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Thursday, June 12, 2008
Amanda Carpenter :: Townhall.com Columnist
Viral Video on Immigration Costs
by Amanda Carpenter
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Video testimony from a Florida hospital administrator about the millions of tax dollars spent providing health care for illegal aliens is spreading like wildfire on the internet.

Last April, Carol Plato, director of services from Martin Memorial Medical Hospital, told members of Florida’s House Committee on State Affairs about the extreme financial burdens illegal immigrants have imposed on her hospital. The Florida House of Representatives posted video from the day’s testimony and later an immigration enforcement advocate clipped her segment and uploaded it to YouTube, where it’s received almost 400,000 views to date.

In the video, Plato testifies: “In 2001, we had a Guatemalan, an illegal patient in our hospital. He was there from 2001 and until 2003. He had over $1.5 million in health care services. We forcibly returned him to his home county of Guatemala at our own cost of $30,000. You ask why am I telling you about a case that happened in 2003? Because today that case is not over. We have spent and are spending up to a quarter of a million dollars in legal fees because his family here in the United States is suing us because they think it as inappropriate for us to return this illegal patient to his home country.”

She also reminds Florida lawmakers of the $100 million providing healthcare for illegal aliens in 2007. [See video and transcript below].

The video was uploaded by a man whose YouTube screen name is SoFlaPatriot.

In an interview with Townhall, SoFlaPatriot said he participates in lobbying activities with two immigration enforcement groups called Floridians for Immigration Enforcement and Bridges Across America.

“A lot of people are angry,” SoFlaPatriot said. He asked Townhall not to publish his real name because of threatening comments that have been posted in the comments section of the video, but is happy more people are finding out about the expenses of illegal immigration because he uploaded the video.

“I’m definitely gratified this got out there,” he said. “This is public domain stuff. There’s got to be a lot more of it out there. People just need to find it and post it.”

Below is the video and transcript of Plato’s testimony.

PLATO: In 2001, we had a Guatemalan, an illegal patient in our hospital. He was there from 2001 and until 2003. He had over $1.5 million in health care services. We forcibly returned him to his home county of Guatemala at our own cost of $30,000. You ask why am I telling you about a case that happened in 2003? Because today that case is not over. We have spent and are spending up to a quarter of a million dollars in legal fees because his family here in the United States is suing us because they think it as inappropriate for us to return this illegal patient to his home country.

Currently, as of today, I have a patient from Mexico who has been in my hospital for 760 days. He has severe brain damage, has no family, no friends. His charges to date for almost two years is $1.5 million and we have contacted the Mexican Consulate four times, we have contacted Immigration and nobody will help us return this patient to Mexico. We are even willing to spend our own $30,000 to return this patient. We can’t get anyone to help us with that.

In 2007, the Florida Hospital Association estimates that there was $100 million in costs for illegal care. That affects all of us. One of the major problems that health care institutions have today that you need to be aware of is ongoing care. If somebody comes into our emergency rooms we don’t turn them away. But if someone comes into our emergency room and they have renal failure and they require dialysis, right now I have six patients, illegal, undocumented patients that we are seeing every three days for renal dialysis. For all this I have talked about we have received no reimbursement. This obviously affects all of us in this room. Our health care costs are severely affected by this. I would also like to end with pointing out that a large percentage of the babies born at our facility are from illegal parents.”

QUESTION: Ma’am, when you know they are illegal do you report them to federal authorities so you they can get them?

PLATO: We have tried and we have been told on numerous occasions that they’re only interested if a crime has been committed. And, from what I understand they’re not even interested then.

QUESTION: So the fact that they’re illegal is not enough crime?

PLATO: Correct.

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McCain Is Still For Amnesty

John McCain has not changed his mind about "Comprehensive Immigration Reform", amnesty, at all.

http://townhall.com/columnists/AmandaCarpenter/2008/03/28/b loggers_press_mccain_adviser_on_immigration
“John McCain’s position on immigration is very clear and this a question that gets asked at townhall appearances everyday in media appearances and has answered the question at least a thousand times before the New Hampshire primary,” Schmidt said.

He explained, “Any person who supports John McCain’s campaigns is a subscriber to John McCain’s views"

A vote for McCain is a vote for surrender of your country.

Your vote for McCain will be used as proof that you want amnesty.



Many of us see another amnesty as the end of the Republic, the stampede it will set off will be overwhelming. If we don't stop the inundation none of the rest matters. We'll be a banana republic before the jihadis can get us. There will never be another GOP president or Congressional majority. Importing voters for the socialists is as stupid as it gets.


McCain keeps saying "Secure the border first". We know that he means amnesty next. The plan is to get the border state Gov's to declare the border secure. Conveniently, they are all on board the cheap labor express. Then his good friend Ted Kennedy will bring back McCain/Kennedy and McCain can provide his good friends across the aisle with their new permanent majority.

I will not vote for amnesty.

two issues
1) we need to get control of immigration and send them home. the US should only admit people into the country who will be net taxpayers day #1. low skill illegals will not be net taxpayer for a generation or more.

2) why are hospital costs so high? the medical establishment has gotten out of control with prices. it is absolutly rediculous that a hopital can charge an average of $2k a day for 760 days.

maybe we need to throw some of the hosipital administrators in jail when we see $6 charges for an asprin.

the legislators and the hospital administrator should be ashamed!

Everybody loses
Hospitals in areas where illegals are common have been long been going out of business of cases like these.
And this causes everybody to lose.

Maybe the hope is that all the workplace raids ICE is doing these days will reduce the strains illegals impose on our society by taking away the "magnet" of US jobs that attract them here to work in the first place. If so, ICE will really have to become more aggressive and raid everywhere, because wherever these "magnets" exist at all, there is also a force that draws legal residents further away. It's higher
costs, poorer service, alienation in one's own community, and all that comes with it.

The mindless PC minions will say that if you don't like it you're a racist bigot. But I say you should hate it, draw a sharp line, and everyone will win.


We are making progress
Last night, I was watching the nightly BBC America news and they had an extensive report on illegal immigration (they actually used that term!) in Arizona and gave a very fair reporting of the costs, crime and who is behind defending illegals' "human rights", a guy who owns 60 Carl's Jr restaurants and another cheap labor employer group called "WakeUpAmerica". They were arguing that chasing the illegals away by shutting down the employers was killing the economy. The local politician they featured (no, it wasn't Joe Arapaio) argued back that any employer who relies on illegal activity and the inhuman exploitation of a vulnerable group of people is not welcome in Arizona and are encouraged to leave.

