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Wednesday, April 25, 2007
Ann Coulter :: Townhall.com Columnist
Nuts in the crosshairs
by Ann Coulter
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For cranky right-wingers who think politicians don't listen to them, this week I give you elected Democrats running like scared schoolgirls from the media's demand that they enact new gun control laws in response to the Virginia Tech shooting.

Instead, Democrats are promoting a mental health exception to the right to bear arms. We've banned mass murder and that hasn't seemed to work. So now we're going to ban mass murderers. Yes, that will do the trick!

This is a feel-good measure that is both wildly under-inclusive (the vast majority of nutcases receive no formal court adjudication of their nuttiness) and wildly over-inclusive (the vast majority of nuts don't kill people). The worst thing most nuts do is irritate everybody else by driving their electric cars on the highway.

As lovely as it would be, we cannot identify mass murderers before they have broken any law, and mass murder is often the first serious crime they commit. No one can be locked up permanently for being potentially dangerous.

Even stalking laws can put away a person known to be dangerous for only a few years -- at best -- which is generally not worth spending a day sitting in court, facing your stalker, and then waiting a month for the court order.

So on one hand, the mental health exception is a feel-good measure that would be largely pointless. But on the other hand, it's no skin off my back. Liberals go to therapy. Conservatives go to church. And I think we'd all sleep better knowing that David Brock could not buy a gun.

In fact, I think we should expand the mental illness exception to cover First Amendment rights as well as Second Amendment rights.

I note that before mass murder, the only harassment the Virginia Tech killer was guilty of involved speech: creepy e-mails, creepy short stories, creepy phone calls. Stalkers, too, engage in frightening speech -- but that is protected. Revealing a stalking victim's address is "speech" but is little different from being the one to pull the trigger.

This small measure would have taken Dan "What's the Frequency, Kenneth" Rather off the airwaves years ago, preventing him from presenting doctored National Guard documents to the American people to try to throw a presidential election. A mental illness bar would deal a quick blow to Air America and both its remaining listeners. It would also free up about 90 percent of the Internet.

And it would end the public lunacy of Jim Wallis, the Democrats' Christian. Wallis' first remark on the massacre at Virginia Tech last week was to hail the remarkable "diversity" of the victims. True, Cho murdered 32 people in cold blood. But at least he achieved diversity!

Anyone who thinks a single-minded fixation on diversity must be the ultimate goal of every human endeavor, including mass murder, is not the sort of person who should be able to buy a gun or to publish his daft ruminations in public forums.

But just to get this straight: Democrats are saying we should be able to jail "strange" or "angry" people, but we can't deplane imams who demand extra-length seatbelts after boarding?

Speaking of which, has anyone else noticed the public expressions of shame and contrition from the Korean-American community after the Virginia Tech shooting? Of course, no one blames this exemplary community for the actions of one nut. The Koreans are manifestly law-abiding and decent -- nipping at the heels of Italians as the greatest Americans and tied for second with the Cubans.

Indeed, I believe this marks the first time a Korean has killed anyone in the United States, not involving an automobile. Nonetheless, Korean congregations, community groups and the family members themselves are issuing statements of sorrow. Not "pleas for tolerance." But sorrow. Remorse. Remember those? They were big back in the day.

If the Koreans can do it, why can't the Muslims? What explains the lack of a Muslim guilt impulse -- so normal, as seen in the case of the saddened Koreans -- after dozens of terrorist attacks on Americans?

How about a Muslim exception to the Second Amendment? That would have prevented the Virginia snipers from killing 10 people within three weeks in 2002. But most important: It would help us achieve "diversity" in our gun law prohibitions.

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The "Diversity" of the Victims
RE: "Wallis' first remark on the massacre at Virginia Tech last week was to hail the remarkable 'diversity' of the victims." What a pathetic leftist sap! And we all thought only Cho was unbalanced.

Jeffislouie
Join the queue - and I'm even less likely to meet her than you are ... given my location.

Seriously though, us ex-liberals need to read Ann just to clear all the liberal fog out of our heads. All that liberal guilt - it's worse than being a lapsed Catholic ...

Exceptions to the Bill of Rights
Hey Ann, if we are going to take away civil rights based on insanity, I nominate Alec Baldwin as the first candidate.

Anyone who can yell and use abusive language toward an 11-year-old girl simply because she fails to answer the phone at a specific time, shows that he may not have both oars in the water.


Nuts Again!
Thanks, Ann, for another column showing your astute analysis and informed opinion.

I looked at a number of pictures of Ann, and I didn't see a noticeable adam's apple. What I did see, however, was a person who could use maybe another 20-30 pounds. Any of you doubters out there need only look at Ann's hands. The fingers are long, thin, and delicate. And, I don't think any men have those---hormones or not. So drop the topic. You're only doing it to insult her anyway.

I'm recycling part of this post from another thread, but I think the comments are pertinent.

It's too bad that so many Liberal posters really don't understand what the Townhall articles are. For the most part, they are opinion. That's 'opinion', as in "...a belief or conclusion held with confidence but not substantiated by positive knowledge or proof..."

I fail to understand why you Liberals believe Townhall columnists should be giving footnoted treatises in place of opinion. You seem to want everyone to 'prove' whatever is said. Obviously, you don't read the Liberal websites---or are you disgusted with them as most people? You'll never find anything approaching truth or proof around there. But if you must have them, here in Townhall, the opinions are peppered with examples and proof, even if some of you turn a blind eye to logic.

There are basic differences between Conservatives and Liberals, otherwise we'd all have the same name. Based on the past actions [and this is 'opinion', so I don't need citations] of Liberals and Conservatives, we can reach some accurate conclusions. As long as we are truthful, we can. And that is why Liberal generalities and name calling are always wrong.

Conservatives believe in the individual, Liberals believe in the individual as regulated by the State---and of course, that would be a Liberal dominated State to insure political correctness. I think most differences in philosophy can be boiled down to this concept.

Taxation? Abortion? Speech? Arms? Speedy Trial?---these and other related concepts are all based on the individual. The State exists to guarantee these individual rights and administer necessary federal laws to assist in the protection of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

It does not take a village! It takes individuals working for and amongst themselves, but not necessarily as a defined group project. Individuals form capitalism, and capitalism is why we are the strongest country in the World. Get over it, Liberals!

Mental illness is a serious problem where it exists, but I'm rather tired of Liberals trying to classify all slightly off [or Conservative] actions as mental illness. The reason there are more 'mental disorders' now than years before is the Liberal expansion of the definitions. They just want to include more people in the classification so they can feel good about 'helping' the poor souls gain self-esteem and love for their fellow man---or woman as the case may be.

Liberals are predictable, and I know this because I discovered the childish draft of the Liberalist Manifesto. I posted it on my blog, InOpinoVeritas.Townhall.com --- or just click on my name above. [Isn't self promotion shameless?]

By the way, iorek, I wish you could learn to spell as well. The word is sociology.

Is it possible?
I think I might be falling in love with Ann Coulter.
Brilliant.
And I'm just the man to put some meat on her bones too!
How am I going to explain this to my girlfriend?
:-)

Responce to Vic
Yes Vic, but there is at least a chance for due process when it is issued by a court. The gods (little g) of mental health are unaccountable outside of their own peers.

Similar situation different results

JeffRob wanted to know exactly how more guns could improve this type of situation.Back in 2002 at the Appalachian School of Law,they did have a shooter go on the rampage and start shooting people.Two students did get to their car and retrieved the firearms that they owned.They were able to stop this nut from shooting.If this had been allowed to go on,then very possibly Va Techs massacre would have only been the 2nd worst mast killing.Heres a link that explains it:

http://media.www.tnhonline.com/media/storage/paper674/news/2007/04/27/Commentary/Virginia.Tech.Could.Have.Been.Prevented-2884467.shtml

You wanted to know how so there it is.Personally I would have thought it would be self explanitory.I just dont understand the thought process of " I dont want a gun if I'm attacked by someone with a gun",but then again we are talking about the "We have lost" party who throws their hands up anytime the going gets rough.Thank God our forefathers werent such wimpy people.


To eleutheros
A spouse can already get it simply by getting a restraining order.

mental health
Talk about a diverse group! I LIKE it! This is what America is all about.

A couple of personal points;

1. Love Ann.
2. I am a conservative clinical social worker.
3. People suffering from mental illness are not "nuts". They are sick. Most are responsible for their behavior and are subject to being prosecuted...but still sick.
4. Screening for those who are "sick" and violent is no more extraordinary than any other public health problem that is screened.
5. Violence is a public health problem. It isn't caused by guns.

Was that 3-Dawg or Not
I may have miss-read your last and failed to recognize that part of your post was a quote. Sorry for the error if it was in fact my mistake.

3-dawg is living in another reality
As you note, the VPI is an isolated environment where guns are not permitted. The rest of Virginia is not. So where is the data to prove your assumption regarding the “itchy trigger fingers” and the death by poor accuracy. You have 40 states to pick from, or use them all. You cannot produce data to support your argument because it doesn’t exist. I am tired of arguing with ignoramuses who have gleefully swallowed the poison put out by the Brady gang, but I will not surrender. Concealed carry does not, has not and never will lead to the chaos its opponents fantasize will happen and hope to fanaticize others into perceiving as reality.

I'm Losing My Sense of Humor
If the libs and the Brady gang get their way, it won’t require that a person enter therapy as described by Ann, it will only require that a mental health professional declare a person to be a threat (or perhaps only a potential threat.) There will likely be no due process. So an angry or paranoid neighbor or a spouse with a gripe need only accuse and make their case to a mental health professional and bang, your Second Amendment rights are gone. Sounds like the start of a new cottage industry for mental health professionals. The implications are far reaching and profound and our liberty is in extreme danger. No joke here.

whoops, wrong button...
"David Mac- Cho did NOT kill people because they were defenseless. Cho killed people because he was a murdering scumbag. You may think liberals treat everyone like children, but conservatives act like everyone is going to be a trained, responsible gun owner. How many times have we heard "If there was just one trained gun owner in the building, Cho would have been stopped earlier."

Never heard of the GI bill, have ya.
Conservatives don't 'act like everyone is going to be trained', conservatives realise that many of the people who attended THIS very school already ARE trained. It's not that you treat everyone like children, it's that you think everyone should be just like you.

"Well, guess what. If VA Tech wasn't a gun-free zone, you wouldn't have had one trained, responsible gun owner on the premises. You would have had 250 trained gun owners, 75 gun owners with no training and an itchy finger, and 10 more gun owning idiots that would have killed 20 other people while trying to get Cho because their aim sucked.
You also would have accidental shootings as a regular occurance, and cold-blooded shootings much more common because the scumbags didn't have to worry about how to get the gun into the classroom."

It's amazing that we are constantly being told that we can't say for sure what would happen, because we can't see the future. Guess that one was wrong too. This guy has us all whooped, to the numbers. Libs constantly & forever misconstrue 'allow' to mean 'forcably require'. As if our whole argument is based on us not wanting any laws whatsoever. Are you really that shallow?




Wow. Just wow.
"Um. Excuse you - the column's issue stems from the killing last week, hence the tragedy is the CENTERPIECE of Coulter's latest farce"

BUUUUUT...

"Ha ha? I don't actually READ the boychick succubus' columns..."

