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Friday, January 11, 2008
McCain Cakewalk?
Posted by: Patrick Ruffini at 11:10 AM

If John McCain is somehow prevented from winning the nomination, it won’t be because of his fellow candidates.

Last night, the rest of the field refused to lay a glove on McCain. Many conservatives I talk to still assume he will fall of his own weight. And, truth be told, the other campaigns’ visceral dislike of Mitt Romney is blinding them to the need for a strong voice to articulate the conservative base’s deep distrust of McCain.

For McCain, a seemingly impossible confluence of events have had the effect of parting the waters for his previously treacherous path to the nomination.

First, McCain emerged from the back of the pack. The conservative establishment didn’t know if this was serious or not, so they didn’t organize. At the outset, Romney probably found this useful to knock off Rudy in NH. Then Rudy decided he didn’t have the warewithal to challenge his friend McCain in a pro-choice, Northeastern state.

In Iowa too, Huckabee used McCain as a club to bash Romney. Romney only started attacking McCain in late December, and then only on McCain’s home field of New Hampshire.

Okay, I can see letting New Hampshire slip. That happened in 2000. But certainly South Carolina could be counted on finish him off for us. Is McCain getting any heat there?

Not much.

Mitt Romney has to save himself first, and he’s doing that in Michigan. That probably necessitates a pivot to a more positive message. Like other cash-strapped candidates, he’s counting on Huckabee to finish the job in SC. It’s also probably too late for any 527s to get going.

The paradox here is that while a McCain loss is more likely in South Carolina, Huckabee is the candidate most likely to let McCain off the ropes. Like Rudy, he seems to be running for Mr. Congeniality at times. Huckabee’s path to the nomination lies in convincing conservatives why John McCain was so unacceptable to them to begin with. He has to make a decision about whether he’s running for President or Vice President.

As for Rudy, if he gets to make the case in Florida, his tax argument is a good start, but it’s not enough. Rudy will need to make the case that he has the temperament to be Commander-in-Chief — and be willing to get personal in the way that McCain already has with Bernie Kerik and the 9/11 swiftboats.

FDT is in many ways the most natural person to make the case — with the most conservative movement credentials of any candidate — but it’s hard to tell if he’s still in it or is just a sleeper cell for his Washington buddy McCain, siphoning votes away from Huckabee in South Carolina.

The other candidates personally like McCain. Their staff tend to be more moderate than the GOP primary electorate, so they many have trouble seeing just how dispirited the base would be with McCain as the nominee, particularly if Obama manages to pull it out, but also against Hillary.

It’s time to take the gloves off. If you assume that McCain can still lose this, it’s a matter of driving straight down the fairway to Minneapolis-St. Paul. If you assume he’ll still be the nominee, it’s a matter of testing whether conservatives can set aside some pretty serious objections to a likely nominee.

If conservative distrust of McCain still isn’t as big a deal as I think it is, so be it. But the nomination is too serious to approach this with anything but eyes wide open. We can’t afford to get buyer’s remose — of the kind we’ve already had with McCain for most of the last eight years — particularly as he tacks left against the Democrats and his general election numbers sink back to where they were when he was last under attack in the spring.

Primaries and the sharp jabs that come with them are good for the process. They ensure we have a nominee who is thoroughly vetted. The last thing we need is what happened to the Democrats in 2004, when Kerry emerged at the last minute, wasn’t tested, and turned out to be a horrible candidate in the general.



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Observer writes: Sunday, January, 13, 2008 8:22 PM
The Left
It is depressing looking at some of these national polls. GOP support for the religious left represented by Huckabee and the secular left represented by John McCain account for over 50% of those polled. Either these are rogue polls or the Reagan Revolution truely is dead!!
BG writes: Sunday, January, 13, 2008 6:10 PM
Left
Romney is the only conservative candidate left. Fred is running 4th in SC in single digits. He is not going to win SC.

Romney has to stay in even if he runs second in MI. There is nobody else on immigration. Rudy just went amnesty like McCain and Huck.