The tide is turning. I guess mailing out those Bush pesos to the RNC and others is paying off.

Local radio in LA is also relentless on this issue. We haven't lost yet.

Please join the fight for OUR COUNTRY!!
http://www.BetterImmigration.com

http://www.NumbersUSA.com

The Legendary New York Radio Talk Host, Bob Grant, ends his show on WABC every night by saying - "YOUR INFLUENCE COUNTS... USE IT!!"

CA
I live in CA and this is a huge problem, but the governor does not see at as really denting into our budget. CA is in a big deficit and yes, the illegals have contributed a lot to this.
As for McCain agreeing to Amnesty, I do not believe that he has changed his mind about this nor will he stand up and do so.
And Obama wants to give them driver's licenses. I do not think that any of the candiates had a real stand on this and in CA this is a big issue.

screw the illegals
this is the typical bs that comes from wash and the bleeding heart libs that the illegals are no burden on this country. This lib myth is that these illegals are going to save america from the escalating costs of a failing social security system because they will become payers into the system.

Economists estimate that each illegal costs this country some $20,000. more than they contribute to this nation. Yet the leftists maintain that unlimited numberrs of grass cutters and lettuce pickers will keep america prosperous.

It is long past time to do something about the illegals. No matter how much a fence costs and also how much it costs to ship these illegals back across the border it is still cheaper than allowing them to stay and continue to steal our social services.

The longer america allows this illegal invasion the more it costs america. But the leftists/libs/dims and mccain can't understand we are at war with illegals.

When will our govt wake up and realize that illegals will finally bankrupt this country if congress and their irresponsible spending doesn't do it first. But it appears the congress has no problem sending $500 billion to opec this year for gas. Perhaps they will be satisfied when opec and china finally take over america because they simply bought it

Epitaph
A nation's culture reflects the people who live there. America's traditional culture has been free and brave.

It won't be long til it will be lethargy. I wonder if History (written by others) will even acknowledge what we lost.



Mexicans are now citizens of the USA
This is why the Federal Government will not stop the flow, the invasion actually.

The terms GW Bush has signed with Mexico and Canada, amounts to adding both Canada and Mexico as our 51st and 52 second State.

By passing the Constitutional Method, all based in the Trade Agreement we know as NAFTA.

Mexican Citizens who live in the Border towns, are given the exact same access to our health care system as any other citizen is.

Knowing that to put this question of adding Mexico and Canada, into the Union would be so outrageous, the people would rebel, the Federal Government is doing it anyway by Trade Agreements, secretly.

The idea is to ignore all the problems on the Border, and just give it lip service as some concern.
Meanwhile the real war in right HERE on our Southern Border, as more people have been killed by terrorism, than our Military has suffered in both Iraq and Afghanistan.
We are not only being lied to, as to this truth, its being kept from awareness on purpose.
We have already lost the Republic of America, and are now a part of the global government under the UN and International Bankers.

Fact, and will be attacked as a "conspiracy" tale, and many will hide their heads in the sand and agree, just so they do not have to take an open eyed look at the truth.
The truth can be so hard to look at, and avoided as long as possible.

Ok, hide your head in the sand, but this is why we now have over 1 tenth of Mexico living here already and the Feds will NEVER stop it, by choice anyway.




Illegals do what other Americans won't
Illegals kill American citizens that other Americans will not kill!

What a Country!

Are you strong enough to face the truth?
Then take a long hard look at the CFR.
These people are the ones setting Foreign Policy for America.
They do it out of the public eyes, behind closed doors.
And is who GW Bush, John McCain, Hilliary and Obama all work for.
Liberty is no longer the guiding principle of the Federal Government, its Business.

The Merchants own our government today, and their only concern is profits.
This fits nicely into the Marxist Socialism of the prevailing politics of the entire world, making the State the giver of rights, and not God as this Nation was Founded in recognition of.

Most people do not understand Karl Marx, and think he cared for the poor.
And this is the driving spirit of socialism, when its just the opposite.
Marxism is about monopoly of government and business, same identical goal of the super rich men who own the Western Governments today, as well as China and Russia, Cuba and Venezuela and many other smaller nations around the world.

GW Bush and the entire Bush family belong to this club of globalists, as well as many in our State and Federal Governments.




We already have anarchy
And it is going to get worse, not better.
Its planned anarchy.
It must come so the changes can be made the globalists in our government have planned for us.

This is also why GW Bush wants all to focus on the War on Terrorism, in Iraq and Afghanistan, that is.

He has NEVER once said a word about any of the 6000 dead Citizens along the Mexican Border.
He has never once mentioned all the FRAUD being committed against all Identity Law with the KNOWN False identity of ALL Illegal Aliens MUST USE to gain employment.
HE KNOWS ALL THIS!
But he has never yet spoken of it, only about their rights.
As if they are not breaking a single law to even have a job, let alone be here.

We have had armed Mexican Troops cross the Border into America COUNTLESS TIMES.

And not ONE TIME HAS ANY OF THE PEOPLE IN OUR MEDIA REPORTED ON ANY OF IT.
Except for the alternate media, it goes unreported.




Excellent article--
My hope is that all this info gets out in the open to all media.. Unfortunately, it will probably be softened up by the PC punks. It appears that it won't be long now before more hopitals have to close as a result of this and someday soon the sheep will wonder why.
Yes, I believe that we have been sold out on purpose by the global gang. Also, very good posts here on the thread.

The day is far spent, the night is here
The darkness of lies and deceit fill our government and media.

Truth is stomped out of public discourse.
Truth is the light of the world, and is being turned off on purpose.
Its what the so-called "fairness doctrine" is all about.
Shutting all opposing views that speak truth down and out.


Those who speak truth are demonized, and called every name in the book.

Men like Ron Paul
Tom Tancredo
Mark Steyn
And many others the list will include.

The Sunday Morning talk shows about politics is always be the same brain dead idiots, whose opinions are worse than the death penalty for me.

If this is the future for America, I feel like the Patriot that said:
"Give me Liberty, or give me death"

I have come to despise Congress
I have come to despise the Senate
I have come to hold no respect for this President and I also voted for him in my own blind stupidity.
Now we get a choice to elect an extremist, an ideological Marxist, and also a maverick, who takes joy in his dishonesty with the American Public.

If I am on the fringe of America today, in how I feel, fine, I will die on the fringe and never follow the fools now in charge of government and information, holding them all as worse than liars.
They are criminals against America itself.




