Friday, April 25, 2008
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McCain On The Blogger Conferencee Call: Obama Must Repudiate Ayers And Apologize For Associating With An Unrepentant Terrorist
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Hugh Hewitt at
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Senator McCain began the conference call with a review of his recent speeches, high praise for Louisiana's Bobby Jindal, and a vigorous defense of tax cuts and sharp series of blasts at Obama's proposals to rasie the capital gains tax rate and the cap on wages subject to social security taxes.
I got the first question and noted the senator's Sunday rebuke of Senator Obama for his comparison of his friendship with Wlliam Ayers and his friendship with Oklahoma Senator Tom Colburn, mentioned the 2007 video/audio of Dohrn and Ayers, and asked what obligations Obama had to address the details of his association with Ayers/Dohrn, and what obligations the media had to push for that explanation.
McCain responded by again blasting Obama's comparison of Ayers and Coburn, and said an apology from Obama was necessary as Coburn actually works to save lives and Ayers had worked to take them. He repeatedly referred to Ayers as an unrepentant terrorist, and expressed surprise that there hasn’t been more discussion about the comparison, or about what an unrepentant terrorist which is what Ayers is. McCain said that Obama had to repudiate Ayers and apologize for ever having had anything to do with an unrepentant terroist. McCain noted that Ayers brags about his organization and is unrepentant about his past, so that Obama can try and persuade the American people or perhaps he can make a case that Mr. Ayers made some contribution, but it was a terrorist organization, and that the media ought to be discussing it.
Other highlights:
Michael Goldfarb and Jim Geraghty both pushed the senator on why he doesn't want the North Carolina ad to run, and McCain repeated his explanation that it just isn't the tone he wants to set. He reminded the bloggers that while he has influence over the RNC, he doesn't over the North Carolina Republican Party.
Jennifer Rubin brought up the Hamas endorsement of Obama. Senator McCain responded that it is very clear who Hamas wants to be the president of the US, as has Danny Ortega and several others. People should understand, McCain added, that I will be Hamas’ worst nightmare.
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Why he attacks his supposed supporters more than he attacks his opponents. |
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Especially as he hands the Democrats their new permanent majority with his amnesty plan. Goes right along with McCain-(insert liberal name here) that has done more to advance the liberal agenda than any Republican. |
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"People should understand, McCain added, that I will be Hamas’ worst nightmare."
All for more war, eh John?
Given a choice between Obama's association with Ayers and John's thirst for war, its pretty clear who the Americans will pick.
War should always be talked about in the most serious of tones, and heavies of "last resort" regret.
John's cowboy "worst nightmare", "100 years" and "bomb, bomb, bomb Iran" attitude reminds people of another cowboy President.
The irony of course is that Obama may capture the national election even with his association with a known terrorist like Ayers because Obama is not singing "bomb, bomb, bomb Iran", "100 years" and "worst nightmare" tunes.
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He doesn't want to set a negative tone by showing vids of Reverend Wright damning America, but he does want to shape our votes by reminding us who our enemies would prefer as president. Of all people, he should not be the candidate willing to let Hamas, or OBL or whomever, scare us into voting for him. (I am voting for McCain regardles of what Hamas says.) And I commend him for not wanting to run the "Too Extreme For N.C." add. |
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What a fool this man is.
I was just getting to the point where I might have to hold my nose and vote for this inept politician.
After the NC ad and Katrina"it's Bush's fault remarks"., I am just beside myself.
There is no where to go for conservative republicans. |
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And we re-elect them. Even couch cowboys like Clinton. What we don't like are radicals and weenies, like Carter and HW. They get put out.
Ones like Barak Hussein Obama, we take to the woodshed.
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You have it backwards. He can't criticize the media for not picking up on Obama's curious friendships but then bash fellow Republicans who are bringing attention to it. Besides, the ad was not run for his benefit but for that of the local candidates. Typical "Everything is about me" McCain. The guy is such a mealy-mouthed phony. It takes a gifted contortionist to be a Pince Nez RINO without crippling oneself by wrenching something. |
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That was media spin. He generally blamed government -- which is true -- and the specifics he mentioned were much more targeted at Blanco and the clown mayor of New Orleans, democrats both.
Don't worry, McCain likes W, and vice-versa, as did Reagan. Your vote with him is safe.
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... the "faith" or the "minister", McCain is trying to stay above the Faith Wars. He knows that's poison, and he's right to do so.
Note that McCain is very adamant in attacking BHO on the terrorist connection and on the Hamas support, and BHO isn't even the nominee yet.
McCain is a GOP dream come true at this time, and the democrat party's worst nightmare.
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What a refreshing change from all the liberal propaganda the press has been shoveling down out throats.
A man that speaks the truth. This country is so lucky to have such an American hero seeking the highest office in this land.
