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Friday, January 18, 2008
Amanda Carpenter :: Townhall.com Columnist
Chertoff: Tougher ID Standards by Jan 31
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The Department of Homeland Security will tighten identification requirements to cross the border, despite opposition from Democrats in Congress, by the end of this month.

“We’re going to eliminate the vulnerabilities that we can eliminate now even with Congress delaying our initiative,” said Secretary of Homeland Security Michael Chertoff in a phone interview with Townhall on Thursday.

As of January 31, DHS will end the practice of “oral declarations” and significantly narrow the list of acceptable forms of identification that can be used to enter the United States.

“We are not going to allow people any more to make what we call oral declarations at the border,” Chertoff said. “And what that means is someone just walks up to the border and says ‘I am an American’ and they are just waived through without looking at any identification. It may surprise you that that ever happened but apparently for some period of time, particularly when things get busy, agents do not require identification for everyone that is coming through. We’re ending that. There is no excuse for that.”

DHS found 31,060 instances of oral false claims between October 2004 and September 2007.

Chertoff is also reducing the number of documents that can be used for identification purposes. Until now, 8,000 different forms of identification could be used to to prove identity. . “Not just passports and driver’s licenses and birth certificates, but baptismal certificates, student ID cards, library cards, and that’s ridiculous because many of these are very easy to forge or fabricate,” Chertoff said.

These two actions are a part of what DHS would like to implement as part of a large package called the Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative (WHTI) that was created in response to 9/11 Commission recommendations. WHTI originally passed as a part of a larger intelligence reform bill in 2004 and was scheduled to be enacted this year. Congress, however, inserted language into the 2008 omnibus spending bill to delay the program until June 2009.

Rep. Louise Slaughter (D.-N.Y.), chairwoman of the House rules committee, takes credit for delaying WHTI. Slaughter told the Buffalo-based Business Review in December, “We have put it off [WHTI] until 2009. We want a new administration and certainly want a new director of Homeland Security.” She also expressed doubt the measures would enhance security because “You’d have to be a pretty stupid terrorist to wait in line just to cross one of the bridges.”

When asked about the likelihood of the next administration supporting WHTI, Chertoff said, “If a future Congress and a future administration decides they want to go back to the same kinds of old, flimsy documentation then they are going to take the responsibility for the consequences, as unhappy as those consequences may be.”

Chertoff said he was able to end the practice of oral declarations and reducing the list of acceptable documents by making “just a tweak in the instruction” DHS gives to Border Patrol and border inspectors.

Full WHTI standards would require persons traveling by air or sea between the U.S., Canada, Mexico, the Caribbean Basin, Bermuda and Central and South American to carry a passport. To cross a land border, however, a security enhanced-driver’s license or State Department issued Pass card would be accepted. .

“The best thing in the world would be for the Congress to allow us to implement this before June 2009,” Chertoff said. “But, to be honest with you, at this point if they would just let us do what we are doing now, we at least make 80 percent progress in dealing with some of our problems at the border.”

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Yeah, well
Chertoff, Bush, and the rest of those drones will have more credibility with me when they dump the PC and start profiling at airports.

Until then, fuggedabboudit!

Oh.... and where's the g-damned fence?????


It's about time
It's about time for "something" to be done. I personally am so tired of the excuses for not protecting our border.
This is our country, our way of life, and it needs secured. No one has a "right" to come to the US, although some feel they have that right.

We do need to be a country of "high fences and wide gates". But there are a few simple rules...

1. Ask before entering
2. Learn English
3. Assimilate and respect our way of life here, it's good for a reason. (it must be better than where you came from or you wouldn't have come)

The other day I hear McCain say he knows how to fix the borders, OMG he can't even fix Arizona, a state in which he is a senator. How is this blowhard going to fix a country?



