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Friday, March 28, 2008
Amanda Carpenter :: Townhall.com Columnist
Obama Keeps Defending Wright
by Amanda Carpenter
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Leading Democratic presidential contender Barack Obama continued his defense of his controversial longtime pastor and friend Reverend Jeremiah Wright in a chat-fest with the ladies of The View Friday.

Obama said he rejects anti-American and racist comments Wright has said in sermons, but believes Wright is misunderstood. Obama described Wright as “a brilliant man who was still stuck in a time warp” and that he was “one of the best pastors” in Chicago on ABC’s daytime talk show.

Obama has said he was unaware Wright had said “goddamn America,” blamed the government for infecting the black population with AIDS or made other controversial statements in his sermons in a highly billed speech on race and religion and in other appearances.

Obama said Friday it was important to take Wright’s remarks “in context” and that those remarks only reflected “a snippet of a man.”

“I'm not vetting my pastor,” Obama explained. “I didn't have a research team during the course of 20 years to go pull every sermon he's given and see if there's something offensive that he's said.”

He also said he has spoken with Wright recently and feels “he’s [Wright] saddened by what happened.”

“I told him I feel badly he has been characterized in this one way and people haven’t seen the other aspects of him,” Obama said.

Earlier this week in Greensboro, North Carolina Obama blamed media for promoting the story. Obama said: “This is somebody who was preaching three sermons at least a week for 30 years. And got boiled down in the -- they found five or six of his most offensive statements, boiled that down into a half an hour sound clip -- or half minute sound clip and just played it over and over and over again.”

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Black Liberation theology
is narcissistic. Their believers (Wright, Barak and Michelle) are taught that they must see everything only from their own point of view. That is why their god must also see everything in "black" or he gets ditched or worse killed. They have that "old brand" of religion that says " I will exalt my throne above the stars of God". Isa 14:12
Boy, when people are overcome with bitterness and rage, they will buy into any foolishness that makes them feel better.

Worth Repeating
"Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him."

"The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community. . . ."

"Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy."

"What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love."

Jim Cone -
Union Theological Seminary, New York
================================
Rev. Wright credits Prof. Jim Cone with systematizing the principles of "Black Values System", the theology used by Rev. Wright in the Trinity United Church of Christ, the church the O'Blame-Ya's attend(ed) with their two children!

Week after week Barak & Michelle Obama forced their kids to absorb the racist rantings of his "mentor and spiritual advisor" Rev Wright (though now he denies ever describing Jerry as such)!

Does anyone really think O'Blame-Ya's kids think of Jeremiah as being "the crazy uncle" their father does? Or is it more likely they think the Reverend's words & behavior are normal?

So... at the same time he would have us believe he is the 'Post-Racial Uniter', Senator Barry O'Blame-Ya'll is responsible for exposing his two young children to the bigoted, racist and hateful rhetoric of 'uncle Jerry' & worse still he thinks we should allow him to make decisions for OUR CHILDREN when he can't even do the right thing by his own.

AND can anyone tell me - Where does the O'Blame-Ya family attend services now?

W/O=

ELIOT SPITZER VIDEO FUNNY
Check out this funny video on youtube. Dr. Phil comes to the rescue to cure Eliot Spitzer of his "issues". It's hilarious.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1iZH9MOEkk

DestinyBender
"Obama demeans President bush, John McCain and the Clintons claimint that they didn't know what was going on inside Saddam's closed police stat, (10,000 miles away) when he didn't know what was happening in the pew right next to him"
Good point.
Some people tend to sleep through some pastors sermons but given that Wright is such a loud mouth, if there were a Church cemetary next door, he'd wake the folks up that reside there between elections that is.
I'm sick of the excuses, only a few snippets, or out of context..G..curse America at the top of the psuedo pastors lungs says it all for me. Not only his contempt for the country the enriched him enough to buy land in an exclusive
subdivision, sell it back to the church and have a home built at the church's expense (tax savings I presume, like offshore accounts for the rich that want to tax us) but using God's name as a hate rant, actually taking His name in vain at the ALTAR for goodness sakes. And Obama
excuses this? I don't, there is no excuse.

Why is Obama running for Pres?
Barack Obama claims that he is uniquely qualified to “bring our country together” and that despite his lack of experience and relative youth, he has demonstrated superior “judgment”.

Obama has now acknowledged Reverend Jeremiah Wright, used incendiary language that widened the racial divide. Obama says of (his) fellow congregants that (their) anger is real; it is powerful; and that not understanding its roots, serves to widen the chasm between the races.

If Obama is really the Reconciler in Chief, why didn’t he change the hearts of Rev. Wright and his flock over the past 20 years? Everyone is asking what influence the good Reverend had on the candidate, but shouldn’t we be wondering why the very people Obama knew best, still hate America, the White Man and Israel?

With regard to the issue of judgment; Obama demeans President Bush, John McCain and the Clintons claiming that they didn’t know what was going on inside Saddam’s closed police state, (10,000 miles away) when he didn’t know what was happening in the pew right next to him.

I think that pretty well sums up the qualifications issue.




Leave Condi Out of This
Shame on you for lumping Condi in with Obama's ugly group. Condi has served the country extremely well, and she did it for ALL of us. She came from a poor, black background, and she's worked very hard to make something of herself. She's smart. She's trustworthy. She's a good example to all people who start off on the bottom rung of the ladder. She made it! Good for her!

Don't be a hater just because her American dream came true, and it's getting better and better for her.

splitting hairs
This should have give us a glimpse _ an aerial view _ into the politics of Obama. We can look for new uses of the “meaning of is IS”-politics we’ve grown to expect from the left.


Obama Justifying Wright
Obama does not explain why, if these are random misunderstood remarks by Wright, they are or were available on DVDs sold by the "church" as examples of their beliefs and Wright's preaching.

Liar, liar, pants on fire Obama.

Heavydoug- Deal Another Hand
I'm not trying to be insensative, really I'm not. I'm just pointing out that ALL Americans try to be self-sufficient; our pioneer nature makes us want to provide for ourselves. We pull ourselves up by our bootstraps whenever we fall, and although we fall again and again, we don't stay down. I am responsible for me. You are responsible for you. In my little corner in New Mexico lots of us start out poor; there aren't too many bluebloods around here except Richardson and movie stars in Santa Fe. We're ALL dealt crappy cards here; whites, native Americans, Hispanics, blacks, and every other color you want. We too busy trying to improve our family's quality of life to care about what color skin is. Who cares? I don't think America really cares that blacks are black...

We Have to Rally Again
Lots of liberal people are amazed that we, the Silent Majority, put President GB back in office for a second term. We KNEW we needed to put on our coats and go vote; we KNEW we needed to make sure Kerry wouldn't become the next POTUS. Imagine for a moment what our lives would now be like if we had let him win. Would we even still be a sovereign nation? Doubtful.

Lots of conservatives are sooooooooo disgusted with McCain; I can truly sympathize. Granted we have three full-fledged Democrats to choose from, which one can we entrust the power of POTUS to? Which one do we pick?

Republicans say it might be best to let the Democrats Hillary or Obama win so that after they've made a mess with their liberal and socialist agenda, the Democrat party will be the one to take the blame. McCain would give the GOP a black eye with liberal policies. That's not true.

There really are people out there who are trying to destroy our country and to kill us; they sincerely hate us and our way of life. If America is shipwrecked and on her knees, even for a little while, they'll certainly attack us full force. Like Jimmy Carter, Hillary and Obama think it's America's fault our enemies hate us. They'll go talk to our enemies and try to group hug.

We can't afford to let either one sit in the Oval Office- no way, no how. We need to rally folks; McCain is the only one we can entrust our lives to. Though our wallets though would be in jeopary with McCain and global warming, etc., McCain is our only logical option.

Who would Obama or Hillary appoint to the Supreme Court? This is serious Americans! These judges are appointed for LIFE and several seats are open. Our whole way of life and our futures are at stake here...

