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Friday, July 11, 2008
Amanda Carpenter :: Townhall.com Columnist
Shady Mortgages Plague Obama-Dodd Ticket
by Amanda Carpenter
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What do Barack Obama (D.-Ill.) and Chris Dodd (D.-Conn.) have in common besides being U.S. senators? Both received discount, backdoor mortgages because of their elite titles and may be on a presidential ticket together.

Dodd told reporters Obama’s presidential campaign approached him for “vetting papers” ---news sure to be a blow to their fellow senator and former Democratic presidential contender Hillary Clinton (D.-N.Y.).

Howard Wolfson, former Clinton chief strategist, said Obama was not making similar inquiries to Clinton “as far as I know” on Fox News Thursday, a day after Obama “forgot” to ask his donors to help Clinton pay off her multi-million dollars’ worth of campaign debts at a joint event with her.

Obama’s decision to approach Dodd presents some difficulties aside from the fallout Obama could face from passionate Clinton supporters who would like to see her become his vice president.

Rumors of an Obama-Dodd ticket highlight a recent controversy with Obama’s former vice presidential “vetter” and Fannie Mae Chairman Jim Johnson. Johnson was ousted from Obama’s inner circle after it was discovered he received a discount mortgage from Countrywide. Shortly after Johnson lost his slot, Portfolio magazine found Dodd also got a sweetheart mortgage from Countrywide raising questions about his bill to extend up to $300 billion on tax dollars to purchase failed mortgages from the housing industry. If passed into law, Countrywide would be the primary beneficiary of the money as the company is the largest mortgage provider in the nation

On July 2, Obama acknowledged he too received a discount home loan, known as a “super, super jumbo” from the bank Northern Trust for $1.32 million. The Washington Post reported the loan, obtained in 2005, financed a new Obama compound that came with “six bedrooms, four fireplaces, a four-car garage and 5 1/2 baths, including a double steam shower and a marble powder room” as well “a wine cellar, a music room, a library, a solarium, beveled glass doors and a granite-floored kitchen.”

The discounted rate Obama received from Northern Trust was worth approximately $300 a month. Judicial Watch, a conservative leaning legal advocacy group, has since filed complaints about Obama’s mortgage loan with the Federal Elections Commission and the Senate Ethics Committee.

"It appears that due to his position as a United States Senator, Barack Obama received improper special treatment from Northern Trust resulting in an illicit 'gift' which has a value of almost $125,000 in interest savings," Judicial Watch wrote in its U.S. Senate ethics complaint.

Obama’s home finances are also closely connected to his longtime friend and Chicago insider Antonin “Tony” Rezko--- a man Clinton called a “slumlord” during a Democratic presidential debate. The same day Obama bought his new home, Rezko’s wife, Rita, purchased land next to Obama’s home for $625,000. She later sold part of it to the Obamas for $104,500, which had the effect of making their yard bigger.

A federal jury found Rezko guilty on 16 of 24 charges of corruption for extortion, mail and wire fraud, bribery and money laundering last month.

Lingering questions about Obama’s personal finances haven’t caused any severe damage to his polling, but it does appear to be causing Dodd problems. A July 1 Quinnipiac survey found Dodd’s approval ratings sunk nine points since last year from 60 percent to 51 percent, his lowest ever approval ratings. The survey also found 62 percent had read or heard “a lot” or “some” about the special treatment Dodd received from Countrywide on his mortgages. 59 percent said “the matter deserves more investigation.”

"Sen. Christopher Dodd's job approval is lukewarm at best, especially given his 28 years of service in the U.S. Senate, the longest in Connecticut history," said Quinnipiac University Poll Director Douglas Schwartz, Ph.D. "This probably is a combination of his unsuccessful presidential bid and the mortgage scandal."

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Obama-Dodd sounds great to me

Obama-bots for Obama-Dodd!

That would be "good judgment", Barack. Snub Hillary, her 12 million supporters, and choose a white man with a mortgage scandal to be your VP.

McCain, with all his warts and campaign stumbles, will win by a landslide.

Since Dodd
is the only VP candidate who has openly admitted he is being vetted, one can only assume this "leak" is deliberate to test the waters and get a feel for public opinion.

