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Monday, April 07, 2008
Amanda Carpenter :: Townhall.com Columnist
GOP Warns Against Politicizing Petraeus
by Amanda Carpenter
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John McCain and his Senate colleagues are warning Democratic presidential contenders Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama against politicizing scheduled testimony from senior Iraq officials.

Honesty “is the responsibility of Senators Obama and Clinton, as well as Democratic and Republican leaders in Congress,” said GOP presidential candidate Sen. John McCain (R.-Ariz.) in an address before the Veterans of Foreign Wars in Kansas City. “Doing the right thing in the heat of a political campaign is not always the easiest thing. But when 4000 Americans have given their lives so that America does not suffer the worst consequences of our failure in Iraq, it is a necessary thing. In such a grave matter, we must put the nation's interests before our ambitions.”

Army General David H. Petraeus and Ambassador Ryan C. Crocker will testify to the Senate Armed Services Tuesday morning about progress in Iraq.

As the number one Republican on the Armed Services Committee and GOP’s presidential nominee, McCain’s handling of the hearing will be under intense scrutiny, as will his Democratic rivals’ participation in the hearings.

Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Hillary Clinton (D.-N.Y) will question the general and the ambassador after McCain, as she is a much lower-ranking member of the Armed Services Committee and speaking order is determined by seniority. McCain will also have the opportunity to make opening and closing statements, unlike Clinton.

Sen. Barack Obama (D.-Ill.) will question Petraeus and Crocker later that day when the two officials appear before the Foreign Relations Committee Tuesday afternoon. Obama may not have his chance until well into the late in the day, however, as he only outranks four other senators on the committee.

Partisan lines over testimony from these officials were drawn when the liberal special interest group MoveOn.org called Petraeus “General Betray Us” in a full-page advertisement in the New York Times on the day Petraeus and Crocker came to Congress last September.

Clinton further inflamed tensions when she told Petraeus it would take the “willing suspension of disbelief” to believe progress was being made towards improving the security situation in Iraq in her question and answer time.

After the days of testimony concluded the Senate held a vote to condemn the Move.Org ad. It passed 72-25. Obama was absent the day the vote was held and Clinton voted against reprimanding MoveOn.org. MoveOn.org has since endorsed Obama for president over Clinton.

While McCain was campaigning in Missouri, his Senate Republican colleagues were holding message-building conference calls from their Washington offices.

Sen. Lindsay Graham (R.-S.C.), fresh off his eleventh trip to Iraq, said Clinton’s remarks “might come up” again this week. Graham accompanied McCain and Independent Sen. Joe Lieberman (Conn.) on the trip, which included stops in Israel and Europe.

Graham noted how Democratic efforts to attack Petraeus have backfired. “It really undercut any effort to produce votes to end the war or set a timetable for withdrawal because most Americans found the whole concept of attacking him offensive,” Graham said in a conference call Monday afternoon.

Republican Whip Sen. Jon Kyl (R.-Ariz.) said he’d like things to go more smoothly this time around. “I’m hoping my colleagues in the Senate and the House will view the testimony received and the report in a non-partisan, constructive way towards trying to understand how we can continue to support the effort and understand both the positives and the negatives rather than use it as a political exercise,” he told reporters in a separate conference call late Monday morning.

The Republican National Committee, charged with fundraising and get out the vote activities for McCain, released a video that day titled “Politics vs. Petraeus” that contrasted statements made by Clinton and Obama with warnings from Petraeus about the effect a premature withdrawal would have on security improvements in Iraq.

Clinton and Obama have both promised to begin withdrawing troops from Iraq if elected President.

Clinton and Obama maintained relatively low-profiles, while the GOP launched their media offensive.

Clinton’s campaign, still reeling over the loss of longtime strategist Mark Penn, who resigned over conflicting interests Sunday, promoted a new proposal to spend $300 million tax dollars on breast cancer research and prevention. Her former president husband, Bill, campaigned on her behalf in Puerto Rico.

Obama’s schedule did not list any public events Monday.

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Amanda Carpenter is the author of “The Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy's Dossier on Hillary Clinton,” published in October 2006.
 