Obama's Sinister, evil intentions

Neither Obama, his wife and their Mentor Pastor Wright is a Colin Powell, a Condi Rice, et al and neither is a citizen who cares about the USA.

When you go through Obama's life of associations, his cocaine use, Rezko, Nafta, etc. his early writings, early speeches there is a sinister pattern in his past that he is trying to cover up. Wife and Pastor Wright expose him when they speak.

Obama has one agenda:: that is to destroy this country in retaliation for slavery. He will make whitey pay and pay and pay.

It is obvious in his policies and his cleverly calculated con game. He knows that 35% of the USA population is illiterate and 45% gullible.
He has learned how to exploit to his advantage.

AND what they IMAGINE Bush says ??

MY

Racist, HATE America, Wright, Obama and wife
get a pass no matter how sinister and evil their "SPOKEN WORDS IN CONTEXT ARE".

HOWEVER, for 7 years, the democrats slashed, trashed, bashed Bush for things the democrats IMAGINED HE THOUGHT: OR fabricated and IMAGINED WHAT HE INTENDED TO SAY;


KEEP THE PERSPECTIVE

NO RADIO TALK SHOW HOST is running for
POTUS

so it is irrelevant what the entertainment media does or says, HOLLYWOOD is your best example.

ONLY INTELLIGENT people understand what it means to be the PRESIDENT OF THE USA

PROVEN LIARS like Hillary and Obama are not qualified and they are dangerous:

PROVEN RACISTS like Hillary and Obama are not qualified to be leaders of the greatest country in the world and in history:

OBAMA has a hate white America racist agenda that is obvious.
Hillary is a communist.

BOTH are the first candidates in history who want to move the citizens FROM WORK TO WELFARE


HOW "gullible" can people be ?

1. Birds of a feather:::::

2. Obama's meager charitable donations all went to WRIGHT

3. Wright is "SADDENED" ??? OH GIGGLE
that man has zero conscious. He is a hate monger, a racist, an opportunist and so is Obama and wife. It would take days to point out how demented and dangerous their viewpoints are.

4. READ everything Obama and wife have written
and every word they have spoken.
Read everything Wright has written and every word he has spoken.

They are the most dangerous trio in America.
Silver tongues who know how to exploit the most illiterate in this society.

Beware the fox in a sheeps coat:

Bob
Rush has put the five or six worst rants by the pretend-pastor together and will play them as one rant.Check him out.I heard it last week.Damning to the max.

got boiled down?
Obama: "This is somebody who was preaching three sermons at least a week for 30 years. And got boiled down in the -- they found five or six of his most offensive statements."

Please, those where 5-6 of pretty damning minutes. If I said 5 seconds of that in my entire life, I would be ashamed of myself.

The fact that Obama is trivializing it means that he has absolutely no concept of what it means to be an American.

heavydoug
heavydoug wrote:
"Dude, he is not a speratist Or a racist."

Wright is a separatist. I agree that he is not a speratist.

Ity is painful to watch defenders of
Barak Obama tying themselves into knots trying to evade the obvious. Dr. Thomas Sowell

heavydoug
Print out all of the conservative posts in this thread.

Put on your very best tin foil hat - not one that has been used a lot.

Take a large paper bag and breath into it for awhile.

Then lay on the floor - turn your flashlight on and hold it up to your ear - hold the copies you printed against the other ear.

When you are calmed down - get up and shout "I am free".


Brickhouse
Doesn't know how heavy I am.

These issues take on Lib/cons or dem/repub or black/white but that is not really it about at all.

This pointless anger is on the other side too.

This is the anger of the masses. The ones in that bottom rung of achievement. Some financial, some personal.(larry craig, elliot spitzer, both had that meaness)

This is people's frustration.

Because if you're happy and sucessful it's not going to matter if you're a dem/repub or black/white you would just be into your life.


Playing the cards life dealt you.



But what do people do when they think their cards suck?



Blame it on another group.



A classic case of misplaced aggression.

I love cool white people!
Yes, heavydoug

My white friends are Doctors and Engineers and they are the coolest people on this planet.

They are what make America Great and Good.

Brickhouse
...think we could see a check stub? $250,000,wow!

Don't Lump Heavydoug
Don't lump all Republicans in with Dixie. That's sterotyping. Hard-working Americans, Republicans, Democrats, and Independants want everyone to have to work as hard as they do. By the way, congratulation on earning 250K a year, that shows us poor folk of all colors that our dreams are possible too.

The slaves were freed. Some of them went on to prosper in society, and some of them remained behind on Massa's front porch. And some of them, generations later, are still on Massa's porch (AKA "the government"). No one in American society is oppressing blacks, except the black's mentality themselves.

Throw loose the chains already- Go out into society and accomplish something for yourselves! You're free to do that! Heavydoug did it! Obama did it! You can too! End the pity party already.

Dixiecrat=Republican
Dixie you have put your finger on a very telling point about these Repubs.

When you wrote:


Dixiecrat=Republican writes: Saturday, March, 29, 2008 7:56 PM


" All cathering to the victim hood of the Majority (The TRUE LOSERS of the world).
You people do the have the brain power to capitalize off the privilege of being white in America. Most of you are over 35 years old and make under $70,000 a year. How sad. Capitalist Pig wannabe's that are not smart enough to be capitalist. So you Hate. Let me add onto your hatred: I'm a 28 year old black male that makes over $250,000 a year, Legally."


Very interesting.


The coolest white guys, heck, the coolest people... are the ones who have confidence in themselves and who have acheived something.


I am older, but I've been sucessful financially, and in other areas. (my sons, etc.)

It never dawned on me what I would be like if I felt like I never made it!

I'd just might be as mad as some of the voices I've heard on townhall.


This is an epiphany.


That's why they blame welfare, illegal immigrants, liberals, they don't want to blame themselves.


Oh, wow.


Now that is Heavy.



America-Hating Racebaiter
The pretend-pastor is a race-baiting-anti-American.There,I said it.I believe it.I have proof.What do you want to do about it?

Isn't amazing...
...how lies just roll right off his tongue like it's the truth? Reminds me of someone...I don't know...wait, oh yeah Hillary!!!

lilly
I'm not going to defend the house thing.

Wright has to search his own sole if it is justified.

My point is he's not some American-hating racebaiter.

He's got a lifetime of service to that church and community and is retiring.

You make the call.

America is Great, But Not Good
Just another misguided country ran by evil men.
These evil men are good at given their citizens something to hate/fear (the best way to control idiots).

Nazi Germany had Joseph Goebbels. The USA have Right-wing radio, Fox News, Townhall, and the Drudge report. All cathering to the victim hood of the Majority (The TRUE LOSERS of the world).
You people do NOT have the brain power to capitalize off the privilege of being white in America. Most of you are over 35 years old and make under $70,000 a year. How sad. Capitalist Pig wannabe's that are not smart enough to be capitalist. So you Hate. Let me add onto your hatred: I'm a 28 year old black male that makes over $250,000 a year, Legally. And I think this country is not a GOOD country; great, but not good. There is a big difference. Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union were both great nations, but not moral nations.

To heavydoug
Many have spoken on TV and have written in newspapers and online to say that Jeremiah Wright's rhetoric is not unusual in the black church. BTW the Trinity congregation is rewarding Wright (on the occasion of his retirement) with a $1 million >10,000 square foot home which is being built and is nearly completed. Brick, gorgeous. A gift from the church. Google the story (with pictures) on either chicagosuntimes or chicago tribune today. Such a lavish gift would not be usual in any white church I have ever been associated with, when community needs are so great, but apparently it's not unusual in the black church. Different culture. So your question "is it normal" can't be answered. Highly abnormal in a predominantly white Lutheran or Catholic church. Apparently quite normal in a black shoutin' church.

Remember too that several black preachers have written on townhall against hate speech legislation so they could keep preaching with hate-filled rhetoric against homosexuals.

America is Great, But Not Good
Just another misguided country ran by evil men.
These evil men are good at given their citizens something to hate/fear (the best way to control idiots).