They are all crooks. It is just that
you never here about the Commicrat bribes and cheating, other than a small article on a back page without the obigatory (D). By contrast when a Republican so much as makes a field trip on a coporate jet it is front page news in War Font headlines and it stays in the news for months.

"28 years of service"
I choke when I see the word "service" in the same sentence with "Dodd."

I lived in Connecticut and watched this guy for years. It's about him. It always has been. Well, you say, that's true for most politicians. Maybe, but Dodd takes it to another level.

As a result of this scandal, Dodd will win reelection in 2010 by maybe 15 points instead of twenty. God help us all.

$125,000?
I hadn't realized that Obama could be had so cheaply.

The Rest of the Story
"The discounted rate Obama received from Northern Trust was worth approximately $300 a month."

Not mentioned was that that's out of about $12,000 monthly mortgage payment (principle, interest, taxes); 2.5%. Also not mentioned was the fact that he actually had enough money in the bank to pay cash. If you were looking for a mortgage under those conditions, don't you think you could get favorable rates? Heck, I refinanced at about that time, and got a 4.25% fixed rate loan. Saving $300 a month is a pittance.

Mr. Obama also benefited
from having additional property purchased and added to his land parcel through the aid of recently convicted Tony Revko--corruption convictee of the month in Chicago.

We should all get such sweet deals wuth our own gov't money, your taxes and mine.

*Distracted*?
Must be the Dem. word of the entire campaign.

Heaven forefend anyone should be *distracted* from the paramount focus of getting Obamanation elected from a history of non-achievement and experience into a job that requries managing the most powerful political office that has ever existed.

Hey
This and more could be yours. Just take up "community organizing".

John, Bob Munck, Vic
John - RIGHT. It will be a landslide. The modern Democrat Party has not a clue what an ordinary American believes. They really do believe that the regular people "cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them", and what conservatives have known for years is becoming a common theme of conversation. When you talk to old fashioned common sense Democrat from the heartland, where I grew up, in a family of Truman/Kennedy Democrats (who largely hate George Bush), you find that many do see the Democrat leadership as elite, out of touch snobs.

BM - WRONG, again. You have some stupid arguments. Why does a guy with a $12,000 monthly paymeny take a $300 discount? And if he had the money in the bank, then why did he take a discounted loan. To you, 125 grand may be chump change, but it isn't to most people. Good luck convincing ordinary people to vote for Obama.

Vic - RIGHT, again. And many Leftists whine about how the media is right wing. How many main stream media stories were produced that gave creedence to the Swift Boat Veterans in the 2004 campaign? Zero. And whenever somebody tells me that "Climate Change" is not a political issue, I ask them to name a few conservative thinkers who believe that it is man-made and that it will lead to catastrophe. Of course it's political, not scientific. But you'll see virtually no questioning of the issue in the MSM. They are frauds and it is becoming obvious to more people than they think.

Shady Mortgages plaque BO...........
Well it stands to reason that trash follows trash everywhere it goes. It is the Democrats that want these big underhanded slick talkers of home loans saved.
Name one conservative Republican or liberal in that fact. Who would sign to take a varib-loan, at so low below prime it cries out bogus, and then get shot in the face with a massive payment at the higher interest rate. Come on now. I've refinance my home twice all at or just below prime, and shortened the length of the mortgage. It is mine in 5 years at 4.25% fixed.

Obama and Rezko

"Just coming to light are the sleazy facts about Obama's relationship and shady real estate deal with Antoin "Tony" Rezko, the Arab-American fundraiser and immigrant from Syria.

Rezko has been a friend of Obama's since his days at Harvard, and Rezko was recently indicted for corruption, found guilty and sent to prison.

We ignore the stench of corruption that surrounds Obama at our peril.

As citizens, we must ask ourselves whether Obama has the character and judgment to be our president. Unfortunately, the answer is no."

Frances Rice
Black Female Conservative
Retired Army Colonel
Gifted Lawyer


Dodd and Preferential Mortgage
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The chairman of the powerful Senate Banking Committee on Friday denied a media report that he received preferential mortgage terms from Countrywide Financial Corp, a key player in the U.S. housing crisis.

Conde Nast's Portfolio.com Web site reported on Thursday that Sen. Christopher Dodd, a Democrat from Connecticut who is trying to push a housing rescue bill through the Senate, could save $75,000 over the life of the loans he obtained from Countrywide for two homes.
Dodd denied receiving any special favors from Countrywide.