Nicde. Meanwhile

"It's my opinion that the Left knows a whole lot more about The People than the Right does. But I know that's not a fault to you guys; The People aren't worth caring about. It's only our Moral integrity that matters"

Not so fast there jimmy. It's the people that motivates conservatives in our position. The people, in particular, that are closest to me, including myself. That the left never considers that they may well be within that group of people is the most confusing part, to me.

"The Don- You're not afraid? And so you need the gun why? Because you want to make other people afraid? If you and I ever meet, I hope it's on a college campus, so at least I'll know you were required to check your heat at the door"

Case in point. Question: Do people who possess CCW permits who find themselves in one of the 150,000 to 2.4 million (depending on who you ask)annual defense situations stop and ASK political affiliation of people whom they take the time & effort to help out? Virtually unanimously, no. Perhaps they should. Perhaps the question to the poster is 'Why are YOU afraid?'

TheDon: the border patrol. can't forget the border patrol. Trendy thing now is to just jail 'em & be done with it.


I have it, people!
We make it illegal for any bullet to enter any human, on pain of imprisonment of the bullet.

This would eliminate the need for cops to have bulletproof vests, which is also friendlier on the environment and less fiscally demanding, freeing up money to fund work force re-entry programs for bullets on parole.

Gun Free Zones
I know it's late...I've been out all day.

Have you ever heard of any mass shootings at:

West Point?
Annapolis?
Any military base?
Any Police Academy?
Any National Guard Armory?

And these places are often filled with gun totin' 18 year olds.

Please, folks, think about it.


Let's see what George had to say;
"No, surely, No! they meant to drive us into what they termed rebellion, that they might be furnished with a pretext to disarm and then strip us of the rights and privileges of Englishmen and Citizens."

- George Washington, Valley forge, March 1, 1778.
http://gunshowonthenet.com/SecondAmend/GeorgeWashingtonArms.html


Why Ann upsets liberals
In his post at 2:55 PM, Gunny writes:

"She's rich, smart, good-looking, and very articulate...which all threaten liberal metrosexuals and make us VRWC members LLAMF at your posts."

With the exception of "good-looking", these are the traits that libs, especially feminists, claim to promote among women.

You can also add "independent" to the list. In other words, she is everything the libs claim a truly liberated woman should be. She doesn't even need a man.

Their only problem with her is that when a woman is and does everything the libs claim a woman should, she turns out to be conservative (other examples include Michelle Malkin, Laura Ingraham, Mary Matalin, Peggy Noonan, Kathleen Parker, Dr. Laura, Phyllis Schlafly, and Mona Charen).

And who do the libs offer up as their feminist icons? Mrs. Bill Clinton, who couldn't get elected dog-catcher without her husband's name and help. Mrs. Pelosi, who rode her father's coattails into politics. Gloria Steinhem who, after writing that "a woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle" wound up married to the guy who subsidized her money-losing publication, Ms. Magazine.

Or how about Rosie "too-disgusting-even-for-the- left" O'Donnell?

And then we have those liberal female icons of deep intellectual thought: the Dixie Chicks, who are ashamed of GWB but not of their own stupidity, Sheryl "one-square-per-visit" Crow, Laurie "unplug-your-toaster-when-you're-not-at-home" David, Darryl "the-debate-on-global-warming-is-over" Hannah, and Janeane "you-should-have-asked-someone-whose-opinion-you-respect" Garafalo. In other words, a collective band of BIMBOS.

Finally, I can't help but laugh that every week at least one lib posting on Ann's column suggests she isn't feminine enough. Compared to what? Hillary? This would be moronic even if it wasn't coming from the political faction that forbids derogatory references to the sexual identity of liberal gays and lesbians.

Great
Great job Ann!

Humpty Dumpty
Gee they can single out a couple grade schoolers for praying at school. You’d think they wouldn't have any trouble stumbling over a potential mass murderer.

Sounds good
Gunny is right. Then what we should do is blame it ALL on the colosal failures of the institutional (liberal) establishment to identify, treat, montitor, combat, and medicate KNOWN victim -- er culprit.

The Don
"Did I leave anything out guys?"

Don't forget dodge ball.

The Don
You left out Pictures of guns on little boy's T shirts and The NRA.

The New York Times has figured out it is not Cho's fault. They want to blame the NRA for the murders.

Guess that makes sense to Liberals.


p.s.
Ann, could you guest visit "The View" just once before BigRo leaves?!?!?!? I would pay to see that encounter!

Ann is a
"straight shooter." (Punn intended!) I don't agree with 100% of what she says, but at least she's not a wimp. She has taught me the necessity of standing strong for your convictions. Keep up the excellent work Ann!

gc
If you're going to defend the literacy of the right wing, you'd better learn to spell "socialogy."

iorek
I'd stack my professional education up against you anyday meathead.

Not to mention that WHO runs the NEA? Who designs the curriculum that kids get taught? Who decides WHAT goes into textbooks? Who lets The Goreacle past his bum scoop GloBULL Warming dog squeeze in classes?

If you answered libstains, you'd be right. If you answered anything else, it's obvious that you need a cranial-rectomy performed with a Dodge Ram truck with a Hemi for extra pull.

JeffRob
And had the COURT that sentence the moron to the loony bin DONE THEIR G-D JOB and entered it into the NCIC, guess what libstain, Cho would NOT have been able to buy a weapon. Period.

BTW, if you're being mugged, would you feel more comfortable with someone like me (a knuckle-dragging violence loving VRWC member) running up, weapon ready to roll, or a girlie libman standing there watching you get a beat-down or running away to his car?


actreal
30%?

Were you talking about YOUR I.Q. score? If so, then 30 would be way too generous. I'd estimate that you're the perfect libsquirt weighing in at a whopping 10 or so.

Ann

Another great article.

I think you do well to restrain yourself to write as much as you do with all the "ammunition" the liberals provide on a daily basis.

I think if you were to write anymore than you do that you might create a mental health problem in America. It seems every time you do publish an article, the liberals to "ballistic" and I don't think our hospitals would have enough room for them all.

Keep up the good work. We luv ya. And the liberals do have it right on one thing: you are the best thing going for the Conservative cause. Where I laugh is they think you will make it easier for them to win the political debate. LOL

Lynne
Ellision left Elder's colunm. The rest don't have the nerve to post there.

JeoffRob
If you whimpering girlymen can't take insults, don't throw insults at us.

Prior to making up your own polls & statistics as you go;
Check out http://www.vote.com to see if they have a survey like you are quoting.

If you check there now to see how many people think we need more gun laws you will see;
%8 think we need more,
%92 do not think we need more




Robert E Lee:
Libs do go to church, when they are seeking the Black vote.

Coulter
I didn't Her post. I didn't have to. Nobody But Nobody with any brains gives a flying fig what She says anymore. Keep it up,folks and your 30% will be 10%. You are becoming a Joke with no punchline.

iorek
The left understand anything about ideas of the right? WHAT A HOOT! Shall we talk slogans of the left?

iorek
1. stow the education spam. it is not a fact. in fact it is nonsense. socialogy majors are not educated.

2. the only hate in the usa is directed from the liberty hating totalitarian left. feel free to speak here, but try not to show us your lack of education and accomplishment.

One guy goes crazy...
and liberals swarm. Hard to tell if he was using them or they are using him.

“For cranky right-wingers who think politicians don't listen to them, this week I give you elected Democrats running like scared schoolgirls from the media's demand that they enact new gun control laws in response to the Virginia Tech shooting.”

Yes, and this is supposed to assuage my tongue for justifiable complaints. I don;’t think so.
There always will be a rabid left. The fact that they codify it is their problem. Whoops, then it becomes ours. Still I don’t see how you can compare the two in impact they cause. The institutional left also sees no one else but its ideas. SO confronting it is not much of an option. You are down here, so to say, and they are up there. But does the right have to exhibit the same elitist power structure, even if not the same scale. Yea, I think I will cool my jets knowing full well that the “left tail” as a powerful overbite on the system – or gubmint.

What’s amazing is how (current) events seem to play right into their sinister power struggle over the right. Shutting them up, I believe, would be the first priority of the left. More proof to my theory how evil works and maneuvers. But then a percentage (lets say) of nuts know pretty well how to work the system anyway.

So, because the right won't listen -- or likes other itchy messages better -- makes them tougher cause they ignore the base?

Ann's Fans
I understand where you fawning supporters of Ann come up with your views: the level of education in red states is far lower than in the blue states, and the level of illiteracy is far higher (it's a fact, check it out). I must say, your eagerness to cling to moronic bumper sticker slogans in the face of complex reality is a trademark of the under educated. The thing that I don't understand is where all your meanness comes from. It's one thing to be ignorant, but ignorance combined with righteous anger is a most unattractive combination,

Teacher and The Don
Teacher- Just my being involved in discussion on Townhall shows that I'm open to listening to other viewpoints. I haven't posted "HAHA! You're all stupid conservatives!!" I'm not here to insult you guys. I'm just interested in understanding why you believe what you do. And, admittedly, to tell you why I disagree.

Similarly, I don't read Ann Coulter just to make myself sick to the stomach. I know she believes what she says, and it intrigues me to read how she attempts to persuade the people to agree with her. I'm just trying to understand the conservative mindset. It is so very, very alien to me.

And the "feel good" thing was a joke. We can save that discussion for the message boards on one of Townhalls numerous gay rights-related articles.

As far as concealed weapons laws, Virginia is a state where it is legal to carry one. Hence Cho walked into a Walmart and bought one, legally. You would advocate for his right to do so, right?

The Don- You're not afraid? And so you need the gun why? Because you want to make other people afraid? If you and I ever meet, I hope it's on a college campus, so at least I'll know you were required to check your heat at the door.

stuff
FIRST, LIBERALS DO NOT SPEAK FOR THE PEOPLE. what garbage. they speak for dependency, poverty and intellectual dishonesty.

SECOND. Progressivism, socialism, and communism do differ, as insecticides vary at the harware store. however like poisens, they are all found on the same shelf at the store and each also have as it's basis one single thing. Forced collectivism. each is an enemy of human liberty. you can not take the marx out of the above isms.

LAST: best essay in a long time ann. don't forget other latin and especially mexican americans. wonderful examples of family love, and hard work not mention comidas ricisimo!

gracias adios from this greek american expat living in costa rica and nicaragua. nicaragua, where despite a communist president, the taxes are way lower than the usa, laws less repressive than the usa, and the women much more beautiful. chicas lindisima:)))))))))))))))))))

No, JeffRob –
Liberals speak for SOME of the people…and you thereby prove my point. Liberals believe it is their right to silence voices of opposition, rather than recognize that their own positions MAY be anything but perfectly thought out and correct. Whatever your point of view, it does no harm to listen to the opposition. The failure of liberals to even consider this reveals their paucity of ideas and the lack of courage of their convictions.
It is equally revealing that your insulting rant ‘felt good’. Feeling good is what it’s all about really, isn’t it?
Regarding the relationship between concealed carry laws and the diminution of violence on individuals the facts/statistics are there to be read by anyone. Try it.

Demosthenes
I would rather be a 'vanguard' for unenlightened poor people, than unenlightened rich people, any day.

Demosthenes
You wrote: "Leftist apparently seem to thank that their charming ideology apparently imbues them with an esoteric insight in the nature of reality in general & human nature in particlar."

Exactly! Thank you! I couldn't have said it better myself. But it's not so much that we have an esoteric insight, as much as the Right has willfully adorned blinders in modern times in order to justify and advance a short-sighted, callous worldview that employs imperialism, Christo-facism, racism, sexism, homphobia, fear- and war-mongering, and a shocking level of greed.

