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Wednesday, December 05, 2007
Amanda Carpenter :: Townhall.com Columnist
Hillary Blames Wall Street for Home Foreclosures
by Amanda Carpenter
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Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton blamed Wall Street for the increase in home foreclosures and called for a $5 billion-plus "home protection" plan and tighter housing market regulations Wednesday.

“Wall Street not only enabled, but often encouraged, reckless lending," Clinton said at the NASDAQ MarketSite in Times Square.

In Manhattan, Clinton pitched a plan to protect borrowers who took out unaffordable home loans that are causing a $10 trillion upset in the domestic housing market. Low-interest “teaser” mortgage rates are scheduled to reset at higher rates through 2008, increasing payments for some by thousands of dollars, and more than 500,000 homeowners could lose their homes.

Swing states Florida, Nevada, California, Michigan and Ohio are among those states being hit hardest by foreclosures.

To stop this Clinton wants a 90-day "timeout" on foreclosures, a five-year interest freeze on mortgage payments for subprime borrowers, a federal licensing program for mortgage brokers and a requirement for the mortgage industry to submit monthly status reports to the government.

Clinton would also like to establish a $5 billion fund for things like “safety net housing” and home loan subsidies to help borrowers make their monthly payments.

CNBC host Maria Bartiromo asked Clinton in a televised interview Wednesday afternoon where the money would come from. Clinton said, “It’s going to come from where it comes from, from the budget, from emergency spending” and that it should be thought of as an economic stimulus package.

Bartiromo also asked “What’s to stop someone from gaming the system…the person who did all the wrong things by getting in over their head?”

Clinton told her, “There are some people who, in your words, would be considered to game the system, but the overall problem is so big that I don’t think we can be focused on the few that might benefit unjustifiably.”

In Clinton’s eyes, Wall Street is responsible for the foreclosure crisis, not those who signed expensive loans. “Wall Street helped create the foreclosure crisis, and Wall Street needs to help solve it,” she in her speech to Wall Street.

Clinton warned if investors would not agree to her plan to freeze foreclosures, she would require them to by law. “If we cannot reach a voluntary agreement [with Wall Street], I will consider legislation to address the problem,” she said.

To sweeten her offer, she said she’d give “legal protection” to those who went along with the plan. “I am prepared to consider giving legal protection to servicers and others who administer these loans and who do the right thing by balancing the interests of the homeowners, the investors, and our economy,” Clinton said.

President Bush is scheduled to make a speech about the housing crisis and offer his own relief plan Thursday.

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Amanda Carpenter is the author of “The Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy's Dossier on Hillary Clinton,” published in October 2006.
 
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JD's Handsome Son
Let them eat cake!

Good idea
Put a socialist in charge, Hillery has a big government solution to every thing.

Big government solutions are the answer. Like the low flush toilet mandated by congress.

Gee, if we flush two or three times it might get the job done.

To bad we can't flush Hillery and the mess she drags around with her.

What happened to the free market solution? If they couldn't afford it, then they shouldn't have bought it in the first place.

Give these poor dumb people a break
How can you reasonably expect people to know that adjustable rate mortgages adjust? These people aren't real estate lawyers for god's sake!

Why is it that all great liberal ideas cost so much more than the problems those ideas hope to fix?

It's no surprise
"In Clinton’s eyes, Wall Street is responsible for the foreclosure crisis, not those who signed expensive loans."

This is one of the many problems of our society. You're never to blame for the mistakes you make. There's always an excuse and you should never be held accountable for any mistake. Our politicians are at the root of this evil with the legislation they create to protect us and to punish those horrible entities that forced us into making bad decisions.

Without government "protecting" us we'd all be doomed and wouldn't be able to care for ourselves, right?

Big Government
"Bush administration had hammered out an agreement with industry to freeze interest rates for certain subprime mortgages for five years in an effort to combat a soaring tide of foreclosures."

Yep, that Hillary sure gets in the way of the market.

Oh, and Amanda gets it wrong when she says "a five-year freeze on mortgage payments for subprime borrowers,", the freeze is on interest rates as noted in each of the 34 related articles from which Amanda gets her story.

I really think this Hillary obsession can't be healthy.

This is unreal
She is going to compell companies to bail out people that got in over their heads. Nice. Maybe I should let my mortgage go deliquent and ask for a handout. This is crazy.

Bartiromo blew it on the follow up. She should have asked,"Isn't your bail out going to come from the taxpayers, 97% of which are paying their mortgages on time?"

It's not coming from emergency spending. It's coming from the producers.....just like it always does. And I'm not talking about the "evil rich" here. EVERYONE that pays their mortgage on time is paying for this one!