Rudy will divide the McCain vote but Rudy is a lot weaker now and will be even weaker after MI and SC. Rudy has yet to act like he even wants the nomination. Fred's very late slow action in IA and Rudy's withdrawal from NH has resulted in them being replaced by Huck and McCain. Sometimes you out smart yourself.
Joe writes: Sunday, January, 13, 2008 1:38 PM
Weak due to his inherent Mitt-ness
After spending more money than his major opponents combined, Romney appears more and more clearly unelectable, and a Saturday column by Gail Collins in the New York Times gives a clear explanation why. “Unfortunately, there’s something about Romney’s perfect grooming, his malleability and his gee-whiz aura that seems to really irritate both the other candidates and the voters,” she writes. “What bothers voters about Romney, as it turns out, is not his Mormonism but his inherent Mitt-ness.”

She’s right, of course. As I’ve said repeatedly over the last several weeks, the problem for Romney isn’t his faith, it’s his phoniness. It’s even worse to see that in-authenticity combined with an all-too-visible mean and nasty streak in going after his rivals.



http://michaelmedved.townhall.com/blog/g/56375486-5a44-49eb -b0ff-7002afd5d0bf
sans pareil writes: Sunday, January, 13, 2008 11:38 AM
CONflagration vs CONfluene
The MSM is in Full Blown HyperDrive while they attempt to INFORM the Conservative Voter Who, In Their un-asked-for opinion, We as Conservatives Should Rally Behind.
Just because C-O-N begins the word conservative doesn't mean We have to Fall for One.
AND
Does anyone sense there might be more to this than meets the eye?
Can The Very REAL Strength Of The Still Vibrant Reagan Revolution Be So Frightening to Them?

Lately, EVERY Analysis of the Republican Party's CONstituemts breaks down to - "Pick A Liberal Candidate Because THERE IS NO RONALD REAGAN..."

No Surrender - No Compromise
That is the mantra Reaganites Should Be Endorsing

Now is NOT the Time to Burn the Conservative Planks of OUR Platform!
NOW IS the Time for the Conservatives in The Republican Party to Band Together & ELECT a President Of OUR Choosing!

Tell You What...I Might Compromise and vote for the 1st Liberal-Republican that Invokes Reagans Name Truthfully - By Admitting "If Ronald Reagan Were Alive today...HE Wouldn't Vote For Me"

I Know ONE Candidate (2 counting Hunter or 2 1/2 Paul) who wouldn't be able to say that and be correct. Ron WOULD CONsider Each of The Three Before Making The Obvious Choice...Fred Thompson!

Only Fred Can Re-Unite The Party & Re-Ignite The Torch Of The Republican Revolution Again!

THAT IS exactly what the MSM & the Chattering Classes from inside the Beltway & New York ARE AFRAID Of!

Vote Conservative
Vote Thompson '08

W/O=

roho writes: Sunday, January, 13, 2008 6:18 AM
S-2611 McCain/Kennedy/Bush
"Amnesty for all bill".

I would vote Putin before voting McCain!!!
Rayfinn writes: Sunday, January, 13, 2008 5:59 AM
How quick some forget
McCain-Kennedy shamnesty bill is the cause for 500,000 plus American Patriots shutting down the Congressional switchboards and faxes. Maybe Michigan can afford to loose jobs to illegals or maybe they are shallow on information.Are there any Patriots in Michigan who will wake up people in time. Z cards gave illegals permanent stay in the US. That is unfair to my friend and others who became legal citizens the legal way. Wake up Michigan!!!
sans pareil writes: Saturday, January, 12, 2008 10:19 PM
Fun Facts?
Fact: There is no Ronald Reagan this time around.
Fact #2: Anti-Reagan candidates are everywhere.

Now, can we all agree Mike Huckabee is a likeable, affable, pious and, very smart man. But a Conservative. No how. No way.

Could it be that Huckabee is in the race only to siphon off a large percentage of one of the largest parts of the Republican base, Evangelical Christians and, with that support attempt to posit himself as a VP candidate?

"How is it the average Republican voter, many Evangelical Christians among them, will neither accept nor vote for the RINO Senator from Arizona, John McCain, because he is so obviously NOT a Conservative. Yet for many Christian voters there seems to be a clear double standard when it comes to the Tax Increasing Liberal Gov. from Arkansas.

However, Another Possibility Exists -
The Huckabee Followers are in on a Crusade to protect the country from a candidate they 'know' is a Cult member, becoming POTUS.
**Makes the earlier inquiry from Huck (the Jesus/Satan being brothers thing) more understandable now doesn't it?