Obama on Grove Parc
By Binyamin Appelbaum
Globe Staff / June 27, 2008
CHICAGO - The squat brick buildings of Grove Parc Plaza, in a dense neighborhood that Barack Obama represented for eight years as a state senator, hold 504 apartments subsidized by the federal government for people who can't afford to live anywhere else.

But it's not safe to live here.

About 99 of the units are vacant, many rendered uninhabitable by unfixed problems, such as collapsed roofs and fire damage. Mice scamper through the halls. Battered mailboxes hang open. Sewage backs up into kitchen sinks. In 2006, federal inspectors graded the condition of the complex an 11 on a 100-point scale - a score so bad the buildings now face demolition.

As a state senator, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee coauthored an Illinois law creating a new pool of tax credits for developers. As a US senator, he pressed for increased federal subsidies. And as a presidential candidate, he has campaigned on a promise to create an Affordable Housing Trust Fund that could give developers an estimated $500 million a year.

did you know that
when he was a kid chris dodd went to Georgetown Prep

dodd
i didn't know that the sorry lowdown
rascal went to Georgetown Prep , but i did know
that he has been castro's man on capital hill ,
and that he is lower than seaweed ,which is on the bottom of the ocean.
it is really close between him and biden as
to who is the most pompous person that ever
walked on terra firma.

Now this is news
you will never hear from the fine investigative journalists of the MSM!

Obama's new ad
The script:

MAN: Oh man — he's starting already ...

WOMAN: What now, honey?

MAN: John McCain. He's got new ads attacking Barack Obama on taxes.

WOMAN: Well, that's not new. Bush, McCain, Karl Rove — that's how those guys work.

MAN: Oh yeah, but this is shameful. He's just makin' stuff up.

WOMAN: Yeah?

MAN: But get this. Independent sources are putting McCain in his place. I went to FactCheck.org. They said, quote, "It's not true."

WOMAN: Huh.

MAN: And look what Time says. Quote, "It makes sense that McCain is returning to the old playbook. But that doesn't mean he can just make up his own facts." End Quote.

WOMAN: Yowza! So what's the truth?

MAN: Obama's plan cuts taxes on the middle class — and won't raise taxes on anybody making less than two hundred fifty thousand a year. But McCain wants billions in new corporate tax breaks ... and no way to pay for it.

WOMAN: Hmm. Sounds like George Bush all over again.

MAN: Guess that's why they say: John McCain — McSame as Bush!

WOMAN: Uh-huh.

Voiceover: On taxes, get the facts. Visit BarackObama.com.

Obama: I'm Barack Obama, candidate for president, and I approve this message.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0708/Obama_radio_McC ain_makin_stuff_up.html

Obama/Dodd
So much graft - so little outrage.
It is unbelievable -
from Rev. Wright. to Fr. Phleger, to Ayers and associates to Rezsko and associates, to Ferracon, to the Acorn Group, add a mightly slim resume with no foreign policy experience - none what so ever, stick in some flip flopping, then pure socialism+ in detail, to no drilling, no nuclear plants, to being ashamed that his fellow country men do not speak foreign languages - of course English can not be the official language here in the USA, to Michelle Obama, and still no outrage. Maybe Republicans are waiting until he is the official nominee before connecting all the dots.

GT JOHNS
I am a new person to this webb site but it is obvious that you are only here to post your agenda, which as a black man quit posting stupidity for I dont neeed your help. If you want to paste and copy please dont try to represent the black man and our cause with that crap/

Rosemary,
surely you jest, the Republicans getting a backbone? They aren't called the stupid party for nothing. McCain is going to speak at LaRaza
next week, in our faces, and there's not one
Republican that will stand up and say don't go.
Same here, they are getting so much handed to them on a silver platter and they just stand there wondering: What shall I do? What shall I dooooo? Mommy, Mommy tell me what to doooo????
Oh dear oh dear o dear.

what
who cares

Grover91506 5:50 PM EST
"BM - WRONG, again. You have some stupid arguments. Why does a guy with a $12,000 monthly paymeny take a $300 discount? And if he had the money in the bank, then why did he take a discounted loan."

