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Friday, October 17, 2008
Amanda Carpenter :: Townhall.com Columnist
ACORN Voter Fraud in NM
by Amanda Carpenter
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The liberals defending ACORN's fraudulent voter registration efforts have said again and again voter registration fraud doesn't lead to voter fraud.

Well, we didn't have to wait till Election Day to find out they're wrong.

The Associated Press reported Friday that the New Mexico GOP found 28 people who voted fraudulently in Albuquerque during the June Democratic primary by absentee ballot. One of the ballots was cast from someone named "Duran-Duran"

The GOP's review was conducted in House District 13 and only included 92 ballots. That means roughly a third of the ballots examined found by the GOP were fraudulent. The New Mexico GOP released 10 of their suspect ballots. They ballots did not contain required identification information such as Social Security numbers, drivers license numbers or birthdates.

“This is a bombshell. We now have undeniable proof that a significant number of fraudulent voters were cast in Democrat primary races for the New Mexico state legislature as a result of ACORN’s voter registration fraud,” said State Representative Justine Fox Young (R.-Albuquerque). “No longer can ACORN argue that their phony voter registration forms don’t translate into fraudulent votes. They do and today we can prove it.”

The Republicans plan to turn over their suspected ballots to election officials Friday.

Conservatives are calling on Congress to defund ACORN of their federal funding. With increasing evidence ACORN is involved in voter registration fraud and voter fraud, as shown in Albuquerque, it become more important ACORN be stripped of their federal assistance.

The ACORN office in Albuquerque has been a beneficiary of generous federal tax dollars. Information from House Minority Leader John Boehner's office shows that Albuquerque's ACORN branch has received $349,253 in federal tax dollars since 1998.

ACORN fraud will cost taxpayers countless more dollars, in Albuquerque and elsewhere, as local election officials are forced to spend hundreds of hours investigating the thousands of fraudulent voter applications ACORN has submitted across the nation.

The FBI launched a nationwide investigation against ACORN Wednesday.

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Amanda Carpenter is the author of “The Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy's Dossier on Hillary Clinton,” published in October 2006.
 
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FRAUD IN PRIMARYS???
VERY LIKELY!!! DNC IN CAHOOTS WITH OBAMA. DUH!!! WELL THEY DID IT AND I THINK HILLARY GOT HOODWINKED AS WELL.

Research keeps reportes looking smart.
Hi, I live in Albuquerque and I work in media.
I did a 30 second web search using Yahoo People Finder, which kicked me over to Intellus and found 55 people across the US named... Duran Duran.
Four lived in New Mexico, two of those in Albuquerque.
Now, some of these COULD be duplicate listings, but there is at least one Duran Duran living in Albuquerque.
Thank you Amanda, you gave me a chuckle and something to show people in the newsroom tomorrow.

Thanks Ms. Carpenter!!
What a damning and wonderful article. By the time this news story had passed through my liberal rag of a newspaper, the "Hot Springs Sentinel Record" via the Associated Press I knew NOTHING of the facts actually presented in this article which bothers to present the facts as they are! All we saw was the photo of the police guard and a bunch of generic crap.
God save us from the liberal media, while a bunch of Govt. funded crooks (with OUR MONEY) steal our precious NATION.
tbrown

New Mexico
This is sad because it represents an unreasonable injury to a very valuable but delicate process.

The checks and balances within the election system, under every state's Office of the Secretary of State, are equipped to reject erroneous or false voter registration applications.

The Democrats have "open" primaries in many states, and a lot of Republicans voted in them this year. What they wrote on their absentee ballots is not harmful to the legitimate voting process, because those votes are all screened for accuracy once they're received.

What's harmful is having malice directed at the bipartisan, fairness of the SYSTEM in order to create an illusion of corruption or inaccuracy where no basis for such claims exists in reality.

With 50% of the electorate voting in the United States (in a good year) there is a mission for pro-democracy Americans to register new voters and encourage them to vote.

The forces that want to limit the number of voters are using smear tactics against registration drives, or against the preferred party of the new registrant's, in order to try to discredit their opponents.

Furthermore, there is no evidence that the attempt to spread democracy in the United States by registration drives is motivated by anything other than lawful democratic goals.

In fact, most of the rejected voter registration applications ACORN and other groups submit are flagged as suspicious by those groups PRIOR TO THEIR BEING SUBMITTED TO THE SECRETARIES OF STATE.

Clearly, therefore, the intent of Ms. Carpenter and the other anti-democracy voices, is to discourage people from voting. Additionally, they seek to establish a "narrative" along with their commercial media allies, that should the Democratic candidate win, the election would be illegitimate because the Secretaries of State accepted millions of illegal ballots from non-existent voters.

Always running for office
The truth is that votes are not always counted.

The polarization of America started when civil discourse and constant campaigning started. No one ends running for office anymore. An election is held, the votes are counted and the politicians start their campaign for the next election cycle. NO ONE BOTHERS TO SERVE THE PUBLIC

The elected officials are too busy running for office to do their job. LOOK at Obama who has been in the US Senate for 4 years and has campaigned during two years nonstop. He has spent more time running for office than he has serving in office.


baloney from MyOpine
The Powell endorsement only means that General Powell likes Obama better than John McCain.

Polarizing the country is being done very nicely by the left and the MSM.

The MSM and Obama's followers attack anyone wh questions their tactics and actions. Look at what they have done to "Joe the plumber".

A private citizen is maligned because he had the courage to ask Obama a question. Obama botched his answer. "SPREAD THE WEALTH" Obama then is defended by attacks on the citizen who simply asked the question that Obama couldn't answer...

An Obama administration will look like Hugo Chavez in Venezuela. No one will be able to oppose Obama without being called a racist or destroyed personally.


McCain can win on the economy!

The Economy is what most people are concerned about. McCain can win on the economy if we promote a grass roots effort that will get the country angry at the real culprits. If Republicans send out emails like I did to everyone on my email address list, then McCain could win! Elected public officials will only accept emails from their constituents.

Therefore I have access to only a few Republican politicians. If enough people who receive this email will email their friends, Republican representatives at every level from local to the president and every conservative talk show host then America will get the message.



This was the message;

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I apologize for sending this unsolicited email, but I feel every American would like to know who caused our financial collapse which is causing your 401k and your home value to sink in value. We have been betrayed, not by the obvious greed of the banks, but by our congressmen who caused this to happen.

Let’s not put the fox in charge of the hen house. Please view all six sections of the very clearly produced video at the following link.



http://www.teleprompterpresident.com/2008/10/fnc-fbn-inves- 6.html

The site can also be googled by the phrase, telelprompter saving our economy.

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You could also make available down-loadable posters and handouts which volunteers could hand out at supermarkets.



Thanks,



Bob Bryant

Email- netc@comcast.net



MyOpine
Yep, you are exactly the type of person that I Pointed out that harbor the far, far ,far rights opinions. Like I stated before on my previous post. Persons, like you only search one and only one type of web site. You jump to only one conclusion, never mind that what has already been reported by the national news. Yes the same news outlets that the Far right disregards as misleading and lying. People like you that post on TH will never have an open mind. Today on meet the press GEN. C. Powell endorsed Obama. for the simple reason that postings like the one's on this site are polarizing the Country! He as well as many Americans, understand the issues that are facing our Country. And your narrow views and stupidity are not helping to lead our Country into the faze of the 21century. You have views that no one can change. For you and many like you the Country will always be in better hands if only a Republican is Office. Well there are many others out there who do share your views. We view Gov't has that of the People and not of one particular Party. Keep it small and Transparent and made to answer to to us. And not cover it by refusing to obey Congressional subpoena. If you wish to considerate this Socialism, then what do we have now a Monarchy, answering to no one. And since your from California, I bet you voted for the recall of Gov. Davis. I wonder if you ever thought about who payed for the recall. Well mine and every other Californian payed for the recall. And not those who started the recall. That only increased our budget! When it should have been only those who wanted the recall that should have payed for it!


