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Thursday, June 07, 2007
Amanda Carpenter :: Townhall.com Columnist
Immigration Vote Awards Amnesty to Absconders
by Amanda Carpenter
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A vote to legalize illegal aliens who have defied court deportation orders was the first sign the Senate’s contentious immigration bill would survive a slew of “deal killer” votes Wednesday and meet the Thursday cloture deadline promised by Majority Leader Harry Reid (D.-Nev.).

This decision came via an amendment vote to the White-House backed immigration bill that seeks to provide legal status to the approximately 12 to 20 million illegal aliens currently living in the United States.

The bellwether amendment, sponsored by Sen. John Cornyn (R.-Tex.), sought to deny felons legal status, including those who defied a deportation order from a U.S. judge, those who used fraudulent documents to obtain work and sex offenders.

Democrats said Cornyn’s amendment would gut the bill because up to half the illegal immigration population likely had run-ins with Immigration and Custom Enforcement officials, or misused identification documents.

Cornyn’s measure was defeated 51 to 46.

Instead, Democrats pushed for a substitute amendment sponsored by Sen. Ted Kennedy (D.-Mass.) that would block some criminals, like terrorist supporters, from obtaining a z visa, but not those who had defied deportation orders or had used fraudulent documents to work in the United States. Kennedy’s amendment passed 66-32.

Cornyn said Kennedy’s version would still allow sex offenders and drunk drivers to obtain legal status.

In a speech on the Senate floor, Kennedy said the Cornyn amendment would classify “an array of common, garden-variety immigration offenses as crimes that would make them ineligible for the program."

Kennedy said, "Cornyn says that if you have used false identification, you may be found inadmissible and may be deported. But in our broken system, the people that have wanted to work face the reality of where we are today.”

Ten Republicans crossed party lines to vote against Cornyn’s amendment, including presidential candidate Sen. John McCain (R.-Ariz.).

After his amendment was defeated, Cornyn told reporters, “What people are most concerned about is that this bill, no matter what it looks like on the outside will be hollow in the inside and it will not be enforced and we will only see a repetition of what happened in 1986.”

This vote was the one of many votes that ran over into early Thursday morning and tested the Senate’s will to finally pass an immigration reform bill from their chamber.

Sen. Robert Menendez (D.-N.J.) pushed an amendment that could have broken the fragile compromise agreement key senators, or “grand bargainers,” reached while working on the bill. He wanted to move up the cut-off date for family members applying to come to the U.S. from May 2005 to January 2007. As the bill stood, those who applied after May 2005 who entered illegally would not be able to gain legal status. This amendment would have increased the total number of illegal aliens by more than 800,000. Continued...

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America's Future


These next 2 years are vital to the future of this country. For 2007 we must make certain that McCain/Kennedy or whatever it's called this year does not pass the House. It will pass the Senate. The President will sign it, followed by the Totalization Treaty with Mexico, which qualifies former illegals with just 6 qtrs(18 mo) even if worked illegally, the benefits that we had to work 40 qtrs(10 yrs) to qualify for.

In 2008 we must make the candidates address border security and immigration enforcement.
20-30 million citizens of other countries are in our country illegally, 55% from Mexico, most of the rest from other Central and South American countries. Let's not ignore the leftward voting trends of these countries. It is notable that they picked May Day, an old communist day of celebration for their marches.

Most polls show at least half of the American citizens of Hispanic descent want the borders and laws enforced. Republicans will not win by alienating their current voters to get 40% of a new small block that will grow very large, very fast if amnesty is granted. That will grow the Democrats vote larger and faster as the influx increases exponentially as the result of another amnesty. It will spell the end of the Republican Party. The people who used to vote Republican will stop voting or form a new party. Conservatives will lose political influence and we will slide inexorably towards socialism (it has already started).

Most of what you hear about this issue is political propaganda that tries to convince you to give up your country without a fight, including on Fox News. The big money players are all on board the cheap labor express, they care not that American citizens do not want another amnesty. We know the last one resulted in 10 times the number of illegal aliens and a general disregard of our laws. The next one will be equally successful.

We need Comprehensive Immigration Enforcement, not reform. We need to restore respect for the law and the faith of the American people that their government is not selling them out. Amnesty for the illegal aliens is also amnesty for the corrupt companies who have been employing them. Money trumps everything, including love of country. Multi-nationals have no loyalty to country by definition, they see us as a market, not a nation. They see people as workers, documented or undocumented, no difference. If they can't send the work to where the labor is cheaper, then they want to bring the cheap labor here. Citizenship is meaningless.