WTF?!!?
OMG...what do the FEDERAL AUTHORITIES understand by ILLEGAL aliens?!? _

"QUESTION: Ma’am, when you know they are ILLEGAL do you REPORT them to FEDERAL AUTHORITIES so you they can get them?

PLATO: We have tried and we have been told on numerous occasions that they’re only interested if a CRIME has been committed. And, from what I understand they’re NOT EVEN INTERESTED THEN.

QUESTION: So the fact that they’re ILLEGAL is not enough crime?

PLATO: Correct."

BTW Amanda
Excellent article and thank you for getting this out. All we ever hear is about the "poor undocumented". They have plenty of documents, the problem is they are fraudulent.

TH
Is the only place other than Rush and Beck, I've ever heard in-depth reporting or discussion on the costs of illegals. I wish more would do so as we definatly need it. I think if the majority knew about it, we wouldn't have the problem we have today. I think there's a lot of libs out there that don't know the true costs and should. Too bad we can't send a copy of this transcript to every home in the country. If it was signed by the hospital staff, it might carry some weight.

Health care is but one expense
The cost to school districts for special education, English as a second language (ESL), and free breakfast and lunch programs is astronomical. Corrections costs, due to increased gang activity and the subsequent drug dealing and violent crimes, are up exponentially. Then there are the work crews that low ball American contractors and get the jobs, and then send the money back home while receiving social welfare here. THIS HAPPENS ALL THE TIME!!! The irony is the American workers are taxed to death to pay for those who take their jobs so the money can be sent to another country!

There is nothing but national suicide inside the Trojan Pinata that is illegal immigration. Our "leaders" want us destroyed- that is the only explanation.

Yes, eastlake joe, you are right
but America has been so marinated in politcal correctness that her people will destroy her while feeling very good about themselves. People have been programmed to not see what they see, to feel what others THINK they should feel, and to call any uncomfortable truth about sacred cow people group a "myth". Despite the presentation of hard numbers at state meetings, your average social worker will still maintain that Mexicans do not have larger families than anyone else, nor do they utilize more public services- yet mathematically, they clearly do. If pressed, it may be conceded that SOME have larger families, therefore besmirching the others pining away to be in medical school. When people insist upon bent reality, there is no penetration humanly possible.

Oldsocialworker (i wish you guys would
get shorter screen names) There has to be a way to get the word out and have it carry some political weight. Like telling every property owner in the property tax states, how much it cost each one to pay for the illegals. I know it was money and how much it was costing my neighbor for the schools pretty much made him vote against each levy. He said bring up the grad rate to about 98% and he might talk. Then Cleveland raised the school taxes and they have a grad rate of 71% (I think that is what they said.) 71%!!!! thats's disgusting!!

What I find perplexing, Joe,
is that many people see the social problems and expense, but have firmly affixed assumed truths that cause them to turn to the very source of the problems for help. Like mantras, I hear chronic hatred of: "corporate America", "Wal Mart", "big oil" , "big pharma"- basically everyone and everything that provides the lion's share of our jobs and infrastructure.

Even when the word gets out, in this case on the cost of illegal immigration, the information gets filtred through these encrypted internal filtering systems of the programmed masses and has a boomerang effect. The response to social problems gets handled, "solutions" are thrown into action, and the results fly back at us with grave injury upon impact.

TALENT SCOUT
Hey, I thought there were 57 states already. Seriuosly, this is an excellent post and video and I have passed it on to all my associates. I hope everyone else has done the same.

Illegal Immigration: A Rich American’s G


This is one of the best articles I have ever read about explaining the core issue behind illegal immigration. Congress has formed an unholy alliance with the lobbyist money changers in Washington to sell out small business and the middle class. Please read this article and tell me what you think.

By Froma Harrop

RCP-There’s a popular game in America that goes, I’ll cut your wages, but you don’t cut mine. And the outsourcing of your factory job to China is a good thing, because it makes my paycheck go further at Wal-Mart. We hear this theme a lot in the debate over illegal immigration.

Consider the recent raids on Swift meat-processing plants. Federal agents arrested 1,187 illegal immigrants at facilities in six states. Mere hours later, economists warned that depriving the industry of illegal labor could raise hamburger prices.

read more

http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/illegal-immigratio n-a-rich-americans-game

What a kook? The MSM is always right.
Ron Paul on illegal immigration.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzjSX2kO07Y

Illegal immigration, NAU a conspiracy. That is right just like Larry Kudlow (KING DOLLAR BABY!).

What a joke the MSM is. Bunch of lying fools.

A MUST READ
http://www.usillegalaliens.com

It covers the detrimental impact on the economy, education, diseases, jobs, traffic accidents, crimes, sex crimes, crimes against children, the cost of social and medical programs, cultural differences and how they are tearing apart the fiber of American society. It is lengthy but well documented and written.

Illegals raising hospital costs for ever
As an RN in an emergency room, I can tell you that hospital costs are going up because of illegal immigrants using the ER as an outpatient clinic. They come in and run up bills starting at around $1600.00 to get free ibuprophen or other similar drugs. If they do not feel better in 24 hours, after they have been told it will take 3 days for the medication to show an improvement, they are back running up another bill that they have no intention of paying. Often they are arrogant and demanding. Their misuse of the ER often lengthens the ER waiting time dramatically. I have had them come in demanding to see a doctor because they called in sick to their job for SuperBowl and now want a doctors excuse. That excuse could easily cost the US taxpayer anywhere from $800 to $2000 because the doctor must investigate the patients symptoms and make a diagnosis or risk a frivolous lawsuit. Don't get mad at the Hospital Administration and staff. Put your indignation where is should be, on the people who are here illegally sucking the lifeblood out of our hospitals, schools, Social Security system,Law Enforcement agencies etc., etc.!
Thanks for letting me vent!! An RN who has to deal with this ridiculous mess all the time.

BOILING MAD LEGAL IMMIGRANT!
I made huge sacrifices to be able to enter this country legally. I learned the history, language and culture of the country. I made all efforts to integrate and become assimilated. I succeeded, and am proud of the fact I will soon become an American citizen. However, the disregard of our authorities and both parties (GOP and Dems) to address the issue of illegal immigration is maddening. America is being sold out cheap! In liberal circles being American and patriot has no meaning. It does mean a lot to me!

