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Thursday, November 13, 2008
Amanda Carpenter :: Townhall.com Columnist
GOP Sens Squishy on Stevens Fate
by Amanda Carpenter
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Republican senators are reluctant to take a firm stand to eject their colleague Ted Stevens from the GOP caucus before the outcome of his re-election race is determined.

Jim DeMint’s (R.-S.C.) calls to strip Stevens of his committee assignments and deprive him of participating in leadership elections have gained little support from the leaders of his party who have promised again and again they would take action to restore their party’s credibility.

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell has called on Stevens to resign after he was convicted of making false statements on his financial disclosure forms, but McConnell and others are refraining from making any commitment to oust Stevens until it's clear he will retain his seat in the next Congress.

Leader McConnell, did however, tell the Kentucky Herald-Leader if Stevens does not resign, "there is 100 percent certainty he would be expelled from the Senate."

DeMint wants the GOP to take action against Stevens now. He's demanding a behind-closed-doors vote on whether or not the Alaskan senator is welcome in their caucus next Tuesday morning.

Stevens is reported to be privately calling Republican senators to ask them to delay any judgment until his appeals process is completed, which could take years.

Like McConnell, other Republicans are willing to hold off until Stevens’s votes are counted before taking a position.

Sen. Saxby Chambliss (R.-Ga.), deadlocked in his own contentious election recount and Sen. John Ensign (R.-Nev.), chairman of the National Republican Senatorial Committee, said in a Wednesday press conference they believed Stevens should be removed, but only if he wins his race.

Chambliss told the Atlanta Journal Constitution, “I hope Sen. Stevens is successful in being reelected. And assuming that he is, I intend to support any motion to remove him.”

Ensign said, “It’s probably better to let Alaska — it’s probably going to take a while to count all the votes up there — let that take place, then after the first of the year.”

Sen. Mel Martinez (R.-Fla.) told Roll Call, "If Sen. Ted Stevens were to be reelected, I think it would be very difficult, as a convicted felon, that he should remain in the conference. I think the Republican Party needs to send a signal that we are at a moment of time and at history that we are not to tolerate that."

Sen. Mike Crapo (R.-Idaho) and Sen. Arlen Specter (R.-Pa.) told Roll Call they were concerned about Stevens’s constitutional rights.

"My position has always been we have due process rights in our Constitution," Crapo said. "Until a person has been allotted all of their rights, we should withhold judgment."

Stevens was convicted of seven corruption charges in late October.

Stevens's Democratic opponent Mark Begich currently holds a 814-vote lead. Roughly 35,000 ballots are expected to be counted in the coming weeks.

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Senator Stevens
Did I miss something, Isn’t Ted Kennedy a committee chairman? Did Barney Frank loose his committee seat when it was found that a homosexual brothel was running out of his house? Why are we attacking Stevens, that’s why we have democrats.

Good for DeMint
That's kind of stones the GOP needs.

Sen. Stevens
is a champion earmarker and should be an embarrassment to any conservative for that reason. However, it is up to people of the State of Alaska to either elect him or not. Given the fact that he has filed an appeal to his conviction, he should not be judged by his fellow senators unless and until he has exhausted his legal rights. I personally thought Stevens should have stepped down on his own, but, since he didn't, I don't think anything should happen until the voters of Alaska are heard.

This is a chance
to show that we're better than the Dems. DeMint's right: he should be shown the door.

Re Pluto1:
We toss out bad Republicans because quite frankly we're better than Democrats. Democrats believe it's ok to lie, cheat and steal especially from the tax payer. Remember Democrats are the ones who would write bad checks to cash and pull it out of the treasury. But those same Democrats got re-elected. Republicans that did the same thing got tossed on their ears. Simple fact of life Republicans expect better behavior out of our politicians and Democrats don't care as long as they have power.

McCain Out Ahead of The Rest On This One
McCain called for Stevens to resign back in October: http://wcco.com/national/Ted.Stevens.guilty.2.850219.html

Consider him a candidate to replace McConnell as minority leader.

maldain
Good spin! It's the Independents that toss out the creepy Republicans. Too many Conservatives toady up the Republican-Socialists.

Robin
"Given the fact that he has filed an appeal to his conviction."