Nazi Germany had Joseph Goebbels. The USA have Right-wing radio, Fox News, Townhall, and the Drudge report. All cathering to the victim hood of the Majority (The TRUE LOSERS of the world).
You people do the have the brain power to capitalize off the privilege of being white in America. Most of you are over 35 years old and make under $70,000 a year. How sad. Capitalist Pig wannabe's that are not smart enough to be capitalist. So you Hate. Let me add onto your hatred: I'm a 28 year old black male that makes over $250,000 a year, Legally. And I think this country is not a GOOD country; great, but not good. There is a big difference. Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union were both great nations, but not moral nations.

ex-Wyomingite
Get over it or not.

It's your choice if you want to be stunted and stuck on a point that has been vetted to the Nth degree.

Dude, he is not a speratist Or a racist.

Plus, beyond that he is not Barack Obama.

Sorry to take your victim card.

JBob says:
"MDogg and his ilk want to excuse inciting violence (which Rev Wright is clearly doing)..."

Wright has never incited violence. Pretty soon he'll be accused of genocide...or maybe being a vampire or space man or maybe a ghost...

Your first compliment
Carlos writes: Saturday, March, 29, 2008 6:49 PM
Retired Geek...
Retired Geek writes: "Carlos makes excellent points".

Thank You! I must credit Townhall Article Authors and the many bright commenters for my much improved intelligence. Where else can one learn so much truth?

Gotta love this site! It stole my "victimhood".





Golly! Keep it up you'll earn your neocon de-coder ring.

heavydoug...

The answer is...

African-Americans calling themselves Republicans ...are least likely to be found in a prison, and most likely to be wealthier than not only their Democrat counterparts, but "Whites" as well.

Also, African-American children of 2-parent families, attending mostly "White" schools... are most likely to be found at the head of their class.

Exactly why do Blacks feel inferior?

Answer: Liberals want it that way.


Let's face it
TH posters exchange their own special truths - we all know Obama is meeting in a secret cellar with Islamo-fascist racists and methodist, non-fundamental preachers to plan the end of America and the rest of western civilization.

Why do you all beat around the bush? Just come out and say what you're actually thinking.

ex-Wyomingite
All ministers are crazier than a bag of cats.


His actions and church congregation's has shown nothing but what churches known for. Helping the poor and praising Jesus.


He's got a new big house in the middle of a white neighborhood.

He's not a seperatist. Matter of fact Barack just told a story how married a mixed-race couple.

He's a nice guy that got carried away.



Get over it.

Retired Geek...
Retired Geek writes: "Carlos makes excellent points".

Thank You! I must credit Townhall Article Authors and the many bright commenters for my much improved intelligence. Where else can one learn so much truth?

Gotta love this site! It stole my "victimhood".

Frederick Douglas about REAL patriotism
"A true patriot is a lover of his country who rebukes and does not excuse its sins".

To all the so called flag waving, neocons who have been bashing Rev.Wright. We can love our country but still speak of the ills we have done and continue to do. NOT speaking out and wanting our country to not do better is truly not being unamerican. As an American I am ashamed by the evils we have done to fellow citizens. Yep, I am an American.

The Jist of It
MDogg and his ilk want to excuse inciting violence (which Rev Wright is clearly doing) by saying that no violence has occurred, such as that done by the Germans against the Jews, etc. Who can prove that? Which of their members have taken something not their own and "excused" it by having gotten even with a rich whitey? Which ones have "popped" a whitey walking down the street late at night and picked him clean because it's "our time" to get back at whitey's system? We don't know, do we. It could be zero or it could be many. The fact is, hate speech eventually leads to these acts.
If BO will not address each of these comments made by the Rev one by one and refute or state his adherence to them, then we don't know where he really stands. If he does, then we'll know where he really stands as well but no one will like it except the hate America lib crowd.

Carlos
The Phrase "Johnny one note", comes to mind.

heavydoug...

One of the problems these kids face "out of school" is the City's lack of jobs.

The problem again is that Liberalism doesn't create jobs either.

Liberal-Democrat trial lawyers have chased every business out of Detroit with repeated lawsuits. Liberal-Democrat judges routinely free dangerous ciminals, and refuse to lock up mentally insane people. Liberal-Democrat Unions block the firing of drunk, drug addicted, and felonious employees. The Liberal-Democrat Mayor just had 12 charges leveled against him.

And what about those 8-10% of African-Americans who call themselves Republicans? How well do they compete against African-Americans calling themselves Democrats?

Any Ideas?

Savage99
Huh?

ex-Wyomingite
Chicago is full of White Black ministers from around the country supporting Wright.

By now everyone has watched the full sermon and regret Wright got creamed by the Media.

Have you watched Fox news today?


Obama's polling as high as ever.

heavydoug
I've pretty much said anything i have to say, but yours of 3:29 is too much. You accuse Carlos of race-baiting. Check your six, Sir. You have one-way vision.

Carlos makes excellent points
I have just read every post here again including mine.

Carlos has made the most sense and pointed to the real issues facing America more than anyone including myself.

Those who are really interested in solving the issues and not just interested in "my daddy can beat your daddy rhetoric" - should click 'edit' and then click 'find on this page' and enter carlos and read all of them.

Carlos
Those young men have problems out of school Carlos.

It doesn't matter what kind of school or school system.

Or who the president is.

Some problems aren't voted away.

Stop trying reduce everything to lib/con or dem/repub.

You are making a conclusion then trying to talk the facts in to fit your conclusion.

Keep an open mind. Look carefully, and tell the truth, then the facts will be on your side.


That is one of Heavy's secrets.

sans pariel
Some of these leftist bigots remind me the pop-up dolls.You knock them down with with the truth and they just pop right up again,ready for another knock-down.They have a ready answer for everything,no matter how ridiculous it is.


Any person who is not a citizen of Africa and is a citizen of this country is NOT African-American.If they have dual citizenship,then that is different.They can call themselves that,but it does not make it true.The way some people sound on these posts,they may as well drop the "American"part.

heavydoug...

My conclusion is... Democrats chase votes. They could care less about a poor guys plight; White, Brown, or Black.

In Detroit, most young Black men graduate High School without the ability to type a comment on Townhall. These kids are equally as likely to go to prison as they are to land a job. Those Union teachers haven't missed their paycheck though?

You must live in a nice neighborhood. I see Liberal destruction firsthand here.

Denial is not a river in Egypt
sans pareil
Is a liar.

This is what you said:



Week after week Barak & Michelle Obama forced their kids to absorb the racist rantings of his "mentor and spiritual advisor" Rev Wright (though now he denies ever describing Jerry as such)!
Does anyone really think O'Blame-Ya's kids think of Jeremiah as being "the crazy uncle" their father does? Or is it more likely they think the Reverend's words & behavior are normal?




Here is the prooof you lied about the nature of that church.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anpI-BKp5cg



In the ocean of reality you clutch to racism like a life preserver.

Let it go.

A Reminder
"Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him."

"The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community. . . ."

"Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy."

"What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love."

Jim Cone -
Union Theological Seminary, New York
================================
Rev. Wright credits Prof. Jim Cone with systematizing the principles of "Black Values System", the theology being used by Rev. Wright in the Trinity United Church of Christ, the church the O'Blame-Ya's attend(ed) with their two children every Sunday!

Week after week Barak & Michelle Obama forced their kids to absorb the racist rantings of his "mentor and spiritual advisor" Rev Wright (though now he denies ever describing Jerry as such)!
Does anyone really think O'Blame-Ya's kids think of Jeremiah as being "the crazy uncle" their father does? Or is it more likely they think the Reverend's words & behavior are normal?

So... at the same time he would have us believe he is the 'Post-Racial Uniter', Senator Barry O'Blame-Ya'll is responsible for exposing his two young children to the bigoted, racist and hateful rhetoric of 'uncle Jerry' & worse still he thinks we should allow him to make decisions for OUR CHILDREN when he can't even do the right thing by his own.