Birth right
I forgot to add. This is also VERY important. This article has a very nice 1 click way to notify your "elected" official(s)

The Birthright Citizenship Act of 2007, by Rep. Nathan Deal (R-GA), would amend the Immigration and Nationality Act to eliminate birthright citizenship.

http://capwiz.com/caps/issues/alert/?alertid=10247066

Make sure you get the entire link. I'm not sure how to make it clickable here


Yeah, right.
And right after the election, anyone and everyone will again be admitted without hindrance. Hohum, business as usual.

Does anyone _really_ believe this ID bs will do one teensy bit of good? All the illegals will do until November is step around the corner [figuratively] and walk on in.

About freaking time
...that these morons got around to REQUIRING some kind of ID. Don't forget the there were 30,000+ false entries into the US in 3 years, that's 30 a day!! This should have been started immeadiately after 9/11 (that's over 6 years ago).

Now,DEMAND congress fund that fence, and maybe, just maybe, some of us will feel that our government is doing something to protect us from our enemies.

I also agree with the previous post that profiling should (must) be used at the the security line at the airport.

Did I read this right?
Rep. Louise Slaughter (D.-N.Y.), chairwoman of the House rules committee, takes credit for delaying WHTI. Slaughter told the Buffalo-based Business Review in December, “We have put it off [WHTI] until 2009. We want a new administration and certainly want a new director of Homeland Security.” She also expressed doubt the measures would enhance security because

“You’d have to be a pretty stupid terrorist to wait in line just to cross one of the bridges.”
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Do smart terrorists avoid lines?
How they do that?
Oh....just come in from Mexico as do millions of unknowns already I assume.

Are Americans smart enough to remove morons from office?
I do not think we are.

I do know the law abiding citizens get ID checks and body scan orifice checks to travel with-in the country, but anyone wanting to come here from the rest of the world is of little concern.

I think we need to require mental examinations for every stinking politician and government employee in America.


Typical
This is just another example of Repubicans trying to disenfranchise our 20-30 million undocumented proud Americans. It's a sad day when we try to restrict future (possibly) Americans in their efforts to vote for the candidates offering the most lucrative social services and welfare programs.

Why do conservatives continue to believe they should have some voice in determining how the government spends their tax dollars?

LOL, Icedog!
Yeah, it IS pretty naive, isn't it?


BrianR
Who knows, maybe a majority of the illegals who vote on electionday will be opposed to open borders, government handouts, in-state tuition, etc. and vote Republican.....HA!

Too little,too late
So now too little, too late Chertoff wants to do something on ID at the Boarders? What a disgrace this entire Bush administration has been. Just last month Chertoff was supporting the ridiculous New York Governor's plan to give illegals driver's licenses. About all they are good for in HLS is wanding two year olds in strollers at the airport and pulling old people and white college kids out of line to be checked out twice. Been there and seen it!

Drivers License for Illigals AGAIN
Agian another pandering politian in california is trying once again to get DL's for Illegals. How many times do LEGAL citizens have to say NO before these boneheads get it through there thick skulls and into their tiny little brains.

http://www.capsweb.org/content.php?id=232&menu_id=8

Now, I know this will irk someone here, I'm sorry, but i have to ask... Democratic Sen. Gil Cedillo has put forth this legislation several times before, all vetoed, would he be pushing this hard if the main nationality of Illegals was not mexican?

Hmmm.... I have problems with peoples lotyalties to our great country.


Hahahahaha, Icedog!
Yeah, and the voting dead guys will want that government health insurance, too.


oral arguments
Well,there's a big difference between oral declaration and asking to see their license or ID. Chertoff thinks we'll all flock to a better ID and demand it, when the government didn't even demand the old one. Lets make like birds and flock, flock, flock.

Sheeple for Slaughter
Rep. Louise Slaughter (D.-N.Y.), chairwoman of the House rules committee, takes credit for delaying WHTI. Slaughter told the Buffalo-based Business Review in December, “We have put it off [WHTI] until 2009. We want a new administration and certainly want a new director of Homeland Security.” She also expressed doubt the measures would enhance security because

“You’d have to be a pretty stupid terrorist to wait in line just to cross one of the bridges.”