Are you kidding? OBVIOUSLY because he can make more than 5.625% by investing the money. Also, the interest on the first $1 million is TAX DEDUCTABLE. If he put his cash into the house, he'd lose both the extra 5-7% or so that it would bring in from the stock market and that sizable deduction.

As for "taking a $300 discount," I doubt that it was ever offered as such. He undoubtedly applied for the loan and was quoted that rate. He should have bargained it down.

Wow, I hope you have a parent or spouse who handles your finances.

charles writes: "what, who cares"

YOU should, you fool!

And can you just imagine the OUTRAGE had this been a Republican.

You idiots would be ALL OVER this like white on rice!


Bob Mook: Oh great. Never mind that

it was ILLEGAL what he did...

You are such a fool!

Bob Munck: Like all limited lunatic
libs, is delusional...

And the definition of "delusional" is...

"a fixed false belief that is resistant to reason or confrontation with actual fact."

Get that part... RESISTANT to..

1. Reason
2. Actual fact

What a pathetic way to go through life!

Hey B. Mook: Get this ...............
"Rangel Under Scrutiny for N.Y. Apartments"

http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/rangel_apartments/2008/0 7/11/112020.html

"Rep. Charles Rangel, D-N.Y., is facing tough questions about four rent-stabilized apartments he is leasing in New York’s Lenox Terrace — a luxury development in Harlem — at rates that are far below market value.

"Rangel, a 37-year congressman who also chairs the powerful House Ways and Means Committee, uses one of the apartments that overlooks Upper Manhattan as an office, according to a report in The New York Times."

Just no end to these demo-cretin shady deals, is there B Mook?????


Teaparty
Where did you see that McCain was going to talk to La Raza? I must have missed that. Could you please list a source? I'm afraid if he was to do that it would be political suicide as 65% of the population is against amnesty.

Anne
Rangel has conceded that he 'might' stop using the fourth apartment as an office. Big concession from that hair ball.

Meg
Don't insult us w/trashy(eg #6 in your list)slander! The guy responsible for this rumor has a "27 year criminal record with a specialty in crimes involving deceit." I discovered this in 5 minutes with Google.

Do your homework before posting garbage, please!

I say this as a person terrified of an Obama presidency!!

Obama-Dodd
has a hilarious ring to it though, don't you think?

eastlake joe
yes, McCain is going to LaRaza. As Laura Ingraham said this morning, "It's impossible to out-pander a liberal" with people wedded to their victimization. She talked about the pros/cons of McCain going there w/Linda Chavez tonight when she hosted O'Reilly.

Anne 11:16 PM EST
"it was ILLEGAL what he did..."

How was it illegal? What law did Obama break? Were the 4.25% loans that Butcher and I got also illegal? They were at a much lower rate than Obama's.

Anne, do you ever have any actual arguments against the things you comment on? I don't think I've seen a single one of your comments that had any substance; just name-calling. It makes you look painfully shallow.

Nixon Looks Like An Angel
Richard Nixon looks like an angel compared to these two, infact compared to most of the Democrats in Congress right now.

Yep, times have changed. I think I've had enough change and want to get back to sanity and integrity in Washington, D.C. Nixon was spying on his opponent; what do you think this group is doing? Much worse! McCarthy must be spinning in his grave over this bunch ruling Congress! This Congress has the lowest approval rating ever recorded in American history; they actively work towards the destruction of our economy and the American Way of Life we all enjoy. Think about it: Who is preventing us from accessing OUR OWN oil? I was told America belongs to US, the people.

Retired Geek:
"About 99 of the units are vacant, many rendered uninhabitable by unfixed problems, such as collapsed roofs and fire damage. Mice scamper through the halls. Battered mailboxes hang open. Sewage backs up into kitchen sinks. In 2006, federal inspectors graded the condition of the complex an 11 on a 100-point scale - a score so bad the buildings now face demolition."

Isn't it amazing that the all-compassionate, all-knowing Obama could walk away, knowing people were left with nothing but shambles? Obama lives in a wonderful home, thanks to shady negotiations with shady people.

Prepare for the whole country to go to hell in a handbasket IF Obama is elected. They say the surest way for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing. I hope not too many conservatives, independents and moderates "do nothing" and stay home on November 3rd.

