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Wednesday, June 13, 2007
Ann Coulter :: Townhall.com Columnist
'No Drug Smuggler Left Behind'
by Ann Coulter
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President Bush was so buoyed by the warm reception he was given in Albania that he immediately gave all 3 million Albanians American citizenship, provided they learn Spanish. The offer was withdrawn when Bush found out most Albanians haven't broken any U.S. laws.

Bush keeps claiming he's dying to enforce the border, but he just can't do it unless we immediately grant amnesty to 12 million illegal aliens. I wonder if that worked on Laura Bush:

Laura: George, it's time you quit drinking.

George: OK, honey, let's discuss it over cocktails.

How about Bush enforce the border and then we'll discuss his amnesty plan?

He assures us that granting amnesty to millions of illegal immigrants already here won't inspire millions more to run across the border because ... he's going to put infrared lights at the border!

Well, that's a relief. What precisely will infrared lights do again? This is worse than those fake cameras they sell at hardware stores to make it look like you have cameras outside your house. We still need something or someone -- say, a wall or a Border Patrol agent -- to stop the Mexicans illegally crossing the border as we watch them on the infrared cameras.

Bush won't build a wall and he keeps prosecuting law enforcement officers who stop illegal border crossers. But trust him: He'll get right on that border enforcement business as soon as we grant amnesty to 12 million illegal aliens.

Ignacio Ramos and Jose Alonso Compean are normally the sort of Mexican-Americans Bush would tear up at while promoting amnesty for illegal aliens. Both served in the military and are taxpaying, law-abiding citizens. They've been risking their lives as Border Patrol agents for years.

Ramos was nominated for Border Patrol Agent of the Year in 2005. His nomination received a major setback when the Bush administration decided to put him in prison instead. Ramos and Compean are now serving more than 10 years apiece in solitary confinement for chasing a drug-running illegal alien back to Mexico.

Bush's pal, U.S. Attorney Johnny Sutton, gave immunity to a Mexican drug dealer hauling a million dollars worth of drugs across the border so that the drug dealer could testify against two Border Patrol agents who shot him in the buttocks.

The border patrol agents were presumed guilty of an unlawful shooting because they neglected to fill out the proper paperwork. For busting a cap in the butt of a drug courier crossing the border illegally -- who was so mortally wounded that he proceeded to scamper back to Mexico -- they were supposed to spend five hours filling out paperwork. This is what the Bush administration means when it talks about a "cover-up." As U.S. prosecutor Debra Kanof said, "You have to report any discharge of a firearm."

Intriguingly, Kanof also says: "The Border Patrol pursuit policy prohibits the pursuit of someone." (Hence, the oft-heard warning of the border agent in hot pursuit, "Stop or I'll ... do absolutely nothing!") Can we apply this rule to meter maids and tax collectors? At least now border agents will be able to watch the illegal aliens they can't pursue on infrared cameras!

But wait -- that's not all! The Border Patrol agents also exceeded the speed limit. "In order to exceed the speed limit," Kanof said, "you have to get supervisor approval, and they did not." It's just so hard to fill out a written request to exceed the speed limit when you're off-roading at 65 mph. There's a whispering campaign suggesting that Ramos and Compean failed to use their turn signal.

As I understand it, you're also supposed to not cross the border illegally from Mexico with a van full of drugs. But the Bush administration has no interest in enforcing those laws. Ninety-eight percent of illegal aliens captured crossing the border illegally are not prosecuted. Those drugs are doing the job American drugs just won't do!

The Bush administration pulls out the big guns only for serious violations like a Border Patrol officer not filling out paperwork.

In addition to giving the illegal alien drug smuggler full immunity to testify against U.S. Border Patrol agents, the government gave him taxpayer-funded medical care for his buttocks wound, an unconditional border-crossing card, the right to sue the U.S. for "civil rights" violations, and a GAP gift card. The drug runner is also on the short-list to replace Attorney General Alberto Gonzales.

He's now suing the U.S. for $5 million, but the Bush administration is hoping to bargain him down to $10 million.

That border-crossing card came in handy when the winged illegal alien brought in another load of drugs a short eight months later -- for which he has still not been charged, nearly two years later. Who does he think he is? Rep. William Jefferson?

Bush's pal Sutton keeps defending his decision to prosecute Border Patrol agents for paperwork violations, rather than an illegal alien for drug trafficking, on the grounds that the drug dealer has not been charged with any crimes. Let's see, whose job is it to charge that Mexican drug runner with a crime? Why, I believe that would be Johnny Sutton!

Maybe Sutton was too busy prosecuting another Mexican-American law enforcement officer for trying to stop illegal aliens from crossing our border. Deputy Sheriff Gilmer Hernandez shot at the tires of a van full of illegal aliens, inadvertently wounding one of them. Sutton prosecuted Hernandez. The government proceeded to give the illegal aliens green cards and $100,000 each.

I didn't realize "living in the shadows" meant in the shadows of palm trees around the pools at taxpayer-funded houses.

Illegal aliens might want to rethink Bush's amnesty plan. The only Hispanics Bush seems to prosecute are the ones who are law-abiding U.S. citizens.

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Free Ramos and Campeon!!!
Imprison Bush! that's all.

A new record Ann
This is a new record Ann, 4 weeks in a row a column on the same subject. For humor this one is the best. Too bad the subject is so serious. Bush's approval record is dropping like a rock. McShame's ratings are also dropping like a rock. Hopefully this bill will not return before the next election. Of course, according to Land Deal Reid, this is Bush's bill so if a Dem is elected in 08 the bill will be dead forever. Hahahahaha, Ted the swimmer had nothing to do with this bill.

Bush Disgusts me!
That is all.

June 13 column
I made the same points in my weekly column in the local paper (Dixie County FL Advocate). Glad mine hit the streets before yours showed up on Town Hall, or I'd have been accused of plagerizing your material. Hope to be seeing more of you on FOX News, and when are you going to write another book? I've read two of Bernie Goldberg's since your last one, and that just ain't right.
Jer

mine fields
Don't we have alot of landmines left?Well let's start at the US/carphole border then lay them 5 miles back to fixed walls with cwis emplacements and fire away!

After amnesty
Here is my concern:
Once the illegals are given amnesty, won't they have to go into the kinds of jobs that require withholding, etc.? Then, won't they end up on welfare because those jobs are not as available?

Wonder if
anyone has estimated how much that will cost, Ruth. You are right on!

Carping and Moaning . . .
Before the "loyal opposition" begins their carping and moaning (we all have to be good at something), I have a challenge for them . . .

Please refute Ann's arguments point by point using objective facts and arguments and not subjective "feelings," and without name calling.

I'm waiting.

Ruth, just imagine the skyrocketing
Medicaid/Medicare costs, which will be passed onto US taxpayers, primarily those NOT eligible for Medicaid or Medicare.

Then imagine the millions of illegals joining the Social Security roles? SS is already headed into the dumpster without having millions more added on (and their family members who follow.)

To all of you who OPPOSE shamnesty, keep on calling, faxing, and emailing as many Senators as possible. Who cares if they are not from your state? They represent America! Also keep contacting President Bush as well. Mention that you find it interesting Compean,Ramos, and Hernandez are behind bars for UPHOLDING THE LAW, the very law that the President assures us will be upheld if this 'new and better' (hahaha!)
shamnesty bill passes.

Is that shrill harpy still here?
And you wonder why you got trounced in the 2006 elections. Keep up the good work! =)

See, they just don't get it.
Come on guys, I said objective facts and arguments, not just snotty, pointless comments.

BUSH STUPID?

I did not used to think George Bush was stupid. Well, maybe a little fuzzy-minded sometimes, and sometimes he wasn't quick-thinking on his feet, but deep down I truly believed he had normal intelligence. My own fuzzy thinking was betrayed when I came to realize that George really was a little slow, not just fuzzy-minded, not just a little slow on the uptake, but that he absolutely lacked normal intelligence.

This knowledge made itself known to me about the time he started talking about his immigration "reform" plan, and about the time Campeon and Ramos found themselves in the slammer. I found myself blaming George directly for that travesty.

I can no longer trust a man as President that deep down I consider stupid. And I know he considers me stupid, too -- along with millions of my peers. Looks like we have a Mexican stand-off.

And before anybody starts in on my being a bloody racist, one of my beautiful granddaughters is one-quarter Mexican. And people should keep their traps shut about her, or I'll rip their sombreros off.

so sad it is funny
Super genius Bush gives the last 10 supporters the brown eye while proving every single one of his critics correct on his stubborn inability to admit he is on the 'wrong side of the fence'.

I guess we can deport people like Elian Gonzales when they come from a Communist dictatorship, but not when they come here from a free republic(a corrupt one but still free).

I think we should have infared cameras to watch the Border agents and fire the ones who don't arrest every single invader(and shoot the ones
who resist).

As far as the wall is concerned, perhaps a million of the non-criminals can help build it for a 5 year work Visa.

If all 12 million are granted amnesty I want a free Mexican citizenship....on second thought a case of Corona and some limes would be fine.

Ann
"Bush won't build a wall and he keeps prosecuting law enforcement officers who stop illegal border crossers."

Wait a moment dear. The wall around Berlin and for that matter the old East Germany sure helped them and worked. THAT SAID, Ann has come a long way from Ronnie's: "Tear down this wall" to the conservatives cowering and screaming build a wall. Sad very sad

Brilliant columns lately!
Thank you for posting that, ChairmanMao. I voted for GWB twice, but the guy needs to be impeached before he can do any more damage. His disregard for the law in just the SPP & his Presidential Directive 51 (see link below) should be sufficient grounds for impeachment.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/05/20070509-12.html

Raven, soothsayer actually proved
your point, yes? If you have been posting at TH long enough you may recall how posters would accuse 'kimberly' of 'driving and dumping.' Soothsayer is similar, but instead of dumping is simply passing gas. Poor baby, maybe soothsayer needs to be burped?

dianachris
"As I said in my earlier post, I voted for GWB twice, but he needs to be impeached."

I would rather wait and haul him in front of the Hague....

Come on Ann...
You and all the rest like you are just racist! I know, 'cause that is what I have heard from John McShame, Teddy "too bad she couldn't swim" Kennedy, and our very own special president. I have supported many things GWB has done, especially in the area of tax cuts and the war against islamic fascists but I cannot fathom this push for an amnesty bill that is disguised as comprehensive immigration reform.

Sometimes Ann's ascerbic wit is over the top (although I usually like it!) this time she is spot on. The only attack that the libs can have to her column is against her directly, not on what she has to say (as seen by the one post written so far--soothsayer)

Ann is right on
After reading Ann's column, I've decided this new amnesty bill is a good thing. Make them legal citizens and then give them jobs as Border Patrol agents. It's the only way they'll ever face criminal charges. Great job, Ann.

Where's the fence?

Couple of items: up in my neck of the woods, we are building "sound barriers" along stretches of interstate highway.

Some of these are as much as 30 feet high and appear to be fairly thick concrete walls. They are going up surprisingly fast, over quite the expanse. It occurs to me that if we are able to do this as quickly and efficiently as we are.....

Where's the fence?

2nd item: no more republicans writes:

Oh, I'm not going to bother copying the drivel...it's just the usual blather..

My point is this (and I'm stealing it from another poster):

This is not a left/right or liberal/conservative issue; this is an American issue.

We are all pi&&ed off about this BS, and I don't care who you want to blame; just wake up and smell the coffee.

Dear Ann
This is and excellent article. Your satire is on this subject is exquisite.

If only it all were not so true.


Lynne
Ignore it. The libs don't understand that we cons can disagree with something one of our own does because no matter how bad or how crooked on of their pols are they will stick up for the loser and approve.

Mrs Coulter
The positive side of "US" immigration policy is fairly "SIMPLE.Hopefully, you will indulge me with your next article!Oh!What is that positive side?At least we don't have to worry about them RECROSSING the border!Many Americans in their short-sightedness,fail to realize, that putting these people out, only forces some of them to try re-entering again.Some might say,that our approach may be causing more problems than it will resolve.I personally don't want people who are here,having to "RISK" their life again!So,Mrs. Coulter could you discuss this human side of the Immigration issue.

