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Wednesday, January 24, 2007
Ann Coulter :: Townhall.com Columnist
I am woman, hear me bore
by Ann Coulter
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It's nice to have a president who is not so sleazy that not a single Supreme Court justice shows up for his State of the Union address (Bill Clinton, January 1999, when eight justices stayed away to protest Clinton's disregard for the law and David Souter skipped the speech to watch "Sex and the City").

Speaking of which, the horny hick's wife finally ended the breathless anticipation by announcing that she is running for president. I studied tapes of Hillary feigning surprise at hearing about Monica to help me look surprised upon learning that she's running.

As long as we have revived the practice of celebrating multicultural milestones (briefly suspended when Condoleezza Rice became the first black female to be secretary of state), let us pause to note that Mrs. Clinton, if elected, would be the first woman to become president after her husband had sex with an intern in the Oval Office.

According to the famed "polls" -- or, as I call them, "surveys of uninformed people who think it's possible to get the answer wrong" -- Hillary is the current front-runner for the Democrats. Other than the massive case of narcolepsy her name inspires, this would cause me not the slightest distress -- except for the fact that the Republicans' current front-runners are John McCain and Rudy Giuliani.

Fortunately, polls at this stage are nothing but name recognition contests, so please stop asking me to comment on them. "Arsenic" and "proctologist" have sky-high name recognition going for them, too.

In January, two years before the 2000 presidential election, the leading Republican candidate in New Hampshire was ... Liddy Dole (WMUR-TV/CNN poll, Jan. 12, 1999). In the end, Liddy Dole's most successful run turned out to be a mad dash from her husband Bob after he accidentally popped two Viagras.

At this stage before the 1992 presidential election, the three leading Democratic candidates were, in order: Mario Cuomo, Jesse Jackson and Lloyd Bentsen (Public Opinion Online, Feb. 21, 1991).

Only three months before the 1988 election, William Schneider cheerfully reported in The National Journal that Michael Dukakis beat George Herbert Walker Bush in 22 of 25 polls taken since April of that year. Bush did considerably better in the poll taken on Election Day.

The average poll respondent reads the above information and immediately responds that the administrations of presidents Cuomo, Dole and Dukakis were going in "the wrong direction."

Still and all, Mrs. Clinton is probably the real front-runner based on: (1) the multiple millions of dollars she has raised, and (2) the fact that her leading Democratic opponent is named "Barack Hussein Obama." Or, as he's known at CNN, "Osama." Or, as he's known on the Clinton campaign, "The Soft Bigotry of Low Expectations."

Mrs. Clinton's acolytes are floating the idea of Hillary as another Margaret Thatcher to get past the question, "Can a woman be elected president?" This is based on the many, many things Hillary Clinton and Margaret Thatcher have in common, such as the lack of a Y chromosome and ... hmmm, you know, I think that's it.

Girl-power feminists who got where they are by marrying men with money or power -- Hillary Clinton, Nancy Pelosi, Arianna Huffington and John Kerry -- love to complain about how hard it is for a woman to be taken seriously.

It has nothing to do with their being women. It has to do with their cheap paths to power. Kevin Federline isn't taken seriously either.

It is as easy to imagine Americans voting for someone like Margaret Thatcher or Condoleezza Rice for president as it is difficult to imagine them voting for someone like Hillary. (Or Kevin Federline.) Hillary isn't piggybacking on Thatcher because she's a woman, she's piggybacking on Thatcher because Thatcher made it on her own, which Hillary did not.

But the most urgent question surrounding Hillary's candidacy is: How will the Democrats out-macho us if Hillary is their presidential nominee? Unlike their last presidential nominee, she doesn't even have any fake Purple Hearts.

Sen. Jim Webb, who managed to give the rebuttal to President Bush's State of the Union address Tuesday night without challenging the president to a fistfight (well done, Jim!), won his election last November by portraying himself as one of the new gun-totin' Democrats.

He once opposed women in the military by calling the idea "a horny woman's dream." But -- as some of us warned you -- it appears that Webb has already been fitted for his tutu by Rahm Emanuel.

Webb began his rebuttal by complaining that we don't have national health care and aren't spending enough on "education" (teachers unions). In other words, he talked about national issues that only are national issues because of this country's rash experiment with women's suffrage. I guess we should all be relieved that at least Webb's response did not involve putting a young boy's penis into a man's mouth, as characters in his novels are known to do.

He then palavered on about the vast military experience of his entire family in order to better denounce the war in Iraq. As long as Democrats keep insisting that only warriors can discuss war, how about telling the chick to butt out?

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Nice try, Annie
Interesting bit of irony to open this bit of tripe with a ham-fisted jab at President Clinton's "disregard for the law," in light of the fact a bipartisan 11-member panel of the American Bar Association filed a 2006 report criticizing GWB for "flouting the Constitution and undermining the rule of law by claiming the power to disregard selected provisions of bills that he signed."

Nice try Annie, but we're not all Fox News stupid.

Hillary
will not get my vote for POTUS, basically due to the fact of her "Known Accosiates". So far I have yet to see a viable candidate for any office, however, the day is young. Thank you Ann.

Don't drink -or vote dem. But DO Sign it

Hillary went to Iraq.Who did she talk to? Jamil Hussein? Now she wants to gut the mission,ie; Betray the American Fighting Man.

Are you with her and ol' "leg-splayer" before me? Or are you with your protector,the sentry at the gate,the copywriter of security?

Support the American Fighting Man -
Sign the pledge - NOW

http://truthlaidbear.com/thenrscpledge/

soothsayer and the leftist ABA
Excuse me, soothsayer, but the American Bar Assocaition is nothing more than a left wing political organization that tries, falsely, to present itself as a professional organization. The nonsense about President Bush's so-called disregard for the law was one more piece of left wing advocacy; that's all. I once was a member of the American Bar Association (starting in 1976), but like a lot of former members, dropped that affiliation out of disgust with the blatant lefty politics of the outfit.

What triggered the specific nonsense by the American Bar Association panel to which you make reference was the President's actions in issuing signing statements to bills he signed into law. I write "nonsense" concerning the ABA panel's attack on President Bush because the President, as the Chief Executive under Article II of the U.S. Constitution has the responsibility of administering and implementing the laws, which invariably takes some interpretation. The President simply announced how he would read the law in administering it. That is not something upon which to base the rhetorical garbage of the ABA panel's report. To put it bluntly, the ABA panel showed themselves to be a bunch of partisan hacks.

The jab by Ann Coulter at Bill Clinton was not ham fisted. Bill Clinton was guilty of perjury and obstruction of justice; and he was suspended from the practice of law for five years. It is true that no justice of The U.S. Supreme Court attended the 1999 State of the Union Address by Bill Clinton out of his disapproval. In contrast, there were four U.S. Supreme Court justices at President Bush's 2007 State of Union Address.

Ann did more than a nice try. You, on the other hand, did not do a nice try.

Coulter, what's not to love
about this woman?
She comes from an era (as I do) during which alternate news had not yet come of age, when Conservatives were subjected to unhindered abuse from an even more liberal than now MSM and an unbridled Congressional autocracy.
The belittlement of Conservatives in public was a widely accepted practice.

Conservatives are still trying after years of therapy to recover from our own yes massa complex.
If this were not true, NeoDemoCons would not exist.

Her kick'em in the nads style is more than payback justified.
In fact if every Conservative kicked a single liberal in the nads each and every day, untold years would go before some semblance of payback could be achieved.

So just remember when she or any other Conservative sends a Liberal spiraling down in flames, it's not just turn abouts fair play, it's guaranteed leveling of the playing field under the affirmative action act or according to Wiki, positive discrimination.

In words any Liberal can understand; yu gots it com'n te ya.



Phil B
Re: "the American Bar Assocaition is nothing more than a left wing political organization"

The fact that you're paranoid doesn't necessarily mean we're not out to get you. Sleep tight!

Way to go Ann
Again.

To soothsayer
To soothsayer: I take it from your last comment about my being paranoid that you don't think that the American Bar Association is a left wing political organization. And the basis of that belief is what???

I wrote what I did based not on paranoia, but on my decades of experience as a lawyer. I am a graduate of the Harvard Law School, and I clerked for a U.S. Court of Appeals judge before starting in private practice 29 years ago. I have been dealing with what has been going on in the country's legal world for some time. I just attended today a session of the New York State Bar Association at which the supposed threat to judicial independence was discussed by a panel that included a past president of the ABA and the editorial page editor for the New York Times. It is a phony argument intended to protect activist judges and avoid dealing with the conservative critique of constitutional doctrine that has judges decide matters that the people should through their democratically elected legislatures.

The present point, though, is that I can speak with some knowledge about the subject of the American Bar Association. In contrast, all I have seen from you are snide comments lacking substance.

Very good Ann!
Your columns always guarantee a swarm of Liberal moonbats!

I will be waiting to see what her handlers will come up with to counter the statement below.

"But the most urgent question surrounding Hillary's candidacy is: How will the Democrats out-macho us if Hillary is their presidential nominee? Unlike their last presidential nominee, she doesn't even have any fake Purple Hearts."

Especially when the "Democrats keep insisting that only warriors can discuss war." As the Libs do on this forum.

To liberalgoodman
Ann's column had a lot of fun with Hillary Clinton because of Bill Clinton's foibles, but Ann did not call Hillary a dumb blonde.

Now that you have established that you don't read very closely or that you have poor reading comprehension, why don't you read Ann's column again (or for the first time). Warning: reading Ann is addictive, and you may end up persuaded.

Acerbic wit and all that ..
.. but it is starting to look like a Dem '08 victory.

The only question is whether it will be Hillary or Obama (or both).

And it shall follow, as the day follows the night that there will be:

* a retreat from the war on terror (on all fronts)

* Universal Health Care

* Minimum wage increase, and a host of other feel-good laws which will increase the burden on productive Americans

Republicans will fight a losing battle on all these fronts because we can't articulate a moral code that is based on self-interest.

Sorry Ann, you have an eloquent, tongue-in-cheek style - and I know that we're all supposed to be amused. But it doesn't seem very funny because the fit is about to hit the shan.

VOR
I am not so sure on the dem victory in 08, but a lib victory is a given, with the repub flock to RINOs and all.

Two things even Ann missed....
First, anyone remember Clinton's wars? The bombing of Belgrade? The bombing of the asprin factory? The other assorted adventures?

Did you see any Republicans saying any of the things you are hearing from the Democrats today?

Second, does anyone honestly believe that Teddy Kennedy's father Joe would have dared to say something along the lines of what Teddy did to FoxNewsSunday? Joe opposed WWII and didn't much like FDR but he wouldn't have dared to say stuff like Teddy did...

Ann is a light in the roach motel
I,too enjoy the liberaloonies that post on this site whenever her columns appear. What fun watching them try to re-arrange reality. They may as well p-ss into the wind. The wind always wins.

re: Clinton's other wars
I remember our continuing military presence in that place known as Kosovo. I thought was supposed to be a short run deal.

gc
well that shut sooth up. good job. now i will go back and read the essay.

Hey Soothsayer
Talk about irony...a Liberal Clinton-apologist is the first one to read and respond to the leading female conservative voice's article. And, as we (people obssesed with truth) all know, bipartisan is Beltway-speak for advancing a center-left to left agenda and for Democrats to feel better about undermining some aspect of American exceptionalism.

