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Monday, October 27, 2008
Amanda Carpenter :: Townhall.com Columnist
Dem Playbook Shows Dirty Tactics
by Amanda Carpenter
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Dirty campaign tricks don’t die. They just become more refined with age.

Documents obtained by Townhall show the Democratic Party encouraged party activists to accuse the GOP of intimidating minorities on Election Day even if no evidence of intimidation existed in the 2004 presidential election. The tactic is being used again in 2008, this time to downplay fraud charges against a predominantly minority non-profit supporting Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama.

Weeks before the Nov. 4 election Barack Obama’s campaign said the Republicans are attempting to suppress votes by drawing attention to the Association for Community Organizers for Reform Now’s involvement in rampant voter registration fraud across the nation. The nonprofit actively supports Democratic causes, such as minimum wage increases and housing assistance. ACORN endorsed Obama for president last February and has been paid by his campaign to conduct get out the vote activities during the Democratic primary.

ACORN wasn’t a household name in the last election but documents show Democrats were just as eager to accuse the GOP of treating minorities unfairly in 2004 as they are in 2008.

A nine-page section of 66-page 2004 Kerry Edwards Colorado state Election Day Manual titled “Minority Voter Intimidation” begins: “Over the past twenty years, there have been repeated efforts by the Republican party and Republican Party candidates to harass and intimidate minority voters in an effort to reduce the number of African-American and/or Latino voters.” The manual then instructs Democrats how to look for minority voter intimidation tactics and how to publicize it to the media with special tactics designed for mainstream and specialty press.

Such intimidation tactics might take the forms of “efforts to create longer lines at the polls, targeting in minority communities,” or “slower responses to voting machine breakdowns in minority precincts.”

“If no signs of intimidation techniques have emerged yet, launch a ‘pre-emptive strike.’” The manual said this should be done by placing stories in mainstream and specialty press “in which minority leadership expresses concern about the threat of intimidation tactics” and “prime minority leadership to discuss the issue in the media; provide talking points.”

Some of the suggested talking points included lines like “Nothing is more despicable than trying to deprive any American of the previous right to vote, the foundation of our democracy for which so many have sacrificed.”

The 2004 manual said a preemptive strategy was “particularly well-suited to states in which there [sic] tactics have been tried in the past.”

The Democrats’ preemptive strike has been delivered from Barack Obama’s legal team this time around.

Obama’s lawyers are demanding that the Department of Justice to investigate GOP presidential candidate John McCain, vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin and other Republican politicians because they have drawn attention to ACORN’s fraudulent activities on the campaign trail.

“Agents of the McCain campaign and the Republican National Committee have been striking locally at election officials and boards around the country, sowing confusion and seeking through baseless legal maneuvers to discourage and harass voters and impede their exercise of their right to vote,” Obama for America’s General Counsel Robert Bauer said on a conference call with reporters last week.

Obama’s legal team is specifically taking issue with McCain’s remarks that ACORN’s voter registration fraud “threatens the fabric of our Democracy” and Palin’s assessment that there is a “choice between a candidate who won’t disavow a group committing voter fraud and a leader who won’t tolerate voter fraud.”

Bauer made his request for an investigation in a letter to the DOJ that said McCain and Palin were “sensationalizing this message by repeating it at the state and local level in violation of the law to harass voters and impede their exercise of their rights.”

Former Republican Sens. John Danforth of Missouri and Warren Rudman of New Hampshire are chairing an “Honest and Open Elections Committee” on behalf of the McCain campaign to take action against voter fraud. The GOP has asked Obama to participate, but the Democrats have declined.

Bauer said the committee will impede people from voting rather than safeguarding against voter fraud.

“They get a United States senator who's the head of the Republican ticket doing everything he can to make it harder for them to be -- to vote, making it harder for them to get through the lines quickly, making it harder for them to cast their ballot without impediment, without harassment, without humiliation,” Bauer told reporters.

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DUUUUHHHH!!!

Subject: DUUUUUUUUUUHHHH!!!
Folks wonder why the tape comments were released in April by LA Times. Are folks so Historically challenged that they can not figure out that the article was critical of Obama while Hillary Clinton was seeking the Democratic Nomination???????? DUUUUUUHHHHH!!!!

G. D. America!
http://www.nationalrepublicantrust.com/video_obamawright_nm xn.html

Please donate whatever you can afford so we can get these commercials on TV and bury Obama this last week in the battlegound states - especially PA

Cary

Your head is screwed on sideways. Nobody can beat Chicago politics for corruption and elitism. And that's where your guy Obama comes from.

Obama wins the socialism and corruption awards for this year's election.

Socialism
Obama is even more socialist than McCain, and almost as socialist as Palin is and Reagan was. I cannot believe we are going to allow this to happen in the USA!!

Sherry / Social Security
Sherry, essentially all your "facts" are completely wrong. Please do some research, and then try again.

Who plays dirty?
Sure, Dems play dirty. So do Repubs. How many stories of prosecutions for actual voter fraud and voter suppression do you want me to send you?

No, I'm not claiming that Repubs are worse, and I get sick of Olberman and Huffpo pointing to scuzzy Repubs when there are just as many scuzzy Dems. But I also get sick of TownHall and NRO pointing to scuzzy Dems when there are just as many scuzzy Repubs.

If people would stick to actual relevant issues instead of centering on BS and personal attacks, then we could learn a lot more about our candidates.

Think about it. Johnny Mac should have spent his time right from the start disavowing W and, more importantly, pointing to the real differences between Dems and Repubs in Congress and what that says about the likely difference between the Dems controlling the whole federal government vs. a Repub controlled White House. But no, he had to spend all his time making bogus arguments about Ayers and socialism and such, instead of talking real issues. Personal attacks instead of issues attacks.

McCain distracted voters from issues, and now he will lose. Likewise, by focusing on BS like which party has more scuzbags (neither), you become a loser for your cause and for your candidates.

Unfortunately, idiots in my party also make the same mistake. I'm not sure why I'm giving Repubs advice. I just happen to like truth, honesty and fairness on all sides of all arguments.

Don't libs Always play dirty?

Is it due to their lack of character, honesty, and self-respect, or their irrational "touchy-feely" intellect? Were they brain-washed in school, droppped on their heads as infants or dressed funny as children.. God only knows..

DavidMac, well said
But what was once classically liberal is now conservative. And in rebelling against the dictatorship of Santa Ana, who overthrew the Mexican Constitution of 1824, our forebears were arguably libertarian (as far as their own persons were concerned; obviously, many of them were slaveholders).

I hadn't intended to set a trap for you. Indeed, by stepping in the presentism, it is I who became ensnared by the loop, who heard a sudden whipping sound, and who is now hanging upside down with my change and my keys falling out of my pockets.

And now for a two-minute hate....

I am
I am with ALL you libs.

Good night and don't let the ACORNS hit you on your noggins on the way out.

Charles Martel @ 3:11 PM
1776: The American Revolution wasn't a conservative endeavor. It was an attempt to overthrow the legitimate government of the American colonies. The ideology at that time was what we now call "classic liberalism".