Are you going soft. SEVEN-TIME CONVICTED FELON Ted Stevens, a Republican, is going to retain his senate seat. Good job, Alaska. The self-proclaimed 'King of Pork' lives to legislate and get more pork for another day.

I remember when Ted thought his 'Bridge to Nowhere' was more important to fund than aiding the victims of Hurricane Katrina. No one will confuse him of being a compassionate Conservative.

For crying out loud.....
Stevens has been in the Senate since the Jurassic period....and McConnell, Specter?...you've got to be kidding?...and the GOP wonders why they are losing elections?

on a satirical note...there may be mummies in Egypt YOUNGER than these guys....good grief!

BTW...Robert Byrd?.....good grief again....NO wonder we have stagnation...

oh, sorry Amanda....yes, Stevens should be thrown out on his ears (pun intended)...needs to be NEW leadership from Alaska...hint...S.P. anyone?

Robin is exactly Right..

Zapdodat,
And since you seem to be concerned about the "Victims" of Hurricane Katrina.. let me provide a little update.. Many of those "victims" who were moved throughout Tx with their gov checks and muchlocal help, are still a major source of Crime.. Practically from day one wherever they are located, there was a considerable increase in nearby theft and break-ins, etc. and neighborhoods are now having to hire their own security forces in addition to the Police. Of course, some of the Katrina Refugees have become good citizens, but I not referring to those folks. Hope this info eases your mind abit.

The Title's Too Long
The title of this essay could merely have said: GOP Senators Squishy. Period.

What the helll happened to these guys, especially McCain? Have you ever seen such a bunch of ballless invertebrate jellyfish in all your life?

Psychologists must have a term for people who can't get enough abuse, who are punching bags, pacifistic cowards who revel in negative attention.

McCain can't get off the stage. He still dances like a step 'n fetch it circus stooge for Letterman and the other liberal hucksters. Palin and we supporters had to drag his sorry asss to at least a decent performance.

God, what a curse upon us.

reasonable enough
I am certainly one to avoid criticizing Republicans when they deserve it. But given that Stevens is likely to lose his seat anyway, the sensible move is to at least wait until the vote count is done.

Were he to win they would likely have to take action given his six felony convictions. By why would they waste time if the electorate has taken care of the issue for them.

Steven's Fate
The Senate Republicans should immediately expell Steven's from their caucus and ask for a vote to expell him from the Senate. Don't wait, don't let the Dem's, hipocrites that they are for not removing Jefferson in the House for a far more serious crime, take credit for cleaning out the corruption.

squish squash
What's to be squishy about? Send hom across the gridge to nowhere.

It's a DC court
When I thought this was an Alaskan court, I thought he would get a reasonably fair trial. It was covered up that this trial was held in a DC court. Give me a break. The chances this was not politics and nothing but politics is nill.

Never mind this juggling act...
As a Republican, I don't want to see a filibuster proof Senate. Having that kind of majority in the Senate destroys any possibility of checks and balances. It should never be that way favoring either political party. That having been said, Stevens really needs to go.
Any or all Senators or Representatives found in wrongdoing should be gone, no matter what political affiliation. Congress' approval rating is at an all-time low,and not without good reasons.

RE; Pluto 1-MD
I can't believe Barney Frank still has a committee after the mortgage fiasco. He was the guy who assured everyone, only a few months before, that Fanny Mae and Fredy Mac were doing well. Both he and Chris Dodd should have been drummed out of the corps. Instead, the Dems continue to cover for their favorites. There's nothing like integrity, especially when there is none.

Coleman and Chambliss
could use help.

Send what you can. You could have Al Franken in the Sen. in Jan.

If both Coleman and Chambliss lose, the Sen. goes to the Dems. and so does your wallet, for real.

Barney Frank and Chris Dodd still not only have their committees and powers, they are already warning banks not to *hoard* money, engendering the same kind of lending stupidity that led to the credit crisis and idiot $700 billion *bailout* that has turned into a $700 billion earmark for all the porkers.

I hope the Libertarians and cons. who stayed home during this election will be happy with the results for the couple decades. Their taxes, private health records, and energy charges will linger for generations.

If Stevens has already been convicted,
then he should leave. If he doesn't, it would be wise for republicans to remove him, even if it means a dem would potentially fill his spot thereby giving the dems even more numbers in the senate. It's unfortunate for the senate republicans, but if they don't, they will appear as hypocrites, and quite possibly, rightly so.