Bipartisan...like the 9/11 Commission which asked the woman responsible for building the proverbial "wall" between the FBI and CIA to sit in judgment of who was really to blame for the breakdown in intelligence leading up to 3,000 Americans being murdered by terrorists who wouldn't be allowed off the plane now thanks to the Patriot Act??? That kind of bipartisan?

Or maybe the bipartisan Iraqi Study Group, led by a man whose law firm represents the interests of multiple Middle Eastern, Islamic nations, and included Vernon Jordan (now where do I know that name from...), that just so happened to recommend the reason things are bad is because of America and Israel (and, oh yeah, the Muslim madmen hell-bent on destroying Western civilization as we know it)??? That kind of bipartisan?

Bush has committed no crime, save the politically incorrect one of being a strong male leader (capable of making mistakes) who is fighting an unpopular war that is more necessary than any of us even realize today. It won't be next month, and it probably won't even be next year, but someday, soothsayer, someday my friend you will wake up and realize that the reason you do not speak German or are required to turn towards Mecca and pray five times a day (for fear of death) is because strong men (and women) were willing to make the unpopular decisions when the imminent threats reared their ugly, turban-wearing, heads. And on that day, President Bush (and I) will not require or want and apology; no, what conservatives will ask you to do is get down on your knees and thank the God of Washington, Lincoln, and Reagan that you live where you do and, in spite of your own shortsightedness, have enough of us still here to save you from yourself.

Reason
Phil Byler, thank you for persevering 29+ years.

Never give up!

As for paranoia, the APA is just as deceptive as ABA.

Reason will prevail. As well as thought and logic... just not to Democrats.

Anne has a way with ideas and words, though, just not my words as a lady from the South...

Phil...
Thanks for bringing in some facts to the "discussions." Although I have heard and read things indicating that the ABA was becomming more and more another left-wing mouthpiece it is good to read from one who has inside information and facts. And to think the President still accepts the ABA's "opinion" on the qualifications of federal judges for appointment!

Kimberly
You seemed to have misunderstood my post. Or I did not make it clear enough. I'll try again.

I said, I will be waiting see what Hillary's HANDLERS would come up with. to counter this statement......

"But the most urgent question surrounding Hillary's candidacy is: How will the Democrats out-macho us if Hillary is their presidential nominee? Unlike their last presidential nominee, she doesn't even have any fake Purple Hearts."

No challenge was made to Liberals posting here to counter Ann.

I am a reader, hear me snore
Having nine lawyers not show up for a get together is a positive, not a negative.

Calling the husband of a candidate for President of the United States names is not an argument, it's childish.

Making fun of average citizens answering poll questions is not a liberal, it's a conservative.

Kimberly
What exactly did Cheney lie about? Deputy Sec of State Richard Armitage publicly admitted that he was the one who mentioned to Novak that Plame worked for the CIA. She was not a covert agent and therefore her identity was not protected by the Intelligence Identities Protection Act of 1982. Armitage also explained that there was no malice involved and he had not been told to do so by anyone.

This president does not stick his finger to the wind and run the country via poll results. It's called leadership. Lincoln used it well to win the Civil War, which was also constantly harped about by defeatists (including his own party) in Congress and didn't exactly poll well.

A "debacle"? So it has already been implemented and failed? Look up words in a dictionary before you haughtily use them to attack positions that you similarly do not understand.

You can say what you want about Bush, but even his staunchest opponents in the Democratic Party do not describe him as ungracious. On the other hand, what evidence do YOU have that suggests his acknowledgement of Pelosi's historic position was anything but gracious? And Bush was IN NO WAY "forced" to make a big deal of the fact, but he did it because he is a good-spirited person who is capable of giving credit where credit is due. Once again, you might be guilty of projection. Not everyone is as mean-spirited, petty, resentful, and intellectually dishonest as so many liberals have demonstrated themselves to be. Too many of them actually believe that Bush cannot and has not ever done a single thing right, or at least they can't admit that he has. That's an absurd position that is caused primarily by ungraciousness.

Can you explain what is historical about Hillary's candidacy? Is she the first woman ever to run for president? Didn't Carol Moseley Braun run just three short years ago? She didn't win her party's nomination, but then, neither has Hillary.

Would a "dimbulb" confuse the use of who and whom as you did near the end of your empty rant, or does a "dimbulb" only commit those errors that you do not? Further, would a "dimbulb" unleash an unreasonable, emotional rant, with NO facts to support her wild assertions, as a response to "Coulter's uber-shrill rant," which just happens to be full of verifiable facts?

Thank you, Kimberly, for once again providing the definitive example of moonbattery for those in the audience who may not yet have experienced it. If I didn't know better, I'd think your ridiculous posts were purely parodies of what a liberal might say.

What a poor, poor little dear - so confused. Bless her heart, I really do pity her.

Women's suffrage
My own grandmother once told me the two things that hurt America the most: Walt Disney's talking animals and women's suffrage.

The shift of power from the states to the fed is the reason she believed this. Granted, she still voted. She thought it was her duty to go offset a vote of some dingbat that was voting to turn over her responsibilities one by one, election cycle by election cycle, to the feddle gubmint.

She also grew up in a time when women knew how to clean and cook wild game since her family would have starved if she didn't. She was already in her 40's when Bambi hit the big screen and it was no longer socially acceptable to harvest animals for food.

My grandmother passed away in October of 1996, not long before Dole and Kemp lost their bid to unseat Clinton. However, she still managed to vote for Al Gore in 2000.

Blindfaith
We agree on the lawyer bit.

The "husband" happend to be the only President to commit perjury. Hillary and her minions play the "my husband was President for eight years of economic surpluses" card at every turn...so it is more than fair game for Ms Coulter to allude to it.

The average citizen watches American Idol, eats six spiders a year, and apparently cannot raise their own children without Liberals telling them they can't have ice cream in school lunchrooms.

You do the math.

Kimberly
If you want to learn how to present a sound argument, read Phil Byler's excellent posts. There you will find, among other things: facts; first-hand, eyewitness accounts; and logical arguments supported by sound premises.

Poor lil Annie...
All frustrated and angry. Stomping her feet and waving her fist. All mad cause the other girls are getting more attention then her.

Yeah I too hate leaders...riding the backs of others to their positions of power.


Not like our Noble president who built his own oil companies from the ground up, rescued those oil companies from his own bankruptcy, got himself into Yale, got himself out of his own DUI's x 2, got his police record for cocaine use cleared all on his own, bought his own baseball team with his own money, got to the front of the line in the Texas Air National Guard all on his own, found God all by himself, got out of his urine drug screen while in the guard all on his own, hid his AWOL status while in the Guard all on his own..with NO help from papa bear, got elected Governor all on his own, then President all on his own...I mean this guy built his own name...he's a self made absolute totally incompetent, blithering, illiterate, worst presidential ever screw up. And he did it all on his own.

Hey anyone know why Papa Bear Bush always seems to be crying in public these days???


Mr. Ecko
Dittos on the lawyer joke.

What concerns me the most, which probably led to the societal deficiencies you mentioned, is the indoctrination that has passed for education over the last few decades. The reason most Americans today cannot discern truth or formulate proper arguments is that they have not been trained to do so. If they could, liberals would not be able to thrust the kind of (emotionally-based) garbage they do upon the country.

I think the libs are confusing the trust conservatives place in Americans to run their own lives. That is not the same as saying we trust that they are not susceptible to dishonest propaganda, especially when most of them only tune in a few minutes a week to hear 20-second sound bites from the liberal MSM.

Annie's losing it...
...Oh wait she already lost it long ago.

Look at this rambling post she wrote...starts with women who made it on the backs of others and then some how goes totally tangential to rant on Jim Webb SOTU rebuttal.

I think she's gonna blow!!!! But at least it makes me happy to know how totally angry and frustrated and mad she is every single hour of her Earthly existence. It's almost like she's already in hell.

The Best Part
The best part of Annie C's columns are the reactions by all the usual lefty wing-nuts that post here at TH.

She has been called "shrill", "hateful", and "mean-spirited", blah, blah, blah. Shrill and hateful? You mean like when you idiots call Bush "Hitler"and conservatives are always called "Nazis", "bigots", or "fascists"? You mean that kind of shrill and that kind of hate? Or is it more like when Randi Rhodes of errAmerica ran a skit where Bush gets assassinated? All 10 of her wing-nut listeners probably broke out in applause.

Hateful lefty extremists attack people both verbally and physically at unversities all over the country with whom they disagree, cartoonist Ted Rall mocked the death of Pat Tilman and Ronald Reagan, and secular types routinely disparage Christians by mocking us or making outrage claims about us. I could go on and on and on about these advocates of compassion, tolerance and diversity on the extreme left in this country because this type of behavior is typical. You hypocrites don't like when Ann gets a little rough with you but you sure can dish it out though, can't you?

Guess what you can do about her columns and her views? Absolutely nothing.


Pirate consider yourself slammed!!
Pirate writes:

Two things even Ann missed....
First, anyone remember Clinton's wars? The bombing of Belgrade? The bombing of the asprin factory? The other assorted adventures?

Did you see any Republicans saying any of the things you are hearing from the Democrats today?





"No goal, no objective, not until we have those things and a compelling case is made, then I say, back out of it, because innocent people are going to die for nothing. That's why I'm against it."
That's right ... the one and only SEAN HANNITY, back in 1999, concerning Clinton's war in Kosovo! (April 5, 1999, FOX News)

Hannity likes to paint Democrats as lilly-livered, America-hating knee-jerk critics of the war. Thanks to Lexis-Nexis, I've found quite a few gems of Hannity's that show he was just as "America-hating" (har har) back in 1999. Here's some of my favorites below the fold...

wackyguy's diary :: ::
During the lead-up to the War in Kosovo...

"Why should one U.S. airman give up his life when our national security is not in imminent danger?"- Hannity, March 24, 1999

"Congressman Moran, a couple of things that are in my mind. Number one is the president has really failed to lay out before the American people the reasons why we need to be involved militarily. That's number one.
And then we go back to Henry Kissinger's test, which is number one, is there a vital U.S. national interest? And do we have a plan to disengage? What's the exit strategy? I don't see that we've met that test either. And why does it have to happen this second, this hour? Why don't we have a national debate first?"
- Hannity, March 24, 1999

"But you know what? There's a lot of massacres going on in the world. As you know, 37,000 Kurds in Turkey, over a million people in Sudan. We have hundreds of thousands in Rwanda and Burundi. I mean, where do we stop?"- Hannity, March 24, 1999
On Hitler analogies...


"My question to you is from all reports that I have been able to dig up, 2,000 killed in Kosovo in the last year. We keep hearing the president refer genocide, ethnic cleansing, comparisons to Adolf Hitler. Is the president purposefully using propaganda and hyperbole to garner the American public for support?"- Hannity, March 26, 1999
"And we are having a president compare this to Adolf Hitler. Granted, 2,000 in a year is disgusting, despicable, if we can stop it. But let's arm the Kosovo Liberation Army instead of putting U.S. troops in harm's way."- Hannity, March 26, 1999
"HANNITY: All right, Lucian Truscott, aren't you being disingenuous? Every day now with the president and vice president this Hitler analogy. You know what? That's all propaganda. That's misinformation.
Now, I'm not minimizing the fact that 2,000 lives have been lost in the last year. But you can't make the comparison in terms of the raw numbers and the brutality of Hitler to Milosevic. Is that not correct, Lucian?"
- Hannity, April 5, 1999
An ill-conceived war...