Not as long as Bush is President
We should not undertake any immigration reform until after another Presidential election. This President has shown his loyalties are not to American citizens on this issue. Personally, I believe we need Comprehensive Immigration Enforcement, not reform. We have the laws, what we don't have is any enforcement. Without enforcement, laws are meaningless.

This new package will be no different than 1986. The borders could have and should have been secured September 12, 2001. But that would have disrupted the cheap labor express and the RNC could not disappoint its contributors. So the problem has doubled as enforcement went from inadequate under Clinton to nonexistent under Bush. Now they will try to jam another amnesty down our throats. The question remains, will we let them?

March for America Events June 14, 15, 16

March for America June 14, 15, 16 Washington D.C. and state capitols across the country. Be there or be without a country.

http://www.lframerica.com/march2.html

Killer
As much as I'd like to have been the "Mr Coulter", Ann is Miss Coulter (I have a suspicion that she would NOT be one to go by Ms--anyone disagree! :-)

stop the invading horde!
Make those calls and send those e-mails to Congress, folks!

Now IS the time for all good Americans to come to the aid of their country! Contact your folks in Congress ASAP and tell them to listen to Middle America. You can reach them EASILY right here at their OFFICIAL sites:

http://www.congressmerge.com/onlinedb/index.htm

Let freedom ring out-- often! Time is short, and the pending scamnesty legislation could make or break the very future of America as we have known it for over 200 years.That so-called cheap labor is nothing of the sort all-in. Furthermore, 72% of Americans think the most important need by far is enforcement, NOT the naturalization of the great invading horde of undereducated indigent socially disparate:

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/just_26_favor_senate_immigration_plan

Let's not lose the many things that have made America great and uniquely successful for so many to the Conspiracy of Evil --> miscreant employers, Chamber lobbies and other open border, NAU ilk, free trade advocates; ethnocentric/racist latino groups bent on the reconquista; the anti-America, PC, Big Brother entitlement government left; scandal-plagued church leaders seeking replacement contributors; corrupt plutocratic Mexican government interests seeking to make America the welfare department for Mexico's poor; vote and money-grubbing pols.

This is BY FAR the best pro-America lobbying site where you can select prepared e-mails to send and learn how to engage in other ways to save your country:

http://www.numbersusa.com/index

some other good sites and articles:

http://www.heritage.org/Research/Immigration/wm1076.cfm
http://vdare.com/misc/070607_economist.htm
http://www.grassfire.org/
http://www.firesociety.com/article/12134/
http://www.theamericanresistance.com/articles/art2004jan04.html
http://www.amren.com/Reports/Hispanics/HispanicsReport.htm
http://www.cis.org/articles/2006/back906.html
http://www.libertygunrights.com/NAUFactSheet.pdf
http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/index.html
http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServer?pagename=research_researchd74c
http://www.cis.org/index.cgi
http://capwiz.com/usbc/index_frame.dbq?url=http://capwiz.com/usbc/home/
http://www.heritage.org/Research/Immigration/wm1076.cfm
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=OTg5YmRmODY4OTAyZTU2NGM2Y2E3NjY2MzdmYTE1NjI=
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=43275
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/15/AR2007051502022.html

HUNTER FOR AMERICA

Republican voters still get to decide who their nominee will be. Money only buys elections when people act like sheep. If 80% of Republicans are indeed seeking a conservative, we can nominate one. We can nominate Duncan Hunter. The money players won't like it and are trying to convince us only Rudy, Romney, or McCain can win. Hogwash. They want an open borders candidate. Give Americans a chance to vote for a candidate who WILL secure the border and watch turnout soar. Americans want their government to fulfill it's most basic responsibility.

The primary responsibility of the U.S. government is to protect the territorial integrity and people of this country. They have completely abdicated this responsibility. Both parties have been complicit in this. We are being told it is not possible to control our borders, enforce our laws, and thereby control our destiny as a nation. Hogwash. We are being sold out by corporations intent on importing workers for jobs that can't be exported with the taxpayers paying the true costs, financial and human. If we act like sheep and don't stop the inundation across our borders, we will lose our country without a bleat.

http://www.gohunter08.com

Lynne
Yep, it be the truth. For the left, it's defend the indefensible no matter what the crime or immoral, unethical behavior for their politicians.

So disagreeing with one of their politicians is an unheard of event. The libs can't understand this concept.

VAPatriot
Exactly. Enforcement of the laws and our borders is they only thing the pols need to do. We don't need an "illegal alien" bill.

An Open Letter to President Bush
President George Bush
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue
Washington, DC 20500

Dear President Bush:

I am absolutely disgusted with your support of S. 1348, a bill which would legalize millions of lawbreakers and hurt millions of Americans who find it difficult to find work. This is not the legacy your want.

What is the matter with you? Why are you more supportive of Mexicans than you are of Americans? Why do you hold your countrymen in such contempt? You are a fraud. You certainly are no Conservative. I no longer believe you are a patriot and I sincerely doubt you are even a Christian.

You are a corporatist poseur as a Conservative. You cynically kiss up to social conservatives, get their support and then push your corporatist agenda. You make Bill Clinton look like "Honest Abe". You are Carl Rove's Frankenstein Monster in the White House.

I have been a conservative since 1964 when I supported Goldwater so I know what a conservative is and you certainly are not one. I used to be a Republican, until you came along. Now I am a registered Independent.

I worked in downtown Los Angeles on May 1, 2005 and I saw these criminal invader's signs and flags. They flew the Mexican Flag and signs that implied that we Americans were the illegal aliens and that this was Mexico, not the U.S.A. Your buddies in the Mexican Government teach them that from the time they are children. We have a foreign army in this country that believes that this country should return the territories it gained in the 1840s to Mexico. That army is bigger than the armed forces of the United States during the Second World War. You will be responsible for the next Civil War some day. You live in a sheltered environment, like limousine liberals such as that disgusting alcoholic cretin and satyr Ted Kennedy. You have no idea of the damage you are doing to this beloved nation. The United States is the greatest thing that God ever let sit at his foot stool. Why are you selling it on an international garage sale?

We are being invaded! You support this invasion! Why? Why do you hold the American people is such contempt? What is the matter with you? Are you stupid..or as crooked as a pretzel?

You are the worst President in my living memories and I go all the way back to Harry Truman. You are the first President in my living memories to be dedicated to the destruction of the American way of life. The others who diminished it were just fools, you seem to be dedicated to it. I cannot explain you to myself without references to abnormal psychology or conspiracy theories. I don't subscribe to conspiracy theories, but you lend credence to some of them. I hope you live to be a hundred years old so you can live with your historical legacy.

I look forward to visiting your Presidential Library some day. It will be the largest collection of Cliff Notes on the Planet Earth! Clinton’s will be the largest collection of Hustler magazines!

It has been reported that some of your staff had a discussion of Lincoln's famous quote "You can fool some of the people all of the time, all of the people some of the time. But you can't fool all of the people all of the time." One of your underlings allegedly said "Well two out of three ain't bad". Well George, you had your two out of three a long, long time ago. If you think that the American people still believe you then you really are a dunce!

A very disappointed,

Mr. Addison Bond

P.S. Please take that American Flag off of your lapel ( the one that was probably made in Red China) and replace it with a platinum dollar sign with diamond studs.
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The battle is still on. Don't just post here, write your senators and the current occupant of the White House and let them know how you feel.

Rejoice, compassionate conservatives,
Our chickens are coming home to roost.

We elected a conservative, whose ideology is based on:

* faith
* generosity
* charity

Why does it surprise us that our champion is generous when it comes to opening our borders.

Next time, let's elect a conservative whose ideology is based on:

* reason
* self-interest

Instead of their positions on social issues like gay rights, lets focus on our candidates' position on economic issues (yes, illegal immigration is an economic issue).

Our politicians can do more damage to our pocketbooks than to our sex lives.

Bush The Democrat
It looks like we have a Democratic president to go right along with our Democratic Congress. Thank God only a year adn a half to go. And most of next year will eb the eletion so Bush is done.

Another great article Ann, and as usual you are spot on! Thanks for a few laughs in the face of this sad state of affairs.

no more repubs
"The republican will describe, ignorantly and with gusto, themselves and claim that it is liberals who act so nasty.
It is unheard of for you a##es to go against Bush"

Nice try guy. Also nice there with the expletive. I don't see anyone here other than you using such nasty language. So projection, I think not. You just showed yourself for what you are.

As a matter of fact, for your info, most of the conservatives here at TH have gone against Bush on this.


ICE does job and
Liberal Mayor complains.

http://www.koin.com/Global/story.asp?S=6649875&pass=1#poll61855

They should arrest him also. The ammendment to elliminate sanctuary cities was defeated. Another reason for opposing this bill.

Tom Paine
I really like the letter you sent the president. I have written every member of the Senate and some twice. We must keep it up. One thing though, don't let Bush chase you from the Republican party. This is our party and he left it. Let throw him out!

Ann IS brilliant!
This column is predictably EXCELLENT... with her rapier wit, Ann cleverly exposes and eviscerates the disingenuous drivel that Presidente Jorge and his pro-latino ilk try to foist on us. Jorge is now such a joke that his attempt to guilt-trip us actually HURT his reconquista cause, but he was too dense to realize this.

The left REALLY hates it when a conservative American is bright and wickedly (and deliciously) clever. Ann likes to play the provocateur (it makes her famous and rich for one thing), but do not underestimate her candle power-- as information, she is a top ranked graduate of a preeminent law school:

"She graduated cuma laude from Cornell in 1984, and received her law degree from the University of Michigan Law School, where she achieved membership in the Order of the Coif and was an editor of the Michigan Law Review."


Not only will Mexican trucks be coming..
but so will Mexican planes.

National borders erased for airlines in new plan

worldnetdaily.com/news/printer-friendly.asp?ARTICLE_ID=56147

We need to fight this & IMPEACH BUSH.

another brilliant analyst
Check out Lou Dobb's web site here:

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/lou.dobbs.tonight/

Lou's Top 5 List:

Top 5 Dumbest Things in the Immigration Bill

5) Taxpayers will pay for the immigration lawyers for illegal aliens if working in agriculture.

4) Illegal aliens would be given legal status just one day after their application is filed even if a background check is not completed.

3) Gang members are eligible for amnesty if they renounce their gang status.

2) Borders do not have to be secure before the amnesty program begins.

1) $2,600,000,000,000 -- That is the cost the Heritage Foundation estimates to cover the retirement benefits of 12,000,000 illegal aliens if this amnesty bill becomes law.

Lou's current column (worth a read) suggesting that Presidente Jorge back off (as another great American Sen. Sessions effectively told Jorge):
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/06/12/Dobbs.June13/index.html

As information, Lou grew up "dirt poor" but graduated from Harvard in Economics on merit. Like Ann Coulter, he is a lightning rod because he too speaks the inconvenient truths that the reconquista crowd is loath to hear, becuase it gives lie to their litany of disingenuous drivel with its ulterior agenda. One of their favorite ploys is the hackneyed ad hominem calumny that he is a "racist" or "xenophobe"... au contraire, his wife of many years is a LEGAL Latino-American (indeed, Mexican heritage).

We don't need to iompeach Bush.
All we need to do is make sure that this bill doesn't get passed by this congress. Land Deal Reid said it was Bush's bill so if he is gone the bill is gone. Ted the swimmer really had nothing to do with this bill. It was all McShame and Bush.

Yes
I don't think we should impeach Bush, just contain him and fight this bill. Then he can go home to his ranch in obscurity, since next year everyone will be watch the election and no one will care about Bush.

Funny if it weren't so true.
This column sounds like the parody of someone's nightmare until they woke up to realize it was true.

and those calling for Scooter Libby to be pardoned are conspicuous in their silence on Ramos and Complean.


Ann, I didn't think you could top your column from two weeks ago, and you did. Then I didn't think you could top last weeks. You're on a roll.

It's just so unfortunate that a sitting Republican president has to be the one feeding you the material.

Ann Outdoes Herself!!!
Look forward to your column every week - your first paragraph had me rolling on the floor peeing on myself.

I hate surveys, especially consumer or those wanting personal information (like the recent Census Community Survey - I think trying to count the illegals).

