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Wednesday, November 08, 2006
Rumsfeld Stepping Down (Update: Robert Gates is Replacement)
Posted by: Mary Katharine Ham at 12:49 PM

Update: Allah has video of Bush, and notes that we may very well be saying bye-bye to Bolton.

AP is reporting, just over on Fox.

Update: Oops. Oops.

Update: Robert Gates, CIA vet, will be nomination from Bush today.

Update: Daaang, Gates' wikipedia is already updated to reflect the nomination.

Update: Classy opening, congratulating Dems, cracking jokes about Pelosi's drapes. He says the American people asked for bipartisanship--for Congress to

Recognizes vote reflects displeasure with Iraq. He also thinks Americans and politicians understand we can't accept defeat.

Meeting with folks, briefing, asking for their views on Iraq. Briefing new members of Congress. Looks forward to hearing the Bipartisan Iraq Study Commission.

Served six presidents from both parties, became CIA director. "He is serving as a member of the Baker-Hamilton Commission."

"To our enemies: Do not be joyful. Do not confuse the workings of our democracies with a lack of will."

"To our brave men and women in uniform: Don't be doubtful. America will always support you."

He wants to change the tone. "The issues before us are bigger than that and we are bigger than that."

Q: Will you bring troops home?

"I want our troops to come home too, but I want them to come home with a victory...I'm committed to victory. I'm committed to victory so we can bring our troops home."

"Bob Gates will bring a fresh perspective. He'll also bring great managerial experience...He understands that defeat is not an option in Iraq. He believes it's important that we have fresh perspective, as does Secretary Rumsfeld."

Q: How much does it have to do with the elections?

"I didn't want to break major news about the progress of this war in the final days of the election...I hadn't had the chance to sit down with Bob Gates and I hadn't had my last conversation with Secretary Rumsfeld yet."

"Win or lose, Bob Gates was gonna become the nominee."

Q: You said, "Terrorists win, America loses." What has changed?

"What has changed today is that the elections are over and the Democrats won."

Q: It's "full speed ahead" on Iraq, Cheney said. Are you listening to the people or are you listening to Cheney?

"No question Iraq was on people's minds...As you have just learned, I have made a change in Secretary of Defense."

"We will work with Members of Congress. We will work with the Baker-Hamilton Commission." 

"Stay the course means get the job done, but it doesn't mean getting stuck on a strategy that isn't working."

"If we were to leave before the job is done, the country becomes more at risk."

Q: Pelosi's agenda has been clear. Which one can you support?

"I knew you'd try to get me to negotiate with myself...I do believe we have an opportunity to find some common ground to move forward on."

Q: Does Cheney have your confidence?

"Yes he does."

Q: Pelosi calling him incompetent...How will you work with someone with so little respect for your leadership?

"I understand when campaigns end and governing begins...If you hold grudges in this line of work, you're never gonna get anything done, and I intend to get things done."

"The individual races were close, but the cumulative effect was not close. It was a thumpin'."

"There's a responsibility that comes with victory."

"This isn't my first rodeo."

Q: Being interpreted as a repudiation of your leadership style. Should we expect a whole new style from you?

"Winning this War on Terror is by far the most important (priority)."

"It's tough in a time of war when people see carnage on their TV screens...A lot of times off-years are decided by the economy. The good news of the economy was overwhelmed by the toughness of this fight."

Q: Are you worried you won't be able to work with Dems on war?

"It's very important that people understand the consequences of failure."

"Obviously, we got a lot of work to do with some Members of Congress."

"If the goal is success, we can work together...If the goal is get out now regardless, then we're gonna have trouble working together."

"The enemy's gonna thing, 'well, America's gonna leave.' No, that's not what it means."

Q: You're going to Vietnam in a week. Are people wrong to look at this as another Vietnam?

Cites Constitution, unity government, votes for unity government, volunteer army.

"They (troops) understand...that's why re-enlistment rates are high."