"Colonel, I guess this is why it's so ill-conceived from the very beginning. You know, they didn't anticipate that his popularity would rise. They didn't anticipate that he would beef up his reign of terror, if you will, against the ethnic Albanians. They didn't anticipate the refugee problem, and they didn't anticipate that they would also run out of bombs.
So it seems that we're talking about a very ill-conceived military action here. And now the question is, do you go in further and deeper, or do you pull back and rethink what the strategy's going to be here, because there has really been no stated goal, mission or objective."
- Hannity, March 31, 1999
We could possibly be the enemy...


"HANNITY: So they are looking at America, the United States -- we've seen the instances of flags being burned and so on. We are their enemy, you're saying, in the people's minds, and they support him."- Hannity, March 31, 1999
There's no exit strategy...


"But if you know - every mistake we've made up to this point, there's no stated goal. There's no definition of success. All these important things. There's no exit strategy. One mistake after another. Why would you go in deeper when we have not been successful up to this point? That seems to me to be folly."- Hannity, April 1, 1999
We've hurt them...


"We've hurt the people we thought we were going to help."- Hannity, April 1, 1999
Failed mission...


"Senator, let me ask this, here, because by all objective analysis and accounts -- we're going to have Colonel Hackworth out here in mere moments, right after the interview that we have with you here tonight -- this mission is failing."- Hannity, April 1, 1999



George Bush
So, let me guess, Ann thinks W got where he is because he is a self made man?

wooo hooo!

Kimberly
You say Iraq is a debacle. When was the last time you were there? I have been twice and I am getting ready to redeploy for a third. I would just like to know how much time you have spent there. If you have not been where to you get your info from? Reports that stay in the green zone?

I have a question for you that I have yet to get an answer for. Lets see how you do.

You are responsible for the safety of 300 million people. It is up to you and you alone. Evey major intel agency says he has WMD. He is a state sponsor of terror. He was trying to get yellow cake (Plame was full of poo, it has been proven). Your country has just been hit. You go into Afghanistan and many of the people leave the country and go to Iraq. Yes they were in Iraq, I killed them in the north along the Iranian border so I do not want to hear that garbage. I do not want to hear "well I would not go into Iraq." I do not give a rats butt in hell what you would not do, what would you do. Evey minute you do nothing your enemy trains. The absolute safety of 300 million people is yours and yours alone. You are dealing with an extremist culture that values death over life so negotiating with them is of little use, just ask Nick Berg. If you do negotiate, what are you going to give them and why?

What are you going to do to keep us safe?

"Dangerous" Dave
"Dangerous" Dave writes: Thursday, January, 25, 2007 12:16 AM
Women's suffrage
My own grandmother once told me the two things that hurt America the most: Walt Disney's talking animals and women's suffrage.
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You mean to tell me that animals don't talk?!

I'll tell my parrot to shut up.

muirgeo
I think it's pretty clear that Pirate was talking about Democratic Congressmen and the party's leaders, not any media pundit who opposes the Iraq war. Sean Hannity is not a Republican leader or office-holder.

The leaders of the Democratic Party have gone out of their way to be particularly viscous and irresponsible in their comments. Ted Kennedy said that Saddam's torture chambers have re-opened under US management, Harry Reid called Bush and idiot and other petty names, Dick Durbin compared our troops to the Nazis and Khmer Rouge, John Kerry said our troop were terrorizing innocent Iraqi civilians in the dead of night. Show me COMPARABLE statements from Republicans Party leaders or Congressmen regarding Clinton's actions. In fact, when some conservatives, with good reason, were questioning Clinton's timing in bombing Iraq - the day his impeachment trial was to begin - Newt Gingrich showed great leadership in praising Clinton's action as the right move and encouraged the entire country to stand behind the president.

Mountain Rose
Do parrots talk, or do they simply mimic sounds that humans make?

re: Mr. Ecko
"Talk about irony...a Liberal Clinton-apologist is the first one to read and respond to the leading female conservative voice's article."

If it makes you feel any better, I wasnt the first one to read the article . . . I stopped reading after the first paragraph.

Nor am I a Clinton apologist - I see no reason to apologize for a a great American leader and one of the best presidents of my lifetime.

To Phil (really great comments!)
But I must say to you and everyone else who thinks the same:

Maybe the ABA, AMA, NEC, PTA and whatever else ARE LIBERAL, whose to blame? Them for joining or you for leaving?

Those who do not fight for their rights, lose those rights. Those who want to IMPROVE the situation - stay and FIGHT. Or did you stay home in November?

No, I am NOT trying to 'pick a fight' Just trying to point out something that has been wrong for a VERY LONG TIME. I KNOW it is hard to hear all 'that twaddle' they spout, but if you don't listen, don't pay dues, YOU DON'T GET TO VOTE! And you can't change it, you don't have any say. But if you do stay and fight, maybe WE CAN CHANGE IT!

Lack of Committment
My folks are about to have their 60th wedding anniversary. How many celebrity or political women will have a lasting marriage(to the same spouse)for anything close to 60 years? Very few of today's crop from what I see. They just are not cut-out for long term relationships.

KF was not unusual. Brittany is not capable of marriage,only sex. In that way, KF was suitable for her. Brittany found her latest boyfriend on myspace.com. I think she wants only a compliant, warm body and not much else.

Oh OK...You stand corrected....
Lestat writes:

muirgeo
I think it's pretty clear that Pirate was talking about Democratic Congressmen and the party's leaders, not any media pundit....




Verbatim quotes from when Clinton was committing troops to Bosnia:

"You can support the troops but not the president."
---Rep Tom Delay (R-TX)

"Well, I just think it's a bad idea. What's going to happen is they're going to be over there for 10, 15, maybe 20 years."
---Joe Scarborough (R-FL)

"Explain to the mothers and fathers of American servicemen that may come home in body bags why their son or daughter have to give up their life?"
---Sean Hannity, Fox News, 4/6/99

"[The] President . . . is once again releasing American military might on a foreign country with an ill-defined objective and no exit strategy. He has yet to tell the Congress how much this operation will cost. And he has not informed our nation's armed forces about how long they will be away from home. These strikes do not make for a sound foreign policy."
---Sen Rick Santorum (R-PA)

"American foreign policy is now one huge big mystery. Simply put, the administration is trying to lead the world with a feel-good foreign policy."
---Rep Tom Delay (R-TX)

"If we are going to commit American troops, we must be certain the y have a clear mission, an achievable goal and an exit strategy."
---Karen Hughes, speaking on behalf of George W Bush

"I had doubts about the bombing campaign from the beginning . . . I didn't think we had done enough in the diplomatic area."
---Senator Trent Lott (R-MS)

"I cannot support a failed foreign policy. History teaches us that it is often easier to make war than peace. This administration is just learning that lesson right now. The President began this mission with very vague objectives and lots of unanswered questions. A month later, these questions are still unanswered. There are no clarified rules of engagement. There is no timetable. There is no legitimate definition of victory. There is no contingency plan for mission creep. There is no clear funding program. There is no agenda to bolster our over-extended military. There is no explanation defining what vital national interests are at stake. There was no strategic plan for war when the President started this thing, and there still is no plan today"
-Rep Tom Delay (R-TX)

"Victory means exit strategy, and it's important for the President to explain to us what the exit strategy is."
-Governor George W Bush (R-TX)

Moonbats
still don't get Ann's satire. They still keep ranting about "her" hate, anger, etc., when it's their hate and anger that is loud and clear.

annie
this is to peppermint: have you ever seen the look on annie's face whenever she just mentions the ex-president's name? next time she's on a talk show on h & c's just take a good look at how she comes across and her demeanor.

bonnie
I generally see her on H&C, but I haven't noticed any particular look. Gee, I hope Clinton doesn't get his feelings hurt if he sees that "look".

Oh muirgeo.....
is it too much to ask you to look at what Ted Kennedy has been saying, in public, about this war?

Things like a "Constitutional duty" to prevent the President from being the CIC in war. You still haven't produced anything along those lines by anyone, let alone anyone with an elected title.

Remember two other things if you would: First, after WW-II they asked the Japanese military leaders why they had attacked. The response: FDR's peacetime draft had only passed the Senate by one vote and the Japanese didn't believe that the US would actually fight. Remember also that the VietCong leaders are now old and talking about thier war experiences -- they are stating that their sole gole was to hold out from a certain defeat in hopes that the US would quit and that the anti-war movement was encouragement.

If you truly want to have a Republican boogeyman, take Lincoln. Lincoln was tossing people like Kennedy and Kerry and Clinton INTO JAIL without trial during the Civil War. Go read some of the Supreme Court Cases on that...
Well then, the "liberal" FDR was interning people in concentration camps - can you imagine W going out and interning Moslems?

And can you imagine Joe Kennedy saying any of the things that Teddy K currently is?

Kim, Drive, Sooth, LibGM
Kimberly Driveby, Soothsayer & Liberalgoodman...

I just realized this sounds like a Monty Python Law Firm.

Why, oh why, do you insist on sparring with poster who just mop the floor with you?

Artificial Intelligence, or Natural Stupidity?

muirgeo
Corrected? I asked for COMPARABLE statements, which I highlighted precisely because I anticipated the kinds of tame examples you just cited. And again, you quoted Sean Hannity! Did you not actually read my post? (Everyone: There's another reason he included that quote, and I'll reveal that reason later.) And besides, I was simply pointing out that you had failed to support your argument. I didn't claim that no elected Republican had uttered a word against Clinton regarding the war, which is what you seem to think you "corrected." In fact, you more or less admitted that I was right: your original quotations of Sean Hannity did not support your argument. So drop the smug, "Oh, OK..." and try to improve your reading comprehension.

The comments I cited inarguably provide propaganda for our bloodthirsty enemy and embolden them to continue fighting and killing American troops. What you cited is dissent from Clinton's policies, not over-the-top rhetoric that vilifies anyone.

Who in the world is Joe Scarborough? An obscure Congressman, not a prominent Republican. And his comment was about a war in which there was no US national interest at stake, only humanitarian interests. He didn't like the idea of spending "10, 15, maybe 20 years" in Bosnia when we had no security interest there. That's no minor point, and all the comments you cited should be evaluated in that light. That includes Hannity's statement: For what US national interest did our soldiers die in Bosnia? In Iraq, the reason has been given: to dethrone Saddam and create a secure and free Iraq that does not threaten its neighbors (invading Iran and Kuwait without provocation and paying families of Palestinian suicide bombers), does not threaten us (shooting at our planes that were enforcing the cease-fire that HE AGREED TO, trying to assassinate former presidents, harboring terrorists and letting them use a plane in the desert to train for hijackings, kicking out weapons inspectors to conceal his WMD programs), and is not a haven for terrorists.