Comrads- everyone should have a house
If we just get rid of the private sector and have the goverment build all the homes we would not need to license brokers.

Comrades, the democratic party does not go far enough. After Comrad Hillary takes control of the government, like Comrade Hugo in Venensula we can have housing committees to decide who gets a house and who does not

It wll be like in Dr. Zervago, you will have all kinds of people living in your house.

Hill
She is bad but at least she doesn`t hide her Socialist/Communist ideas.

Honestly most of the others running for (and serving in) public office have the same Government-to-the-rescue bent and the same nonchalance about where the money comes from. The last majority Republican Congress taught us that.

Funny, no one ever thinks to ask where in the Constitution`s list of enumerated powers of the federal government do you find the authority to
a) use public funds for housing citizens and b) prescribe interest rates for private lenders to use with private citizens in a private transaction.

While we`re at it, where in the Constitution do you find authority for FEMA, EPA, DOE, etc? Answer: You don`t unless you are a liberal judge who thinks the thing is a "living document" you can interpret to your own will.

How about Casinos?

Detroit has 3 huge new Casinos.... They're about the only lights left in the city.

People by the thousands are losing their homes due to Gambling excess. Several fathers have killed themselves right in front of the casino doors. One Police officer blew his head off at a card table.

The Democrats built these houses of horror...

And Hillary blames Wall street?



Well, here's a thought
Those one-way-ticket-to-disaster subprime loans may turn out to have been the best investment of the last few years. Those smart enough to have bought a home they can't possibly afford may now get it handed to them on a silver platter: what a brilliant investment scheme!

Meanwhile poor, dumb me and family will continue in our rented house, paying tens of thousands to someone else and wondering where we'll sleep when we're old. My fault: I should have been smart enough to take out a loan I could never repay.

Carlos
Hillary blames Wall Street because she honestly does not like free-market capitalism. Note however that she didn't hate it so much that she hesitated to invest $10,000.00 that made a tenfold return in only three months. I'm sure you knew that, though! ;)

Seriously, the ones to blame are the banks for lending money to people whom they knew weren't qualified to receive these loans in the first place.

Now we get to bail them out. Again. *sigh*

AliveInHim

Correct... I loved Bill and Hillary's "Blind trust". It was loaded with Exxon and Pfizer stock.

Of course, they unloaded that before she announced her bid for the White House.

A "Blind Trust" with 20/20 Vision. Go figure:)

GOOD POINTS, ALL
Yes, the government should step in and bail out all of these $15,000-$20,000 a year mortgage holders living in $300,000 homes. They should put a freeze on the lenders so these 50 year, reverse amortization mortgage holders get a break.
Of course.
Now, along with health care, homeownership is a 'right' in the 'two America's' we live in.
After all, 'it takes a village,' right?
Jim, as the good doctor said," this arrangement is more just."
Step up, comrades. Who will be the first on the 'Housing Soviet' in your hometown?

I think
that the home owners and the mortgage holders took a gamgle. They both lose, end of story.

However, I won't be surprised if a type of debtor prison system is not the end result. Crazy, you might say, intolerable here in the USA, you may add.....Lets just wait and see.

Voluntary?
"Clinton warned if investors would not agree to her plan to freeze foreclosures, she would require them to by law. “If we cannot reach a voluntary agreement [with Wall Street], I will consider legislation to address the problem,” she said."

If you don't do it voluntarily, I'll make you do it! What does she consider the definition of "voluntary" to be? Do these evil socialists even listen to themselves?

Say NO! to socialism - say NO! to Hillary!

bailouts
there we no bailouts after the dot-com bubble of 99-2000, didn't hear a peep from the power-whores then. This is all about the coming election. Hillary is the biggest grandstander/panderer ever, except for Billy Boy, of course. Even Bush bought into it, sheesh. I would just as soon vote 'em all out, they're all just a bunch of pocket-picking junkies taking advantage of short attention spans and people looking for a hand-out.

Never will a democrat
actually put the blame for people's problems where it belongs. Every foolish behavior is rewarded with other people's money and sweat. No wonder so many people act irresponsibly. I'm really tired of having to pay their way.

Let her talk!
Every other time the woman opens her yap,out come insanity.

It seems that any crazy idea she has will be forced on us at the point of a legal gun.

Sorry Mrs. Clinton, but you are NOt the POTUS.

Keep up the good work though, it's a laugh a day in a somewhat humorless world.