Vote Smart
Cast a Real Vote
For A Real Conservative

Vote Fred Thompson '08

W/O=

Con4fred writes: Saturday, January, 12, 2008 8:06 PM
McCain supports Vets?
When is John McCain going to be asked why he's voted against Vet healthcare funding six times?
eball writes: Saturday, January, 12, 2008 2:00 PM
McCain?
For all you Fred fans out there do you not see that Fred is not running for President but VP? By attacking Huck in SC he is doing the bidding of McCain. He cannot beat McCain in SC because he cannot take away enough Huck votes to win. McCain is beating Mitt in Michigan and will win SC thanks to Fred. McCain is our nominee unless Mitt wins in Michigan or Huck wins in SC or finally Rudy wins in Florida. Check the latest poll in Florida if you Rudy backers think you can derail the Mo from McCain in Florida if you do not get help from Mitt or Huck. Rudy needs to get busy in Michigan or SC to take some McCain votes away or Romney needs to get back up in SC to take some McCain votes away. Does anyone not see a smiling McCain and his team doing a handshake deal with his old buddy Fred to take down his last obstacle (Huck) in SC? If you Fred backers really want McCain as President keep on attacking Huck in SC because that is what you are going to get.
JX writes: Saturday, January, 12, 2008 12:14 PM
Delegate Math
Great analysis Patrick. There is a little more in play here, February 5th is going to be a mess.

Check out the delegate math: http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp? articleID=48802

I don't think anyone can take this thing on Feb. 5, the numbers and the candidate's regional bases are just too diverse.

A diverse Republican Party, who would've thought?

JX
ElephantBiz.com

bigkam writes: Saturday, January, 12, 2008 12:04 PM
Facing the Facts
Folks, there is no perfect candidate this time around, they all have problems. But I think all conservatives agree that we cannot allow the Democrats to win this election, and take this nation in the direction of their "change". Now, McCain may not be the perfect conservative, and I disagree with him on several issues, but this much I understand at this point: he is the only one who has a chance to win the upcoming election from the GOP side. The polls show it, and any Deomcratic analyst will tell you that they are truly afraid of him in the upcoming general election. To boot, McCain is an extreme fiscal conservative who may actually cut back some of the ridiculous spending in Washington, which is a very important issue for me. When it comes down to it, the sooner people understand that McCain is the only GOP hope, the better off we'll all be.
sid writes: Saturday, January, 12, 2008 11:57 AM
Crazy right = Crazy left
The left claims we are victims because the government doesn't "take care" of us enough. The rights says we are victims of illegal ailiens and ALL of our problems would just go away if we got rid of them. The right doesn't have a problem spending all our money, all the wihile claiming to be better than the rest. The left is proud of their stance to spend even more. A funny thing happened after the 04 election: The right discovered we had an illegal ailien problem. WOW - what a revelation. Never mind they were willing to exploit them prior to 04. After all, we would want to get in the way of the far right's power quest. GWB campaigned on comprehensive reform ----not much of a peep on a national level from the "victims of illegals society". Get over yourselves. We need to solve the problem of illegal ailiens - and we do have one. The far right has NO interest in solving it. John McCain does. As far as the rule of law......blame yourselves for being silent for the last 20 years. Look in the mirror. John McCain will solve this problem.
Virginia Patriot writes: Saturday, January, 12, 2008 11:30 AM
McCain for President
Of Mexico! That is who he is representing, not U.S. citizens. I will not vote for anyone unwilling to uphold the rule of law. We won't have a country if he gets his way.
sid writes: Saturday, January, 12, 2008 10:30 AM
B2slim: Skeletons?????
I don't think so. If so - what are they? You apparently are in the "know".....be bold......save the country from John McCains ability to be direct and honest....tell us all why we should support first and foremost a "panderer"; any "panderer"; over an someone who like it or not tells the truth. I'm waiting....give it to us - we can take it.
cordpt writes: Saturday, January, 12, 2008 8:15 AM
Stop going negative McCain
I'll never vote for a candidate who bashes McCain - and, like me, many other conservatives.

McCain is not my favorite and I had major disagreements with some of his positions in the past.

But I campaigned with McCain. I have been knocking doors with John McCain for the 86 congressional elections during the Reagan era. Where were some of these other guys back in that time?