Gift to Rezko
When the story regarding Obama's loans broke, the facts regarding his dealings with Rezko were rehashed. In reviewing the facts that were reported at one time by the Washington Post, I realized that Obama made a gift to Rezko. And I think voters are entitled to understand what's going on there.

Specifically, Obama paid Rezko (or his wife) $104,500 for a parcel of land appraised at $40,500. For federal gift tax purposes, that's a taxable gift, which must be reported on a federal gift tax return. I seriously doubt that any gift tax is due, but the transaction must be reported. Donative intent is not required. All that's required is transferring more value than you receive. There's a $60,000 difference in value. Sure, some of it can be offset by annual exclusions for Obama and his wife (if she gift-splits with him). All the same, what is going on in that transaction? The donee is a convicted felon, and within the past two or three years a presidential candidate made a significant gift to him.

The press should be revisiting these matters and putting the question to Obama. The tax laws will be laws that he'll be charged as president to enforce.

huge house
what hypocrisy - we eat to much, use to much energy and are stupid unenlightened Americans. Yet obama's huge house will consume more energy than most "average" Americans. He must agree with Gore on this issue - do as i say not as i do...

SAM 1:12 AM EST
"Specifically, Obama paid Rezko (or his wife) $104,500 for a parcel of land appraised at $40,500."

According to the Cook County tax assessor's office, assesments were running at about 25-45% of real value back then. It's often the case that communities will assess property at some fraction of its market price and adjust that fraction rather than adjust the tax rate. The effect, of course, is the same. Cook County in particular has been raising their percentage of real value drastically in the last few years. It used to be that Illinois state law REQUIRED that property be assessed at 33.3% of its real value; I don't know if that's still true.

Rosemary #20
I sincerely hope you are correct. Thank you.
The gutless media ignores the obvious.
PAX.

Don't worry...
...the MSM will do their best to keep as quiet as possible on this one too.

easy response
mccain made the response to anything like this soooo easy. JUST REMEMBER KEATING.

Bob Munck: OF course I have. I don't
post things UNLES I DO have a solid argument.

The PROBLEM IS, as always with limited lunatic
libs, you just don't get it because you are delusional...

And the definition of "delusional" is...

"a fixed false belief that is resistant to reason or confrontation with actual fact."

Get that part... RESISTANT to..

1. Reason
2. Actual fact

Michael Savage is right.... liberalism is a mental disorder....

Now run along back to kos or huff-puff where your other limited friends are. You'll do MUCH better there....

Bye! :-)

Kiddy Lib: Nice try... but you wouldn't

know good judgement if it smacked you right square in the middle of your forehead....


But then, a short time ago, someone reminded me that most likely you wouldn't even KNOW THAT you'd been smacked right square in the middle of the forehead.


King Lib
Does that mean its ok for Obambi to do it as long as he can get by with it? It seems to me libs go after a Repug for tapping a foot in a stall or any impropriety, but want their side to get a pass on being ousted for the crooks that they are. Face it, for the most part they are a bunch of crooks which explains why they would spend millions (and a lot of times their own money) to get a six figure salary. Obambi is no better.
5 Stars Amanda.

If you want to support people who are NOT proud of their country:
http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/
http://video.yahoo.com/watch/688061/3111928/

If you want to support people who ARE proud of their country:
http://www.nationalblackrepublicans.com/index.cfm?fuseacti on=home.main&tp_preview=true&x=7959345

http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.htm l
Free Ramos and Compean

GTJOHNS
Voiceover: On taxes, get the facts. Visit BarackObama.com.

No thanks, we already know what “change” means. How’s that old saying go? The more things change the more they stay the same.
If you really believe Obambi won’t tax the middle class you are a fool. All of the pick pockets in Washington know that’s where the bulk of the money is.
As for tax breaks for companies, you do realize they along with investors they create the jobs in this country right? On second thought, you probably don’t.


If you want to support people who are NOT proud of their country:
http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/
http://video.yahoo.com/watch/688061/3111928/


If you want to support people who ARE proud of their country:
http://www.nationalblackrepublicans.com/index.cfm?fuseacti on=home.main&tp_preview=true&x=7959345

http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.htm l
Free Ramos and Compean


Obama not a crook
Here's a link to the Washington Post's ombudsman's account of the story. She talked to many experts and found that the discount he received was well within the bounds of normal. He got a nice deal because he also happens to have invested 2 million in the company that gave him the mortgage. That is normal folks.

