Wednesday, April 23, 2008
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Is Hillary Uniting Us?
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Posted by:
Matt Lewis at
7:56 AM
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While the media bemoans the divisiveness of the protracted Democratic Primary, there may be overlooking some benefits.
There is no doubt this contest is hurtful to the Democratic Party. But it might actually be helpful toward bringing Americans together. I know that sounds odd. But I think that this is actually helping bring Republicans and Democrats together. Let me give you three examples ...
1. I personally find myself respecting Hillary more than ever in the past. My guess is, other conservatives feel the same way. Sure, she may be a socialist, but she is at least tough and doesn't give up. It's hard to admit, but I find myself having this grudging respect for her. Is this the Hillary that liberals have always admired -- but I was blind to because of philosophical differences?
2. Just as I may have a new-found respect for Hillary, Obama supporters are finally seeing the real Bill Clinton. Yes -- he's slimy. That's what we've been telling you guys for decades now!
3. A close friend of mine (who also happens to be a liberal) is now a frequent TH.com reader. Why? She's supporting Hillary, and for the first time ever, she and I see eye to eye on things like the liberal media. She has always viewed herself as a liberal, but now she is seeing first-hand just how quixotic and dangerous the Obama supporters are.
Who knows how long it will last, but I think these are positive developments ...
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RIGHT ON to the first part of your post but I would respectfully disagree about a Clinton-Obama ticket. Why?? Because I think Obama has so much baggage now that he would be a detriment to Clinton. Two months ago it seemed like a good idea but not now. |
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yes, I'm not saying because I think she is tough that you have to agree with her about policy. This is a conservative blog for gosh sakes!
Yes, I knew Matt before Matt was cool! ;) |
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In their quest to maintain a stage for the Democratic Presidential candidates to “bloody” the other, Conservatives have given the Media a greater call to explore the nuances of the Democratic campaign, thus, broader coverage. Democrats can realistically benefit from Operation Chaos by continuing a soft-ball approach to differentiation during the next several weeks, conduct themselves civilly, and shape the dialog, as Sen McCain takes a back seat….. Operation Chaos II
Operation Chaos II may be the Saving Grace that both Sen Clinton & Obama need to further articulate their positions on issues that have been tracked as being the most important to all Americans. Consider it Political Crisis Management, Operation Chaos II may very well be the best approach to campaigning for Democrats nationally.
What I Learned This Week
http://whatilearnedthisweek.wordpress.com/operation-chao-ii
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I just heard you on MSNBC call President Clinton a slimeball. Now, I think for you to go on national television and call a President a slimeball is over the top. You should apologize, you have greatly offended me. I never heard of townhall before this, they need to fire you over this. |
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I'm guessing that MelissaS is your liberal friend who now reads Townhall on a regular basis.
:)
Truth is, we can 'respect' Hillary's 'toughness,' but let's compartmentalize her 'toughness' from her philosophical beliefs, as they are exclusive from one another.
Hillary may be a tough fighter, but she fights for the wrong side of important issues. |
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Just how long it will last, until the day after she either wins the nomination or loses it to Obama.
If she loses, she fades back to Senate obscurity and will get reamed and mocked periodically for supporting some bizarro liberal policies.
If she wins, all the new Obama hyped-up scandals get retired and Townhall will set the way back machine to the 90's and pull out all the old anti-Clinton ammunition, as well as the new rounds Hillary herself handed them with her praise of John McCain.
Political alliances only last as long as a common enemy. |
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Clinton-Obama in the fall. Clinton has the best chance of beating McCain and Obama must be on the ticket to pacify the far left and the black wings of the Dems.
The Dem leadership will eventually come to realize this and before the convention it will all be worked out. They must do this to prevent the splintering of the Dem coalitions.
Obama will go along because he will realize the wisdom of it. Also, as VP he is set up in the Dem party as a leader for the long haul, as well as being part of history.
Clinton-Obama will present McCain the greatest challenge and consequently who McCain picks for VP will be more important than usual. It will be vital that McCain pick a VP that will energize the right wing of the GOP with whom McCain is weak. McCain himself appeals strongly to the left wing of the GOP and the Reagan Democrats. It should be a real donnybrook this fall. The November results will be 50-49, but I cannot predict who will have the 50.