I admire John McCain's integrity and commitment to this country. I still don't know if I'll vote for him in the primaries, but I'd be proud to have John McCain as the leader of this Great Country.
Bobber writes: Saturday, January, 12, 2008 8:00 AM
Fred Thompson Should Apologize
Ladies and Gentlemen I would kindly suggest that Mr Fred Thompson should most strongly consider apologizing to the Republican party. He's a good man with some great policies but what gall and what nerve to not being pressured to be away from his family, O about two years before the election to get in there and show that he had the fire in the belly! Nope, Fred shouldn't have been concerned about uprooting his family and dragging them around the country as I say about two years before the election for remember he should have been out there showing the world how strongly he felt about family values.

His wife and children could have stayed home. Im sure they would have eventually understood! Further more where was Fred with his TV and radio ads on the air long long time before anyone of the general public could care less about what Presidential candidates had to say! Didn't he know that his fellow Republicans needed him to set an example of what a true fisco conservative should be like by wasting how many untold millions of dollars in the process? Waste? Did I say waste? Hey isn't that the thing which is more commonly practised among the democrats?
MWoods86 writes: Saturday, January, 12, 2008 7:33 AM
Do you want to win in November? McCain
I am afraid that Republicans are going to win the battle and lose the war. Romney and Thompson do not have the slightest chance to win the general election. Of the other three who have the potential, McCain is the best overall choice for Republicans. Get over your emotional reaction to immigration and use your head! Do you honestly believe that this country is ever going to round up 12 million people and ship them out? Please - start thinking instead of reacting. I did not like McCain-Kennedy, but something like that with secure borders first is reasonable and the absolute best you are ever going to get in this closely divided nation. Go for the win in November - support McCain!
B2slim writes: Saturday, January, 12, 2008 1:52 AM
Hillary will wipe the floor with McCain
there is NOT a chance that McCain can
beat Hillary:

SHE IS SO READY for McCain, that is why the
MSM is shoving McCain down our throats:

HIS closet is so full of skeletons:
she will win against McCain by a landslide
she will NOT pander to his war hero status
she is ruthless and so is SOROS her backer:

McCain will go down in flames against Hillary
or Obama
B2slim writes: Saturday, January, 12, 2008 1:47 AM
NO PRO ILLEGALS PRESIDENT NEEDED
thank McCain for his service: and other sentiments about his war hero status:

HOWEVER: never did McCain champion VETS needs or benfits in all of his years in the Senate
HE NEVER TRIED TO SHOVE MORE VETS benefits down our throats like he tried to shove
that Amnesty bill down our throats:

WHICH SAYS TO ME:

MCCain is more about representing illegals
than representing VETS or US citizens:

WHICH SIDE OF THE FENCE IS HE ON ?
sans pareil writes: Saturday, January, 12, 2008 1:24 AM
None Of The Above
Is Not An Option In A Primary Election.

Your Vote Is Your Voice
Struggling Though It Is
To Be Heard In The Chaos
That Is The Process

W/O=
sans pareil writes: Saturday, January, 12, 2008 1:10 AM
Linda
Show Up All The Time
Vote Your Congressional Seats At Least

Cast a Protest Vote In Presidential Race -
(write-in your guys name, your own name, or just leave it blank)

**What do you suppose the media would do or say if ballots started showing more votes for their Congressional Seats & Left their Vote for Senate or President blank as a message?

You Don't Participate
You Can't Complain
Not Having A Reason To Complain - Priceless

Vote Smart
Vote Fred Thompson

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sans pareil writes: Saturday, January, 12, 2008 12:53 AM
On The Surge
FRED THOMPSON: "I would do essentially what the president's doing. I know it's not popular right now, but I think we have to look down the road and consider the consequences of where we are.
We're the leader of the free world whether we like it or not."


In Answer to "What would you do now in Iraq?"
As Asked By Chris Wallace -
Fox News Sunday
March 11, 2007

W/O=




Linda writes: Saturday, January, 12, 2008 12:49 AM
McCain
As someone who has been a Republican all of my life and who has voted Republican in every presidential election, I am seriously considering being a "no show" if McCain gets our nomination. He is no conservative and he is probably only a Republican because he entered politics in Arizona when it was strongly Republican. He has not been a good team player. What makes some of you guys think he would appoint the kind of judges that conservatives want? Remember he was was the one who got the gang of 14 together when we were about to pass a rule that judges could not be filabustered but had to have an up or down vote. He threw many conservative nominees to the Courts of Appeal under the bus on that one. Think about it - he is NOT one of us and he is definitely not a Reagan Republican.
McTex writes: Friday, January, 11, 2008 11:13 PM
To Con4fred
If what you say about McCain is true (and it's obviously a lie) then why is your beloved Fred such close friends with McCain?