Obama and Indonesia
Someone in these comments brought up the subject of Obamas birth (place and proof) as an open issue regarding his elegibility to be POTUS. I really feel that this issue is going nowhere. It will never be resolved to everyones satisfaction.

On the other hand Obamas' living in Indonesia is all together another matter. I understand that under Indonesian law he became an Indonesian citizen through his (adoptive?) parent. If this isfact therein lies a significant problem. He lost his US citizenship assuming that he had one. He no longer is a "by birth" american citizen.

I speak with some experience. My son was born in Germany in 1962. He was a citizen of Germany by german law. He was a "provisional" citizen of the United States until he was old enough to renounce his German citizenship. This was not an easy process. I question whether Obama has ever taken such an action. If not he is an Indonesian citizen Not Eligible for the Presidency of the United States.

PC is Thought Control
LEE

Obama and ACORN
BHOs' involvement with ACORN began many years ago (pre-1990) in Chicago and has gone on unabated to this day. His campaigns' contribution of $800,000 just this year bears witness to this fact.

BHOs' involvement with W.Ayers goes back to their time in New York. It was here that Ayers convinced Obama to move to Chicago. Shortly after he got there he went to work for ACORN.

In addition Ayers/Obama funneled Annenburg funds to Acorn.

The activities of ACORN in several states and relating to this election clearly place it in opposition to the voter registration and election laws of the United States and local jurisdictions.

This blatant behavior is criminal. The fact that it is tax supported and extends throughtout the US brings ACORN under both federal criminal and Civil Rights statutes.

ACORNs' doors should be immediatly closed and all registrations and ballots so far put forward by ACORN should be immediatly labelled and held as "conditional". They are no good until verified and the various affected poitical races are on hold until this is accomplished and legitimate ballots counted.

States that do not have "Voter ID" laws need to get off their collective backsides before this particular problem gets worse. You can make book that ACORNs' mistakes during this election cycle will not be repeated in the next. They will be back, particularly if we wind up with a one-sided Democrat congress.

PC is Thought Control
LEE

ed
We are getting a little tired of reading the same Communist Talking Points PARROTED over & over by every Troll who comes to TH.

When you skip to the bottom of a thread without reading previous posts and PARROT Leftist lies that have already been refuted several times you look like an absolute fool.
This Mortgage crisis & Fuel prices were both DELIBERATELY caused by Democrats, for this reason;
http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=3036055756 73142

As to your fantasy of "People leaning to Obama"?
If the majority of Americans wanted Obama, WHY DOES ACORN NEED TO RESORT TO VOTER FRAUD in 14 States?
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=5E6BCB2 D-1A5C-47D9-B944-F757A1C3D25B

If you are going to come here with LIES, try for more plausibility and when you spew that much verbal masturbation, please furnish links to your sources.
Like;
http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=3041248998 39152

Robert, From MI
Taking a quote from McCain. My Friends It is you who needs to do your research. Its funny that only web sites like this can one find people away out there. First don't make your accusations with out concrete proof. Web sites are great for one thing and one thing only. To locate the information that one wants. If all these accusations are true let local and federal law enforcement handle it. That is if you believe in such recognized organizations. If not all those that bash either McCain and Obama, have one thing in common. lets trash someone without proof! Please spare me your opinions I get it, really I do. If your conservative every Democrat, is a liar and every Republican is Gods gift to the USA. Never mind that the financial mess this great Country is in occurred when the Republicans had a chance to do something about stopping it. Even though the Democrats had a simple majority they were never going to get the needed votes to do something about it. But who cares about this little bit of facts. When you all some how come to the conclusion that it was all the Democrats fault.
I guess you can blame them for the failure of our armed forces for never locating those WMD in
Iraq. Some of the web sites listed regarding information on Obama, are so far right if it were scale it would fall over on its own weight.
Stop with your BS If you don't like Obama don't vote for him! If you like McCain, vote for him! till then stop your whining. The childish remarks re. Obama are just that! G.W. Bush had the greatest opportunity to unite this Country like no other president other than FDR. But he squander that. It's no wonder that people are leaning to Obama.

Why do we want uninformed voters?
Elections determine the laws we live by and the people who govern us.

If someone is so uninterested in voting that ACORN needs to chase them down the street and strongarm them into registering then it is doubtful they know the candidates & issues well enough to cast an intelligent vote.

ACORN has made so many fraudulent registrations that have cast fraudulent votes that ALL the ACORN registrations and ballots should be thrown out and along with Voter Fraud, the entire Interstate Conspiracy should be arrested and tried for multiple violations of Civil Rights.

Ed in CA
A quote from your post made on 10/18/08 at 1:27 pm est:

"Once again, I see that the band wagon is so concerned about voter fraud, Socialist leanings, and of course guilt by association."

These things don't raise red flags to you about Obama? Think about them. If he was only passively involved in one or 2 criminally charged people/organizations, that would be one thing. But he has a history of being ACTIVELY involved with several. That makes the situation totally different and too much baggage for me and many others to overlook. I wish you and other Obama supporters would give it some serious thought as well before you make your voting decisions.

Town Hall
Quit being so dang cheap!!!

1-Invest in some good servers.
2-Or unload some of the ads.
3-Or get some IT people who know the servers.
4-Or Lose your subscribers!
The WHOLE FREAKING PAGE IS GONE JUST LIKE BUCHANNAN's

Please show me Ap original story
i searched there website and can not find the story thanks.

THIS ELECTION MUST BE HALTED NOW!

FORCE OBAMA TO ADMIT HE WASN'T BORN IN THE U.S.

HE WILL BE AN ILLEGAL PRESIDENT AND WILL HAVE TO BE REMOVED FROM OFFICE IF THIS ISN'T DONE NOW!

http://www.rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1 244/

Not so Mod Mark sayz:
Guilty until proven innocent it seems.

No, there are laws about who can run for POTUS and for very good reasons. As I said, if this "democrat" guy is wrong, why not produce it? I personally do not think he can produce a legal one. If and when he shuts down the lawsuit by producing one, I will admit they and I were wrong.
I am sorry if you think I am calling you a liar. My point was you take up for him far too often and that would be OK with me, but I don't believe a moderate can really think with all the different things against Obambi that every single one of them can be false.
For example, what is your opinion on him and ACORN?

http://www.gop.com/obamaacorntree/?sid=google&t=rncgeneral &r=ObamaAcornTree

LMFAO hic! (not used with blubberbutt the seatbuffers permission, because I will NEVER ask for it!)

McCain/Palin 08!
Palin/Jindal in 2012!

Biden shoots Obambi in the foot.
What The Dem VP pick has to say about Obambi:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R20pQK5KO2E

http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.htm l
Free Ramos and Compean


ACORN
We all know that Liberals LIE,LIE,and LIE. They couldn't tell the truth if their life depended on it. THE ONLY WAY THEY KNOW HOW TO WIN IS BY LIEING, CHEATING , DISTORTING, DEFAMEING, FRAUD, AND CORRUPTION.
Who is Barack "That One", Hussein "Steve" Obama ????