If we love our Constitution and our representative Republic and we intend to keep it we must not surrender our sovereignty or abandon the rule of law. Profits must not supercede security. We should not create a new path to citizenship. We have a path to citizenship, more generous than any other country, illegal aliens have ignored it and bad choices do have consequences.

March for America Events June 14, 15, 16

March for America June 14, 15, 16 Washington D.C. and state capitols across the country. Be there or be without a country.

http://www.lframerica.com/march2.html

People, let go of the dream
Politicians will NEVER do the right thing and vote against this. It goes in the face of what they are all about. We are doomed, get used to it.

That Time of Day
Its almost lunchtime and that means its time to email and fax all the senators on my list. Malkin has a good list on her site if your interested in joining me.

Lets turn up the heat!

tipping point?
at what point will there be a broad national concensus that things need to change?

Margaret Chase Smith once said that "if people really knew what was going on in washington, there would be a revolution."

And there essentially was a decade later.

Amendments, schmemendments!
None, absolutely none of them will ever be enforced. Our paper carried an AP column today that stated one of our Senators was "moving closer" to amnesty. This legislator initially voted for the bill to never come to the floor so WHY he would now, at this time, change his mind leaves us wondering. The whole immigration reform legislation is a joke, but not a funny one. Virginia Patriot, thank you for you post (as well as other posts from you on various 'immigration reform' columns.)

By the way, has anyone else used those
toll free numbers financed by George Soros, et al? I tried them one day last week and was amazed when my Senator (well, a staff member!)actually answered. Whenever I called this Senator's listed DC number I would get voice mail every time. I would like to know what others have had happen.

Concentrate on the House

The House is where this must be killed. The Senate will pass it. They sold us out last year. The only thing that has changed is that we lost a few votes. We all know the President will sign it. Every House member is up for re-election in 2008. Democrat and Republican. Everyone has to contact their House member, get your neighbors, friends, co-workers, etc. to do the same. Whether you voted for them or not, they need to hear from you. You can find them here:

http://www.house.gov.com/

Unthinkable but predictable
This whole blanket amnesty thing is just getting more and more ugly. And as long as politicians see a potential 20 million new voters against an apathetic population of 300 million, the newly-minted "legal" immigrants will win every time.

Another query: What makes these legislative cretins think they will ever get a handle on documenting these "new citizens?" My 79 year old parents applied (the first time they ever needed one) for a passport to take a cruise. They recieved said passports 14 weeks later - 2 weeks after they had to cancel their cruise.

And these Washington mushheads think they can screen 20 million immigrants in a timely fashion? I think not.

Cheers,

Ron Albright

http://www.ronalbright.com

It's great to be the king...
or an illegal, where you get more and better rights than actual citizens.

I wrote my
Senators and Congressman - to tell them to keep up the fight and oppose the Immigration Bill.

Got an email back from Sen. Cornyn - he thanked me for my opinion regarding Clinton's 'Count every vote act' - I have no idea what her Bill (either Bill) was about.

seems no answer would have been much better.

12 RINOS vote AGAINST FULL ENFORCEMENT..
12 RINOS vote AGAINST FULL ENFORCEMENT..
OF EXISTING LAW!!!!!! Senators VOTED to Not Enforce Our Laws!!!! ARE YOU KIDDING ME??!!

GOP Sens voting NAY on the Coburn amendment - that is, voting against full enforcement of existing immigration laws: LUGAR, KYL, CRAIG, VOINOVICH, COLLINS, MURKOWSKI, BROWNBACK, HAGEL, STEVENS, DOMENICI, WARNER, SPECTER

Sex Offenders and Drunk Drivers are A-OK
"Cornyn said Kennedy’s version would still allow sex offenders and drunk drivers to obtain legal status."

Coming from Kennedy, why would this surprise anyone?

By all means, welcome the felons
They'll just be committing the crimes Americans won't. Can you ever have enough identity thieves, gangbangers and terrorists?

An American would face jail time for using a fraudulent social security card. And tax evasion? Don't even think about it. Our all-knowing political ruling class has decided that some are more equal than others; who are we bigots to judge?

/Logic and reason surrender. RIP, Constitution and the rule of law.