Squishy might be the wrong word.
If Stevens loses the election, then it's a moot point, because he's gone anyway. If he ends up winning, then the Senate can expel him. Sure, they could go ahead and expel him now, but there's not much point to it if he ends up losing anyway. Either way, he should be gone.

Throw the bum out!
If this jerk cared about his country and/or his party at all, he would have stepped aside in time for some other republican to run for his seat. But no - this jerk only cares about himself.


Crapo & Specter are "concerned about about Stevens’s constitutional rights"? Morons.

As Clint said, "Well, I'm all broken up over that man's rights."

He has the right to appeal his conviction, but there's no right to remain in the senate anywhere in the constitution.

Throw the bum out pronto!

Same old losing tactics
2006 "throw the bumps out" 2008 "dump on McCain," now is "throw Stevens out." This is exactly why the consevatives and Republicans are on a losing streak (abided by the cheating of the democraps acorn). Rangel, he is on the tax commitee did not pay taxes on his condo in the Dominican Republic for several years, dodd, chuck u schumer, franks, all got vip loans from country wide, all got their $$ from fannie and freddie but the republicans do not even call for hearings and investigations and of course the democraps keep on trucking, stealing, lying, now with Bush's help, turning the country into a central government controls everything nation and by the way, they don't attack theirs, they look the other way...You think franks ever tapped into a bathroom stall....Grow up, get off Stevens, you self righteous fools and learn to play the game by the new rules of the demoncraps ! Stevens had "work done in his house, pro bono" study his case. The guy is no child molester or like hastings a convicted crook thrown out of being a judge, yet another demoncrap that they protect.
chuck u schumer, probably an expert on the subject of ponography, besides the one that comes out of his arrogant pie hole, compared the "sensorship act" disguised by the demoncraps as the "fairness act" to the same type of regulations principles that protect the airwaves and legislate pornography ! only a scumbag slimey lying lawyer like chuck u would have the lack of integrity and conscious to spew out such BS. chuck u would of defended charles manson and probably would of gotten him off ! (with the clearest of conscious)This is the trash we are dealing with, so wake up and drop the self righteousness, leave Stevens alone, at least he knows how to win and does a lot more good than any of these demoncrap verments !

ProudtobeanAmerican, didn't your mother
tell you that other people acting wrong doesn't excuse you from acting right?

All those Dem bums obviously need to be thrown out as well. That they haven't been thrown out doesn't change the fact the Ted needs to go.

Stevens was CONVICTED OF 7 FELONIES!

Any moderately clean alaska repubican would have beaten Mark Begich in a landslide this year - I'm not buying this "Ted knows how to win" BS.

Yes Stevens was convicted
but at least up here he was seen as unjustly convicted, though that verdict did turn his usual crushing majority into a squeaker. I have never before voted for Stevens because of his views on abortion (He is OK with it. I am not.) but assuming for the moment what he has been saying is true, I can understand the desire of an innocent man to clear his name. I say if the Senate intends to expel him, they should try him (impeachment) themselves. Then if they decide the convictions were warranted, find him guilty and throw him out. The case looked pretty thin to me, but I was not on the jury.

Stevens is history
Of course it makes sense to ensure Republicans hold on to his needed seat in the Senate. What a waste of time for these illuminati idiots when there is serious work to be done, not the least of which is figuring out how to make themselves relevant again and to do the nation's real business.

CLASSIC EXAMPLE OF REPUBLICAN EXCESS


Ted Stevens has been out-of-control for a long time and the republican leadership knew it but did NOTHING about it. Even as republican as I am, I wanted Stevens GONE because of the outrageous things he did. He was a bad apple and republicans just let him stay up there and get away with crimes. Now they are paying the price for that folly.

But then, republicans are paying the price for a LOT OF THIER FOLLY nd will CONTINUE TO PAY the price for it. I am okay with that except for the fact that the rest of the nation is also having to pay the price because OF THEIR FOLLY. I don't blame the democrats for what is comming. They PROMISED us they were going to do it and WE ALL KNEW WHAT THEY WERE GOING TO DO if they won.

I blame the national republican party. They ran a candidate that was a complete dud. He was a DEMOCRAT in a republican suit and he didn't fool anyone. And here is one thing they shold know:They ARE NOT GOING TO FOOL ANYONE with those "moderate" candidates. And as long as they run them, they are going to LOOSE!!!