W/O=

More proof...
that Dems DON'T REALLY THINK BEING A RACIST OR A BIGOT IS A BAD THING.

Just read some of the posts from many of the Dem-Libs on these threads.

W/O=

Ace
Though your solution to end the 'controversy' is a good idea


Your 'punishment' is off base for either man...

For Dr Wright to be "sentenced to live in Africa for the remainder of his life" tears at the very fabric that makes this the Greatest Nation on the planet. Jerry is 'free' to express himself and though people might disagree with him too many have died to insure the Mad Doctor's right to say whatever he likes, within reason. Yelling FIRE in a crowded theatre IS against the law but nothing Barry's mentor has said is unlawful (not yet that we know of anyway).

As for "Sen/Could Have Been" president O'Blame-Ya only his Democratic constituency can "banish (him) from public office for the remainder of his life" and if they do so for his "exercising such poor judgment" would be a shame.
Doing it because his own belief system mimics (IF it does) that of his self-described "spiritual advisor" (something he now denies saying) would be better.

BUT don't get your hopes up or hold your breath waiting for THAT to happen...Barry is on the cusp of becoming a 'heroe & martyr' to his constituency, win or lose the presidential race.
One need only look at that other Great Democratic Party Leader, Sen. Robert 'KKK' Byrd of W.Va to see the Dems DON'T REALLY THINK BEING A RACIST OR A BIGOT IS A BAD THING.

Aside from anything else O'Blame-Ya's "never doing anything to stop Wright's hate-filled, anti-American, insane rants" isn't really the issue...just walking out never to return would have spoken volumes about the man who would be king or King Jr for that matter.
Staying seated for 20 years AND then exposing his children to those rants also speaks volumes...and I have heard enough to know he isn't the right man for the job he seeks.

W/O=

Carlos
First you wrote:



Carlos writes: Friday, March, 28, 2008 10:44 PM
Where is "Black America" Going ???

"Black America" is steadily disappearing before my brown eyes.

The Murder, Infant mortality, and life-expectancy rates for "Blacks" dwarfs that of other races. Abortion rates that also dwarf other nationalities. These are bad signs on their own.

Add the fact that the "Typical Black Mother" births about half the children that her mother did. And "Inter-racial" marriages are an increasing and well accepted trend for "Black" mothers.

The steady drop in the classic "Black American" population is accelerating in my opinion. A few more generations and "African blood" will mean little more than what "Swedish blood" means. Very little.

Farewell Reverend Wright. You are a Dinosaur.




Then you wrote:






Carlos writes: Saturday, March, 29, 2008 10:49 AM
The Fall of Black America...

African-Americans are a shrinking percentage of U.S. population.

2006 census numbers place African-Americans at 12.8% of the US population. Latinos have passed African-Americans at 14.8% of the population.

There's a problem. When Obama is President, he intends give Amnesty to 20 Million Mexicans. This influx of new citizens will most likely drop the percentage of African-Americans to "Below 10%" of the US population. And Latinos will become "Over 20%" of the US population.

Latinos will have "Twice" the voting power and influence of African-Americans in short order.

Conclusions?


My conclusion is you are race baiting between latins and blacks.


Their is something troubling here.


The demise of black people won't fill your hollowed out heart, Carlos.

You are the first spanish nazi in history.



Please don't breed.




Ace
Sermons unedited.


http://youtube.com/watch?v=QOdlnzkeoyQ


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anpI-BKp5cg


Ask and you shall receive.

heavydoug ...
heavydoug writes: "I am telling you race problems in America are far deeper Liberal/Conservative issues."

Actually, the race problems are deeper in the Balkans than Anywhere in America.

Looking at my African-American co-workers... I really don't see a big problem? Blacks and Whites hang-out, flirt, date, and marry.

The leaders seem to be beholding of "Problems". Us little people have gotten along for decades. Millions of Blacks and Whites work and live together without issue.

Democrats don't want us to know it's okay.

Wright's sermons for all to hear
I am a Christian and I would not hesitate to point anyone to our church's website to listen to my pastor's sermon's...in their entirety and unedited.

WHY DOESN'T PASTOR WRIGHT'S CHURCH DO THE SAME???

They could take the very sermon's where the snippet's came from, and post them on Wright's church's website where we could all go and hear for ourselves the real sermons...in their entirety and unedited. That way we could judge for ourselves who is telling the truth---the media or Barack Obama. Problem solved!

If the snippets were indeed taken out of context and were found to be innocent comments when heard IN CONTEXT, then Barack Obama could gleefully demand an apology from the media to him and his Pastor and then Barack Obama could be crowned POTUS.

If however, the comments were indeed anti-American, what should be Wright's punishment for his traitorous, racist, bigoted and treasonous preachings? Maybe he should be sentenced to live in Africa for the remainder of his life. And what about Obama? Maybe he should be banished from public office for the remainder of his life for exercising such poor judgment by sitting in a church for 20 years and never doing anything to stop Wright's hate-filled, anti-American, insane rants.

What do you say Mr. Obama? Mr. Wright? How about letting us hear the real deal IN CONTEXT!


Sunthe1
Standby for escalation to lapel pins and dare we hope....saying the pledge of allegiance?

Black folks have a legitimate gripe that few white people have any idea of what's in their hearts. They don't stop to consider that door swings both ways. Obama, used to uncritical smiles and PC Harvard sycophants, miscalculated the reaction of Joe Q Public to his association with Wright. His early "loyalty" just compounded the problem. Neither he nor his wife anticipated the impact of statements like "never been proud" and "typical white person". Anything he says now will be inspected with a jaundiced eye, just as the conservative mouthings of McCain come too little and too late to counterbalance the record.

scottK
Sorry Scott, I was just trying to take it down a notch.

But again, you put yourself up as having the solutions to all problems great and small.


You are the authority on black people.

Listen to how arrogant you sound, man.

I that word "liberalism" is your boogeyman and is the force behind everything evil.

I am telling you race problems in America are far deeper Liberal/Conservative issues.

Deeper.

Savage99
You wrote "We can expect sweetness and light from Wright and Obama at least until Novemeber"

Correct. And lots of flags. BIG flags.

heavydoug
"by the looks of this blob er blog, looks like the folks that have truly been victimized by this racism scandal...Slavery is pretty slippery...it enslaves the master as well as the servant and the mind as well as the vessel."

Blacks are only slaves in their own minds. Every other race, and blacks who have seen the light, have taken advantage of the present and all the opportunities this great country has to offer. As much as I despise illegal aliens, I credit them for not looking at their poverty past and embarking on the American dream, something blacks as a whole have failed to do, even after almost 50 years of preferential treatment. You can continue to waddle in racial pity all you like, while the rest of us move on to a better life.

heavydoug, 2:20 PM post.

Sorry, bro... but what you put forth is not love.
And neither did Rev. Wright. And x-man is full of anger, mostly unjustified. And liberalism is just killing the black community.

And you, tragically, refuse to see it.

And I would never call you Dougie.

And I still wish you everything good that you are willing to work for.


heavydoug ...

Of course I'm concerned about the state of African-Americans.

And from my eyes...

Liberalism has killed/murdered more African-Americans than all those who died in every War ever fought by this Nation.

Liberalism is a disease. A thought process contrived by persons absent of Empathy, and devoid of Love.

Liberal = Unloved Child


scotty baby
I can assure you I don't hate.

someone else wrote this:

X-man writes: Saturday, March, 29, 2008 1:24 PM
And Pharoah drowns in the Nile..
So....by the looks of this blob er blog, looks like the folks that have truly been victimized by this racism scandal are all you republican voting, bible toting, saintly sanctimonius epistolary warriors who have expressed outrage at said victimization in this wonderful little forum. Heavydoug put up a good fight, assailed you with reason and pummeled you with truth but hey, you outnumbered him yea, you verily outdumbed him. So, you write the history, you elect the government, you divvy the spoils and you accept the consequences. Slavery is pretty slippery...it enslaves the master as well as the servant and the mind as well as the vessel. It's an equal opportunity offender and ending it isn't so simple us unlocking the physical shackles.