God Bless America and John McCain. |
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He is going to be Hamas' worst nightmare? As opposed to being everyone else's best nightmare? Details please. That's the problem with this election. When you look at the details, they are all saying the same things. (Spare me the speeches starting with "Gasp! PPhil! Are you serious? YOU don't think there is any difference between them?" Yes. Exactly.) Yet somehow, the very survival of civilization hinges on which of these clowns we vote for. This election is already over unless you want to register a protest vote by voting third party. |
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Hugh:
John McCain seems to avoid conservative talk radio right now. The next time he holds a conference call I suggest you ask this question,
"Senator Mccain you're going to need the votes of conservative yet on several issues such as the North Carolina ad, on your comments about hurricane Katrina, on immigration, on judges, and on global warming you have ticked off conservatives. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO TO MAKE THEM HAPPY SINCE YOU NEED THEIR VOTES?"
What do you think. I'm one conservative who not only has refused to give money to Mr. Mccain, but am seriously thinking of voting for the Democrat nominee or an independent because I don't want him to think that I support his stupid views at all!
Walter Hanson
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McCain keeps saying "Secure the border first". We know that he means amnesty next. The plan is to get the border state Gov's to declare the border secure. Conveniently, they are all on board the cheap labor express. Then his good friend Ted Kennedy will bring back McCain/Kennedy and McCain can provide his good friends across the aisle with their new permanent majority.
I will not vote for amnesty.
http://townhall.com/columnists/AmandaCarpenter/2008/03/28/b loggers_press_mccain_adviser_on_immigration
“John McCain’s position on immigration is very clear and this a question that gets asked at townhall appearances everyday in media appearances and has answered the question at least a thousand times before the New Hampshire primary,” Schmidt said.
He explained, “Any person who supports John McCain’s campaigns is a subscriber to John McCain’s views"
A vote for McCain is a vote for surrender of your country.
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By "secure our border first", McCain doesn't mean secure the way we mean it. He will rely on governors certifying that their borders are secure. In CA, that means Mr. Open Borders Arnold. The only thing we are going to get with any of these clowns is amnesty. Unless they fail to win a mandate. |
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For anyone hoping for someone to make empty promises to you, sorry, that candidate was sent packing a couple of months ago.
McCain doesn't need the loony radio crowd. He proved that by showing them the hand and thrashing their candidate.
They need him.
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be voting FOR you, come this Nov.4th, no, i will be voting against democrat liberalism, whether it be the "manufactured one" or Clinton, the War on Terror demands it, and my family's safety trumps my considerable disdain for you, and its time for you to come off this high horse of yours, set the right tone, yeah right, look, you've had your hands in the pockets of lobbyists for years, and we all remember Charles Keating, so come off it, pal, your just like any other politician, no worse and certainly NO better, so get over yourself, and realize, just who does butter your bread, so, good for you guys in North Carolina, keep up the good work, and pay NO attention to McCain, me thinks the "kooks" got to him. |
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I like his comments on Hamas. They are a terrorist group. They need to be wiped off the map. Call me a war monger, I dont care.
I like his comments on Obama, and trying to get a good explanation of Obama's association with Ayers. Its a legitimate question.
I like that he asked the NC GOP to not run the ad. It was a smart move politically. Personally, I think a 527 should have run that ad. McCain made the right noises, and now the Dems are trying to spin it into him being a "weak" leader because he cant get the NC GOP to not run the ad.
You think if the tables were turned, and something similar were run on McCain, that Obama would go to the NC Dem Party and ask them not to run the ad?
Not likely. Obama doesnt have the spine. He cant even stand up to his preacher, or distance himself from terrorists...theres nothing there that makes me think he would do that.
And while I dont agree with McCain on 100% of his views, I do on about 80%...and in this election, that is good enough for me.
He wants to keep my taxes low and beat the terrorists. Those are my two biggies. |
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Hugh,
I think it's clear that the John Birch Society wing of the GOP is more angry at John McCain than at Barack Obama. |
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We will be voting on Issues, not the Person.
The Supreme Court Judges
The War on Terror
Taxes
Second Amendment..... |
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Can't agree with you on a number of points. To say the MSM didn't play up Reverend Wright or to ingore the fact that George Stephanopolous brought up Ayres in the debate off a talking point allegedly given him by Sean Hannity, flies in the face of reality. McCain doesn't need to tell the MSM to look into Wright or Ayres. They're already there.
Second, you can say the N.C. ad is about local politics, but they're running pictures of Wright and Obama, not local NC opponents. Of course it's about the presidential campaign, and McCain is right to be worried about it for two reasons. A, one of these "local groups" is going to come up with some version of the Willie Horton ad, or the equivalent of saying Obama has a white love child (the reverse of which happened to McCain in 2000), and the left will use that to tar McCain as a bigot, or force him into defense on things that are indefensible. B, For better or worse, the public at large (read, NOT THE PEOPLE ON THIS SITE) believe there is a quantitative and qualitative difference in how much more dirty the Republicans are willing to play than the Democrats. McCain believes he can win without going dirty(or as dirty) as previous campaigns, and Obama has made his name on not wanting to go there. He believes he can beat Obama on his home court, keeping it civil. These commercials are an affront to that belief. I'd rather see ads on policy than on Wright or Ayres, or Cindy McCain. |
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when its the cold stone TRUTH, fool, your boy is so DEAD, its not even funny, i can only hope that the supers don't abandon ship with the rest of the rats, cause' we want Hussein "ears" Soetoro, what a nightmare he has become for you, chump, but that liberal fog your in, you probably still think that "hope and change" routine still plays, what a little fool you are... |
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Straight-talking? My Aunt. He's a frenetic maverick, running all over the place at once. We cannot pin the tail on this donkey; he doesn't stand still long enough for us figure out where he's going to land next.