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The War, Petraeus and the Media
The media has been "all a twitter" over the latest uptick in violence in Iraq as a prelude to the visit to Congress by Gen. Petraeus. To think that this, regardless of whatever progress the general may report will not be focus is to be in serious self denial. As for the Dems politicizing his visit, it will be a major campaign event as the media hangs on every "hard line question" from the ranking party.

The irony is that President Bush is not going to significantly withdraw troops between now and when he leaves office. The next president is going to be in a position to have to make decisions based on the reality of the situation on the ground. Given this reality, the Dems had better be very careful in the type of incendiary rhetoric they spew, it could come back to hit them in the face.

Irony and Karma
Mrs Clinton inability to tell the truth and Obama's sorely lacking ANY experience will be highlighted with General Petraeus's testimony this week about the successes achieve by the Iraqis and our brave men and women serving abroad.

I must wonder - it is Barack's great judgement to sit in Pastor Wright's anti-american anti-semetic pews for 20 years yet not ONE time has he visited our soldiers in Iraq??

Integrity and Arrogance
I find it insulting, as a soldier, that anyone would impune the integrity of Gen. Petreus the way that Sen. Clinton did. We in the Army live by a very strict code, and integrity is central to it. It is unfortunately obvious that those in Congress do not live by a similar code.
The General has dedicated his life to serving his country. His experience and level of education woud guarantee him a multi-million dollar salary in any corpation. Instead he chooses to face danger and comparatively low pay in order to serve his country. This leads me into my second point.
How arrogant does one have to be to believe that, with no experience, they are more qualified to state the status of an unbelievably complex situation like a war than the man selected to command it. What experience in military strategy, organization, or culture do Hillary Clinton or Barrack Obama have? The answer is obvious. So, that having been said, what credibility or right do they have to blatantly say that Gen. Petreus, with his 30+ years of said experience, is lying to the people he has sworn to defend?

Look at his record, he has proven his integry...Have they?

Both Obama and Clinton detest
the US military, the most powerful and effective arm of goverment the world has ever seen.

Bill Clinton never learned to salute his Marine guards competently, men who were sworn to sacrfice their own lives for Bubba's.

Hillary used the Sec. Serv. and any one else to carry her luggage and open doors for her. Marines were just her baggage handlers.

Obama is simply void of knowledge of the military. He constantly attacks NAFTA, but we know he has sent people to assure Canada he didn't mean what he says.

He has done the same thing with Iraq. He's telling the Pentagon he knows abrupt withdrawal from a battlefield is not safe or possible. But he lies constantly to his leftist base about his immediate pacificism as a national policy.

The left revealed its onus with the moveon.org travesty on Petraeus last Sept., even calling the volunteer army "mercenaries."

I hope to heaven the nation is smarter than either Obama or Clinton and will not let either within spitting distance of the White House next Nov.

And while I'm at it, McCain and the RNC need money to counter the ferocious lefty attack machines and propaganda. If you don't want higher taxes, Al Gore telling you when to put gas in your tank, and terrorist explosions on a regular basis, send some money in the direction you want to win.

brad
Thanks for your service, from a Navy Mom (now vets) and grandmom (current). Good points, you aren't alone in your resentment. These nincompoops who deem themselves to be soooo
superior to the peasantry and the military are mostly the detritus of the H..no we won't go
thugs of the Vietnam era. They have no ethics, integrity or honor yet they fix themselves so
they are seated on petty thrones (outhouse style would be more in keeping with their patriotism)
above the witnesses. That's a psych ploy to make the witnesses feel insignificant. In reality they are useful idiots now as when they were young anti war radicals.
Hiliary is a product of the 60's/70's antiwar left, she's not changed, just following Saul Alinsky's roadmap, Obama, well he won't salute
the flag, or wear the symbol on his lapel and
sits under the preaching of a hate mongering
anti American bigot and is friends with a homegrown terrorist named Bill Ayers of Weatherman fame. They are beneath contempt.

renny
"the US military, the most powerful and effective arm of goverment [sic] the world has ever seen."