1836: The Texas War of Independence can't be classified as 21st century liberal or conservative. It was a reaction to the Mexico's failure to continue to provide a republican form of government over Americans who had been enticed to move to Texas. The Mexicans confiscated privately owned firearms and failed to provide public education.

I'm not going to fall into your trap of using presentism to analyze the American and Texan revolutions. Suffice to say there's enough of that going around.

The point of my initial post was to show that fear-mongering propaganda is solely a tenent of the left. That's one of the classic tactics of the socialists. Orwell's Emmanuel Goldstein (in 1984) is an example of the way Big Brother directed hatred away from a totalitiarian government and toward a possibly fictional character. The Socialist-Democrats today have substituted George W. Bush for Goldstein.


Amanda "The Rogue" Reporter....
is at it again. GOP vote purging, Watergate, this list could be really long. Amanda Carpenter is pathetic.

WFalicoff
Subject: Imwithstupid
ACORN was obligated by law to hand in all the forms that they received in the field. It was ACORN that identified the bogus forms from Mickey Mouse, etc. There has been not one shred of proof that ACORN as an organization has attempted to perpetrate voter fraud.

And if you think that mickey mouse or any dead person actually filled out those forms, well I guess I am no longer with you. You are not stupid, you are just posting from central state.

WFalicoff - I smell something burning...

Ooooops! Better turn around! Your Leftie Liar pants are on fire!

This is why it's so good that the arrest
of the criminals in ACORN began long before the election.

I know that they were set up to obfuscate while they tried to steal the election once again. I hope it is a felony, and these losers go away for a long time so that they stop scr&wing up the electoral process.

Texas? Blue?
Some good discourse.
Texas blue? Only in Austin. I drove from Austin to Houston yesterday. I was in my congressional district almost the whole way. Our Congressman is M. McCaul. A decent guy, I haven’t had much issue with his votes. He got me into a Whitehouse tour on a short notice trip to the Manassas area. My point is we have nothing (Austin) in common with all of the small towns in a 110-mile stretch of 290E. This serves neither the large town or the small towns because they balance each other out. This was the result of true election shenanigans in our redistricting. A question of federal money being given to state players. Tom Delay’s trial is this coming spring.
Mr. (or Ms.) Wfalicoff is correct. The sign up people get paid per signature. It was also pointed out that Mickey Mouse isn’t going to try and vote. Also, you would have looked right past John Smith or Joe Plumber (well, maybe not Joe Plumber). Luckily they didn’t have much imagination.
For the lawsuit dismissal, there is a kind of check list making sure that it meets all legal requirements (right venue, right court, true harm, there are many and I don’t claim to know the order or the weight given each step, just that the bar gets higher with each step) Because of the scrutiny, I don’t think politics has much weight. Moot point. I think they could have said it earlier so that if it had true merit it could be pursed. One thing though. The RNC hasn’t really said anything. They have enough lawyers on their side to know whether to pursue or not.

Wfalicof
I actually know a man named Donald Duck (he's in his 80s, so he pre-dates Disney's Duck).

Also, earlier this week the right-wing bloggers were up in arms about a registered voter named 'Duran Duran'--until, that is, an intrepid investigator picked up a phone book and noted that there was indeed a person named Duran Duran in the phone book.

And we begin to see the problems with the slimy GOP tactics--they throw legitimate voters of the roles. Their algorithms for producing 'no match; are crap. The Social Security Administration has stated that it's record have inaccuracy rates as high as 28%, and should NOT be used for the kind of matching purposes these empty-headed pubbers want to use them for.

In fact, Joe the Plumber, since his name was misspelled in registration records, would have been purged by the Ohio GOP is the SoS hadn't stopped their shenanigans.

Zenna P
That was quite a long rant. Hope that you feel better getting it off your chest.

WFalicoff
Surely you do not imply that ACORN would abide by any law !! They are not familiar with legality. They learned from 'the master'.

Why is the FBI investigating ACORN in a dozen states. for fun?

Imwithstupid
ACORN was obligated by law to hand in all the forms that they received in the field. It was ACORN that identified the bogus forms from Mickey Mouse, etc. There has been not one shred of proof that ACORN as an organization has attempted to perpetrate voter fraud. Given the number of voter forms they handle it is not surprising that some of them would be bogus. Granted there were some "registration" workers that may have been dishonest and tried to pad their applications with bogus forms (Donald Duck, etc.) They are paid by the number of forms they hand in to ACORN. But tell me how someone named Donald Duck is going to vote in this election? It is largely smoke and mirrors from the Republicans. The number of voters from the Mickey Mouse Club were small and isolated. Republican operative throw out all kinds of bogus facts and figures to bolster their made-up premise. When one actually looks into it nothing out of the ordinary is occurring. So far the only one that I know that was arrested was someone trying to register republican voters in California. Check it out. I look forward to your proving me wrong with some real facts not talking points and hyperbole.

Media Bias
Drudge now has the link to Michael Malone's article about media bias. I put the link on towhall last night. It is a great article. Surprising,too.

Mod Mark: checks and balances
"I find this case somewhat fascinating. The consitution did not give us a method of determinding eligibility. What right to we have to interfere with our election process for President?"

The eligibility requirements are straightforward, but it would seem that the Founders expected, as they did for all other contingencies, that competing interests would act as checks on each other's ambitions.

OK, so it's not the "fun" answer you wanted, but it will have to do.


WFalicoff Location: CA Reply # 324 Date
I am with you.

The Pot Calling the Kettle Black
The Republicans have tried to make a big issue out of ACORN this year.

No ACORN did when they help registered people like Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck and the dead. Or do you think Walt deserved more than one vote?

LMFAO (Not used with the Drunken Master's permission!)

I just saw the funniest ad of the season
How delusional are the cult members?

The dream of turning Texas "blue". How?

With rappers. That's right, I said rappers.

But once and for all, this is absolutely not about race.





It's about your money.


Mod Mark
That was not the explanation of the decision I had read. Your explanation was more detailed.

It is unbelievable that a judge would toss a lawsuit because of a person's 'standing',if he knew the birth certificate was illegal.Especially this close to an election.

If he knew it the certificate was legal,he should have dismissed it as frivilous. It does not make sense,but I am not versed in the law. It would be interesting to know his political bent.


Mod Mark
I am with you.

You must be talking about Palin and her $150K shopping trip.

Funny you never complained about Edwards hair and what it must have cost to take care of it. Or Hillary's pants suits. How much does your boy Obama spend of skin care products for his knuckles from all that fist bumping?

LMFAO (Not used with the Drunken Master's permission!)



Mod Mark: animal misidentification
"'Beware of wolves in sheep clothing!!'
You must be talking about Palin and her $150K shopping trip."

No, that's a pit-bull in fox's clothing, but thanks for playing.