I hate phone surveys, especially when I'm in the middle of an "Evil" Soduku puzzle & the clock is ticking. But she said "Political Survey".
I asked how long & she said 10 minutes. Bring it
on! She talked fast & some questions were tricky: e.g. "Do you think we have a serious problem that needs to be dealt with immediately"?
Well yes, but that doesn't mean I support the current bill.
Strongly againt the Bill as it stands.
Strongly for Border Security.
Strongly for Employer Crackdown.
Somewhat for TEMPORARY Guest Workers.
Strongly against Legalization of ALL Illegals.
(Cornyn's Amendment was an improvement, but was rejected - I think a point system might work).

I think I should have told her that I was an Hispanic Liberal, instead of a Stupid White Male
Conservative though.

Also I both emailed & wrote Cornyn & Hutchison.
Put up my flag tonight for Flag Day.
What else can I do to stop this Zombie Bill from Hell from coming back?

I did read something about some marches starting tomorrow - wonder if there will be a turn out & if it get any media coverage?

a letter to Senators
Dear Senator Chambliss:

With regard to the pending amnesty legislation, Washington is simply NOT LISTENING to Middle America! Please consider this excerpt from the latest Rasmussen polling:

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The enforcement side of the debate is clearly where the public passion lies on the issue. Seventy-two percent (72%) of voters say it is Very Important for “the government to improve its enforcement of the borders and reduce illegal immigration.” That view is held by 89% of Republicans, 65% of Democrats, and 63% of unaffiliated voters.

Advocates of “comprehensive” reform have taken to arguing that those who want an enforcement-only policy must explain how they would deal with the 12 million illegal aliens already living in the country. The public reaction to that question appears to be “Why?” Only 29% of voters say it is Very Important for “the government to legalize the status of illegal aliens already in the United States.”

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Good heavens, even 2/3 of the Democrats think it is VERY IMPORTANT to improve border enforcement and REDUCE ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION! Middle America wants enforcement first!

1) Build the ALREADY APPROVED fence and give us TRUE interior and workplace enforcement!

2) Enforce visa rules

3) No Scamnesty-- there should be NO connection
between a path to citizenship and having come
here ILLEGALLY-- PERIOD!

4) No welfare for ILLEGALS-- PERIOD! We cannot allow Mexico to make America its welfare department.

5) End birthright citizenship unless at least one
parent is a U.S. citizen. Reinterpret the 14th Amendment as it was intended.

6) Pass TRUE reform which stresses immigrants who
can benefit America-- the educated and
skilled. We cannot afford to naturalize the
ILLEGAL aliens-- we will ineluctably morph
into a third world welfare state.

7) Make English the OFFICIAL language-- END OF STORY! Bilingualism will devolve into disaster; no ballots or anything else except in English-- learn or return!

Thanks for considering our views... America is watching VERY CAREFULLY what Congress does.

Name
College Professor
Business and Economics

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Folks, now IS the time for all good Americans to come to the aid of their country! Contact your folks in Congress ASAP and tell them to listen to Middle America. You can reach them EASILY right here at their OFFICIAL sites:

http://www.congressmerge.com/onlinedb/index.htm

Let freedom ring out-- often! Time is short, and the pending scamnesty legislation could make or break the very future of America as we have known it for over 200 years. Let's not lose it to the Conspiracy of Evil [miscreant employers,
Chamber lobbies, and other open border, NAU ilk, free trade advocates; ethnocentric latino groups bent on the reconquista; the anti-America, PC, big entitlement government left; church leaders seeking new contributors; corrupt Mexican government interests seeking to make America the welfare department for Mexico; vote and money- grubbing pols].

Jorge's broken promises and lies

Presidente Jorge and his ilk have indeed renegged on commitments and artfully lied about their ulterior agendas. This is perhaps what REALLY prompts the unbridled animus among those of us who held our noses and voted twice for him, but are now righteously indignant about a number of things, mainly the war of choice without end in Iraq and the emperor's new clothes Scamnesty effort.

It was not WE who broke our commitments, radically changed courses, chose to spend and grow govt. like drunken 'Crats, engendered a foreign war against the wrong enemy at the wrong time (per many generals and intelligence experts), sold out America with promises to Mexico, or abandoned conservative principles (see the Rx Care For Seniors boondoggle, No Bureaucrat Left Behind, promising welfare and S.S. to Mexico). We don't have "a broken immigration system"... we have instead a feckless Prez who has been criminally nonfeasant in not defending and protecting our border and upholding laws he himself signed (border fence, more border guards, workplace enforcement, etc.).

I was going to cite some examples, but chanced upon a concurrent post that says it tellingly, saliently, and compellingly... I am sure that the author will not mind my paying homage to her straightforward wisdom by transferring it here:

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(edited slightly)
Anna writes: Tuesday, June, 12, 2007 1:37 AM
Foaming at the mouth?

I live in an ultra liberal city. I have been cussed out on the street for having a Bush sticker on my car. I trusted Bush. I trusted him when he said he needed fast track. Thought he was just working for the safety of our country. Then I found out if was so he could pass these trade agreements to screw Americans without any opposition. I bought it all.

Then there was Harriet Miers. Out of control spending, etc. And the war in Iraq. We are spending billions for "national security" and he is leaving the back door wide open. Real people are dying in Iraq. Mothers' children! Since when is welfare democracy a conservative principle? Who is retarded enough to think that a civilization that likes to behead people on camera and send the images around the world to inspire their comrades is even capable of understanding the principles of democracy! They want Sharia law.

I don't remember anyone coming over and handing us our freedom when we were 13 colonies taking on the super power of the day. Helping them help themselves is one thing, but this is nothing more than welfare democracy and has about the same chance of working as any other form of welfare.

I hung in there with Bush until the day I found about the real plan. That he is working for the destruction of our country. I know what it is to work for a living. I am outraged that he has the nerve to tell us that WE do not want what is good for America? He is supposedly a CHRISTIAN?! I am a Christian and I know the end of the story when it comes to one world government. How can he be going along with this?

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/04/20070430-4.html (where is it in the constitution that we are supposed to advance a globalist agenda and economic integration with the EU? If some say I am delusional about what is going on, consider that this is from the White House web site!)

Carter and George have a lot in common. Go to augustreview.com. Read everything there if you don't already know what the agenda is. Carter was their first president. Bush probably won't succeed totally in completing the visio, but he is coming close. The goal for the NAU is 2010.

He is a traitor. He has betrayed the trust of the people and the oath he took to uphold the constitution of this country.

I depise him now.

Peppermint/Lynne
Another great column by Ann Coulter! Which always drives the Liberal/Communist up a wall.

I love the way you two girls play with the small brain of the Liberals. You take it out bounce it all over the floor and the idiots don't even know you've done it! LOL!

top 10 problems with pending Scamnesty
http://vdare.com/misc/070607_economist.htm

The above is a literate analysis of the GLARING, EGREGIOUS flaws in the pending Scamnesty legislation. The new Rasmussen makes pretty clear that almost 3/4 of us want REAL ENFORCEMENT first and foremost:

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/just_26_favor_senate_immigration_plan

Some key excerpts from Rasmussen:
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The enforcement side of the debate is clearly where the public passion lies on the issue. Seventy-two percent (72%) of voters say it is Very Important for “the government to improve its enforcement of the borders and reduce illegal immigration.” That view is held by 89% of Republicans, 65% of Democrats, and 63% of unaffiliated voters.

Advocates of “comprehensive” reform have taken to arguing that those who want an enforcement-only policy must explain how they would deal with the 12 million illegal aliens already living in the country. The public reaction to that question appears to be “Why?” Only 29% of voters say it is Very Important for “the government to legalize the status of illegal aliens already in the United States.”
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Presidente Jorge and many in Congress have NO INTENTION WHATSOEVER of ever defending our border or enforcing immigration laws internally. We need to VOCIFEROUSLY make clear that this nonfeasance, indeed treason and violation of his oath of office, is TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE!

Contact your people in Congress at their OFFICIAL sites right here, folks:

http://www.congressmerge.com/onlinedb/index.htm

DO NOT DELAY!!! Presidente Jorge again thinks he knows what is best for you even when 72% of us disagree with that quisling boob!

Start with your 2 Senators, then contact your personal Congressman and the others in your state. Let freedom ring out! It is time to demand that we save America for Americans before we all become just the educated, taxpaying gringo minority!!

May God bless and PRESERVE America! It would be a terrible thing to lose. It is in dire risk of morphing inexorably into a third world welfare state if we do not stanch the tsunami of undereducated, indigent ILLEGALS flooding in and permeating throughout.

Mitt and Rudy
Ann,

Your point that "Americans display no evident desire to defend their culture, much less transmit it, and immigrants show no evident desire to adopt it" is made clear by the fact that a leading Candidate for President has a website in Spanish! That Candidate is Mitt Romney and on his website he says; "We need to make America more attractive for legal immigrants"! Why would he want to change America and make it more attractive for immigrants? I guess Freedom and Liberty don't make America attractive enough, according to Mitt Romney. I wonder how many of his supporters really know that about him? Mitt isn't the only one who thinks we need to change and "make America more attractive" for other cultures. A Target department store in the Phoenix area that I live near (on W. Southern Ave. and S. Longmore St. in Mesa, AZ) has signs in Spanish with simple words like "Men" (and) "Women" on the restroom doors, and department signs like "Mens Clothing", etc. are all in Spanish. This is no border town, so if immigrants don't know at least some simple and basic words like these in English, I don't think they care too much about assimilating!

Although illegal-immigration is one of the top issues Americans are dealing with, have you noticed that Rudy Giuliani has no mention of his position about our immigration policy on his website! To me, the purposeful omission of the immigration issue on his website is clear evidence that his position is flexible and will change with the polls! You're probably aware that Mitt and Rudy each have their own "comprehensive" immigration plan, but in an article titled "Comprehensive or Incomprehensible?" one Fred Thompson writes; " We should scrap this 'comprehensive' immigration bill and the whole debate until the government can show the American people that we have secured the borders".

There clearly
WAS a US Attorny scandal.

Apparently, eight firings weren't nearly enough!

Rudy on illegal immigration
Rudy says; "I will end illegal immigration, secure our borders, and identify every non-citizen in our nation."

But how will he "end illegal immigration"? Immediately granting amnesty would also "end illegal immigration"! The fact is that Rudy still has not made his position on the immigration issue clear!

Fred Thompson writes; "We should scrap this 'comprehensive' immigration bill and the whole debate until the government can show the American people that we have secured the borders".

EX-TEX
Since I am here in Texas, my new project is to print out maps from my area; by El Campo, Hwy 59.
The maps show how to get from here to Crawford Texas. It promises free land, beef on the hoof and plenty of trees for open fires. Am watching the news to see how it pans out.

Latest numbers from Rasmussen Poll:
Sixty-nine percent (69%) of voters would favor an approach that focuses exclusively on “exclusively on securing the border and reducing illegal immigration.” Support for the enforcement only approach comes from 84% of Republicans, 55% of Democrats, and 69% of those not affiliated with either major party.

See: http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/poll_voters_want_smaller_steps_to_immigration_reform_with_focus_on_enforcement

It ain't just republicans and conservatives. It's ALL AMERICANS.

Keep It up George!
Pretty soon Ann will turn her full attention to you! Not that she needs to waste her time, on someone who can't seem to avoid incurring the wrath and loathing, of most of his party all by himself!

I wish I knew what he was trying to accomplish by doing so but the fact is, I can no longer look at him, much less listen to him, without becoming violently ill.

I guess you could try wearing a red tie like RWR but that would just be as phony as calling the word amnesty some other word, wouldn't it?....


Calm? We Don't Use No Stinking Calm!
I came over from the Fred Thompson thread hoping to get here before the loonies landed. Obviously, I'm too late. It's amazing to me the amount of ignorance so evident in the lefty posters [and some of the childish 'we-think-we're-Conservatives' as well.]

The amnesty bill is wrong. Most of us share that opinion. And we can heartily enjoy Ann Coulter's humorous efforts of the day because they're right on point. The border between the US and Mexico is a shambles. Everyone seems to know and understand that except the Washington politicians. I'm truly at a loss trying to understand where some of them are coming from. The last time I checked, these politicians are supposed to be representing the American people, not the Mexicans. And yes, being concerned about this porous border and the wrong-headed thinking about its control is not racist. It's about our citizens and how they suffer from the going's-on at the free tollboths down south.