Do you really believe this? If so, what does this say about the strength and power of the dead-enders over there that we're fighting? Pretty powerful group.

Fact is, despite the power of the US military, it was/is not designed to police a country the size of Iraq indefinitely.

"If you don't want higher taxes, Al Gore telling you when to put gas in your tank, and terrorist explosions on a regular basis, send some money in the direction you want to win."

The politics of fear in action. "Vote (and donate) for X or you and you're family will die!"

And what does the GOP
think it will be doing? This is the usual conservagtive "double speak." i.e., "They spout propaganda but we spout the "truth." Does the GOP think anybody is still going to fall for that?

That's the reason that McCain will lose. The American public has finally gotten wise to the GOP doublespeak.

Warning the dems
Warning the dems, especially Clinton and Obama, not to criticize GEN Petraeus and his testimony about the war in Iraq is like warning a dog not to pee on the fire hydrant. It's just what they naturally do. Except the dog is more honorable...

Armed Services Committee Hearings.
Why else would the Democrats hold hearings in a national election year, if it were not for political profiling. They are truly "Jackasses". The comical picture of a Jackass fits every Democrat alive.

General Petreus
" It is not titles that reflect honor on men,but men on their titles." General Petreus continues to do a differcult job under trying conditions; the Democrats will be careful, which they really have to be considering the way this man has performed. Least I forget, Macheiavelli wrote the quote,which suits the forum which the good general will find himself in on Wedsday!

Be prepared folks
For weeks now posters have beat their breast screaming bloody murder over Obama's 20 year association with Wright.

Well, over the next few months Dems will be hi-lite the the 20 year association of the Iraqi leaders with Iran and the Quds force.

Further, McCain has intentionally associated his campaign with this inept and murderous regime.

No amount of denial will protect him.

A little too late...
Too late for that! The GOP made sure that the war was a political tool when they attacked anyone who dared to question this failed President.

No bronzed men on horseback
So the implication of Sen. McCain's request is that only Democrats will be tempted to politicize Petraeus and Crocker's appearance? Yeah, right. The Repubican strategy on such matters has been clear for some time. Treat Petraeus as if is the reincarnation of all the great generals from American history wrapped into one, and ignore the fact that political reconciliation---the stated goal of the surge when it began---is still as elusive as ever.

The willingness of people commenting here to treat a general with a reverence approaching worship is deeply disturbing---something reminiscent of a banana republic or worse. Gen. Petraeus works for us, and our congressional representatives have every right to hold him to account. Of course they should also treat him respectfully and give him credit where credit is due. But the last thing we need is a military figure beyond criticism.

Secret US plan for military future in Ir

Can we afford this plan? Will the American people support the plan?

The Guardian-A confidential draft agreement covering the future of US forces in Iraq, passed to the Guardian, shows that provision is being made for an open-ended military presence in the country.

The draft strategic framework agreement between the US and Iraqi governments, dated March 7 and marked “secret” and “sensitive”, is intended to replace the existing UN mandate and authorises the US to “conduct military operations in Iraq and to detain individuals when necessary for imperative reasons of security” without time limit.

The authorisation is described as “temporary” and the agreement says the US “does not desire permanent bases or a permanent military presence in Iraq”. But the absence of a time limit or restrictions on the US and other coalition forces - including the British - in the country means it is likely to be strongly opposed in Iraq and the US.

READ MORE

http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/secret-us-plan-for -military-future-in-iraq

Political reconciliation
Our war-fighters are men from whom impossible efforts are demanded and to whom all sorts of tricks are taught, but "political reconciliation" is not one of them. It is not the job of Generals nor Privates to attend to matters of "political reconciliation". Their job is to win wars. Diplomats reconcile, is such is possible. Don't confuse the issue by assigning a role to the military for which it was never intended or designed.

(For what it's worth, it dam* sure isn't the job of Congress to serve as field marshalls, either.)