Conservatives want a stand-up, clear-eyed gladiator to fight for the things we hold dear. Even his very recent conversion on the Bush tax cuts is suspect. His notions of national sovereignty are non-existent. He's bought into the global-warming farce hook, line and sinker. For all his I-love-and-want-to-serve-America, there is little evidence he even knows America.
Having said all this, it's his election to lose, given his pathetic competition among the Dems. But lose it he will if he doesn't settle down and start doing some straight-thinking.
Adult onset ADD? Not a good quality in a POTUS. Mack made some pretty bold promises when Hannity pinned him down. We'll see if Mack remembers. |
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K.G. wrote;
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"Having said all this, it's his (McCain's) election to lose, given his pathetic competition among the Dems."
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An unpopular war, a staggering economy, rising energy and food prices, deflating housing market...and an unpopular two term incumbent President from McCain's own party.
And the MSM which promises to carry The Obamessiah's water for him.
This is hardly McCain's election to lose.
Please.
If there was ever a year when the Democrats SHOULD win, it is 2008.
This is clearly the Democrats' election to lose.
And we plan to take it from them.
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McCain is right to denounce the NC ad. In fact, I believe McCain should start donating to the Obama campaign. Or at least cut some love fest ads setting the "TENOR" of the debate. [BARF...BARF...BARF...BARF...BARF...BARF...] |
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Why does McCain want Obama to apologize? To my mind it is far better to leave this issue hanging around and not give Obama a chance to "put it behind" him. Any attempt by Obama to apologize and repudiate would be phony and not help the GOP in the slightest. It would only allow Obama the opportunity to smugly say, "Look, I already apologized for that."
Obama neither regrets nor feels sorry about the relationship he established with Ayers/Dohrn. And of course he feels the same way about Reverend Wright. I'd much rather have the electorate view the real Barack Obama than allow him to take any piece of high ground on his friendships with ex-terrorists and a race-bating hate monger. |
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Yes, it's the horrible state of things you mention vs. the horrible candidates we are all mentioning. You are right; the Dems should be winning, but their candidates have fatal flaws. I still believe the average American is more prone to vote for Mack, if he will just play his cards right.
People are drawn to strong, clear leadership, not squirrley, mealy-mouths. I believe, in spite of it all, we can take it from them, but Mack has to help us out a little. |
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Hamas, Latin American communists like Chavez and Ortega, Kos, and most of MSM (with the possible exception of ABC's Stephanopoulos and Gibson, how could Obama lose?
Simply by letting America know about his associates who condemn America while enjoying the liberties and bounty our system offers to them.
His wife, Michelle Obama, made more money last year alone than 85% of Americans will make in their entire working lives--and yet, she's not proud of America. One wonders whether Ms. Obama would feel that way if she had to drink powdered milk and eat tuna and noodles while growing up in a working-class family. Some of us feel that America offers great hope; apparently others only view themselves as victims because the silver spoon in their mouth isn't large or gold-plated enough to suit their narcissism.
His "pastor and spiritual guide", Jeremiah Wright, condemns America because we aren't Marxist enough and he isn't on the board of the "dictatorship of the proletariat." May the Lord rebuke him for leading people down that false path.
His neighbor and fellow activist, William Ayers, is a cold-blooded murderer--a genuine American terrorist--who will face eternal judgment for his detestable and cowardly actions. And now he's treated as just another normal citizen by Senator Obama. May they both receive in themselves what they so richly deserve.
I detest many of Senator McCain's actions, particularly his efforts to undermine the legal immigration process; but he is far and away a better man than Barack Hussein Obama ever will be. |
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Just as soon as Juan Mequeno repudiates Russ Feingold and apologizes for associating with an unrepentant enemy of the Constitution.
Wait - that was Mequeno's bill too. |
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"There is no where to go for conservative republicans."
Third party this year, dear. Either the Constitution Party or the Libertarian Party. Or simply sit it out. But no true conservative votes for Mequeno. |
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To the good guys on this board: the days of going to work and leaving public policy to the wonks are over. the wonks have failed us. no need for me to list the failures. ya'll know 'em.
the point is that whoever becomes the next occupant, or the occupant after that, will have to be monitored and coached from day one.
in other words, for every rear guard battle we fight today against the left (or our guy) there will be 50 more in the future.
the power of the occupant will come by and through us, not vice-versa.
think harriet m, immigration etc...
we have to meet head-on the knuckleheads wherever they raise their pretty little heads. and we'll do so by pushing back very hard. |
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Cicero: Love your Juan Mequeno. I speak Spanish and it took me a minute to get it.