Racism's just a tag a lot of people like to throw about when they have no logical comments to make or they fear what you are saying is true. They use a lot of tags: racism; discrimination; homophobia; nazism; etc. when they don't know how to answer someone. They never seem to be at a loss for those words---which, by the way, represent ideas and actions some of us Americans gave our lives to fight.

Perhaps, when George Bush leaves the White House, he could be sentenced to a year serving as a border patrol guard, oh say in one of the hot spots of lower Texas. I wonder if he'd still be in favor of jailing a border guard for doing his duty?

Does anyone else remember Bush saying...
..."Vamos a ganar" to a crowd of Latins (semper fidelis; e pluribus unum) during a 2000 campaign speech? We distinctly remember seeing the video clip in the news.

Damn Jack Ruby!
If he hadn't gunned down Lee Harvey Oswald, he might have been available again.

beware of Rudy on ILLEGALS
When Rudy was Mayor, he not only made the Big Apple "Sanctuary City," but also proclaimed with zeal-- "If you are undocumented, we WANT YOU HERE!" He is simply trying to crawfish now. He is DOA as far as I am concerned.

Duncan Hunter would do if he can get traction, but the odds (a mere Congressman), the Conspiracy Of Evil establishment, and MM are against him. Fred is SAYING the right things, but has been linked to the globalists before.

He1l, Presidente Jorge sometimes SAYS the right things. Fortunately, America now rightly sees the Quisling-In-Chief as a bad liar and disingenuous advocate for Scamnesty for ILLEGALS-- "all hat, no cattle" there, Jorge. You promised them down in Mexico recently that you would work for THEM on immigration "reform"-- that was naked treason, and some of us heard you, you lying cur! You have already committed surreptitiously to send non-existent S.S. funds down there... let's just send you instead, Jorge-- you already speak their bad Spanish! Vaya con dios, Jorge!

Excellent article, Ann...
but why am I laughing and crying at the same time?

Illegal aliens wave their Mexican flag, yell Viva La Mexico, and demand unearned rights; they and the pro-amnesty supporters have pushed my fed-up button too many times!

It is time to build the fence and enforce our current immigration laws; and pardon our U.S. Border Patrol agents.

Mistake
Should have been *imprisoned* U.S. Border Patrol agents.

Will Bush's reign EVER end??
Brave Border Agents Ramos and Compean are the ONLY two Mexicans for whom Bush won't give Amnesty.

I voted for this dope Bush twice and now I can't wait for his reign to come to an end. I supposed the next President could be worse, but not ALOT worse!

Bush is betraying the people!
I used to like Bush; now I can't stand him, and actually wish the traitorous Democrats would impeach this traitorous President!

We should all send the following email to the WhiteHouse: "Why are you betraying the American people? Why are you trying to destroy the Republican Party? Why are you grievously damaging America?"

no more republicans writes:
Wednesday, June, 13, 2007 10:22 PM
Lynne
You are unbelievable. When the dunce you have defended through the indefensible does something you disagree with you turn on him and make it seem as though this immigration BS is a liberal idea. This despite the fact the clown president Reagan gave first big amnesty and Bush (the man who you all thought was the next Reagan) gave the second.
Amnesty benefits are exclusively for the "bosses" (cheap and exploitable labor), short term and are outweighed in any cost/benefit analysis.
Wake up Lynne

Reagan may have been a clown but at least we are speaking English and not Russian. That idiot Jimmy Carter would have turned this country over to the Russians lock, stock and barrel if it would have gotten him a Nobel Peace Prize. Tell me have you libs ever gotten over the fact your side lost the Cold War?

I am John Doe!

their heads on pikes
In January of 1649, the English beheaded their king for treason. And not until this last month have I ever thought well of Oliver Cromwell.

NEW Party Needed! (Not 3rd Party)
Ann Coulter has once again shown us why she is our generation’s Thomas Paine.

If it is not time to organize and fight back, when will it be? WE NEED A NEW PARTY! Which is NOT the same as a third party! Just like the antebellum America of 1854, both parties have become unacceptably tolerant of tyranny and enslavement which have been traditionally confined to the Democratic Party and need to be returned to the custody of the Democrats.

The country had two dominant parties in 1854: the Whigs and the Democrats. Because the Democratic Party was the party of tyranny and enslavement and the Whig Party had become indistinguishable in its embrace of enslavement and tyranny, the Whig Party was no longer needed since tyrants had an even better and more established home in the Democratic Party. What was needed was a home for the lovers of liberty which is why they created the Republican Party. The first president of the nascent party was arguably the greatest champion for liberty in the history of mankind, Abraham Lincoln. Those few Democrats who were opposed to slavery became Republicans. And those more numerous Whigs who supported slavery became Democrats. But most of the country supported liberty and got behind the brand new Republican Party.

Come on, for all intents John McCain is not only a Democrat but a staunch Democrat and were he to join the party where he really belongs, he’d be a great Democratic Party leader. The Dems could really use a John McCain and I’d be happy to see him go.

Alan Specter a Republican? That’s like calling Lucifer an Archangel If we pretend for a moment that we have the Republican Party of Lincoln.
How about G.W. Bush? Lincoln would not recognize G.W. as a member of the Republican Party. So why should we?

It is high time for another reorganization and/or rebellion.

WE DO NOT NEED A THIRD PARTY. Is there any way I can say that loud enough to ward off those of you who are going to charge off and write responses about the foolishness of third parties? I say again. WE DO NOT NED A THIRD PARTY. WE NEED A NEW PARTY!

We need a party dedicated to liberty and opposed to enslavement. Those of us who love liberty can join the new party. And as usual those who support tyranny and enslavement can remain/become Democrats.

Is there any doubt in the minds of you who are rational, thinking human beings that the Republican Party is NOT the party of those who love liberty? The Republican Party is hardly distinguishable from the Democratic Party. Sure, sure there are still a few distinctions in the written platforms of each party. But what separates Republicans from Democrats in practice? Not much. And I say, “Not enough!”.

WE NEED A NEW PARTY!

Regarding illegal immigration:
The real reason our current President and Congress support illegal immigration is because 4 out of every 10 citizens is a government employee. Government workers love illegal immigrants because they mask the fact that there are so many government workers.

There are not enough private sector workers to sustain economic growth. Without loads and loads of illegal immigrants filling the gaps, the reality of the situation would quickly become apparent.

The last thing the public-sector unions want you to find out is that 40% of the population is tied up being government workers and are essentially taken out of the economic equation leaving the economy to suffer from an acute shortage of private sector workers.

The government workers are the only group whose jobs are not threatened by illegal immigrants. It is wonderful for them if you think about.
Without illegal immigrants, you would realize that about 40% of your income is being confiscated by the more than 100,000 governments we have in this country – more than any other on the planet. The 100,000 governments figure includes all the city, county and state governments with the federal government counting as just one government.

Illegal immigration is NECESSARY to sustain the most astoundingly huge and brilliantly concealed inveiglement in human history which is that 40% of the population is “employed” by the other 60% without the majority being the least bit bothered by being astronomically scammed.

I’ll bet government workers NEVER read Ann Coulter’s articles. In fact, I’ll bet they don’t even know who she is – unless their union leaders order them to protest a book of hers or call a talk show to jam the lines where she is appearing.

Bush
If open borders are good for the United States, why aren't they good for Iraq? Who kills more U.S. citizens each week, Iraq militants or illegal immigrants in the U.S.

I used to defend my vote for Bush by saying the alternative was Kerry, but now I wonder if it wouldn't have been better to have a president who openly dispised U. S. Citizens than one who does secretly. Bill D.

SAVE YOUR MONEY, CITIZENS.
If this shamnesty bill gets passed you can kiss all your contributions to Social Security good-bye.
That is the new 'American Dream'.
Save your money so instead of when you retire to a good life that you have worked for your entire adult life, maybe you won't have to eat out of garbage cans and soup kitchens at the local senior center.
I still have almost 20 years to go before I can get my full Social Security monthly benefit.
Do I believe it will be there?
No, I dont.
It will probably be replaced with some kind of program where I have to show up once a month, get a ticket punched and take coupons to some government ministry and get a handful of groceries.
Thank you President Bush.Thank you to all the other elected pieces of s##t.
Oh, and Ms. Coulter, kinda late to the party, ain't'cha?
I asked you where your outrage was on this very matter about a year ago.

Need facts on Ramos and Campeon
The Ramos and Campeon prosecution is one of the blackest marks against this administration. But somehow I feel I don't have the whole story.

I appreciate Ann's use of parody, but she mixes it up so much with the facts of the Ramos and Campeon story that it's difficult to tell which is which.

Did they really need permission to exceed the speed limit?

Anyone have a weblink that tells the whole story?

Illegal Amnesty
One of the biggest arguments for giving illegal aliens amnesty is "they take jobs Americans won't do." If we give them amnesty and make them Americans, then they won't take those jobs either. Right?

Come on!
Jeez Ann, how are we supposed to get our drugs if you don't let them cross the border?

Who Is Stupid?
W got my vote for president both times. I believe in the GWOT to defend the US so much I volunteered for recall to active duty (retired Army Special Forces) and am at Camp Victory, Iraq right now.

W lost my support with this amnesty sellout.

However, to call President Bush stupid, or any politician stupid whether liberal or conservative, is -- well STUPID!

By implying that someone you disagree with does not have the mental capacity to understand his actions -- you are disarming yourself. Why fight back from a weakened position. Do you truly believe that politicians do not know exactly what they are doing? Grow up.

Let’s face this for what it is. The president and the congress, Republican and Democrat, are willing to hand this country over to _______ for _______ ? You fill in the blanks and then act accordingly. Is this our country or theirs?

We Have the DailyKos Talking Point!
This is about the 10th time I have seen the "Berlin Wall=Border Wall" argument.

I think we have identified the current DailyKos talking point!

By the way: Big difference between enforcing a border to keep law breakers out and building a wall to trap people in a totalitarian dictatorship. So this comparison is not exactly a valid one.

Bush's Border Fiasco
You are my hero! You are smart and sexy! I agree with you and think my Uncle Teddy k. slipped something in Bush's Shirley Temple! I left the Democratic party, but can't chang listings until after the 2007 elections. I have always been a Conservative and was first a Republican during my USAF (69-73)Service. I was an F-111A Crew Chief, Mobility NCO, and Wing Avionics Production Controller at Nellis AFB, outside Las Vegas. I have designed weapons gratis for the DOD etc since 1970. I think McCain's joke about the Beachboys song "Bomb Iran" is appropriate for the scum sucking terror state. I'll do all I can to barbeque at Mach Speeds! Some of us remain committed,like you, to keep
America safe and free from invasions from any place....Love and Kisses..Grandmaster Ro Wa-Ken Tal Kung-Fu 5 Forms

no more republicans
Illegals only benefit Republicans?

Maybe you forgot how a whole mess of "new citizens" allowed Boxer to win her seat? I think Ted the Swimmer supports this for a reason, and not to win brownie points with Republicans.

Think you may want to check the voting breakdown of Mexican Americans, and you may notice there is a possible motive for Democrats to support amnesty as well.

This column should be required reading
for George.

There'd have to be someone to help him with the big words, though.

I voted twice for the moron as well.

no mroe republicans part 2
So, who won the cold war then?

Gorby? Jimmy "Killer Bunny" Carter? Ted the Swimmer?

Come on! Reagan's strategy worked. Time you finally admitted it.

Oh wait
I know your answer! Communism just "happened to end" right after Reagan bankrupted them with escalating military spending. Nothing to do with Reagan at all.

His support for dissidents and military programs did nothing to stop it. Just a coincidence.

Ante-up
I'm upping the ante. No amnesty until the border is secure (preferably a 2000 mile fence), AND pardoning of Ramos, Compean, and Hernandez. Not only that, I may write-in Ramos and Compean from POTUS & VEEP. Nevermind, if I a WASP, were to vote for Ramos and Compean I would be called a Racist for singling out these two Hispanic heroes for special consideration, er, which would be construed as profiling and that's wrrronggg.


Impeach Bush, it is time.
Bush has earned the right to be impeached for violations of our Constitution and for his viloations against American Citizens. When a President puts the affairs of those in other country's over the affairs of the people in his own, then he is no longer upholding his duties as President. It is clear with Iraq, it is clear with Mexico.