It's my opinion that the Left knows a whole lot more about The People than the Right does. But I know that's not a fault to you guys; The People aren't worth caring about. It's only our Moral integrity that matters.

JeffRob: WOW
I might be a left-wing progressive secular Democrat, and therefore visiting as an alien guest on Townhall, but I would never insult you, MyOpine, the way you have attempted, confusedly, to insult me.

+I was right, SO YOU ARE an "underappreciated vistionary" and future apparatchik who is probably is still in school and/or completely underemployed. So tell me, just for my own edification: have you placed yourself firmly in the "to each according to her needs column" or the "from each according to her abilities column"?

+Since you are so ignorant of history, you might interested to know that "progressive" is synonymous w/ "communist." Put then again, you do strike me a being a "vanguard" for the unenlightened proletariate.

MyOpine
"Might he be some kind of mental case with such low self esteme he needs to resort to anonymous insults to strangers to give himself a false feeling of self importence?"

Aside from the typos, the above is a perfectly composed description by MyOpine, of MyOpine. I might be a left-wing progressive secular Democrat, and therefore visiting as an alien guest on Townhall, but I would never insult you, MyOpine, the way you have attempted, confusedly, to insult me.

Also, sorry, I think you misread. I never said I was a gun owner.

And I'm sure you have some nice FoxNews polls to show that Americans hate gun control as much as you do, but the FACT of the matter is that a majority of Americans DO support waiting periods, gun-free zones, and extensive background checks. And the NRA does too. So that would put you on the fringe.

Please respond intelligently, check your spelling, and don't accuse me of insulting you for kicks anymore. This post has been an insult-free zone (except for those you wrote earlier).

JeffRob: Really?
That's because liberals speak for THE PEOPLE (which is a 'bad' thing to the Right, for some strange reason), and conservatives speak for no one but you Townhall-lovin' Rightie-fringe-nuts. God, that felt good.

Really? What a thoroughly unsubstantiated gratutious assertion made by an "underappreciated vistionary" and future apparatchik who is probably is still in school and/or completely underemployed. Let's see, Leftist apparently seem to thank that their charming ideology apparently imbues them with an esoteric insight in the nature of reality in general & human nature in particlar. If the rest of us could appreciate the subtle beauty of social engineering in perpetuity (e.g., gun control, affirmative action/quotas, welfare state, free-abortions demand, etc.) we would of course be leftists.

Reality: Leftist are for group rights & group debts, i.e., the old Marxist canard. Libertarians (traditional liberals) & Right wingers are all about individual rights & their associated responsibilities.

MyOpine
I believe JeffRob needs to go to libbylala land with jessica, were everyone obeys the law and if your nice no one will hurt you. Were no nasty people challenge you to defend your views.

They should go for the mental and emotional health. I worry for them, too much critical thinking is dangerous to a liberal mind.

JeffRob
Along with being a pathetic head case you are also a compulsive LIAR!
You state as a fact the majority of the country agrees with you that we need more gun laws?
If you bother to check the News prior to making your idiot claims you will find surveys & polls stating exactly the opposite.

Your assumption of what VA Tech would look like if it was not a "Gun Free Zone" is an erronious slanted opinion.

I think you are lying about being a gun owner.
If you do own a firearm it serves to prove the need for stricter guards to keep guns away from nut cases.

As I described to before;
You are a pathetic thing who derives some perverted satisfaction from insulting strangers.
Your posts prove you can't decern between facts and your own fantasy.

To all
jessicalange sounds a lot like kimberloon. We will know if she blames the whole VT thing on Bush.

a comparison
"We just have to deny him access to legal weaponry and we'll have no problems with him" Am I talking about Cho, Hitler, Bin Ladin, or Saddam?

"He's done nothing I know of to harm us, therefore we have no reason to take action against him. We'll just watch him and act if he does something bad to us." am I paraphrasing Clinton on Bin Ladin, or Liberals on Cho and Saddam (falsely in Saddam's case)?

"Precautionary steps have to be taken when dealing with the mentally disturbed. We must ensure that they cannot harm others." Am I paraphrasing gliberals on Cho, or conservatives on the homeless?

Isn't it wonderful how history repeats itself? (including this comment, made to a dead thread)

MyOpine
You know, you're right.

Gunophobe: Girlie libmen and feminazis libwenches afraid of evil ol guns.


GunnyG
Remember what you tell me when in such a target rich environment?

I know Gunophobe is not the proper word but you will have to admit it is descriptive!
Only criminals and cowards have reason to fear guns in the hands of honest men.

A large portion of the girlymen Libs you see posting here today want to disarm America like Europe, Austrailia, England and parts of Canada so they can be forced to accept a One World Government.
Most of them are Anti-American Communists but not all.
Some are just dupes being used as "Useful Idiots".

GunnyG
LMAO! Get'em!

My Opine and David Mac
M.O.- Let's see... so you're calling me an arrogant Communist, a mental case, and a pathetic pervert. And I'm the one guilty of name calling. I'm not here to insult anyone. I just think the ideas of Ann and the Posters here are missing the point. I have no problem with the 2nd Amendment- own a gun if you want one- but thank God the majority of the country agrees with me that there needs to be some regulation in the sale of firearms. Don't forget- Cho didn't steal the gun he had, he bought it. Legally.

David Mac- Cho did NOT kill people because they were defenseless. Cho killed people because he was a murdering scumbag. You may think liberals treat everyone like children, but conservatives act like everyone is going to be a trained, responsible gun owner. How many times have we heard "If there was just one trained gun owner in the building, Cho would have been stopped earlier."
Well, guess what. If VA Tech wasn't a gun-free zone, you wouldn't have had one trained, responsible gun owner on the premises. You would have had 250 trained gun owners, 75 gun owners with no training and an itchy finger, and 10 more gun owning idiots that would have killed 20 other people while trying to get Cho because their aim sucked.
You also would have accidental shootings as a regular occurance, and cold-blooded shootings much more common because the scumbags didn't have to worry about how to get the gun into the classroom.

No one wants to take away your precious heat. But gun-free zones, along with waiting periods, extensive background checks, and mandatory training, are a good thing.

AreDNmYheaD
jessicalange is basically as dumb as a bag of cut hair. No critical thinking going on inside that melon.

MyOpine
The correct word for the libstains afraid of evil ol guns is:

Hoplophobe.

But just calling them libdolt gun-grabbers achieves the same result!

jessicalange
"Ha ha? I don't actually READ the boychick succubus' columns,"

OOHHHH! I see.. I probably should known by the stupidity you display in your posts. Thank you I know now you prefer responding from a position of ignorance rather then having to read a different point of view.

I understand and realize how unnerving that can be to the simple minded so I do not blame you.

You know,, If you close your eyes and click your heels together 3 times you will be whisked away to libbylala land where your point of view will always be unchallenged.


sardine101
I don't know about her being nuts but I think that you're just jealous that she spells better than you!

BTW, I'd marry that babydoll and pull security for her at speaking engagments just to be able to beat down a libturd or two!

She's rich, smart, good-looking, and very articulate...which all threaten liberal metrosexuals and make us VRWC members LLAMF at your posts.

Any libstain call her: "Mann Coulter" yet?

jessicalange
I'm betting you worked on that thought all night, didn't ya?

WHAT a real critical thinker.

jetpiolot
She has been engaged three times and never married? Wow close call for those three guys - the reason she uses the word "nuts" a lot is that she probably hasn't seen any in some time - imagine being married to her ??? My goodness ....

To Buck and the rest of the
moonbats from the Party of "tolerance" that are stopping by with their weekly barrage of pathetic insults-

If you wish to feel outraged and angry, try watching Flight 93 or one of the taped beheadings that "The Religion of PEACE" so proudly released for your viewing pleasure.

What is the matter with you??

AreDNmYheaD
I wish I lived in Utopia although it might get boring - you can discuss whatever you want - Freeddom of Speech and all that - just like the Westboro folks have the right to picket the funerals of dead soldiers and students - oh I forgot good taste doesn't count right ? Come on she made the comment about the 9/11 widows to get a reaction - that what she does -

I notice
I notice that there's nothing like Ann to bring out the libtards! Your comments are at best absurd. You lack intelligence and cannot really refute anything she writes. What's the matter too much common sense for you to wrap your pea brains around? What's really funny is how you lay in waiting every week for her column, then like the cockroaches you are come out after dark! It's your only goal in life is to bring down Ann and your just not smart enough.

bobbit
Do I sense some cynicism in your remarks? Well not any sound arguements that is for sure – Annie and Rosie are mud rakers - pure and simple - that is how they make their money - I would offer that both make the remarks that they do to push buttons and get reactions - while making a bundle - the ratings for the View - which I would not watch on a bet - are up 17 percent since Rosie arrived - you see it pays

JeffRob
I hope you are still in school and taking classes in critical thought.

Your implication that more guns in school won't solve the problem of Cho-like people is pure sophistry.

Cho killed people because they were defenseless; if he wanted a gunfight, he'd have walked into a police station. If just one student had a gun and was trained to use it, Cho wouldn't have killed so many. It's not the gun, but whose finger is on the trigger.

Go ahead and call me a "moonbat", JeffRob. Two things will still be true: you'll never call me that to my face and you'll always be a little girlyman who's afraid of guns.


Bravo!
Bravo, Bravo! Author! Author! The libtards are just no match for Ann!

nuts in the crosshairs!
Way to go Ann Coulter! You are exactly that the Democrats are running away like schoolgirls from the media when it comes to gun control. No amount of gun control or restrictions on owning a gun will keep deranged killers like Mr. Cho from obtaining the weapons that they want and then going on a rampage in a gun free zone. I'm sure although I can't prove it, that Mr. Cho knew that the campus at Virginia Tech was a gun free zone and probably take advantage of that fact when he smuggled his guns into the campus and started to kill indiscriminately innocent victims. Being such a coward that he was, and a bully, he took his own life much like other bullies do.

I just wonder how things would have played out at the campus not be a gun free zone, some faculty who had been trained in the use of firearms and were packing firearms, or some other students or other security personnel who are stationed in those areas who could have confronted Mr. Cho with other weapons that could have taken him out before all of the carnage. Frankly the only deterrent that seems to work by statistics and by every survey is that when a community or a state permits people the right to carry a concealed weapon. Wherever this has been instituted, criminals think twice about taking on an establishment or individuals or people. I'm no gun fanatic and I don't own a gun although there are times when I wish I had one because of an intruder or someone who tried to break into our home many years ago could of raped and killed my wife. The good thing that did happen was that she was able to chase him out of the window throwing pewter mugs and dishes at him at high velocity. He left his fingerprints all over the place and they were able to track down who the individual was but I don't know what ever happened because we moved out of that apartment and went and moved out into the country after my first job. Keep up the good work and God bless the Godspeed.
Joe Gates

Goshawk
Libswine ??? You got PMS ? I never said that I like Rosie - I have the same disdain for both of the mud rakers - take a walk and cool down - my goodness Libswine - don't hold back tell us how you really feel

Democrat Avenger - Historically IGNORANT
"Nevertheless, with all these defects, the colony was admirably governed in the main. One great right of freemen, the right of bearing arms, a highly necessary right to men planted suddenly among wild beasts and savages, was certainly not taken from the people. On the contrary, the government took care that all should be duly trained to self-defence. There is no man who bears a head, says Wood, (New Englands Prospect, 1639,) but bears military arms; even boys of fourteen years of age are practised with men in military discipline every three weeks. And they practised to some effect, as the records of the time prove, and as the Pequods learned to their cost."