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Until the last 5 months the MSM hasn't been as liberal as accused in the past, but they have certainly made a sharp turn left recently. There is no doubt that MSNBC and CNN are in the tank for Obama. Hillary can do no right as far as they are concerned. It is sickening to watch their bias. Didn't you hear Chris Matthews say that he got chills up his legs when he was listening to Obama's race speech? I mean, c'mon. Even if that is the truth, as a media person, that shows bias and it should not be said on the air.
I urge you to watch Hardball and Olbermann for few nights. Then watch Morning Joe and try watching Fox News (as hard as it may be)and you will hear a more balance view of Obama and Clinton. Also, check out mediamatters.org. They keep track of bias in the media. They have gone after Matthews quite a bit lately. |
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that is the Hillary that we have always known and loved. When Bill and Chelsea say she will make a better president, they aren't lying. She is tough as nails and she appeals to moderate liberals like me. I want someone who is a fighter and she's got what it takes. The Dems loved Bill like Elvis but I always thought Hillary was the better half of that couple. |
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It could be even better than those reasons, though. Take BO's comments in San Fransisco on guns and religion. McCain said afterwards, "These are the people that produced a generation that made the world safe for democracy. These are the peole that have fundamental cultural, spiritual and other values than in my view have very little to do with their economic condition." That's an OK response, but he missed the point too. "THESE PEOPLE" are Americans. THESE PEOPLE are not a separate demographic. They are US and we are THEM. BO's comments provided a great opportunity for McCain to speak of the values that unite America. The authentically conservative (not Republican--conservative) values that a majority of Americans hold. He could have used Obama's remarks to 1) reiterate his own believe that conservative values unite us across party lines; 2) Obama doesn't get it; and 3) by appealing to authentically conservative values he IS different from the current republican administration and as such represents change. |
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Two out of three reasons are negative. Making Bill look bad and making the MSM look bad.
And for the record, liberals don't "own" the MSM. They haven't for quite awhile. Most liberals think the MSM is right wing.
Perhaps you should take the lead from your friend and visit Huffington Post just to read about how much liberals hate the MSM. |
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Hillary is not uniting me! I still hate her and her paper husband and wish they would just go away and never come back!
I would not vote her even if someone was holding a knife to my d--k! |
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Is he skittish around her because he knows that she detests him and he’s used to charming everyone? Or does he feel guilty that he cut in line ahead of her? As the husband of Michelle, does he know better than to defy the will of a strong woman? Or is he simply scared of Hillary because she’s scary?
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/23/opinion/23dowd.html?_r=1& hp&oref=slogin
Isn't life grand sometimes? |
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We can make this happen every cycle if we band together and vote for Nader this fall. Letting the Dems continue to blame republicans for the liberals among us like Bush and McCain. What we can prove is that liberals in our party are not the lessor of evil they are just that. If we settle for a McCain/Romney ticket both extreme liberals will only prolong the crisis within the GOP. I don't know why any conservative would have reason to take wither man at his word. Both have demostrated their liberal tendencies and will have dire consequences to party structure if elected. Even if Obama or Clinton get in the result of 4 years will be tough for us but tougher for their party. If Nader gets matching funds the kook left might split off from the Democrat party. |
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Joe Scarborough on Morning Joe had some interesting graphics and conclusions.
It's clear that Obama has a hold over, say, 25% of all voters. But that's it. And the media isn't reporting his opposition in Hillary's camp and in Republican territory. PA exit polls say that if Obama is the Democratic nominee, 25% of Hillary voters will vote for McCain and 18% of them won't vote. In contrast, if Hillary is the nominee, only about 30% of Obama's supporters will vote for McCain or not vote.
To me, the elephant in the room that neither the Democrats nor the media will face is why aren't earlier primary voters polled about how they feel about Obama NOW that Wright, Ayers, Bittergate, and so forth are in the public domain?
Isn't anyone curious to know whether all those voters who supported Obama in primaries held before March 15 would still vote that way? I think Obama would be headed back to the Senate to finish out his term and then back to academia to contemplate his navel. |
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