Conservites prove my point
Once again, I see that the band wagon is so concerned about voter fraud, Socialist leanings, and of course guilt by association. Oh yeah mainstream media. I guess Fox, and Conservative talk radio tell the truth? Well maybe to most conservatives, that drink way to much kool aid. Re. voter fraud, if their are the high numbers that have been suggested on this web site and others. Let the DOJ, handle it! On the Socialist agenda, don't post your comments here. Send them to your Congressman and your U.S. Senator! And mostly to the Republican President that's in office now! You all remember him don't ya! Before you start calling Obama, a socialist, remember McCain voted for this BIG bailout TOO!

HRC Dem/Fem stumps for McCain in NM
Hillary supporter says Obama is a liar, a fraud, and Palin is the true feminist, while Mcain is the real deal. Read more!

http://allanerickson.wordpress.com/2008/10/18/hrc-dem-obama -is-a-fraud-vote-mccain/

ACORN IN JAIL
Someone from ACORN has to be jailed.

Congress must stop funding ACORN.

The IRS MUST remove ACORN's tax-exempt status, because it is clearly NOT a non-partisan organization. (Just watch YouTube clips of their conventions and meetings.)

America: 7/4/1776 - 1/19/2009
Amerika: 1/20/2009 - the revolution.

Read the "Obama Timeline," "What Obama would do..." and "Obama's 95% tax cut lie" at:

http://www.colony14.net

Dang
My PC is making a dull thumping noise. Kind of sounds like ACORNs falling on Obambi's head. Got to check it out. Back in a bit Pals and Pukes.

LMFAO hic! (not used with blubberbutt the seatbuffers permission, because I will NEVER ask for it!)

McCain/Palin 08!
Palin/Jindal in 2012!

Biden shoots Obambi in the foot.
What The Dem VP pick has to say about Obambi:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R20pQK5KO2E

http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.htm l
Free Ramos and Compean


Well
Looks like the Buchanan page went down. I wonder if it had anything to do with wobbie da wonder wanger showed up over there?

LMFAO hic! (not used with blubberbutt the seatbuffers permission, because I will NEVER ask for it!)

McCain/Palin 08!
Palin/Jindal in 2012!

Biden shoots Obambi in the foot.
What The Dem VP pick has to say about Obambi:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R20pQK5KO2E

http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.htm l
Free Ramos and Compean


Hey OBAMBA Trolls...
aren't you proud that the "FRANCHISE" that so many have fought and died for ...

has been extended to Mickey Mouse, Minnie Mouse, and Donald Duck by your...

COMRADES in ACORN?

I always thought Obamba supporters were a bit "cartoonish" and now it has been proven!

Rowly sayz:
"He never told us he was a socialist".

You think the libs will admit we told them? I know I am not holding my breath.

Thanks, jax33. I try, and I seem to get by with a "little help" from my pals.
Like this from some of my pals on TH.
But-Be warned, the pukes don't favor the taste of the truth!

http://www.gop.com/obamaacorntree/?sid=google&t=rncgeneral &r=ObamaAcornTree

LMFAO hic! (not used with blubberbutt the seatbuffers permission, because I will NEVER ask for it!)

McCain/Palin 08!
Palin/Jindal in 2012!

Biden shoots Obambi in the foot.
What The Dem VP pick has to say about Obambi:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R20pQK5KO2E

http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.htm l
Free Ramos and Compean


Tough Laws On Fraudulent Voters
There should be tough laws for any person who registers fraudulently as a U.S. citizen and or who votes fraudulently like 5 years in prison if caught or registers fraudulent voters and if they live in another country, immediate deportation. If there were laws in place with consequences for those who are committing these crimes and those who are doing these crimes then you'd see the numbers drop off very quickly.

Ohio
I just read a post of GOPers and disgruntled Hillary supporters on the ground in Ohio. They seem to indicate that many people, Dems included are pissed off about the Sec. of States conduct with the illegal registrations.
Many Reagan Dems, who switched back to Clinton in the 90's are angry as hell.
Also, Sarah is pounding Acorn hard on this voter fraud thing. Check it out at hillbuzz.wordpress.com.

Paul

VOTER FRAUD AND ACORN

.....ACORN is the voter fraud wing of the Socialist Democrat Party ...

.....When I was a precinct worker in the 50's in Boston I saw ballot boxes thrown into the Harbor to keep them from election investigators ...just recently, ACORN offices were mysteriously broken into and all their computers were stolen just prior to an FBI investigation ...coincidence??? ...

.....Our Government is being stolen right before our eyes .....COLOSSUS

ACORN MUST BE STOPPED
Obama deliberately sought out community service work... premeditation!!! so clever... He then set about to train people for project vote way back before he ran for the senate..He knew full well what a corrupt organization would do to the election processes...This info is available with photos in chicago magazine 1992-3.. HE SHOULD BE DISQUALIFIED AND IMPRISONED.. LIKEwise with the democrats who were involved..ACORN SHOULD HAVE BEEN GONE YEARS AGO WITH THE FIRST INCIDENT OF ACORN VOTER FRAUD. what kind of America do we live in today???
America's survival is in the balance...The Obama messiah has not shown you his true colors yet..For God's sake even the muslims know who Obama is.. He is their messiah and we are eyeball deep in jihad..

Election Fraud
Amanda; Thanks for your report. Don't fear the outcome. When Obama is found out the election will be withdrawn and a runoff between the next two, McSame and Bakdwin might result in a return to our intended Constitutional Republican Form of government, like it should.

ACORN STOLE NOMINATION FROM HILLARY
OBAMA & ACORN STOLE THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINATION FROM HILLARY BY SUBVERTING THE CAUCUS PROCESS

In the Democrats' primary, we had the following anomaly; Obama won ALL the state caucuses and Hillary none, but Obama lost the popular vote in elections by ballot

Acorn thuggery enabled Obama to win all the Democratic caucuses and steal the Democrat nomination from Hillary.

State caucuses are particularly vulnerable to acts of thuggery and Intimidation and the caucus procedure was subverted by Acorn "Brown Shirts"

By having loads of Acorn volunteers attend the state caucuses and with their pre- planned obnoxious acts, filibusters, intimidation and delaying tactics, legitimate individuals relented and the mob took over.



Doc
If Barack HUSSEIN Obama is elected,and the MSM want so badly to believe he will be,I expect them to wake up from their swoon a little too late.


Obama always has an excuse for his 'crime family' of friends. " He is not the J.Wright I knew", "I thought Ayers had been rehabilitated".etc.

When the real Obama shows his ugly head and his real plans for us are apparent, I expect his mindless followers will also say," He's not 'the messiah' I thought he was". "He didn't tell us what he really planned", "He never told us he was a socialist".

These mind-numb robots will reap what they have sown.....too bad the rest of us will be required to do so ,too.

ACORN's voter fraud
Liberals (aka socialists) have a difficult time confronting the truth, even when it's right in front of their faces. It reminds me of that movie "A Guide for the Married Man." and Robert Morse's advice to Walter Matthau. Whatever happens,Morse advises, "Deny, Deny, Deny." When Matthau's wife finds him in a motel room with another woman, and the two hastily dress and the woman scoots out of the room, Matthau's character says "What Woman?"

"What fraud?" Indeed!

Socialists are blinded by the their own confused ideology. Even the appellation "liberal" is a lie. There is nothing in their conception of "liberal" which has the slightest resemblance to indivudual liberty. It's welfare socialism they want and they will stop at nothing to get it.

One has only to understand the history of the National Welfare Rights Orgaization and ACORN to realize that flooding the welfare rolls, or the voter registration office, is part of their calculated plan to bring about socialist revolution. The tactics may have changed somewhat, but the goials are the same.