- John Lothrop Motley, (1814–1897). 'Polity of the Puritans'. (Concerning early colonial
times). [The North American review. Vol. 69, Issue 145, Oct. 1849].
http://gunshowonthenet.com/2ALEGAL/Origins/PolityofthePuritans.html

“Our citizen-soldiers are unlike those drawn from the population of any other country. They are composed indiscriminately of all professions and pursuits: of farmers, lawyers, physicians, merchants, manufacturers, mechanics, and laborers; and this, not only among the officers, but the private soldiers in the ranks. Our citizen-soldiers are unlike those of any other country in other respects. They are armed, and have been accustomed from their youth up to handle and use fire-arms; and a large proportion of them, especially in the western and more newly-settled States, are expert marksmen.”

- President James Polk, December 5, 1848 message to the U.S. House and Senate.

"....I conceive, a person in some degree upon a level with themselves wou'd have it in his power to engage for the good pay which is offered, huntsmen, who have been used to arms from their childhood, and in a particular manner acquainted with the country from which many have been drove...."

- George Washington, letter to Robert Dinwiddie, October 24, 1757. [The Writings of George Washington from the Original Manuscript Sources, 1745-1799. John C. Fitzpatrick, Editor.]
http://gunshowonthenet.com/SecondAmend/GeorgeWashingtonArms.html

See, the thing is. WE DIDN'T START HAVING PROBLEMS LIKE THESE UNTIL 'GUN CONTROL'.

Do some research and discover the truth, rather than blathering on emotionally and irrationally.


JeffRob
You must have skipped my 12:53 post.
It describes you to a perfection.

Mr Buck
You Gunophobes seem to think you know something about gun laws.
Tell us which one of the 22,000+ anti-gun laws has ever prevented a crime?


And give us a replay of your great plan to win the GWOT too.
LOL

Teacher
You wrote: "It is relatively rare for a liberal speaker to be shouted down or attacked in a public venue, yet it has become so normal as to be unremarkable that these attacks are directed towards conservative speakers, military recruiters and the like."

That's because liberals speak for THE PEOPLE (which is a 'bad' thing to the Right, for some strange reason), and conservatives speak for no one but you Townhall-lovin' Rightie-fringe-nuts. God, that felt good.

If the Left is so guilty of throwing money at problems (you know, money that can be SPENT to BUY stuff), how is it less crazy that the Right wants to throw guns at problems (you know, that can be used for nothing but killing)?

If the discussion is about how to keep guns out of the hands of nutjobs, and we've established that mudering nutjobs can't be discerned until they've acted out their nuttiness, and there's nothing we can do about that, doesn't it seem logical that the answer is to make guns LESS accessible to everyone, not MORE accessible?

I mean, you're really arguing to allow concealed weapons to be carried on university campuses?! And that helps fight school shooting HOW, exactly? Stats to prove it? I can see it now: "JeffRob- look! Evidence shows that students are less likely to die in gun violence if we increase the number of guns on campus!" Yeah, probably not.

You're the moonbats. Armed moonbats, but moonbats nonetheless.

Mr. Buck
You wrote: "No, schmuck, abortions kill fetuses - most of them the size of a peanut. Since Warpublicans are happy to kill Muslim children - and don't consider THEM people, I hardly think your talk of abortion is sincere."

First, you should know about things the size of a peanut. I'm sure you've told all the women in your life that size doesn't matter - but I digress...

Second, in this day and age for any intelligent person to stick to that tripe about baby/fetus, whether it is live or not, etc. is simply willfully ignorant. Those who not intelligent, a classification I would think you fall under after reading many of your dimocr@p talking point regurgitations, despite all scientific evidence and medical opinion to the contrary, think otherwise.

I don't believe you can document any instance of Americans blowing themselves or their cars up and killing innocent people and children. Apparently you have never met a Republican nor a member of our military who grieve whenever such a thing happens. Just like a libdolt to think they are morally superior and more in touch with everything than others. Why don't you go back to the Huff n Puff Post and spew your trash?

Lynne
Where have you been lately? Or have we just been bloviating on different threads?

sardine101..writes,
"What is the difference between Ann Coulter and Rosie?" Lets take a look at just a few differences.

Ann is highly intelligent, articulate, truthful, and backs-up everything she says with documented facts. She's a successful Attorney and the author of multiple successful books. She is a healthy, physically and mentally. A beautiful woman inside and out! A shinning example of a strong American woman that stands up to defend her country against all enemies!

Rosie is an uneducated, unintelligent, untruthful p*ss-poor comedian. She deals in lies and distorted information to advance her Liberal agenda. She is unhealthy, psychically and mentally. An ugly woman, inside and out! A
perfect example of what a woman should not be. A weak, sickening, filthy mouthed thing that attacks her own country that protects here and her right to be a fool.

I comes as no surprise to me that you Libswine Love Rosie! And Hate Ann Coulter!

jessicalange
HAHAHA AGAIN!

Someone complains about how Ann presents her views and arguments but, not one presents their own logical counter view or argument.

I can only believe by the content of your post jessica, that even though you don't like Ann's presentation you cannot find fault with her arguments.

Bettyhere
I am sorry about your husband's illness. That must be very hard to deal with.

As for your statement about gun dealers knowing he could not purchase a firearm, my guess is they know. Whenever you try to purchase a firearm in California, you have to go through a DOJ (department of Justice) check. If your husband attempted to purchase a firearm, it would have been flagged. If you try to buy a firearm and you are not allowed to, a police officer will come visit you (and probably not be happy about it).

Sardine
That God you pointed that out! You are so right! Democrats never make anything political and after all even if they did, we all know that it is their right to do so! For those wasically conservatives to even try to make political comments when the comments are just soooo against the Dem agenda is reprehensible and should be verboten. What ever are they thinking?

Dona261
I have noticed Ann has been slipping lately. She's gone weeks without any references to stained Gap dresses or Bill Clinton's crotch.

Stop The Insanity
As Einstein said, "If you do the same thing over and over expecting different results, you are insane". The fact is we have been electing the same people over and over again, so we are responsible for the insanity prevailing in our politics.
The Democrats & Republicans have rigged the election process to assure themselves a lock on power, they have convinced us there is no other choice. With that, they engage in pure partisanship without worrying about accountability, and leadership has gone out the window. The Constitution has been marginalized and the rule of law sinks further, but we re-elect these power hungry partisans again and again.
It is time to take the responsibility we were given and exercise our authority to change the dynamics of American politics by not electing another Dem or GOP this election. We need a President not of either party to break this cycle.
I am a candidate for President in 2008 and I offer leadership that is visionary and not ideological. Please visit my website, joeolivaforpresident.org. You will find out that there is an alternative and we can do better. Check it out, you will not be disappointed. Thanks, Joe
Do you really think another Dem or Republican will change anything? Do you really??

Thanks Vic
I missed your earlier post on the current federal law.

Having read it now, I'm thinking it's probably not a bad idea to consider expanding the mental illness provision if the only ones currently banned from gun ownership under it are those who have been "adjudicated as a mental defective or .... committed to a mental institution."

As a couple of earlier posts have pointed out, hardly anyone is actually committed to a mental institution anymore, even those with very serious mental problems. Likewise people being adjudicated as mental defectives.

So I guess a serious question is whether there is a way to help keep guns out of the hands of people who have exhibited serious mental illness. Maybe not, since I don't know what standard we might use to determine whether someone is, in medical terms, a nutjob.





Mike
This would be humorous if not for the fact that every number of the statistics represents a person's life.

Prior to confiscating civilian arms in England they had few firearms murders. Most murders were committed with knives.
Now firearms murders have remained nearly the same but knife murders have DOUBLED!
Most done with KITCHEN KNIVES!
Now England wants to outlaw knives with points.
Will England outlaw ROCKS too?

Ken
I think it's 3--criticize liberals for thinking mentally ill people shouldn't be allowed to buy guns.

Did anyone notice that she forgot to include that it is all President Clinton's fault?

sardine101
Sorry man, I didn't realize you live in utopia where everyone discusses things in a pre-approved manner.
So.. let me get this straight, no one can discuss any serious subjects in the context of current events, especially tragedies.

Hmmmm.. In truth, I think you cannot present a logical argument to disagree with Ann so your trying to change the subject.


The TRUE agenda of some Libs.
The following shocking quote by Sarah Brady, spokesperson for the Violence Policy Center, the Brady Campaign, and Handgun Control Inc. illustrates the true agenda of those advocating gun control.

"Our main agenda is to have ALL guns banned. We must use whatever means possible. It doesn't matter if you have to distort facts or even lie. Our task of creating a Socialist America can only succeed when those who would resist us have been totally disarmed." - Sarah Brady, Chair of Handgun Control Inc., to Senator Howard Metzenbaum; The National Educator, January 1994.

Note: The above quote was verified for authenticity by Josh Sugarmann, spokesman for the Violence Policy Center and the Brady Campaign, via email to me on 26 April 2007. But what is truly disturbing is that the organizations that Mr. Sugarmann represents, not only verified the authenticity of this statement but AGREED with its’ content.
Now you have the true political agenda of those advocating “gun control” (read here:
TOTAL CONFISCATION).

While on the subject of nut cases;
Just how would you classify some arrogant Communist who comes to a Conservative site and posts CodePink talking points laced with insults to the author along with snide remarks and name calling to Conservatives?

Might he be some kind of mental case with such low self esteme he needs to resort to anonymous insults to strangers to give himself a false feeling of self importence?

Should we be PC to these pathetic perverts or are they more worthy of our comtempt?

To Ken in Tennessee
Actually she is making fun of Democrats for trying to get a law making it illegal to own a gun if you are mentally ill. If you look at my 09:33 post you will see that it has been illegal for mental cases to have guns since 1968.

So Democrats are working on a law that is already a law.

Democrat Avenger,

"Sort of like the Old West..you guys are morons.."

You are exhibiting your ignorance of the subject and of history. There were a lot more shoot outs, "Sort of like the Old West", on Hollywood backlots than in the reality of the 1800's. Screenwriters from Brooklyn receive their Western History educations from comic books written by failed screenwriters that didn't make it in H'Wood and returned to New York to write for comic books.

I'll make you a deal "DA", I'll surrender my 2nd. Amendment rights if you lefty's will amend the Constitution that abolishes the army and absolutely prohibits the government from conscripting any person into the military. Deal? Think about it.

A little confusing
I admit to being somewhat confused here. Is Ann saying that it's a good idea for the mentally ill to be allowed to purchase weapons? A bad idea? Or just that we should criticize liberals for thinking its a bad idea? Enlightenment anyone?

Democrat Avenger
Nice strawman argument against allowing citizens their Constitutional right to bear arms. We could suppose anythuing we want opposite of your supposition and arrive at the result we want. You might try actually learning some things about this subject. I suggest you read John Lott's "More Guns Less Crime" and "The Bias Against Guns" to help you make a more informed argument. Despite all of you fears of drunken gunfights the facts show that where there is the possiblity of the intended victims being armed whackjobs like Cho or even common criminals find somewhere else to wreak their havoc. And those who are trained in firearms have a good deal more respect for the weapons they carry then you allow.