The Pot Calling the Kettle Black
The Republicans have tried to make a big issue out of ACORN this year. This voter fraud "fraud" is a common theme from Republicans who accuse Democrats of trying to steal the election through illegal registration of voters. First, there is nothing illegal about what ACORN is doing. ACORN doesn't register anyone. They gather registration forms from potential voters and then send them to state election officials who decide whether or not these are valid voters. ACORN is required to hand in all the forms they receive. They categorize them into three piles: probable good ones, possible good ones, likely bad ones. The Mickey Mouse ones go into category three. In reality it is the Republicans who are trying to corrupt the voting process by inflammatory statements about ACORN. It is the Republicans who are trying to disenfranchise a million voters in NY and hundreds of thousands in other states. The Republican party is not complaining about the obscure ballot in North Carolina that disenfranchises as much a one hundred thousand voters every election. http://www.charlotteobserver.com/406/story/236903.html
A ballot law passed in 1967 by Democrats provides for a "straight ticket” voting box. In a Presidential election the "straight ticket" box does not include voting for President. No complaints from the Republican party about this ballot. This year in Florida there are four thousand lawyers who will be monitoring the polling stations and surrounding areas to prevent dirty tricks from playing a part in who becomes President of the US. And guess what these lawyers are from the democratic party. Why because in years past thousands of legitimate voters were disenfranchised. Police set up road blocks to stop voters from getting to the polls. People were removed from the voter list without any reason at all. Ms. Carpenter you should be ashamed of what your party is doing this Presidential election.

ImWith: Yahoo!
I stand corrected: they can both rot in hell.


Mod Mark
I am with you.

running gag? Who says I'm joking?

LMFAO (Not used with the Drunken Master's permission!)



Mod Mark: if it comes to that...
"The second possibility is that a member of Congress could challenge the eligibility of a presidential candidate as part of the process by which Congress counts the Electoral College votes."

If it comes to that, then perhaps some newly defeated GOP Congressman, whose age precludes running again and whose pension is secure, will step forward and fall on that sword.


Charles Martel says
The same way the Chinese do it now -- with help from Google.

Don't forget Yahoo's dirty little secret! I use to have an e-mail addy that I contacted with them and let them know how much I appreciated them turning in Chinese citizens for speaking out against their government on the internet.
It wasn't just google.

http://www.betanews.com/article/Did_Yahoo_Knowingly_Turn_O ver_a_Customer_to_the_Chinese_Police/1186418569

Zena P #306
P.S.
ThXs for raising hell about the possible fraud in voting in time....it prodded the people's memory of the stolen bush election. LOl ! Nine more days to go?

I am with you!

slave-holding? The Republicans put an end to that long ago, what are you inhaling? Let me guess, you are snorting the kool aid before you add the water.
BTW, your BDS is an automatic disqualification of you making any sense. Kind of like your post in general.

LMFAO (Not used with the Drunken Master's permission!)



Zena, you should read the actual history
...and not the made-up kind.

"ThXs for raising hell about the possible fraud in voting in time....it prodded the people's memory of the stolen [B]ush election."

Yes, but that was an *illusion*, discredited many times over by the very news agencies that first trumpeted it.

Only people who have drunk deeply of the Kool-Aid -- that metaphor again! -- have any otherwise repressed "memories" of the police dogs and firehoses.

Absent the Kool-Aid, you would know that voter turnout in Florida in 2000 was its highest up to that time.

You should know that not only does Kool-Aid promote hallucinations, but all that sugar can't be good for you either.


What happens on the 5th?
Real America? Re-education? Re-education is not really an American deal. If you want to stay uneducated, that is your right. Many people have many ideas about what an education is. We just had a good 8-year Bush (14 years if you live in Texas) education. Typically communist governments talk re-education because they can’t stand it that someone does not think like them. No government that suppresses free thought can possibly survive. You hurl insults and question everything about a person who disagrees with you. You wrap yourselves in a flag of a country you don’t know anything about.

Zena, you need to get rid of the anger
"first of all, all u businessmen and political republicans have tried to take this country back to the days of slave-holding."

The circumstance of employment in today's America that most closely resembles actual serfdom is the way your medical insurance is provided. Under McCain's plan, the individual will finally be put on a level plain tax-wise with the employer. YOU get the tax credit, and your employer should happily pay YOU what he now pays for your insurance; after all, it is already part of your compensation, and he gets the benefit of not having to adminster the plan himself. From that point on, your policy follows YOU, freeing you from having to stay in an unpleasant work environment (which it would seem from your rant that you have found) without the fear of losing your coverage.

"And then you actually have the nerve to try and steal the 'Kool-aid' saying when everyone knows that started by Democrats..."

If by that, you mean that the followers of Obama are a cult, then yes. The phrase "drink the Kool-Aid" actually dates back to November 1978, when the members of Jim Jones's "People's Temple" cult committed mass suicide in Guyana by that very means.

As for your cocaine-related remarks, I'm pretty sure that the only candidate this year with that in his confessed history is The One.

And I sleep quite soundly at night, thanks for asking.

Mod Mark says
Subject: Mr. Stupid

Boy, I am with you all the time. If I am "ImWithStupid," that would make you "Mr. Stupid." First name "Lefty".
Man, buy em books, send em to school and they eat the books. They must need the fiber real bad.

LMFAO (Not used with the Drunken Master's permission!)

Dirty tactics?
Amanda, it does not surprise me at all. It had been done for a while, since those that want to take power don't care how they obtain it or what it cost by smearing, lying and discrediting anyone that get on their way. The real truth is that some one more powerful than their ambitions is watching them. Judgement day will come and each an everyone will be facing the Judge they can NOT buy, fool or mocked. It will be a sad day for all of them. Meantime we will be paying the price with these selfish self-centered individuals, because some of our voters, who claimed to be Christians, made the horrible mistake to elect and ungodly person to our most highly position in our country. A man with NO respect for life and does not obey God's commandments, is a dangerous person to the citizens of any country. Beware of wolves in sheep clothing!!
It's the warning of The Almighty God to all His Children, and it had never failed!
WAKE UP AMERICA BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE!

Mod Mark: "card check"
"Card Check" will be the law under Obama, Pelosi, and Reid.

Even the venerable Democrat and 1972 presidential nominee George McGovern has made an ad opposing it.


Mod Mark


Mod Mark says:
"It was not for the judge to decide, it is up to the Congress or state to rule on eligibility".

What do you mean ?

P.S.
ThXs for raising hell about the possible fraud in voting in time....it prodded the people's memory of the stolen bush election. LOl ! Nine more days to go?

Lying, Cheating, and Stealing
All you pubes drank your Kool-aid today I see. Let me see, first of all, all u businessmen and political republicans have tried to take this country back to the days of slave-holding. Dirty tricks to deny American workers living wages, benefits and legal recourse when you get caught screwing him over. You talk nasty to the average Joes and call him lazy while you sit on ur btts typing nasty comments to people and stealing old folks retirement funds. And then you actually have the nerve to try and steal the 'Kool-aid' saying when everyone knows that started by Democrats who were discussing these very things about you all on the forums. Shame, shame, shame. And yet you have no no shame for all the sins you've committed including deceiving good church folks so you could screw over the entire country. How do you sleep at night? Oh, I guess you down some ambien or other doctor-prescribed medication when it's time to come down from ur coke high. Yeah, we know about that too. When u finally get caught for your particular crimes you can always use the 'drug' defense. Or the devil made me do it!! You think it's fine to bail out the rich but not the poor. Which renders the phrase nonsense to say you're bailing out the rich. You karma is coming back to you. Just wait and see. Socialism is ok for the rich but not the poor. I'll have to remember that so I can attribute it to you brilliant dim-bulbs. You are spiritually, ethically, and morally bankrupt and you don't have a clue. And nobody can bail you out of that. But yourselves. Repent while there is still time! The end is coming....