How many states allow recalls?
The only thing that seems to get pols is loss of office or the threat of it. Some states allow a petition for a recall election for any reason. I bet if several petition drives were started on Senators who supported this and enough signatures were gathered it might cause them to table this issue. Due to fear of loss of office.

Kennedy in Total Denial
What a complete yo-yo this man is saying,“an array of common, garden-variety immigration offenses as crimes that would make them ineligible for the program." I have never read any documents of law, concerning immigration violations, lackadaisically call immigration violations "garden-variety".They are all violations that deserve punishment according to law. Then he goes on to say,"Cornyn says that if you have used false identification, you may be found inadmissible and may be deported. But in our broken system, the people that have wanted to work face the reality of where we are today.” He admits of a broken system that he has done nothing to fix. A past system he worked with, and denied its ability to do its job. He's a man of denial that has worked throughout his Senate career denying America of justice, while perverting justice.

My bad- 16 RINO's...
I expect Dems to vote against enforcing current law but not the GOP! By God EVEN A TEXAN!!! Ms. Hutchinson- you should be ashamed! I wish you would all be re-called!

***...The Coburn amendment 1311 to require full enforcement of existing immigration laws fails, 42-54.
GOP Sens voting NAY on the Coburn amendment - that is, voting against full enforcement of existing immigration laws: LUGAR, KYL, CRAIG, VOINOVICH, COLLINS, MURKOWSKI, BROWNBACK, HAGEL, STEVENS, DOMENICI, WARNER, SPECTER, GRAHAM,HUTCHINSON, BENNETT, MARTINEZ

Welcome, sociopaths!
I can just hear Ted Kennedy harrumphing, "well, no, we don't want terrorist supporters, but just because some of these poor people forged documents, well, you see, that's different, they had no other choice..."

Dear Lord in heaven!!!!!

Did it ever occur to these nitwits that illegals using fraudulent documents could be ANYBODY?

And we're going to shrug off drunk drivers and sex offenders? Where are all the MADD yowlers and all those people concerned about "the children" when we need them?

Reaganite had it right in his earlier post: an American citizen committing any of these offenses would be marched off to the slammer in record time.

This country has officially jumped the shark. I'd move to Australia, but they wouldn't let me in because I'm too old.

We Are Watching the Titanic Sink
This is a done deal, no matter what happens. This will be signed, sealed, and delivered prior to the 2008 elections.

Once it is done, the average joe and jolene will continue to spend their time watching american idol, the playoffs, The soprano's(re runs), Rosie O'Donnell, and not worry their pretty little heads about this.

The democrats will sweep into the White House, and both Houses of Congress on the wave of new Hispanic voters.

The ship is about to hit the ice berg, and there are not enough life boats to go around.

The newly minted citizens will be able to bring their parents and grand parents, over to immediately start drawing social security payments.




Crime Amendments
WE need more crime amendments this immigration debate is causing many Dems to vote for crime. That issue will kill them in the suburbs and exburbs. This bill is tottering but it needs a little more poison.

I still think it's a done deal
During debate in the House, we will hear a lot of political rhetoric, but it will pass basically as is.

You can contact your congress critters until you are blue in the face, but is is already a done deal.

Reality
Okay. First. I oppose this bill. I oppose it so much that if it passes that will be the last straw between me and this country.

But for reality. The newly legal formerly illegal aliens will not be allowed to vote. I am sure some will vote anyway, but most won't. If most Americans don't vote (and again if this bill passes I will be among them), why would they?

Second, family-based visas are restricted to children, spouses and parents of adult US citizens and brothers and sisters of US citizens as well as children and spouses of legal permanent residents.

Also, as for now, people that have worked in the US for less than 10 years are not eligible for Social Security (not sure if the totalization accord with Mexico has been passed as of yet which would require only 18 months of working in the US--legally or illegally).

And the bill is in trouble, I doubt it will pass the House and any bill is dead for 2008. But expect them to try again in 2009.

The Status Quo
Why the need for immigration reform at all? The Founding Fathers built concept of the Status Quo into our form of government, this is a brilliant check upon government devised by those who experienced the clever manipulations of the Law by special interest groups pushing their agenda at the expense of the whole. Do we not complain bitterly about unelected, unaccountable judges legislating from the bench over riding the people’s right of self governance? Any reading of the Declaration of Independence brings one main issue clearly into focus, that of abusive government controlled by the few at the expense of the many. Remember, those who wrote the Declaration also wrote the Constitution. One should study the Federalist and Anti-Federalist papers if they haven’t done so. The point of the Status Quo is to force an idea to undergo thorough scrutiny in order to achieve consensus. The Status Quo acts as a brake upon politically correct fads of the moment.