What a complete and utter a**inine moron this woman is. Yeah, lets wait and wait until we're completely run over with Muslims, Illegals and socialists and lets just wait until her grand utopia of fellow fake New Yorker HillBilly gets in there to finish us off with her Marxist BullS**t. Looks like you can't be too stupid to be in congress, eh Slaughter? Who the hell voted for this dimwhit? N.Y.'s you should be ashamed. The first rule she should eliminate is her job. WHERES THE FENCE?????

Teqsand...... Cedillo: ptooey!
That jerk's the Energizer Bunny on this idiotic idea. He proposes it every single session.

His goal is certainly obvious: help the illegal aliens blend in even more, and more easily qualify (illegally) for any benefits they can steal.


Practice
Chertoff said he was able to end the practice of oral declarations...

He was ABLE: It always just keeps getting better with Chertoff, doesn't it? If only they could somehow screen out traitors in government. Nah.

Deport themselves


Focusing on a fence is short sighted and ineffective. Complete waste of money.

When flies collect on sh** one reasonably removes the pile. Follow the headlines as to what is getting illegals to leave in droves. Enforce the laws against hiring illegals. The employer of illegals must be fined to a level that makes it uneconomical to hire them. Cut loose the anchor babies. Stop free medical, free food, and all the other wonderful socialist feel warm and fuzzy operations. We won't need a fence, all the illegals will deport themselves. Offer a one way ticket those that can't afford same.

on top of that
not only do we need tougher id there

how about in voting? im tired of every election tons of dems getting caught and claiming they didn't know you could only vote once.

every person caught voting more than once should be put in prison for no less then 5 years.

LOL, CKHustler
It's only the dead ones who vote more than once.


Let me get this straight
There's a rumor going around that we were attacked on Tuesday, September 11, 2001 on a bright, beautiful almost Fall morning. We have
been told that we have to fight the islamists in Iraq and Afghanistan and have been since about 2003 (works for me, I can accept that). And
then we learn that hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens are sneaking into our back door, Chavez is teaching islamics to be Latino, evidence found on border of prayer rugs etc. Not only that, but from the mid 90's through 2006 there have been over 500 incursions into this country by the military of a foreign government.
While our out gunned Border Agents and our unarmed Guard can only look on. What does the
Bush administrations do..why they do the honorable thing, railroad two Border Agents for doing their duty; and possibly doing what every
real American wishes they could do, shoot the drug smuggler in the butt. But wait, it gets better..Americans will have to start proving they are Americans via the real I.D. card while these clowns were just taking the word of people crossing into this country. And it's already been mentioned, two year olds and blue haired ladies get pulled aside cuz that's the right and politically correct thing to do, otherwise our enemies might just get soooo mad at us. And
our Pentagon fires a reserve officer brought in to teach the so called military leaders the truth about the enemies we are fighting on the word of under sec Englands good buddy that the major is a Christian extremist.
Meanwhile, back at the fence..o there is no fence, well fancy that!

You would think Shirt-off
Would concern himself with this.

Mexican soldiers found invading United States
Government report documents dozens of armed campaigns in Texas, Arizona

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Posted: January 10, 2008
1:00 a.m. Eastern



© 2008 WorldNetDaily.com


A federal document obtained and released by Judicial Watch reveals that there were dozens of armed incursions by Mexican soldiers and police into the United States during Fiscal Year 2007.

The report was obtained by the Washington-based organization that investigates and prosecutes government corruption and it documents 29 confirmed incidents along the U.S.-Mexican border involving Mexican military and/or law enforcement personnel during that time.

"These documents not only show the dangerous and chaotic situation at the Mexican border, but also the complicity of some Mexican government agents in violating U.S. law," said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton.

