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Monday, March 23, 2009
Allen Hunt :: Townhall.com Columnist
Dumbing Down Marriage
by Allen Hunt
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Being able to buy a $500,000 house on fabricated and blown up income figures with no money down....... a perversion of the American dream of homeownership.

Getting paid $15MM for employment that helped cause failure at major financial institutions.....a perversion of the American work ethic.

Assaulting the institution of marriage so as to eviscerate it of any meaning whatsoever..... a perversion of the American social fabric.

And assaulting the very idea of marriage is exactly what is occurring at every turn. Consider just four examples from the past week:

1) New data shows more than 40% of American babies were born out of wedlock. This staggering figure continues a twenty-year growth trend in children starting life from the outset in incomplete families.

2) Most, if not all, dictionaries, now provide multiple definitions for “marriage.” Their stated goal is to reflect cultural usage rather than to create it.

3) The same-sex marriage battle continues in California in spite of the passage of Proposition 8 in November. Gay activists have already begun mobilizing for another referendum if the state's Supreme Court allows Proposition 8 to stand.

4) Two Pepperdine University law professors published an article in Time this week, arguing that the government should get out of the marriage business altogether. Continued...

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typo
I meant to write that marriage isn't ONLY based on or restricted to the ability or intention TO HAVE CHILDREN.


Clicked the button before I was able to edit the post.
It's the utmost of snobbery to say that it's only those who have children whose marriages are worthy of the most moral and social support and are the most valid.

If we are to agree that adults who care for another through marriage or parenting are agreeing to what represents unselfishness, personal sacrifice and fidelity and common good through doing so, then obviously gay people agree to it too and do so as well as anyone.
Only forked logic would disagree, and pretty much on a graceless and unfounded basis.

And state laws don't disqualify a person based on their morality, but on the quality of consciousness that marriage is SUPPOSED to bring. This is about what marriage itself does. Not those who marry.
How to qualify the morality of the individuals who actually marry is impossible for the state to legislate on behalf of the majority anyway.

Seriously, it's a useless preoccupation to argue on the value and morals of gay couples, as those who are the most reprobate among heterosexuals can marry once and again for any reason the state doesn't restrict on those grounds.

the forked morals of TH
on this thread are barely worth responding to, they can be so stupid.

Fact one: marriage IS a legal and social commitment between ADULTS for ADULTS. Children are OPTIONAL. There are no legal restrictions on marriage based on the ability or intention to marry. How many times

Fact 2: those adults who themselves don't care about marriage, don't and you can't make them. That has nothing to do with the gay couples who OBVIOUSLY care about it and want to marry. Especially those gay couples with children.

Fact 3: Evidently, gay couples and gay individuals at large have no issue with the same standards and rules for marriage that apply to opposite sex couples. That they can and do WITHOUT the benefit or legal responsibilities speaks of a more rational basis to include gay couples rather than banning them. Making the issue about children is a straw man, and since no one here can say they know the children of gay parents from the children of hetero parents shows also just how seamlessly effective gay parents are in the care of their children.

That gay couples and their children share the more important traits of a civilized and moral society and are eager to share the love they have for each other and their children, doesn't make them wrong, but the discrimination to marry against them very wrong.

And to Rudolf's point: at least gay couples can plan VERY carefully to have and for children. And are vetted for adoption the same as a hetero couple. And gay adoptive parents are given children who have special needs or are difficult to adopt, and STILL they succeed.

But the fact remains: children are optional for married couples, not a requirement to be as equally so in the eyes of the state as those with children.
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