And I assume you right wingers have no problems with the wealthy getting a a good deal because they are wealthy, right?

Read it for your self: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/ 07/11/AR2008071102547_2.html?hpid=opinionsbox1

Dodd and Kennedy waitress sandwich
-- Ted Kennedy and Chris Dodd, participated in the famous “waitress sandwich” at La Brasserie in 1985. They are both contemptuous of women. Chris Dodd should not even be a senator; let alone a VP.

On second thought, he probably does fit the Dimocratic mold.




Obama/Dodd marriage with northern trust
this is the same corporation that sunk ubited airlines ESOP shares from $122 share to $2.50 after six years of mitigation, my 1,000 shares worth only $14 and still had to pay income tax. i believe some of the money went to these folks pocket while now i'm struggling to make ends meet. if anyone has any dealing with northern trust, better take your money and run while you still have some left. this corporation has high profile and works with bunch of crooks in the democratic party in particular. lost hope and penniless

Obama's Mortgage is Normal
As a retired banking executive, I can tell you that Obama's mortgage is a non-story -- it was within normal bounds and is neither illegal, unethical or considered SPECIAL privileged.
And believe me, I am DEFINITELY NOT AN OBAMA SUPPORTER. There is plently about Obama to bring to the attention of the American public -- don't waste time on SMOKE SCREENS!

Phylo out of it scribbles:
And I assume you right wingers have no problems with the wealthy getting a a good deal because they are wealthy, right?

Sure we do. Your side squawked long enough about Dick Cheney and his connection to making money off of the Iraq war. So get used to it.

If you want to support people who are NOT proud of their country:
http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/
http://video.yahoo.com/watch/688061/3111928/


If you want to support people who ARE proud of their country:
http://www.nationalblackrepublicans.com/index.cfm?fuseacti on=home.main&tp_preview=true&x=7959345

http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.htm l
Free Ramos and Compean



Sweet deals unavailable to the
average mortgage holder aren't acceptable no matter who has them, and I have never defended any pol. or any other who doesn't obey the same rules as everyone else.

Bill sayz:
who posted rubbish and drivel and thought it could pass as reasoned argument.

Don’t hold it against them, they are like Obambi, look at my left hand and ignore what the right one is up to.

If you want to support people who are NOT proud of their country:
http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/
http://video.yahoo.com/watch/688061/3111928/


If you want to support people who ARE proud of their country:
http://www.nationalblackrepublicans.com/index.cfm?fuseacti on=home.main&tp_preview=true&x=7959345

http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.htm l
Free Ramos and Compean


Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap
This will not hurt Dodd,Conrad or Obama with the liberal voters. Hypocrits,though they are. This will only elevate them to 'star status.'

If you have a 'D' behind your name ,you are home free and anything goes. They are all Teflon coated. Bleach would not clean them.

Obama house
My gosh this writer makes Obama's house sound like a mansion. Go to this website to view this "compound"

http://sedulia.blogs.com/photos/everywhere_else/barack_obam as_house.html

McCains house on the other hand is a condo, reports are that it is 7,000 square feet and several million dollars.


Giant mortgage companies Freddy Mac and Fannie May are in trouble big time struggling with failing mortgage holders. If the US government has to bail them out that will double our national debt. Think we have a weak dollar now, that should weaken it beyond repair.

McCains house on the other hand is a condo reports are that it is 7,000 square feet and several million dollars.


mccain replies
i really dont know the truth about the dodd thing but i do know what happened to mccain in at lest one kind of comparable instance. whenever any charge of corruption to obama comes up just yell as loud as you can KEATING. if they know about keating and his dealings with mccain they shut up immediately. t.

The Real Issue is...
That until we, as Americans, all realize the only reason this stuff goes on is because that fetid cesspool D.C. has become giver of all good things to those who ask, and put a stop to it, we'll have this behavior ad infinitum.

If our government and our sovreigns in Washington are prohibited from giving out the treasury and treasure of the American people, they won't be able to be bribed with cheap mortgages, trips, and other perks the rest of us do not receive. The answers don't lie with them, the answers lie with us.

Stop sending incumbent spenders to Washington!