Cross: Sounds good, my friend, but how do you see that happening? As we speak, GWB is doing stuff with impunity and we just sit on our hands. (or type with our hands instead of actually doing something effective.)
Yeah, we stopped amnesty for a moment, but what did we win? Not too much. Dunk's got some of the fence built, but the illegals are still running through MY yard and costing the US more than the Iraq War.
Neither GWB nor Juan Mequeno care one whit about American sovereignty or American exceptionalism. Their allegiance is not to us, the people or the flag on their lapels. It's to corporations who benefit from cheap labor and an open border.
Who's going to moniter and coach the POTUS? Us powerful yokels out here in the hinterlands? I guess we could hire Bill Ayres to blow up some things. |
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McCain's the Republican candidate. This is a case where we have a better candidate than the voting base, by far, y'all. JorgeX is right on this one: vote for McCain, keep the GOP pure white, y'all. |
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Society, George Soros has given the "punk" David Brock, 40M to go for your throat, while you make nice, so, after they get through with you, you just might need some support, Pal, think about it, and lay off the North Carolina Republican Party, just consider them, MAVERICKS, you know what a maverick is, don't cha'. |
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Be careful what you wish for my friends, your hatred of McCain and his faults will end you up with Barak Obama. The damage Barak Obama could inflict on this country is enormous.
Is McCain perfect? No. But is McCain substantially and substantively better than Barak Obama or Hillary Clinton. Absolutely.
John McCain does not care about American exceptionalism? What BS that is. McCain is a patriot and hero and while I respect your disagreement with him about policy, that is just nonsense in light of his service to this country. I hope you are being sarcastic KG, but talk about going full circle and saying you need to mimic (or hire) Ayers. |
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With this Bircher and Buchanan nativist nonsense.
So is Reagan. |
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Just about the time I think that I may be able to vote for McCain, he does something stupid. His latest idiotic move is his call to the North Carolina GOP to not run a truthful ad about Barack Obama.
Many of us believe that if McCain becomes the President he will side with the democrats more than his own party’s will. For this reason, many would rather vote for the Three Stooges because that is what we are going to get in this election! Therefore, if we are going to have a stooge as President it should be someone who at least admits to being a democrat! My advise –for what is it worth- is to prepare for some pain in the coming years, because that is what we are going to get!
By the way, we lost the Supreme Court with the “gang of fourteen” and the nomination of John McCain!
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"Yeah, we stopped amnesty for a moment, but what did we win? Not too much."
i disagree. we won huge. we delivered a punch to the snout of the so-called elite that they'll never forget. virtually every state now has legislation pending to stop the immigration rot. think whack-a-mole. the illegals are leaving tough enforcement states such as oklahoma or arizona for easier confines such as texas or kansas. my hunch is that the last state to enact tough legislation will have all the illegal aliens.
"Who's going to moniter and coach the POTUS? Us powerful yokels out here in the hinterlands?"
you (we) are. yesterday, the NC gop chairwoman Linda Daves told McCain to take a hike over the ad issue. that's how you do it. you push back hard. you fight on the local level. another example is harriet m. w backed down quickly. another example is the dubai port fiasco. and now sovereign wealth funds are coming under tougher scrutiny by the sec, even for investments below the 10% threshhold. another example is when the public stepped up and said no to china buying unocal.
"Neither GWB nor Juan Mequeno care one whit about American sovereignty or American exceptionalism. Their allegiance is not to us, the people or the flag on their lapels. It's to corporations who benefit from cheap labor and an open border."
i agree. that's why i trade with small businessmen who have similar concerns as me. one way that you can have an impact is to inquire about the legal status of the workers with whom you do business. i admit it's hard to do, and all consuming.
be positive, my man. we can win.
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If he doesn't stop slapping his own party. he's going to find it real hard to get elected.
You think he would have noticed that money from people like us is NOT coming into his election dept.
WAKE UP JOHN! |
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You're the one who wanted this guy who won't take on the Democrats to be the nominee. He only knows how to take on conservatives. A$$ backwards. |
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Don't worry Barak Obama loves all the bitter people like you.
If you think that getting Alito and Roberts on the bench were losing the Supreme Court, you are obviously going to be really disappointed when President Obama had his way with the next round of appointments. |
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All of the socialism without that nasty D label.
Oh, yeah, and he's better than Obama. For the Democrats.
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To me that's the problem with McCain. Yes, his duty to country was exemplary during VNam. But stuff he's done since seems so contradictory. His flakiness on the border/immigration make no sense to me unless explained by the fact that he has some other agenda than maintaining an intact America.
On one hand he and Bush are fierce about the ME and jihadists, but one the other, act like we have no southern border to protect. It's not just that terrorists could enter the border, but the whole notion we are taken over by an hispanic culture, alien to the anglo one of our Founding Fathers and nobody in power seems to see this as a problem. It's like America is not worth defending.
My crack about Ayres was directed to Cross who seems to believe that we folks out here have some kind of power over our leaders. Yeah, we rose up and said "no mas" to amnesty, but that was the exception rather than the rule.