Take Bill Ayers. He went from bombing to teacher training, trading in his violent actions for a calculated effort to indoctrinate Chicago's, and the nation's, youth through politically charged educational curricula.
He admitted as much in Venezuala where his efforts to use education as a means of bringing about socialist revolution were applaunded by Hugo Chavez. Ayers was Barack Obama's mentor and political bedfellow, and, quite probably, the unacknowledged ghostwriter of "Dreams from my father."





doc
you nailed it.

Not so Mod Mark
Hmmmm, seems there are two lawsuits on the birth certificate issue. Even the sate department refuses to co-operate with regard for the law. Now there is a job-4-life for a person.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId =78111

McCain/Palin 08!
Palin/Jindal in 2012!

Biden shoots Obambi in the foot.
What The Dem VP pick has to say about Obambi:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R20pQK5KO2E

http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.htm l
Free Ramos and Compean


Not so Mod Mark sayz:
Subject: So Doc
Now you are calling me a liar...
Well that attitude should swing the undecided voters over to McCain

This is a ploy to get people to stop criticizing Obambi, IMO. Sorry, but I can only judge people on what words they post here. And yours sure seem to run to Obambi’s side far too often for me to believe you to be an “undecided voter.”
For example the other day you posted that Obambi’s birth record had been verified and I pointed out to you that a lawsuit says otherwise. If he really has a legitimate one, why does he not show it to the court and shut up the critics? In fact the only way they tried to answer it was by saying McCain was born in Panama. Even though he had two American citizens for parents and was born on a military base. And I am not even sure the latter would matter.
Where do you stand on that now? As for my self, when that has been answered, then we can move on. He is hiding it for a reason and this needs to be answered before Nov. 4th.

McCain/Palin 08!
Palin/Jindal in 2012!

Biden shoots Obambi in the foot.
What The Dem VP pick has to say about Obambi:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R20pQK5KO2E

http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.htm l
Free Ramos and Compean


I would prefer
to see
One vote
One Person
One Time.

I remember

when the county clerk in Dona Ana County (Las Cruces NM) just magically found enough votes to change the winner from Bush to Gore and blames it on a typo and then some were foungd in a desk drawer.

Not so Mod Mark sayz:
Subject: Remember Doc
I voted for Bush in 2000...

If I had one dollar for every time I heard a lib claim that, I would have to take a lap top to Hawaii with me to post here, because that’s where I would be.

LMFAO hic! (not used with blubberbutt the seatbuffers permission, because I will NEVER ask for it!)

McCain/Palin 08!
Palin/Jindal in 2012!

Biden shoots Obambi in the foot.
What The Dem VP pick has to say about Obambi:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R20pQK5KO2E

http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.htm l
Free Ramos and Compean


Not so Mod Mark sayz:
Subject: Very good CKhuslter
You take a simple quote I made " Don't want a repeat of 2000 do we?", assume I meant Bush stole the election.
That’s because you are a lib wolf in sheep wool. LMAO

LMFAO hic! (not used with blubberbutt the seatbuffers permission, because I will NEVER ask for it!)

McCain/Palin 08!
Palin/Jindal in 2012!

Biden shoots Obambi in the foot.
What The Dem VP pick has to say about Obambi:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R20pQK5KO2E

http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.htm l
Free Ramos and Compean


Florida
Space and time forbid a complete analysis,but we were devout Democrats,my wife and I, until the Florida debacle. In 2000, we heard daily reports, via NPR, of course, of what was happening in Florida. There were assertions that, in four counties with Democrat majorities they still needed to do multiple recounts. In each recount, Gore mysteriously gained votes. Not, Gore gained in two and Bush in two, but Gore, always gaining. We heard that election officials were turning away Black voters with inadequate proof of registration or identity. Democrats were turning away Blacks? We heard that more recounts were needed to count the votes of people who had not been allowed to cast a ballot. Hunh? We heard that somehow those old machines did not adequately record the votes. How can anyone fail to push the stylus all the way through that punch card? We even heard one report that things were so wacky, "in one precinct, there were more votes counted than the total number of people who had signed the voter lists." That little tidbit was excised from the NPR report, when it was repeated, later in the day. We left the Democrat Party in disgust, but, also, in shock. Up until then, We had thought of the Democrats as the good guys. We had believed that the media,no matter which way they leaned, would still report the basic facts correctly. That was quite a shock, too. We got over it.

Rowly sayz:
If Obama does win,and with a 'government-run' media and fraudlent elections,how far are we from a totalitarian state?

Just as soon as he can confiscate all the guns. Not before. Having control of 2 outa 3 branches of the government, watch for it.

McCain/Palin 08!
Palin/Jindal in 2012!

Biden shoots Obambi in the foot.
What The Dem VP pick has to say about Obambi:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R20pQK5KO2E

http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.htm l
Free Ramos and Compean

Of COURSE it leads to voter fraud!
Karl Marx: "The ends justify the means." Saul Alinsky: "The most effective means are whatever will achieve the desired results." These are their playbooks. If we don't stop ACORN now, we will witness the greatest voter fraud in American history. The Presidential election won't reflect the will of the American people, it will reflect the efforts of a criminal organization to defraud the country. They are stealing the election right under our noses! ACORN's Big Lie "Voter registration fraud doesn't lead to voter fraud" comes straight from the Marx/Alinsky playbooks. Where is the outrage? Where is the FBI? Where are the arrests and indictments?

Doubts about integrity of the election
With proven evidence of voter fraud encouraged by ACORN and other sister groups, this upcoming election will have no integrity at all. One person, one vote, that is the way elections were intended to be held. Anyone who tries to defend ACORN is a supporter of voter fraud. The trouble is as long as Pelosi and Reed head the House and the Senate, nothing will be done about this criminal act.

Jeffrey has to be kidding, and his pals.
ACORN in keeping with the late great mayor Daley:

Vote early and vote often.

And ACORN is not the only bunch.

Here in Arizona and other states a group known as BAMN, or By Any Means Necessary derailed an initiative drive about affirmative action they disagreed with. They tread much of the same path as the ACORN.

Take a minute and Google them

If the GOP had a group like ACORN,or BAMN who already sports convictions for voter related fraud, the media would be howling from the rooftops.

Unless someone makes sure the votes in Ohio and PA are scrutinized Obama has already won.

No wonder Obama is so confident of victory.

Jeffrey has to be kidding, and his pals.
ACORN in keeping with the late great mayor Daley:

Vote early and vote often.

And ACORN is not the only bunch.

Here in Arizona and other states a group known as BAMN, or By Any Means Necessary derailed an initiative drive about affirmative action they disagreed with. They tread much of the same path as the ACORN.

Take a minute and Google them

If the GOP had a group like ACORN,or BAMN who already sports convictions for voter related fraud, the media would be howling from the rooftops.

Unless someone makes sure the votes in Ohio and PA are scrutinized Obama has already won.

No wonder Obama is so confident of victory.

Jeffery rants
Hey Jeffery why dont you take your hate and slobering nonsence and try to find a liberal site to rant on this is a conservative site

Christianlib nonsence
Hey isnt christianlib an oxymoron because liberal is a swahili word for liar and there fore could not be a christian. I dont care if you are a democrat or republican if you are a liberal then you are going to hell. you must mean christianhippocrit

m0t0


" m0t0
Location: MA
Reply # 28
Date: Oct 17, 2008 - 2:03 PM EST I see dead people ...
I hear that with so many dead people voting this year, the Whigs, Federalists, and Bull Moosers might have a shot at winning some seats in Congress. I think McCain's been egregiously pandering to the dead Progressive vote by bringing up Teddy Roosevelt all the time. Tsk. Tsk. "

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Mr. Moto, I know 'spew alert' is a highly over-used phrase, but the above DID deserve one!