"You can support the troops but not the president."
---Rep Tom Delay (R-TX)

That's very different from saying you support the troops but not their mission. If you don't support their mission, then you're either hostile to it or indifferent. So either you hope they get killed or you simply don't care if they get killed. (The enemy cannot win if they do not kill our soldiers, so failure of the mission is dependent on more of our troops getting killed than would be killed if the mission were to succeed.)

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/republicans_clinton_war.html
(Yes, I found that website, too. Can't you at least do some homework of your own, or do you always rely on talking points that others have assembled? That kind of hurts your credibility.)

Did you miss the SOTU? The exit strategy is victory. Victory means a stable, reasonably secure Iraq (mainly Baghdad and Anbar) that can defend itself and does not support terrorists. Is that unclear? Only to those who choose not to understand. ("He said something, but I don't get it, so therefore there is no exit strategy." Is that your formulation?)

That last paragraph was not an argument against your implicit point, which is that you think Republicans were just as vicious (COMPARABLE, remember?) about Bosnia as many Dems are about Iraq. I just thought it should be refuted because it's one of those dishonest pieces of so-called evidence that gets a lot of use on the left-wing websites.

In fact, you didn't even make the argument that Bush was being hypocritical; SOMEONE ELSE made that argument and you passed it along with other quotations as your own compilation without any kind of citation or reference to the original source. That's called plagiarism and it's an intentional deception. (That's disgraceful and you should apologize, but I doubt you will.) Again, no minor point: it speaks to your credibility. The next time you swipe someone else's work and try to pass it off as your own, at least find something that's relevant to the point I made, not the one you wish I had made so you could pounce on it.

Apollyon 67
Accosiates?

ReggiePerrin
LOL

They can't help themselves. The MSM makes them think they're right by contorting, misrepresenting, and omitting crucial facts. There are some reasonable liberals out there, but they're rare. That's because sound reasoning and empirical evidence are clearly on the conservative side, while they have little more than emotions to support their side. It's kind of like shooting fish in a bucket, but it's fun anyway.

muirgeo vs. Pirate, round 4(?)
In case anyone is interested, after I posted my lengthy reply I found this good explanation of each of the quotes that muirgeo copied and pasted:

http://www.hannity.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-54196.html

Enjoy!

Reg-Per
"Kimberly Driveby, Soothsayer & Liberalgoodman...

I just realized this sounds like a Monty Python Law Firm."

Good one! LOL Their only client was the 'torso', the new socialist man.

What they have is artificial but I wouldn't link it to intellegence. Let's be generous and call it 'mindless zeal'.

Coulter's background...
More crap.....

Coulter was born into big WASP money. Never had to work a day in her life.

If she were my daughter, I'd be so ashamed.

Stupidity
If you're going to attack Coulter, at least write something intelligent that indicates a knowledge of facts, understanding of satire, complexity of human personality, or, if you're a woman, something that sounds half-way rational. I'm becoming convinced that too large a percentage of persons of my gender are indeed idiots undeserving of the right to vote.

To Phil Bylar
Thank you for clearing that up quite nicely.

I am sick to death of organizations that would love to see us turn into another Soviet Union getting any kind of credibility as a "professional organization."

The ACLU doesn't give a damn about any individual rights unless it means destroying the Constitution.

Love Ann!
Ann Coulter is "between your eyes" truth about liberals in general and Hillary Ro-dham in particular. If you don't believe it, just read the whining posts of the liberals and the Clinton kooks. Hit dogs always bark the loudest!

Ann Coulter
There is barely a better way to start a day then reading the thoughts of Ms. Ann Coulter..BRAVO JoeDePierro, N.J.

Coulter's background
"If she were my daughter, I'd be so ashamed."

If she were your daughter, she'd be so ashamed.

Thank you Phil Byler
It is indicative of their own insecurity of the legitimacy of their own arguments that libs like soothsayer present carefully selected parts of the story and then draw the reader's conclusion for him instead of simply telling the whole story and allowing the reader to make up his own mind about it.

Thanks for furnishing us the salient points that soothsayer carefully and selectively omitted because he was not interested in spreading information; only in defending Clinton, who had utter contempt for the law, and bashing Bush, who was in fact demonstrating a far greater and deeper understanding of the law, both in letter and in spirit, than lawyer Clinton (either lawyer Clinton) ever did or could.

Coulter's Background?
Uh, so Coulter comes from a wealthy family. So what? So she's a lawyer by trade and maybe hasn't done an honest day's work. So what?

I suppose the Kennedys, the Kerrys, the Clintons, the Rockafellers, Lieberman, McKinney, Gore, Edwards, Pelosi, Ried, and all those other high profile Democrats all started out dirt poor and worked their way up through the trenches doing menial, back-breaking, hard-labor jobs until finally making it big in politics? Come on. People like us don't get columns on the web and seats in Congress. The best we can hope for is a blog that a few people might read.

Besides, what does Coulter's background have to do with whether or not Hillary Clinton will even be the front-runner come Convention time next year? And anyone who looks into polls should know that they are all bunk. I seem to recall during the 2004 elections, the networks were calling the election for Kerry by early evening because all the exit polls they took had Kerry winning hands down. That showed either the unreliability of polls, the incompetance of the pollsters, or the malicious intent by the media to influence the election. Which one it was? I don't know, nor do I care. I've never put much stock in opinion polls. They are too easily manipulated both by the pollsters and the respondents. You can get any result you want from a poll. I'd be willing to bet that if someone were so inclined, they could get a poll to show that 90% of Americans favor the way the war in Iraq is going. All you have to do is find the right people...

Copperheads
If my historical memory serves me correct, Democrats during the Civil War were call Copperheads for the penny they displayed on the lapel of their jackets.

Listening to the Dims today, I think the name still fits due to their snake in grass personalities.

"Never had to work a day in her life"
Elisabeth,

If you learned about Coulter's well-to-do background from reading a comprehensive biography about her, and not from some kook blog, then you also know she worked her butt off for years as a journalist - a very talented journalist - but couldn't land a steady gig because she was a conservative.

She now writes for Human Events and her column is syndicated in hundreds of liberal dailies in spite of the fact that the liberal editors of these publications despise her because of her views.

So your post raises three questions. (1) How many less talented journalists got steady jobs without working nearly as hard as Coulter because they were liberal?. (2) How many "liberal" opinons do we read every day in so-called MSM dailies that are there because the publications continue to discriminate against talented conservatives in their hiring?

And (3) what does Coulter's "WASP" background have to do with anything? If I suggested that Julianne Malveaux's radical black background disqualified her opinons you would call me a racist. If I suggested that Jayson Blair should never have been hired by the New York Times because he was black, and he deserved to be fired because he was black, and not because he was a liar and a fraud, you would call me a racist. But you think it is perfectly fine to denigrate Coulter for being a "WASP".

It is you who are the racist, and, as nnivea points out, you should be ashamed of that no matter who your daughter is.

Mountain Rose, I love ya darlin' but
"parroting" and "talking" are two distinctly different things.

I understood exactly what Dangerous Dave was saying. When you Anthropomorphize animals into something greater than they are, you lose the proper perspective.

Your parrot doesn't understand a thing beyond the survival instincts programmed into its DNA. If you start engaging in what you think is meaningful conversation with your bird, then it's way beyond time for the straight jacket and the rubber room.

When Walt Disney's BAMBI came out, hunting dropped by nearly 40% or more. Today we have a near crisis that demands that many rural states increase hunting seasons and bag limits to as many as 20 deer per hunter.

And still, I see deer running across highways or lying dead on shoulders.

In the state of Michigan alone, hunters have provided over 100,000 pounds of venison to needy famililies, free of charge.

Happy Jake
If I may be so bold, let me remind you of the first rule of liberalism.

"Rules are to be made by liberals to be applied to conservatives. Liberals themselves are exempt from the rules, and any suggestion that they ought to comply with their own rules is racist, sexist, and homophobic."

This applies to all rules, whether the rules in question are laws, customs, regulations, or just "rules" of political debate.

Hillary is no Margret Thatcher
What an absurd notion that Hillary Clinton will be the American version of Margret Thatcher. Hillary Clinton is not honest,nor does she have one ounce of honor within her miserable bitter cold domineering carcass.

I guess if I were Annie
I wouldn't want to talk about the present either, with Bush's approval ratings where they are, and Iraq in the toilet.
It's much easier to bash a guy who's been out of office for six years.

Hillary's Al Qaeda Code Name

.....Seldom-Bin-Laden ...

.....COLOSSUS

If she were mine.....
Of course, my daughters would never encourage violence or use such vile language.

And, my daughters have earned everything they have. Unlike little Ann, there was no family fortune to pass on.

Ann's parents should have washed her mouth out with soap years ago.

Coulter *EARNS* her money
> Elisabeth writes:
> Coulter was born into big WASP money.

Connecticut yes, big money (by CT standards) I am not so sure. And I hate to shed reality on your illusions but there is discrimination AGAINST WASPs today -- particuarly in Catholic New England. Elizabeth Woodward case anyone?

> Never had to work a day in her life.

Probably didn't "have to" because she is cute and blond and could have married someone and become a trophy wife. But there is a difference between "had to" and did/does...

Coulter goes to college campii and has the courage of her convictions. She goes out into harm's way without bodyguards (or at least used to) and attempts to debate the moonbats.

I have seen her do this. I have had to cross the gauntlet of 200lb lesbians attempting to get into the room. I have seen the same teamsterisque thugs attempt to terrify members of the audience - and be told that the dean has ordered campus security not to interfere.

We all have seen the footage of her dodging pies and other projectiles being thrown at her. What you don't see are all the times that the students inviting her have stopped these things from happening, or all the grief that is hurled at her with impunity.

The folks who go out on the college lecture circuit, Coulter, Mike Adams, Dinish D'Souza, Tammy Bruce, etc -- these folks go into harms way on a daily basis. These people EARN their money in a way that others don't. Hillary wouldn't last 10 minutes in this kind of environment....

Now go back into her biograpy and you will learn that she actually had a real job at a real think tank where - because it is a conservative one - they expect their people on payroll to do things. She also passed the bar exam, something that the Kennedys have rarely done without great effort.

> If she were my daughter, I'd be so ashamed.

Yep, I am sure you would rather have her been pregnant in high school and now being a grandmother (or great-grandmother) with a whole cadre living on welfare. You likely would be quite proud of that....

phil b., others
Phil B-excellent post...

Wiseone...nice saying, and we see the perfect example in Sandy Berger's lack of punishment, vs. 30year man Keyser...who goes to prison

Conservativeman...How right you are...As a wife who would never marry to align myself with perceived power never tolerate a day with Mr. Clinton, (let alone embarass my poor child)she has nothing to offer this Country.

Kimberly,Libgman...posted to you yesterday about lies and nturally was ignored. La-la-land must be a great place!

clinton admin quite relevant
at least to Hillary who is talking about it as a reason for folks to vote for her.

Oh, I understand, one can only talk about the Clinton Admin when one is saying positive things about it....

people like...
Kimberly and Soothsayer don't rely on reason. Emotion is their fuel, and they run on it 24/7. Who needs reason when you can just rant and rave til everyone gives up trying to talk to you rataionally? I don't recall once seeing Kimberly actually make a valid point or say anything remotely approaching a logical statement.

Once again, her comments can be summed up as this:

"Ann Coulter is a right-wing/uber/neocon shill who severely lacks a sense of humor and must be really pissed off about how bad things are going for the Republicans."