Hmmm?

McCain does not support amnesty. In fact the only Republican I am aware of that actively supported amnesty was Ronald Reagan.

The reason that the last two very conservative judges received senate approval is because of John McCain and his ability to get moderate democrats to see reason. If you like Alito and Roberts then send John McCain a huge thank you.

If you like the success of the surge then send Senator McCain a huge thank you.

If you continue to accuse the only war hero running for president in 50 years of being a liberal while dismissing all of the conservative votes and accomplishments that he has made in the last 24 years then I say you are not a true conservative but a RINO who will do anything and say any lie in order to destroy a great man just because, at the end of the day, you are likely a Mexican hating racist puke.

McCain was greatly admired by Reagan and is endorsed by Nancy. I am not asking for you to vote for him. All of the candidates are excellent, with the exception of Romney and Paul. I am just demanding that you quit spreading your liberal propaganda about a man who has more integrity in his tortured right arm then you could ever dream of having.
gf writes: Friday, January, 11, 2008 10:02 PM
McCain or Hillary,
what difference will it make?
elvis writes: Friday, January, 11, 2008 8:48 PM
stupid?
well....anyone who thinks romney is stupid..has a pumpkin for a head! when all you loud mouth gord-heads accomplish what he has accomplished in his life..then you have some authority to judge what is smart and what isnt! this whole campaign has been double standards and you folks who dont complain about fred rocking mike in the last debate..are big hypocrits! fred said essentially what mitt has said in his ads! or are you listening..probably not! but did anyone complain about fred "going negative" well...??!
i enjoyed fred kicking mikes **s! in a sense,
fred took care of mike and john! good!if romney takes MI..and fred surprises in s. carolina, then where does huckleberry,mc nut go? i noticed on many occasions, that fred and mitt were very cordial during the breaks during the debates that fred was in....hmmmmm??! interesting!what happened to duncan? i know where m&j can go...MEXICO ! THERE HAVE BEEN 5 POLICEMEN MURDERED IN AZ. BY ILLEGALS..MAYBE JOHN BETTER MOVE!?
elvis
Con4fred writes: Friday, January, 11, 2008 8:21 PM
McCain is over
McCain does not need the help of the other candidates to make him look unelectable. He shoots himself in the foot enough on his own, so everyone can ignore him in debates. Don't beleive me, look at his record of siding with the Dems on critical issues. Amnesty and GW are just two examples.

If I want a real Conservative running this country I will vote for Fred. And I intend to do just that!
LibertyJaw writes: Friday, January, 11, 2008 8:03 PM
Is this blog about McCain's cake walk?
why are all all mitt and hugh baters continuing that discussion here? why has every townhall blog become a romney, hugh and mormon bash, even when the topic is McCain's Cake Walk?
Joe writes: Friday, January, 11, 2008 7:30 PM
Mitt, stop crying like a little girl!
I seriously think we need to start sending all the presidential candidates little bottles of Johnson and Johnson’s baby shampoo. Because if there are any more tears on the campaign trail, Election 2008 is going to turn into Lifetime Television. We’ve got Hillary moaning in New Hampshire about how hard it is to be her and then running to Nevada to hold hands with illegal alien women, and now Mitt Romney is choking up again. (He pulled a Hillary before Hillary did on Meet The Press last month.)

http://michellemalkin.com/2008/01/11/romney-chokes-up-again /
richard_223 writes: Friday, January, 11, 2008 6:41 PM
Bring Us Together
Steve in Corona - the Zeitgeist is against polarization this year, the negativity is turning off voters - look how much Hugh has harmed Mitt's cause, plus Mitt's own ads.

I think that is also a big part of the appeal of both Huck and Obama.
richard_223 writes: Friday, January, 11, 2008 6:38 PM
Red State, Blue State
Jay - no Republican in modern times has won in November without winning SC, that's why it is so important. As I have been asking for again and again, if Mitt can't compete in the South, how can he hope to win in November. It can't be done.
richard_223 writes: Friday, January, 11, 2008 6:32 PM
Kos Kids on the Kampaign
And/so

Ironic that Mitt's survival on the primary trail comes down to Daily Kos.