Mostly we sit around crabbing or pointing fingers, but in the end what power to we have? What power do we have over McCain? He doesn't listen...just goes his merry, maverick way. I readily admit Mack would be way better than either of the Dems. But there's something unnerving about McCain too.
To me he doesn't seem to get it. Convince me I'm wrong. I would love to feel more solid about him. |
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McCain probably fills the proverbial conservative water glass 3/4 and it is not enough, so you will help elect the most liberal member of the Senate, Barak Obama, backed with Democratic majorities in House and Senate.
Are you insane?
There are a lot of ex-wives in divorce court less vindictive and bitter than you guys.
Please do not describe yourselves as conservatives. You are Birchers, Buchananites, nativists, but you are definitely not conservative.
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And you are? What is conservative about encouraging the takeover of your country by foreign nationals who just walk in unimpeded? |
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Many of us see another amnesty as the end of the Republic, the stampede it will set off will be overwhelming. If we don't stop the inundation none of the rest matters. We'll be a banana republic before the jihadis can get us. There will never be another GOP president or Congressional majority. Importing voters for the socialists is as stupid as it gets.
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so you will help elect the most liberal member of the Senate, Barak Obama, backed with Democratic majorities in House and Senate.
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If McCain doesn't stop insulting his own party HE will lose the run for PREZ. Not us, him!
Take off your muddy eye glasses.
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"Be careful what you wish for my friends, your hatred of McCain and his faults will end you up with Barak Obama. The damage Barak Obama could inflict on this country is enormous."
But your argument here sort reminds me of something I read - over at Chronicles - about the late traditionalist Roman Catholic classics scholar John Senior. Upon being told in November 1980 that Reagan was beating Carter in a landslide, Senior replied, "Oh, that’s too bad. I was hoping Carter might win. At this point in time it would be more dignified to be killed in the collapse than nibbled to death by ducks."
So, bring on Obama. In the meantime, the GOP can finally have that "Come To Jesus" meeting it's needed to have for a long time. First order of business will be booting the neoconservatives.
"Buckley is rolling over in his grave with this Bircher and Buchanan nativist nonsense. So is Reagan."
Well, here's a little history for you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ns0NlUgcsY
Long live authentic conservatism.
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Gee Hugh, ole John got 2 out of the 3 blog questions correct. But, the NC ad has been a disaster for him. Perhaps when you have him on your program you could ask him if he ever, ever has really criticized liberal Dems, leftist socialist pacifists in the Senate in the Dining Room instead of dissing Pubs, Conservatives, Christians and Southerners who all make up the BASE of the Republican Party? He does not know who his real enemies are. They are liberal Dems who would smear, rake him over the coals, and undermine his every action when he becomes Prez. Not one of his SCOTUS nominations will get through unless he starts to fight these Wright-Ayers thugs in the Dem leadership now. Enough Senator. |
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Joe,
Do you believe that McCain is going to appoint better judges than Obama? Do you think we will get an Alito and Roberts from a McCain administration? May I suggest you take a course on critical thinking, and logic!
Sense I believe in God and the Second amendment, I guess I am one of Barak Obama’s bitter people. Nevertheless, I will be writing in The Three Stooges for president!
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I think Repubs are just more comfortable riding in the backseat where they belong. Go McCain! |
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Joe,
Do you believe that McCain is going to appoint better judges than Obama? Do you think we will get an Alito and Roberts from a McCain administration? May I suggest you take a course on critical thinking, and logic!
Sense I believe in God and the Second amendment, I guess I am one of Barak Obama’s bitter people. Nevertheless, I will be writing in The Three Stooges for president!
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He's always collegial with Ted Kennedy, Russ Feingold, Joe Leiberman, and other Democrats, his GOP colleages get F--K YOU!
Pretty much how he feels about most conservatives.
Be a maverick, vote third party.
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Or not vote at all.
I support McLame because Obama scares the heck out of me.
But if john thinks he can play games with me and our Rep party. He's Very mistaken! |
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I took you up on your Southern Avenger link. Thou almost convenceth me to become a conversative.
Bunch a caca baked in the cake right now. Paul and Buchanan are marginalized as kooks. So...what is your plan? Who do you support? |
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That's my problem with Mack. He is playing games and getting away with it. Do you have a plan? |
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child out of wedlock together, it would sound like Sissyroe. |
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operation Chaos. Vote for HILLARY |
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Conservatism has been usurped. And if you look closely at the Old Right, you'll see that while it is called the "Right" for a reason, there *are* some points of agreement with the left, mainly when it comes to big business (which it eschews just as much as big government), labor, the environment, and localism vs. globalism. One of the most articulate and learned observers of the Old Right, mainly the Southern Old Right, is the ex-Marxist historian Eugene Genovese. I'd Most of his analyses were written while he was still a Marxist. I'd recommend about anything he's written. I'd also recommend the books and articles of Andrew Bacevich, who's reviewed one of Genovese's books:
http://www.leaderu.com/ftissues/ft9512/reviews/southern.htm l
As for your question about whom I'm supporting, well, it will either be the CP or LP candidate. But, more "mainstream" folks to watch in the future: Chuck Hagel and Jim Webb. |
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No plan, other than I will support my state rep party and just pass this prez election this time!