Our system is not perfect or fool proof, one would need to either deport all the less than perfect people and fools or take away their right of dissent, but then to a tyrant such logic makes perfect sense.

Ask Kennedy and others what more laws do we need which will only be selectively enforced as illustrated by illegal immigration that this so called Reform will address? The Status Quo and the Rule of Law mean nothing when the Law is not enforced. Don't the same people who advocate this amnesty bill also view the Constitution as a living document?


Lets Take it to the Streets.
That's enough of this bologna, our hired help attempting to pass legislation, the majority of Americans oppose. Legislation that denies punishment of illegal aliens, as well as those who house,and employ them. These are exactly,the population of America,the left majority is giving a pass. Amnesty on crimes commited against American. Those who immigrated here legally,or are attempting legal immigration,are getting the shaft. Past, present,and future immigrants are sidelined,has if their time, money,and responsibility to this nation was for naught. We are an immigrant nation protected by laws allowing legal immigration, and our responsibility to those laws. We are not a nation of illegal immigrants,protected by laws justifying illegal entry.As members of this Republic, we are at war with those who defile this Republic. We are responsible for our community,state,and nation.If we see a problem it is up to us to fix it.There's a big problem with our representation, bound by Constitutional law, to carry out the peoples will. Those who vote for this amnesty bill are not carrying out the peoples will. They are protecting the criminals that created the situation.

Of course the Dems want criminals
to come into the country and be legalized, or did you all forget that they also want them to be able to vote?

Philiosoph: Why not?
They already have dead people voting for them? Why not criminals, too?


philosophocon
Gallup shows that both Democrats and Republicans oppose the bill by roughly the same 2:1 ratio. Independents oppose the bill by even a greater margin.

What we have here are elitist politicians of both stripes selling out the country.

Rules
Have the Senate rules changed? I understand that
any Senator can put a hold on any legislation which stops it dead til he/she decides to let it go. Has that changed? If it hasn't there been a hold on this monster?

Whoops
Brain went into park..I meant If the rules haven't been changed, then why hasn't there been a hold put on this monster.

HUNTER FOR AMERICA

Republican voters still get to decide who their nominee will be. Money only buys elections when people act like sheep. If 80% of Republicans are indeed seeking a conservative, we can nominate one. We can nominate Duncan Hunter. The money players won't like it and are trying to convince us only Rudy, Romney, or McCain can win. Hogwash. They want an open borders candidate. Give Americans a chance to vote for a candidate who WILL secure the border and watch turnout soar. Americans want their government to fulfill it's most basic responsibility.

The primary responsibility of the U.S. government is to protect the territorial integrity and people of this country. They have completely abdicated this responsibility. Both parties have been complicit in this. We are being told it is not possible to control our borders, enforce our laws, and thereby control our destiny as a nation. Hogwash. We are being sold out by corporations intent on importing workers for jobs that can't be exported with the taxpayers paying the true costs, financial and human. If we act like sheep and don't stop the inundation across our borders, we will lose our country without a bleat.

http://www.gohunter08.com

Border in Trouble
As I speak, there are protests being staged on the Mexican side of the border. The National Guard and Border Patrol are preparing for what could be the biggest surge in illegal aliens since 1986. Hey, that year sounds familiar. Oh yeah, that was the same year that Congress passed a similar bill. The Democrats and (people who until recently were) Republicans have no way to enforce this bill, just like the last one. Our border with Mexico is practically non-existant. If this bill is passed into law, it will destroy what is left of our Southern border. We should have taken Mexico when we had the chance.

you poor schleps
My boys in Gubment are Tom Tancredo and Wayne Allard, both of whom oppose this Amnesty(comprehensive)Immigration nonreform. I don't need to even call and yell at them. They know where they(and I) stand. But you folks have a huge problem...your reps are ready to sell you out at the drop of a hat(or a dollar). I wish you luck!
By the way IrishEI, how dare you denigrate the image of the "Hero of Chappaquiddick", Teddy Kennedy, (by the way, did you know she was pregnant?). He gives all Saucebuckets hope, don't you know?
Can we please have another Dead Kennedy?

L.D. where are you? Did you get depressed when people didn't get your parody/sarcasm. I rather enjoy it.