"The U.S. government must begin to take these incidents more seriously, publicize them and take measures to bring the crisis at our border under control," he said.

http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=59611

Romney Flip Flops on Immigration!
This was Romney who was for the McCain immigration plan before he was against it!

WATCH VIDEO

http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/romney-flip-flops- on-immigration


Mitt a relative winner on ILLEGALS
Tom Tancredo has endorsed Mitt, noting that "Mitt has walked the walk opposing ILLEGAL aliens," and has been FAR better in words and deeds than Juan McQuisling, the Huckster, and Sanctuary City Regularization Rudy, who all "got the message" just in time to run for Prez. The Huckster had said he did not understand resentment toward ILLEGALS as he tried to give scarce tuition funds to ILLEGAL alien progeny... he also opined that ILLEGAL immigration is a way for Americans to atone for slavery! Great gawd, almighty!

We CANNOT BE the welfare department for Mexico's failed economy controlled by the few in a plutocratic abuse of the many. Today's America can ONLY BENEFIT on balance from LEGAL, EDUCATED immigrants who come here desiring to assimilate. ILLEGALS do NOT fit this formula and have a disparate, ethnocentric agenda. We need to enforce our laws and let them repatriate attritively the same way they came, thus ignoring the red herring faux problem that, "we cannot deport 12 million."

MEXICO....DANGEROUS
of course i knew illegal immigration was illegal
but my eyes were really opened by 9/11! several of the murdering animals (terrorists) came thru
mexico! muslim literature and korans and maps have been found..with maps of our famous and startegic locations found with the muslim crap along the mexican borders!!! there had been more than one report of mid eastern people paying good money in mexico to be taught spanish...duh!
so as to pass for spanish speaking cultures! if they were honorable in intentions..why try to pass for spanish speaking folks!? SURE! THIS AND THE ECONOMY ...SHOULD BE THE BIGGEST ISSUES IN THIS ELECTION! elvis

high hopes
In Chertoff's likely hopes: We jerked around on the border long enough, time to get serious. The sooner we get them, the sooner we can get the format to the Mexican embassy so they can start printing them.

Lou Dobbs on Colbert!

HP-Gimmicks are doing a good job of replacing writers on The Colbert Report, if last night’s interview with Lou Dobbs is any indication. Colbert turned the interview on its head with a hilarious conceit of interviewing Dobbs as his Spanish-language counterpart, “Esteban Colberto.” Did hilarity ensue? Oh yes — including an in-studio barbed-wire fence, which Dobbs viewed with approval: “It’s very impressive, and better than some of the fence along our border now!”

WATCH VIDEO CLICK HERE

http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/lou-dobbs-on-colbe rt


go back to YOUR homeland, cherpy
leave OURS alone!

Tea Party
You said it well...for years the invisible fence has been held up by ??? inviting illegals in to pick fruit and veggies,cut grass,work construction,be nannies for children and all because we arrogant 'mericans will not do the work that needs to be done!Darn us! ...don't want to falsely accuse,so I won't
but gosh and golly...how were they not caught?And
we all know that Bank Of America,bless their dear
patriotic,conservative,Christian hearts is giving
credit cards and mortgages to illegals...WHO gave
the nod to go ahead with that?Who said,"No problemo?No prosecution for doing so,the bank,(as
part of Jorge's base)gets a pass.Business goes on
and thrives,as it should."Did someone once say."The buck stops here?" Yes,but that is ignored(after all,that would be accepting responsibility and that is not the style of our present administration) and has been trumped by the incredible
words that will resonate forever,"Good job,Brownie!" Pass the Kleenex...I'm sobbing in
my highly over priced beer!!!Maybe a cross stitch
(framed,of course)using those exact words can be hung in the Presidential library...punctuated by
pictures of Katrina before and Katrina after and
please also have pictures of those two border
guards arrested and jailed for doing their job.
They didn't read between the lines and "get it"
that it's all smoke and mirrors...let 'em in as
our economy will collapse without somebody to do the menial jobs that 'mericans refuse to do!And,
by all means...prepare the cards that will save us from stroller sneaks and blue haired babes!OH!
GOOD JOB,JORGE!!!