Q: If you had any do-overs, what would they be?

"You don't get do-overs! You don't get 'em."

"It's hard to win an election when you're trying to win a write-in, like we did in our state of Texas...The Foley seat. That's a hard race to win."

"When you dig into the races...I'm not sure Iraq had a lot to do with that election."

Clinton, Rendell, Casey all were strong candidates with good turnout.

Q: What can you do to convince Americans you'll avoid gridlock?

"People are skeptical. And the way you defeat skepticism is with action."

"Entitlements. That's gonna be a very interesting issue to deal with...If we do not have Republicans and Democrats together for entitlements, we won't get anything done."

Q: Social Security is important to Dems. Are you willing to give on privatization in the spirit of bipartisanship? 

Yeah, we'll sit down and talk.

"People are generally risk-adverse when it comes to Social Security. My problem with that is that the longer you put it off, the bigger the problem becomes."

Q: Comprehensive immigration reform? Got a shot?

"I do. I think we have a good chance. It's an important issue and we need to get something done."

"Catch-and-release has virtually been ended over the last couple of months."

"That's gotta be an integral part of a comprehensive plan (guest-worker plan)."

Update: Stop the ACLU has a reax round-up.

 



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Lyta writes: Wednesday, November, 08, 2006 9:47 PM
Saddam had a nuke program
You missed a news cycle. If Saddam didn't have an effective WMD program, there would not have been a reason for the IAEA to ask that Iraqi document translation project to take down their site.
buddaz writes: Wednesday, November, 08, 2006 7:23 PM
... and
i think the "iraq invaded the us" is a sarcastic comment meant to expose the lies told to go to war. we all know who attacked us, and i'm damn sure it wasnt iraq! sadaam was is as much of a threat as about 12 other dictators and they were a check on iran. now iran is emboldened by the us actions in iraq.
buddaz writes: Wednesday, November, 08, 2006 7:18 PM
red star gazer
ask a soldier? ok, how about 40 known as the fighting dems, aka band of brothers. all vets running as democrats for congress.

again, we must realize that failed pr attempts to show the good things about the iraq war have made the present administration look foolish trying to keep pushing this disaster of a war.

but i think if i asked a vet, they would say i am fighting for my friends in iraq.
USABeliever writes: Wednesday, November, 08, 2006 5:16 PM
Red Star Gazer...
It's amazing! Iraq invaded the US! So you believe they were a threat!

But...

In case you were meaning it the other way around, you need to re-examine your thinking. We went into Iraq to remove a threat to not only our national security, but a threat to global security. We aren't trying to run their government over there - what their government does is up to them. Therefore, your comment holds no truth.

Are you a high school student, maybe college? It's time to take the blinders off and see more than what you have been fed by your teachers and the media outlets. You may want to start by checking with those that served or are serving in Iraq and see what they think of the situation there.
USABeliever writes: Wednesday, November, 08, 2006 5:10 PM
Correction
Did wrote -> wrote
Brehon writes: Wednesday, November, 08, 2006 5:04 PM
W needs some fresh faces
Why is it that many of the poeple in W's cabinet are/were/will be people from his father's cabinet??!!?!?
Colin Powell, Condi Rice, Dick Cheney, Robert Gates, Donald Rumsfeld, all were in GHW Bush's cabinet. W really needs to cut the cord and get some fresh faces.
USABeliever writes: Wednesday, November, 08, 2006 5:01 PM
News Hound...
I just did wrote my congressmen through here on Townhall, and if that doesn't work, I'll send it the old-fashioned way.