Impeach Bush. Let us not allow him to tarnish the conservative name any longer.

no more republicans
"Reagan didn't win anything"... I love it when Leftist nitwits like you expose your ignorance by saying the absolute STUPIDEST things!

You must be forgetting the 84 elections, in which he won all but one out of fifty states! That one, of course, being the Leftist Nirvana known as Massachusetts! Any place that would elect Ted Kennedy, John Kerry and Barney Frank, AND pick Mondale over Reagan in '84... well suffice to say that I have my reasons for being terribly suspicious of Mitt Romney! Apart from Dean Barnett and the '86 Red Sox (God bless you, Bill Buckner!), has anything worthwhile come out of that h3llhole? I ask you!

But I digress. NMR, your points are laughable, and I urge you to keep it up. Keep right on doing what you're doing; you do more for Conservatism in your own special (or is that Special Ed?) way than I ever could. God bless your little pea brain!

*sings like Shrillary* "I can't wait for 2008!"

"Impeachment"???? Good lord...
... As disgusted as I am by the Shamnesty bill, I am just as revolted by Conservatives jumping on the Impeachment Bandwagon.

NOTE TO ALL THE IMPEACHMENT JOHNNY-COME-LATELIES: Impeachment is for crimes. You don't get to impeach someone for political disagreements. This is, in fact, one of the things that makes this country great: the fact that, unlike so many other places in so many other points in history, being on the losing end politically does NOT mean the guillotine (or the noose, or the axe, or whatever). To those conservatives who are jumping on this bandwagon, I understand your frustration. But keep in mind the principles that make us better than Leftists. One is the notion of Fair Play, another is the ideal of disagreeing while remaining civil.

George's ideas with regard to Immigration are repellent, no question. But he is allowed to have them, and we elected him, so we have to endure him. Besides, as long as we keep up the political pressure and the noise, Shamnesty won't pass. If it does, we have no one to blame but ourselves for not keeping the pressure on. McCain thought he could make it sail through the first time; we proved him wrong once, we can do it again, despite the Lindsey Grahams and Arlen Specters of the party. Be of good cheer.

And again: impeachment of Bush is a ludicrous notion, whether for the conduct of the war (which has been entirely within the bounds of the powers prescribed by, variably, the Constitution, statute, or precedent, and thus defensible under the Law) or for the Immigration bill.

Using impeachment as a political weapon is low and unworthy. Those of us on the Right who are feeling the temptation to join in such idiocy should hang our heads in shame.

Gabby

Dick Cheney is Pres. Bush's "insurance policy" against impeachment.

My theory on Ron Paul
... is that all the people who keep saying we should look at Ron Paul are closet Leftists, who have this ludicrous notion that they can pull votes away from whoever the front-runner is by blaring this distraction.

I have no evidence of this, of course, except for the fact that the idea of Ron Paul as a serious candidate (in the sense of a candidate who has ANY real chance at winning) is as laughable as Hillary's claims to believe in free markets. Ron Paul may or may not be a fine man, but he is so far out of the mainstream that it requires a lunatic, a moron, or outright liar to claim that he is a serious candidate (sorta like the classic Christian "lunatic, liar, or Lord" formulation). I see no indications that Gabby (just for example) is either crazy or a drooler, so I conclude that he is a Leftist shill playing at being a Libertarian for the purposes of sabotage.

Just my own private theory.

Rights & Privileges U.S. citizens
From the US Constitution, AmendtVI.: "In all criminal [says nothing of civil -or political -or hate, & don't say it can't happen here, it already has] prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence." From the US Declaration of Independence: "He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their acts of pretended legislation". Also, from The Declaration- "For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury". Again, The Declaration- "For transporting us beyond seas to be tried for pretended offenses." It is a long way to THE HAGUE.

Don't Relent Ann
Ann's is on her game as usual. There's no sanity left in our government. We're prosecuting law enforcement for doing their jobs well and rewarding drug runners. It doesn't get anymore insane than that.

Other than Joe Leiberman, and a handful of others, it's rare to hear anything intelligent, or sincere, come out of the mouth of a politician. They wonder why we don't trust them.

Tom Delay resigns for a baseless prosecution that was thrown out of court and William Jefferson gets a promotion. Jefferson even has a group in New Orleans trying to save him (he's such a good man). More insanity. Don't even get me started on Scooter Libby. How do we ever get real criminals prosecuted?

Now the President we conservatives elected to protect our values and way of life is doing everything in his power to surrender the country to an invasion by foreigners. The collective wisdom of this nation cannot figure out why he wants to do that. The man is left of Hugo Chavez and that's about as insane as it gets for me.


Andrews & my gals, Lynne and Peppermint
I know you have a great time dismembering NMR and his ilk, but remember, if you give a childish person too much attention, you're just enforcing his childishness. Even if NMR is not in his/her early college years, the sound coming out carries the wisdom of someone who has discovered a couple of "dirty little secrets" that were too scary to investigate back home.

Sometimes, posters like NMR, Soothsayer, and that simpleton, KnowKnownothing, should just enjoy their wet dreams and leave actual sex to the adults. (OK, OK, I'm being a bit bizarre, but I thought they would get a thrill out of it.)

abstract world
Who created this fiasco Salvatore Dali, this is nuts

jmag

It was M.C. Escher. I think a work of his called "Relativity" says it all.

Tangles Web
"OH WHAT A TANGLED WEB WE WEAVE. WHEN FIRST WE PRACTICE TO DECEIVE!" Sir Walter. This scamnesty bill is deception-lies-tricks-dishonest-misleading-cheating- unwise or childish actions-untrue statements-untrustworthy-disgraceful-shamful-mistaken beliefs-foolish hopes-recklessness-false-disloyal-fake- shamless-a sham-countfeit-imitation-disorder-destruction to America . Scamnesty bill defination (a thing that is not really what is pretended==to change or treat in a way that gives a false effect .) On AMNESTY It seems.....
There is a major disconnect between the folks that live with the problem daily and the folks who live in Washington DC and talk about the problem daily

You don't get it
You see, Ann, we need more people like drug dealers. They are people who are actually doing something. unlike you, which all you do is write.

DEAR ANN!!!!!
I thought you are good. Was I wrong!!!!
You are the best! The rest of writers seem to be just "urinalists", hoping to be invited to Lincoln Bedroom....by not telling the whole, or, in case of Klinton, "hole" truth...

Atty Sutton argued (somebody hold me, please!!)that it's not true that the mex criminal was arrested for the second time...
YES SUTTON! He was caught the second time with a load of drugs and you did NOT arrest him!

NICE GOVMT WE HAVE!!!

Another setback
for the Dems. Fox is reporting that the SC has ruled on the Teacher Union case and the Union can not spend teachers contributions on political activity without permission from the teacher.

Hal Donahue - another "brilliant" lib
^^^"Bush won't build a wall and he keeps prosecuting law enforcement officers who stop illegal border crossers."

Wait a moment dear. The wall around Berlin and for that matter the old East Germany sure helped them and worked. THAT SAID, Ann has come a long way from Ronnie's: "Tear down this wall" to the conservatives cowering and screaming build a wall. Sad very sad^^^



GAWD!

And these people vote!

Hey idiot!
The East German wall was built to keep people from LEAVING communist East Germany, moron. Not to keep people from getting IN ILLEGALLY; bringing with them God knows what, keeping wages low, clogging US emergency rooms, causing chaos in US classrooms, and generally sucking off the big government teat, because their own country stinks so badly! Gawd, I sure hope you're too stoned to remember to vote, jackass.

Walls can be different Hal
Hal doesn't get the fact that walls can be different.

The difference between the Berlin Wall and a border wall is the difference between having a dungeon in your home, and installing doors and windows.

It's immoral to imprison someone. It's common sense to lock your door to prevent someone entering your home uninvited.

But thats apparently too deep a concept for the open border shills.

P.S.
It's not really a wall that conservatives want built, so much as we want the border to our great nation, which we love, monitored and secured. Simple, really. Without a border, it's not a country. And hey, check out Mexico's rules and regs re: violating their border. Shouldn't the US at least be allowed to respond in kind?

Just come here legally. That's all conservatives are asking for.

If you want to take action,
then do two things. First visit my website,
JOEOLIVAFORPRESIDENT.ORG.

Second, vote for me on election day and I will IMMEDIATELY do four things:

1. Fire US Attorney Johnny Sutton
2. Grant a full pardon to Ignacio Ramos
3. Grant a full pardon to Jose Compean
4. Grant a full pardon to Gilmer Hernandez

After that, I will begin the implementation of my Campaign Platform which is published on the website to begin the restoration of the Constitution, rule of law, and will of the people as the principles by which we govern ourselves as a free people, and the recaiming of our birthright, which has been stolen from us.

Since Ann's columns create a lot of posts, I'll keep it to this. Visit the site, you will not be disappointed. Thanks, Joe

Hal Donahue -- two quick questions
Do you have locks on your home's doors?

If so, how can you live with your own utter, abject, contemptible hypocrisy?

The disgusting inside
story about this bill over at Right Wing news. Answers from a Senate insider. It will make you want to puke.

http://www.rightwingnews.com/

Enough with the "I" word
Ann's column is bitingly brilliant as usual. While Bush is making a terrible error in judgement, the threshhold for impeachment hasn't been met. It is interesting that Republicans will call for their guy to be held accountable for his actions, while the Dem's guys and gals could speak out publicly against their country in a time of war and endanger our troops by giving aid and comfort to our enemies and they would still call him their guy. What a stark contrast. Think I'm wrong, where is the rhetoric from Dems distancing themselves from congressman William Jefferson, Democrat, Louisiana?

Worst assault on citizens by illegals
THE WORST Assault on US citizens by illegal criminal Aliens is that they BUY stolen identities (YOURS OR THOSE OF YOUR CHILDREN) and destroy the lives of those US law abiding citizens.

THEN USA citizens, the tax payers are fleeced by paying 40,000 per year to educate their kids.

THEN US citizens, who have paid their medical insurance HAVE to wait and perhaps die in overcrowded EMERGENCY ROOMS, waiting for treatment because the illegals are loading up the emergency rooms with a cough.

THE LIST GOES ON AND ON AND ON:

THIS INVASION OF ILLEGALS into the USA is a price we can no longer afford.

EVERYONE must ask 10 people to tell 10 people they must write every congressman or woman and the PRESIDENT and make a call and send an email every day until they "GET IT" right.

NO ONE CAN breathe until this disaster bill is
dead forever and until WE SEE THE FENCE and UNTIL WE see enforcement.

IN PORTLAND OREGON, the DEM MAYOR and DEM GOV.
and the CATHOLIC CHURCH sided with the illegals who STOLE the identities of USA citizens and THESE illegals DESTROYED the lives of those they impersonated after they invaded our country and after they fleeced the taxpayer to support their 4-5 kids, wives, etc.

1. WHERE do these destitute illegals get the
1,500 per person 5,000 per family to pay
smugglers to get here?

2. WHERE do these destitute illegals get the
1,500 - $2,000 to BUY stolen identities from
Americans selling these stolen documents

are people like GEORGE SOROS
funding this illegal invasion of our country ? You think?


Why blame BUSH
1. congress_senate make the laws pass the bills

The President only gets to sign or veto them but can lobby for or against

WHY GIVE the 100% DEM worthless congress a free pass: THIS IS TEDDY, McCain bill they wrote it and promoted it:

2. the 9-11 terrorists where here compliments of the Clintons:

3. THIS IS OUR country, everyone who does NOT vote does NOT make the calls, does not write the letters, or send the emails or REPORT illegals to ICE (not your local law enforcement) is as guilty for the illegal criminal problem.

4. THE SLUTS and NUTS especially HOLLYWEIRD
are the DRUG USERS. THEY are to blame too.

5. THE mayors who have declared their cities sanctuary MUST all be recalled and or charged with crimes against the citizens and tried for treason: THEY HARBOR the illegal criminal invaders.

LETS all be fair and honest about this and other problems in this nation.

EVEN ANN needs to stick to strict facts:
Anyone can bash, trash, and peddle hate:

we the Independent conservatives are fed up with both sides.

Left
If we agree with Bush, we are blind followers.

If we disagree with Bush, we are "turning on him".

You can't have it both ways, left wingers. Speaking only for myself, I voted for the guy, and I agree with him maybe 75% of the time. We're allowed to have our own minds, you know.