Wow, Genuises at work!
If this is how our Homeland security has been working since 9/11. I think I'll retire in Turkey or Costa Rica. They wouldn't think of letting you into their country without a photo ID Passport. What on earth are they smoking up in D.C.? Why stand in line, Mr. terrorist? Just walk across the Rio Grande River. And if a border patrolman tries to stop you, just yell, "Amigo", and run. He won't shoot you because he remembers what happened to Ramos and Compeon. This illegal & border security issue is what is going to come back and bite the Repubs in the b@@t.I have been a Republican most of my 72 years, but I am now an Independent. There is no difference anymore in the two parties.

They are Among Us
Head for the hills or rather another country. They are already among us.There are probably fewer terrorists in Saudi Arabia than in the USA.
I am a real estate agent and had to have my fingerprints taken yesterday to renew my 30 year license, but to come into my own country, all I have to do is say "Amigo, American" to the security fellow. oops, I mean person. I forgot to be polically correct. By the way a term I never heard of back in the 50s or 60s. Was this the kinder gentler USA? Hogwash, what we need is a John Wayne.

Kicking and Screaming
Canadians have been kicking and screaming about this new law since it was first proposed. Putting it off til 2009 was in part due to the pressure put on the USA by our Results Without Effort Government which follows the screaming and kicking masses who desire to never have to do anything they never did before and whose sole interest is in making the Americans back down.

As for this being one small step, remember that the Perfect drives out the Good. If we decide to wait until we have the perfect solution before we make any changes at all ...

Yeah right!
The only ones getting hosed by this DHS requirement are American Citizens. If you are a citizen DHS/INS treats you like a criminal, if you are an illegal it's Hola! Come on in a take all the services and money you want for Free! Courtesy of Bush, Chertoff, the skull and the mush headed Democats.

BrianR
You forgot about the Pets bro. Im sure they want more than just Puppy Chow when they cast their votes WOLF WOLF.

DONT WOLF ME BRO, DONT WOLF ME BRO

Living in a suburb of Detroit
going back and forth over bridges to Canada or through the tunnel is commonplace. We have always shown our passport making passing through customs go more easily. Perhaps, now the lines may go faster.

What worries me isn't these bridges and tunnels. It is the places unsupervised. We are doing more but not near enough. Also, going after employers looking for cheap help would help a whole lot more.


Too plain to be fooled by DHS and Bush
As the President sacrifices young lives in Afghanistan and Iraq protecting their borders and nation building for the super rich businessmen, he ignores the hoards of unknowns flocking into this country and instead targets the law abiding citizen for identification.

Its plain they intend to gain more power over all of us with the leading up to a national id.

Its all about more government control and the bringing the United States into the Globalist rule under the UN.
Bush does not see himself as the President of the United States, but a mover and a person in power to force America into his globalist vision.

Problem is, he is backed by most of the criminals who run the US Government.
If calling them criminals seems harsh, I feel its accurate if the US Constitution is the Law of the Land.
The Document he is intent to destroy, and is doing so.


I see the American Citizen
In the very same light as once seen in the Old South when Slavery was still legal.

The Slave Masters would buy and sell men to one another to enrich themselves off the sweat of chained men.

How are we any different than the Slaves in the Force of Government selling us and the Nation for riches?

They own us all now by the power over the economy and legal system.
Folks, it has always been the legal system that has been used by tyrants throughout the ages.

It was the legal system of the Old South that Legalized Slavery and Jim Crow Laws.

If you trust the US Government, not only are you their Slave with your body, but your heart and soul as well.