Mod Mark: what to call us
"All you folks talking revolt, shall we call you freedom fighters or terrorist?"

Neither will be necessary. We would accomplish our goal peacefully. And you won't even try to stop us. Why would you?


It's true
When I moved here to Okc, the first time I went to vote the volunteers were Repbulican and they gave me a hard time and had a hostile attitude when they found out I was a democrat at the time. They are very exclusionary. The same way their churches are.

Stands: the Inter-nyet and asylum
"Of course, nowadays we have the Internet, so I wonder how the government of "fake America" would stop THAT from conveying information to its poor denizens embarassing to the regime."

The same way the Chinese do it now -- with help from Google.

"if the Clintons defected to the 'real America', do you think we should accept them as political refugees?"

It's still a little early to be considering individual applications for asylum, but seeing the PUMAs in action, I'm feeling more charitable toward Hillary than I normally do, even if she herself still has to keep up appearances.

By the way, if you haven't seen it yet, and you need a little cheering up, you should visit their website, "HillBuzz".

http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/


Mod Mark
I don't understand your point in your reply, "Concerning Satan, I certainlu understand your position". I'm hoping you simply misunderstood my position, which has NOTHING to do with Satan and EVERYTHING to do with Obama's position on the Employee Free-Choice Act. He supports it, by the way.

The Employee Free-Choice Act RIGHT NOW is in limbo only because Democrats don't have enough votes in the Senate to prevent a posssible Republican filibuster (it passed the Democratic-controlled House, by the way), and they also don't have a president at present who would sign it if it reached his desk.

However, if Obama is elected, both obstacles are going to disappear - and Obama supports this legislation. I wonder how you're not aware of this, given the amount of mention this bill has generated in the threads of a lot of the commentators carried on this site.

ImWith (3:51pm)
"One question. If we were to divide the states, can we ship our libs here in Indiana to TX for re-education?"

I'd rather you didn't, but I'm sure they'll want to freely expatriate themselves to Illinois or Michigan. (I hold out hope that Ohio, the erstwhile "mother of presidents", would join us.)


Mod Mark AKA Lefty says
But remember, Berg needs your money! Send a check ASAP!

DONE! Just sent some to him!

LMFAO (Not used with the Drunken Master's permission!)

highstrung OH GREAT, A NEW LIB
I have to hang with!

You say.
gofer
Stop crying!!!!!
Your just mad because your LOSING. Get over it, an Obama administration want be that bad. I don't buy all that nonsense that he is some bloody commie pinko. quit listening to talk radio and start listening to more cspan

Losing? You must have that same crystal ball that the rest of these lib dummies use.
Why not just send him to huffypuffy>?

LMFAO (Not used with the Drunken Master's permission!)

Mod Mark I am with you.
Subject: I would vote for Satan if

Man, you are taking up all my time hanging with you.
Satan is NOT a US citizen, just like Obama!

LMFAO (Not used with the Drunken Master's permission!)

gofer
Stop crying!!!!!
Your just mad because your LOSING. Get over it, an Obama administration want be that bad. I don't buy all that nonsense that he is some bloody commie pinko. quit listening to talk radio and start listening to more cspan

HOW DEMOCRATS CELEBRATE HALLOWEEN

.....They confiscate half the candy of the kids who come to their door and distribute it to the kids too lazy to go trick or treating .....COLOSSUS

Obama & financial crisis
What the heck is it with Obama's so-called better handling of the crisis. They BOTH came to the same conclusion. All Obama did was stay away and tell them to "call me if you need me." He made a point of not getting involved and for good reason. He didn't have the faintest idea of what to do. He did NOTHING during the crisis and that is supposedly a "better handling" than McCain. Wow, these people are really in a trance.

It goes right along with his stuttering an stammering. His subjects call it "thoughful" answering. It's absolutely unbelievable what these zombies come up with.

Highlander Juan
Yes,the judge only said,'Berg did not have standing to bring the suit'. If it did not have validity,why did he not dismiss it?

I don't think the 'secret ballot' has been brought before congress,just advocated by Obama.

Amazing...
When on vacation I often wander into gift shops and marvel, "It's amazing what some people would rather have than money!"

Looking at the current state of the election polls, I have to say, "It's amazing what some people would rather have than liberty and freedom!"

It's unbelievable the number of people who are willingly trading their freedom for Obama's bag of lies.

We Are Following Hitler
I came across a pamphlet printed in the sixties by a man named Ken Hutcheson. The similarities to today are chilling. Among some of the pertinent words were these:

"Unknown to most Americans is the fact that one of the first things Hitler did when he took over Germany in 1933 was to ban Bible reading from the schools. He also took control away from local communities and centralized it so that all schools could be brought up to national (Nazi)standards.

From then on German children were fed only the diet that Hitler wanted them to have. The German people did not provide Christian schools on their own when this happened because they had depended too long on the government to do everything for them and they had lost most of their personal initiative.

When they woke up to what was happening,it was too late. Hitler had learned that whoever controls education also controls the people. The communists also know this to an amazing degree. We Americans have yet to learn it."

Mod Mark
Damn I guess you want be voting for Satan then.

Imwithstupid IN
Yes indeed !
After the communist takeover they tend to do some ideological cleansing, it's an integral part of the "program".
That includes getting rid of most media, "intelligentsia" (academics or "cafe communists") entrepreneurs, farm owners and many, many more...by "getting rid" they mean executions just like the long string of them at the "El Paredon" in Cuba and everywhere else communism took hold.

Mod Mark
You said, "However, I would demand a secret ballot and will be damn if I tell Satan who I voted for".

Now you see one of the biggest reasons I will be voting for McCain.

One of the things that disturbs me most about the possibility of Obama as president is the fact that he wants to eliminate the secret ballot system for workplace employees to be able to vote on union representation and replace it with a "card check" system which would end anonymity of voting and allow union representatives to know HOW individual employees voted on union representation - and therefore open those who vote "no" to union harassment and intimidation (threatening phone calls, vandalism of personal property, etc.). If you believe in the sanctity of anonymity of voting, very commendable. Therefore, what is YOUR opinion of this "card-check" system (which is being marketed, by the way, under the Orwellian name of the Employee Free-Choice Act)?

ImWithStupid IN, Oct 27, 2008 - 4:37 PM

I saw that also. Lower courts usually want to claim jurisdiction, although the Supreme Court does everything possible to refuse to hear cases.