Re: To All Liberals
Vic says that the same people who state that we can’t find and deport 12 million illegal aliens maintain that we can find and confiscate 300 million firearms. Well here's a Challenge to these same Libs:

Set aside the fact gun control has been a failure in every country it’s been attempted. Here are a few “INCONVENIENT TRUTHS” that Gun Grabbers refuse to deal with in their Delusional Fantasy of a "Gun Free Society".

Fact #1: There are, as vic stated, 300 Million Registered guns in the U.S. plus an estimated 120 Million Unregistered. By the end of 2007 it's estimated a mind boggling HALF BILLION guns in private ownership according to the DOJ. 1 out of every 3 households now own guns, and increasing. Libs in big city Blue States have trouble accepting these FACTS, as they often don’t know any gun owners. But these DOJ numbers correspond to National findings, where in Red States, gun ownership includes a MAJORITY of homes. The DOJ admits it couldn't put even an insignificant dent in these numbers, if called upon to do so.

Fact #2. In the unlikely event law enforcement or the military were charged with the DANGEROUS task of gun confiscation, there is a major problem. Police officers and the military are overwhelming Conservative, and as such, believe in upholding the Constitution, including the 2ed Amendment. I should know. I’m a former Police and Military Officer, now retired. I’ve questioned many of my fellow Military and Police Officers, and ALL state that as a result of the law suit and public relations disaster resulting from the Hurricane Katrina gun confiscation, they’d refuse to carry out confiscation orders; even at the risk of their careers or court martial. All have told me that such enforcement would not only be Unconstitutional, but require entering the homes of neighbors, friends, and relatives, many of whom own guns, to carry out confiscation. This they could not do. Then there’s the risk of being shot by people like me who would not hesitate using DEADLY FORCE to protect their 2ed Amendments rights. The so called “war on drugs”, which HAS the cooperation of law enforcement, is a massive failure. Think of the failure gun confiscation would be with very limited to no enforcement. And an unenforceable law essentially ceases to exist.

FACT #3: The only alternative left to Libs is their ULTIMATE GUN CONTROLL AGENDA: REPEAL 2ed Amendment, as was done with the 18th. But keep in mind the Volstead Amd. was universally UNPOPULAR. The 2ed Amd. has strong support. In March 2007 the DC Appellate Court ruled the 2ed Amd. is an INDIVIDUAL, NOT A COLLECTIVE RIGHT. Keep in mind the 1st 10 Amendments are known as “The Bill of Rights”. As such, they’re viewed as almost sacred, and far more resistant to change, (has never been done), than the remaining 17. So any attempt to get 38 States, (ALL Gun Friendly), plus Two Thirds of the House and Senate to repeal it is a Lib Wet Dream Fantasy. In the foreseeable future the fantasy of a “Gun Free Nation”, will remain a FANTASY; believed only by the DELUSIONAL and the terminally STUPID. It won’t happen in my lifetime, yours, or your children’s. I won’t speculate on the far distant future. By then it won’t concern us. Till then, DREAM ON LIBS. In the mean time, I offer this challenge: EITHER SHOW ME A PRACTICAL WAY TO IMPLEMENT YOUR FANTASY, OR SHUT UP! So far, no Lib has been able to answer my challenge. AND I CHALLENGE ANY TO DO IT NOW. And we now hear from Gun Grabbers the deafening roar of ....SILENCE!!!



Robert E Lee
You are right and both of them are wasting their time and money for that matter

AreDNmYheaD
Yeah hell why didn't I think of that - and everyone uses tragedies for political footballs so again two wrongs make a right - what I was pointing out is that both Annie and Rosie make their money stirring the cauldron - both of them ride a broom also

The Difference Between the Left...
...and the Right: "Liberals go to therapy. Conservatives go to church." That says it all.

Here a Law,There a Law
The patchwork left needs to repair all their past demolition.With duct tape in hand they attempt to repair mistakes made has they stretched the fabric.The fabric that secures,protects,and enables Americas perpetuity.Their agenda,and policies,since the 60's has destroyed individual responsibility for each other.In doing so they destroyed responsibility for America.They now find themselves needing to pass laws to do what the people should be doing anyway.The left,and their speculative actions,kept everybody warm,and fuzzy,has they lived unconcerned.They created a public secured by law,protected by law,in perpetuity.A Paper Tiger whos life depends on the strength of duct tape.

To all liberals
Since you are back arguing for gun control, I repeat the three arguments:

1. The same people who state that we can’t find and deport 12 million illegal aliens maintain that we can find and confiscate 300 million firearms.
2. Copycat crimes at other schools across the nation are abounding. Therefore we must treat the first amendment in the same manner as we treat the second amendment:
a. There must be a 5 day waiting period for posting news stories on violent crimes.
b. These stories must be registered with a local dealer in news and can not be sold via the mail or over the internet.
c. Only non-felon people who are citizens over 21 may buy and read newspapers.
d. One can not buy more than 1 newspaper each month.
e. Automatic newspaper vending machines are forbidden if built after 1986.
f. Since Television news can not be adequately regulated, it is hereby forbidden.
3. Drugs such as narcotics and marijuana have been illegal for the last 100 years. We have spent hundreds of billions of dollars to prevent the sale and use of these drugs and yet one can walk 1 mile out of the White House in any direction and buy these drugs. What makes the gun grabbers think that if today we totally outlawed all guns that the criminals would not have guns while honest people would not?

free speech
Did you ever notice how the libs look at freeat free speech.Whenever a coservative speaks they throw pies and shout them down as per Ann coulter and others

johninoregon
"I would suggest that this hyperbolic harridan steer well clear of topics where she feels compelled to refer to other people as "nut cases." People who live in glass houses...."

Since you make no mention of any of her arguments. You must be in agreement with her arguments then.

MyOpine
The lib point of view:
They may have broken 100 anti-gun laws it doesn't matter if we have 101 laws, that would be the line in the sand the criminals and nut cases just will not cross and then we will all be safe.

Guns do not...

... kill people. Abortion clinics (read: feminists) kill people.

http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/policy/abortion/graphab.html

liberal_lover
That would be nice, in a perfect world. However, gun laws do nothing more than disarm law-abiding citizens, while the criminals still have guns.

Tell me, how well do you think the drug laws have fared in getting illegal drugs to disappear? Not too well, have they?

Ann's glass house
I would suggest that this hyperbolic harridan steer well clear of topics where she feels compelled to refer to other people as "nut cases." People who live in glass houses....

sardine101
"Ann has proved again that she has no shame - trust her to take a tragedy and make a political football out of it"

Ok, so what. People have been making political footballs out of tragedies since politics was invented. No one can claim innocents to this.

It so happens that this tragedy is an almost perfect example of why the second amendment needs to be protected.

"what is the difference between her and Rosie"
Ann has a well thought out argument fortified with facts expressed in her irreverent style that irritates lefties that would ignore her views and attack her personally no matter how she articulated them.
Rosie spouts off with no logical discourse to get attention to herself and any actual view she holds is secondary.

Gun Laws protect you?
I seriously doubt %1 of the people who keep demanding more anti-gun laws can even list the number of anti-gun laws Cho violated in the process of killing those students.

I would not even know where to start on the list.
From lied on the purchase application to discharging a firearm within the city limits?
I bet it is even unlawful to shoot people in VA.

When will Gunophobes learn laws that are enforced AFTER the crime is committed do not PROTECT anyone.
YOU are the only person who can protect yourself from violence.
Police who arrive long after the violence is over and fill out a form can't undo the suffering or humiliation of a home invasion or even erase bruises from a beating or bring you back to life.

Words in a book that violent criminals often don't even know exist, even IF they could read them, will not deter crime in any way.

Extreme nut cases
Maybe we should ban extremist liberals and conservatives from owning guns. To me, most of them are such ideologues that they've lost all touch with reality and common sense.

domestic violence and guns
Here in Carmel, IN, a man twice arrested for domestic violence, beat his wife to death a couple weeks ago. Good news, NO gun involved.

SUPPORT FIST CONTROL.


No Shame
Ann has proved again that she has no shame - trust her to take a tragedy and make a political football out of it - what is the difference between her and Rosie - well about a hundred pounds - blonde hair - and oh yeah she is a conservative - stirs her cauldron for a living - doesn't work like honest folks - but she sure know how to push the conservatives buttons

jerubaal & The Don
jerbaal wrote:
"It becomes a philosophical question after they have their sex change operations."

You take Ann out of the equation, leaving rosie, chelsea and helen thomas, they would become homosexual no matter what they do. Philosophically speaking of course.

The Don, you could be right, I was surprised at how fast the pro second amendment answer to this incident came out and how well it was articulated.

hang-tyme's condescension
I probably shouldn’t bother with this at all, but can’t help it. Through Hang-tyme’s studied condescension, which hangs like a miasma of swamp gas throughout his/her postings, is a clear acknowledgement that he/she doesn’t believe that throwing pies in the face of any speaker is de facto stifling. This type of behavior – interrupting speakers, demanding they be thrown out and not allowed to speak – is endemic among liberals. They cannot bear to have another point of view even considered, if it opposes theirs. Now, before the inevitable responses come, I’m willing to admit that conservatives have indeed resorted to such puerile antics, but the comparison is telling. It is relatively rare for a liberal speaker to be shouted down or attacked in a public venue, yet it has become so normal as to be unremarkable that these attacks are directed towards conservative speakers, military recruiters and the like. Clearly, the liberals do not trust that the courage of their own convictions can be shared if challenged in any way.

Ann on the View?
Too bad babawawa doesn't have the intestinal fortitude to put someone like Ann on the View.

But then Ann would have to get over that really bad case of manners she exhibits by ceasing to speak when she's thoughtlessly interrupted by those who think their thoughts are more important than allowing her to finish hers.

Not only that, but she would make all those other 'ladies' appear as though they needed a serious encounter with Slimfast.

AreDNmYhead
"Do you really think the 3 libs left standing would really be heterosexual?"

It becomes a philosophical question after they have their sex change operations.



And no, they wouldn't be flocking to Ann Coulter: at least . . . not within rifle range; that fine woman can shoot!

Yeah
I'm a conservative nut case, Don't try to take my guns away, I'll be the only one in the neiborhood with the ability to defend your stupid Lib AZZes against Islamonazis.

The Good Ole Days
Remember before the ACLU was running rampant and we were still allowed to put our mentally ill into insane asylums to prevent them from going out and shooting a bunch of people? Ah, good times. Now we have to respect their right to be crazy. I'm sure they would argue that it was just Cho trying to assert his right to pursuit of happiness that drove him to do what he did. It's too bad they aren't more into promoting the right everyone else has to life.

LIBs
Lets get to the real issue of the day... Elder's colunm. and then go to his Ap.12th colunm. I just can't wait. Love to here your talking points. Your BS about talking with them.. If only we leave them alone. We can get along if we get out of the ME.

Ralph
Savage didn't invent that. EVERYONE that isn't mental knows that liberalism is a mental disease.

She's right.
Nuts should have guns.

Until we amend the Constitution.

Right Again
Great article. Va Tech was a gun control Mecca (how's that for irony) whose policies were ineffective in stopping a killer. If this guy was a liberal as one of the posters surmised, every student on every campus should be packing, since our institutions of "higher" learning are so liberal rich. Savage may be onto something when he says liberalism is a mental disease.

"Dangerous" Dave
"all three of the heterosexual male liberals in America would be flocking to Ann."

Com on Dave.. REALLY now. Do you really think the 3 libs left standing would really be heterosexual. I'm sure jetpilot would be at least one of the three left.