If you or anyone else wants to see what I wrote, click on my name or go to:

http://usabeliever.townhall.com

Hope to hear from you that you have written as well!
eearmyh2o writes: Wednesday, November, 08, 2006 4:32 PM
1937
It is 1937 and we just elected Neville Chamberlain. Not only did we elect Chamberlain but now the President seems to have appointed a Secretary of Defense who has advocated to talking to Syria and Iran. I fear very strongly that we are going to hear the words "Peace in Our times" spoken very soon. I don't even mean that as hyperbole. A lot of people are so deficient in their knowledge of history that they might actually think such a phrase is a good idea. I wouldn’t be surprised if we heard that phrase by someone in politics or the media in the next few weeks. “Our new stance on Iraq (or foreign policy) will lead to peace in our times”. I am honestly afraid.
news hound writes: Wednesday, November, 08, 2006 3:51 PM
Rumsfeld resignation
Good idea, USABeliever. I think I'll do just that. My mood may be a little somber today, but my constitution remains strong.

And to Khokar:

Rumsfeld escaping accountability by resigning? Just the opposite IMO. It takes a lot of backbone to admit that you may no longer be the right coach to lead the team.
USABeliever writes: Wednesday, November, 08, 2006 3:42 PM
Khokar -
Read up on the facts again. The resignation was done DAYS before today, the announcement was just made today. If anything, this labels him as the scapegoat for accountability in Iraq...

Sorry, I just don't see how your comments can even be spun into making sense...
Khokar writes: Wednesday, November, 08, 2006 3:33 PM
A clever move

It shows cleverness of Rummy to leave; amid humdrum of Election and a day that marked a defeat for Conservative.

What a way…to vanish and escape the accountability?
USABeliever writes: Wednesday, November, 08, 2006 3:31 PM
Correction to last post
Revenge - resignation. (But I'm sure you got the point.)
USABeliever writes: Wednesday, November, 08, 2006 3:31 PM
Doubtful, but...
Look at this way, News Hound. I've been saying it all morning. It's time to confront those that have been elected as our representatives in Congress. Send them an e-mail, ask them definitively stand on the issues. Wait for a response. No response says something in itself, and the collection of these responses should be shared in a place such as this. Let it add up, and we can keep the responses in a safe place.

The Dems have already named one for sure on their hit list - Cheney. Be sure that the hunger will not be satisfied by Rumsfeld's revenge. God forbid if the do win the Senate, because I do see a very likely chance they will go against what they said and try to use the legal system to remove members of the administration, possibly including the president. It's not paranoia - to me it makes common sense. They will try and appease their base - and most of the liberals would like to see a row of heads on platters from the administration.
news hound writes: Wednesday, November, 08, 2006 3:22 PM
Rumsfeld resigns
USABeliever:

I share your respect for Donald Rumsfeld. I admire his courage and leadership during this difficult time and think he is a real patriot. He seems to have been (and indeed, your comments confirm as much) very engaged in the fight and issues critical to our military.

Now that he's been taken off the hit list for the Democrats, it will be interesting to see who and what they will pursue next. Since they won with an "I'm not republican, I hate Bush" strategy versus any articulated plans of their own, let's see what they stand for now. Will they be exposed? I mean, really, do they expect the people to buy into their bi-partisan, put America first rhetoric? Well, THIS American supports this President and this war and our military and I am not the only one... Will their agenda consider my perspectives? Hmmm... Pelosi, Rangel, Murtha... pardon me for being a skeptic.
USABeliever writes: Wednesday, November, 08, 2006 3:12 PM
Reply #2
The reason I think this may have caught or may catch some off-guard is because this is not something that had to be done. I know for a fact that the people in the office I work in, who are mainly liberals, were in fact caught off-guard by the announcement today.

Yes, they have been calling for his resignation - but did they expect it to actually happen the day after elections?
USABeliever writes: Wednesday, November, 08, 2006 3:09 PM
Um.. Red star gazer..
If you want to gloat, at least be polite about it. I can understand not everyone liked him or the job he did, but I think your emotions are more linked to even having Americans in Iraq than they are actually at Rumsfeld. Had it been a Democrat in exact same position and history - I doubt you would have written that post.
USABeliever writes: Wednesday, November, 08, 2006 2:25 PM
News Hound...
I couldn't agree with you more on this, the timing of the decision was better this way. I think this has the potential to catch the Democrats off-guard.