Speaking Of Deals...
Charlie Rangel has a real sweet deal in Harlem. He has about four apartments in a district where apartments are extremely hard to get. He is being 'sort of investigated'.

He also leases a car at the tune of about $1000 per month at taxpayers expense.He is one of only ten congressmen who does this. Being a congressman really pays off...being black..priceless.

Anne 7:03 AM EST
"I don't post things UNLES I DO have a solid argument."

OK, let's hear it.

You said at 11:16 PM EST that "it was ILLEGAL what he did..." Let's hear your solid argument for what he did being illegal, and what law he broke.

I call your attention to Nana's post at 10:03 AM EST: "As a retired banking executive, I can tell you that Obama's mortgage is a non-story -- it was within normal bounds and is neither illegal, unethical or considered SPECIAL privileged."

So go ahead; post your solid argument.

Nana
Tho it may not be illegal in and of its self, I think if he does any favors for the persons after he becomes POTUS would be a crime IMO. They call them sweetheart deals for a reason. Libs go after Republicans all the time for the same things or less. So why not go after their side with the same gusto?

If you want to support people who ARE proud of their country:
http://www.nationalblackrepublicans.com/index.cfm?fuseacti on=home.main&tp_preview=true&x=7959345


If you want to support people who are NOT proud of their country:
http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/
http://video.yahoo.com/watch/688061/3111928/

http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.htm l
Free Ramos and Compean

Urgent message to John McCain...
Have you heard that Hillary supporters have raised over $10,000,000 in jsut a couple of weeks and plan to have her entire campaign debt retired by this weekend so that they can dump Obama at the convention?

This is great news for everyone who is sick of SNOBAMA!

Just go to: http://justsaynodeal.com/ for all of the delicious details.

Maybe...
.. if elected Obama and Dodd can get us all sweetheart deals on our mortgages. Sweet, dude.

chicaree
The Washington Post reported the loan, obtained in 2005, financed a new Obama compound that came with “six bedrooms, four fireplaces, a four-car garage and 5 1/2 baths, including a double steam shower and a marble powder room” as well “a wine cellar, a music room, a library, a solarium, beveled glass doors and a granite-floored kitchen.”

Yup, sounds like a mansion to me. They are all mansions to me and most of us working class folks.

If you want to support people who ARE proud of their country:
http://www.nationalblackrepublicans.com/index.cfm?fuseacti on=home.main&tp_preview=true&x=7959345

If you want to support people who are NOT proud of their country:
http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/
http://video.yahoo.com/watch/688061/3111928/

http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.htm l
Free Ramos and Compean

Hillary isn't dead yet!
Have you heard that Hillary supporters have raised over $10,000,000 in jsut a couple of weeks and plan to have her entire campaign debt retired by this weekend so that they can dump Obama at the convention?

This is great news for everyone who is sick of SNOBAMA!

Just go to: http://justsaynodeal.com/ for all of the delicious details.

happy birthday to me,
happy birthday to me, happy birthday to me,
I wish Obambi libs would go away,
and let me live free!

If you want to support people who ARE proud of their country:
http://www.nationalblackrepublicans.com/index.cfm?fuseacti on=home.main&tp_preview=true&x=7959345


If you want to support people who are NOT proud of their country:
http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/
http://video.yahoo.com/watch/688061/3111928/

http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.htm l
Free Ramos and Compean

Conservatives for Hillary!
Look McCain cannot beat either Snob-bama or Hillary. For Pete sakes he cannnot even get more than one article a day on Townhall or any other right-wing web site.

The Republicans have got to notify McCain that for the good of the party he needs to step aside and let someone run who can actually run a campaign.

Either we - Dump McCain now - or everyone should back Hillary's PUMA group and get her to oust Snob-bama in Denver.

With McCain tanking this campaign we are going to get a Snob-bama in the White House.

So ask yourself, who do you want putting curtains in the First Lady's Mansion - Michelle Snob-bama or Bill Clinton.

Personally, I'll take Clinton over Snob-bama anyday beacause I want "Corruption we can beleive in" versus "Corruption we aren't sure about" - which is what you will get from Snob-bama.

So let's dump McCain or back Hillary 'cuz I don't want Snob-bama. Do you?

BTW: Have you heard that Hillary supporters have raised over $10,000,000 in jsut a couple of weeks and plan to have her entire campaign debt retired by this weekend so that they can dump Obama at the convention?