Which reminds me, I am appalled that these Border Patrol guys are in legal trouble for doing their jobs. Maybe if some more guys would shoot drug dealers, they'd stop coming.

Walls
For all you morons who keep equating this with the Berlin Wall, do you notice it's only on the southern border? If we were so desperate to trap Americans in this "awful" country, wouldn't we have to fence off Canada as well?

I've been to overseas embassies and seen throngs waiting in line for hours to apply for U.S. citizenship.

And in another news flash, you can leave the U.S. anytime you want, as long as you have a passport. Nobody is making you stay here in the U.S., least of all me. So please put away the Berlin Wall argument - it just makes you sound stupid.

stick to documented FACTS FOLKS

FACT MINNESOTA was the ONLY state to
vote against Reagan.

NOT MA.

I know, I lived there for 60 years.

STICK TO FACTS FOLKS.

LIBERALS are experts at exaggeration, distortion, fabrication, hate peddling and telling lies about their lies.

Lame Duck President..
Ann,

I got to give it to you. You were right on th e money with Bush. The worst president in our history is desperate to get something accomplished by the time he leaves office. Bush has always been in favor of pleasing big corporations, and why would granting amnesty to millions of illegals be any different. Corporations can keep wages down as they pay minimum salaries to workers. This immigration bill is just as stupid as Bush's idea to nominate Harriet Myers as Attorney General, or Alberto Gonzales for that matter. It astonishes me how clueless Bush is on all mattters. In eight years Bush has failed at every attempt to better America. His no child left behind is a disaster and disservice to our children. The war is a mess and now our military is stuck there for at least another three years unless we just totally withdraw troops regardless of the consequences. The Iraqi governmnent refuses to work together - and according to General Petreas without political involvement and unity, the whole process will be a failure. Bush was so adamant about Social Security - now a dead in the water topic along with many other ideas from this President. Now we are faced with 12-20 million illegals getting amnesty while other immigrants from other nations go through the process legally and are still facing difficult challenges to acquire access to our great nation. The immigration bill is amnesty - nothing else. The rate were going we will never have a secure border fence with ample border guards and law enforcement. other nations must laugh at us for our congressional and presidential incompetence to accomplish the most basic challenges facing our country.

RON Paul is UN American
RON PAUL needs to run for President of a
Terrorist controlled country:

HE blames 50 years of terrorist attacks around the WORLD on the USA

Anyone who cannot support the country he wants to lead and to be honest about its history
NEEDS TO GO DO STUPID SOMEWHERE ELSE.

I blame Bush because..
He accepted and swore an oath to protect and defend the nation against all enemies, foreign or domesticate, and execute the laws of these United States.

I still see the Board of Directors of Tyson Farms not in jail.

ah spelling
*domestic

Sound Barriers - sound idea
Let's put up the sound barriers suggested in the earlier post. Only, let's put up two, parallel to each other and about 50 feet apart. Then let's mine the land in the middle and see how effective that can be.

This is not a Berlin wall - that was used to enslave people within the country. We are using this wall to keep the Mexican invasion out.

Then let's deport them. As I read on Townhall previously - "We can do it, Mexico did!".

B2slim
I always thought it was Mass. and DC who voted for Mondale. I didn't know Minnesota was the lone holdout; thanks for the clarification.

Either way, he got over 500 electoral votes (at least in 1984), but still, it's good to know the facts.

RIGHT ON.
Leave to the lady to say what needed to be said.:) Right on Anne:)

Ann
That first paragraph is great! LOL

How do we get in on this?
How hard is it to gain citizenship in Mexico? Because, in this day and age, it appears better to lose American citizenship, become Mexican, waltz (or break dance... it's more interesting for the boarder patrol agents to watch on the infrared cameras) back up North. Especially if you are poor. If you make minimum wage this makes a lot of sense. You would no longer need to pay taxes, worry about medical, and if a boarder agent tries to perform his job upon you, you get paid. If one whips out a gun on you while you're trying to step over the wooden pole or bend under the rusty fencing along the boarder, then just bend over. I'd personally draw a target on the back of my pants, and follow the example of the Mexican unliscensed pharmacist (Sowell mentioned that term in one of his columns, though it was funny).

chopperjohn, most excellent post.
You said, "Sometimes, posters like NMR, Soothsayer, and that simpleton, KnowKnownothing, should just enjoy their wet dreams and leave actual sex to the adults. (OK, OK, I'm being a bit bizarre, but I thought they would get a thrill out of it.)"

You probably got them going for sure! I believe these posters thrive on negative attention because it is most likely the ONLY attention they get (with the exception of the kind they give to themselves...) Add 'baudrunner' to the list as well.

B2slim
Thank you for the correction... mea culpa. In my own defense, I grew up near the leftist wasteland of Taxachusetts, so my thinking tends to be colored. But I will accept your correction, because it makes sense: Fritzy hailed from MN, which has so helpfully also provided us with Hubert Humphrey, Paul Wellstone (*gag*; RIP, you bearded Bolshevik) and, most recently Al Franken. The simple fact that THAT Leftist joke finds Minnesota a fine place to live should tell us all we need to know.

Thank you for your posts; I couldn't agree more with the sentiments you have presented today if I were twins.

Immigration
Ann,
All of these supporters of the SHAMNESTY BILL should be made to take at least a few hundred illegals home with them and support without any tax breaks then see how long they stay.

P.S.Bush has a big ranch in Texas.He should be able to take several thousand.

Immigration reform. It's simple.
1. Seal the border.

2. Enforce the existing laws.

Barry

NO MO USA
GOP SAID: FOOK THE BASE
,...and let's go aFter mexes, who will vote for dems......

TO CALL IT "STUPIDITY" OR "UTTER IDIOCY" WOULD BE A GROSS UNDERSTATEMENT

Haircuts and Blogs
Sister Ann, I like everything but the haircut. The prom queen do has to go, as you head into your 50's and beyond.

There are about 4500 blogs on TH, and looking for a truly good one can be something like looking for a diamond in a landfill. I'm taking a look at ALL of them (which is not quite as awesome a task as it sounds, since about 75% of them are inactive). Every Saturday and Sunday, I'll feature 2-3 of them and tell you why they're worth reading. I'm especially interested in blogs that don't just recite the same old slogans we all "know and love" (sorta).

If a blog is part of an individual's "anger mangement" therapy, I tend to avoid it. Instead, I'm searching for new insights, new information, and new uses of technology. This weekend (Saturday a.m. and Sunday a.m.) and every weekend thereafter, I'm going to feature three blogs, which will be:

http://kelleysblog.townhall.com (a new one by a Townhall intern)
http://midnightbluesays.blogspot.com (linked to Townhall site of same name)
http://scrappleface.townhall.com (a feisty and very funny site)

Scrapple's most recent piece is titled "Poll: Majority Say Paris Hilton's Plight Good for America." Also, he recommends for certain Mormon candidates a "don't ask, don't tell policy." A funny man is our Scrapple.

I'll explain why these blogs are worth your time visiting -- and re-visiting.

All three of these bloggers are from PA. Next weekend will be New Jersey bloggers, and after that the ever-popular Ohio. If you're not in those three states, relax, your turn will come.

steve


If you'd like to recommend a blog that you've found especially useful, leave me a comment on my blog (http://camp2008victory.townhall.com) or send me an e-mail at TalkTop65@aol.com.

Assimilation of Aliens
As I have read the post of many articles these past few years, it is apparent that assimilation begins at home. Before we can hope to assimilate 12-20 million illegal aliens we must first assimilate the 75-150 million legal leftist masquerading as loyalist liberal constitutional citizens.

AzPhil
Ann could say water was wet and The Daily Kos Water Carriers (NMR, Fowl Donahue, Soothsayer and KnowNothingNimrod) would start screeching their Daily Propaganda.

Paraphrasing:
George W. Bush hath no fury like Ann Coulter scorned!

ILLEGALS! CRIMINALS COME HERE!!!!
YES!! come to bush's ranch - HE LOVES YOU!!!! yeah, right ;)
(LIKE PRO-HOMELESS SINGERS/ACTORS, WHO KICK 'EM OUT OF THEIR PROPERTIS, E.G. COLLINS)

Berlin
Hal:

I am sure others have pointed this out but I will again. When I have finally had it with this country and decide to leave it, no one will stop me. If I go to the State Department tomorrow to renounce my citizenship--they will advise me to make sure I gain citizenship in another country first, but they will not object to my giving up US citizenship.

In East Germany, they didn't allow their citizens to leave. They claimed it was to protect East Germany from "fascists" in the west, but it was there to keep them in, not others out.

The US like any normal country has the right to protect its borders and the right to decide who gets to come in and who must stay out. This is not the same as the Berlin Wall and to compare a fence to keep out illegal aliens to the Berlin Wall makes you look like the idiot you probably are. Do you have locks on your doors? A fence around your yard? I have both--guess I am a member of the Stasi huh?

You don't get to impeach a president for
You don't get to impeach a president for...political disagreements?

Really? Tell that to Andrew Johnson...recall something called the Tenure of Office Act?

Georgetwin/AzPhil
No Ann would never say that water is wet it makes sense and does not incite people. She is a firestarter nothing else.

Oh I seldom read KOS

Akagi
One of the big things we used to brag about was our miles of undefended borders and free people. Now we want to cower (that is the correct word I think) behind walls. That is no change? This is a "problem" only since Bush came into power. Why? He did not prosecute businesses who hired illegals.... That is what opened the flood gates and that might close them. We are not All that free what happens if you decide to visit Cuba? We have freedoms but we better fight for them every day especially with this current regime...

enemaofthestatusquo-
Hear Hear! And a giant AMEN to that-
Well said!

I love the column but am heartsick behind the truth of it.


Hal
This is why I don't listen to Leftists: y'all have this determined streak of historical ignorance.

Example:

"One of the big things we used to brag about was our miles of undefended borders and free people."

Really? See, I remember a lot of bragging as well about the fact of never having had a terrorist attack on American soil.

'nother example:

"Now we want to cower (that is the correct word I think) behind walls."

Actually that's not the correct word; it's an inflammatory word that is immaterial to the topic at hand (which is par for the course from Leftists attempting to argue from history). But I digress...

"That is no change? This is a "problem" only since Bush came into power."

Amazing. I must have made up or hallucinated all the memories I have about discussions about the right of America to defend her own borders twenty years or so, the last time this topic came across the desk.

This problem is nothing new; the only thing it has to do with W. is that he has proven himself entirely opposed to the sentiments of at least 4 out of 5 Republicans, and, at last count, nearly 3 out of 5 Democrats.

But I'll tell you what, there is something even more craven than "cowering" behind a wall, and far more idiotic than your standard-issue Leftist historical revisionism: the (also standard-issue) Leftist tendency to attack Bush at the drop of a hat, even when he is on their side on an issue.

Every day, I keep hoping for a Leftist to provide me with an example to demonstrate that they are not, in fact, the scum of the earth. Every once in a while, the Universe throws me a bone on this, but most days, I go to bed both disappointed and more convinced as to the basic proposition than I was when I woke up that morning.

FERGUS
ROFL!
I'm singing along with you brother!!

Yet again
Two comments, again.
1. Here again, as almost everywhere I go on TH, I run into Shameless Self-Promoting Steve, who starts his post with an adolescent insult for the columnist who's writing he is not responding to, and then launches into his tired old self-promotion. Am I the only one who is tired of this silliness.

2 For the person who wrote, "EVEN ANN needs to stick to strict facts:
Anyone can bash, trash, and peddle hate:"
What is the difference between a "fact" and a "strict" fact? And, why is it that whenever a conservative employs sarcastic humour as a means of criticising self-styled "liberal" silliness, said conservative is accused of "peddling hate?"

let them stay for now
I have a suggestion. Let the 12 million illegals stay on the condition that President Bush, the Senate, the House of Reps, and certain members of the Supreme Court are immediately deported to Mexico -- or better yet, Venezuela.

Here here !
"Illegal aliens might want to rethink Bush's amnesty plan. The only Hispanics Bush seems to prosecute are the ones who are law-abiding U.S. citizens."

Bush should be impeached for his many acts of treason agaisnt America. I know he's lying when I see his lips move.