The Founders gave us a system that did NOT TRUST anyone in Government.
KNOWING its government that is the PROBLEM!
A necessary evil that MUST BE KEPT IN CHECK.

Americans have LOST their willingness to FIGHT for their individual Liberty and all to be expected is more and more laws made to increase their POWER OVER ALL OF US.

And we argue which of the Tack Masters will be the lessor evil.
We have no one running for office in the so called front runners of either traitorous party.
Both democrats and republicans are enemies of all Liberty this Nation is Founded in, period.

We are OWNED by the power to tax us all when the BANKERS GAINED CONTROL OVER THE ECONOMY AND THE VALUE OF OUR MONEY.

This is not a mystery, it is the simple truth.

The American Way
NO MAN is above the LAW.
Not the President of the First Lady.
NO ONE.
The Office of the President represents the Laws and the Constitution of America.

No President has any right to pick and choose which laws he will obey or enforce.
HE IS OBLIGATED to Enforce the LAW.

Its as plain as the nose on our face he WILL NOT EVER ENFORCE IMMIGRATION LAW.

That alone makes him a CRIMINAL, and if the US Justice System was about JUSTICE, he would be IMPEACHED for DERELICTION OF DUTY

CORRECTION
talent scout writes: Saturday, January, 19, 2008 1:05 PM
The American Way
NO MAN is above the LAW.
Not the President OR the First Lady.

This President is now backing
The Overthrow of the 2nd Amendment, all the while he gives lip service to just wanting whats best for all.
As if the US Constitution AS WRITTEN had no concern for that.

He is an outright traitor to the very Founding Principles of America that RIGHTS ARE GOD GIVEN.
My rights do not come from the President or the Supreme Court.
I do not need either one to give me a damn thing.
I have the same rights both of them do, and they are not my rulers, but my servants to obey the SAME GOD THAT GIVES ALL MEN RIGHTS.

I am sick of the sin of respect to persons in this back-slidden nation of hypocrites, liars and criminal minded rulers.

Justice does not exist in this nation of thieves and whore mongers any longer.
Am I outraged? HELL YES.

No man is above me, no man.
The same laws I am under he is as well, and I find it offensive to everything that is right to see the politicians of today ravish the nation by criminal intent to overthrow the Rights of all men.
As the President is now backing the stealing of the Right to self defense and disarm all citizens, beginning in Washington DC, he is surrounded by ARMED MEN and WEAPONARY FOR HIS OWN PROTECTION.
Who the hell is he afraid of he has to have armed guards?
Is he the only man alive in danger from murdering slime?
How can that be when all American Citizens have unarmed citizens murdered daily!
Murder is now just a statistic to keep track of.

Alright, I got it out of my system but my rage against the evil I see is smoldering hot.

Yes I am angry today against the US Government and the path of destruction they have placed this nation on.

Forgive me my rant, if you can.
If not, go to hell


To Mr. Chertoff
YEAH, Right.
I'll believe that when I see it and the illegals, I mean the "undocumented," here in Utah start to disappear. Or at least stop showing up so often.

It has really infuriated me...
that , I have to have a passport to come back from Canada, but our southern border is wide open!

Voters
Now if we could stop the Republicans from voting twice in my district I would trust the results more. Why is it only the Republicans who don't know you can only vote once. Tons of 'em!

Oh, sorry, maybe a few Democrats did this as well. Sorry for the hyperbole, which seems to be the only thing TH regulars know how to do. If a majority of double-votes were from Republicans would that make a difference?

Regarding Chertoff, isn't he the loser who didn't have a clue when Katrina hit? He "did not see it coming, and nobody did." Chertoff? This guy is still in government? Reminds me of Bolton, who hates the UN, and is assigned a position with the UN. Or all of the Republican gays who vote against gay marriage.

Being Republican means never having to say you're a hypocrite.

Do you feel the jackboots on your neck?
The answer to "1984" is 1776.