I would let these greedy idiots...
...lose thier houses. However, the fed can not allow the housing market to fold. The long term ramifications to the economy would be devastating. The solution that Bush has come up with, to freeze mortgage rates, is not a great solution but it's better than straight bailout.

Let The Market Clear
If this is left alone it will sort itself out the way market corrections always do. Government interference will distort the market and set us up for more problems later. Most people that are involved in this mortgage mess are not going to lose their houses and the lenders being burned will learn a lesson if they are not bailed out.

The lenders that are taking the hits would do well to work things out with the borrowers that are in trouble. Adjusting the rates without government interference so that people can keep their houses is better than forcing many into foreclosure and flooding a down market with more houses. The lenders taking the foreclosed houses end up with homes they can't sell for the value of the mortgage and if they drop the price to move the house it just drives the market lower.

Resetting the mortgages voluntarily will allow the market to stabilize. This will protect their investments better than taking homes they have to sell at a loss. If the government says the lenders are on their own they will deal with the homeowners to fix most of this voluntarily. If the government sticks it's nose in to protect anybody in this mess it will all happen again sometime in the future with the taxpayer picking up the tab. Anytime a politician buys a vote the taxpayer pays the bill.

Yes Bush has shown his
true conservative roots joining forces with Shrillary in this plan to "freeze" the interest rates of a select few "winners". I can hardly wait for RINO Bush to be out of office. I said a few months back that perhaps he could be impeached so that Cheney could finish out his term and end this "caving" to the liberals. I guess it's too late now. The remaining question on this issue is…..what will the government give the banks for freezing these loans? If it's my tax money I want a similar bill to give me tax money for a delinquent loan. I need a new truck, and although I haven't bought a car on time in over 20 years, I'll make an exception this time.

And finally, if Shrillary wants to find who to blame for this subprime mess, she needs to look no further than that idiot partner she has in NY, good old Chuckie Cheesehead. He castigated the bankers for not giving the "poor" a better shot at home ownership and denying them loans.

Well he got what he wanted.

hmmmm
Hillary should just fly to the moon and live there so she can be the leader for life there. idiot socialist pig

Bush & Hillary Mortgage Plan ?
Bush Mortgage Plan Will Freeze Certain Subprime Interest Rates for 5 Years



FOX- The Bush administration has hammered out an agreement with industry to freeze interest rates for certain subprime mortgages for five years in an effort to combat a soaring tide of foreclosures, congressional aides said Wednesday.

These aides, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the details have not yet been released, said the five-year moratorium represented a compromise between desires by banking regulators for a longer time frame of as much as seven years and industry arguments that the freeze should only last one to two years.

READ MORE

http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/bush-mortgage-plan -will-freeze-certain-subprime-interest-rates-for-5-years


"If you don't do it voluntarily..."
"If you don't do it voluntarily, I'll make you do it!"

EXACTLY the way the federal income tax works.

Damned idiot losers!
Years ago, we bought our house with a ARM. We did the homework and KNEW exactly how much the load could have gone up to if we had kept it and whether or not we could afford it. We switched to a fix rate a few years later when the rates came down. How is it possible that these idiots were too stupid to realize this??

Also, didn't Congress mandate loosening up the qualifying standards in order to allow people who normally would never qualify for a loan, to suddenly get in over their heads? Now they need a freaking bailout!! Big surprise genius!

Hillary and Wall Street
Has this woman lost her mind rewarding people who haven't got the brains God gave them with money from thoes who do. Wall Street had nothing to do with this. The hurting and the blame is placed exactaly where it belongs on the lending banks and mortgage companys.

Jack Cruger

ARMs
have always been a house of cards. Any slightest breeze and away they go.
I guess I don't have the stomach for that level of gambling.
As to the blame game, we elect the lesser of the evils as we see it and the elected created the mess by legislation allowing the under employed to bury themselves. If enough of them comit suicide it will unload the welfare roles and save soc sec til the can find things to spend the savings on.
The vision is usually longer term than the media tend to look.

FDIC Is Scared
Yesterday an FDIC principal said that now thru 2008 the rates on 1.7 million subprime ARMs will adjust, and that 1.5 million of them will immediately be in default because the borrowers won't be able to make the higher mortgage payments.

If the lenders and borrowers already know this now, then they also knew it at the time the loan was made, which means 1.5 million fraudulent and unaffordable loans were issued to begin with.

What a pile of BS!

Central Banks and the Fed Reserve
All of this mess, including the $415 trillion in derivatives floating around the world, are due to Central Banks and the trickle down to all financial institutions of the policies of Central Banks.

No wonder, Jefferson, Jackson, Lincoln, JFK were against the central banks power grabs.