Good Job!



The Ratas y Ratones, Ret.




VOTER FRAUD
You are wrong DivaDee not China their elections are much more fair than ours i would call our Elections like pre cold war Russia or pre war Germany The Liberals are doing their very best to steal the election For their liberal savior Barack Hussein Obama. Their battle cry is by any means necessary. If they win the election every bad thing that happens because of their winning will be blamed on the previous administration as they can do nothing wrong They see nothing wrong with having dead people vote as long as they vote Democrat

Couldn't Agree More
"Conservatives are calling on Congress to defund ACORN of their federal funding. With increasing evidence ACORN is involved in voter registration fraud and voter fraud, as shown in Albuquerque, it become more important ACORN be stripped of their federal assistance."

I profoundly agree.

Ed
You must be living on another planet or speaking another language. Everyone knows the mainstream media is shamelessly in the pocket of Obama. He didn't really need any political funding at all. The media has run his campaign (including opinion polls) for him! I even saw a poll on one Leftist site that asked who won the last debate and only gave one choice: Obama. Obama has so many questionable associations it has become obvious to everyone but the mainstream media that he is worse than a socialist. He sunk his own ship the other day in Ohio: redistributing wealth is all marxist! So sad that there are still people in America who think the tv news anchors have any credibility at all. True journalism died this year. Welcome to China....

SpicemanO
Forgive The Sillyness of my post. However if you bothered, to read most of the conservative, postings. You would notice a pattern of the same old theme. Republican = good. Democrat = bad.
They follow and listen to Conservative radio, and way to much Fixed news. By no means would I say the other news channels are not guilty. But, the conservative pundits, the likes like W.F. Buckley JR., B. Kristrol, G. Will and others. Have made the comments regarding the McCain/Palin ticket. One must really pay attention to individuals like these. Not Rush, Hannity, Gibson, and others. They talk to much and do not do anything but trash-talk Democrats. The vile remarks coming from the audience, regarding Senator Obama. ARE WRONG!!! These individuals are idiots and Morons, PERIOD!!!
And the lack of repudiation from McCain and Palin. Questions their true Honor. or lack of one! They and blogs should stick to the issues.
As fellow Vet, McCain, should put end to all this silly-ness. And if not he has already loss my vote and that of many other Vets!

ModMark
2000? In what way was that a fraud election?

Perhaps you can name a recount in which Gore had more votes than Bush in Florida? Or maybe I can educate you on how the Florida supreme court was ruling unconstitutional for more recounts? Or the 7-2 decision to suspend the recounting based on the constitutionality of it? Or perhaps you are just so retarded you won't get any of that anyways. Talk about a mistake for intelligence, making a comment like that. You should be ashamed of yourself.

I Won’t Buy Horse Manure
ed
Location: CA
Reply # 1
Date: Oct 17, 2008 - 9:34 PM EST Subject: Oh my God
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I am dumb and stupid, but I am not insane.

Only then would I be able to understand someone who will say, it is OK to be a fraud if someone else was a fraud first. Because you are a thief, you think everyone else is a thief.

We see the world and it reflects who we are. “All the ugliness we see in others is only a reflection of who we are.”

A person who is dishonest cannot believe others to be honest.

May God bless you to understand your won folly, and may that go for me as well.

Oh my God
We can't allow this to occur! Those damn, socialist Liberal Democrats, and ACORN to get away with this. How dare they do what we did to them in 2004. there has to be some type of law broken! like maybe Privacy licensing infringement. Help me out here. throw me a bone.
This should not be happening then Atty. General Gonzales, placed hand picked Judges to protect the Republican Ticket!
OMG. Is the Republican ticket of John McCain and Sara Palin, going to lose because the rest of the Country found out that the ticket is weak? No matter how much Fixed news and others like Amanda (narrow minded) Carpenter, try to spin it. Stay to tune too this Bat channel to find out

Acorn
..."House Minority Leader John Boehner's office shows that Albuquerque's ACORN branch has received $349,253 in federal tax dollars since 1998."...

Who controlled federal tax dollars from 1998 thru 2006? Republicans! This is an example of why liberalism is often looked at as evil and Republican actions and inactions are often looked at as stupid.

ACORN is Sen. Obama. He trained them, lawyered for them and funded them thru his campaign.

But there is more! Sen. Obama received almost as much from Freddie/Fannie in political contributions as Sen. Dodd.

ACORN and FREDDIE/FANNIE worked together with liberals like Sen. Obama to bully banks into giving out unqualified mortgages. This led to our economic crisis.

Sen. McCain cosponsored a bill to end these outrages years ago. The bill was defeated by liberals.

The Bush/Pelosi/Reid/Obama initial bailout would have given oodles of dollars to ACORN!

Sen. McCain and House Republicans slowed things down and at least got rid of the ACORN contribution. They also got rid of an attempt to force Union Bosses onto company boards.

Sen. Obama also worked with unrepentent terrorist William Ayres to funnel foundation contributions to ACORN.

By the way in 2001, Ayres stomped on our flag for a picture and wished he had done more as a terrorist! Yes, in 2001 when Sen. Obama was an adult politician.

Much to worry about
The argument that fraudulently registering voters isn't a problem because they aren't going to vote is so lame, I can't see how ACORN says it with a straight face. Its fraud, but its not really fraud!? "I shot the sheriff but I didn't shoot the deputy".

The other thing that is interesting is that ACORN and the Obama campaign use almost identical statements when responding to this issue. But they're not connected!

ACORN has received taxpayer
support since Carter in 1977. Multi-millions of dollars.

They are almost entirely grant-supported as no one *works* to generate any wealth.

They are also culpable in the subrpime mortgage crash as they extorted bank and financials through picketing, storming the doors, and threatening lawsuits based on the CRA's that demand (AND ARE STILL ON THE BOOKS AND IN FORCE) lenders make bad loans to bad creditors, up to 10% of their portforlios, or they are racists.

Until removed at the last minute, they were included in the $700 billion *bailout.*

O was a co-worker with them as they claim to be *community organizers,* trained people for them, gave Annenbverg Trust money to them, easily could have targeted some of his nearly $1 billion in earmarks for them, and donated $800,000 to them from his campaign funds.

O plans to steal the election in a way that poor Al Gore never conceived when he just wanted to recount 4 Dem. counties in FL.

Retired Geek
No doubt they are. They are involved in a lot of things and were right there when Freddie Mac/ Fannie Mae became the start of this meltdown. Purposely? Who knows?

Take care.

Rowly thanks

I will TiVo Greta tonight.

I have been reading the various ACORN websites today - ACORN has branches now many places in the world - I wonder if the US Taxpayer is 'footing' the bill?

Retired Geek
Greta is suppose to have something new about Ayers,ACORN ,etc. tonight.

Obama - ACORN and Communists

Author: Joelle Fishman,
Chair, Political Action Committee, Communist Party USA
First published 11/21/2006 16:58


“The Milwaukee YCL (Young Communist League) also mobilized the club for labor walks and also participated with a coalition to defeat the anti-gay marriage initiative.

Florida YCLers worked in Orlando and Jacksonville with ACORN.

YCLers in Hartford and New Haven worked with the Party District for Ned Lamont. The Chicago Club worked with the Party District on a series of labor walks, including for Tammy Duckworth.

“Our new Arkansas Study Group was a leading voice in the University of Arkansas campus coalition to get out the student vote.

They worked with the local Democrats and ACORN. New Jersey YCLers worked mainly with the Party District to re-elect Menendez. Last, DC YCLers going to school in Maryland worked through campus-based peace coalitions to elect a Democratic governor.”