Docwaters
Then, I hope this doesn't make your blood boil.

My friend at ICE tells me that any illegal from Mexico must have travel papers, such as passports, BEFORE MEXICO WILL ALLOW THEM BACK INTO THEIR OWN COUNTRY. So, our country has to spend money and time making travel documents for them before they can go back.

I ask you, how many illegals think to bring travel papers over when crossing illegally? I'm sure the answer is, next to none.

Killing the Marines Americans won't
Then there's the case of Cesar Armando Laurean, the Mexican who was allowed to join the Marines, then recently fled back to Mexico after murdering fellow Marine corporal Maria Lautenbach and her unborn baby.

Chertoff's Real ID Driver's Licenses would infringe on the civil rights of Americans, but do nothing to keep out terrorists or illegal aliens.



THEY REALLY THINK WE'RE THAT STUPID
Yes. They do. They believe that by requiring more reliable identification at the border, they will be convincing us that we are thereby keeping out more terrorists. Chertoff cannot say these things without a little glint of fear in his eyes that people recognize there's a lot being left out of this stupid little plan.

Such as: why make it more difficult for Americans? Otherwise, Americans could just saunter over like the illegal aliens.

I could go on and on, but I've discovered someone's looking over my shoulder. Ohhhh, nooooooo!

ID
If amnesty happens why worry about ID cards. We will soon have open borders

ID
A new ID card will do nothing but be used as a way to further control us when they get open borders.
Someone please tell me why when 85% of Americas voted down amnesty that McCain Pelosi is ahead in the polls. If he is the nominee it will be a one party election.

AudiR10, I agree...
I read an article that was based on family relations titled "Progress not Perfection." It was basically saying we don't have to have a perfect system as long as we're making progress. I think that is something we should apply to the borders and airlines. If someone feels like they're being "profiled" then so be it. Where have our main threats come from? Not the blue-haired ladies, babies, or our returning troops, for goodness sake! As one peaceful American Muslim said "I'd rather be profiled every time I get on a plane, than to get on a plane with a jihadist and have my family killed, or leave them without a father, because they didn't inspect a suspected Muslim!"

Quit walking on eggshells, nail the suckers to the wall, go through their suitcases and frisk them! Finish the fence (and the democrat Congress has stalled the funds on this as well!) I received a letter several months ago from a Republican Congressman who I correspond with frequently and he told me that the democrats in Congress are stalling the fence and blaming it on the President, so it's a two-way street. Who wanted to give out licenses to illegals? HRC so she could get more votes! Think about it! The longer they stall the better chance they have of winning the Presidency. More illegal votes!

I feel much better now
Does anybody really think that this administration or the one to follow will change anything regarding illegal immigration? It is really upsetting that while our military is fighting our enemy elsewhere our government allows any bad guy that wants to enter our country free access. How serious can our government be about keeping the homeland safe when this is allowed to continue?

Interview cont.
Jim: Since you are demanding to become an American citizen, why then are you carrying a Mexican Flag? Juan: Because I am Mexican. Jim: But you said you want to be given amnesty, to become a US citizen. Juan: No. This is not what we want. This is our country, a part of Mexico that you Gringos stole from us. We want it returned to its rightful owner. Jim: Juan, you are standing in Texas. After winning the war with Mexico, Texas became a Republic, and later Texans voted to join the USA. It was not stolen from Mexico. Juan: That is a Gringo lie. Texas was stolen, so was California, New Mexico, and Arizona. It is just like all the other stuff you Gringos steal, like oil and babies. You are a country of thieves. Jim: Babies? You think we steal babies? Juan: Sure. Like from Korea and Vietnam and China. I see them all over the place. You let all these foreigners in, but try to keep us Mexicans out. How is this fair?
Jim: So, you really don't want to become an American citizen then? Juan: I just want my rights! Everyone has a right to live, work, and speak their native language wherever and whenever they please. That's another thing we demand. All signs and official documents should be in Spanish. Teachers must teach in Spanish. Soon, more people here in Houston will speak Spanish than English. It is our right! Jim: If I were to cross over the border into Mexico without proper documentation, what rights would I have there? Juan: None. You would probably go to jail, but that's different. Jim: How is it different? You said everyone has the right to live wherever they please. Juan: You Gringos are a bunch of land grabbing thieves. Now you want Mexico too? Mexico has its rights. You Gringos have no rights in Mexico. Why would you want to go there anyway? There is no free medical service, schools, or welfare there for foreigners such as you. You cannot even own land in my country. Stay in the country of your birth!