By creating crisis, Central Banks (Rockefeller, Rothschild descendants, Morgans, etc.) are moving us to a one world "shadow government," that leaves all governments in place but only as puppets to them and their money supply tactics that create the boom/bust cycles they use to gain more power.


The Bilderbergs
When Bill Clinton was invited to the Bilderberg's secret meeting, before he won the nomination for his party to run as President, one author predicted that "invitation," was a sign that he had been chosen as the nominee before it ever happened.

Hillary is just as much "in bed" with central banking as was Bill (NAFTA, NAU, Globalist) Clinton. Neither he nor she is a friend of the working men and women of America at any income level.

SteveM
You're absolutely correct! As usual, Congress gets into businesses and haven't the faintest idea of what they are doing! Had they not pushed "affordable" mortgages for people that have atrocious credit, we wouldn't be in this mess!

ARM Mess
I guess you can rip up all the 'gulible fools' who took out the teaser rates, betting on the come of a bigger paycheck tomorrow or rates going down, but two people signed those contracts, and one of them is suppose to be an expert and professional. The other a happy wannabe homeowner that in some cases, I'm sure, thinks this is the perfect way to go.

It's like listening to all those ads on buying gold. People get caught up in their dcesires and may not have the mental tools to make these big decisions. And here is where I get annoyed that the banking/mortgage industry, which used to have standards and helped people make rational choices, including 'you are not qualified to take this loan', are in short supply. Surely the industry can develop...or use the standards they have had in the past to not make risky loans and put their own client to risk.

Maybe lenders should have to hold their own notes for 3-5 years before selling them on the finacial market to wake them up.

It's of little value, in the context of our national economy, to beat up the buyers for their lack of good decision making. For my part, I think the industry as a whole needs this wakeup hiatus to develop standards which they can all abide by that will protect investors, buyers and lending institutions and taxx payers.

WE THE PEOPLE should expect quality standards NOW!

Colonel DOUG

Thank Congressional Social Engineers
For this mess. In 1970, congress passed the Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corporation Act and gave us Freddie Mack. The purpose of Freddie Mack was to ensure that home loans were granted to otherwise unworthy (subprime) borrowers. I suspect that pandering to the civil rights movement might have been involved.

According to http://www.foreclosure.com/freddie_mac.html
"Freddie Mac purchases mortgages from banks then bundles together several thousand such mortgages into a tradable security and sells the package to large investors."

In other words, Freddie Mack has been leaning on lenders to write these subprime loans. The lenders are only a pass-through and make a commission on each loan they write, but do not get stuck holding the paper. Those of us who have securitized mortgages in our retirement funds, stock portfolios, and other investments now own the paper.

Like the savings and loan bail out, we the tax payers and the productive/investing class will bear the brunt of this fiasco.

Freddie Mac - correct
Our "progressive" society has been leaning on lenders to "open up," and "don't worry," the government will help if there is a problem.

Galltegfa's analysis that this problem dates back to Freddie Mac is correct. I might go even further and go to the real beginnings of the "New Deal," where we use government to bail us out of everything.

Yes, pain and suffering of any individual is sad. We used to have, however, the concept of keeping the nation strong so that we could continue to provide in the long run, the basic needs we all have to have, like national defense and leave the rest to the states.

Now we are approaching a time when we may find ourselves in such a national, financial bind where other nations stop lending to us, we can't even provide basic needs.

I want my share too
for years I have worked, I have brown bagged my lunch, I have gone without vacations, I have learned to repair items around the house, I have painted my own $100,000 house. I don’t feel I can afford an ATV or a boat or a cabin or a time share at the mountains or beach. All just to save a few cents with which to send my kids to college.

Now the wicked witch of the East wants me to subsidize an idiot who purchased a $300,000 home while earning a lesser salary than mine. She also wants to take my childrens’ educational opportunities and give them to illegal invaders (thru the SAVE program) who through no fault of their own just happen to be in the US.

Freezing the rates will only encourage more contractors to build at inflated prices to sell to more unqualified people with no-qualification loans. Bull, Let the buyers loose thier homes they really have no equity in them anyway, in fact with re accessment of value they may be upside down. Let the lenders eat the loss in their highly speculative lucrative loans. Let the builders go bankrupt if they have not already pocketed their gains from the inflated housing prices. Come back on the accessors who provided exaggerated evaluations to obtain these loans.

How about subsidizing me for a change, I’m the one who is paying for this magnanimity of taxpayer funds.