No amnasty! No immigration bill! No Rockerfeller Republicans!

craigers
I can't tell if you are a Leftist parody of a conservative, or the real deal; if the latter, then I am ashamed that someone as obviously ignorant and shallow in his thinking as you should remotely represent my side of the ideological aisle.

Please do the Right a favor and acquire some sort of education on history, law, spelling, and the meaning of words like "treason" before spouting off again.

Ann's Right on but didn't tell all
This travesty of justice is just unacceptable. They prosecuted and railroaded Compean and Ramos and this is what she left out. The Department of Homeland Security, when finally forced to turn over there investigation reports, were caught in a lie. That lie was that there were several supervisors and other agents on the scene after the debaucle. The supervisors were the ones who decided to not file any reports. After this a Border Agent in Texas got a call from her childhood friends (The drug runner that was shot) Grandmother in Mexico. This was reported, not the fact that a Border Agent was a know associate of drug runner, and that is when Johnny Sutton got involved.
He went to Mexico and located this drug runner and offered him immunity, legal status, and free medical care if he would testify and help convict Compean and Ramos. He aggreed and was brought back. After surgery, Sutton(I believe), broke the chain of evidence and took the bullet home with him. Sutton stated that the doctor said that the smuggler was shot in the back-but it was later discovered in the DHS report that the first doctor stated that Compeans and Ramos's account of him running at an angle trying to shoot at them was correct as the trajectory of the bullet supported this. Secondly, Sutton stated that the Ballistic's report stated that the bullet (which left the chain of evidence) was identified as comming from Ramos or Compean's gun....What it said is that it came from one of several different types of guns not from the accused guns.
Also found out later is that the agents that were there the night of the incident were threatned and made to testify for the Prosecution or lose there jobs (which they lost months later anyway) so that Sutton could say they did not follow the standards set for a discharge of a firearm by the Border patrol. This was disputed in the DHS report.
Johnny Sutton lied on every account. It is true what Ann said about the drug smuggler getting caught before the trial with another load of drugs, and he was offered immunity on that too, just so Sutton could railroad two heroic gentlemen trying to keep this county safe and doing there job. He lied in court (purjury), he lied to the American public and the DHS stated they had misled us all and allowed Sutton to continue knowing he was lieing.
Congress also drafted a letter by a lot of members asking the President to Pardon Compean and Ramos after the deception by both parties was uncovered. And what did the President do? Nothing! And the reason for that is if he pardons them in the light of lies he discourages more illegals from comming here and damages his chance for his scamesty bill to get passed. Damages his chances to get the New World Order up and started and get the Radio Frequency Identifiey Chips (RFID) up and running so we can all be tracked day and night forever. Those of us who believe in the Bible can see where thats going to lead up. We'll be the chipped pets running around in their yard.
For the full stories on the Compean and Ramos's Travesty of Justice go the Center for Individual Freedoms (CFIF) web site and they should have the archived stories there. Scott in PA asked for more information on this issue.

Craigers
Go ahead with impeachment. At least with Cheney, we'd have someone who would build the fence.

Hypothetical Question
Assume Hill gets the nod from her party and is their pres. candidate, and the next three items were absolute truths--

1. She would promote her communist agenda with full vigor.

2. She will completely seal the border, and start deporting law breakers who don't belong here.

3. You don't have even close to that assurance on 2. with the Republican Candidate.

Would you vote for her?

I am truly curious how defining of an issue others see this for our generation.

Donahue
Wrote: "That is no change? This is a "problem" only since Bush came into power. Why? He did not prosecute businesses who hired illegals...."

Great instance of liberals' general inability to reason clearly.

Did any predecessor of Bush's prosecute business who hired illegals? No? Then that can't possibly be the difference between what's happening now and what was happening before Bush took office. QED.

So, why are we insisting on a wall now? Hmmm... let's see... did anything happen since Bush took office that highlighted the need to control who comes into our country? I dunno... lemme think... nothings coming to mind... Oh, wait. YES! I think maybe there WAS something like that! Didn't somebody from outside the country come in and attacks some really big buildings or something like that?

You incredible FOOL, the insistence on border control is a consequence of the WORLD TRADE CENTER ATTACKS.

How hard is that?

Idiot.

IGoCommando
For me, the answer to your question is not "No," but "HELL no."

Under no circumstance that doesn't include a gun to my head or the equivalent would I ever cast a vote for that incredible witch.

Yes, I recognize that a continued flood of illegals constitutes slow death for America; but Hillary constitutes QUICK death for everything that makes America worthwhile, especially essential liberties -- freedom of the press, freedom of religion, economic liberty, private property rights, etc.

It's like offering me a choice between daily, small doses of nicotine and an immediate, huge dose of strychnine. Given the possibility that I might be able to change my diet after a while, anything that lets me live a while longer is better than just flat-out poisoning myself to death in one shot.

Stupidos
Hal:

Travel to Cuba has been banned or restricted since Esienhower. So that is some 49 or 48 years or so. The undefended border is in reference to Canada, not Mexico and the US has for decades had at least some sort of barriers--but the barriers are in disrepair and have been in many cases damaged by drug runners, illegal aliens, the Mexican Army, etc. So the current fence proposal is to build double fencing across the most "popular" crossing points. A demo fence in the San Deigo sector greatly reduce illegal crossings there.

I don't consider my fence as cowering or my locked doors--they are there to keep people I don't want in, out. Same goes for national fences.


Hillary
I would never vote for her but I may never vote for the GOP again either.

Oh if you read this stuff Isackson and Saxby...be sure I will always vote against you two losers.

Roadkill
Get a clue dude. Presidents don't grant amnesty - Congressman and Senators do!

Really Roadkill?
Your right but you forgot that the President can put undue pressure on congress to get what he wants..as is evident by his statement-See you at the signing. So he may not fully enact the bill-well he doesnt enact it-but he can make sure that it gets done. If you have the Secret Service at your disposal and can monitor evey member of congress under the terror bill....dont you think you would have some dirt to turn up the pressure on memebers of congress? I guarentee it happens..just not where we can see it..LOL...No one is above the law but all government and police. This nation has gone to hell. Can we save it?

Bush offers to do his job?


Presidential candidate Duncan Hunter on the Lou Dobbs show asked why do we need to pass a bill for the Bush to do his sworn job? And why he is the President using a sworn duty as a bargaining cheap? Why would anyone trust Bush now?

MSNBC-WASHINGTON - President Bush, hoping to salvage immigration overhaul legislation, has agreed to an upfront infusion of money for federal border security efforts in a concession designed to win over skeptical conservatives.

Bush supports setting aside all the fees and penalties in the bill solely for tougher security on the border and workplace enforcement, White House press secretary Tony Snow said Thursday. The president on Monday morning will make the announcement of his backing for an amendment that two Republican senators have proposed to accomplish this end

READ MORE

http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/bush-offers-to-do-his-job


Bush Derangement Syndrome
It used to be that Bush Derangement Syndrome was the anger and outrage that Bush brought to the lefties.
Well now I appear to have caught it (and I'm no lefty.) Whenever I hear a recording of that stupid fool arrogantly saying "We'll see you at the signing" after this disgusting immigration bill was initially voted down, I want to punch a hole in my wall. Everytime I hear him say it, Bush is telling me and millions of others who supported and voted for him to go screw ourselves. I also find the Bush Derangement Syndrome kicking in when poor Tony Snow has to go on some talkshow and lie about how, this time, Bush is really going to close the border. Oh yeah.
However I think someone else has caught the syndrome: Bush himself. Because I believe this plan is such a catastrophe for both the country and the Republican party, that Bush himself must be deranged for wanting this to be his legacy.
No matter what, the American people must rise up and once again flush this bill down the toilet where it belongs.

Bigmick
I understand the differenec between a priosn wall and my fence, but I fear it may be lost of some of our co-readers. Well, you can't save 'em all.

Hal....
Ann
"Bush won't build a wall and he keeps prosecuting law enforcement officers who stop illegal border crossers."

Wait a moment dear. The wall around Berlin and for that matter the old East Germany sure helped them and worked. THAT SAID, Ann has come a long way from Ronnie's: "Tear down this wall" to the conservatives cowering and screaming build a wall. Sad very sad

Hal, you've managed to do it again. When are you going to admit that the Berlin Wall/Iron Curtain and the proposed border fence (wall) are for two completely different purposes. The Berlin Wall/Iron Curtain was built to stop the emptying of East Germany and East Berlin as the communists cemented their control, and the border fence is a means of gaining control over the flow of illegal aliens coming into this country.

Stop equating apples and oranges.

George I and George II
The Bush family has done more to harm Conservatism than the Liberal Left could ever hope to.The Bush family has set Conservatism back 30 years.Lets keep Jeb away from 1600.!!

No one asked for a new law!
We are kidding ourselves passing new legislation when no one ever tried enforcing the one passed in 86! Who, name them please, WHO asked that congress to craft new legislation?

Do you suppose we could transplant these "undeportables" to the fledgling Iraqi Republic, as an alternative. That way, the Islamists sneaking in amongst the others would feel at home and the new democracy will be blessed by all the extra citizens available to "perform the jobs Iraqi's don't want".

border patrol
Anne, your articles are so "right on". Please keep them coming...we couldn't get along without you.

Joy Wiseman, Scottsdale

Please build the freaking wall!
We need some rest from those who can't seem to go one freaking day without complaining about President Bush, the Republican's, amnesty, the freaking wall, and illegal immigrants. Give it a rest. How many ways can you say I hate illegal immigrants. Those on talk radio bore us to death for three hours a day saying nothing but I hate illegal illigrants. Not all American's are like those on talk radio, Lou Dodds, and those who say they speak for the American people on keeping the Republicans feet to the fire about illegal immigration. Stop already with the brain washing. We get it. You hate illegal immigrants. You want a wall or a fence. We understand. Give us a day of rest from the same old boring build the fence brainwashing propaganda. I can't tell the difference anymore in the attacks that come from the Democrats and those who say their Conservatives. President Bush hasn't lost his way, or has the Republicans. We have a new Conservative movement of self appointed people who think it's up to them to tell President Bush and the Republicans what to do. These so call Conservatives aren't like the rest of the Conservatives that are in the party. These new Conservatives who came to life after the November elections are the same one's who attacked the illegal immigrants months before the November elections and thought that was brilliant strategy. We lost the November elections thanks to these so call Conservatives and their stupid attacks on the illegal immigrants. Did these so call Conservatives apologize to the American people for losing the elections with such a poor strategy. Not at all, they blamed the lost of the elections on the Republicans for spending like drunken sailors. To make matters worst, these so call self appointed Conservatives are still using the same game plan they used to lose the November elections for the Republicans. Talk about shooting themselves in the foot twice. For you self appointed Conservatives who say it's what the people wants, it's what the American people wants. It's what you want, it's what talk radio wants, it's what Lou Dodds wants. I attended one of those rallies opposing the immigration bill. I saw nothing but skin heads, brown shirts with black armbands, atheist cursing God, protesters against the war calling for the death of our soldiers, and racist yelling and screaming to keep America white. This is the BASE you so call self appointed Conservatives say President Bush is ignoring?

Brilliant Commentary As Usual
Nothing infuriates me more than Bush's comment that "illegal immigrants are doing the work that most Americans won't do." Aren't most Americans fed up with the imbecilic comments coming out of Bush and most of Washington DC? It isn't rocket science to realize that if we were to close the border, reform welfare, and stop just half of all abortions we just might find all the unskilled and skilled workers we would ever need. Moreover, wouldn't closing the border also help to eliminate most of the drugs that handcuff the inner cities; which should have been eliminated through the so called, "War on Drugs" policies to begin with.

Immigration wouldn't be an issue IF
the 1986 "Comprehensive Immigration Bill" had been enforced as promised. Fooled once, but not again. It is understood that the 1986 bill was introduced by Kennedy who promised that it would be the last Amnesty bill he would bring before Congress. He lied.

This country is a republic, not an elected dictatorship. What ever happened to government by the people, for the peoplem, and of the people? We have spoken, but the Senate seems to be hard of hearing!

By the way, they are not illegal immigrants. They are illegal alliens. And labeling them as undocumented immigrants has been compared to saying a drug dealer is a unlicensed pharmacist.

Thanks, Ann. Good article.