@David
Please speak politely. I recognize you have a right to utter whatever vapid mislogic you please, but it doesn't do anything except imply you have no better than a grade-school mentality when speaking in such a manner.

Cowards
That's because they are cowards.

More interested in their own skin that doing what's right because it's right.

David //A Washington Laxative
David... it takes a coward to attack a lady, you have attacked two ladies...Hands of Amanda and Gov. Palin, they do their jobs they don't need to get slandered and attacked by you!

As I was saying, a Washington Laxative is needed. The purge should start with the
Banking Committee Members and end with the Speaker Pelosi. Target specific, Kennedy, Pelosi, Reid, Franks, Dodd and the other Country Wide sweetheart deals members, continued with all excesive pork recipients.

Stevens
No, he should not be kicked out.

Not until the Democrats start cleaning up their messes.

Is "Dollar Bill" Jefferson still in office?

Unfortunately, we're going to
see a lot of behavior from the leftist illuminati cabinet that Obama has assembled that is looking out for No. 1 instead of doing what's right. We'd better get used to it.

I still say she needs to get laid
So too does Ender from AL and Mrs. Ramsey from FL. The one thing I've noticed about you right wingers after watching the Republican convention and Palin speaking events, the audience is usually made up of extremely uptight white people. Don't take my comment about getting laid as an insult, but rather as a suggestion to relieve some of the pressure of your devastating electoral loss.

WV Senator Byrd & Rocky
I do agree the "good" Sen Byrd probably needs to go!! I suspect his Gang of 14 (or whatever) has him in trouble with Reid as is Lieberman.
In any event I never accepted Rockefeller as anything more than what he has always been A CARPETBAGGER!!!
Byrd, Porker that he is, has done at least some good for the State...Rockefeller likes to talk and Mollihan is probably afraid that someday he'll HAVE to talk...Lots of ny fellow Hill-Billies ain't gonna like this oWELL

Re:David
I think you might be on to something. I have been calling it sour grapes but of course they deny it. Either way, what do you say ladies, how about getting those frustrations relieved?
If possible, I would prefer you do it Sunday night so that you can be all ready for Monday


On another note, can any of you Right Wingers name one Democratic Congressman that's been CONVICTED of a crime? See, there's a big difference in being Indicted as opposed to being Convicted. Just because you're indicted, doesn't make you guilty. When you're CONVICTED by a jury/judge trial, well then we're in a whole new world.

See this is one thing
that irritates the life out of me about Republicans and democrats alike.

First let me be honest here, I voted for Palin. (Before any of you flame me about her not running, the play on names was intentional)

None of these rino's want to take a firm stand because they fear they might look bad. It is all safe for them to sit back in their comfy chairs, and mumble about how if he looses then we dont have to make any decision, and thus nobody looks bad. blah blah blah

The good-ol-boy network at it's best.

I AM SICK AND TIRED OF THIS WISHY WASHY PRETEND REPUBLICAN PARTY FULL OF BITTER STUFFY POLITICIANS!!!

HEY, YOU...STAND UP, BE A STRONG LEADER, AND SAY WHAT STEVEN'S DID WAS WRONG!

THAT IS WHAT THE PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR!

A LEADER, WITH STRONG BELIEFS WHO CAN LEAD THIS COUNTRY FROM THE CORRUPTION THAT HAS BECOME THE CORE OF OUR GOVERNMENT THESE DAYS.

But nooooooooooooooooooo...

We have a bunch of pansys who are too submissive to their wants of power to take a stand on anything these days.

Well they better start payin attention, because the American people are sick of it, and we are PI$$ed! Which means, you are going to loose votes, fast.

Not a prediction, but a statement of truth. You've lost mine.

Flame me all you like, but it will never change the fact that I am proud to call myself a 'Palin Republican!'

You can all just kiss my Alaskan Moose A%%!

Ok Democrat Congressman convicted
"1972-Texas Democratic Congressman John Dowdy. After a complex trial in Baltimore that lasted 28 days, Congressman Dowdy, 59, stood convicted of bribery, conspiracy and perjury."

I just have to find one, right? Cause I can find more if I need to. But you said name just one. Did I read that right?

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