We are attracting illegals. Why? 1) Americans have become too proud and too lazy to do perform simpler tasks. Illegals come here to work dirt-cheap. 2) The liberals have succeeded in pushing "globalization"..."diversity"..."tolerance" down our throats. Clinical signs of the disease are evident everywhere you go: grocery stores, malls, restrooms, etc – you have to read things in Spanish, even though we’re in America – a former ENGLISH colony, where the spoken language is ENGLISH! However, speaking English stopped being a must for a couple of decades. As a result, integration is not needed and many immigrants don't bother becoming Americans. No wonder illegals are now receiving first-world med-care in our hospitals. You bet it's become the "law" to have hospital translators on site, so the Spanish population can be better served... or else the hospitals can be taken to court for neglecting their patients…

We truly have lost sight of the meaning “LAW” and have mistaken FREEDOM for LICENTIOUSNESS. Let’s wake up and smell the “tequila”! A latino green card holder is bringing a hospital to court because the hospital is sending the ILLEGAL relative/patient back home!? What planet are we in? You know what the authorities should do? Kick them out. You hold a green card and have the audacity to bring someone here illegally? YOU BOTH GET OUT OF HERE!!! You are a citizen and hire illegals?? JAIL!

further prove feds are major problem
This is just further proof that those who are paid to enforce the law do NOT.
It is a crime to be here illegally--there is no valid reason why ICE doesn't collect these people when they're clearly illegal and return them to wherever they came from. Especially in cases where they're bankrupting us--THAT is not a crime? It's theft of services on top of everything else.
Maybe Plato's hospital follows the law, but I also read regularly about IDIOTS in hospital administration who allow the ER to be misused by illegals and treat them for sheer nonsense--stubbed toes, poison ivy, etc. The law actually is for LIFE-THREATENING conditions and if hospital administrators weren't afraid of lawsuits lodged by scum who'd claim "discrimination" they'd kick those leeches out of the ER and let them do what Americans do--go see their doctor or use a walk-in or urgent care clinic to PAY for their MINOR medical service.
It's time to disbar some of these shysters who lodge these bogus, offensive cases. There is NO RIGHT to have any and all of "your family" in the country ILLEGALLY and if they get deported, too bad. WHAT is the legit basis for such a lawsuit? It's time judges developed backbone and brains and dismissed those bogus lawsuits and then submitted the shyster's name to the bar to be dealt with.

The worst of it, our media will not tell
From the link TheConstantGardener gave



quote:
The dark side, just the filtered stuff to support this crime wave, this invasion.


The lives of 12 U.S. citizens would be saved who otherwise would die a violent death at the hands of murderous illegal aliens each day.
* Another 13 Americans would survive who are otherwise killed each day by uninsured drunk driving illegals.
* There would be no one to smuggle across our southern border the heroin, marijuana, cocaine, and methamphetamines, which plague the United States, reducing the U.S. supply of methamphetamines that day, by 80%.
* Our hospital emergency rooms would not be flooded with everything from gunshot wounds, to anchor babies, to imported diseases, to hangnails, giving American citizens the day off from standing in line behind illegals.
* Eight American children would not suffer the horror as victims of sex crimes.




The MSM (mainstream media)..
they rarely tell us about are any of the negative aspects of illegal immigration. This report will detail some of the dark, negative aspects of the impact of illegal aliens that you might not be aware of.

Here are just some of the negative side affects of illegal immigration:

* easy conduit for terrorists entering the USA
* massive escalation in crime
* surge in foreign national prisoners to support for years
* increases Balkanization of US
* increases multiculturalism/segregation/divisiveness instead of the American melting pot
* increases desire for Aztlan (reclaiming SW states for Mexico)
* increasing number of traffic accidents
* main contributor to surging US population
* dramatic impact on society and infrastructure, including education
* destruction of fragile ecosystems in American SW
* main cause of emergency rooms and hospitals closing as well as service cut backs
* introduction of third world diseases
* increased welfare costs
* massive costs to society – over and above contributions

Johnnyp
Man, can't you read? This administrator says it pretty clearly: " If somebody comes into our emergency rooms we don’t turn them away." That is mandated by law and the poor have been using it to game the system for years, visiting the Emergency Room for routine doctor care for their families. The Illegals have just learned the same thing very quickly. This is one reason why medical care is so expensive, we all pay for those who cannot or will not pay for their care.

I don't know the answer, but this is clearly another 'unintended consequence'. Put it another way, no good deed goes unpunished.

Rustynail

The average voter is uninformed
The price of gas is hitting hard, because it simply can't be avoided. When jobs start to be hard to find for unskilled workers, this will hit hard too, and the out of work Americans will start to ask why. Until then, talking about illegal aliens on the news won't have much impact, because a majority of the voters don't watch or care. How many of Obama's adoring followers care about illegal aliens. None, that's how many. They care about his race, they care about being victims, they care about "big oil" and "windfall profits". And there may be enough of these fools to elect him. And how much better is McCain? Not very much.

What bugs me the most:
Isn't the Constitution of the United States a document governing AMERICAN CITIZENS? The operative word being *C I T I Z E N S*?

My mother was in a hospital, in a coma, and we were REQUIRED to remove her to a nursing home. WHY IS THIS NOT DONE WITH ILLEGAL ALIENS?

Two Patients
So she mentions two patients that cost a lot of money. And for that we should deport 12 million people.

Health costs for illegals in Florida

Seated next to the speaker is state representative Gayle Harrell, who had invited the speaker to the meeting.
She is running for the US congressional seat vacated by Mark Foley and has been endorsed by Newt Gingrich.
Please support her campaign.

JJL



Get rid of the anchor babies ..plus
If a child born in the US has TWO LEGAL parents he/she should a US citizen, period, no more rights if the babies born here to parents who shouldn't be here to begin with.We also have to take away the citizenship of the babies who have been give US status in the past 17 years if their parents were illegal.That way they're not legal adults with rights they have to go back with their parents to their country of origin.
That in itself will help.
No more services of any type to people who can't prove they're here legally.
Close the borders north and south for one year to all. Pass a law that only allows highly educated people to have green cards and visas.(selected immigration) If a US citizen marries someone from another country have the spouse prove they're fluent in English and have never of been convicted of a crime in their former country.
We need to get back to making it a privlege to be here...and get rid of the blood/life sucking ones that are here illegally.

It is worst in Pennsylvania
I watched Sen. Ted Kennedy, D-Mass., hard at work two months ago on C-Span, showing on his charts how seven million U.S. citizens are presently unemployed. He also showed how presently there are only four million jobs available in the United States. How can Democrats push for the amnesty of 20 million illegal immigrants, while providing us with the best evidence against it?