Bush is NOT an American President
He is currently functioning as a Mexican President who happens to be living in America, and we're all getting a preview with all this corruption of what it's actually like to live in a banana republic. Bush may be auditioning for a major leadership position in the future North American Union for all we know. He's just paying his political dues - likely to some very powerful, wealthy, and highly influential corporate interests. This man is not functioning in America's interests; the responsible thing is for Congress to impeach this President, but we all know with the Liberal blithering idiots and the counterfeit conservative RINO's running the show, America's security is the last thing on their minds. It's all just wishful thinking. All we can do is run our freakin' mouths and waste our time writing these numbskulls we have elected. Even if Illegal Immigration never passes, the Talking Heads like Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh et al will act like it's some grand glorious conservative victory, but it will be no victory at all for the American People because the laws on the books will continue to be unenforced so what's the damn difference??? Until Congress impeaches this President for dereliction of his Constitutional duty to enforce the laws and until the Senate subsequently thereafter tries and convicts him, there will be no conservative victory for the American People despite however much the Talking Heads in talk radio will make it out to be so if this legislation never sees the light of day. That is to say, we no longer have government of, by, and for the People. The media have guaranteed that the American People will not be exposed to candidates without heavy corporate or union or special interest backing. The America people are in serious need of a new government and maybe even a new Constitution because the one we have has completely eliminated ANY power of the People to rein in TREASON and national suicide. The system by design is intentionally completely dysfunctional to rid the American People of any influence in the political process. It is political whoredom - politics for the highest bidder. The politicians and the legions of corrupt lawyers, many of whom are politicians themselves, have figured out that the Constitution can be intentionally abused and has many loopholes to allow corruption to enter the system and go completely unchecked and unfettered. These problems can not be fixed with our present Constitution's Amendment process which the politicians all know virtually allows them to carry on in their corrupt practices ad nauseum. The American Presidency is starting a new tradition of banana republic corruption in both parties as opposed to genuine statesmanship. First, there was 8 years of Clinton scandals; need I say more?!? Now there's Bush, a Compassionate Conservative??? man who has decided the government can be an even bigger welfare state than the Democrats ever thought it could be. He's a Democrat's Democrat. Bush has a let's-all-feed-the-world Jesus complex; he's a bleeding heart Liberal PC idiot, who probably goes to bed laughing every night at how he fooled the GOP into electing him for the promise of tax cuts. Bush just can't wait to welcome Hillary back into the White House in 2009; I wouldn't be surprised in the least if he's already made dinner plans with the Clintons.


Congress Must Investigate...
the border incident. It's time to utilize its subpoena powers to get to the root of this Bush administration's corruption. We need to expose who's behind this obvious corruption. Lobby Congress to get this started. Traitors must not be merely embarrassed; they must be annihilated. The useless idiots in Congress may never impeach this President because he's essentially a Democrat Liberal himself - a RINO, another useful idiot for the Dems - unless they happen to stumble on an impeachable offense while investigating the border incident. I bet they would find a gold mine of corruption if they dug sufficiently below the surface on this one. I smell a big rat!

BUSH IS A TRAITOR AND SO IS CONGRESS
Joyce writes: Friday, June, 15, 2007 4:44 AM

No Border Fence -North American Union

We know that no matter how much money Congress allocates for border security, it will never happen.

We know about the Superhighway and the North American Union.

We know that Congress is blackmailing the American public into passing this horrible Amnesty bill by holding the border fence hostage. If those turds had any intention of building that border fence, it would have already been built.

If they cared about the future of this nation, Congress would WANT to build it. But clearly they don't. There will never be a fence because it would defeat the whole purpose of their North American Union. A union Americans have NO interest in and will fight tooth and nail.

Congress is playing deadly games with us. And anyone who thinks they are sincere in any way, is naive beyond belief.

We must pay attention to what Congress does and DOESN'T DO... not what they SAY. Because talk is cheap.

Perhaps we will get illegals to do their job....they would do a better job at a much lower cost. Isn't that the theory?



Dwain likes to mis-quote
Gov. Romney's actual statement was "We need to make America more attractive for legal immigrants -- for citizens -- and less attractive for illegal immigrants." Dwain didn't even bother to quote the whole sentence. The main part of of his position is "We must reform the current immigration laws so we can secure our borders, implement a mandatory biometrically enabled, tamper proof documentation and employment verification system, and increase legal immigration into America."

Personally I like the first thing that he listed SECURE THE BORDER.

What would happen if Americans went to Mexico City to protest while carrying American flags? I'm not sure but it wouldn't be good.

Fences, walls, and other things.
White picket fence-designed to keep small dogs in, and young children out of your yard. Mostly works as intended, preventing

liability claims, broken legs/arms, small dog bites.

Chain link fence--designed to keep pesky teens out of your yard and house. Keeps medium sized pit bulls in. Mostly works as intended preventing theft, vandalism, etc.

Low slung block wall (6' or less)--designed to keep bigger dogs in, larger animals out(bears, deer, moose, etc.), and thugs,

thieves, and home invaders out. Mostly works as intended, unless criminal is vigorously determined, and typically on drugs.

High block wall (10'+)--designed to keep out thieves from office, industrial buildings typically needing higher form of

security. Mostly works as intended, with surveillance.

Berlin wall--designed to keep in all who were living under a communist regime during the cold war. Worked as intended, with

surveillance, many who were determined to escape failed, some succeeded in escape.

Wall of China--designed to keep masses of people/soldiers from invading northern China. Worked as intended, with

surveillance, country expanded northward from wall.

White House fence--designed to keep all who might do our president and nation harm. Mostly works as intended, with

surveillance--doesn't stop planes from attacking WH, now protected from attacking planes by surveilance and protected by

military planes.

Vietnam Veterans Memorial--contains a wall designed for honoring US soldiers who fought and died in Viet Nam--veterans who

fought for freedom, as today's soldiers still fight today around the world to create the protections for liberty and freedom.

Works as intended as the soldiers dead and alive are honored and praised daily.

US-Mexico Border wall--designed to break the will of those intending on breaking our nations laws, a wall that will prevent

entry, such that they may be disciplined into correctly filing for citizenship in the USA. Allows those US corporations who

need low wage workers to import the necessary, temporary (for short duration, sent back to native country) and legal human

resources to accomplish the goals necessary for GDP supply and demand to maintain a healthy economy. Designed to provide a

framework for residence in another country to enter here with the intention of assimilating to the best of their abilities,

skills and talents, which contribute to, and legally persist. And rather than degrade the greatest civilization on earth, by

allowing drug lords to do business here, escalating crime, filling our jails with illegals from all countries--protect the

citizens of the US by our Constitutional, state and local laws. Works as intended, with surveillance (check San Diego Border

Wall). Border wall needs to be in place before any other laws/provisions take place.

If Congress does not complete the 370 miles of triple fence, plus 300 miles of vehicle barriers, plus 700 additional miles of border wall (or 854 miles depending on who describes the Security Fence Act of 2006), as was described by Senator Jon Kyl in his letter to me, I have but one duty to inform my country of these words:

Dear United States of America,

I am so heartbroken that I am losing you, I have been so blessed to be your citizen and was delighted at the way you let our

nation be 'one nation under God'. It grieves my heart that you will no longer be around to help us through the rest of our

lives. I am one of many voices who recognizes that we are losing the strength of the goodness of the United States and its

people's to socialism/globalism/multi-culturalism. As Tammy Bruce has said in essence, the only reason it is worth living on

earth is because of the goodness of the people of The United States. Without the United States giving hope to the world, it

is not worth living on this planet. Without the God given inalienable rights, we are doomed.

As USA attempts to progress and grow hindered only by its politicians and those who will do us harm, it is with hope and prayer that the world recognizes the evils that have plagued us through the centuries/millennium, and we turn back to the Lord's will and rights that provided the safety net of grace that has made this country the greatest on earth.

God Bless and Protect The United States of America.

Clinton, Bush together on immigration


Would not Hillary Clinton Presidency just be the same as Bush? Corporate donors first Americans left out!

USATODAY-Under fire from many of his fellow Republicans over his immigration plans, President Bush heard some kind words on that subject today from someone who’s often among his sharpest critics — Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Our friends at ABC News’ Political Radar report both Bush and Clinton addressed the 2007 Esperanza National Hispanic Prayer Breakfast this morning, and that the senator praised the president and Democratic Sen. Edward Kennedy for their work on the immigration bill “and commended them on helping lead the way to finding common ground between the Democrats and Republicans.”

“I applaud the president. I applaud Senator Kennedy. I applaud Republicans and Democrats alike who have come together around an issue that we know is drawing attacks from all directions,” Clinton said.

READ MORE

http://blogs.usatoday.com/onpolitics/2007/06/immigration_bil.html

Bushes 41 & 43, He is His Father's Son
When Bush 41, said "read my lips, no new taxes", then reniged, he lost his credibility. Then he failed to finish Saddam Hussein in 1991 lossing his majority support. Bush 43 lost his credibility when he said after re-election, "I will spend my political capital to reform Social Security", failing to offer a plan himself, expecting the Republican majority Congress to propose a myriad of plans thus dooming reform to failure & setting up the GOP to MSM attack about how the GOP would steal seniors SS incomes". Then the incessant attacks on War on Terror has cost the GOP majority support. With his old [is new] proposed and unneeded reform for immigration he is pushing headlong against public opinion when it is only necessary to enforce present law, he will loss the next GOP Presidential nominee his majority support, unless the new guy can prove himself an American, not a Globalist.

Maverick
The people complaining about illegal aliens do not hate them. We hate what them coming here does to the country. Do we ned to go back over the list of costs involved in harboring 12 to 20 million illegals. Do we have to go over their impact on social services, education, and healthcare? Do we have to go over how their working cheap hurts American workers? Do we have to go over how the threat of terrorism has made us all more sensitive to who is here? Outside of the WOT and Iraq this is the most important issue of the day. That is why you keep hearing about it. Just because you may hear something again and again that you may not agree with does not make it propoganda. Are you saying you don't think it's a problem too?

And regarding conservatives telling the President and Congress what to do: do you forget this is a government of the people, for the people and by the people. That's how America is supposed to work. May be we do know better than those dumbazzes Maverick! They live their sheltered little lives in DC passing judgement and legislation on the rest of us that they are rarely subjected to. Wake up.

Also the term is so-called not " so call".

Maverick
I also forgot to mention your comment about the people you saw protesting illegal immigration. Please don't confuse all conservatives with those people. You see conservatives are the ones with the jobs who are working their azzes off to help support the illegals who are sponging off the American taxpayer.

And it is not about keeping America white - what a stupid thing to say. America is made up of immigrants of all colors who came here LEGALLY and assimilated (that means they learned to fit in) into society and became for the most part - productive citizens. Why shouldn't we expoect all immigrants to do that?

Ron
You wrote: "Nothing infuriates me more than Bush's comment that "illegal immigrants are doing the work that most Americans won't do."

Yeah the part Bush always leaves out is "illegal immigrants are doing the work that most Americans won't do for below the minumum wages as established through federal law." Maybe if these corporations were forced to pay those "living wages" pols are always clamoring about Americans would do the work. And you know what? I would rather pay whatever for a head of lettuce and know the money was going into the pockets of American workers than pay less and tolerate illegals who pay no taxes, drain our social and healthcare services, make a mess out of our education system, and send most of the money home anyway. That does not make me racist or anti-immigrant so libdrools save your breath.

To "Omega Days"
"These are sad times and seem out of joint. All seems dead, dead, dead; but the age is not dead; it liveth as surely as our Maker liveth. Under all this seeming want of life and motion, the world does move, nevertheless. Be hopeful. Let us adjourn, and appeal to the people."
Abraham Lincoln 1856
from The Prairie Years vol. 2, page 30

Replace Saxby!
On Saturday show we will be taking suggestions and job applications from listeners as to who should replace Senator Saxby Chambliss since Chip Rogers has, at this time, declined. Please call us and let us know who you like or dislike for the job!

The sparks will fly this Saturday.

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John Konop & “Eeevil Conservative” will be featured speakers at an immigration reform rally at the State Capital. John & “Eeevil Conservative” are scheduled to speak at 4pm after the radio show.

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WHAT: State-Wide Immigration Rally

WHEN: Saturday, June 16, 2007, 1pm - 6pm, RAIN OR SHINE