The lower court dismissal could mean the lower court judge was opening the door for the Supreme Court to hear the matter, or just (maybe for political reasons) wanted to frustrate Berg and have his case delayed until the election was over.

Berg is allowed to practice before the Supreme Court, so he already knows the fire drill he has to go through.

Time will tell. To me the matter is still open because 1) it is still before the courts, and 2) because Obama still has not clarified the situation by producing a valid and verified COB.

This is like reading a John Grisham novel.

SunThe1
Hopefully, in the scenario we've been kicking around, the liberals in Indiana that ImWithStupid would want to send to Texas for re-education would opt to move to the "fake America", as F called it, rather than remain in Indiana and be part of the "real America", in their delusion that they'd be better off under their fellow liberals - and therefore make the "re-education" process ImWithStupid posed to take place in Texas unnecessary to begin with.

SITE OF OBAMA PRESIDENTAL LIBRARY
EXPLORING SITES FOR OBAMA PRESIDENTAL LIBRARY
SOURCE
While exploring the possibilities for Hyde Park's retail future, the Illinois Real Estate Journal cautioned those looking to the possible 2016 Olympic bid as a retail draw. "What people should be considering is, is this the potential home for the Barack Obama Presidential Library in four years? " David Baum, principal of Baum Realty Group LLC, told the journal.

To Imwithstupid
You asked "can we ship our libs here in Indiana to TX for re-education?"

No you may not.

Cheating Democrats
No one is the least bit surprised that the Democrats cheated in 2004. Name any other national election and you will find Democrat fraud.

Democrats cannot get elected if they don't cheat and they can't get elected if they run on the real Democrat agenda. They have to lie so they will be acceptable to the politically naive.

Now there a few who would vote for Satan,himself if he ran as a Democrat. Actually,they may be doing that very thing this year. As Mt. T. said in his A Team show.."Pity The Fool".

People
If you want people like Stevens, Red Nancy Pe-lop-ski,, Diane (fix my hubby up) Finestine, and the fannie/freddy folks like Barney "bottom" Franks Do Do Dodd, and last but not least "The One."
Then vote "The One"

If on the other hand you really do want "change," vote McCain/Palin this time around and next we could have Palin/Jindal in 2012!

Obama's Radical + Communist Alliances


Who is Alexi Giannoulias, the friend and 'Banking Buddy' of Barack Obama?

Alexi Giannoulias is the Illinois State Treasurer, whose family's business, Chicago-based Broadway Bank, has ties to organized crime. In 2006, Obama give Giannoulias an early and avid endorsement that helped him become Illinois State Treasurer at the age of 30.

Alexi Giannoulias was a supporter of Obama in 2004. Barack Obama repaid the support to his campaign by having his Senate campaign use the Broadway Bank.

Tony Rezko, long time friend of Barack Obama and convicted felon, had ties to the Broadway Bank, having written nine bad checks totalling $450,000 to Las Vegas casinos for gambling debts on his account there.

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"Alexi Giannoulias, who became Illinois state treasurer last year (2006) after Obama vouched for him, has pledged to raise $100,000 for the senator's Oval Office bid.

Before he promised to raise funds for Obama, Giannoulias bankrolled Michael "Jaws" Giorango, a Chicagoan twice convicted of bookmaking and promoting prostitution.

Giannoulias is so tainted by reputed mob links that several top Illinois Dems, including the state's speaker of the House and party chairman, refused to endorse him even after he won the Democratic nomination with Obama's help."

http://www.nypost.com/seven/09052007/news/nationalnews/obam as_mob_tie_idekick.htm
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Just another Barack Obama 'alliance and associate'.

Read about 11 other 'Radicals and Communists' allied with Barack Obama.

http://hisfacts.blogtownhall.com/2008/10/21/obamas_radical_ and_communist_alliances.thtml





Al
I am with you.

He is such good buddies with your porker congress, I am glad they got him.

HighlanderJuan
I see on that site where it was dismissed for someone not having the standing.
It states:
This is a question of who has standing to uphold our Constitution.

That's funny. Americans did not have access to King George either.

Senator Stevens Guilty : Thats dirty
That is real. Senator from Alaska found guilty on 7 counts of lying. More of the same.. McCain and Palin.

Watchdog group demands
Obama release his donor list - and hie is not according to Judicial Watch. There are suspected illegal foreign donations not being divulged by Obama

http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/donor_obama_watchdog/200 8/10/27/144469.html?s=al&promo_code=6E3F-1

McCain will pull a Truman
thanks to the new Rev. Wright ads coming out

here is more info on why he can even not factoring in the destruction they will do:

http://www.newsmax.com/morris/?s=al&promo_code=6E3F-1

Mod Mark NY, Oct 27, 2008 - 2:53 PM EST

Pssst, Mod Mark - the Berg v Obama case is still active and is on appeal to the Supreme Court.

http://obamacrimes.com/index.php/component/content/article/ 2-news/45-press-release-berg-v-obama-dismissed-berg-appeali ng-to-u-s-supreme-court

Try telling the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

It'll make you feel better.

Todd
Hel! Wright can not even remember that is was Dems who started the KKK and it was the radical republicans who stood their ground when the KKK was hunting them for standing up for the black man. What a joke.


Mod Mark
I am with you.

No it's called "joking" in case you can not figure out. Man I spend a LOT of time with you anymore "lefty"

LMFAO (Not used with the Drunken Master's permission)


dirty tricks 3
lie...So far a great trick of obama's handler's has been to hide his "associates," through set up shows and the cooperation of the willing media and hollywood.. obama has all these radical associates who have said, some horrible things, and yet none of them "hang with him" during the elections. His handlers have set up the perception that they don't exist and even when they are brougth up by someone other than the leftist media, and he has to address it, he dismisses it, just like he dissmissed the 20 years with his mentor ! "The socialist, black supremacist, pretending to be someone else to fool the middle class" is the TRUE obama ! Wake up America !!!

Fooling the middle class 2
remember, "if it doesn't fit you must acquit!" It's the same lawyer trick but with a different set up ! For 20 years you go to the same church, this is your spiritual adviser, he married you and we are suppose to believe that he never spoke like this at the services "obama attended," and he never shared any of this with the man who called him his mentor ! 'The perveted sold out media not only conveniently perpetrated this BS but attacks anyone who brought up the questions ! fake oprah $$$$$$$$ knew to get out of that "church," or risk being found out for who she really is, a black supremacists ! sucking the $$$ out of the US to use it for it's demise..but, you may not be ready to believe that..I understand, I liked a lot about oprah myself, I was happy that she found success in the American dream, then I began to pay attention where her $$ was going...and then she dumped Hillary a woman for that guy !...she made her move.....but, let's go back to wright, Why ? Because he has been hidden through a "dog and pony show," Because if obama was still attending his black supremacist "church" the media would have no choice but to look into it, really look into it and obama would be exposed, more and more for who he really is..instead of who he is pretending to be..to fool the "middle class," and get the presidential power..It is all about geting the POWER !! The media and the left in hollywood like the idiot tom hanks, they don't want to be accuse of being racist, but they are because they have not vetted obama like they would if he were all white ! That is real racism...instead they both have been willing accomplices in perpetrating this farce, this lie...

