be far better off after the conclusion of the Saddam Hussein initiated history, IF the liberals are unable to force US influence from Iraq.

Feminist self loathing?
Spencer,NY, I hear you. I cannot understand why dropping gender-specific titles somehow makes women more equal.I have a friend who works in the theatre who describes herself as an "actor"
I asked her if she were nominated for a "best actress" award, would she accept it? She says "well....yeah"
The words poetess,authoress,and negress were completly dropped from the Webster Dictionary,and in one swoop,completely obliterated Oprah's Book Club.

VIZIER, Post # 37
Exellent! That was certainly not a fairy tale. It was both history and the future. If Americans do not stop leftist academics and progressive politicians it is definitely the future.

Devil's advocate ...
To those who attempt to libel islam by stating how they subjugate women, you need to know that western culture is not that far removed from doing the same thing under the guise of Christianity. Men would gloss right over the part in Ephesians 5 where they are commanded to love their wives as Christ loved the church and they would zero in on the part where their wives were commanded to submit to them.

While most in western culture have seen the error of their misinterpretation of scripture, we still have many men who treat women as chattel. There are still too many mean who interpret "headship" as "lordship" and feel they are kings of their castles rather than co-heirs to the blessings of God.

I point this out only because I don't want to see us getting overly prideful about coming to the realization we were wrong and started doing something right. If anything, we should still feel at least some remorse for the centuries of injustice women were forced to bear.

As for the fight against the muslim subjugation of women? Well, really it's the same mentality that wishes to subjugate all of mankind. We need to do our best to make sure that women know how valued they are by the One True God so that they realize just how much freedom has been stolen from them under islamic rule. We need them as allies in this battle. Why would we want to go to battle with only half of our troops?

Tod Kozeluh
Lexington, KY

Tod Kozeluh
Lexington, KY

If the liberal stupidity leads
to Islamist control and world domination, the only consolation is that it will be the liberals who are likely to be lined up and beheaded first.

Shorts says
"How many Rapes are committed in America ?
How many by Muslims ?"

How would we know? You think the women will report the crime if they face dire consequences? We certainly can't tell by looking at them due to the covering from head to toe.

Do you deny that it has and does happen in countries with larger muslim populations? Even worse, muslim governments?

The point is that the supposed rights advocates are silent on the issue of muslim treatment of women.

Muslim women
are beaten for not having a male child. Only the male determines the sex of the child. The female is just the place where the child placed by the male grows to size where it can live outside the womb. The female does not determine the sex.

I have written a letter to MichelleO warning her about what will happen to her (the old wife who failed to have a male child) and her daughters (who failed to be boys) once Flap Ears has all his programs in place.

Ted
""How many Rapes are committed in America ?
How many by Muslims ?"

How would we know? You think the women will report the crime if they face dire consequences?"

This is exactly the same argument made by feminists when they were trying to get rape laws revised to be more effective in preventing rape and in trying to enable prosecution of rapists with as little testimony as possible from the victim.

Feminists also claimed that pregnancy by rape was far more common than the "statistics" showed because American women were afraid to report being raped because their most intimate privay would be violated.

And American rape victims don't have to worry about being executed for adultery.

When the American left learned about apartheid in South Africa they mobilized to fight it, resulting in embargoes and the like. But all we get from the left when we explain the atrocious treatment of Islamic women is a lecture on how to be 'tolerant' of other religions.

I will never be tolerant of rape, execution for adultery, or mandatory mutilation. And I will continue to call liberals on their blatant hypocrisies at every opportunity.

For Douglas in IL
It doesn't matter if we drop gender indicators from nouns. Feminists and other women will complain no matter what the 'convention' becomes. If we call all actors and actresses "actors" some will complain. If we call the men actors and the women actresses others will complain.

When "Women's Lib" morphed into "Feminism" one of the first things feminists tried was to replace the word "women" with the word "womyn" because they didn't want the taint of the male gender attached to their collective noun. Of course they ran into a problem with the singular form of the word (woman) since they were running out of vowels.

The truth is you can never satisfy a liberal, on anything. If you let them have their lexicon they will continue to run into logical, practical problems with it and continue to blame it on white males.

The ultimate example is in a textbook I have for a class I am taking online. All pronouns are presented in the female gender, such as "she", "her", "hers", "herself", etc. This is politcal correctness in its essence. To use the traditional (and still grammatically correct) male gender pronouns such as "he" is considered sexist, but it's perfectly OK to use all female gender pronouns. That's considered "fair".