Obama Appreciates ACORN

When watching the various investigations of ACORN by almost every state - remember Barack Obama and ACORN goes way back. ACORN = The Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now.

"I’ve been fighting alongside ACORN on issues you care about my entire career. Even before I was an elected official, when I ran Project Vote voter registration drive in Illinois, ACORN was smack dab in the middle of it, and we appreciate your work." — Barack Obama, Speech to ACORN, November 2007.

ACORN is a private corporation that refuses to release its financial statements, NOT a Non-profit, yet Barack Obama made multiple grants to ACORN while with the Woods Foundation.

Obama and ACORN Stealing Votes
ACORN invited Obama to help train its staff. Moreover, Obama eventually would sit on the Board of the Woods Fund of Chicago, which gave a number of sizable grants to ACORN.

In April 2007 The Nation reported, “Today Obama continues his organizing work largely through classes for future leaders identified by ACORN and the Centers for New Horizons on the south side [of Chicago].”

1) ACORN is the largest radical group in America, with 175,000 dues-paying member families, and more than 850 chapters in 70 US cities.

2) ACORN is implicated in numerous reports of fraudulent voter registration, vote-rigging, voter intimidation, and vote-for-pay scams during the 2004 election.

In September 2008 the Board of Elections in Cuyahoga County, Ohio accused ACORN's paid workers, who had been tasked with registering as many pro-Democrat voters as possible, of submitting fraudulent voter-registration cards.

According to the Board, ACORN workers had commonly turned in separate cards with duplicate names but different addresses or different birth dates. Other cards listed people living at an address that was not a residence.

Meanwhile, the U.S. Attorney's office in Michigan indicated that it might prosecute ACORN for similar voter-registration scams in that state.

Obama and ACORN partnering in 'Voter Fraud' 'Change' and 'Hope' for America?

Obama ACORN Trainer and gave $800,000

"ACORN is a grassroots political organization that grew out of George Wiley's National Welfare Rights Organization (NWRO), whose members in the late 1960s and early 70s invaded welfare offices across the U.S. -- often violently -- bullying social workers and loudly demanding every penny to which the law "entitled" them.

ACORN's mandate today includes all issues touching low-income and working-class people.

The organization runs schools where children are trained in class consciousness; it oversees a network of "boot camps" where street activists are trained; and it conducts operations that extort contributions from banks and other businesses under threat of trumped-up civil rights charges.

In the 2004 and 2006 election cycles, ACORN and its sister group Project Vote ran nationwide voter mobilization drives that were marred by allegations of fraudulent voter registration, vote-rigging, voter intimidation, and vote-for-pay scams.

Beginning in the mid-1980s, Obama worked with ACORN and Project Vote.

In 1995 Obama sued, on behalf of ACORN, for the implementation of the Motor Voter law in Illinois. (Jim Edgar, the Republican Governor of Illinois, opposed the law because he believed that allowing voters to register using only a postcard would breed widespread fraud.)

ACORN later invited Obama to help train its staff. Moreover, Obama eventually would sit on the Board of the Woods Fund of Chicago, which gave a number of sizable grants to ACORN.

In April 2007 The Nation reported, “Today Obama continues his organizing work largely through classes for future leaders identified by ACORN and the Centers for New Horizons on the south side [of Chicago].”

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/Articles/acorn5.html

charles
Actually I am from Eastern Pennsylvania, so it is all good.

I take it you didn't have an answer to what I said though did you?

Rowly
That does make one wonder.

In these elections, they turn out nearly 50-50.
The media is in the pocket of the democrats. Our news anchors wear Obama pins for crying out loud.
Editorials will only be printed if they are anti-McCain or pro-Obama.

Yet with all of media against them, the republicans seem to pull even. You said just think if it was the other way around, well, I think the country would be voting 70-75% republican. If only the average voter knew what the democratic party was about, they would be leaving in droves.

Christianlib you are too funny!
I’ve been having a very tough day and you have made it a whole lot brighter with your humor. Thank you. I laughed my azzzz off over gems like these:

“this is disingenous at best and a lie at worst.” How in the world do you know? I should just believe you – a lying lib - cuz you said so?

"now it is interesting to me that the GOP only looked at the democrat primary and not the republican primary". Maybe because ACORN is a tool of the left? or has Oblahma lawyered for GOP orgs too? NOT!!!

“the GOP has identified 10 that might be frauds” Out of 28 meat. Not out of millions. Nice try. Much like a few percent of the total vote can be used to project the winners of elections; why can’t we also project the number of fraudulent votes?

“obama's people called the guy off as soon as they heard about it” You mean as soon as they got caught don’t you?

” they've failed to come up with a single incident of any actual voter fraud committed by the dastardly "left-wing extremists." Maybe you should read the article again? Or are you gonna tell us that ACORN is a republican group?

“So, as it's now been revealed that John McCain himself was a keynote speaker at a 2006 ACORN rally (on immigration reform)” Another oft-repeated lib talking point. It was not exclusively an ACORN rally. However nice touch bringing up immigration in an effort to annoy McCain supporters. You guys never stop scamming do you?

“But the head of an Albuquerque community organization that registers voters charges the Republicans' claims are overblown” LOL- another community organizer is your proof the charges against other community organizers are false? You really are a moron.

PS Glad to see your buttboys Ralph and Jeffrey are here. Hate to see you make a fool out of yourself all alone.

Charles
Hey, what's wrong with Mickey Mouse?

I mean, c'mon guys, Mickey has been in the White House for the past EIGHT years.

CKHustler
I wonder what the Democrats would do if the issue was reversed? Think they would be so nonchalant?

What do you think they would say if the media did advertising for them on every show. Especially CNN.

If the Hollywood crowd were almost totally in the tank for McCain? Late shows shilling for him? Think they'd like that?

Last of all,if ACORN was doing their present dirty work for McCain? Bet they wouldn't say a discouraging word. What do you think?

Right is its own defense
Hey how do you guys type with that straight-jacket on. It always puzzles me.

Anyway, weren't you the same guys who said the same thing 4 years and 8 years and 12 years ago? Man, regurgitated stuff must be awfully bitter.

Here's an old English proverb to cheer you up in that dismal place where you find yourself:

"Great oaks from little ACORNS grow"

28 of 92
It seems liberals will stop at nothing to defend their voter fraud. Im especially disappointed in christianlib's showing on the voter fraud front. It is obvious that lots of voter fraud has occurred, but he will continue to deny since it was on the democrat side. I thought you were a self thinker and didn't just defend party lines because the head brass says so.

Nearly 1/3 of the investigated voter registration is found to be probable for voter fraud. In your own democratic election!!! Just think what it will be in the general election. Democrats always take it easy when its their own kin, but once its mono y mono with republicans the tin foil is on the knuckles. They take off the gloves and whip out the switchblade.

I find it funny that liberals continue to defend voter fraud. Its in the open, you should just condemn it before you go down with it.

Oh Jeffwey: Gave you a great opportunity

to demonstrate your genius.. Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha

Got any of those answers to my questions yet?


So MUCH to say, but can't back it up with FACTS?

Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha HaHa Ha Ha Ha Ha

Ooops, sorry. Is it nap time now?





Proofing copy
Folks, I agree with the sentiments being expressed, here, most of them, amen.

But will this lady please have somebody final proof her copy?

It's embarrassing to our side to have ungrammatical sentences in our articles.

what would our forefathers think???
i believe ACORN has them all voting for Obama ...

charles
Why would acorn register the same people to vote 72 times. Redundant registrations just result in one registered voter. Your charge against ACORN might be more credible if it made sense.