Average brainwaves used in her comments: 5
Number of times she has called Coulter a right-wing shill: 105
Seeing Kimberly avoid all logical debate: Priceless

To Bonnie
Hillary Clinton is the "luckiest woman in the world" because she's married to Bill Clinton? You are definitely defining the word "lucky" down.

Yes! give me a spouse who cheats on me and sexually harrasses other women. And you accuse right-wingers of propagandizing for the politicians they like? Sheesh...


Bonnie
Ann should "get over" Clinton like the other side has gotten over Nixon?

Nothing stirs the pots quite like Coulter. Another great piece - proven by the knee-jerk response.

Dodging pies.....
Obviously, little Annie is dodging pies because she is anorexic.

Perhaps if she ever ate a healthy meal, she could think and write with a bit more humility and clarity.




Army Gear -Hilary vs. Dukaksis
Who do you think would look "sillier" riding in a TANK with a combat helmet on ---?? Hilary or Commander Mike Dukaksis??

Elisabeth
"Coulter was born into big WASP money."

Elisabeth,
Tell me what you know about Senator Edward Kennedy.
What do you know about Senator John Edwards?
What do you know about John Kerry

One was born into money, one chased ambulances for it, and the last one married into it.

Your point is mute. She grew up in CT to an ADMITTEDLY upper-middle class family. She went to Law School. She worked as a corporate attorney. She left that work to seek politics under Reagan. She pursued her love for making Libs like you squirm.

What have you done with YOUR life? (you don't need to answer that)

Elisabeth
"Dodging pies because she is anorexic."

Obviously you and your fellow anti-Ann types are going to learn the slow painful way that your snide little remarks only fuel her. Ann Coulter KNOWS that liberals are knee-jerk reactionaries - and she plays you like fiddles.

Keep up the nastiness that you claim she dissemenates, she's laughing at you.

Elisabeth
And you're dodging logical criticism becasue you're cognitively challenged.

I find it fascinating that you brood over the "fact" that George Will has lost influence over the GOP. Coulter and Will disagree over the methods of the WOT, but on many other things they agree. And although I like George Will, he has a pedantic style that will not appeal to many readers.

Ann Coulter is worth 20 tea-and-crumpet, bow-tie-wearing conservatives. She gets down in the mud and wrestles with liberals. Those who think that Coulter could learn something from Will have it backwards. I've seen George Will many times on Sunday morning talk shows. Get him in a room with people like Cokie Roberts and George Stephanopoulos, and he gets really squishy.

Elisabeth
If the best you can do is pathetic ad hominem attacks you might as well close up shop and go back to your volunteer job with MoveonAmerica.org

Elisabeth writes: Thursday, January, 25,
Elisabeth writes: Thursday, January, 25, 2007 10:16 AM
Dodging pies.....
Obviously, little Annie is dodging pies because she is anorexic.

Perhaps if she ever ate a healthy meal, she could think and write with a bit more humility and clarity


So that's all she could come up with?! My God!
Reading some of the posts here are like viewing an accident; you know it's going to be horrific and a tragic waste; but you can't take your eyes away! Lizardbreath, please take your snot-nosed condesending ad-hominem attacks eleswhere.

muirgeo...where are you?
Shooter and Lestat...I love to read your comments. We have not heard back from Muirgeo since your last posting. Perhaps he bowed out when logic and sound reasoning trumped emotional appeal? The saddest thing is that I doubt any of your comments made him think twice about his stance.

Bonnie...do you REALLY think Hillary Clinton is the "luckiest girl in the world"??? Her husband was videotaped on national television saying, "I did NOT have sex with that woman" (a real proud day for all of us Americans) She had to stand by that worm's side and bear the humiliation of her own (and a nation's) and you call that "lucky"? I suppose your falling back on that liberal logic when you use that word because it makes absolutely no sense to me.


RE: soothsayer
The fact that you don't have any idea about what you are talking about should be enough for everyone to simply ignore your irrational banterings. The ABA is, for the most part, way left of center, and has been widely written about by former members. The ABA has been losing members for about 20 years because of their kooky commie sensibilities, and had you actually read anything about the subject, you'd have known the phrase "11-member bi-partisan American Bar Association panel" is one of the biggest oxymorons ever uttered.

Just curious
I'm just curious. All you libs who worship at the shrine of Hitlery, can you tell what she has actually accomplished other than winning an election and spending the next 4 years raising money to win that one. What makes her so special other than that shrilling squeaky wheel sound she calls a voice?

RE: VOR
My dog will be president before Hillary. And the United States isn't ready for a black president, nor will the Democratic Party allow a fellow black Democrat to become president.

Democrats NEED blacks to think that they are being held back by white people so they can count on them for their votes. When blacks see that they really aren't being held back by anyone except Democrats, they won't vote Democrat any more.

Food and Commentary
What has what Ms. Coulter eating or not eating have to do with the topic being discussed? My experiences tell me that when a child can not justify its action they tend to try to change the subject. I am opposed to name calling as it contributes nothing to any discussion.
My interpretation of the column was that Hillary brought no skills to the quest for the presidency other than an ability to raise campaign funds and a disreputable spouse who was a former president. I have not read anything today that disputes that assumption.

RE: Kimberly
"Not alot of relevant or reality-based material in her myopic, bitter little world."

And you'd know all about that. What, with your personal demostrations of such coming in right here day after day.

Right here..CabenaroKid
Dude, Pirate wrote

"Two things even Ann missed....
First, anyone remember Clinton's wars? The bombing of Belgrade? The bombing of the asprin factory? The other assorted adventures?

Did you see any Republicans saying any of the things you are hearing from the Democrats today?"



To which I promptly quoted many Republicans second guessing the then Commander in Chief saying EXACTLY the same things liberal critics of Bush have said...and who were subsequently called traitors, facilitators and haters of the troops.

Pirate and Lestat then went on to put all kinds of disclaimers and subtext into the original statement.


YOU GUYS GOT YOUR CLOCKS CLEANED SO OBVIOUSLY ....that no further replies were necessary on my part. But if you'll want to continue to squirm and looks silly go right on ahead....I irrefutably revealed your hypocrisy and will totally enjoy any further "explanations", re-dressings or other such silliness.




Ann Coulter
thank you for a great start to my day. I haven't laughed this much for quite a while. You are brilliant.

RE: Coulter's Background
"Coulter was born into big WASP money. Never had to work a day in her life."

I bet that doesn't stop your from thrusting yourself at the voting lever to vote for Democrats, huh? Tell me, can you name JUST ONE Democratic senator that wasn't born to a rich family?

Libs can't stand a good looking smart
woman. That is why she is so villified. Look at their "icons". Shrillary/Nancy/Dianne/Gloria/Bella Abcess. All disgusting to even take a gander at. All spouting inanities out of their mouths. And here comes Ann, nice to look at, talking common sense. Face it guys: libs can't take that combination. It terrifies them. Because the truth bothers them...

ANN IS DEAD ON!
Once again Ann skewers the women who take the easy path and then play the victim over and over (Sen Boxer's tear show).

I laugh like H*ll when I hear San Fran Nan talk about the poor when she herself hires cheap illegal alien labor when she could be paying a "livable" wage and hiring said poor Americans!

Ann, keep gut punching these idiots, they more they mewl and whine, the better we like it! When they insult you via ad hominem attacks, you KNOW you're hitting the "X" ring.

beowulfe
Funny how the libdolts forget about Hanoi John (500mil) who was born into money and not only never has had to work a day in his life but has MISSED 70% of the votes in the Seante since he was elected there!

Or Dianne Feinstein's husband, Ralph Blum, selling off blocks of energy stocks making MILLIONS during California's energy crisis. Not to mention that THEY had a generator 24/7 proving power to their mansion while the little people suffered rolling blackouts!

RE: muirgeo
Morons like you always amuse me.

Find for me JUST ONE quote from an elected Republican that is even HALF as vitriolic of the sitting Commander In Chief as these by your Lord and Savior, Senator Edward Moore Kennedy:

"The president's handling of the war has been a toxic mix of ignorance, arrogance, and stubborn ideology. No amount of Presidential rhetoric or preposterous campaign spin can conceal the facts about the steady downward spiral in our national security since President Bush made the decision to go to war in Iraq. If this election is decided on the question of whether America is safer because of President George Bush, John Kerry will win in a landslide. The war in Iraq has made the mushroom cloud more likely, not less likely"

"There was no imminent threat. This was made up in Texas, announced in January to the Republican leadership that war was going to take place and was going to be good politically. This whole thing was a fraud."

Oh, and just so you know, THAT is how you clean someone's clock, kiddo.

Kimbat - funniest yet!
While it is true that the trolls are usually quite amusing, even if unintentionally, Kimmy's slavering paen to Her Thighness takes the cake.

Hillary? Attractive??? I am forced to once again post this link:
http://www.grouchyoldcripple.com/archives/002188.html

Thanks for a much needed laugh, Kimmy!

did we lose elisabeth hahaha hehe
i guess i don't need to add another response to her

Darling Kimberly
"Frankly speaking, one can only remark on Ann's shrill tone and sour grapes opining."

Once again, dear heart, you have demonstrated what a lovely kettle you are.

Elisabeth
Your back you gutless coward. How come you did not reply to questions on other post dealing with your supposed age and your husband fighting in WWII and Korea and your son in Viet Nam.

Any other stories you want to make up.

muirgeo writes:
YOU GUYS GOT YOUR CLOCKS CLEANED SO OBVIOUSLY ....that no further replies were necessary on my part. But if you'll want to continue to squirm and looks silly go right on ahead....I irrefutably revealed your hypocrisy and will totally enjoy any further "explanations", re-dressings or other such silliness.

A short history lesson for muirgeo and others may be in order.

1. We still are in Kosovo. There was and still is no exit strategy to finish the task. The majority of the comments quoted were directed to that deficiency in the planning. We still are over there.
2. Every member of Congress had opportunity to voice their concerns and they did by over whelming majority of the Democrats in office approved of the plan and exit strategy. One of the points made by the administration was that this would be relatively long process. That it would take years to accomplish the goals.
3. It was only weeks into the war in Iraq when the “are losing the war media” and their adherents on the left started the diatribe against the President and the administration.
4. Almost every Democrat suddenly decided that they were duped by the President. They conveniently forgot that their own party and President Clinton were the first to propose the need to remove Sudam.


I don't know what to say
to people who hate "Dumbo," Bugs Bunny and Daffy Duck, "The Chronicles of Narnia" (with its talking beavers and mice and such), and "Charlotte's Web." Just can't relate to that dislike at any price.

Erase talking animals, and you erase 90% of children's literature, and at least 80% of that GOOD children's literature. Good-bye Chaucer's "Nun's Priest's Tale." Good-bye Brothers Grimm and "The Musicians of Bremen." Good-bye Rudyard Kipling's "Jungle Books." Good-bye Kenneth Grahame and "The Wind in the Willows." And, of course, the aforementioned Narnia Chronicles.

I would have been very sad to grow up in a house where all such works were banned. But then, when I first heard that a segment of the population hated such works because "talking animals are Satanic and dangerous," I didn't believe it. Now that I've seen that view first-hand, I STILL don't believe it. Thank heaven those who hold that view have no direct influence over my bookshelf and my DVD shelf.