Love isn't always easy to recognize Scott.

Obama's second senate term
Both Hillary and Obama will be senators next year. Their boss may be or may not be Harry Reid. All this Wright controversy won't hurt Obama in the primaries. His Kool-Aid drinking followers will go off the cliff with him. However, November will be a different story. It will be Obama's Wright baggage versus McCain's pro-illegal alien baggage. In the end, it will come down to the lesser of two evils. Both candidats really stink. The bottom line will be more voters will hold their noses and vote for McCain than people who will hold their noses and vote for Obama. Democrats, you have no to blame but yourself. All America wanted was an acceptable candidate to clean up the Bush mess. Instead, you gave us the most liberal person in the Senate. How stupid is that?

Obama is a fraud and a liar
The Dems. have two gems: both 19th C. socialists, both anti-military and anti=defense, and both poseurs and liars.

What a wonderful choice.

Obama
The Marxist/one world gov Obama wants to give our sovereignty to the UN and allow them to impose taxes on us. Read the following.

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/PhyllisSchlafly/2008/02/ 25/congress_contemplates_giving_cash_to_foreigners

Obama wants to go after money in foreign banks.

Even American leaders are taking note. Senator Carl Levin, Democrat of Michigan, has announced his own inquiry into tax evasion by Americans in Liechtenstein, and both he and Senator Barack Obama are pushing legislation that would give the federal government new powers to track down money in Switzerland and elsewhere.


PT March 29, 6:17 AM post.

Bulls eye. Spot on. 5 stars.

Yes, WHY does the black community still flock to and support the very people whose policies have hurt... and will continue to hurt them the most?

Totally valid question. Yes, why???

Tragic. They really deserve better.

Also, I bet that heavydoug and proud liberal are about to be real buds... since personal responsibility is "out".

When will those two finally see that hatred never solved anything.

And Rev. Wright... shame on you!!!


Wright..The Pretend-Pastor
As I wrote on another thread,I believe all this noise about Wright's horrific rantings is just a smokescreen to hide what is really important about this candidate.

When some of his best friends are Muslims,that is a problem,to me.If I was running for office and I hung out with Louis Farrakhan,Mousa Abu Marzook,etc.,that would be important to investigate.His other friends,the terrorist,Ayers,plus Rezco is troubling.

I think Wright's ranting is bad enough,but they are all friends.How can Obama explain this and why is nobody forcing him to try? If the love affair doesn't end soon,so he can be REALLY be vetted,it may be too late.We have to know where his allegances lie.December will be too late.


HEADLINE:


JERAMIAH WRIGHT HAS MANSION IN WHITE NEIGHBORHOOD!

Thus disproving all "black seperatist" allegations.


Repubs scramble to find way to blame Obama!







Ever feel like some mornings, it's not worth chewing through the leather restraints?


.

What the "View" really is
is a daily network liberal hencluck with a conservative pinata called Elizabeth to beat on.

-Ray

Arnston
Going outside today with all the Glo-Bull warming going on and the high temps of 34 degrees today (wind chill brings it down to 22) makes the climate-controlled heat of the petri dish a preferable alternative.
Too much winter already...waiting & waiting & waiting for golf season to begin here in the Northeast. THEN THE PETRI DISH CAN EXPLODE FOR ALL I'LL CARE.

W/O=

WHAT ARE THE ODDS
That Tony Rezco(?) will have SOMETHING to do with Jerry Wright's mansion deal?

When the trial gets moving we are sure to find out a few (or more) things Clinton or McCain can use as ammo against Barry The Empty Suit.

I'll bet the Dems are hoping Tony doesn't use too many delaying tactics during the trial, they are praying to get it ALL out there ASAP because in the worst case scenario they could be faced with the unthinkable...an indicted sitting president!!
After all, "I wasn't aware..." only works for so long & in so many places.

Of course, Chicago has an irrefutable reputation when it comes to politics & criminal activity this is probably just a Conservative pipe-dream...but there's always hope (and audacity).
W/O=

You guys should
get up from your computers, walk outdoors, talk to people at your local restaurant, tavern, grocery store, park.

what you will find is, nobody cares. TH is hardly the voice of america, it's more of a little petri dish that needs controlled light and heat in order to grow.

However, Democrats like it when you keep talking about our candidates and ignoring McCain.

Massachusetts Libs Elected
O'Blame-Ya's buddy Deval Patrick (you may remember him - the two "shared" speeches and SLOGANS) as their Governor last time around on the ol' "Yes We Can" & "Time For A Change" slogans that Barry must have figured worked so well for Patrick he too would give it a whirl!!

Now even the Libs are having 'voters remorse' as the FRONT PAGE of the NYT pointed out this week (Thurs?), Massachusetts is a MESS (worse than usual if you can picture that).
We still have yet to pay the snow-plow drivers for their efforts this year...not one pothole has gotten filled, etc. And all the while Patrick is dreaming up & instituting new taxes to make up the budget shortfall.

Because we had a 2 Billion Dollar surplus under Mitt Romney, Mitt began dismantling toll booths along the Mass Pike...not 30 days after his inauguration Patrick and his team couldn't seem to find the 2 Billion(???), so not only did they stop the tearing down of the toll booths on a road that as Mitt said "had paid for itself many times over" (the original intent), they proposed ADDING tolls along route 93 leading to NH...some say to get the last dime possible from those fleeing the state.

Patrick received absolutely no scrutiny from the press and his "lack of experience" was touted as a plus by the Boston Globe (a wholly owned subsidiary of the NYT)...
Does THAT sound familiar to anyone?

We should all hope the country doesn't suffer from a case of voter remorse next January.

W/O=

sans pareil
1)You can't prove a negative.



2)They are just snippets. I guess everyones seen the complete sermons but you.

3) You lied.

sans pareil
Is a liar.

This is what you said:



Week after week Barak & Michelle Obama forced their kids to absorb the racist rantings of his "mentor and spiritual advisor" Rev Wright (though now he denies ever describing Jerry as such)!
Does anyone really think O'Blame-Ya's kids think of Jeremiah as being "the crazy uncle" their father does? Or is it more likely they think the Reverend's words & behavior are normal?




Here is the prooof you lied about the nature of that church.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anpI-BKp5cg



In the ocean of reality you clutch to racism like a life preserver.

Let it go.

shak'n it here boss
ok barak, if this is only a snippet and you think that there cannot be a 20 year vetting of sermons, find 12 sermons at random and vet those.

Jeremiah was my pastor -20 years-
He was a good friend of mine -uncle-
I never understood a single word he said -convenient-
but i helped him drink his wine -Koolaid-

No barak, we are not stupid.

adios
Harvey
Lancaster, Mexifornia
dial 1 for english

Someone posted Wright has
appeared to a standing ovation at another Chicago church. His benediction and comments were reportedly totally non-political. We can expect sweetness and light from Wright and Obama at least until Novemeber. Any one who believes this obvious garbage deserves the results.

proud liberal
20 years of attending and paying 90% of your charitable contributions to a church that preaches pure hatred of whitey but not responsible any racial animus in this country. I guess my wondering about such things makes me "atypical white."

I base my supposition on
The postings yyou Doug wrote on previous Amanda Carpenter (and other) threads where after reading a post I put out that may have given you the impressioon that because I lived in Roxbury (a predominately black section of Boston) & had black, as well as African-American friends you thought and wrote "you sound like a reasonable man"...
Yet in response to another posting where it now appeared that I was white (or at least in your tiny mind an oreo or Uncle Tom) you suddenly turned on me, claiming falsely that you had previously said of me that "I was neither clever nor funny". Words you had never used.

So I will never alter my opinion of your racist being.