And what would be the point of hiring prisoners to register voters? They can't get canvass neighborhoods, and they can't show up to vote.

ACORN is FAR worse than you think......

ACORN is at the root of the financial crisis.
And,
ACORN is trying to ensure Socialist victory through voter fraud.

Here are some quotes from an eye-opening article that everyone
should read and share before the election:

“Today ACORN is involved in a wide array of activities, including
housing, voting rights, illegal immigration and other issues.”

“It is perhaps the largest radical group in the U.S. and has been cited
for widespread criminal activity on many fronts.”

ACORN's voter rights tactics follow the Cloward-Piven Strategy:

1. Register as many Democrat voters as possible, legal or otherwise,
and help them vote multiple times if possible.

2. Overwhelm the system with fraudulent registrations using multiple
entries of the same name, names of deceased, random names from the
phone book, even contrived names.

3. Make the system difficult to police by lobbying for minimal
identification standards.


By advocating massive, no-holds-barred voter registration campaigns, they
sought a Democratic administration in Washington, D.C. that would
re-distribute the nation's wealth and lead to a totalitarian socialist state.”


http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/09/barack_obama_and_the _strategy.html

Read it, NOW

McCain Praised ACORN


Did you see the video of John McCain at the ACORN sponsored rally in 2006, where he commends the organization's leadership?

McCain is such a L-O-S-E-R. He brings up Obama's ties to ACORN, Bill Ayers, etc., just to get Americans attention away from the real issues like the economy, our security, etc.

See the MSNBC story with McCain speaking at the rally where he takes the podium about 3:30 into the piece. You can fast forward the video.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/#27188343

It's hilarious
to watch conservatives on the ropes and their desperate ploys to get attention for themselves. It is amazing how far they can be distracted by innuendo! I'm sure I'll never understand the conservative mind but it sure is a fascinating organ!

I see dead people ...
I hear that with so many dead people voting this year, the Whigs, Federalists, and Bull Moosers might have a shot at winning some seats in Congress. I think McCain's been egregiously pandering to the dead Progressive vote by bringing up Teddy Roosevelt all the time. Tsk. Tsk.

Blind or dumb?
You heard it here first, from Ralph. If we don't allow people to vote illegally, we're suppressing voters. Hey, Ralph, maybe you should reconsider that quote you have from over a year ago about not finding any voter fraud (you know, before ACORN started registering people for this year's election). How about re-reading Amanda's article, where she offers COLD HARD PROOF that fraud is occurring. Please grab ahold of your head firmly with two hands and pull it out of your hind quarters, then pay attention to the facts.

Cry Wolf ... again and again
Once again the Conservatives roll out the Bogeyman of "VOTER fRAUD".

Why don't Amanda and the other scare-mongerers tell the WHOLE truth for a change?

"Five years after the Bush administration began a crackdown on voter fraud, the Justice Department has turned up virtually no evidence of any organized effort to skew federal elections, according to court records and interviews."

April 12, 2007, The New York Times

and if this is not enough then:

Using various tactics -- including media smears, bogus lawsuits, restrictive new voting laws and policies, and flimsy prosecutions -- Republican operatives, election officials, and the GOP-controlled Justice Department have limited voting access and gone after voter-registration groups such as ACORN. Which should come as no surprise: In building support for initiatives raising the minimum wage and kindred ballot measures, ACORN has registered, in partnership with Project Vote, 1.6 million largely Democratic-leaning voters since 2004. All told, non-profit groups registered over three million new voters in 2004, about the same time that Republican and Justice Department efforts to publicize "voter fraud" and limit voting access became more widespread. And attacking ACORN has been a central element of a systematic GOP disenfranchisement agenda to undermine Democratic prospects before each Election Day.

April 1, 2008 American Prospect.

The real issue is going to be VOTER SUPPRESSION (by Republicans)

Lies And Lying
It is impossible to reason with the unreasonable. Liars willl lie,then lie about lying. If you call them on it,they tell a new lie.

Liberals are all liars. They lie to us,but worst of all,they lie to themselves. Otherwise,how could they support a conniving liar like Barack Hussein Obama?

Scare Tactic
From David Iglesias, former U.S. Attorney in NM (also a Republican, or maybe former Republican now):

"I'm astounded that this issue is being trotted out again," Iglesias told TPMmuckraker. "Based on what I saw in 2004 and 2006, it's a scare tactic." In 2006, Iglesias was fired as U.S. attorney thanks partly to his reluctance to pursue voter-fraud cases as aggressively as DOJ wanted -- one of several U.S. attorneys fired for inappropriate political reasons, according to a recently released report by DOJ's Office of the Inspector General.

Iglesias, who has been the most outspoken of the fired U.S. attorneys, went on to say that the FBI's investigation seemed designed to inappropriately create a "boogeyman" out of voter fraud.


Forget Spartacus
-I- am Joe the Plumber!

From the AP story:
"Republicans released details for 10 of those votes. The registration cards that were filled out had no social security numbers, drivers license numbers or birthdates for the voters.

Pat Rogers, an attorney who advises the state GOP, said they plan to turn the suspect ballots over to the state attorney general's office and the Bernalillo County district attorney."


Wow, no SS#, drivers license number, or birthdate. Sounds like some people were just stupid in filling out their card. Still no voting fraud has been proven in this case.

Not surprised--
Unfortunately, some members of our family lived in NM for a while. While we knew many good people there, it was clear to us that it was rapidly becoming a third world state.. The liberal idiots at that time were making certain that their agenda was in progress.
Being a hard core conservative it gives me great pleasure now days to say "He#l no" to those so called charities that want donations for various areas that did not exist just a few years ago. Open borders help create this mess.

To the libs out there-
For all you liberals that want ACORN to be so very innocent - you really don't get it.

Well over a dozen states being investigated by the FBI with daily updates showing more and more cases of outright voter registration fraud - which then can easily translate to VOTE fraud. You think all of this is a coincidence? Look at the footage of those admitting to being coerced and influenced to register dozens and dozens of times? This gorilla in the room is becoming King Kong.

Just like Obama's track record and alliances - PATTERNS mean SOMETHING. And that 'something' begins to stink worse as the days go by.

Finally - regarding 'Joe the Plumber'. Hey, there are millions of Joe the Plumbers, Joe the Electricians, Joe the Contractors, etc.. and I have known lots of them. The PRINICPLE of what 'Joe' states IS the issue, that issue is Wealth Redistribution.

And..Americans are smart enough to know the difference. To be able to make enough money, achieve success and be able to someday buy a business is an American Dream. That has never - and will never - change.


Jeffwey: Here's your chance!


Please explain how the right wing are hatemongers. And "just because" or "they disagree with me" aren't reasons.

Please explain how concern over voter fraud is an "obsession."

Please explain why this supposed obsession with ACORN is a marvelous distraction from actually getting McCain elected.

Please explain how and why this has anything what-so-ever to do with McCain being elected.

Please explain how..."Hence the selection of Sarah Palin, silly "guilty by association" smears and this ACORN obsession."

Please explain how "rightwing gets caught up in its paranoiac obsessions."


Please explain how this article is misleading in nature.

If YOU say (lol) Ms. Carpenter is guilty of journalistic fraud, please explain how the left wing MSM ISN'T guilty of journalistic fraud.

How about a little "compare and contrast?" You know what that is, don't you? And you can do it, can't you?

We'll give you a while to go back to "Obama Headquarters" to get the answers. And, PLEASE, take ALL THE TIME you need.