Now, on point:
I'm not much of a fan of Ann Coulter's style -- I tend to prefer the Thomas Sowell/ John Stossel/ George Will approach, because their articles tend to be more PERSUASIVE than pugnacious -- but I can't disagree with her assessment of Hillary & the gang, who expect to be lauded and praise for little other than their gender. Good politicians, be they male or female, don't trade on the gender card. They don't need to, because they have actual accomplishments to point to.

As far as limiting the Vote, let's go easy on the "repeal women's suffrage" talk because such talk is like Hillary Clinton herself: it can't be taken seriously. Instead, why not consider restricting it (seriously) on the basis of intelligence/personality tests? First, ban illiterates, both literal and figurative. Ask a potential voter if he has read a book in the last year. If the answer is "no," he's disallowed. Second, quiz potential voters on their knowledge of the candidates in that particular race. If they know nothing about the candidates or said candidates' positions, they are disallowed. Third, use Myers-Briggs, and keep anyone from voting who has a 70% or above "Feeling" score. Those with more of a T/F balance (say, 55% F and 45% T) can vote, because those numbers suggest that these are at least CAPABLE of reason and logical thought, but those whose personalities have a very heavy imbalance in the direction of F should not vote. This might keep a lot of women from voting, but it would not keep ALL women from voting, and the restriction would not be based solely on gender, but on their character as individuals.

Moonbats
Elisabeth: Just got added to the "hateful scumbag" list... list is getting pretty long at this rate.

Kimberly: "Did we cover all the bases? Let's see... 'shrill,' check... 'rant,' check... Cheney and Plamegate, check... "Bush is dumb" wisecrack, check... okay, we got it all! Let's post this puppy!"

muirgeo: There is a marked difference between questioning the presence of an exit strategy and calling the CIC a "liar," a "criminal," and so forth. Your comparisons fail the laugh test.

gregdn: Guess you missed the context of the ENTIRE TOPIC, i.e. Hillary's candidacy. Since she had done nearly squat as a Senator, Bill's legacy is *entirely* relevant.

My god, don't these people ever get tired of being hateful morons?

muirgeo
DUDE!

You still writing your memoirs on those napkins at Starbucks?

Like. Dude. Wow.

Pamela
re: talking animals, agreed. It's a stupid position, especially those who find "Narnia" Satanic because it includes magic and a witch and so forth. One has to be pretty ignorant about C.S. Lewis to take that position...

re: Careful with suggesting that the vote be restricted by use of an "intelligence/literacy" test... I for one agree with you, but the knee-jerk-Leftist-jerk response to that is to call you racist, since literacy tests were used to keep blacks from voting in the Jim Crow south.

You insult the Moon
"My god, don't these people ever get tired of being hateful morons?"
Moonbats? Moonbats?
Next thing you know, the moon will retaliate by going away - still, it's better than 'shooting' the moon...
BTW, wonderful column.

I love it!
Coulter always draws rabid moonbats from their dark caves. The better the article, the more the liberals foam at the mouth. They attack her looks, they attack her childhood; attack, attack, attack - but rarely if ever do they coherently address specifics of her opinions.

Coulter Mis-Statements
Hillary had the money - Slick Willie was lower middle class when she met him - and at that point in time had no power - nor any expectations of gaining any - "horny hick" fits a lot of folks and of course is a smack at the most of the folks that live in the Red States as they are country folk for the most part - now all you fanatic Coulter lovers can snipe at me - the race is on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

jimbo
But that's because "her articles have no substance to attack; she's just a shrill/hateful/rabid/etc. Neocon," blah blah blah.

Nothing Personal
Glad that none of these posts are personal - hate to think that folks are vicious - really attack the material not the writer - brings you down to a lower level -

THE STEAK AND ONION SPEECH
IT'S WAS STATED BY AN ANONYMOUS SOURCE, "DURING THE PREZ'S STATE OF THE UNION SPEECH WHICH WAS SO UNINSPIRING, CHENEY AND PELOSI WERE MAKING OUT."

I HAVE TO ADMIT I HAD MY EYES CLOSED DURING THE ENTIRE EVENT AND SOMETIME THEREAFTER. "MISSED IT BY THAT MUCH."

Clift - A truly Bitter woman
who is alleged to have attended President Nixon's funeral just 'to make sure he was dead'...

I don't think I've ever seen her with a non-hideous expression of bitterness and distaste on her face. Not to mention her parroting the daily talking points from the DNC...of course, Colmes does it too, but at least on some subjects he has a brain and attempts to use it more often than not...

Thank you for "Cleaning our Clocks"
Muirgeo so that we can time how long it takes for you to rant and rave more efficiently.

The fact of the matter is that you are trying to feed us crow by calling it tasty chicken. I don't swallow your crap because you're mixing apples with oranges. Lestat quoted S. Hannity as to clearly WHY we had every reason to take up arms in Iraq as opposed to Bonsia:

"For what US national interest did our soldiers die in Bosnia? In Iraq, the reason has been given: to dethrone Saddam and create a secure and free Iraq that does not threaten its neighbors (invading Iran and Kuwait without provocation and paying families of Palestinian suicide bombers), does not threaten us (shooting at our planes that were enforcing the cease-fire that HE AGREED TO, trying to assassinate former presidents, harboring terrorists and letting them use a plane in the desert to train for hijackings, kicking out weapons inspectors to conceal his WMD programs), and is not a haven for terrorists."

1) You may try every attempt to quote (or plagiarize arguments) Republicans using the same arguments that Liberals are using today for the War on Iraq or the WOT for that matter. Your mistake is that even if the quotes sound the same, the topic addressed was VERY different. You're trying to fit the square peg into the circle hole and expecting us to buy it...or even worse, you're crossing your fingers and hoping we don't see your fallacy of logic.

2) The quotes you posted were "Republicans second guessing" Slick Willie in your own words. Second guessing is healthy, but the quotes Beowulfe cites from Senator Edward Moore Kennedy as well as other quotes posted are just downright shameful and degrading...WAY past second guessing. You see, the liberal democrats are putting politics over prevail. They trying to degrade our President they way Bill Clinton self-degraded his office of Presidency...(i.e. "I did NOT have sex with that woman"...a proud day for all us).

Hey what's with the bag on K-Fed?
If he ran against Barbara Boxer he'd win.

CaballeroKid
Ah, you forget Bubba's FIRST excursion. His invasion of Haiti to reestablish order by slapping another corrupt loser into power through force of US arms.

Libs crowed that "it was soooo Presidential of him."

Bubba half-stepped it, left it open-ended, and it was clearly a photo-op war.

Question of the Day
Is Kimberly a real person or is she a sock puppet for Liberal Democrat?

FergusMacLennan
Laughing like H*ll on the Kimberly checklist post...

"Kimberly: "Did we cover all the bases? Let's see... 'shrill,' check... 'rant,' check... Cheney and Plamegate, check... "Bush is dumb" wisecrack, check... okay, we got it all! Let's post this puppy!"

You KNOW that she has the hots for Bush. She can't post w/o his name being in it!

Check my blog story on Red Nancy's rapid eyeblinks during the SOTU address and the decoding of them. She thinks Bush is hot as well.

Phil Byler
What did Thomas Jefferson say at the birth of our nation? "First shot all the lawyers." Of course Tom was a lawyer so he probably said or meant shot all the other lawyers

Vic
She's a real person and is currently being run by Rove's Liberal-Mind Control Machine. He uses her for satirical posts and disinformation purposes.

PS: Don't tell her that the rubium rays can penetrate her triple-layered tinfoil hat.

Dave God Bless Ur Grandma
Very witty Dave not much here that gives me a laugh - too bad she could not have voted more often - like LBJ used to say "Vote early and vote often.

Ann's "Thing" with Bill Clinton?
To whomever the above poster was who implied Ann has a "thing" for Clinton... "watch her face" or some such nonsense, she says.

I think it is far more likely that if old Velcro-Fly Bill got "little Willie" within 10 ft. of Ann, Lorena Bobitt's actions would be considered tame by comparison!

But I have to admit, reading the "projections" of you liberals is very entertaining.

Oh... and Kimbat? I've read your posts to Ann and Michelle Malkin this week, and your extreme jealousy of both of these beautiful and intelligent women is striking. This is one of the symptoms of the disease of liberalism. Recovery IS possible, but the longer you wait, the more difficult it becomes. Remember, liberalism is a "progressive" disease, so you need help now. ;-)

To Pamela
Thanks for bringing up M-B. I tend to harp on the same subject. The relevant stats are:

Males: 35% F (feeling Type)
Females: 75% F

Assuming a general population distribution of females/males at 50-50 (close enough), we are left with the fact that 55% of the populace tend to make decisions and form judegments based upon the momentary state of their emotion-based brain chemistry rather than calm, objective rational thought. Funny, or maybe scary, that the 55-45 F-T ratio pretty closely tracks national Democrat-Republican voter registration numbers. F-Types just hate this kind of information, which I supposed stands to reason. (pun intended)

Lynne
I'm sure between us we could come up with a long list.

I nominate Maureen Dowd, Paul Krugman, and Molly Ivins.

Fergus: I've heard that one
and it might have held water fifty years ago, when African-Americans did not have ample access to education. At this point in history, however, approximately 90% of this nation's citizens are literate, and the Leftists don't have a proverbial leg to stand on. Literacy tests can no longer be said to exclude blacks.

And my test wouldn't be a strictly "literacy" test, since my beef is less with people who CAN'T read than with people who DON'T read -- deliberate illiterates. Mark Twain stated famously that those who don't read good books are no better than those who can't read them, and I'd keep BOTH those types -- white and black -- away from the voting booth if I had my way. Thus would I answer my Leftist critics, and at least Thomas Sowell, Star Parker, Suzanne Fields and Shelby Steele would know I'm right. (I really could care less what the Leftists think of me.)
Likewise, I hold to my stance regarding intelligence tests. I took the Myers-Briggs several years ago, and I came out around 55% F/ 45% T. I like to think that if I took the test today, that ratio would be reversed (because people do change; I used to be a liberal long ago, until I grew up and took a good, hard look at what their policies say about us), but I do think a good balance is needed there; of my "Introvert" and "Intuitive" scores, however, I remain proud.

But one of the questions I might have the officials at the polling place ask is: "Do you think that 'The Chronicles of Narnia' are Satanic?" Anyone who is foolish enough to answer "yes" would be sent home immediately. Sometimes, the simplest tests are the best ones.

Thanks for agreeing with me, Fergus.

Elizabeth
Interesting that you would sieze upon Ms. Coulters ancestry, given that you have a rather "WASP"ish christian name. Self loathing perhaps.

Kimberly, everytime I think the bar of diminished capacity has been firmly set, you arrive to surprise me.

Bonnie, that you consider Hillary to be the luckiest woman in the world offers an explanation to two significant cultural trends; the decline in the sanctity of marriage, and the increase in casino gambling.