Kennedy LaRaza Poster Boy
I wonder when all those GOP senators who voted against the Coburn amendment joined the Ted Kennedy wing of the Republican party? These RINOS, Bush, and Kennedy will insure that no mexican felon is left behind. When I see Ted Kennedy I realize that evil is strong, bold, and does not hide. It hunts in the halls of congress in plain site. It is Kennedy and he has corrupted the entire political system. He has done more harm to America than the people who destroyed the Twin Towers. He is truly vile.

Chowda Melon
Your other Senator Salazar has been a proponent of this sell out.

Round 1
Kennedy and McCain will come back with another version. They will not give up.

Town Hall: Please fix the software. Most of the time it will not let you post even if your message is only 120 characters long. It has been this way for days.

Thanks

First Victory
Though we must remain vigalent and keep an eye on Washington DC we have won a victory. The immigration bill has been withdrawn. We the people have forced it down. It may return but it is unlikely, and the House said they really don't care for this bill the way the Senate and the President do. For now, we have won!

Here is a list of traitorous RINOs that must be run out of the party, they voted to keep this bill alive: McCain, Martinez, Lugar, Hegal, Voinovich, Specter, and Graham.

I also don't trust Murkowski, Kyl, Brownback, Collins, Lott, Domenici, Warner, Bennett, or Hutchinson because of past voting on this bill but they did vote to kill it so make of that what you wish.

Now with Fred Thompson on the rise its on to put a real conservative in the white house, Thompson-Hunter 2008!

Why you guys in South Boston
keep voting for Ted is a mystery to most of the Nation. This man is so destructive .Sure you get pork-tons of it. But at what cost to the rest of us?

Political Parties
If anyone is still on the RNC addresses lists, receiving email/snail mail, demand today that you be removed. If you get donation solicitations from McCain, mark it "return to sender/refused" and drop it back in the Post.
If your Senator happens to be actively opposing the latest Senate immigration abomination, it is time you started requesting they formally leave the Republican, or Democrat, Party and file as Independents, like Sanders and Lieberman, but caucus with neither of the major poltical parties.
If you reside in a state with Constitutional recall rights provisions and have a US Senator conspiring to destroy this nation via "comprehensive immigration reform", start the recall petition TODAY.

Sen Byron Dorgan
If you missed Sen Dorgan's final speech last evening on C-Span, you missed everything. This guy had the courage to call out the LIES and the LIARS of this IMMIGRATION GIVEAWAY, and he came very close to using the actual words lie and liar. It was a great moment in the debate. Dorgan told it like it really is, including all the self-serving business profit motives behind this and the doantions of those businesses to the traitorous authors of this legislation. He catalogued the hollow promises of "border enforcement" once again being offered as sugar coating. He declared the party not mentioned in this legislation, nor considered in debate, was the US citizen worker. He told the demagogues to lay off the sad personal interest stories of illegals because there were plenty of those about US citizens, so let's give the attention to the US citizens!
Dorgan is a Democrat, but by God, I couldn't have agreed more with anyone in the US Senate chamber who spoke yesterday, and Sen "law and order" Cornyn is my Senator, whom I repsect.

Thanks, BG
I didn't think I was being THAT wordy, but I was not able to post. Then I got paranoid that maybe my anti-amnesty posts were sounding too racist or something!

Bill Withdrawn to the Shadows.
The shadows produced,by the cloud of smoke rising,from the lefts burnt offering. The smoldering fire,at their alter, which could not be fulling fueled. Instead,they return to their sanctuary to sanctimoniously work out a compromise. Behind the cloud,seeking to work out a compromise,that will maintain,and increase,burnt offerings,while maintaining the unburnt offerings.Our political representation, that gained security,and power,according to our Republics principles,found those same principles scorched their butts. United,"we,the people" stood together holding our hired help accountable. We would not bow to their alter built in the form of a golden calf.Neither would we offer donations to fuel their fire. Those of us who promote,and display,our founding principles are the directors of this Republic. On guard, to insure, its total needs are protected,its total capabilities allowed to progress. Not stifled,suffocated,by speculative legislation inacted to secure the needs of those who break the law.