Don't bother answering if you expect a response from me...I don't converse with racists & liars!(write all you want about me though...with you as the 'thinker behind the posts it should be a hoot)

W/O=

Wright's Latest Storm Part II
Of course "(Jesus') enemies had their opinion about Him," everybody enemies has an opinion of them. Rev. Wright this wrote this in a eulogy of the late scholar Asa Hilliard in the November/December 2007 that was issue, according to CNSNews.com. Hilliard had many scholars who disagreed with him for his extreme was Afrocentric approach to scholarship. Other scholars were the enemies of Asa Hillard, and they had their opinion of his work. These same critics of Obama and Wright have not read any of the writings of Asa Hillard. Forgive me, but I do not know, if any, the political agenda of the CNSNews.com

Next, in the Trumpet Newsmagazine, of which Wright is the chief executive officer he was addressing the execution of Jesus by the Romans when he made the comment "public lynching Italian style." Hence, Christ’s death, like a public lynching, serves a multiplicity purposes for a community. Finally, when he said, "The Italians for the most part looked down their garlic noses at the Galileans," he was referring to the ancient Romans who looked down on all other peoples. He was speaking in the terms of how race was construction on the basis of ethnocentrism. Instead of calling them Romans, he referred to them as Italians which was the name of the peninsula because the nation-state did not exist. For those of you who want this conversation to continue, question the substance. Once again, the public needs to hear the entire sermons and read the complete articles; otherwise, we are fueling anti-Semitism where it does not truly exist. To be sure, Rev. Wright is a controversial ministry, but many ministries are. But he is not Obama’s running mate. To take excerpts out of context mis- represents the reverend’s ministry Rev. Wright and the American people must weather the newest storm, but the weather always changes.

Wright's Latest Storm
I must admit that I have not read the entire context of Rev. Wright’s newest storm, but these are my initial comments on the commentaries that I have read. His victimizations continues if I’m reading the latest comments on Wright’s storm correctly. If I have read these comments correctly, Rev. Wright did not make pro-Hamas, anti-Israel statement himself, the statement was contained in a reprint of an article from the The Los Angeles Times. Was the The Los Angeles Times attacked for originally printing the article? Also the article was characterized by another source, a Christian publication called Baptist Messenger reported that the church published a pro-Hamas, anti-Israel opinion article in a church bulletin in July. I know nothing about the editorial policy of the Baptist Messenger.


the PU view
Typical liberal show 3 screaming harpies and one conservative

Doug
I don't take lightly to being called a liar, so don't stop reading till I get to you.

...as you libs & all the black apologists for O'Blame-Ya like to say -
Can ANY of You PROVE the O'Blame-Ya's didn't take their kids to listen to the hate-mongering of 'uncle' Jerry?

I also submit that the Libs out there that keep saying "it was only a snippet out of thousands of hours..."
THEY are just repeating the O'Blame-Ya/ LSM defense...They themselves have most likely not heard more than the "snippets" but are willing to swallow the Kool-Aid in one gulp.

To those like oregonjohn talking about 'socialism' and denying it exists in the remaining candidates!!! WAKE-UP!!!
BTW john...
are you partaking in the "sensitivity training" being paid for on the taxpayer dime that will make the black athletes who are going to train in Eugene, Oregon prior to the Olympics feel more comfortable?
You know, the training for restaurant workers that will direct the black athletes to the nearest place to find soul food!!! (the gall of the enlightened Oregonians is astounding!)

To lilly...I suggest you re-read (or re-watch because I have no doubt you have it taped) Barry's 'Licolnesque performance'...pay special attention to the part where he says "MORE ladders", of the type he & Mrs O'Blame-Ya used to get where they are, are NEEDED for HIS children!!! Not mine...Not yours (though I suspect you don't have any) but HIS....

And finally to Doug the MENTAL Lightweight who has to resort to reposting again and again the same old tired crap...
You sir(?) are a run of the mill Racist. So STOP being so full of yourself.

W/O=

anti-americanism rampant among lefties..
The following just appeared on the CNN Ticker
March 29, 2008
Obama's pastor makes surprise appearance at Chicago church

"CHICAGO (AP) — Barack Obama's controversial former pastor got a big round of applause last night during a surprise appearance before a congregation in Chicago.
The Reverend Jeremiah Wright showed up for an event to celebrate poet Maya Angelou's birthday at Saint Sabina Roman Catholic Church.
Video shows the surprised audience giving him a standing ovation.
The pastor of Saint Sabina says he invited Wright because Wright is a fan of Angelou's.
Wright gave the benediction, followed by more applause, and did not speak about the Democratic presidential hopeful.
Wright had canceled several public events following an uproar over incendiary comments about the U.S. and it's historic treatment of blacks.
Obama has condemned Wright's remarks denouncing America for allegedly racist and genocidal act."
MY COMMENT: nonjudgementalism, open-mindedness, absurd celebrity culture, gross partisanship and sheer destructiveness. Need more to figure out why Obama thrives?
And more: on the same page CNN is fuming about some students at a Dakota university doing a black-face sketch during a fund-raiser - hang them!
And since here, I will gleffully remind everyone how OJ Simpson was received with ovations when he appeared for a speech at the Torrance Community College some years ago.

Carlos
Is there competition?


Black people are not worried about that stuff.

Congrats. Hispanic for the most part seem like nice people.

Carlos does seem pre-occupied about the state of African Americans.

Hmm.


Once again!
I didn't see the show but reading your column it appears the women failed, once again, to challenge Obama. As he continues to say those few comments don't give a good picture of Wright someone should have indicated that awarding Farrakhan a Life Time Achievement award portrays a very good picture of the mans values; and anyone else that attends the church and gives their children over to the tutelage of the church.

The Fall of Black America...

African-Americans are a shrinking percentage of U.S. population.

2006 census numbers place African-Americans at 12.8% of the US population. Latinos have passed African-Americans at 14.8% of the population.

There's a problem. When Obama is President, he intends give Amnesty to 20 Million Mexicans. This influx of new citizens will most likely drop the percentage of African-Americans to "Below 10%" of the US population. And Latinos will become "Over 20%" of the US population.

Latinos will have "Twice" the voting power and influence of African-Americans in short order.

Conclusions?

Proud Liberal writes
Personal Responsibility is an "out".
What a foolish and really guilt laden view. I don't know if you are a white liberal who must try to expunge his guilt by acting like Captain Marvel or an angry African American that needs for white people to help you feel better about yourself. Either way, you have a real self identity problem like your god (A.J Cone), prophet (Wright) and Messiah (Obama). The key for you might be to take some personal responsibility to see who can forgive sin, pride and anger. This might lead you to Jesus - not Black Liberation Theology or Liberal Philosophy.




Twisted History
This country was formed in 1776. In 1860 the country went to war to end slavery, and a short time later Lincoln freed the few slaves here by proclamation. It was England who first made a law freeing all slaves and then the US. These two countries backed up their law by force of arms around the world. It was whites who freed the slaves and ended an institution that had existed from the beginning of time. It was African blacks and the Arabs that ran the slave trade. Whites ended the slave trade as blacks could not do that for themselves. It was not only blacks who were slaves but all races of peoples, Jews, gentiles, Indians, Caucasians, everone. The word slave comes from the word Slav as there were so many Slavs that were slaves. Slavs are white people. The only place in the world where some one can pin slavery on someone is here in the US with it's twisted history and blacks have made a cottage industry of it. Eventually that excuse will find it's way into the trash bin of history.
I take no responsibility for history done long before I was born. I take responsibility only for my actions and my future.

Obama is a child searching
for that irresponsible black father who left him at the age of two. Condi is a frustrated old maid who finds that the White man she loves is not available to her so she blames racism.

These two people are not what I want governing my country or my life. Too much emotional baggage and waaaaaaay too much racial baggage and resentments. I always thought Condi was too good to be true, but I'm still disappointed. Skin color is the only thing on these peoples' minds.

Wrat Wrangler...

This common theme of Black leaders living in Lilly-White neighborhoods, and sending "Their" children to board at Lilly-White schools, is never mentioned on MSNBC et al.