In general...and a thing for Brad
Everyone realizes this IS a hearing, right? The military has it's own politics. Anyone who has served realizes this. But part of being a General or Admiral is a thing called Washington politics. You're the highest paid in service for a reason. You have to deal with morons. But it's a hearing. What do you expect congress men and women do? Sit and listen, then say, "kthxbye" In any circumstance, Patraeus himself is doing a great job. What I have a problem with is the things he can't control. Like the orders he's getting, the 800 million dollar funded do nothing private contractors has has to work alongside, and what the future is for me, and others, in Iraq.

We had ridiculous hearings on oil tycoons and steroids in baseball which have solved nothing, so maybe this one will be worth listening to. But ultimately, with a democrat congress, I doubt it.


I have a real problem with what brad writes. You want to talk experience? The president and vice president have four out of six years of obligatory service, and 5 draft deferments, BETWEEN THEM.

Democratic Criticism
I don't think either party can argue that it has any particular cure for this problem before they can size up the situation after taking office. On this issue alone, I'll trust McCain.

McCain actually served, comes from a family of those who have served with distinctio, and has sons who currently served. Obama has experience playing with GI Joes and maybe the board games Risk and Battleship.

Obama didn't have the courage to tell a foul-mouthed bully to set the record straight in a large church because he was scared to death to lose his local political support. I don't need cowardice like that in the White House. As some many Wright and Obama supporters have pronounced in the past three weeks about black liberation theology, Obama really "spoke truth to power." I'm laughing as I finish this--Obama is a coward of the highest order. And that's just the start of his weaknesses. Bring it on.

Caesar or???
While a coup d'etat might someday occur here, what I believe is more likely--not probable, simply more likely--is that a group of states will band together and decide they've had enough of the tripe that spews from Washington, DC, and reopen the question of secession.

Ours is a voluntary union, albeit one which is less appealing by the day. While some think the secession issue was settled by the War Between the States, it wasn't. Secession was legal; Lincoln triumphed over right with might. Economic, political and military power was centered northward then; now that region is charitably known as the "rust belt". Power has moved south and west. Excepting the Pacific coast states, southern and western states revere freedom. Is secession in the cards? Not this year nor the next. Next decade? Who knows? It will take just one major incident, one outrage, by the mau mauing satraps in DC to spark a conflagration that will in all likelihood have a dim outcome for those with the "entitlement" mentality.

wHAT GETS ME
It is so easy to be a critic on what is and has happened in Iraq. As a Iraqi war veteran, while we are back in the US most of our citizens seem to forget 9/11. I still am proud of alot of young people who joined the military and have a clue what is going on in the world and want it is to defend our country, while others just want to stick their head in the sand and want to be a duck and run democrat. It is better to be fighting the Jihadist there than here. And if you think it won't happen again, better get your head out of the clouds and wake up, They want to kill you for just being an american!!!!!

Its
an election year....everything is political.

Lessons From Roman Empire
If wannabe Commands-in-Chiefs want to call senior military commanders 'liars" as Clinton did and Obama may decide to do, they should take a few lessons from history. Roman emperors often got into power stuggles with their military commanders. The result was usually that the military commanders became emperors.

While an actual coup is unlikely here, I wouldn't think anyone would want to undermine the troops they are want to lead. I'm reminded how they hated Bill Clinton, who couldn't even form a proper salute. Wonder how the military will vote this time?

PRE-EMPTIVE STRIKE

.....Asking a politician not to politicize is like asking a snake not to slither ...

.....Smart move on McCain's part ...asking Hillary and Obama not to do what he knows they must .....COLOSSUS

BOUTTE

.....The mistake we made in Vietnam is that we didn't bomb them soon enough or often enough ...the missile that took down McCains plane was installed by Russian technicians with LBJ"s knowledge but he put the Russian missile sites off limits while they were being constructed ...but what else would you exspect from a Democrat boob in War? ...he didn't want to make the Russians mad so he sacrificed our own planes and pilots ...

.....We wouldn't need to be in Iraq if the Demo-boobs would allow us to develop our own fossil fuel reserves ...but since our own oil is "off limits" we have to go to war in the Middle East to protect their oil reserves so that we don't run out ...

.....Can you say stupid? ...both the Democrats and the boobs who vote for them .....COLOSSUS

Boutte
against our founding fathers?

You do know there is something called the Monroe doctrine...read up on it.
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