We need to keep the heat on high,as I'm sure,behind closed doors,the left intends an end run. An end run that further depleats this nations protections,and capabilities.Just think about the capabilities,that were deprived by employers,and homeowners,who profit from resources that the undocumented offer.The money they earn from,or pay to,these tax evaders,is easily hidden.The American citizens in every community,state,our nation as a whole,is cheated by these criminals.IT'S COME TO A HEAD! We can't stop now,lets keep the pressure up.The left,in their self-absorbed ignorance,fanned the flames,now lets completely burn them.

Way to go
You guys and gals did a fantastic job raising holy cain about this mess and the ones supporting it. Thank goodness the country still has some among the populace who actually care more for the US than some dipshoot political party.

Congratulations, also, to Tancredo, Cornyn, O'connell, Dorgan, and all the other elected employees of this country who stuck it out.

I have the solution
Let us face it, the political elites are in the stalemate; and it looks like that no one has a silver bullet. I do.

It is called the Freedom of Migration Act.

Read about it at http://www.henrykkowalczyk.com/immigration.htm .

See it at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6i8xbHNCxoU .

Please check my “presidential” video, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeuB-LEVmdk , as well as my recent video about love and money, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzHa_Hbf27s

The Truth About The Immigration Bill
The Immigration Bill was not going to change or mitigate the circumstances of anyone!Therefore, those who consider it's disappearance a "VICTORY" might study the game of politics a little "CLOSER"!Not one "IMMIGRANT" will miss work today,or miss a "CLINIC" appointment,or miss school!THANK GOD!The 12 million or so people here,will continue to be here regardless!Business people want them here,"CARING PEOPLE" want them here,and they want to be here.In essences, those who oppose them being here are going to be played like a "BANJO",made to dance and shake their heads.As the celebration of the uninformed takes hold,please don't dance and shake too "HARD",for nothing has or will "CHANGE"!Congress and the PRESIDENT will continue to search for away to get an Immigration Bill passed and in the interim it will be business as usual!The "PEOPLE" are here, they deserve to be here and they are not "MOVING"!THAT IS THE "TRUTH"!

When Conservatives Unite

.....The anti-American Sovereignity/Amnesty Bill has been temporally defeated in the Senate thanks to the Conservatives who rose up and deluged Congress with voices of protest ...

.....I say temporarily because the DEM/RINOs will bring it back dressed up in a new red dress and a different shade of lipstick ...so the battle has been won but the war goes on ...

.....there are two points upon which Conservatives must not compromise ...
...1. the border must be secured before guest worker visas are issued ...
...2. existing immigration laws must be enforced before any new laws are enacted ...

.....amazingly a group of Republicans voted against Sen Coburn's Amendment 1311 that would have enforced existing immigration laws ...including my own Senator Kay Hutchinson ...I will do my best to see that she is defeated in the Primaries if she runs again .....COLOSSUS

A surprise
baseballdoc, that truly is a surprise. I've always admired KBH, but this is beyond the pale.

By the way, what's up with the 'stros?

Hey Killer. "They deserve to be here"? How come?

Bush Birthday Card

.....I recently got a letter from Laura Bush (wink wink) ...thanking me for past support and requesting a donation to celebrate GW's 61st birthday ...

.....over the space for signature I pasted an American Flag ...and my message was ...VIVA AMERICAN SOVEREIGNTY! ...Then I mailed it back so that the RNC will have to pay the postage ...

.....For the last several years I have written letters to the RNC warning them that their support for RINOs in the Primaries was going to cause the Conservatives in the Party to revolt ...maybe they are beginning to get the message ...for the past year whenever I get a solicitation from the RNC ...I cut it into confetti and mail it back ...

.....When the Party rejects the RINOs and supports true Conservative candidates I will return ...In the meantime I will support true Conservative who happen to be Republicans ...I recently sent a donation to Senator Coburn of Oklahoma .....COLOSSUS

speaking truth to power, America!
Agree with good points by baseballdoc, Chopper John, Expound Truth, Charlie, jamie, BG and Reenie. We have won a second battle-- BUT BEWARE -- the other side can outgun and outrun us with $ and organization.