Give a liberal a heart attack . . . . admit you have a Mother . . . AND . . . a Father


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STOP the Fair Tax SCHEME

The FairTax Scheme is a double tax on the savings of the citizens of the US. Ask Rep Linder (sponsor of the bill) why income (savings/investments/retirements/inheritances/home equity) taxed under the income tax system is not excluded from a double taxation at the point of sale consumption tax. You’ll get a rino, libtard, bushacrat, chillary double speak non-answer.

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FairTax
There will be no double taxation (income plus sales tax) because there will be NO MORE INCOME TAX or withholding or corporate taxes. Once implemented, the FairTax will only be applied to new retail items. Retail items will not cost more, even after the sales tax is added, because the embedded taxes (income & withholding taxes of anyone who touched the item during the process and all corporate taxes) will no longer be there. And the good news is, you'll get to take home your whole paycheck (less state or local taxes), so your disposable income just got a major boost.

The FairTax is designed only to replace current taxes, not reduce them; that's another conversation that should be had after people see directly how much of their money the government keeps at the cash register.

But perhaps the most promising feature of the "Fair Tax Scheme" is that because it eliminates corporate taxes, the USA will suddenly be a much more favorable environment for manufacturing. All those jobs that have left because of onerous corporate taxes will return; new business will come here, and bring new manufacturing jobs.

Read the EFFFING Book!!! OR GO TO:

http://www.fairtax.org

Two points
1. Mrs. Clinton's description of an "economic stimulus package" involves a handout to those who made bad choices. This contrasts with the conservative concept of an economic stimulus being tax cuts that allow private citizens and businesses to keep more of their own money and thus control how it is spent.

2. One poster complains the Bush "hammered out" out a deal to freeze rates at subprime level for five years on these mortgages. The poster complained that this means Repubs/Cons were thye party of big government.

Well, maybe.

Except that "prime" is essentially determined by the federal government in the first place. So maybe, if the federal gov't wasn't setting prime at an artificial rate these mortgage rates might not be changing or rising to where the homeowners can't afford them.

I like Doug's idea
"Maybe lenders should have to hold their own notes for 3-5 years before selling them on the finacial market to wake them up."

Galltegfa, "The FairTax is designed only to replace current taxes" Yes, but we have to make sure we don't end up with BOTH.

Smoke and mirrors
The crisis is not the increase in the number of people who are defaulting on loans for their houses. It is the crisis in confidence in the financial industry that is the big risk. Complex investment instruments were created with sub-prime loans that the rating agencies said were AAA. It turns out they had unidentified risks. The people, including our new buddies the Chinese and other foreign investors, bought these things and are now loosing money. This undermines their confidence and they question further investment because they do not trust our financial markets and the rating agencies. This causes tightening for credit that the non-multinational corporations and the consumers have come to rely on. This threatens the prosperity we built on credit over the past 20 or so years.

The big bailouts to worry about are a stock market driven Fed continuing to lower interest rates and the related devaluation of the dollar to prop up profits of multi-nationals. A few billion by Hillery and the treasury helping out a few folks at the bottom is a smoke screen. We are talking trillions in derivatives here.

For Galltegfa
Galltegfa writes:

Read the EFFFING Book!!! OR GO TO:

http://www.fairtax.org

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I have read both of them and the book has a statement to the effect that savings taxed under the income tax system will be subject to the FairTax SCHEME taxation just as any other monies. That means savings taxed by the income tax system is double taxed. Once when it was earned (maybe years ago) and again when it is spent.

I do agree with you on this point it is a EFFFing Book.

I think VIC will confirm what he has recently learned by reading the book. He q uoted the passage written in the back of the book confirming that there would be NO consideration for previously taxed savings. Ergo the FairTax SCHEME IS a double tax on savings previously taxed.

He also discovered that all medical services would be subject to taxation if the FairTax SCHEME is adopted. That would make a $60,000 treatment for cancer cost $73000 at the admitted 23% rate of taxation or $78000 at the true FairTax SCHEME rate of 30%.

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STOP the Fair Tax SCHEME

The FairTax Scheme is a double tax on the savings of the citizens of the US. Ask Rep Linder (sponsor of the bill) why income (savings/investments/retirements/inheritances/home equity) taxed under the income tax system is not excluded from a double taxation at the point of sale consumption tax. You’ll get a rino, libtard, bushacrat, chillary double speak non-answer.

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Rational decision making
Many people acquired residential real estate as investments over the past several years. They paid $600,000 for the property and have a mortgage payment of $40,000 per year.They assumed the property's value would go up $50000/year every year, and they were told they could rent the property for $40000 per year.

Now they are finding that their rent is closer to $20000 than $40000. Their mortgage is due to increase to $50000 per year. And guess what? There are three for sale signs in thir block and the value of their house is more along the lines of $500,000.