Vote Obama
the candidate of peace and love - have a look!

http://www.nationalrepublicantrust.com/video_obamawright_nm xn.html

RealBlackMan
I am with you.

You say.
Former Sen. Larry Pressler (R-S.D.), who was the first Vietnam veteran to serve in the United States Senate, is the latest Republican to back Sen. Barack Obama's presidential campaign, Politico learned Sunday.

I say: Probraly another one hoping for a position on His Majesty's council.

LMFAO (Not used with the Drunken Master's permission)

Charles Martel
You said, "I can just imagine some future Reaganite addressing a crowd near the boundary between, say, Indiana and Illinois, and calling out to the President-for-Life, "Mr. Obama, tear down that wall!"

BRAVO! What a treat THAT would be!

And I guess the "real America" F referred to in his post, where you and I would be living in this future scenario, would have to revive Radio Free Europe or Radio Liberty, or something akin to them, to broadcast to the unfortunate captives in "fake America". Maybe we can call it "Radio Free America". Of course, like the communists did with RFE or RL, the government of "fake America" would immediately begin trying to jam it. Of course, nowadays we have the Internet, so I wonder how the government of "fake America" would stop THAT from conveying information to its poor denizens embarassing to the regime. Although I can guess: it would probably forbid people from privately owning PC's under penalty of imprisonment or execution, and whatever PC's WERE open to public use would be heavily censored and regimented.

By the way, if the Clintons defected to the "real America", do you think we should accept them as political refugees? Or turn them back over to the government of "fake America" - where all but certainly they would be facing a firing squad or a hangman's noose?

Charles Martel says:
Standshisground: a future Reagan
I can just imagine some future Reaganite addressing a crowd near the boundary between, say, Indiana and Illinois,

That would be Indiana. One question. If we were to divide the states, can we ship our libs here in Indiana to TX for re-education?
LMFAO (Not used with the Drunken Master's permission)

Egon Reply # 246
Did I hear that KGB guy right? After a Soviet take over of any country, the leftist are taken out and killed by the Communist? WoW!

Former GOP senator, vet backs Obama
Former Sen. Larry Pressler (R-S.D.), who was the first Vietnam veteran to serve in the United States Senate, is the latest Republican to back Sen. Barack Obama's presidential campaign, Politico learned Sunday.

Pressler, who said that in addition to casting an absentee ballot for Obama he'd donated $500 to the Illinois senator's campaign, cited the Democrat's response to the financial crisis as the primary reason for his decision.

"I just got the feeling that Obama will be able to handle this financial crisis better, and I like his financial team of [former Treasury Secretary Robert] Rubin and [former Federal Reserve Chairman Paul] Volcker better," he said. By contrast, John McCain's "handling of the financial crisis made me feel nervous."

The former senator added that he hoped the next president would help place restraints on executive pay, and said: "I don't think [McCain] will take action in that area, or he's as likely to."

http://dyn.politico.com/members/forums/thread.cfm?catid=1&s ubcatid=2&threadid=1699181

F
I am with you!

You say:
Wow - you haven't even lost yet and you're resorting to treason - I'm not surprised

And I say:
What's the matter? Afraid of losing your meal ticket that is the "working man?"

LMFAO (Not used with the Drunken Master's permission)

A Vet Looks at Barack Obama
I can safely say that Barack Obama is a Marxist allied with a domestic terrorist, Islamists, and other radical leftists for at least the last 21 years on project after project with the purpose of subverting the United States. With a massive influx of money from Islamist and radical left sources, voter fraud, and a biased press; they're on the verge of succeeding.

http://www.pr-inside.com/william-ayers-and-barack-obama-fin ally-r797225.htm

This unrepentant domestic terrorist, as head of the Weather Underground, was planning to kill 25 million Americans who couldn't be 'reeducated'.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJn5b8_weUY

I'm a Vietnam veteran who after watching the DVD 'Obsession' about Islamic terrorism and reading Brigitte Gabriel's book 'Because They Hate' decided to find out what I could about Barack Obama. It has me truly concerned for this nation that I love. You can see more about Obama and his allies on my blog.

For me the most important article I found to understand Barack Obama is at http://www.faithfreedom.org/obama.html

If you believe in the accuracy of what I present on my blog and know someone who may benefit from a better understanding of Barack Obama please feel free to email it to them.

Dirty compaign.
Nothing new, just Chicago politics before people wake up they will have a change , only CHANGE left in their pockets.Some people learn only the hard way that's why we called the CROOK County.

Fooling the from middle class
Middle class Americans, the largest voting block in our country despite the BS of the fakecrats who constantly try to convince US that it doesn't exists..except during elections when these fakecrats work overtime to lie and bs them to vote for them.

Is election time so they have been busy with their bs, lies and tricks. With the cooperation of the mass media, controlled by the leftist anti-American, they pulled one of the biggest "magic tricks" (but could not do it without the willing ignorant for their own convenience, media) Hiding obama's "Associates." How can the media be so "SMART," and no one asks whether wright's shows were a set up for obaliar to come out, first stand by him, and then show "the middle class, specially the whites" that he does not believe in those "radical views" of revolting wright, and conveniently taking all conversation of wright out of the current elections arena ! Yet if you read his writings and listen to his interviews he absolutely believes this stuff, is just that he is a polished speaker with a lawyer's training and with an agenda that will not allow him to behave like that or he cannot fool the "middle class," which he cannot win without..

Standshisground: a future Reagan
I can just imagine some future Reaganite addressing a crowd near the boundary between, say, Indiana and Illinois, and calling out to the President-for-Life, "Mr. Obama, tear down that wall!"


F in NY
Actually, you would think their home page links to ALL polls they work on
http://www.gallup.com/Home.aspx
so your impertinent remark about the Rays just points to how foolish you are

On another matter, F in NY, we need your donation to help educate the American people about your man O - can you help?

Coming to a TV screen near you (actually you are in NY - that's hopeless) in a battleground state near you soon we have a nice spot on the Wrong Rev. Wright and Obama = BFF!

http://www.nationalrepublicantrust.com/video_obamawright_nm xn.html


Julia's memory is THAT short?
"Spreading gossip ... is certainly not on the list of Dems. Only you Rep. can think of something so sick!"

Really??

Sherman, set the way-back machine to only eight weeks ago and tell me, who is little Trig Palin's mother?


F
If it ever gets to the point where, as you said, "go ahead - you take the real America - we'll take the fake one - you know - the one that supports the real one... we'll see how good your states survive without our tax dollars supporting you... ", the only way the "fake" America will be able to keep droves of its people from fleeing to the "real" America will be to build its OWN version of the Berlin Wall!