Illegal immigrants are the biggest contributors to unemployment in the United States, and they are forcing many U.S. citizens into early retirement. Two illegal immigrants are working for the price of one American and with no employee benefits. They help the employer in the present and future. My school taxes have doubled because of the illegal immigrants’ many, many children in our public schools.

While our troops are bravely fighting for freedom in the Middle East, at home it appears freedom is free for illegal immigrants as they invade our nation.

The Democrats advocating for amnesty are saying that citizenship for illegal immigrants will cost them each a $5,000 fee. In reality, what these politicians are saying is that the lives of the brave heroes we lost in this war on terror are each only worth $5,000.

In Pennsylvania we have veterans living underneath bridges and employed illegal immigrants living in the rental properties.
How can our government propose to give amnesty to 20 million low-wage-earning illegal immigrants, all of whom will then be eligible for free government welfare programs, when it cannot help just a few hundred thousand veterans, many of whom just need proper medical care or are truly homeless or unemployed?
In Pennsylvania we have veterans living underneath bridges and employed illegal immigrants living in the rental properties.

Some People Just Don't Get It
Comment by Dave:
"Two Patients
So she mentions two patients that cost a lot of money. And for that we should deport 12 million people."

While these may be two extreme examples, it is happening every day tens of thousands of times every day.

It's been documented that many illegal aliens visit hospital emergency rooms for minor illnesses (when the rest of us simply visit a doctor).

The costs are not just confined to medical, but involve education and other forms of social services.

As the jobs of middle class Americans are being outsxourced and energy costs keep rising, how can we afford to take care of 20 to 30 million illegal aliens? Maybe they can live with Dave from VA.

When Will The Open Borders Crowd get it?
Now multiply this by 50 states and maybe you can grasp the cost to tax paying citizens, many of whom themselves can not afford health care.
This is but one aspect of the cost of Illegal immigration. Yet the open borders crowd, ACLU etc., deny that there is a significant cost to taxpayers. These Illegals work for slave wages and pay very little in taxes compared to what services they use for themselves and their family.
It is time for taxpaying citizens to wake-up and let your representaives in the House and Senate know that we are fed up.

Deny Care to Those Who Are Illegal
I don't care if I''m deemed heartless. We need to get serious and deny care and all other benefits to those who are illegal. This is part of why the illegals come here -- to parasite off of our systems paid for by citizens and taxpayers.

If you don't provide the goodies and jobs, they won't come.

Problem solved. Someone needs to get tough.

Dave is not thinking
Surely Dave understands that the two were an example of the extreme cases and she didn't have time to name the other 6 million illegal users of the emergency room services.

It's time
to take our country back from illegals and the liberals. America we need a meeting place and a plan.

I am fed UP!

CANNOT URGE IT ENOUGH
READ:

http://www.usillegalaliens.com

It is very factual, supported by research, and is divided into sections addressing problems. If you do nothing else, read this site.

A Sick Person is a Sick Person
I'd rather have my tax dollars go to help someone from another country than bomb them, which is what's really draining our economy.

keep the pressure up
relentlessly...call your senators, congressmen & even the president...tell them AMERICAN CITIZENS FIRST...NOTHING FOR ILLEGALS...

1) when a pregnant illegal woman comes into a hospital, she should be put on a bus/plane immediately back to her home country...we know what she's up to...and IT"S A CRIME!!

2) get rid of ANCHOR BABY program...this should be 1) actually.

The phonecalls have been affective.

ALSO, call McCain's campaign office and tell them the same thing...

KEEP THE PRESSURE UP!!


raving moderate
yes, a sick person is a sick person....and I'm sick of taking care of other able bodied people who come here to take advantage of us...it's bad enough we have enough of our own homegrown lazy, incompetents that we end up taking care of(add the 50-70% of high school dropouts that will be added to the welfare rolls cause they're not employable), you want to take in those from other countries as well? how about all of those poor in the African nations...let's bring them in and take care of them also.

You know what, you will do it as I'm on my way out and the costs are going to be borne by you and your children.........if we don't draw the line somewhere....and soon!!

Johnnyp and Dave
**2) why are hospital costs so high? the medical establishment has gotten out of control with prices. it is absolutly rediculous that a hopital can charge an average of $2k a day for 760 days.**
**So she mentions two patients that cost a lot of money. And for that we should deport 12 million people."**

Hospital costs are so high because those that can pay, pay for those who can't. Those two patients mentioned in the video have ruined that hospital's ability to budget because there's no end to their care. What is so hard to understand? And the thousands of normal births by illegals have driven up the price of health care immeasurably.

Southern CA hospitals have closed their emergency rooms to avoid some of the problems of having to pay for illegals - who does that hurt the most? You and me. Good luck if you're badly injured in SoCal.

Susan
In CA, it costs the taxpayers about $9 billion per year for illegals. It is not only medical that takes a big chunk, but also the school systems, jails, etc. Governor Arnold does not think that this dips into our budget at all. They also get credits for college and tuition reductions. I have to laugh at this.

There is a hospital about 15 minutes from my home. On a Friday night, the emergency room is packed. The illegals use this as a doctor's office, so the normal wait time is anywhere from 30 minutes to two hours.

In 2007, our average was over 3 million illegals.

Not being too harsh, but something has to be done. I work with people that entered this country legally and had to wait. In fact some of still waiting to get their family member here and it has been 2 years up to 14 years for them and they still wait.

I also was a victim of identity theft by an illegal gang that was hacking into computer systems and taking information to open credit cards. It took me over a year to get this off my credit and nobody gives you the time or day or really cares.

Some thing has to be done.

"they work hard"....with stolen ID's...
The illegal alien virus is just that - a frickin virus, for it undermines the rule of law and enables certain ethnic groups, with surnames such as Torres, Lopez, Gomez, etc., to break numerous laws, while their legal mouthpieces cry "racism", when Americans demand the law be enforced.

Mexico intends to send another 20-30 million into our country on top of the 15-20 million (not all Mexicans) already here now.

If you want your hometown to become Tijuana, then keep quiet and listen to your diversity, multi-cultural, PC masters tell you.

Illegals Killing Our Health Care System
For the hand-wringing, oh-so-caring (with other people's money) liberals who think the entire world is ENTITILED to AMERICAN healthcare, I suggest you all band together and post your addresses at Spanish-speaking websites. You can then invite all these illegals to stay in YOUR back yard, where you can feed them (with YOUR money), take their kids to school (don't forget the check for tuition), and, yes, take them to the hospital when they need medical care (and have the hospital send the bill to YOU, not the rest of us).