When things were rolling we watched these people smoke cigars and snap their suspenders because they were so much smarter than other people who weren't on the edge. Sort of reminds me of the day traders of the late 90's.

Is it pleasant to see this? No. However, do I want to take $ out of my pocket to bail this out? Can't say that I'm thrilled to reach for my wallet.

Tax on Savings
FairTax is only collected on retail purchases of new items. Don't want your savings taxed at the point of sale, don't buy new retail. Regarding medical and other expenses, if you think there are no embedded taxes in those costs now, I recommend you think again. The FairTax only replaces the current taxes, it does not eliminate them. The FairTax is not a perfect plan, nor does it claim to be, but it is a far cry better than the current system.

I somehow doubt detractors of the FairTax are willing to defend the current system. Most people who get into this discussion favor the flat tax. But the folks who came up with the FairTax, to the tune of almost $25 million worth of analysis, were tasked with coming up with a system that would replace the current system and eliminate its shortcomings. They fully expected to come up with the flat tax, but after much work discovered that the sales tax was the better way to go.

There is Only One Solution
There is only one solution to America's problems, including this one outlined by this article. Remove all socialist Democrats in Office and RINO's like Bush. A Free Market will always eliminate those who lose money, including the holders of subprime mortgages. One must be made ACCOUNTABLE for ones own actions. This is a MUST. Socialist/Progressive/Commies known today as Demonrats are responsible for this fiasco that we find ourselves in today. This is not the responsibility of our Federal Government and we should immediately start today to remove all Legislatures and rescind the Socialistic Agenda that started back in FDR's time, which was expanded greatly by LBJ, and continued by Democrats and RINO's in office today. George Bush ran as a Conservative, but that is not how he has governed. George Bush has violated the Conservative base of the GOP and we should all learn from this lesson. We need to hold Lincoln-Douglas type debates for all our future legislatures and we need in place the ability to remove any who violate our wishes immediately.
Enact the Fair Tax, eliminate the IRS and prevent future Legislatures from selling out American's for Campaign contributions. Repeal the 16th and 17th Admendments and return that Power back to the States and the PEOPLE.

Everyone should be reminded periodically
that this mess is nowhere near the problem that it has been made out to be.

First off the problem is only in areas where real estate had experienced an “unnatural” escalation in price, sort of the real estate version of the “irrational exuberance” of the stock market for high tech stuff a few years back. It is also only in those loans that were made in the volatile variable interest rate variety to people who were really not qualified for those loans under the loan rules of a decade ago.

What has happened is that when interest rates went up and the loan rates went up, the people who were already of marginal ability could no longer afford to pay the loans. Now here is the kicker, since the loans were made the bubble in those areas has burst and the house is no longer worth the amount that was loaned on it. The bank can not simply foreclose and sell the house and get their money back.

cont...

pt 2

This situation is confined to a very small portion of the real estate market in the U.S. The foreclosure rate among normal loans is, well, normal. The real estate market in areas that had not experienced the “unnatural” boom is still fine. In fact, building in a new subdivision down the street from me is been ongoing through all of this with no letup.

So why all of the gloom and doom? Two reasons; first the media is in business to sell advertising. It gets this by getting a lot of viewers. Mundane “everything is OK” news does not get viewers. Catastrophe and hyperbole get viewers. So it is in the media’s interest to make everything look bad and not just bad but exceptionally bad. The second reason is politics. In Hillary’s case we have another “poor” individual who is being thrown out in the streets at Christmas because of the evil Mr. Scrooge at the counting house. What better situation for a Lamocrat to exploit. IN the case of other politicians they are working on behalf of K Street. Those banks that are affected in these areas need a bailout or some of them will have to sell off a few of their summer homes. So they have invented “dire consequences” for the economy and with help from the useful idiots in the media they have created a scare and a bug in their favorite politician’s ears.

And finally, who gets the bill for all of this? As always, the taxpayers get the bill.

Men are from Mars....Part1
...women are from Venus and many on this site today demonstrate once again they are from the planet Zarcon in a parallel galaxy where ideology is never trumped by inconvenient things like facts.

To be charitable, the general understanding of the larger economic issues reflected here is akin to my 11-year-old's grasp of quantum physics.

At least Carpenter manages to find the real culprit in the subprime mortgage mess, Hillary Clinton. Certainly all of us know Hillary is the anti-Christ, hates America and causes problems ranging from teenage acne to Islamofascism. Yet I have to admit it is a great feat of legerdermain to pin this tail on Hillary's ample backside. Bush Treasury Secretary Henry Paulsen must appreciate everyone taking the spotlight off the problem and onto Clinton, who has had as much to do with creating this crisis as she did creating polio vaccine.