Byron Dorgan IS indeed a true patriot. He is actually a liberal 'Crat, but in the traditional, good sense of the term-- he actually stands up for the working person rather than speak about something in the manner of a demagogue for power. About his excellent book "Take This Job and Ship It":

“Senator Byron Dorgan is one of the few elected officials of either party who has consistently and unwaveringly defended the interests of American working men and women and their families. His commitment to our country and the truth is inspiring. His book is a trenchant and timely examination of America’s so-called free trade policies and the exorbitant cost to our middle class and our nation.” --Lou Dobbs

There were a couple of other 'Crat patriots who were newly elected (a fact missed by those in the MM when analyzing the 2006 results vis-a-vis immigration attitudes)-- Senators Webb and McCaskill-- who helped drive the stake in the black heart of this egregious attempt at treachery toward Middle America by Teddy Homicide, Juan McQuisling, Presidente Jorge, Spectercide, Linseed Grahamos, Martinez, Salazar, and Menendez. [Has anyone noticed that it is not seen as "racist/ethnocentric" for latino Senators to work tirelessly for ILLEGAL alien lawbreakers, BUT it is allegedly "xenophobic, selfish and uncaring" if Middle America challenges them as a practical matter and has the temerity to suggest that we simply enforce the rule of law and existing laws?!]

It certainly ain't over, but it's a DEFINITE victory. It COULD be a watershed point. No, we have not gotten 20 million ILLEGALS to return home, nor have we restored the will to build that wall-- Presidente Jorge will still plague us for some time in welcoming his friends for miscreant employers and his open borders, bilingual, NAU MexiAmeriCanada agenda. He recently PROMISED Mexicans while down in Mexico that he would work for THEM on immigration "reform" in America! Holy Mary, Mother of God! That is nothing short of TREASON, folks!

It WAS Middle America's righteous indignation which derailed this travesty express for now.
Notwithstanding the imperious, blasphemous, disingenuous, ad hominem drivel about "racism" and "fearmongering," from Jorge and others like Linseed Grahamos, Americans who had some understanding of this bill opposed it over 2:1 according to Rasmussen (50% to 23%). Middle America rightfully did not trust the govt. promise of enforcement first (see shell game of 1986 Simpson-Mazolli bill perpetrated on Reagan and America), and RIGHTLY saw it as granting Scamnesty to perhaps 20 million. That would have irretrievably morphed America into a declining welfare state as we sloched toward third world Gomorrah.

At the end of the day, it WAS grassroots America which again derailed this sell-out attempt of the American Way. We can rejoice a bit that the vox populi of the Republic worked again-- it too seldom does anymore. The nefarious powers that be had tried to do this Cramnesty behind closed doors-- little known is that they skipped the normal committee hearing process because they did not want open discussion and expert testimony from border guards, INS, etc., to see the light of day-- lest the electorate might be TRULY informed, alarmed and outraged. [Afterall, Shrillary, Teddy, Hussein Obama, et al know what is REALLY best for you!]

America would be a TERRIBLE THING TO LOSE, folks. The sad truth is that there are elitists who fathom that national borders should not matter anymore, because they hinder their ability to bleed cheap labor. They really do not care about the decimation of public schools, hospitals and social services, and the inexorable balkanization and cultural enervation, because THEY will remain remote from "those people" anyway. The closest elites get to ILLEGAL aliens is when the latter bow deferentially from the flower beds as the elites pass by to their Mercedes SUV's.

The most pernicious and insidious of the elites are the remote so-called PC, anti-America, multiculturalists (Shrillary, e.g.) who want to be the demagogues to the madding crowd of great unwashed, ignorant, indigent that they hope to see keep coming. That would assure their Big Brother entitlement govt. hegemony uber alles.

Here below are a few links where you can learn more, get engaged, AND find easy, free ways to contact Congress. The first is EXCELLENT-- bookmark it; the 2nd shows how Americans REALLY feel about immigration when asked detailed, unloaded questions; the third shows highlights from Heritage about the REAL costs that this Cramnesty attempt would have meant to YOU. Wanna get really lathered up? See the 4th about the reconquista advocates (some backed by socialists and communists, but ethnocentric racists regardless) manipulating YOUR govt.

May God bless America and save her from myopia and the threachery of the powerful "elites."

http://www.numbersusa.com/index
http://www.cis.org/articles/2006/back906.html
http://www.heritage.org/Research/Immigration/wm1076.cfm
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/15/AR2007051502022.html
http://www.cis.org/index.cgi
http://www.grassfire.org/
http://www.firesociety.com/article/12134/
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=20530
http://www.amren.com/Reports/Hispanics/HispanicsReport.htm
http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=54132
http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/back704.html
http://capwiz.com/usbc/index_frame.dbq?url=http://capwiz.com/usbc/home/
http://www.grasstopsusa.com/
http://www.americanpatrol.com/
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=43275
http://www.opinionjournal.com/columnists/pnoonan/?id=110010148&mod=RSS_Opinion_Journal&ojrss=frontpage
http://www.theamericanresistance.com/articles/art2004jan04.html

baseballdoc
Glad to see someone uses those tactics!