This is great news for everyone who is sick of SNOBAMA!

Just go to: http://justsaynodeal.com/ for all of the delicious details.

Doc
Is it your birthday? Or are you just jiving?

Oh, Amanda,
Don't you realize, Democrats Don't Care about scandal? Obama won't lose a single, solitary Dem vote over this. And any Republican ready to vote for him is too stupid to see the implications of all his connections and radical ideas anyway.

Rowly
No jive sir, 25 ok, ok maybe 50 something, and the commies have not killed me yet 8<>

If you want to support people who ARE proud of their country:
http://www.nationalblackrepublicans.com/index.cfm?fuseacti on=home.main&tp_preview=true&x=7959345

If you want to support people who are NOT proud of their country:
http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/
http://video.yahoo.com/watch/688061/3111928/

http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.htm l
Free Ramos and Compean





Dump McCain
McCain can't make a headline in a newsroom. Even here on TH 99% of the stories are about who? Snob-bama. Just listen to McCain give a speech. You need a bottle of No-Doze to stay awake. Obama will squeeze 75,000 Obamies into Invesco Field while McCain can't pay enough fans to fill the seats behind the podium at a photo-op! You may want to live under Snob-bama's idiocracy, but I don't! I don't mind losing but I want to go down fighting and McCain isn't fighting - he's tanking like a ringer in a fixed fight.

Doc
If it's your birthday...then............ HAPPY BIRTHDAY AND MANY HAPPY RETURNS!!!

BUT he is SOOOOOOO innocent
Shady Obama

always has a great excuse for his cirminal conduct:

Obama's change is changing his story every other day, always another calculated lie about his calculated lies

the Brain Fried Druggie and his circle
WOW

If Brain Fried Druggie Obama, with his shady circle of influence and shady deals were a GOP he'd be fried in the Press and driven out of the race:

AMAZING how democrats can justify their criminal conduct, illegal drug use, terrorist friends and racist activities

Regal Lion
writes, "You may want to live under Snob-bama's idiocracy, but I don't!"

lol. It does seem we are heading there doesn't it?

Hey Doc
Like fine wines we all get better as we AGE!! Many happy returns Guy!!! Wishing you a joyous Election day!!!

Hitchhiker
Don't bet the farm on Nobama yet. He isn't in the white House yet!

dirty politics
Obama "A new breed of politician"
good thing he is a half breed or the mud he slings would be twice as dirty.
Barack Hussein repeatedly distorted McCain wanting a 100 year war in Iraq when you knew perfectly well that was not what McCain said- Obama is a dirty
politician and McCain is a Gentleman
and now Obama is stabbing his cut and run base in the back with his new refined Iraq policy which is exactly Bush and McCain's CONDITIONS BASED WITHDRAWAL what a "refined" demagogue! that's the real OBAMA

Dump McCain Pronto!
McCain can't make a headline in a newsroom!

Even here on TH 99% of the 2008 election stories are about who? Snob-bama!

Just listen to McCain give a speech. You need a bottle of No-Doze to stay awake.

Obama will squeeze 75,000 Obamies into Invesco Field while McCain can't pay enough fans to fill the seats behind the podium at a photo-op!

I don't mind losing but I want to go down fighting and McCain isn't fighting - he's tanking like a ringer in a fixed fight.

If you don't want to live under a Snob-bama idiocracy, then...

Dump McCain Now!

How did we get McCain?
I believe your amazement goes to the heart of the most important question regarding elections in the US which is: Does the US have free nad fair elections? Or are they fixed?

There were many questions about the veracity of the New Hampshire primary in particular - especially on the Dem side.

I personally feel that McCain is a stooge; a palooka; a stiff; a guy who knows he's gonna lose; knows he's supposed to lose.

Why would he do it?

Who knows, but it gives him a chance to take a victory lap around the nation, visit a few foreign dignitaries AND help put a DEMOCRAT in office.

Other than that your guess is as good as mine as to why a guy would go to all the trouble of winning the nomination only to run a campaign that couldn't get him elected dog-catch

meg
Maybe these secrets are why the Clintons haven't thrown in the towel yet. Maybe she has a plan. The Clinton Machine War Room is up and operating. Why?
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