Have Obama's kids been exposed to African-American predominant schools? I doubt it.

In Detroit, nary a public school teacher or City Leader, sends their kids to Detroit public schools. Even the big promoter of Reparations, Congressman John Conyers, sent his son to a Lilly-White boarding High School at a $30,000 per year clip. This has all been reported locally, but never hits the National News?

Sad again. Wealthy African-Americans do not allow their children to "mix" with other African-American kids. "Mixing" may cause empathy for poor people, and we can't have that.

Obama used phony Racism to get to the top. I seriously doubt he holds any hostility towards White folks. Heck, he knows who loved him, and he knows who didn't. But, greed trumps all truth in his Party.

Proud Liberal
You could be right. In fact, those characters who towed the black guy behind their pickup ought to be resurrected because they had no personal responsibility. Doubtless, their mama didn't bring them up well. And that's not her fault either because.....

Carlos
Yeah, except Katrina exposed conservtives true "colors".

Hard truth about Mexicans:

They would rather hop a fence to cut grass ans clean toilets for crumbs- than to fight for their OWN country.

The ones that are here are unpatriotic to there own country, and when they march for rights here, it's just bizzaro.

Buck up or get out...
If "His Blackness" can't stand the heat of the kitchen, it's time to stop cooking. I do believe this little fracas is mild compared to what will be coming on the agenda.

heavydoug ...

Latinos value "wealth" more than the color of their skin. Democrats have a direct interest in producing good jobs and wealth for these voters. And they will work hard to do just that.

It's sad, very sad. Ghettos produce Democrat votes at nearly a 90% clip. Democrats like Obama see no gain in lifting up African-Americans. They have no intention of solving poverty and family dysfunction.

The higher up the ladder African-Americans go, the less likely they are to vote Democrat.

Personal responsibility is an "Out"
It strikes me I wasn't quite explicit enough.

"Personal Responsibility" was invented to give white people an "out," i.e., to relieve white people of personal responsibility for our history of racism and its consequences.

"Personal Responsibility" is a self-serving invention.


Docfixit
Physician heal thyself!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anpI-BKp5cg


White ministers confront Wright. About his rascist rants.

And it's on tape!

He can't renounce Wright or his views
because Wright is the father he never had and who led not only to christianity but to his blackness. Note that Obama is never specific about what messages of Wrights he denounces.

doctorfixit and others
We white folks lost the monopoly on racism LONG AGO.

E.G. - jesse jackson, al sharpton, rev. (?) jeremiah wright, and barack obama, andrew young, et. al.

As for whites being responsible for the mess that many blacks are in now - you either subscribe to it or you don't. As long as you do "white liberal built" is for you.

White liberal guilt seems to be the gift that keeps on giving, but I have to hope that within another generation or so it will disappear.

"Personal Responsibility" is Racist
It's interesting that conservatives like to start black history in the United States with Lyndon Johnson and his policies that destroyed the black family, produced illigitimacy, made black people feel they couldn't compete in the greater society, put them on welfare, blah, blah, blah....

This is a conservative theory of cause and effect which says that what ever happened to blacks before Lyndon Johnson, whatever traditions blacks had before Lyndon Johnson, ceased immediately upon his election to produce any subsequent consequences and subsequent consequences could only be attributed to Lyndon Johnson.

The concept of "personal responsibility" is synonymous with the idea that previous black history, culture, traditions, memories did not reverberate into the future after Johnson's election.

It's simply logic. Every black individual must be totally and solely responsible for his fate if the past, including individual upbringing in a culture, has no consequences.

With the formulation of the doctrine of "personal responsibility" whites, particularly southern whites, could deflect the notion that our actions had any consequences.

Imaging that, 200 years of consequences free emotional and physical violence to our fellow man. Who wouldn't vote for that?

Why doesn't Orca Winfrey
just interview Rev. Wright in his new 10,340 sq. ft. home in a high security 99% white GATED community ouside Chi-Town? She could follow up with footage of Germantown in Philly the lily-white nabe he grew up in and the 96% white Central High where his educated PROFESSIONAL parents sent him in preference to a newly integrated "progressive" high School. WHY?

While at it she could show the mostly white BOARDING school Barack the Baby Seal went to paid for by his WHITE GRANDMA WHO HE THREW UNDER THE BUS! How about interviewing his fellow students who produced the Harvard Law Review? What about showing the office where he handed out DOG LICENSES till his political master, Mayor Daley, discovered him and motivated to run for local and then state office while doing the Mayor's bidding all the way?

THAT'S the coverage we need. NOT more wads of cotton candy thrown at this fraud.

-Ray

Carlos
Latinos who are auditioning to be the new slaves.

Good luck.

Blacks no when to get in the game. For instance, when there are unions. (we're not going to start getting back in the Military until Bush is gone either.)


Perpetuating racism
Even moronic white people, the women on 'The View' for example, believe that only white people can be racists. The black women on 'The View' see nothing wrong in Wright's preaching. They explain it that "white people and black people don't hear it the same way". "If white people would understand that they would calm down." Uh, no thanks.

Teaching hate in the church is wrong. Assuming that hate is taught in all churches and justifies hate being taught in yours is wrong. Perpetuating hate and resentment generation after generation is wrong. Ruining the lives of children by teaching them hate is wrong. Racism is hate. Hate isn't relegated to any one race.

Surprisingly, intelligent people deal with hate whenever the subject presents itself. My kid gets honest answers to questions on slavery, segregation, and the mistreatment of all people. Jews during the holocaust. Japanese internment camps. "Irish need not apply" signs at work sites. Honest answers include the fact that progress is made only if everyone stands together. Honest answers include the fact that people like David Duke and Rev. Wright still exist in the world. Honest answers include the fact that we all have to be on guard against those who want to perpetuate the hate and resentment. Honest answers include the fact that every individual is responsible for their own actions. Honest answers include the fact that if you don't participate in the hate you have nothing to feel guilty about or apologize for.

Typical "White" Person Speaks
As a european-american,I am not allowed to have an opinion of any sort on blacks, because whatever my opinion is, it will be deemed racist by the likes of Obama supporters.

I do not believe Obama for one minute, nor do I trust him. What I hear and see from him is spin. He has been caught red-handed patronizing a racist, and he just keeps making excuses. Sorry, Obama, just because you are black you don't get a pass on anti-european racism. I know that dark skin color is supposed to indemnify you from any consequences of deviant or hateful behavior, but that only works in the American press and the American "justice" system.

Un-surprisingly, Obama supporters aren't the least bit put off by the revelation of his longterm apprenticeship under a master racist. This is very revealing as to what their real plans are if they get elected.

Fox news busts Wright
for building a mansion is the suburbs.

What does Obama have to do with that?

Looks like all you proved Wright is not a white seperatist.

Sure sounds like the republican version American dream to me.


The game is chess. Not checkers.

Latinos Rising
Carlos' comments:

"I hate to break it to the Liberals here, but African-Americans are no longer the top prize for Democrat politicians.

Latino voters are the most coveted in the Nation. And we can expect Democrats to praise and pander to Latinos, while sending African-Americans to the back of the Rainbow Bus."

Kudos for Carlos, those comments are the most perceptive and most realistic of all those on this website. Latinos are going to replace blacks as the largest, most influential minority group in the USA--and that is going to happen much faster than anyone thinks.


Obama keeps defending Wright
Anyone disagree? 'Nuff said. Wright is a Black Liberation Theologist. So is Obama. I do not believe these principles are good for America, and i will not vote for Obama. Those of you who believe Obama will cure the country's problems, please vote for him. He may even get elected. Within 12 months i expect to be saying i told you he(she) was a jerk to anyone who supports any of the 3 stooges.

Come ON YALL
We all know why he is still backing his Pastor.

HE IS BLACK, if OBAMA blasted the Pastor he would lose face with the BLACK COMMUNITIES.

This isnt going to go away just wait until the CLINTONEESTAS get rolling.