Because once the policies of the "fake" America, with no conservative opposition to check them from having the full monty of their inexorably destructive impact, destroy "fake America"'s economy and turn it into a totalitarian state to boot (because that's what leftists love), the unfortunate citizens of "fake America", or enough of them, and likely the better-educated and more productive element of the population, will be looking to cross the border into "real America" in bigger waves than illegals from south of our border already do - to the land of economic and political freedom. So how will you be able to keep the citizenry of "fake America" from defecting to "real America" at that point? Only by force - ergo, another Berlin Wall. Would be interesting to see at that point how the leaders of "fake America" explain to the world, with the backdrop of their OWN Berlin Wall, why, if their citizens love their system so much, they have to keep them there by armed force.

DavidMac (2:07pm), since you ask...
"When was the last right-wing riot or the last conservative civil disobedience in the USA?"

As it happens, we *have* done it before. And every schoolchild knows the date, except maybe those who were victims of the Obama-Ayers-led Chicago Annenberg Challenge: 1776.

We Texans did it a little more recently: 1836.

Don't make us do it again.


Proud to be an Amer.
Did you know that McCain hired the team of smear merchants that snookered McCain in 2000? They are the dirty tricks elite, who will do and say anything. McCain pleaded with Bush to stop[ with the lies, especially the ones about him being a traitor, but Bush just laughed.

Paul
is either a moron or planted on this blog by the obaliar handlers...I say the latter...because since he actually works a computer and can spell...maybe ?? he cannot be as stupid as his idiot comments tells US !

And these are only a few of the dirty
tactics ! Perhaps the dirtiest is calling themselves "democrats," with a full blown temporarily in the closet, black liberation (take the wealth from the whites and take over the country for black supremacist) socialist (listen to the 2001 radio interview that has taken this long to come out..THE TRUTH !) pelsoht and bsreed, power and $$$ freaks !

After all, they are sanctioned liers operating as lawyers, so they have no limit to how dirty they will get...as long as they can get away with it and have enough fools to buy their BS..which there seems to be too many willing participants and opportunists ..as of today !


Standshisground says

ImWithStupid
Gee, if I'm going to be casting a vote(s) some day in the future even after I'm dead, courtesy of ACORN or groups like it, maybe I should stipulate in my will that any votes attributable to my name after my death are to be cast STRICTLY for Republican Party candidates. Maybe THAT would discourage ACORN or groups like it from "using my name in vain".

Good luck with that. I can see the white out now with "Dem" written over it.
LMFAO (Not used with the Drunken Master's permission)

RealBlackMan
At least you haven't bought into the myth McCain will lose his home state.

I'll be here when the dust settles - count on it.

Gallup
is a joke - they write about Bush's current 29% approval rating and comment it is up "slighly higher" (5 points to be exact) "but is still one of the worst Gallup has measured since 1945".

Not one word anywhere about Pelosi and Read's 9% approval rating. Not even on the back pages.



ImWithStupid
Gee, if I'm going to be casting a vote(s) some day in the future even after I'm dead, courtesy of ACORN or groups like it, maybe I should stipulate in my will that any votes attributable to my name after my death are to be cast STRICTLY for Republican Party candidates. Maybe THAT would discourage ACORN or groups like it from "using my name in vain".

Bullies
I never liked bullies in the fifth grade and these same people are running unions and the democratic party. It should be no surprise that Socialists like these will do anything to win. Like Joe Stalin said, "Those who cast the ballots don't decide elections. Those who count the ballots do." I'm certain the dems have stuffed the county courthouses with plenty of these. Time to split the union into its distinct ideologies so the pagans can rage in their own country and destroy themselves and true red blooded Americans can prosper for a change.


So much info
so little time to get it out. Here is the link to the video of Berg explaining the birth certificate issue:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyspCRmJv7w

Here is another distressing story from Little Green Footballs:
The LA Times is Hiding an Incriminating Video of Barack Obama at a Party with Radical Palestinian Activists and Bill Ayers
That's right - in a closely contested election, the Los Angeles Times is concealing a video showing Barack Obama at a going-away party for former PLO spokesman Rashid Khalidi, attended by radical Palestinian activists and former Weather Underground terrorists Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn. Contact the LA Times and demand that they release the video.
How to contact the LA times:
http://www.latimes.com/services/site/la-contactus,0,1439615 .htmlstory

the server
is getting overloaded at the National Republican Trust so the link may not work at first - try it a few times because obviously many are hitting the web site right now beyond its capabilities to handle traffic

Democrat party always plays dirty
History and the facts have shown the Democrat party has always been the more racist party. I know Democrats can't handle the truth, so this is why they continuously say Republicans are racists and steal elections.

I have always found those that accuse others of being racist, stealing elections or intimadating voters are the ones doing exactly that. The Democrats are a morally and ideaologly bankrupt party, they have no new ideas that haven't been tried before and failed. They know they can't win a election on their own merits, so they play dirty and they accuse others of the evil that their doing themselves.

Please lend your
personal financial support to the folks putting up the good fight for Republican ideals at the National Republican Trust

http://www.nationalrepublicantrust.com/video_obamawright_nm xn.html

We need to see these ads all over the battleground states - they will make a difference

Obama's Redistribution of wealth in his
own words - check this audio interview in 2001 :



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iivL4c_3pck


Obama and Hugo Chavez, birds of the same feathers...

Oblahma-Bin-Biden can't be trusted to manage a three chair shoe-shine parlor...in Haiti!

More bad news for McCain
amazing demographic stats from Gallup....

On September 15, McCain led Obama 49 to 40 in the age group of 65+

On October 20, Obama led McCain 45 to 43 to in the age group of 65+

Folks, that's an 11 point swing in Obama's way in 35 days.

If McCain can't win amongst the older voters, he cannot and will not win.




The more that BO is
exposed, the more democrat trolls show up on TH.

Keep screaming -- it won't change the fact Obama is a Marxist who has exposed himself as one.

See the rule book here- Obama could have written it himself.

http://www.zombietime.com/prairie_fire/

@primus54
I will be back to see if your prediction is correct.

I'm looking at 54% for McCain and 46 for Obama.

We'll see who's closer on Nov. 5

Make sure you show up and I only have one request:

NO WHINING OR EXCUSES ALLOWED.

Deal?

Julia
I am with you.
I can smell the BDS and the BS! LMFAO

Upholding the law is now "suppression?"
All anyone has to do in our state to vote is show up with any of the many, many, many permissible pieces of identification, show the stuff to the poll worker, take the ballot and vote. The poll workers don't have any idea when you show them your ID who you're going to vote for. If your name is on the rolls as having legally registered, you'll get to vote. If you show up to vote on behalf of someone who is dead, that might be a problem--but if you have that person's utility bill, you could still vote on their behalf. What ACORN was trying to do was make it impossible for the registrars to wade through thousands of registrations in hopes of finding the legitimate ones, thereby NOT being able to disallow ANYONE to vote. ACORN would then be able to say that anyone who was NOT allowed to vote was being unfairly disallowed their right to vote.

So please, liberals, tell me how voters are being "suppressed?" By NOT being ferried to the polling place at someone else's expense? by NOT being paid to vote? What is the excuse this time around?

Mario @ 11:10 AM
Another post from the left, trying to create fear and consternation through propaganda.