As a REALTOR (albeit on the commercial side), I see the effect of this subprime housing bubble every day. It’s not just the affected homes that are effected, as many here claim, it is every piece of property in America that is devalued by the large inventory of unsold houses on the market. You may have bought your home 10 years ago, made every payment on time and been completely responsible, but your property values have plummeted due to this problem. Need to sell for any reason? It’s going to cost you big money.

Many of the builders and developers I work with are also suffering and when they catch cold, others get the flu. They may not have built a single house, like the shopping center developer I work with regularly, but the credit crunch is making the deals he had in place unworkable. That means the employees working on those developments are being laid off, their families are suffering and their mortgage payments are falling behind.

Men are from Mars...Pt. 2
As our interest rates fall to counteract the recessionary impact of the housing crisis, it makes everything we import more expensive. The value of the dollar, which has been in free fall lately, is falling even farther. This means everything we buy from overseas is more expensive. Wonder why gas prices seem to be going through the roof? At least in part, the cost is due to the fact that much of our oil is imported and the dollar just doesn’t buy what it used to.

Still think you don’t have a dog in this fight? Well think about this. I know another REALTOR whose entire firm is now specializing in real estate short sales. These are the homes being sold that are “upside down,” where the borrower owes more than the home is worth on today’s market. Banks are taking hits of $10,000, $20,000 or much more per house in order to get these debts settled. You think they are going to eat that loss? Looked at your credit card interest rate, late fees and what you are paying for other financial products lately? Still think banks are taking the hit?

For once, let’s put the blame where it belongs, on the deregulation of the financial industry over the past 25 years. The entire structure of financial regulation that was put in place following the Great Depression has been dismantled over the past quarter century. The very rules and regulations that were put in place to prevent these kinds of problems have been repealed. Interest rates have been deregulated. Transparency in lending is gone. Conflicts of interest in the financial industry are endemic. Most bankers I know don’t understand what the rules are anymore, don’t understand the financial products they are selling and cannot tell you what risks we are running.

Men are from Mars...Pt.3
Certainly those who took out these loans are partially to blame, but who created the products that allowed them to get in over their heads? The subprime mortgage market was designed specifically to lure them into buying house they could not afford through teaser rates that would increase dramatically over time. This was an industry DESIGNED to get people into houses they could not afford so the initiators of these mortgages could make a quick buck from the front-end fees, points and other payments. They got rich and everybody else – including you and me – was left holding the bag. And believe me, it’s going to get worse before it gets better.

But who am I kidding? It’s a lot easier to blame this on Hillary Clinton.

Men are from Mars....Pt. 2
(And why does TH put Pt. 3 before Pt. 2)

As our interest rates fall to counteract the recessionary impact of the housing crisis, it makes everything we import more expensive. The value of the dollar, which has been in free fall lately, is falling even farther. This means everything we buy from overseas is more expensive. Wonder why gas prices seem to be going through the roof? At least in part, the cost is due to the fact that much of our oil is imported and the dollar just doesn’t buy what it used to.

Still think you don’t have a dog in this fight? Well think about this. I know another REALTOR whose entire firm is now specializing in real estate short sales. These are the homes being sold that are “upside down,” where the borrower owes more than the home is worth on today’s market. Banks are taking hits of $10,000, $20,000 or much more per house in order to get these debts settled. You think they are going to eat that loss? Looked at your credit card interest rate, late fees and what you are paying for other financial products lately? Still think banks are taking the hit?

For once, let’s put the blame where it belongs, on the deregulation of the financial industry over the past 25 years. The entire structure of financial regulation that was put in place following the Great Depression has been dismantled over the past quarter century. The very rules and regulations that were put in place to prevent these kinds of problems have been repealed. Interest rates have been deregulated. Transparency in lending is gone. Conflicts of interest in the financial industry are endemic. Most bankers I know don’t understand what the rules are anymore, don’t understand the financial

Galltegfa . buying used used underwear?
RE: FairTax is only collected on retail purchases of new items. Don't want your savings taxed at the point of sale, don't buy new retail.

Now that statement alone represents the level of intelligence of a FairTax SCHEME advocate.

Why do you think I saved for 40+ years? To buy your used underwear? Get real.

The FairTax SCHEME is a double taxation on the savings of the American citizen.

If as you say I your next sentences the FairTax SCHEME only REPLACES the current taxes why is it being imposed for the second time as a tax on savings?