Any takers? I think not.

a great reference site

http://www.usillegalaliens.com/

"TheConstantGardener" recommended this site to me earlier today... actually, I already had it bookmarked, but if you want a site that has well-sourced stats on the myriad egregious inimical ills perpetrated by ILLEGAL aliens on America, this one is excellent.

The host of the site sounds like many among us-- no xenophobe or racist, as some bray reflexively ad hominem, but simply a concerned citizen shocked by the perhaps irreparable and growing menace of the madding crowd of ILLEGAL great unwashed, uneducated, indigent and willfully culturally disparate who are permeating America like the Black Death.

NOW is the time for all ...

good citizens to save America from the ILLEGAL alien invasion, pervasion and perversion!

What exactly are ILLEGAL aliens "entitled to" from American society? One side (see Geraldo, Linda Chavez, Smilin' Juan Hernandez) likes to proffer inane apologia and prattle such as, "border crossing is a minor transgression akin to jaywalking," or "they are just trying to feed their families," or "they are just doing those jobs Americans won't do," or "America needs their cheap labor." ALL of these are willful, vacuous, disingenuous red herring dodges!

ANY ILLEGAL alien who works here is automatically committing multiple felonious frauds, which does not count the pandemic social pathologies which permeate with them like the plague. It is NOT the obligation of American society and taxpayers to bail out corrupt and failed plutocratic Latin American governments by providing employment and social welfare for their myriad, ignorant indigent.

America CANNOT AFFORD this so-called "cheap labor," which actually benefits only the relative few miscreant employers-- a hotel room or head of lettuce is NO CHEAPER to the consumer as a result of ILLEGAL alien labor. When the feds make their "show raids" on miscreant employers such as meat processing plants, Americans (often the LEGAL workers previously displaced) usually refill the jobs
IMMEDIATELY.

Just below are the official contact sites for Congress... a few clicks, and you can EASILY send e-mails. Even easier--> NumbersUSA gives you FREE, prepared e-mails to send, and even targets your people in Congress for you. BOOKMARK THESE, and get engaged today! America would be a terrible thing to lose!

http://www.congressmerge.com/onlinedb/index.htm
http://www.numbersusa.com/actionbuffet

can they be repatriated?
Artful apologia for ILLEGAL aliens by the MSM, the PC ilk, racist/ethnocentric Hispanic lobbyists, and miscreant employer interests suggests that "we cannot deport 12 million," but this is an egregiously disingenuous false choice. First, if the govt. admits to 12 million, they surely know that there are MANY more. We have over 35 million now here who are foreign born, way too many of them ILLEGAL.

The red herring false dilemma subterfuge of the deportation dilemma has been proffered WAY TOO OFTEN. Tough new anti-ILLEGAL enforcement laws (approved with about half of the LEGAL Hispanic vote, I might add) took effect in Az. on Jan. 1. Guess what is happening there? Already, Arizona residents report trucks packed high with belongings heading back home to Mexico. In other states when new laws reverse sanctuary-ilk policies, typically due to citizen outrage over crime rates and social service decimation, ILLEGALS pick up and move like locusts to ravage elsewhere.

We need only reverse the PC, RINO, open border, globalist message with this reality--> America needs/wants ONLY LEGAL, EDUCATED immigrants who can contribute on balance and want to become AMERICANS, NOT the madding crowd of ILLEGAL, ignorant, indigent, culturally disparate who will ineluctably become HUGE net users of government services. Each such family will suck out $1.4 MILLION more in services than taxes paid in a lifetime (Heritage)-- ASSUMING they actually begin paying taxes!

The equation is actually surprisingly straightforward-- no jobs, no freebies, no amnestia-- NO STAY! Vamanos, muchachos! Hasta la vista!

How much do ILLEGAL aliens cost us?
just a few of the myriad direct costs...

1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year by state governments. http://tinyurl.com/zob77

2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.
http://www.cis..org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.
http://www.cis..org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.0.html

5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.htmlG ALS

How much do ILLEGALS cost us? (Part. 2)


8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for welfare & social services by American taxpayers.
http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html

9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by illegal aliens. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

10. Illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are going to create a huge additional crime problem in the US.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/12/ldt.01.html

11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our southern border; also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from terrorist countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroin and marijuana, crossed into the U.S. from the Southern border. Homeland Security Report...
http://tinyurl.com/t9sht

12. The National Policy Institute estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period.
http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/pdf/deportation.pdf

13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back to their countries of origin.
http://www.rense.co m/general75/niht.htm

14. “The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States.”
http://www.drdsk.com/articles.html

Still sound like "cheap" labor to you?!

Dave
Do you really think these two examples given are the only ones? There are probably thousands of examples that could be given from around the states but for lack of time and space. Are you asleep at your computer? did you bother to read the column a few days ago about the over 7000 United States citizens that have been killed along the border or all the tourists that have been harrased while in Mexico. Have you heard that there is a travel warning out on Mexico. Do those sound like histerics? As Lake said, wake upand smell the tequila!!!

Identity theft
My family have been the victims of identity theft, even my son who died. My husband had 1099's issued in his name for a job in a state that he never held. With a 1099, no taxes are withheld, so the taxpayer is responsible. While that sounds silly, you try and straighten that out with the IRS. If you think the IRS is reasonable or simple to deal with you are living in a fairy tale world. Try explaining to the IRS and debt collection agencies that your son could not have worked a job or gotten and used a credit card as he died when he was a teenager.

Do you know how much it has cost us to try to get this mess straightened out? And, it seems like it is never-ending.

My daughter had a boat bought in her name, using her credit, before Christmas. She had to hire a lawyer to get it off her credit report. Apparently, the boat was bought on her credit, no payment was ever made, and the boat was sold. Sadly, that was not the only item on the shopping spree. Until it is cleared up, her credit is damaged.

Comment by Dave:
"Two Patients
So she mentions two patients that cost a lot of money. And for that we should deport 12 million people."

No! Two million and Two!


Do not
read these if crimes on children P you off.

http://www.protectourusa.com/crime2.htm

How come some countries get it right?
One time, just for kicks, I checked out the immigration requirements for Australia. The general upshot was "don't even think about coming here unless you have a job, money in the bank, can take care of yourself, and speak English."

Gotta love those Aussies.

ILLEGAL ALIENS
THE cost of providing health care for illegal aliens are skyrocketing, at the same hard working Americans cannot obtain services, they must have insurance ,at the same time they are billed at a higher rate than someone with insurance insted of basing payment on their ability to pay, and they are referred to the credit unions (that destroy their names)their wages are garnished by the collection agencies.