Obama is the one! (who wants to create a civilian brownshirt army, probably comprised of a cadre of New Black Panther Party members)

Obama is the one! (who wants to allow the bush tax cuts to expire, thus raising taxes on EVERYONE)

Obama is the one! (who wants to nationalize the health and petroleum industries)

Obama is the one! (who wants to "take" money from the top producers and "spread" it around to those who don't pay federal income tax)

I could go on, but it's tiring and I don't get paid a stipend from DailyKos like Mario does.

Mod Mark
I realize you just can't help yourself - but I've flagged your 1:59 and hope you get booted from the site for the umpteenth time.

RALPH
I am with you.

In fact I need to go RALPH after reading that tripe.

What?
Did they start copying from GOP? Well, it was time.

I don't think there is a sico in Dem rows like your KARL ROVE!!!!!!!! And you have nervs to write about dirty tactics???

Spreading gossip about McCains adopted daugther as illegitimate child is certainly not on the list of Dems. Only you Rep. can think of something so sick!

Why don't you clean up in your house before you point with the finger at others???

Standshisground says
To answer your question, YES - and they'll be b*tching about 2000 Florida (and 2004 Ohio) until they're laid in their graves.

AND they will come back and vote if ACORN has anything to say about it!
LMFAO

Republican Encyclopedia of Dirty Tricks
So Amanda, with the elections only 1 week away you guys from the far Right are running out of time to steal the 2008 elections.

By now you are down to the last few pages of your voluminous Dirty Tricks Encyclopedia.

I guess you learnt by now that 2008 isn't like 2000 and 2004 so all of the muck you keep throwing just doesn't stick. instead the wind keeps pushing it back in your own faces.

What wind you may ask, well its the Wind of Change.

Change is coming, Change is coming ...

George Patton Jr III
Your post @ 1:41 PM sounds like something a liberal puke would write if he was trying to pretend to be a conservative.

I think you're using a tactic called "false flag". That means you're pretending to be one of the opposition (or the opposition's ally) and then doing something that is illegal, disgusting or disapproved of generally.

Nobody on the right is going to riot in the streets. When was the last right-wing riot or the last conservative civil disobedience in the USA?

Mod Mark from NY
There you go again, bla..bla..bla. Wow 3% off for someone telling you that they're not voting for Hussein, he does hate whites you know. Where do you work? I hope it's NOT YOUR own business if you're giving money off, YOU BETTER SAVE EVERY CENT FOR THE BHO MONEY-GIVER MAN.
As far as your man Biden, ha everyone I know is laughing at him. Here we go again, he and his mate can't answer THE SIMPLIST QUESTIONS WITHOUT GETTING SO BENT OUT OF SHAPE. They are the goofs that start these questions in the first place. Poor Baby Biden, couldn't answer a stupid question, then he wouldn't let his wife go on the station. What a farce?? What are those idiots going to do when a major foreign leader asks a question they don't feel like answering. I'm impressed.

Liberal Disease...
Liberals don't want to get a job because they can't think for themselves... they want someone else to tell them what to think and what to do and how they should act.

Hence socialism and liberalism is a debilitating disease.

You don’t see any socialist liberals who are creative, imaginative, hard working and innovative. They just want big brother to run things while true hard working American’s are punished for their success.

The great draw to this country has always been the fact that anyone can become a successful person if they work hard… but under Obama’s plans that will cease to be a reality. He wants everyone to get a piece of the pie, your pie to be exact.

I for one don’t want to support Obama’s tax and spend strategy. He will no doubt support homosexual and abortion agendas and every other liberal wacky idea.

Many liberal lemmings are following Obama over the cliff...

Primus54
You asked, "My God, are people like you STILL around b*tching about 2000 Florida?"

To answer your question, YES - and they'll be b*tching about 2000 Florida (and 2004 Ohio) until they're laid in their graves. And they'll undoubtedly go to their graves ALSO believing that Bush lied us into war in Iraq and that he also was the one, rather than Osama bin Laden, who attacked the WTC on 9/11, and who knows what other delusional things about Bush as well.

This is why I don't even try to refute the types who come to this board and express the belief that Bush stole the 2000 (and for good measure, the 2004) presidential elections - as well as all the OTHER nutty things they believe about George Bush, a couple of which I mention in the paragraph above. I know that the things I alluded to in the paragraph above have become accepted and unquestionable canon with Democrats/liberals, and their proponents are going to believe it, and all the evidence to the contrary be damned. As former Sacramento Bee columnist Linda Bowles said so well years ago, "I have discovered liberals to be unredeemably in love with their delusions." Therefore, as far as I'm concerned, if Dems/liberals need to believe the types of things about George Bush I referenced above in order to get them through the night and help them to keep their already tenuous grip on mental stability, well, let them knock themselves out!

With such people, facts don't matter. But then again, if facts DID matter to liberals, would they still able to REMAIN liberals? I say not.

I donated
just now for this cause, and I hope others can, too.

It is time the American people in the battleground states got to know Obama and the Wrong Reverend Wright a little better!

http://www.nationalrepublicantrust.com/video_obamawright_nm xn.html

my fellow Republicans
Follow this link and make a donation - I just did for $100.


put a leash on that puppy
You Leftists might want to put a leash on Mario. His 11:10pm post smacks of rabies.

It's not John McCain who has called for a domestic security force to be funded at levels equal to that of our military. That would be Barack Obama.

You might hear that and think perhaps of Canada's RCMP (the "Mounties") or France's Gendarmerie Nationale? Or maybe even Spain's Guardia Civile?

Then you're not thinking big enough.

Think Mexico's Federales. Think Iraq's Republican Guards. Think Russia's KGB. Think Haiti's Tonton Macoutes.

Or just think of the folks that William Ayers credits for keeping his and Obama's Chicago neighborhood so pleasantly quiet: think Louis Farrakhan's "Fruit of Islam".


Mod Mark
I will ask folks if their 401K is doing as lousy as mine is - thanks to Dems like BJ Clinton, Chuck Schumer, Barney Frank, OBama, and all the rest.

By the way, I just got an email that this 527 is running new ads about the Worng Rev. Wright this week in battleground states! Bye Bye Bama

http://www.nationalrepublicantrust.com/video_obamawright_nm xn.html

REPUBLICANS & DEMOCRATS
I can prove Republicans are smarter than Democrats. They don't hump other people's legs at dinner parties.

ALL YOU STUPID LYING LIBS
I am with you.

This site now deserves it's own song.
I say we rewrite "Who let the dog's OUT)
With "WHO LET THE LOONS OUT."
LMFAO


Over and out to the trolls
And to my fellow McCain supporters I say keep upo the good fight. McCain is going to win this thing. I can feel it in my gut there will be an October surprise for Obama.

I am going to go vote early today and see if I can find someone at the polling place whom in idle conversation can tell me why they think Obama's redux of LBJ's Great Society of 60s which was a total failure by all historian's measure is going to work now for Obama in 2008.

None of you libs here can - maybe someone somewhere else can?

RealBlackMan
Rasmussen poll of Arizona after bias and Bradley adjustments:

McCain - 61%
Obama - 36%

Watch and see if I'm right on election day.