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KKKKENNEDY --- WHAT ????????????????????
Sen. Ted KenNNnedy (D.-Mass.) wants criminals and potential terrorists to get amnesty???
Sick killer of women.....
Just put a granade in our throats - it will kill us faster...
PEOPLE OF MAASA CHUTSPA - GIVE ME ONE REASON TO VOTE FOR SCUM....

w A I T I N G ...


STILL wAITING..........




Bush wants Reid to resurrect bill
President believes it's premature to declare immigration plan dead

President Bush wants Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid to resurrect the controversial immigration-reform bill that was pulled last night after a motion to cut off debate failed, White House adviser Dan Bartlett said today.

Asked about the bill as Bush prepared to leave the G8 Summit in Heiligendamm, Germany, Bartlett told CNN the president believes declaring it dead is premature, and he wants Reid to consider putting it back on the table.

For the rest of the article:
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=56081

Drew
Hunter Thompson for President! has a nice ring to it. oops, he's dead. More and more, I have come to believe, sadly, the vast majority of our professional, elected "representatives" are either brain dead or closet fascists.

Townhall.com: I, too have had trouble posting my comments recently.

Bush wants Reid to resurrect bill
"Bush wants Reid to resurrect bill
President believes it's premature to declare immigration plan dead"

ANY politician who tries to resurrect this abortion of a bill should be recalled, at least. That goes for all of CONgress as well as the president.

I'm fed up with the cons passing garbage that the American people revile. The uncouth numbskulls need a wake up call about who works for whom. They are the employees here, the American people are their bosses.

As things stand, I wouldn't trust a politician half as far as I could throw one, DhimmicRAT or Republican.

Mexicans are laughing
Illegal aliens are laughing!

Mr. Garcia is an illegal Mexican who has been here for more than forty years. He crossed the border to work, make money and go back to Mexico. However, his wife followed him and his three children along. Mr. Garcia stayed in California since then, and had three more children. It has been forty years and Mr. Garcia does not speak English. He waves the Mexican flag, drink his two dozen of Budweiser everyday, curse America for being racist, and play his “Rancheras” (Mexican popular music) aloud since the morning until night with not stopping. Mr. Garcia’s pride is not being in America, but been born in Mexico. He even boast that he all this time he has been in California, he never had driver license, and does not need to learn English to make money. Mr. Garcia thinks that republicans and democrats are both the same “@&*%#”

Actually, Mr. Garcia is a real man. but he is not alone in his sentiments about America. More than ten million of illegal immigrants share in certain degree the feelings of Mr. Garcia. As an immigrant myself, I can say that illegal aliens from Mexico are laughing at Democrats and Republicans for spending time in something that not even their own governments, Mexico and other Latin countries, care a bit: immigration.

Bush and his advocates of open borders are really upset. Not because America is being inundated by law-breakers, but because American is not inundated enough by Mexicans and others illegally.

Democrats as much as republicans believe that if this amnesty bills passes and millions and millions of law-breakers become legalized will vote for them. What a nonsense! Illegal Aliens will not vote for democrats or republicans just because they pass laws giving them amnesty.

They will continue transforming California and other states in little Tijuanas where mariachis and ranchera music will fill the air. Welcome to the United States of illegal Mexicans thanks to Bush and Co.




4Freedom
I read you loud and clear.

And yes, you got it right.

They, the illegals, for the most part don't care what we do because nothing changes.

Except America. That gets changed forever if we don't stop this craziness. Thanks for your input.

Lexington and Concord.

No recall , check the Constitution
Congressmen/women, Senators, and the President can not be recalled, they must be impeached.

It takes a 2/3 vote in the House of Representatives impeach one of them.

Impeachment must be tried by the Senate, and it takes a 2/3 vote there to convict.

That means there is a very slim chance of an impeachment right now, and an even slimmer chance of getting a conviction.

The only practical way of getting them out is to vote them out. They can do a lot of damage between now and the next election.

The only way to protect ourselves from the "open borders" crowd is to elect a large enough number of clear-headed people to keep them in check.

Another way is to find a way to get a "term limits" Constitutional Amendment passed and ratified.

No Recall, my butt
If they drown in their swimming pool, they are recalled.
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