Minimum Age
Federal law prohibits possession of a handgun by anyone under 18, but some states have established higher or lower age limits. There is no federal minimum age for possession of a long gun (rifle or shotgun).
Licensed Dealers (FFLs) are prohibited from selling handguns to people under 21, and long guns to people under 18. Unlicensed sellers may not sell handguns to people under 18, but there is no federal minimum age for buyers of rifles or shotguns. Some states have set their own age limits.

Jetpilot:
You are a piece of work, lady. Yes, Ann loves to bait you libs in. Yes, some libs have guns (but they won't be able to get them any longer after mental health checks if they outlaw moonbats with guns).

The NRA is powerful, but I won't blame them for pulling the triggers, just as I don't blame Oldsmobile for Mary Jo Kopechne's death.

The rest of your post just harped on Ann Coulter personally, so I think she struck a nerve with you.

What I like is the fact that if Ann Coulter, Helen Thomas, Chelsea Clinton, and Rosie O'Donnell were the last women on earth, all three of the heterosexual male liberals in America would be flocking to Ann.

To AreDNmYheaD
You're welcome. DA has already said enough when he writes his name "Democrat". You have to live in fantasy land to be a Democrat. (or at least 80 years old in the South.)

Liberal-lover
Your statement:
""No one should have guns, Law enforcement should only carry baseball bats. It worked for that guy in Walking Tall""

I have always wondered why liberals point to movies as if they were real life in order to make what they think is a valid point? But it guess it has to do with their shared psychosis that movies actually mirror real life.

The Walking Tall movies were based on a real life person....but most of what they portrayed, was in fact, FICTION.

And to refute your point. The guy portrayed in walking tall, was murdered, shot to death, before his term as sheriff ended. So tell us again how a big stick defeats a gun?

Vic - Thank You for the Info
Hate silly arguments like the one DA makes. You got to be living in some fantasy land to come up with that stuff.

The Don
I think it is still too soon to know what is going to come of this. The MSM will re hash this at every opportunity for several more years. Didn't they just come out with a documentary on Columbine? How many years has that been.

To AreDNmYheaD
The following people are banned from owning a firearm under the Federal Gun Control Act of 1968.

- Anyone who has been convicted in any court of, a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding 1 year, excluding crimes of imprisonment that are related to the regulation of business practices.
- Anyone who is a fugitive from justice.
- Anyone who is an unlawful user of or addicted to any controlled substance.
- Anyone who has been adjudicated as a mental defective or has been committed to a mental institution.
- Any alien illegally or unlawfully in the United states or an alien admitted to the United states under a nonimmigrant visa.
- Anyone who has been discharged from the US Armed Forces under dishonorable conditions.
- Anyone who, having been a citizen of the United states, has renounced his or her citizenship.
- Anyone that is subject to a court order that restrains the person from harassing, stalking, or threatening an intimate partner or child of such intimate partner.
- Anyone who has been convicted of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence. (See the Lautenberg Amendment.)
- Anyone who is under the age of 18 for a shotgun or rifle, or under age 21 for a handgun. (See 18 U.S.C. § 922 (b)(1).)

The stuff on domestic violance was added fairly recently.

Democrat Avenger
Wouldn't you have been better off asking yourself. What could of happened if some people who already could carry weapons legally were allowed to carry on campus. Would they not of been in a better position to bring the massacre to an end? Stopping this crazy person who wouldn't have let the law stop him anyway?

Instead you ask some silly questions about arming 18 year olds. You may as well asked "what if worms had machine guns?"

Knee Jerk
Sure, ban guns for nuts.

It's a meaningless gesture that would have zero meaningful impact on crime or violence. "Nuts" are not always violent. "Nuts" are difficult to identify: what's the difference btwn a "nut" and a college professor who launches into a diatribe against the government and demands to be put on the terrorist watch list merely b/c some low level gov't functionary wanders into the Marxist zone known as the sociology dept?

This is the same as the ban on "Saturday Night Specials", which are used infrequently to commit crime.

This is the same as the ban on "cop-killer" bullets, which are used in an infintessimal (sp?) number of assaults on peace officers.

This is the same as the Brady Bill ban on assault rifles, which, again, are rarely used to commit crimes. Why would one buy (or obtain) an AR-15 when one can modify a Tech-9? The latter is easier to conceal.

This is naught but a knee jerk response to an atypical heinous act. The false positives and false negatives, which would render this proposed ban draconian in its negative effects, with no commensurate positive effects, are prohibitive.

Sometimes, people are merely evil. Seung-Hui could have combined various easily obtainable household chemicals to create a series of bombs. Shall we ban the sale of kerosene to "nuts" as well?

Again, guns don't kill people; people kill people (sometimes with planes, carbombs, guns, knives, SUVs, poisons, hazardous materials, fire, telephone cords, shoe laces...).

MajMT
Thank you for clearing up for me what the age limit is. I figured DA was making a straw man argument

To Democrat Avenger
Ann has been cleared of that Democrap lie long ago. It does no good to repeat your lies here, we are not the MSM and we will not believe your lies if you keep repeating it louder.

To Democrat Avenger
Before the Feds passed their anti-gun laws there were plenty of 18 year-olds with guns. There was no problem then. Now there is still plenty of 18 year-olds with guns, except that they are ALL crooks and gang-bangers.

Like I said, plenty of emotion and NO facts.

sorry, mute should read moot
oops

Hard thought
The townhall hero Ann coulter is the plagerist I am referring to. Whether Churchill is or not I don't care but I don't see any of his articles here today. In fact only one of these plagerist is a regular contributor to Townhall of these 2...

Democrat Avenger...
Current laws prohibit those under the age of 21 from owning or possessing a handgun; fewer than 40% of those between the ages of 21-30 have permits to carry concealed weapons. VA Tech, as could other schools, still prohibit the carrying or possessing of firearms in the dorms, where a vast majority of the cavorting and use of mind-altering substances occurs, on campus. Still, only one the significantly small number of over-21-legally-having-concealed-weapons-permits-and -carrying-a-legal-firearm could have stopped Cho in his tracks. Lord-knows the umpteen-thousand gun laws and regulations didn't prevent his actions.

Democrat Avenger
I don't know allot about gun laws so correct me if I'm wrong. Are not 18 year olds already allowed to purchase guns but, just not have them on campus? Are not most of the bars and hangouts for the students also already off of campus? I believe your concerns of 18 olds with legally purchased and licensed weapons on campus has already been shown to be mute.

Also I believe quite a few of the victims of this insane person were well over 21 years of age. Would it be okay for profs to arm themselves if they wish? Or someone over 21? Or does everybody have to be an easy target for the next insane person.

Ann is the best
I saw Ann Coulter debate janet reno a year or so ago. Of course it was at a liberal university and the libs were out in force. What was truly sad is that reno was not up to the task. She looked and acted very, very frail. As reno spoke her usual drivel the libs in the audience cheered. When Ann spoke they were downright rude. The few conservatives in the audience didn't have a chance. My point is, she is NOT the viper that the left paints her. She really held back. When reno railed on about the war and the senseless killing Ann countered her by asking her to defend the murder of over 180 Americans at Waco. We, the few, cheered.
I would love to she her debate somone worthy. If given a chance to see and hear her in person, it's worth the cost of the ticket.
Bravo, Ann

IMO
No one should have guns, Law enforcement should only carry baseball bats. It worked for that guy in Walking Tall

Democrock Aventer
Ward Churchill wrote this?? I thought it was Ann.

To which plagiarist are you referring?

You Need to Rethink This Ann
If the Democrats want to pass laws making it legal to lockup anrgy or strange people, I say more power to them! After all, this would take Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Charles Schumer, and pretty much the rest of the Democratic Caucus out of the picture indefinitely. They have all been in a state of rage for at least 6 years now, which certainly should merit a "Costanzitis" diagnosis and they routinely express their anger in public.

Vic
NO repsonse to allowing an entire campus to be armed? Yeah that's lots of emotion. What about arming 18 yr olds? Nothing there either?..Yeah again 2 extremely 'emotional' questions.. Typical rightwinger..brought to task and then fall into the old GOP/Hush talking point "libs and emotions".. as predicatble as the sun rising in the east.

What media?
Ann Says:

"the media's demand that they enact new gun control laws"

There is no "the media."

Since she doesn't specify her claim, the article, as is typical of a Coulter rant, is easily dismissed as another 3 point attempt into the round file.

To Democrat Avenger
Just like a typical liberal, full of emotion and invective and short on facts. Are you jealous because the Federal laws will not allow you to buy a weapon?

Gun nuts argument
If there were mor guns then there would be less crime. My favorite argument over the last few days is that if someone would have a gun on the VT campus less people would have died. The clamoring from those on the right that "if the libs hadn't insititued a policy on campus that infringed on the 2nd amendment less people would have died". That got me to thinking. Let's assume the nuts win out on this we would have a new gun population conisting of 18-22 yr olds. Many of which who have never been away from home nor do they have a lick of common sense. So are friends on the right want to arm them. So the drunken parties on campus will include guns and young people getting loaded. Nice thought.. So the same people who propose thie ridiculous argument are ok with sending their kids off to a college dorm where there will be other kids with guns. Of course don't forget those kids who go through that inevitable break up with a person for whom they love.. We all know that kids can control thier emotions well without guns so let's just introduce them into an extremely emotional situatiuon... with a 19 yr old.. AHH let's not forget the jealous boyfriends/girlfreinds who do don't want others to seek what they have..so instead of a fight they can just shoot it out in the courtyard.. Sort of like the Old West..you guys are morons..

Lynne
I know!!!

There will be more situations like that too, just wait and see.

The thing is, and I feel pretty confident when I say this, that after what teenagers have learned about the VT case, some of them will try to mirror it for attention. Perhaps this kid did.

I remember in the late 70's/early 80's a TV movie came out about a girl who became anorexic called Best Little Girl in the World, and the crap she went through.

Well, my entire 6th grade class saw it and instead of saying "Wow anorexia stinks!" , each girl wanted and tried to be anorexic for the attention. Girls were taking diet pills and throwing away their un-eaten sack lunches in front of all of us to prove they too are falling down a spiral of self-abuse. It was laughable because we'd see them in McDonalds chowing after class. But you see this mentality I speak of?

Some kids are future Cho's but the vast majority are not, and chose to assimilate the negative behaviors which could bring instant attention to themselves. This kid who got arrested could be one of those. Or maybe not. No one knows but it seems for that high school they're not taking chances.

There will be more to that story, I'm sure. Wil the school get sued? Will the kid get expelled? Will other kids do the same thing for the attention? We shall see.




AudiR10
I agree with your concerns over who decides what behavior warrants imprisonment. I am reminded of the rampant paranoia which was prominent during the police state heyday of Stalinist Russia. Parents and children, friends(?) and neighbors turning each other in to the secret police, who,under cover of the night, spirited the accused away, most of them never to be heard from again. The idea that some libdolt could drop a dime on me for "dangerous and threatening thought and speech" leading to my summary, unappealable incarceration makes me feel like it's my nuts in the crosshairs.

I support not allowing wingnuts
to buy guns with proper due process. That is legal. All other gun control laws are unconstitutional.

I also support shooting back at wingnuts instead of apologizing for being alive.

Ann with a View
Ann, I think you should replace Rosie on the View! They say they need a strong and confident personality....

Great Article.

NRA supports this also?
That's weird that the plagerist left that out.. I guess it was an oversight..