To all those clamoring for an exit strategy, there is only one successful exit strategy in war and that is victory. Anything less than victory is a defeat. To achieve victory in the least costly manner requires overwhelming force and a commitment to use it. People will be killed, some of them for simply being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Frankly, if we are incapable of addressing the issue of Radical Islam's desire to destroy Western Civilization, then you have to question our capacity to remain a soverign, independent nation. Hillary's election will be the second nail in our cultural coffin.

did M-Ann Coulter plagerize
for this article also? I notice that as soon as her plagerism was outed all conservatives whoring her book shut up. Ann your preaching to the choir.. a dumb one at that.

Democrat Avenger
Which book did she supposedly plagurize?

I for one, seriously doubt it.

Maybe SHE can ghostwrite Velcro-Fly Bubba and Hitlary's next novels like the last ones were. Whattya think?

Pamela
Most folks in our great land depend on the TV - FOX - MSNBC -CNN all for there news - that is why so many newspapers have folded - When Jay Leno does his Jay Walk most folks can't tell him who the Vice President is and when asked what they do for a living a lot of the say - school teacher - and when asked if they graduated from college - Yeah - a literacy test would open up a way to discriminate against minorities pure and simple - again you don't have to read anything to have a political opinion - just listen to Bill – Hannity – Neal and the rest of the talking heads - too bad folks don't read now days – and too bad that most of them don’t know where Iraq is

Viking Babe
This conservative viewed the "grouchyoldcripple" link, and man was it funny!
Having said that; I find Nancy Pelosi, Hillary Clinton, and Susan Estrich to be fine-looking women. Let's be fair!
Ann Coulter is beautiful, smart, frisky and playful. She is the bold conservative Valkyrie who smashes sacred cows, in the Temple of Liberalism. A real Lindisfarne lassie.....

Primus54
LMAO!!!!

"Liberalism is a Progressive Disease" - I GOTTA get me a bumper sticker made up that says that!!!

John-of-Gilknockie writes:
"Kimberly, everytime I think the bar of diminished capacity has been firmly set, you arrive to surprise me...."

John, as GunnyG would say, next time post a "spew alert" so I don't have coffee in my mouth which your post forced out of my nose from the laughter it elicited!

Fergus:
If you DO have any made... count me in for at least 50 of them!

So many liberals... so little time! :-)

JohnGalt
Loved the link. It is no wonder I'm conservative!

Bahiabob
Sardine was my nick name when I was in the 101st Abn Div - didn't have anything to do with physical or mental - long story - but the fact is that about half of the folks that Jay catches are tourists and only about half of them are from California - I really don't like baiting anyone - I try to keep it up beat - I try to attack the content and not the person - which I consider bad form – Having voted Republican in 10 out of 12 presidential elections I guess I would describe myself as a "Compassionate Conservative" hey who else has used that handle? Ann Coulter lost me when she made that comment about the 9/11 widows

GunnyG - re: Haiti
You failed to mention that many of our troops went into Haiti UNARMED! No ammo in their rifles and less than a full clip in their sidearms.

Mmm... donuts!
Ms Coulter writes:
< < Still and all, Mrs. Clinton is probably the real front-runner based on: (1) the multiple millions of dollars she has raised, > >

Well, that one's probably true, but...

< < and (2) the fact that her leading Democratic opponent is named "Barack Hussein Obama." > >

This "B. Hussein Obama" crap is just button-pushing divisiveness and any pundit worth the title should be ashamed to employ this.

< < Or, as he's known on the Clinton campaign, "The Soft Bigotry of Low Expectations." > >

And this is almost certainly projection.

Ann Coulter is the punditry equivalent of a donut: it makes you feel good for a while (if you're from her end of the political spectrum) but in the end it's a bunch of empty calories with nothing of substance. Oh, and something about being full of holes.

Coulter's purpose is to be divisive and whip as many on the right up into a frenzy so they'll be good minions who won't pay attention to the things that matter.

John-of-Gilknockie
John-of-Gilknockie writes:
"Kimberly, everytime I think the bar of diminished capacity has been firmly set, you arrive to surprise me...."
=============
My chest is gonna hurt for a couple of days from my laughing!

John...WELL DONE!


sardine
I empathize with your position, but some of these people are so egregious that they NEED attacking. Ann's comment about the 9/11 widows may have been over the top, but it was scarcely inaccurate or undeserved; those women were expending maximum effort to make hay of their own personal misfortunes. Does Ann occasionally tar with too wide a brush? Absolutely. In the process, does she tar people who deserve it? In my opinion, no question about it!

To GunnyG
The plagerism charge was discredited long ago but like all things from liberal moonbats, they repeat it endlessly hoping the MSM will pick it back up and make it true.

purplestater
"< < and (2) the fact that her leading Democratic opponent is named "Barack Hussein Obama." > >

This "B. Hussein Obama" crap is just button-pushing divisiveness and any pundit worth the title should be ashamed to employ this."

*sigh*

Look, O humor-impaired one... Ann is part pundit, part HUMORIST. The above quoted bit was meant as a JOKE.

My god, the Left has entirely sapped this country of humor...


"Coulter's purpose is to be divisive and whip as many on the right up into a frenzy so they'll be good minions who won't pay attention to the things that matter."

Monkey boy, Coulter's purpose is to address the issues in a biting way that gets you humorless Lefties whipped up into an indignant tizzy, while making us on the Right laugh our tushies off at your expense.

Works pretty well too, from the looks of things, which must be why Ann gets paid so well.

And if you honestly believe that those of us on the Right don't "pay attention to the things that matter," then I don't know whether to feel more irritated by your parochial narrow-mindedness, or amused by your ignorance. Suppose I'll play "moderate" and take a little of Column A, a little of Column B.

There are days when so-get called "moderates" get more irritating than poison ivy on the jimmy...

smashing an old chestnut
I'm not fan of Hillary, but let's put this old chestnut to rest once and for all.

Ann Coulter is fond of saying things like this:
< < Girl-power feminists who got where they are by marrying men with money or power -- Hillary Clinton, > >

Bill and Hillary started dating when BOTH were students at Yale Law School.

When they married in 1975, Bill was a mere law professor, nothing more. He HAD run for the House of Representatives the previous year -- and LOST.

So when Hillary married a man with the same educational achievement as she, who was a mere academic, and who had FAILED at political office, then just HOW was she marrying a man with money or power?

Did she somehow know and foresee how powerful he would become? Wow, that's some prognostication skills there. Maybe she should be president then.

Typing error
Misplaced the word "get" in my last line... mentally delete the first one, if you will

Ad hominem. . .
. . . or whatever the feminine equivalent of that is. I can't seem to remember my Latin declensions.

I should expect this thread to descend into eye-scratching about Ann Coulter's background, family money, etc. Ann flourishes on ad hominem attacks. She owes much in this regard to Hunter S. Thompson who did it so well from a different point of view. Does anyone know if Ann has ever written favorably on the inestimable Dr. Gonzo?

Laura Ingraham covers similar topics to Ann Coulter, shares a Connecticut background, hair color and all those other super-important factors, but with less vitriol. Maybe Ms. Ingraham's less famous because the public prefers hyperbole.

Back to topic, I agree that Hillary is a bore -- not because she's a woman, that her marriage is embarassing or even because of her questionable friends dealing cattle futures, but because she's an imitator, not an original. She reminds me of 1960's college girls who wore their older brothers' clothes because they were jealous and really wished they were boys. When Hillary's not acting like that, she's trying to be the next Eleanor Roosevelt but coming across as the next Eva Peron.

Eleanor Roosevelt was a true original. So was Margaret Thatcher. Until Hillary finds her own voice rather than an echo of somebody else's, she'll lack credibility.

Vic
Yeah, I noticed that Democrat Avenger beat feet out of here faster than Clinton cutting and runing from Somalia.

Eleanor Clift
Wow, Lynne. Talk about shrill. Every time she tries to interupt the other panelists on the McLaughlin Group she reminds me of a spoiled Pomeranian. I usually try to avoid ad hominem remarks, but where she is concerned, I just can't help it.

I would love to see a show like McLaughlin with Coulter, Malkin, Clift and Totenberg. The former would run RINGS around the latter, IMO!

purplestater
Score 2 for 2 on missing the point.

YES, the literal quote suggests that Ann was talking about the initial choice to wed Drop-Trou Billy... but anyone with half a brain and a full cup of coffee can figure out that that's not what Ann was REFERRING to.

The *point*, O Poor Marksman, was that Hillary owes her entire political career to the success of Bubba's political career. Would she be a Senator from NY if he hadn't been president? Probably not. Would she be a viable presidential candidate, if not for President Cheater? Not a chance.

Learn how to aim before you try to shoot.

It's so much fun
to read the libs comments when Ann's column comes out. They claim to hate her, that she has nothing to say, that she's shrill and hateful.
But, they flock to her column every week. I just laugh so hard at how angry and hateful they are over the very columns they proclaim are stupid, empty, whatever. It defies reason, but that' the liberal way, no rational thinking.

Preserve the dittoheads!!!!!
My dear liberals,

When I first started frequenting Townhall it was refreshingly loud-mouthed, bigoted and anti-logic. Thanks to you all it reads more and more like Slate.com and MSNBC every day. If I wanted genuine content I would go read the above, allright!,so don't ruin my guilty pleasure for the week.

Now's the time to act. Don't enlighten the dittoheads so much that we end up only having them in 'captivity' on Fox News and Limbaugh. Let some of them survive in the 'wild' as well. Let our most preservationist instincts take over.

FergusMacLennan
Spot on.

She's been a grasping greedy yuppie since the beginning.

I still want to read her Master's Thesis but it's like Hanoi John Kerry's military and discharge records...unavailable for public perusal.

One for it's leftist content the other for it's OTH content/"I wrote my own citations" contents.

9/11 widows
Kristen Breitweiser and the rest of the "Jersey Girls" forfeited their entitlement to the special consideration society reserves for the bereaved when they used their stature as such to become politically active and attempt to influence our policy on national security.

Losing your spouse in a terrorist attack does not make you more knowledgeable about terror or national security. It does not make you any smarter. It does not make you any more expert on political matters and it does not entitle you to more say-so about national policy going forward than anyone else.

If anything is reduces your real ability and qualifications because you are (understandably) viewing things through a lens of emotion.

This is especially true of the Jersey Girls, since their political posture has been a pejorative effort to blame Bush and his administration rather than one of helping the nation get past the horror of 9/11 and prevent another such attack from happening.

Coulter was in Manhattan on 9/11. She was thus a lot closer to the action than even the Jersey Girls. After the attacks, traffic and public transportation were totally halted. She had to walk to Brooklyn where she found refuge in the home of friends. She also learned that evening that her dear, personal friend Barbara Olson had died on the plane that hit the Pentagon.

Coulter was more directly affected by 9/11 in a personal and emotional way than 99.99% of the rest of us, and has every bit as much a right to claim "victim" or "survivor" status as the Jersey Girls. But unlike the Jersey Girls, Coulter's reaction has been far less to try to blame someone than it has been to stop it from happening again.

Coulter referred to the Jersey Girls as "broads". If they can't deal with this they should get off the political stage and go back to being grieving widows. Nothing more or less.

I've seen their act and I don't want them influencing national policy, and my vote still counts as much as theirs.

Ditto Cindy Sheehan.