In fact it was on the news that a woman lost her home because of a $60.00 dentist bill . like every thing Americans are treated as second class citizen in their own home (USA) we have the union and other legal firms fighting in court for illegal aliens but a U.S. citizen cannot obtain said services!!!

I came to this country more than 35 years ago work three jobs to provide for my children, was told that anyone that I brought in to this country could not obtain help in any form, that I would be responsible for them, and I HAD TO SIGN TO THE FACT BEFORE THEY WERE ALLOWED INTO THE COUNTRY now do you realize that an illegal alien can collect social security after only 18 months??? thrust me on that!! I have seen where a U.S. citizen is told that they cannot obtain disability although Workman's comp. Dr. as well as their Dr. have said that they are total disable!!! yet someone that came into this country lest than a year IS COLLECTING disability!!!!!!I am not sure if they are legal??!! nice of us to provide for someone els and not our own!!!

ILLEGALS and crime: ducks to water

http://www.adjunct.diodon349.com/Attack_on_USA/illegal_alie ns__du_murder_rape_terrorists.htm
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=51259
http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServer?pagename=research_ill egalsandcrime
http://www.milnet.com/mex-nat.html
http://newswithviews.com/Wooldridge/frosty2.htm

As the column points out, the crime problems associated with ILLEGAL aliens alone is reason enough to stanch their flow and reverse it attritively by simply enforcing EXISTING laws. Do not let their apologists tell you "we cannot deport 12 million." There are MORE than that, and we most certainly can reverse the flow.

Middle Americans JUST LIKE YOU have stunned Congress in the past year with their righteous indignation about the ILLEGAL alien incursion, but the memories of Faustian pols are short. See how YOU can easily help to make a difference at my earlier posts just below.

why hasn't the scourge been stopped?

The biggest problem is that the money and organization (hence power) is on the other side. The pro-ILLEGAL forces include an unlikely strange bedfellow alliance between groups which want to use them in different ways-- the Conspiracy Of Evil.

Miscreant employers simply want to exploit their labor-- screw the plethora of egregious socio-economic problems they foist upon America. The Chamber lobby is THE most powerful in Washington, and it wants "cheap" labor. Of course, only the ILLEGAL employers benefit-- your lettuce and hotel room are NO cheaper to YOU.

The PC left wants to get them voting and seize permanent control for big entitlement government. The scandal-plagued Catholic church needs replacement bodies for the pews; and
they can put more in the collection plates in America than in Mexico. Ethnocentric/racist Hispanic groups like La Raza and LULAC really do want an effective Reconquista, so they hide behind claims of racism and pleas for PC multiculturalism.

Finally, the remote elites including the liberal MSM do not see what all the fuss is about... besides, they LIKE their cheap ILLEGAL maids and yard-workers, and THEIR kids will not go to schools with "those people."

Easily 75% of America is righteously indignant about ILLEGAL aliens (see stats below), but they are not also purchasing the Faustian politicians like the employer lobby.

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=20530
http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServer?pagename=research_res earchd74c
http://newswithviews.com/Wooldridge/frosty306.htm

Citizenship, Talent Scout.??.

Almost, but not quite.

I don't know how many provinces Canada has, but the Mexican United States, it's full and legal name has 32 states. Add that to our 50 states plus the Canadian provinces, must be at least a dozen.

As to another remark by a different poster, ""Yet the leftists maintain that unlimited numbers of grass cutters and lettuce pickers will keep america prosperous.""

The number of illegals working in agriculture is 1 to 2%, percent, and the number mowing yards and nurseries is some what larger but does not exceed 10%. So what are most of them doing.??.

Construction of every kind including new federal buildings, re-roofing, laying carpet, slaughter house work of all kinds of meats, fast food jobs including kitchen work, now you know why tropical diseases are making a comeback in the U.S.A., cleaning homes and offices, roadside state cleanup crews, painting and home remodeling in huge numbers and on and on.

Oh, I see, jobs American citizens and legal immigrants don't want. Like h3ll they don't.

We have black unemployed, brown and white who are short of an education or have reached an age where the companies don't want them in positions for which they are qualified and have worked so they have to compete for lower wage jobs to avoid bankruptcy.

If the illegals were "braceros and limited to agriculture field work and gardening then maybe we could afford them. But as it stands, we can't. We are paying legal residents unemployment and many other services because hey have no or little work and also paying the illegalsm in undeserved benefits.

Just wait until their 40 or 50 million kids, or is that 80 million, grow a little older and are unable to speak decent English as well.
.
.

illegal aliens
I am mad as hell when I think that my children have fought for this country yet my daughter cannot obtain medical service although she is very ill; her husband works more than 90 hr. per week and makes good money but because of the high medical cost and RX. they are living from pay cheque to pay cheque. His company offer health coverage but at more than $500.00. per month it is out of the question!! add in the fact that old medical problems are not covered for the first year, it is not worth his while to buy into it, so where do they go from here?? she broke her finger, to this day it is crooked because she could not go to the hospital!!!! this is an American who have serve her country!!!! HELLOOOOO.

ALL POLITICIANS RUNNING FOR OFFICE SHOULD BE MADE TO LIVE THE LIFE OF A REGULAR AMERICAN FOR THE DURATION OF THE RACE SO THAT THEY CAN UNDERSTAND THE PIT FALLS THAT EVERY DAY AMERICAN HAVE TO DEAL WITH!!!!!!, MINIMUM WAGES, NO, OR LACK OF HEALTH CARE SUBSTANDARD HOUSING, HIGH PROPERTY AND SCHOOL TAX, LACKLUSTER SCHOOLING AND THE CONDITION THAT GOES WITH IT , DISABLE PEOPLE AND THOSE LIVING ON WHATEVER THEY RECEIVE IN THE FORM OF SOCIAL SERVICE ,AND THAT INCLUDE THE SENIOR CITIZEN OF THIS ONCE GREAT COUNTRY.

MAY BE THEN WE WILL HAVE PEOPLE THAT WILL DO THE RIGHT THING AND TAKE CARE OF AMERICANS FIRST!!!!!!. DONT GET ME WRONG ILLEGAL ARE PEOPLE TOO BUT WE CANNOT TAKE CARE OF EVERY ONE AT THE EXPENSE OF US, THE TAX PAYERS, IT IS LIKE A HUSBAND TAKING CARE OF HIS GIRLFRIEND AND BUT NOT HIS WIFE AND CHILDREN!!!!!!