Re: the picture caption
Not to interrupt the fascinating debate on Ms. Coulter's relative femininity, or the one about countering free speech with assault, but did anyone else notice that the photograph accompanying this article refers to "the gunman", without deigning to name him? Nice touch, I thought.

Hang-tyme,
I just want to say that your handle is very, very clever. I'm too dumb to understand it, but I can tell that it's clever.

And you seem relatively smart for a liberal -- sort of like a dumbed-down, liberal version of Ann herself!

Please don't beat me.

Just in: Free Creepy Speech No More
I wrote this post on another article, but I'm going to copy it for you because it fits with this. I just heard it on the radio this morning and apparently freedom of creepy speech is cause to be arrested, see below:

I live in Illinois, and on the radio this morning I heard they have arrested an 18 year old high school student because of a paper he wrote for class.

It was an assignment given by the teacher to "express yourself" and he did, and it happened to be in their opinion "Cho Style."

Now they haven't disclosed what exactly he wrote, but there were no threats against anyone specifically. But because he wrote something that was now considered questionable, they arrested him. No joke. Look it up, no name was given but it was a school I believe in Cary, Il, or at least it had the name of Cary in it.

So the kid is arrested for writing, and the students are all protesting for his release. I'm not judging either party, but isn't it interesting what's happening here?

Maybe this kid could've been a Cho, maybe not, no one will ever truly know until it's too late. But if he isn't, and just simply wrote his thoughts of being a typical teenager who hates everything, now it's viable to be arrested right off the bat? No investigation, no counseling, nothing at all. Just arrested.

Let's say he is truly a future Cho and the authorities did the right thing with hindshight being spot on, isn't it interesting that the students protest on his behalf for his release?

This is the future.


WELL, NOW
Billie Boggs was eventually taken off the street and sent to a hospital.
When they brought her into court she was covered in body lice, feces and completely incoherent.
If memory serves me right, Ruth Bader Ginsburg was one of her attorneys from the ACLU.
Body lice,covered in feces and incoherent. So much for the ACLU's idea of 'personal dignity.'

Adam's Apple Obsession
Funny how with all the beauty there is to see in Ann, some people focus on her adam's apple and assert she's a "man".

Well... if she is a man, I must be going "gay". :-)

Nuts in the crosshairs
Oooops! Make that "It is the inalienable right of all living creatures. And can never be disREgarded"!

Nuts in the crosshairs
Self-Preservation is the First Law of Nature;
http://gunshowonthenet.com/2ALaw/LawsofNature.html

It is the inalienable right of all living creatures. And can never be disgarded, regardless of condition or degree. "The Laws of Nature and of Natures God" are the very foundational basis upon which ALL American government is founded.

And, since "the right of Self-Defense" was also considered as part of "The First Law of Nature".
http://gunshowonthenet.com/AfterTheFact/RightofDefense.html
As well as looked upon by many of the founders as "the Palldium of Liberty". It can reasonably be assumed that it was among "the blessings of liberty" meant to be "secured" by We The People's Constitution. Which provides a whole new meaning to the words "shall NOT be infringed".

"The defence of one’s self, justly called the primary law of nature, is not, nor can it be abrogated by any regulation of municipal law.
This principle of defence is not confined merely to the person; it extends to the liberty and the property of a man: it is not confined merely to his own person; it extends to the persons of all those, to whom he bears a peculiar relation -- of his wife, of his parent, of his child, of his master, of his servant: nay, it extends to the person of every one, who is in danger; perhaps, to the liberty of every one, whose liberty is unjustly and forcibly attacked. It becomes humanity as well as justice."

- James Wilson, 'Of the Natural Rights of Individuals', 1790-1792 (Signed the Declaration of Independence and the U.S. Constitution, Congressman, Delegate to the Constitutional Convention and Supreme Court Justice).

It is my contention that "shall NOT be infringed" means precisely that which is written. And, that there are no legal means by which our right can be "abrogated". It exists in spite of the government, and is "inalienable".

Peppermint
Now that was mean of you. Anyway, I give her the benefit of the doubt. It's just that the adam's apple makes you wonder. Regardless, that's still no reason to confine my next to murderers and rapists.

Black and White Brian
I've never seen such an extensive vocabulary give way to such empty rhetoric. You didn't say anything, but gosh you sound intelligent not saying it.

Concerning what I said to Lestat, if you think liberals stifle free speech, then your problem should be with him; not me. After all, it was Lestat (your fellow conservative) who stated that liberals enjoyed a lovefest with free speech. Wasn't it I that corrected his misguided (sarcasm) position? You've obviously mastered the art of bloviating, however, in the future you may want to focus more on comprehension.

As for being a part of the lower 75% of the bell curve, we all have to be somewhere. You know Brian, the Ugly Duckling never realized his beauty until he found a family of swans, of which he belonged. Cling to your right-wing circles, lest you discover your stupidity.

And here endeth my contribution do disabusing your images of grandeur. Have a nice day.

Ann
great article as usual.
I can think of many dimocrap nuts that need to be locked up like dingy harry, howard, scream dean, and hang-tyme, who is especially loony since he thinks you are a man.

Pasadena Phil writes .....
.... that "Based on the tag-team rolling attacks the senior league TH columnists waged on Ann last month, there seem to be lots of illogical people on our side too."

Perhaps the real Truth is that while a person of absolute moral integrity -- and therefore of necessity, a conservative -- could never descend to pretending to be a "liberal," there are thousands of "liberals," most of them elected politicians, (including all the RINOs) who pretend to be conservatives.

Try to not project your goodness on to all you meet; remember that not all is as it appears to be -- and that, as the Master once observed: By their ACTIONS we shall know them.

Lynne writes ....
.... that she wonders "if the imams would be so pushy and threatening if they had reason to wonder how many on the plane had a handgun?"

And as a career aviator let me categorically state that there would NEVER have been even one hijack of an an American aircraft had our Second Amendment rights not been so criminally interfered with by more than seven decades, post-1928, of "Democrat" controlled congress, by the traitor Roosevelt and by his as-evil heirs and successors, including those still sat tyrannically upon the benches of far too many fiat feral courts.

I want -- and always have -- every passenger to be armed on every flight I ever command!

Hang-tyme (emotes) to LESAT ....
.... that he (felt that intelligent Americans, AKA "conservatives") .... think that (those who suffer the Socialist Psychosis want) to block free speech.

But he's wrong.

We don't "think" any such thing.

The evidence is clear. We know it to be so.

And as for the as asinine assertion that Ms Coulter "stifles honest dialogue?"

I guess that might makes sense to some of those whose numbers comprise the bottom 75% of the left wing of the Bell Curve. (also known as 'the "Democrat's" base')

But to the rest of us it that comment but provides reinforcement of the knowledge that everything descending from a point of departure buried deep within mental derangement will be as removed from reality!

And here endeth my Black and White contribution to this honest dialogue.

Ms Coulter writes of (off?) Rather ....
.... "This small measure would have taken Dan "What's the Frequency, Kenneth" Rather off the airwaves years ago, preventing him from presenting doctored National Guard documents to the American people to try to throw a presidential election."

This notwithstanding that Mr Rather's attempts to throw said election appear pale and puny when compared to the actual accomplishments of his mentor, fellow career subversive and co-Socialist International Geobbels Fellow, the execrable Herr Conkrite.

Who, despite being seriously handicapped by and having to surmount the assistance of the hapless hero, Lt, now Senator, Thorn-Heinz, threw a war.

Goshawk
They were beaten and arrested. Well I'm shedding no tears. BTW, I didn't know they were beaten, but I knew they were arrested.

Now why would the MSM want to bury this imformation Goshawk? The answer is they don't. Stop seeing conspiracies where none exist. Your neo-con paranoia is getting the best of you.

Your last sentence is that poorest attempt at a witty quip I've ever seen. Take lessons from the columnist writing this article. (S)he would never be caught making a snide remark that lame. Good Day.

Hang-tyme
I see the Liberal Moonbats are beginning to emerge from their caves!

For your information, the two Liberal A-holes that threw pies at Ann Coulter were caught by her body guards and beaten so bad they both went to the hospital. And when they got out both were prosecuted for Assault. But of course, the biased Liberal news never let that little piece of info become mainstream. Can't have a Liberal looking bad now can we.

Liberal Moonbats constantly distort or ignore the facts as you've done here. Using one of the methods to stymie free speech and change the subject. You best quit Hangin round somken that tyme!

Big Sep,
You said, "John Edwards wants to change America."
Which of the "two America's" do you think he is going for? Haha. We all know it won't be the one HE lives in!

Steve,
I second your comment about Ann, Michelle, and Mary. Isn't it refreshing that they are not afraid to say it like it is? I still love it that Ann did not apologize all over the place for the comment she made about Edwards (and the context to Gray's Anatomy tv show.)She just kind of stayed back and let everyone else get all worked up about it. Wish more conservatives (writers, candidates, etc.) would STOP apologizing as the MSM dissects and twists their words to fit the liberal mentality. Newt Gingrich would have been much further ahead had he just told the MSM to take a hike when they criticized him for his "English in America"
remark.

By whose definition?
Strange and Angry in whose opinion? In my opinion, and everyone on prime time television would be safely tucked away with only foam rubber blocks to play with. Not to mention all rap and hip hop "artists" and three-quarters of the authors of modern fiction.

Add to that anybody who has ever chanted anything that began with "Hey Hey! Ho Ho!" or carried a sign comparing anybody to Hitler; anybody who has stood at the foot of the "up" escalator during rush hour "reasoning" with a screaming toddler as traffic piles up behind her, and the idiot who thought up "Take Our Children To Work Day."

On the other hand, I am probably on a lot of peoples' lists under "strange" and just about everybody on the 45th floor under "angry" because I am the one asking why it is that nobody ever replaces the paper in the copier or wipes up spilled coffee except me.

I have the feeling that if we start locking up all the strange and angry people, we'll all be behind bars by morning.

LESTAT
Au contrair my presumptious friend. The pie throwing fiasco was reprehensible and stifles honest dialogue. But then again, so does Ann Coulter. Had the perpetrator of this attempted assault been physically harmed, it would have served him right. But still, if someone must be hit with a pie, Mr(s). Coulter makes a delicious target.

BTW, I thought you right-wingers felt liberals wanted to block free speech. Oh well, maybe you forgot the neo-con talking points.

Hang-tyme
Youre proud of such despicable tactics being used to stifle the free flow of ideas? What ever happened to the liberal love-fest with free speech?

Magnificus
It seems the haters are apoplectic about Rosie being booted off The View, so maybe they're all busy venting at Daily Kos.

Lame
Must have been a slow news day. Conservatives shouldn't try humor.

Hey, Standtall - whatever happened to
that nut? Or does anyone know?

I do wish they would get the loonies off the streets and into somewhere they can't hurt themselves OR OTHERS.

Devilsnutbrush
What the he11 are you babbling about?

Suckers!

The NRA has sided with the dems on this issue. So all you self-rightous NRA members who feel some common sense gun laws are O.K., guess what. You just qualified for being rejected on your next gun purchase. Ha!

That's why the libertarians are not friends of the NRA. They sell your rights for political expediency just like the republicrats do.

I hope you all learned a lesson.

"Nut-free Zone"
Based on the time the comments started, this column was posted this evening. So the personal-attackers have plenty of time to show up.

It is certainly more enjoyable and interesting to read through the comments in a nut-free zone. Although I enjoy reading different points of view and how people support their opinions, the nutjobs and personal-attackers interrupt interesting and informative dialog. Sometimes it's a waste of time trying to scroll through the garbage. I rarely post a comment because somebody nitpicks it or directly insults me.

