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Friday, August 31, 2007
Amanda Carpenter :: Townhall.com Columnist
Liberals Plan to Gut FISA
by Amanda Carpenter
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Martin said at the panel, “If we are talking foreign-to-foreign communications overseas, not involving U.S. persons, then, I can’t think of a reason why it wouldn’t be a good idea.”

DeRosa, who was a member of the National Security Council staff under President Clinton before becoming chief counsel for national security on Capitol Hill, clarified the problem. She said current law requires that “procedures are reasonably designed to determine the interceptions are concerning persons overseas, not directed at persons overseas, but concerning people overseas.”

The new distinction that foreign communications need only “concern” foreign persons is what troubles DeRosa. “It’s really very unclear what that is intended to address and what its consequences are,” DeRosa said.

FBI Director Robert Mueller said new technology required a different way of defining “foreign communications” on July 26 before the House Judiciary Committee.

He said: “The ability in a variety of ways through digital networks, whether it by Skype, voice over IP, otherwise, the ability of persons to utilize communication capabilities across international lines has grown immensely over the years, and the statutory framework has not kept up with it….with internationalization, we have to be astute and flexible in understanding that those who wish to do us harm from overseas can quickly cross borders with the click of a mouse or come into the country.”

Regardless of Democratic disagreement with the Bush administration on this issue, DeRosa said it would be in the Democratic leadership’s interest to vote on FISA reauthorization quickly, before the sunset date approaches and presidential primaries begin.

The Washington Post reported on August 30 that Majority Leader Sen. Harry Reid (D.-Nev.) and Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D.-Calif.) said a private conference call made during August recess that they would “confront the president next month over his wiretapping program” as well as “also push legislation to restore habeas corpus rights for terrorism suspects and may resume an effort to close the prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.”

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Amanda Carpenter is the author of “The Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy's Dossier on Hillary Clinton,” published in October 2006.
 
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What are you talking about?
The Democrats are gutting or torpedoing FISA??? And even if they are, isn't that what you conservatives want?

Let's see ... when the Bush administration first started wiretapping, many of its requests for warrants from FISA were turned down. So they simply did their wiretapping anyway, without getting (or requesting) warrants.

And now we have the so-called “Protect America Act of 2007." This act gives THE ATTORNEY GENERAL the authority to issue warrants for international wiretapping, with no FISA and no court review of any sort. As far as I know, it was mainly the Republicans who were pushing for this provision, to make Bush's warrantless spying legal.

Why, exactly, is Ms. Carpenter criticizing the "liberals" for planning to "gut FISA"? The Bush administration has been ignoring FISA for five or six years now. It seems to me that if anyone would want to gut FISA, it would be Bush and company, so they can do their spying without having to get anyone's permission. Wouldn't "the liberals" (or TH's distortion of liberals) want to make spying on our enemies more difficult? Wouldn't gutting FISA have the opposite affect?

An unnecessary neocon blunder
If Bush/Cheney et al. had come to Congress to discuss the need, plan, and accountability for the NSA wiretap scheme, ways could have been found to reconcile it with FISA and keep everybody comfortable. But no, it had to be done on the sly, in keeping with the administration's obsessive secrecy and megalomaniacal mission to expand executive power at the expense of the political process. That Congress and NGOs tend to be suspicious of the administration's motives and methods is a direct result of Bushney's hubris, nothing else. It is the terrorists, not Americans, who ultimately benefit from the anti-constitutional trend towards closed government we've had to put up with since 2000, because that is precisely the kind of government they would impose if they had the opportunity.
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