As far as $25 million worth of analysis goes it is only worth as much as integrity of the analyzer and how much he wants to please the sponsor of the analysis. If Klintoon can redefine the word IS, then the analyzer can come up with ANY interpretation you are willing to pay for.

If there are any embedded taxes in the medical bills they are paid by the insurance company. If they are in addition to the medical bills they will be paid by the consumer.

RE: “The FairTax is not a perfect plan, nor does it claim to be, but it is a far cry better than the current system.”

The FairTax SCHEME is an abomination to the person who has to live on his or her own savings that were taxed by the income tax system. It is a confiscation of 1/3 of their savings. As bad as the income tax system is, the FairTax SCHEME is Multiple times worse.

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STOP the Fair Tax SCHEME

The FairTax Scheme is a double tax on the savings of the citizens of the US. Ask Rep Linder (sponsor of the bill) why income (savings/investments/retirements/inheritances/home equity) taxed under the income tax system is not excluded from a double taxation at the point of sale consumption tax. You'll get a rino, libtard, bushacrat, chillary double speak non-answer.

‹(•¿•)› .

Huckabee on mortgage crisis
Finally, the voice of reason! Watch this short video (2:15 minutes).

Go Mike!!!!

link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbOHybwMfMc

link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbOHybwMfMc

Go Mike!

THANK YOU SO MUCH, KEN
in your charitable dismissal of all the points laid out by the posters in this column.
The REALTORS and bankers that you mentioned in your reply, the ones who do not perform what is known as due diligence on prospective buyers, we are supposed to bail them out now that they have left us 'holding the bag'?
Aren't these your COLLEAGUES?
And with respect to your statement about 'financial products' such as credit cards, etc., myself, having two Roth IRA's, a vested pension, a 401k that I recently enrolled in plus only a couple of hundred dollars in credit card debt, I have been practicing that cold, callous and typically conservative trait known as living within my means.
So, speaking for myself, your dire predictions about these 'financial products' falls on deaf ears. With that said, please don't expect me to shed any tears for lenders who do not perform due dilegence or people living way over their heads.
Just to recap your statements:
1) The government screwed it up.
2) The government will fix it.
3) Shut my mouth and don't kick or complain when Madame Hillary wants to take my money and fix a problem created by the government and your colleagues.
That about sum it up?

Standtall...
Well said. Of course, there are four parties involved in most home purchases, the buyer, his realtor, and his mortgage broker/banker. By reading Ken's comments, apparently the realtor holds no responsibilities; their pay isn't based on how high a price home the buyer purchases, right!?

It has been a few years since I last purchased a home but as I recall the realtor helps the buyer determine what he can afford based on income and stears the buyer to a home in that price range. And most realtors I ever dealt with all had a handle on the various financing packages that were available and could help steer the buyer away from dangerous loans that the buyer couldn't afford.

Of course, since the realtor (like stock brokers) only get paid on a transaction, and the higher the better, Ken's counterparts in the residential arena would never try to push a buyer into something that is unwise, now would he!? (That's a rhetorical question)

COLOSTEVE
Of course he has no responsibility.
And all of his wordiness about 'recessionary impact of the housing crisis' really means it's a
buyers market. If I were a person looking to buy a home it seems like I have a pitbull in this fight.
And his comments about the 'commercial sector', you know, the guys who build the strip malls that are half empty all the time, and the contractors who have to lay off workers and in turn, those workers can't pay their mortgages, where?
In Mexico?
Where I live all of these 'developers' employ illegals to skirt Workers Compensation and Disability coverage anyway. So the crows are coming home to roost.
But what right have we to complain, Steve?
We're all from the planet Zarcon in the parallel galaxy.

If anyone is still listening
Our paper just published an article about the freeze with about 8 comments from politicians and various other "stakeholders", all of whom praised the move to the skies, but some cautioned that the freeze didn't go far enough.

A Republican pol was quoted as saying that the only one who might have an argument about this was investors who thought they were going to get a higher return on their investment and now will not get as high a return.

That's the spirit of rugged individualism our country was founded on. Take a risk, and if it doesn't work, Uncle Sam will bail you out if enough people complain loudly enough.

It's not just the sub prime loans
While everyone is talking about the rising intrest rates. No one has mentioned SKY ROCKETING PROPERTY TAXES. Maybe regging property taxes back to accecptable levels would keep many people from loosing their homes.

It's not just the sub prime loans
While everyone is talking about the rising intrest rates. No one has mentioned SKY ROCKETING PROPERTY TAXES. Maybe getting property taxes back to accecptable levels would keep many people from loosing their homes.
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