Rumsfeld has done a good job IMO, regardless what people have said. I remember when I was stationed at Kadena AB a few years ago, when he personally came and inspected the then F-15s that were currently in service there. These were the oldest fighters in active status, and he has worked hard to get Kadena the F-22s that they will receive in a few years (not to mention they are swapping out the older models for newer model F-15s)

I felt that as SECDEF, he really did the best he could. Am I biased on that, sure. The fact that he is willing to resign in order to put the nation first is the sign of a good man. Mr. Rumsfeld, my hat's off to you. And Mr. President, the fact that you were willing to put aside politics for this also shows true leadership and concern. We may not agree on everything, but this definitely puts a plus for you in my book.
news hound writes: Wednesday, November, 08, 2006 2:09 PM
And the world keeps spinning....
On President Bush:
I've heard him called everything in the book, including "liar," "boob," "Hitler," "dangerous," "incompetent," etc. but I tell you, President George W. Bush is a true LEADER. He could have announced that he was accepting Rumsfeld's resignation during the campaign and it may have served to bolster the GOP candidates in very anti-Iraq war races, but as the President stated, he did not want the men and women in the military to think that their Commander-in-Chief was making key military personnel decisions in the War on Terror merely due to politics. This man is dedicated to this country, this cause, and our troops.

On Donald Rumsfeld:
I respect and admire Donald Rumsfeld and believe that this resignation was his idea. Like President Bush, Donald Rumsfeld knows that the effort and the war is more important than any one man or any election cycle, so "fresh eyes" it is. Godspeed and best of luck to him. (P.S. If we thought the Democrats treated Rumsfeld horribly before they had control...)

On Clinton:
Bill Clinton may be laughing heartily today (as suggested by StromsDaughter), but in the end, Clinton's legacy (and the only thing that truly matters to him) looks less impressive each time Americans are reminded of the true qualities of leadership in President Bush. The difference between the two men is glaring: with Clinton it was always Clinton, Clinton, Clinton, party, Americans, Clinton... President Bush has, once again, put this country (including the morale and faith of the troops)before himself or the party thereby showing why Bush ALWAYS will get the last laugh.
USABeliever writes: Wednesday, November, 08, 2006 2:08 PM
Kind of makes you wonder...
Was Robert Gates in the "hit-by-the-bus" notebook that was mentioned a while ago that Card was carrying around? Lemme see if I can find an article...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/01/AR2006100101148.html

Maybe the notebook is still around..?
One Hit Wonder writes: Wednesday, November, 08, 2006 1:43 PM
Sling Blade
Could someone please ask Bush to quit grunting after every question????
USABeliever writes: Wednesday, November, 08, 2006 1:33 PM
Tasha's got a point...
..But the real point is that this actually was going down a few days before, if you base it on the comments from the President. I think it was both a wise and a bad move to do it after election day, and both for the same reason: the potential to sway voters.

What I hope to expect is that Rumsfeld will do something very unprecedented - maybe he will take the hit for the Republican party and the Bush administration. How big would that be if he said he takes the blame solely for the direction in Iraq? Furthermore, what if he were to say that he resigned because he wants the country to unite behind the cause, why we are there in the first place? Based on the few details that are out now, I have to think this will be a possibility.
Tasha writes: Wednesday, November, 08, 2006 1:20 PM
So It Begins
Getting rid of Rumsfeld before the democrats could build any momentum might turn out to be great strategery. Blasting Rumsfeld allowed them to play the blame game without defining the problem or coming up with any solutions.
StromsDaughter writes: Wednesday, November, 08, 2006 12:54 PM
Ouch
The people have spoken. Republicans got there spanked! Bill Clinton is probably laughing his head off.
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