Ruthie: answering your question
Years ago, Dan Rather claimed he was mugged on his way home from work late at night, and tortured by his attackers, who Rather claimed kept asking him "What's the frequency, Kenneth?" as they kept beating on his sorry butt.

Most sane people think Rather was having a rather moonbeam evening after a rather large amount of moonshine.


Equi???
You wrote: "Are just trying to make sure that no sane person would ever vote for them ever again."

Again????

What sane person voted for them the first time?

GET A ROOM
Pardon me for intruding on this right-wing love fest, but I'm wondering if Ann (the man) Coulter will ever deliver a column short on rhetoric and long on substance.

Anyway, why not ban guns altogether and arm ourselves with a more effective weapon. I think pies, preferably Boston cream, should be an effective deterrant. Oh, you don't think so. Well it certainly turned Mr(s). Coulter into a track star during her speech at the University of Arizona.

Politicians are Funny Folks
Actually, Ann has a great sense of humor. Just ask John Edwards.

If you're into original political jokes -- like Hillary and Harry stuff -- come visit me every morning at my site. Click on name above and bookmark the site. Here's a sample of what's up now.

Barack Obama gave another of his foreign policy speeches that was greeted simultaneously by a standing ovation and a multitude of puzzled looks.

Word is out that Hillary Clinton is doing her Southern accent thing again. The real controversy will come when she shows up in blackface.

Some people worry there might be embarrassing stories about Fred Thompson’s romantic episodes with actresses. But are most Hollywood starlets really into tell-alls about dating a slightly overweight, balding, older guy who talks funny.


A poll came out today that said only 15% of Americans know what it is that Harry Reid does. I wish they’d let the rest of us in on the secret.



Don't get me wrong...

The 'personal attack parasites' will still come around (eventually) BUT the Libs who like to argue have been left with no "whipped cream" to fight back with when Ann is spot on.

Tough to argue a point with the truth staring you down I suppose. And if there is ONE thing that terrifies Dem-Libs it's TRUTH. They close their eyes rather than see or read it or cover their ears so as not to hear it...and if the din of TRUTH becomes too loud for them mot to hear they shout "I'm not listening!" over & over again hoping the truth will just go away.

Now THAT'S CRAZY!

Thanks Ann, for making this a 'nut-free zone' (for however long it lasts) by citing the truth.

Ann is too nice....
Fact: the perp was an arsonist - a felony.
Fact: the perp was sending in written bomb threas - something they claim they didn't know was his doing, but still...

Arson is a felony. We can forget the concepts of mental illness, we can go with facts, he is an arsonist. And that is enough in MOST places o get expelled from school.

Expelled from school, not in school. Hence not able to shoot students - may shoot someoen else but won't shoot VT students....

I suggest we nail them for what they have done...

Just keep in mind...
...what what ultimately ended the carnage at VT.


Then think about what could have ended it sooner.

What strikes me is

That every time Ann hits the bulls-eye there are very few (on this one, so far none but there's still time) Left-wing Socialist/Dems around to answer the truthful 'accusations' she lays out.

Kinda makes me wish for a lot more Anns on TH.

Guns & mentally ill
My husband had Alzheimer's and when he became violent he was involuntarily committed to a lockdown mental facility. After he was released, I got an official document telling us he could no longer buy guns. This is in California. My experience with this disease & certain others has taught me that this is a good law and should always be enforced. When someone is demented--and Cho obviously was--somewhere along the line his name should have gone out to all gun dealers, including on the Internet, that he could not purchase weapons. He likely would have found them anyway, but society has an obligation to protect itself.

http://www.geocities.com/caregiving4alz

Thank you Ann ...
for your observations on the truly great American communities of Koreans, Italians and Cubans. They, with statistically few exceptions, have contributed the positive aspects of their cultures and values to create ours.
John Edwards wants to change America. IMO it is the government that needs a makeover.

government
Since the majority of government employees are liberal, we could free up a large pool of talented workers to clean the rooms at Motel 6 if we reduced just the size of the federal government to its proper level.

"The worst thing most nuts do is
irritate everybody else by driving their electric cars on the highway."

Absolutely hilarious.

As for the South Koreans, I wrote this on my blog this past Friday:

"I couldn't help but be struck by the reaction in South Korea over this incident. My first impulse was to think there's no need to apologize. Then I thought, while that's true, it's still a nice gesture. Finally, I couldn't help but be struck by the comparison of South Korea's response to the dancing in the streets in many Islamic countries after 9/11."

Speaking of, if you're interested in interviews with members of our armed forces serving in Iraq and Afghanistan, drop by my blog and check them out (just click on my name).

The Policies of the Left
I know this may sound strange, but didn't the court system declare this cho dude unsafe to the public by virtue of his mental illness? I believe they did. But, oddly enough the court finding was a sealed event. He was on medication. The police knew he was stocking other folks. And yet, the laws in that state prevented these different agencies from sharing any information. Kinda sounds familar. I know from my own experience in purchasing firearms, the questions asked on the application include: Are you an American citizen? Have you been arrested? Are you mentally ill or on mental health medication? The insta-check system is supposed to discover these and any other red flags an individual carries. Now what if the liberial court of that state was actually responsible and notified the police. The second handgun purchase would not have gone through. But , being responsible for ones actions doesn't fit the moonbat montra.

The Majesty of Ann
I recent wrote a piece on my site (click on name above) explaining why Mary Katharine Ham got invited to one of CNN's Sunday programs -- and why three other women who write for TH won't: Mary Grabar, Michelle Malkin, and Ann Coulter. The wonderfulness of Ann (and the other two) is that they refuse to "make nice" with the MSM. The refuse to cooperate. They aren't pliable. They speak the truly inconvenient truths that our society needs. Carry on, Ann, Michelle, and Mary. Resist the temptations, Mary Katharine.

steve

trojan140
Based on the tag-team rolling attacks the senior league TH columnists waged on Ann last month, there seem to be lots of illogical people on our side too.

BACK IN THE DAY
they did keep nuts locked up in the insane asylum. But that was before the liberals thought their civil rights were being violated.
Instead of keeping them in places where they could be fed, cared for and have a roof over their heads, they felt it was the wise, compassionate thing to do to let them out on the streets where they could eat out of garbage cans,panhandle agressively and terrorize the populace.
If anyone remembers years back, in New York City there was a woman who became the poster child for this whole movement. A woman by the name of Billie Boggs. The ACLU went to court and fought tooth and nail for this obviously disturbed woman to walk around the street having imaginary conversations with people who didn't exist. Steal from stores and to top it off, defecate right out in the street.
This was her inalienable right, they said. So what if she didn't want to take her medication.So what that if she was malnourished. So what if she got into scrapes and started fights with innocent schnooks who just happened to cross her path.
According to the ACLU,she was the price the rest of us had to pay for living in the society we live in.
Now last week, after the evil wrought by Cho, new caterwauling about tighter gun laws. Why was this guy allowed to buy a gun? Why isn't there stricter control?
Uh-huh. Like the laws they have now are not strict enough. Like the way you would discipline children - which is what liberals think we all are- they are going to take away our guns and send us all to bed without any supper.
Even in this format you had the typical yahoos - we all know who they are- screaming the real issue behind all of this is mental health care in the United States.
They have a point. These moonbats just forget to mention the problems with mental health care and mentally disturbed people walking our streets is a liberal libdolt creation.
Keep up the doing what you do best libdolts. When one of these nuts cross your path, employ sensitivity. Be compassionate.
Run fast.

Looney Behavior
I agree that legislation to lock up the "strange" and "angry" people would put most of the Democratic base in jail. (San Francisco would be a ghost town.) This is especially problematic on a university campus. If the campus police held a dragnet for the isolated loners, they’d get about 10% of the students and 20% of the faculty. If they went for the angry people with kooky ideas, that would be an additional 30% of the students and 70% of the faculty.

As Always, Ann is on the money
How can any logical thinking person disagree with what Ann says? Oh that's right, the left doesn't think logically. Silly me.

A true liberal
The truth came out at the beginning, but I haven't seen much about it since...

In spite of the guns, Cho was a true liberal.

What did he rail against--rich kids and Christians. Those are LIBERAL talking points.

Did people end up dead because he was educated in government schools? Insanity is the end result of the liberal mindset. The end justifies the means, and the opposition must be silenced by whatever means necessary.

LOL
Dan "what's the frequency,Kenneth" Rather.
What WAS that about??
rothflmao
Love you Ann


Speaking of "nuts"
Have you all heard that Rosie O'Donnell is leaving "The View"?

I wondered if she's allowed to carry.

Knee-Jerk
I agree, Ann, it seems that every time we have a tragedy, the first thing the Democrats want to do is blame somebody and pass another law to infringe on more rights of Americans.

You know, this is 2007---the 21st Century. Don't these people ever learn anything from their mistakes? [They've certainly got plenty to choose from.] Can't they come up with a logical idea once in a while? Failing those, won't they ever shut up?

It's still early tonight, so the vocal crazies haven't shown up yet---but they'll be here. They'll be here, and the games will begin. In the meantime:

What does ACLU have to say about the latest Democrat offering? Imagine? The Bill of Rights as Modified by 21st Century Democrats---have it our way, or don't have it at all!

No, the Liberals will be too quick in their attempts to certify their Conservative friends as mentally ill in order to restrict their rights. Luckily, this new 'suggestion' can't work because it will never get off the ground. People won't stand for it, and it'll die the natural death it deserves.

Why don't we just simply things and declare Democrats/Liberals mentally ill [as they act that way], and we can be immunized against these ridiculous statements and "policy pronouncements."

Libs are just being libs
Whenever a liberal policy produces disastrous results the liberal solution is to do more of the same.

If high taxes are choking the economy the liberal solution is to raise taxes even higher.

If welfare is ruining the family unit among the poor the liberal solution is more welfare.

If strict control of public education by the government and teachers unions produces millions of "graduates" who can't even read their diplomas. the liberal solution is more control; outlaw home schooling and forbid school choice through programs like vouchers.

There is a virtually endless supply of examples.

So why should we be surprised that when a special "gun-free zone" policy on the VPI campus results in the murder of 32 people that liberals would presume to "solve' this problem with more gun control? Of course we're not surprised. Most of us could have predicted it.

And, as she always does, Ann points out the stupidity and impracticality of even imposing this "solution", let alone how it won't solve anything.

Now all we have to do
is have the Gitmo terrorists declared legally insane and the Dems will take care of the rest.

Nuts?
They aren't nuts. They are fruitloops in dire need of a rubber room.

fredo1
And that would be great!

Got it! Perfect metaphor for liberals!
Limp-wristed pie throwers. I know this is new to you Ann but they've been known to throw whipped cream at their "enemies" and they seem to miss everytime. That's the way they address all problems. Throw whipped cream at the Islamofascists, they miss. It would work except the target just refuses to cooperate. Maybe they could find an activist judge to rule that anyone who has a pie thrown at them is legally required to do everything possible to make sure the pie hits them in the face. What's crazy about that?

The Democrats
Are just trying to make sure that no sane person would ever vote for them ever again. Good job Dems keep up the good work.

Well done Ann!
And just think! If there there were a law to lock up people permanently for being mentally ill and potentially dangerous. Most Liberals would be in jail and all Democratic seats in Congress would be empty.
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