This begs the question
Did Obama win the primaries or did Hillary lose to ACORN voter fraud?

Given the misleading nature
of this article, I'd say Ms. Carpenter is guilty of journalistic fraud LOL. Again, let the right wing be distracted by fake issues.....makes it easier for the Dems to regain control of government! Go Dems!

It should be noted
The AP is not reporting that any fraud has actually been discovered. They are reporting that the Republican party in New Mexico claims they have discovered fraud. This would be the same New Mexico Republican party that got republican US Attorney General Iglesius fired because he did not find their claims of fraud compelling.

One of the interesting side results of the Joe the Plumber story is that it turns out that his name is misspelled by one letter on his registration form. So when he voted in the primaries, by the standard being used here, he was guilty of voter fraud.

Even more ironic, the one success to the Republicans have had in pushing voter suppression this fall (they lost in Montana when it turned out they were trying to remove the right to vote from a WWII veteran and also from a soldier being shipped off to Kuwait) is an attempt in Ohio to get 200,000 potential voters off the record for having registrations that don't match state documents. Of course Joe the Plumbers records don't match state records because his name is misspelled.

So Joe, the republican poster boy, could turn out to be Joe, the disenfranchised voter by the republicans.

oh yea i forgot the link
here is the acutal ap story.


The Republican Party of New Mexico alleges 28 people voted fraudulently in one Albuquerque state House district in the June Democratic primary.

Party representatives said at a news conference Thursday they found the suspect voters in a review of 92 newly registered voters in House District 13.

"We really have a bombshell - evidence of voter fraud in the 2008 primary in Albuquerque," said State Rep. Justine Fox-Young, an Albuquerque Republican. "We are presenting undeniable proof that there was voter fraud in the June election."

But the head of an Albuquerque community organization that registers voters charges the Republicans' claims are overblown and they are trying to scare people ahead of the Nov. 4 election.

The Republicans released voter registration cards for 10 of the suspect voters, saying they showed missing or inaccurate Social Security numbers or birth dates.

More pathetic lies
from the right wing hatemongers. This obsession with ACORN is a marvelous distraction from actually getting McCain elected LOL. I thought McCain was running for president in order to WIN. Evidently, his campaign was more of a group hug for the GOP. Not seriously interested in winning. Hence the selection of Sarah Palin, silly "guilty by association" smears and this ACORN obsession.

I guess we normal people should be glad the rightwing gets caught up in its paranoiac obsessions. Makes it easier for Dems to win elections!

where is the fraud
So where's the "voter fraud"?

Fox "News" and its Rupert Murdoch-owned print brethren, the New York Post, continue to bang the GOP's phony ACORN "voter fraud" drum, but as far as I can tell, they've failed to come up with a single incident of any actual voter fraud committed by the dastardly "left-wing extremists."

Yes, Ann Coulter has committed felony voter fraud, but neither of the Murdoch outfits has yet to note that point, even while they go wall-to-wall with misleading reports claiming that ACORN is committing massive "voter fraud" on behalf of the Democrats.

So, as it's now been revealed that John McCain himself was a keynote speaker at a 2006 ACORN rally (on immigration reform) in Florida, where he declared to the ACORN volunteers in the room that they are "What makes America special," nobody seems to be able to show me an instance of any actual voter fraud committed by ACORN, or even anybody who registered via ACORN, for that matter.

Those who wish to believe in the hoax, however, attempt to link to article after article about allegations of voter fraud carried out by ACORN. And yet, the articles themselves --- if one bothers to actually read them --- reveal that either 1) They describe allegations and investigations brought by Republican agents, with little or no evidence of any wrong doing, and certainly no "voter fraud," 2) Where voter registration fraud has occurred it has been by rogue ACORN employees, originally reported to authorities by ACORN themselves (who are the actual victims of any such fraud by their employees), or 3) Smoke and mirrors are used to cloud the fact that not a single fraudulent vote has actually been cast by anyone.


beowulfe
so i click on your link and the article says obama's people called the guy off as soon as they heard about it, but more importantly, under michigan law, you are allowed to vote as soon as you are released, so the guy was trying to identify those who would be released in time to register.

More lies
The ACORN revelations are just a small example of more of Obama's lies. This comes from a man who has associated with terrorists, a racist, hate-filled minister and might not have even been born in the United States. Should we be surprised at the leftist illuminati rhetoric he has been espousing?

amanda
this is disingenous at best and a lie at worst.

you seem to have left out the words "alledged and believe"

now it is interesting to me that the GOP only looked at the democrat primary and not the republican primary.

her is the actual statement from AP, notice they only submitted 10 names even though they claimed 28.

so out of millions of votes cast in new mexico the GOP has identified 10 that might be frauds.

please.

Fund on ACORN
John Fund Has A book on 'STEALING THE ELECTION". He has been telling AMERICA about this since 2000!! Don't act surprised now. Where were all you Folks back then. The Cow has been out of the barn a long time!! To late to close the door now.

Another day another voter fraud
ACORN needs to be shut down. Our democracy is being destroyed by the teachings of Saul Alinkski. I wouldn't be surprised if we have a taxpayer revolt.

Rocko
I agree with most of your post. The left has been patiently chipping away at our freedoms for many years. They are down to the last most important part. The transfer.


Many people were in on this thing from the beginning and most of them not elected. They used elected officials to further their quest,including congress and the president.

I wonder if President Bush had not taken part in trying to staunch this meltdown,and things would have gotten much worse than they are now,what would have happened. It is a sorry mess,as it is.

Years from now looking back, George Bush will probably be blamed if we do have a totalitarian country.Much of it will have happened on his watch. He will,in truth,not be the real villian.


Update on Obama's THEFT!
Obama supporter FORCES mentally challenged man to vote for Obama even though he demanded the aide select his choice of McCain:

http://www.walb.com/Global/story.asp?s=9177991

Obama supporters attempt to register prison inmates:

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/10/16/obama-organizer-ta rgets-the-big-house/

Oh, and just an update from the 2000 election: According to the US Commission on Civil Rights, there was NO Republican conspiracy to steal the election:

http://www.usccr.gov/pubs/vote2000/report/exesum.htm

Part of the Plan
Coming soon to your favorite country - Communism. ACORN is part of the overriding strategy of the communist party to remove the democratic system in the USA and replace it with a communist regime. This movement started as far back as the 1920's. Why do you think that McCarthy was demonized by the media? Because he was on to something.

Obama is at the spearhead of this movement. Once Obama is in office, he can move to socialize everything and make the entire economy dependent on government. Once we are all totally dependent on government, our lives will be ruled by the government.

The saddest part of it is that our supposed "conservative" president has done more to "socialize" this country than any president before him.

And illegals can vote too!
Trust me, this is only the tip of the iceberg. Here in New Mexico, we have been giving driver's licenses to illegals for years. And what is required to register to vote in this state? You got it! A driver's license and a copy of a utility bill to prove residence in the state - not citizenship, mind you, only residence.

Voter Fraud
With the mainstream media ignoring any news that is anti-Democrat,nothing will be done about this fradulent election. No Republican ever believe it was a fair one.

If Obama does win,and with a 'government-run' media and fraudlent elections,how far are we from a totalitarian state?

The One-Third Measure
We were told that possible fradulent voter registration was a mere 5% by the defenders of ACORN.

But we have Ohio which is looking at 200,000 out of 660,000 voter registrations that are suspicious.

And now we find in one sample of actual votes, one-third were fradulent. I want to see a larger sampling from these primaries examined but I bet we will find the One-Third measure will hold true where ever ACORN was busy.

The Republic is in danger and its an internal threat that must be halted - voter fraud.
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