McCain had better pull his head out of his a** or this race is over for him! |
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What did Shoeless Joe Jackson for the Chicago Black Sox in the 1919 World Series? .359? Yet he got booted out of baseball for life for throwing the Series. McCain is the political equivalent of Jackson. Puts up good numbers but when the game is on the line, the other team always seems to win. All of his friends are on the other team and he can't get along with anyone on his own team. Catching my drift? See a problem here? |
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Hey folks I have not only heard, but seen that ad.
* The Republican party of North Carolina names the two democrat candidates for governor and say they shouldn't have endorsed Obama. It is a local party ad.
* The ad does have pictures of the two democrat candidates that were mentioned in the ad.
* The Obama campaign has already said since Mccain doesn't want to talk about rev. wright he doesn't have the right to talk about the terrorist friend that Obama has.
* For those people who think that the MSM has been on this case wright has been known about for a whole year. Just think if they had come out with this in December. Obama wouldn't be in the position to win the nomination today. Edwards would be the candidate since he would've gotten the anti Hillary vote.
Walter Hanson
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But your scenario doesn't make much sense either. What's the Muslim downside for a BHO presidency? He's going to pick up his marbles and go home ASAP. Going to sit down and drink tea with them and have nice conversations.
The whole raison d'etre of Barack's candidacy re: Islam seems one of non-resistance. What's not to like?
Islam means "submission." Submit to Allah in some fashion or die. Which candidate seems most likely to submit to Allah?
Yup, they certainly can lie in the cause of Islam. But are they lying..or just want you to think they are lying? |
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Nice Shoeless Joe Jackson reference. I laughed. But when it comes to throwing games, looks like you are the one trying to flip the board over.
Here's your McCain quote for the day:
All I can tell you, Jennifer, is that I think it's very clear who Hamas wants to be the next president of the United States. So apparently has Danny Ortega and several others. I think that people should understand that I will be Hamas's worst nightmare....If senator Obama is favored by Hamas I think people can make judgments accordingly.
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Yes, McCain, will be breaking our conservative hearts few times all the way, till November, BUT, there are issues are far more important, that will make us vote for him,
Sorry, Obama is flawed and his ideology is extremely dangerous for America.
As a Senator, as achieved very little, complaining about small-town, anti-immigrant religious clinging to their guns will harm him in general election.
Obama's relationships, with his pastor Wright "black theology", Rezko, Ayers, all will speak for his moral jugement. |
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FBomb and Kimbertwit to join:
http://www.recreate68.org
Burn, baby, burn.... |
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...or is it 68 now? This is amazing. I kinda know how they feel. The parties and the way they set up the primaries do deny the people their voice.
Are you going?
Denver Burning just doesn't have the same cache as LA or Chicago or Mississippi though. There's a fabulous and interesting restaurant in Denver called the Stockman's Exchange or something. The menu only consists of wild game: elk, moose, vension, rattle snake, Rocky Mtn. oysters...stuff like that. Delicious, actually.
Maybe they will add a few specials during the convention: fresh kill of the day or something. Are they sure they want to go back to '68? |
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will barely stay afloat during Dem Teargas Week. Think, for a second, of the items you listed and then apply it to the Green-Nancy Crowd...See? Can the Stockman's Menu learn to offer tofu, sushi, soy power drinks and non-fat-decaff Lattes?? |
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You are soooooooooo right. What was I thinking? And the place is full of taxidermied items---stuffed heads of hapless games hanging everywhere. Of special note is a HUGE sperm whale "thing."
This place is so unPC. Good place for a great reunion of real men and their ladies though. |
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death spiral will hit the ground before he's the nominee, after the latest Rev. revelations, the ground is getting very close, the "uniter", thats rich, thats really rich, what an unmitigated disaster is this "manufactured" candidate for you dumba55 liberals, boy, is this fun, why is it fun, you ask, cause' your in the death spiral with him....HA, HA, HA,.......gettin' dizzy, yet?
Onward to Denver and your date with RECREATE 68', Mr. Spagnola says, "come, come you anarchists, come", the clear mountain air and the teargas, come and breathe DEEP.... |
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Bill Maher just called Jeremiah Wright word that is a an old fashioned private eye. Not enough of a clue for you? Maher called Jeremiah Wright a Monica Lewinsky popsicle.
Why? Because Wright said Obama was just being a typical politician. Because to the folks Obama is trying to court, that comment from Wright (and not things like "God Damn America...") hurts more than anything.
Interesting enough, Garry Shandling started to waiver about Hillary and Obama and admitted he was being drawn in by McCain. Arianna, Phil Donahue, and Maher freaked out and almost declared a intervention for him.
Maher is absolutely anti McCain. For a second I thought Bill had been hanging out with Virginia Patriot and Pasadena Phil. |
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The minute I heard the "I'm a pastor and he's a politican" I fell over laughing. That REALLY had to hurt them over at the Obama image-making machine.