I bet HITLERY has found out who her true backers in Congress are now.

Its all funny because HITLERY and LIBS have brought this on themselves for how they have kept the Black Voters on their PLANTATIONS for all these years with giving them everything that they(BLACKS) wanted just for their votes. Now that a Black Man is running and WINNING they are freaking out because LIBS would have never thought that someone would break away from the PLANTATION and be threatening their POLITICAL POWER

They never in all their life would have thought that a BLACK MAN would become PRESIDENT before a WOMAN became President. HA HA HA

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAa

Obama and Wright
1. I love Jeremiah Wright and I will not abandon him.
2. Racism is abhorrent and if elected POTUS I will do everything in my power as POTUS to see that all citizens will be treated equally.
3. If elected POTUS I will work to eliminate any policy or program that seeks to give any citizen preferential treatment over any other citizen.
4. If elected POTUS I will pledge to support any group that teaches inclusion of all citizens and not support any group that teaches exclusion of some citizens.
5. If elected POTUS I will direct all government agencies, including the IRS to examine any non profit group that practices hate speech or racism or separatism instead of unity of all citizens and take appropriate action.
6. If elected POTUS I will direct all government agencies, including the IRS to examine any church or non-profit group that campaigns for a political party or candidate and take appropriate action.
8. I love Jeremiah Wright and I will not abandon him.

I could accept Obamas defense of Wright if he did it that way. Love the sinner and hate the sin.

Left Angle of Friday 3:39 pm
I don't know a single white person who admits he's a racist. When i tell them that some black people think this is so, they smile and shake their heads in pity.

So far as black spokemen go, you could be right. When talking to the black folks who trust me, they usually express regret that Jesse has strayed so far from the idealism of his young days with MLK. As one put it sadly. "The world got to Jesse". It has been said, maybe by you, that blacks have quite different persona when talking to blacks or whites. There is a third persona i think i have seen, and that is when talking to a white person who gives them uncritical room to be themself. But i could be fooled. From painful experience, black folks are quite sophisticated at making their way through treacherous social waters. White folks see Al, Jesse, and now Wright as spokesmen because they all say pretty much the same thing, and they are supported enthusiasticaally and financially by thousands of blacks. Who do you propose as the real black spokesman. Obama? How is he different from Jesse?

The question about race I'd like to ask.
Like many typical white people, I have been thinking long and hard about the recent controversy concerning Senator Obama and Reverend Jeremiah Wright.

I made a point of listening to Reverend Wright's comments several times. If you can get beyond the flawed logic and the deliberately inflammatory rhetoric, I in truth cannot totally disagree with what he said. In other words, maybe in some measure whites are partly to blame for the mess the black community finds itself in now. I think you can trace many present-day black problems (e.g., illegitimacy, poor education, high unemployment, and crime) not to slavery, but to the imposition of well-meaning, yet flawed social programs instituted by white liberals beginning with Lyndon Johnson. In their zeal to "improve" the lot of blacks, these programs treated them like helpless children incapable of responsibility, resulting in a splintering of the black family and the glorification of social pathology.

There is a scene from the movie Gone With The Wind that illustrates this “helpful” yet crippling attitude for me. Scarlett and Mammy are walking down an Atlanta street during the post-war Reconstruction. They pass by a white carpetbagger talking to a group of freed slaves. The carpetbagger says to the slaves, "And we're going to give you 40 acres and a mule!" The slaves react with astonishment. "40 acres and a mule?" they cry. "40 acres and a mule!" repeats the carpetbagger. And then he leans back, and says with a smug oily smile, "Cause we're your friends."

So if Senator Obama wants to have a dialogue on race, here's the question I'd like to ask: Why do so many blacks, year after year after year, continue to flock to and support the people who promote the very policies that have so clearly hurt them?

Phylo doh!
Howard Unruh was honorably discharged yet went on to become a serial killer. as was John Allen Muhammad ("The Beltway Sniper"), Dennis Rader ("BTK"), David Berkowitz joined the U.S. Army in 1971, and was active until his honorable discharge in 1974. So really "honorably discharged" means nothing unless it is attached to an honorable man which the Wrong Rev Wright is not one.

http://www.crimelibrary.com/notorious_murders/mass/howard_u nruh/index.html

WRIGHT ~ ULTIMATE HYPOCRISY = 2
When a Jeremiah Wright can preach as he does and then is found moving to an upscale multi-million dollar gated community in a vanilla white community at the expense of his much poorer parishioners, it sends a chill up my spine. It frightens me that someone like this has had such a major role in helping to shape a future President and I wonder how it has taken so very long before the issue has been raised, I've known about him and the Trinity church for more than a year, bite my tongue!! The pols and pundits call it "vetting" and I don't rely on them to do my vetting for me, thank you.

I hope he enjoys his neighbors.


WRIGHT ~ ULTIMATE HYPOCRISY
All of you owe it to yourselves and to your country to see what Jeremiah has been up to these last several weeks.....

Pastor Wright is moving into a 10,340 square foot mansion presently under construction, Thank You Lord, in a gated community, high end Chicago.......far from the poor folks in South Chicago who form up the base of Trinity United..

According to documents obtained from the Cook County Register of Deeds, Wright purchased two empty lots in Tinley Park, Ill., from Chicago restaurant chain owner Kenny Lewis for $345,000 in 2004.

Documents show Wright sold the property to his church, Trinity United, in December 2006, with the proceeds going to a living trust shared with his wife, Ramah.

The sale price for the land was just under $308,000, about $40,000 less than Wright’s original purchase two years earlier.

Public records of the sale show Trinity initially obtained a $10 million bank loan to purchase the property and build a new house on the land.

But further investigation with tax and real estate attorneys showed that the church had actually secured a $1.6 million mortgage for the home purchase, and attached a $10 million line of credit, for reasons unspecified in the paperwork.

...Wright did not respond to repeated calls for comment, and Trinity United refused to discuss the specifics of the home it is building for him and the way the deal was financed.

Of one thing I'm certain, this will all be paid for by the parishioners and the Good Lord above with donations and at no expense to Jeremiah Wright. The location of the home is Tinley Park, Illinois, if you care to look it over, it's a nearly all White community, if that matters.
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/03/27/obamas-former-pasto r-builds-a-multimillion-dollar-retirement-home/comment-page -8/


Phylo doh!
Phylo Se Fiser writes: Friday, March, 28, 2008 6:22 PM
Challenge for Wright haters
Those of you who hate Dr. Wright need to face some facts:

1) The man has probably preached over four thousand hours of sermons.

a) 4 thousand hours of "Black liberation theology" as The Wrong Rev Wright took from James Cone, "... Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love.

2) If the two or three clips we've all seen, which were spoken in the hot afterglow of 9/11 mind you, were typical of the mans ministry, then there should be thousands of examples of him saying similar things.



If you cannot locate thousands of such examples, or at least dozens, then I think it's incumbent upon you to admit this might be an aberration.

b) Fool these clips were sold on DVDs sold by Wrights church the absence of other tapes is not proof of the nonexistence of them or that he only said what was on tape once.

3) The man is a former Marine, honorably discharged. If you weren't willing to give your life to defend this country, you should thank him for his service and shut the f up.

c) Remember Hasan Akbar a soldier! And if you're so down with Soldiers you should elect McCain and shut the f up.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hasan_Akbar_case

Phylo doh!

Had Wright not retired, Obama
"Had the reverend not retired, and had he not acknowledged that what he had said had deeply offended people and were inappropriate and mischaracterized what I believe is the greatness of this country, for all its flaws, then I wouldn't have felt comfortable staying at the church,"

The above is the sum and total of Barack's comment on The View which has since been artfully spun by MSM into "I would have left the church........." and that is NOT what he said. Being uncomfortable staying at the church would equate to no more than an urge to go to the rest room in the middle of a sermon, it does not equate to severing relationships with the church, does It? This is the best SPIN line of the Year, no one has done better.

Are we all such fools?