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AN INTERVIEW with an illegal at a protest in TX. They just say what they think makes a new case when the previous case gets too difficult to defend - circular logic. Reporting for a Houston TV station downtown Houston May 1, 2007: Jim: Juan, I see that you and thousands of other protesters are marching in the streets to demonstrate for your cause. Exactly what is your cause and what do you expect to accomplish by this protest? Juan: We want our rights. We will show you how powerful we are. We will bring Houston to its knees! Jim: What rights? Juan: Our right to live here...legally. Our right to get all the benefits you get. Jim: When did you come to the United States? Juan: Six years ago. I crossed over the border at night with seven other friends. Jim: Why did you come? Juan: For work. I can earn as much in a month as I could in a year in Mexico . Besides, I get free health care, our Mexican children can go to school free, if I lose my job I will get Welfare, and someday I will have the Social Security. Nothing like that in Mexico! Jim: Did you feel badly about breaking our immigration laws when you came? Juan: No! Why should I feel bad? I have a right to be here. I have a right to amnesty. I paid lots of money for my Social Security and Green Cards. Jim: How did you acquire those documents? Juan: From a guy in Dallas. He charged me a lot of money too. Jim: Did you know that those documents were forged? Juan: It is of no matter. I have a right to be here and work. Jim: What is the "right" you speak of? Juan: The right of all Aliens. It is found in your Constitution. Read it! Jim: I have read it, but I do not remember it saying anything about rights for Aliens. Juan: It is in that part where it says that all men have Alien rights, like the right to pursue happiness. I wasn't happy in Mexico, so I came here. Jim: I think you’re referring to the declaration of Independence and that document speaks to unalienable rights, Not 'Alien' rights. Juan: Whatever.

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does cjerkoff thing that illegal aliens go thru the customs lines at the southern border.

adios

Jarvey [formerly Harvey]
Lancaster, Mexifornia
dial 1 for english

Why? Why? Why?
Why is it that the Democrats who garner about 49% of the Vote in the last two elections aren't being penalized for their blatant violation of the overall 70% plus support of Americans who want to end Illegal Immigration into the U.S., which is destroying this Nation. There is no question, the economic impact that Illegals impart to this Country is steadily bankrupting many programs aimed at assisting Low income Americans and will lead to economic disaster for all of America. Most all the Democrats in office have violated the America People and are not being held accountable for these actions. The Republicans have done better in this area, except with McCain and George Bush and some others. If McCain didn't have the Islamic Extremist issues, he would already be a non issue in his GOP Candidacy with his blatant violation of the GOP and his Amnesty desire for Illegals already inside the USA. Talk about a disaster in the making, when a Candidate for POTUS will not attempt to penalize those who have violated our Soverign rights and our Laws and who are here illegally and have the audacity to think they have rights guaranteed by our Constitution and Bill of Rights. Will America WAKE UP, and get rid of Democrats and Republicans who will not support our Sovereign rights as a PEOPLE. Do Americans really want the U.S.A. to beome the United Socialistic States of North America and basically deny their Children and Grandchildren all the rights that we, our Fathers, and our Forefathers, have realized and been blessed with, which is Freedom and Liberty. Vote for a Democrat or a RINO and we will continue to lose these rights until all is gone.
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