Was it a calculated dig on Wright's part--or is it just one more thing he's clueless about?
Maher is anti everything: Mormons, the Pope, God, I think. Have you listened to the Evan Sayet speech: How Liberals Think, at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c.
It will explain everything you need to know about Maher. But not V.Pat and Pasadena. |
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"It will explain everything you need to know about Maher. But not V.Pat and Pasadena."
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VA Pat & Crown City Phil may be driven by different m-o-t-i-v-a-t-i-o-n-s than Bill Maher, but the end r-e-s-u-l-t is still the same; none of them will vote for McCain, and all three can sleep at nite knowing that President Obama will be answering those 3 AM phone calls.
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Teargas Week in Denver must solemnly pledge to spend $$ at the Stockman's Exchange. Wonder how far it is from Cotten's Crash Pad and my suite at The Brown Palace. Oh, well...We can mapquest it. |
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...I am bringing some libs in for Rocky Mtn. oyster appetizers. You are what you eat. Maybe it will help them get a couple.
Did you listen to the Evan Sayet stuff? Did you say you had heard it before? That clears it all up. Sure would be nice to have a bold, articulate leader who could speak truth to the masses.
Actually this Wright/Ayres/Dohrn stuff has been really good at revealing to normal people, Dems and Pubs alike, the nutso thinking of the left elites. This is a good thing. |
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Too bad the RNC had to have an amnesty candidate. It's not my fault the GOP nominated someone I can't vote for. |
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...in my opinion, saying he hadn't even "seen the NC ad and didn't want to." And yet he's out making derrogatory comments about something he's not seen? Demanding it be taken down?
Just what we need. A POTUS who forms opinions and plans sof action in ignorance. Or based on what "somebody told him?"
On one hand, it might have been like the shady Huck ad: I'm not showing it, but if I did.....
Mack might have been saying to take the NC ad down, and then because of the controversy ginned up by him, it got played all over the country. That would have been a smart-fox move.
But Mack is not gittin' it. More disappointing than the ad is that, in my opinion, the Wright/Ayres/Dohrn stuff is incredibly important. It finally shows to the average American just what goes on in the minds of the Anti-American academics, who have control of our educational system and most of the MSM.
That Mack doesn't see this, that he just sees the Wright affair as scuzzy, gotcha politics is frustrating beyond belief. There's a reason he was one of the lowest ranked students in his Annapolis class, I guess.
Where there is no vision, the people perish. (That actually is a verse in the Bible, unlike NancyP's so-called Bible references that don't exist.)
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...today on his Sat. national show, saying how chummy Mack and Huck are in Ark....making the case that Mack could choose Huck to get the evang vote.
Sorry, OHM, it that happens, I am jumping in with V.Pat and Phil. I can vote for Mack, however difficult for the reasons you list, but McHuck? Never. |
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McHuck makes you upchuck?
It just gets more bizarro..........
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Upchuckabee? MacUppabee? Muckuppabee? The prob with Mack is that generally a nominee could just get a VP that didn't hurt him. In this case, Mack's lacks need shoring up. Who's going to be good enuff to get that job done?
I say Mack should choose Mitt and then go sit on the beach...in the sun. Don't think that's gonna happen, though. |
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but I'm voting for him and sending $$. That said, I listened to some of Hugh last night and it sounded like Mac is 'getting it' better than you think. The P.O.W. side of John is going to tear into O'Bammy's Ayers-Sweet Bernardine relationship aplenty. As well he should. |
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K.G. wrote;
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"Sorry, OHM, it that happens, I am jumping in with V.Pat and Phil. I can vote for Mack, however difficult for the reasons you list, but McHuck? Never."
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K.G.,
Sounds like what you're saying is that you hate Mike Huckabee more than you hate Obama, the Weathermen Underground, the leftists, and the Islamic Jihadists.
At least you're honest about it.
:)
...just as Virginia Patriot & Crown City Phil are honest about the fact that they hate McCain more than they hate Obama, the Weathermen Underground, the leftists, and the Islamic Jihadists. |
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"Hate"??
Can't speak for my friend, K.G., but I have always truly hated the WeatherUnderground. Loathed and Despised the punk Wantabe Killers. But, "Hate" Bazama, Lady MacClinton or Huckleberry...?? Huh??
But, if McJuan throws dirt in our faces with a Huck pick--the amiable grifter Gov. doesn't GET America's War, but Mac does--then I'd join K.G. in putting the Lunacy Sign around John's neck. Can't imagine it happening, but he often surprises me. Rarely for the better. |
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Here's the deal. I'm from CA. My vote gets eaten up in the electoral college. Yeah, I know the popular vote numbers mean something when it comes to a moral victory and a mandate, but.......with Huck, logic goes out the window.
Logically HRC/BHO, the jihadists, the loony left with their inability to make a moral judgment, the Weather Underground are all deserving of fighting tooth and toenail to defeat them.