Gorelick's "9/11 Wall"
Dear Mr Echo;

The "wall" that you refer to is not a recent invention. Such barriers regarding the sharing domestic and international intelligence between the FBI and the CIA have been in place long before the Rosenberg's were caught sharing WMD secrets with Joe Stalin in the late 1940's The American born children of Russian immigrants to the USA during the early 1900's were spying for the Soviet Union well before WWII. Since so many of these people came into the US government from Brooklyn, NY with the FDR Administration, it was necessary to provide protection for these spies. So, with the help of the ACLU and other communist sympathizers, an information "wall" was erected to keep the CIA in Europe from telling the FBI in the USA who the Rosenberg's talked to in West Berlin. Julius and Ethel were eventually caught by being ratted on by a fellow commie. Oh, the irony.

Now that there is no more Soviet Union and the descendents of these Russian immigrants now have their own little country in the Middle East, there is really no need for the USA to have this harmful, duplicitous wall in operation any longer. I can assure you that this little country in the Middle East, with its great need to protect itself from its Arabs neighbors, do not have any such wall in their intelligence operations.

Of course not, such a "wall" would be national suicide.

wiseone
Indeed... you are "wise" again today!

Alien

One of the many symptoms of the disease of liberalism is delusion... such as your last post speaking of "enlightening the dittoheads."

BTW... You have a perfect screen name -- based upon your idealogies.

Cheers!

voice of reason
VOICE OF REASON ,
PLEASE TELL US THE ONE ABOUT
"WHERE WERE YOU WHEN THE FIT HIT THE SHAN " .
I HAVEN'T HEARD THAT ONE IN ABOUT 30 YEARS.
IF ANYONE ELSE KNOWS IT , POST IT.

Wiseone
Sorry for the delay, I was having some computer trouble most of the day. Anyway...

Thanks for the reminder about Liberal rules applying only to conservatives. Lost my head there for a moment.

And to anyone in general...

Is it even theoretically possible for Ann Coulter to write a piece where the Liberals concentrate on the arguments she makes rather than the author personally? I think Thomas Sowell gets the same treatment with the standard ad hominem attacks rather than actually going after his piece. Of course there would have to be something wrong with the core argument...

Kimberloon
So what you are saying is that Tony Snow DID retract - regardless of your whining about "much later down the road." Most Leftist lies go completely unacknowledged, much less retracted, so it seems to be that that puts Tony well above the bar set by Dems.

As for Ari Fleischer, just because you say it doesn't make it so, sweetie, and forgive me if I assume that a Leftist is lying just because they opened their mouth.

I would need to see some actual evidence - i.e. objective reports - to that effect before I would believe that what I heard about the Clintonistas' vandalism was fabricated.

Kimbat
It's spelled "boor" as in Kimberly is a terrible boor.

That is, a rude and insensitive person.

MAN! I've been picking you to shreds ALL DAY LONG!

Do you get tired of it or do you like it?

feminism
good quotes...thanks, Ann

According to the famed "polls" -- or, as I call them, "surveys of uninformed people who think it's possible to get the answer wrong"

Girl-power feminists who got where they are by marrying men with money or power -- Hillary Clinton, Nancy Pelosi, Arianna Huffington and John Kerry ... hillarious putting John Kerry here

go to my blog...feminism and the Duke rape case and get some behind the scenes truth about what feminism is about! just click on "Dawncy" above.

Kimberloon: PS
You use words like "hubris" in a context that tends to suggest that you have no idea what the words actually *mean*... kinda like you just picked it up somewhere, and filed it under "bad things to say about someone."

Just a mean-spirited observation.

TO THE LEFTISTS
who can only spout name calling . The truth will set you free and once you are free you will finally be happy. To get the truth please open your closed minds and open these two books :
The Death of Right and Wrong by Tammy Bruce and Liberalism is a Mental Disorder by Michael Savage. Rip off those chains !

no she did not
This is based on the many, many things Hillary Clinton and Margaret Thatcher have in common, such as the lack of a Y chromosome

I do not believe that these word could have come out of Annie mouth. It would be nearly impossible for those words to pass around Annie's large, enormous, and golum like ADAMS APPLE.

Thanks Fergus!
"Coulter's purpose is to address the issues in a biting way that gets humorless Lefties whipped up into an indignant tizzy, while making us on the Right laugh our tushies off"

And she succeeds in both purposes, especially when her topic involves either/both Clintons.

Reading the thoughtful, articulate posts from TH contributors like Phil Byler, Mr Ecko, Goshawk, Lestat, and of course you Fergus, always makes me proud to be an American.

Not even the disjointed, illogical rhetoric of left-leaning types who fall out of the trees and feel compelled to post at TH every time Ann writes a column make me lose hope for our great country. But y'all do make me nervous.





MINNESOTA MIKE
Hey, check my blog (click on my handle).

Minnesota is in my thoughts lately as is Keith Ellison.

You Dhimmi yet?

Plagerism??? No, Lib Lies!!!
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,202869,00.html

"Syndicator Dismisses Coulter Plagiarism Charges

Associated Press
Monday, July 10, 2006

NEW YORK — The syndicator of Ann Coulter's newspaper columns rejected allegations that she had lifted material from other sources, saying a review of the work in question turned up nothing that merited concern."

watcha
Also, "Treason" by Ann.

Libs, it is well-researched and she used NSA, and FBI records for her material.

SEEK AND YE SHALL FIND.

We're waiting to embrace reformed libdolts 24/7.

I also offer a FREE 12 step program for liberals.
http://noliberalspin.townhall.com/g/12d2bcfe-7679-4caa-a35a-e602fc908dfe

Kim-bat
Kim-bat,

At the risk of boring you: Bush is not responsible for 9/11..(Really, how can the rightwing be so sanctimoniously indignant towards widows and mourning mothers who are victims of Bush policies and everyone who disagrees with them - labeling all dissenters as "hateful" and anti-troop/American/Republican - and worship a self-loathing, she-demon like Coulter?) and we on the right are not the ones who routinely resort to name calling to get our opponents to shut up. We tend to use facts, which are stubborn things, available for all to see - no matter how hard they try to deny them.

As to sanctimonious indignation: nope, we have sympathy for their losses but their public statements are fair game for criticism. Oh, that's right: since they were demanding Bush 'apologize' for 'killing' their husband's, son's etc they have 'moral authority' and are not to be questioned.

Feel free to bounce over to moveon.org and dailykos to get the latest talking points with which to combat thought...

Minnesota did elect
Michele "DEATH GRIP" Bachmann


So we still have a few wrongs to correct in the next election

Note A Gov Tim Pallenty Joke

How way Gov. Tims do you need to screw in a light bulb

Answer 3

One to say he will never screw in a light bulb
one to screw in the light bulb
and one to say it was not a light bulb but a globe of illumination

Kimbat
I actually did speak to Clinton's pilot and co-pilots. (I'm not going to reveal how this came about due to personal info I don't want to divulge), but they told a me and co-workers that Clinton always trashes Air Force One and the parties on the plane were quite something to behold.

Kimberly
I'd rather sleep in dung than eat it.

How does it taste BTW?

Kimmy
Even a moonbat like YOU has to admit that I've been beating you like a red-headed stepchild ALL THE LIVE LONG DAY!


peppermint
I actually did speak to your parents (I'm not going to reveal how this came about due to personal info I don't want to divulge), but they told a me that you lack the common sense of a goldfish.

Irony the best defense

Worth Reading
Talk about irony...a Liberal Clinton-apologist is the first one to read and respond to the leading female conservative voice's article. And, as we (people obssesed with truth) all know, bipartisan is Beltway-speak for advancing a center-left to left agenda and for Democrats to feel better about undermining some aspect of American exceptionalism.

Bipartisan...like the 9/11 Commission which asked the woman responsible for building the proverbial "wall" between the FBI and CIA to sit in judgment of who was really to blame for the breakdown in intelligence leading up to 3,000 Americans being murdered by terrorists who wouldn't be allowed off the plane now thanks to the Patriot Act??? That kind of bipartisan?

Or maybe the bipartisan Iraqi Study Group, led by a man whose law firm represents the interests of multiple Middle Eastern, Islamic nations, and included Vernon Jordan (now where do I know that name from...), that just so happened to recommend the reason things are bad is because of America and Israel (and, oh yeah, the Muslim madmen hell-bent on destroying Western civilization as we know it)??? That kind of bipartisan?

Bush has committed no crime, save the politically incorrect one of being a strong male leader (capable of making mistakes) who is fighting an unpopular war that is more necessary than any of us even realize today. It won't be next month, and it probably won't even be next year, but someday, soothsayer, someday my friend you will wake up and realize that the reason you do not speak German or are required to turn towards Mecca and pray five times a day (for fear of death) is because strong men (and women) were willing to make the unpopular decisions when the imminent threats reared their ugly, turban-wearing, heads. And on that day, President Bush (and I) will not require or want and apology; no, what conservatives will ask you to do is get down on your knees and thank the God of Washington, Lincoln, and Reagan that you live where you do and, in spite of your own shortsightedness, have enough of us still here to save you from yourself. (robbymoeller.blogspot.com)

mike -
That is a cheap shot. And entirely in keeping with the Lib philosophy: Can't refute the argument, personally attack the individual making it.

Stipulated: I refer to libs on these boards as moonbats, and have addressed kimberly as kim-bat. However, i do not attack them personally beyond heaping scorn, derision, and fact upon their (pseudo) arguments. They may all be decent people (probably are); just misguided in their thoght processes. Your statement is a personal attack and should be retracted. By you, not the moderators...

cheap shots, etc
Mike again,

please note: I said retraction by YOU not the moderators. While I may find your comment insulting and offensive, I will not flag it as offensive. Self-discipline and self-policing are warranted; not getting 'officials' involved.

To clarify: I tend to refer to libs, and Kimberly in particular as moonbats because their opinions are quite batty...

dash 42
note the word irony in my post

Your comments might have merit if you had also condemmed pepermint personal attack.

Mike
Actually, i did notice it. Didn't find it ironic though. Perhaps the lack of caffeine. As to Peppermint's personal attack - haven't noticed one. Though I agree with your unstated observation: Personal attacks not needed.

Fair enough? And self policing is the way to go, not flagging stuff to the attention of the moderator that adults can agree to disagree upon. and apologize for...

Excuse me............
..........but I just had to throw up when I read the post that Clinton was the greatest president in this lifetime.......*hack* *cough*

Lynne - great post. To compare Hillary Clinton to Margaret Thatcher is an insult to a great lady. Thatcher was a great PM and did a lot for Great Britain. Hillary got us a health care debacle, Whitewater, generaly hypocrisy.... no thank you!

Hillary is such a polarizing figure - either you love her or hate her. I honestly think she doesn't stand a chance of getting elected. A woman is ready to be president, but not this one. She doesn't have what it takes.

MMike
What the hey are you talking about? My parents are dead by the way. Good luck talking to them. I think the pilots on the plane with Clinton are good enough evidence.

GunnyG
GunnyG writes: Thursday, January, 25, 2007 2:58 PM
MINNESOTA MIKE
Minnesota is in my thoughts lately as is Keith Ellison.
You Dhimmi yet?

GunnyG,
I live in Minne-snow-ta,(TwinCities), and not everyone here is a dhimmycrap like mike. Keith Ellison is from the WORST part of Minneapolis. He got elected because his skin color matched the majority of the voters in that particular district; and he p