Your friend who works in the theatre won't be satisfied until all male performers agree to be called "actresses".

School Girls Lives Threatened

'If We Now Kill Schoolgirls, You Shouldn't Be Surprised'

By Matthias Gebauer and Shoib Najafizada in Kunduz, Afghanistan

"Responding to threats from the Taliban, at least 10 girls' schools have shut down near Kunduz in northern Afghanistan.

Visiting the schools is a dangerous proposition -- a trip leading directly into the heart of Islamist territory.

When the deputy director of Aqtash High School talks of the government, he isn't referring to Hamid Karzai's central government in Kabul.

Nor does he refer to the provincial administration in Kunduz. "The Taliban are our government," Bashir says. "They have taken over our region, their commanders give the orders here."

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,627004,00. html

The Hatred Of The Left
When all is said and done,the left in this country have more regard for Muslims than they do conservatives.

Let me say that again...they hate conservatives more than they do Muslims,even 'MILITANT MUSLIMS!!

If anyone doubts it....just read some of their posts. It is undeniable true.

oops,typo
...undeniably true.

Islam and Racism
Islam is an idea and a belief. It has NOTHING to do with race. Black, wight, yellow, red, brown can all be a muslim. It is a belief system and as such can be analyzed and then accepted or rejected. Like communism and fascism, islam is an oppressive totalitarian belief system that is intolerant of all other beliefs. The followers of mohamed are called upon to wage a war to spread islam to every corner of the world. It oppresses and abuses women, erases them from society, and treats them worse than animals. It demands that all infidels accept islamic dominion by either converting or submitting to slave status or be killed. It calls on muslums to lie and cheat to infidels. It demands that homosexuals be killed and states that all Jews will be killed in the end times when the rocks and trees call out "oh faithful muslim, there is a Jew hiding behind me! Come and kill him."
Islam deserves the protections that communism and fascism receive.
Race on the other hand can not be changed. One is born with it and will always remain in this class.
A muslim may one day hear the truth and convert to another faith. And thus be living in constant threat to their lives, because muslims are commanded to kill apostates too.

Think about this

Any women who leaves her house, unaccompanied by a male, is 'Fair Game' for Islamic males to rape.

If a 'Raped Woman' reports that she has been raped, she faces being 'Stoned to Death' or whipped to death or life in prison.

If the husband or any male in her family, 'Suspects' that she has been Raped - NO PROOF NECESSARY - she will either be 'Stoned to Death' or have her throat slit or have her head cut off.

If a husband of an Islamic woman wants to get rid of his wife, everyone in the family and/or village will help him kill her.

Her own children, boys and girls, will help stone her to death.

This is the 'Rights' of a woman under Islam.

there will never even be a debate


How is this not being debated publicly?

When something this serious isn't even being openly argued for and against; it will soon be too late. That's precisely what the Islamic cells are waiting to see. Taking over our societies by stealth.

The Bard was right:

"First we kill all the layers."


Tired of "Lock and Load" forays?
We, the people, can get on an American Grand Jury and join those who are legally "shooting" indictments at Barry Soetero aka Obama. Join The American Grand Jury movement!! These juries are being formed all over this country by American patriots who want to see Barry Soetero aka Obama ride out on the dung heap he rode in on!!. Nothing can stop True American Patriots!!

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Stoning?

If you are not sure what the term "Stoning" involves then watch this video and see exactly what Stoning is;

http://justsickshit.com/category/torture/prisoner-torture/

Does anyone remember?
There was an email that was going around pre-9/11 about how the Taliban was keeping women suppressed in Afghanistan and it was the cause of Jay Leno's wife. It was a true cause and a valuable one. What I find interesting is that under the leadership of President Bush the Taliban was taken out of power in Afghanistan. Yes, there is still turmoil there, but there is a democratic government now. On Oprah recently there was an episode where they had talent shows from around the world. The show specifically mentioned that now that the Taliban is out of power that Afghanistan can now have an "Afghanistan's Got Talent" where women can perform. I found it terribly interesting that there was nary a mention about how America (under the leadership of President Bush) was the one who liberated them from the Taliban. I guess it was only important when it was something Jay Leno's wife was championing. It wasn't worth a blip on the screen that President Bush brought freedom to those women.

Good Job Ashley
You have shined a light on the general extremist Islamic opression and hatred of women.

A light not often seen in the liberal anti American MSM. The silence from the Feministas and NOW is deafening.
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