I never said I hated Huck (did I?). But the upchuck factor is greater with Huck than it is with the Taliban. I know that doesn't make rational sense. It's just aversion therapy, I guess.
I was/am a Mitt supporter and the things Huck did were gratuitously ratty and hypocritical. A similar argument could be made about the way Mack treated Mitt. Huck as VP would just add insult to injury. It would be dang hard to swallow.
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Glad to hear your report re: Mack v. the Mad Bombers. As I'm sure you heard, Mack also made strong statements re: Hamas endorsing Barack and he (Mack) is Hamas' worst nightmare. Well, good.
If he's going to stand up to these loonies, he does have my vote. Yeah....even if he were to choose Huck. But you guys gotta let me whine a little bit. |
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...I'm not sure Mack won't do well in CA. He said last night he was going to campaign here...not write us off. Especially if the candidate is Obama.
Californians might just be crazy enough to vote for Mack. He's pro-green, pro-immigrant, pro-military, anti-tax, anti-border and anti-Republican. Juan Hernandez can campaign with him, along with Guv. Schwarzeneutered.
That works. |
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have a Very BIG problem if Mac brought Huckleberry aboard. Make the putz Sec'y of Commerce or something... NOT V.P. He's a grifter and a yutz populist and does NOT "Get", down to his toes GET, our staying ever on the Offense with Radical Islam. |
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Not to worry, not a snowball's chance. McCain may be a mean nasty little nutjob, but he's NOT stupid. |
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of your statement, while vastly sensitive, is appreciated. |
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I'm kinda starting to drink some of that kool-aid Joe was trying to sell for so long. McCain might end up not being so bad. Let's keep our fingers crossed, he's blown a few things so far, though. |
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"..just as Virginia Patriot & Crown City Phil are honest about the fact that they hate McCain more than they hate Obama, the Weathermen Underground, the leftists, and the Islamic Jihadists."
That is just the kind of outright lie that discredits your line of argument. I'm not going to be voting for ANY of these liberal phonies. Big difference from what you just said that I said. But I'm sure most readers know this already. They aren't as stupid as you require them to be.
You can't lie your way to the truth and lying is not going to change anyone's minds here. If you want to persuade others, try starting with the truth and don't twist and malign what other people say. There is nothing more insulting and destructive of discussions than to have a liar like you telling others what they said when they said something completely different or tell them what they meant when they said when they know what they meant. After all, they said it. It's a stupid and disrespectful tactic. I reserve insults to a very small group of commenters here but you are truly a lying sack of $hit who can't see beyond your own nose. In two years, you are only the third person I've said that to at TH. |
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Jihadists and break their stuff, I'll be voting for him, too. Michael medved is a huge fan of McJuan's...Really rather sickeningly so...But, I'm with Hugh...NO time to give it ALL to the Socialist-Defeatist Party. |
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on Al Qaeda, regularly contributing his with and wisdom here and I have been making fun of him. Shame on me.
BJob has such a highly developed intellect, keen analytic ability, my question is why BJ ob has quit his job at the 'skateboards-n-dayglo posters' shop and enlisted?
With a genyuss like BJob on the plan, HAMAS, Al Qaeda and the TonTon Macout should all fall to his unerring brilliance!
Bravo!
Now if ywe could just get him to start dressing like a male and quit smoking crrack... |
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I totally agree with your assessment of Huck...and then some. He is a grifter, a populist and a bunch of other things. Cute as a button with his innocently raised eyebrows, little dimples and southern boy, Bible-quotin' charm.
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Pasadena Phil wrote;
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"...you are truly a lying sack of $hit who can't see beyond your own nose."
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Pasadena Phil, I give you my express consent to call me whatever names you like.
If it makes you "feel" better to call me names, then I say, "go for it, big fella !"
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I do realize I upset some of the older folks in this thread by using the word "hate."
("Hate" or "hating" or "hater" are words which we younger folks do tend to overuse.)
Thus, I'll restate my premise; if you guys don't vote for McCain for your aforementioned reasons, one can then conclude that you "dislike" or "object to" Huckabee or McCain more than you "dislike" or "object to" Obama, the Weathermen Underground, the leftists, and the Islamic Jihadists.
After all, in November, there is a choice; J-o-h-n M-c-C-a-i-n or B-a-r-a-c-k O-b-a-m-a...
And Obama is the radical leftist who pals around with former members of the terrorist organization, and who vows to appease Islamic Jihad.
Whom do you "dislike" or "object to" more ?
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habit of pi**ing us off and pulling cute little surprises. IF he lost his mind and picked Huck for Veep, I'd chew my arms off at the shoulders and be unable to dimple chads as I proudly did in Florida nearly 8-years ago.
Unimaginable to me. So, you'd have to axe me again if that horrifying moment comes. I detest Huck. Period. A Grifter Yutz.
But, the Dems would be ruinous. But, I'd find the act unforgivable. |
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Good for you, I knew there was a limit. |
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Neo has limits????????????? Who knew?
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Underneath the sensitive little fuzzball exterior lies an iron man. Delicacy and empathy are only skin deep on Neo. T-Rex beneath. |
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