CALL, FAX, SCREAM
Call or fax everyone you can find in Congress. Don't forget Teddy Kennedy now that they have found he has some semblance of a brain. Don't limit yourself to the federal level, let your thoughts be known at your state and local levels, too. Call your local police chief and Sheriff and ask what happens to illegals who get DUI's. You will be furious! Check with your local school board as to the numbers of illegals in your public schools, for which you pay taxes. See if you can get a straight answer. You elect your school board members. Aren't you entitled to know? Ask how much is being spent to educate children who don't speak English. Just a few thoughts to start with. Take it from there. If we don't speak up for ourselves, our elected officials surely won't.

Go to http://www.numbersUSA.com for updates for faxes.

Lake
You SIR are the type of person that is good for American immigration. WELCOME to the country. Even though it may not be the shining star it once was. Definately remember and nurture your birth heritage. But thank you for taking the time and effort to become a CITIZEN.

onceamarine
You miss the point I made about Mexican Citizens in the USA.

Show me where they are not being given the same Civil Rights US Citizens are given?

What does a US Citizen get as a Citizen the Mexican Citizens here are not getting?

Does not matter if we call Mexico the 51st State, they have become that de facto by allowing them in here and GIVING them the rights of Citizenship.

They get welfare
Health Care
Loans
Innocent until proven guilty of a Crime.
Jobs
Schools
Instate Tuition
Immunity from Identity theft and fraud
Immunity from all traffic Laws, including DUI.

Immunity from all Immigration law.
Geez, they actually have it better than our own poor.

Do you remember?
Do you remember when a kid in your neighborhood (or your son) mowed your grass?

Do you remember when there were part-time jobs for high school and college students?

Do you remember when there were summer jobs for teens?

Guess where they went! Are we better off for it?

BC 3 Reply #35
Someone once said, "It is hard to get a man to understand a thing when his wages depend on his not understanding it."

That explains why it is impossible to explain the negative impact of illegal immigration to those that depend on illegal immigration for their livlihoods.

Calling on all patriots to...

... get involved to save America! Middle Americans JUST LIKE YOU have stopped scamnesty so far, but it is an ongoing challenge against monied, powerful, organized special interests! As Mexifornia residents can attest, we risk losing America soon due to ILLEGAL alien voter fraud, the Reconquista agenda, and morphing ineluctably into a third world welfare state as they vote it in. The left is not waiting for them to become citizens-- why be bothered by that mere technicality?! They load them up in vans and hand them instructions in Espanol on how to vote. It is "40 acres and a mule/we're your friends" all over again.

Many RINOS/CINO'S are utter FOOLS to speak of capturing some of their votes because of purported "conservative social values." [What, pray tell, is "conservative" about wanton penchants toward crime, drugs, gangs, illegitimacies, ignorance/dropouts, barrio blight and balkanization, tax dodging, and identity fraud?!?!]

Legal, middle class Hispanics sometimes vote as conservatives, but ILLEGALS will vote 95:5 for entitlement government, thus soon inexorably morphing America irretrievably into a welfare state third world country, partly because they will insist that their myriad indigent, ignorant relatives all come here as well. Even a lib demographer has admitted that ILLEGAL immigration is the "the mother of all unfunded mandates for government largess."

If we do not stop ILLEGALS soon, it will be TOO LATE. Join the fight by rattling cages in Congress; you can reach them directly here at their official sites, or send targeted free e-mails via NumbersUSA... bookmark the sites, and get involved ASAP! America would be a terrible thing to lose... just look at Mexifornia-- fiscally broke, slouching toward barrio balkanization and ineluctably losing English, and losing many corporations and Middle Americans fleeing the blights.

http://www.congressmerge.com/onlinedb/index.htm
http://www.numbersusa.com/index

Dave from VA said

" So she mentions two patients that cost a lot of money. And for that we should deport 12 million people."

So the drunk driver kills a child on the bike. And for that we should outlaw everybody driving drunk?

Illegal cost for health care
We shouldn't deport 12 million illegals because of two patients costing a lot of money to treat. We should deport them because they are here illegally. There is an easy way to stop the influx of aliens. Do not make it automatic that a baby born here be a citizen. If the parents are not citizens then the baby should not be either. We are losing control of our country because of inaction over decades. Illegal aliens from all over the world are draining our economy. Schooling costs have gone through the roof due to ESL programs. The newest wave of aliens does not assimilate and perpetrate more crime per capita than the populace as a whole. Say no to anchor babies, yes to stricter boarders.

Vote Libertarian or Viote Not at All!
Voting Libertarian, voting Democrat, or not voting at all, will solve this problem. This will give Democrats ironclad control over both houses of Congress, insure the lifetime appointments of hundreds of Bolshevik judges, strip our Nation of protection against attack, and bring our economy back into the reasonable bounds enjoyed by the old Soviet economies. An America that exists only in Bolshevik history books cannot have the problems that a constitutional America once experienced, including a choice between an Obama and a McCain.

Problem solved!

FIREWOOD

Americans are divided on:

Healthcare
Abortion
Taxes
Iraq
Political Parties

Americans are almost unanamous on:

Illegal Aliens: Get them the hell out of here.
Oil: Drill Now.

Nancy Pelosi flies friends and family all over the world in a luxury jumbo jet burning millions of gallons of fuel while she pushes for amnesty for illegal alien invaiders.

It's time to show these Congressional amnesty maggots and no-drillers the disrespect they deserve. Treat them and address them with disdain. Spit on them and pelt them with rotten tomatos.

Then it's time to orgsnize and march on D.C. and state capitals. Tear down the Whitehouse. Tear down the Capital(s). Tear down the Supreme Outhouse(s). Drag home the pieces to use as firewood because we won't be able to afford to heat our homes this winter and the unemployed will apply for no jobs after they push 1 for English.

Please join the fight for OUR COUNTRY!!
826,438 VIEWS!!

http://www.NumbersUSA.com

cost of health care for immigrants
I totally agree with the video from Florida. These immigrants are costing all of us more money in health care. My son is working 2 jobs because he can't afford the health insurance from one of his jobs to support his family. He went to see if he could get some help from social services and they told him NO because they did not have enough funds to go around. WELL I wonder WHY!!! I also work with illegals here in WI and they are having kids left and right, and gee WHO'S PAYING FOR THAT????

Immigration Report Cards
See the grades for your Washington people at BetterImmigration.com

Hint: 68% have grades of "D+" or worse.


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