Isn't Marcos,the founder of Kos, the guy who famously wrote 'Screm them' about the US contractors killed and hung from a bridge by the insurgents in Iraq?
richard_223 writes: Friday, January, 11, 2008 6:30 PM
Yikes
LiberyJaw, Last night Mitt admitted on Hannity and Colms he did not even see the light about Reagan's conservatism until Reagan's funeral!

BigSky - Name calling does not an argument make.

Yes, I replied to you on my military service,go back and reread that thread.
lexonex writes: Friday, January, 11, 2008 5:27 PM
Tom Monaghan for ROMNEY....

Domino’s Pizza founder and Catholic philanthropist Tom Monaghan has endorsed Republican Mitt Romney for president.

In a release from the Romney campaign, Monaghan praised Romney as a proven leader in business, the Olympics and politics. Monaghan in 1998 sold his majority interest in Domino’s Pizza to Bain Capital, a Boston investment fund that Romney founded.

“As someone who values the importance of faith in one’s life, I recognize in Mitt his deep religious convictions which will serve him well in facing the critical moral issues facing our society,” the release quotes Monaghan. “I believe he will stand firm on the pro-life issues and for the traditional family values that our country was founded on and which are so critical to the nation.”

Romney’s Mormon faith was an issue leading up to the Iowa caucus, and he delivered a speech in early December addressing concerns by some religious conservatives about his faith.

Monaghan, who once owned the Detroit Tigers, left Domino’s to create the Ave Maria Institute, which later became Ave Maria College, a Catholic liberal arts institution. The college became Ave Maria University in Florida, where he is chancellor.
BIGSKYER writes: Friday, January, 11, 2008 5:20 PM
Richard (the pussycat hearted) 223!
richard_223 writes:

Is this the same richard a couple of days ago basning Mitt Romney for his lack of Military Experience? Really? Did you answer my question Richard? Were you in the Military, if so when?

After reading your lastest Mitt Bashing rant, I have ccme to the conclusion that instead of roaring like Richard the Lion Hearted as you try to make yourself out to be with your incessant Mitt hatred, you are nothing but a meowing pussycat hiding behind the firewall of the internet and your name and that of Townhall.

You gloat as if it was you alone who is responsible for Mitt's untimely demise, but don't pat yourself on the back too soon schmuck, as quite possibly Mitt will be back to haunt the likes of you and your other right wing extremist and clever cohorts with small brains and big mouths. But if he doesn't, well enjoy yourself, and rest in the knowledge that if he could, he would mop the floor with you both mentally and phyisically, provided he could catch you! Oops, I forgot, Mitt is too much of a gentleman and human being to stoop to contending with right wing stooge like you!

LibertyJaw writes: Friday, January, 11, 2008 4:49 PM
Leaving the dirty work to Mitt . . .
Mitt has been the only one, until last night, fighting for Reagan conservatism. Fred was great last night, but the fact that he joined McCain and Huckabee and the MSM in the Romney crucifixion (remember the NH ABC Debate) and refused to go after McCain last night shows that he's both naive and not in it just for the "good of the country" despite his claims to the contrary. Last night, he said this election is about the heart and soul of the Republican Party, but he has cowardly sat back and helped McCain and Huckabee assault it both by giving them a pass and by joining them in their collective assault on Mitt (recall again the first NH debate that killed Mitt). You can't help kill the messenger and expect to save the message Fred. McCain, Huckabe and the MSM have all been playing you like a cheap violin. I love you Fred, but you'd better recognize who your friends in the Reagan coalition are before you are the only dottering old man in the debate and you are getting gang raped along with the rest of the Reagan conservatives out here.
lexonex writes: Friday, January, 11, 2008 4:18 PM
I got your back Mitt...I'll be there....

Dear Call At Home Team,

Thank you so much for dedicating time and energy to making calls in support of Governor Romney. The work you are doing, through the Call at Home program, made the difference in closing the gap in New Hampshire!

The results were astounding and are responsible for making this innovative program all the rage as we move into Michigan poised for victory. 84,000 calls were made in just over 9 hours!

Now, Michigan is a much larger state than New Hampshire, the primary is just a few days away on Tuesday, January 15, and the stakes are high … we need more callers than ever before. Please join us to make calls at the following times:

• Saturday, January 12, 3pm – 8:30pm - EST
• Sunday, January 13, 3pm – 8pm - EST
• Monday, January 14, 3pm – 8:30pm - EST

Reminder you can ONLY make calls during these calling hours. No calls can be made outside of those hours as the Call at Home program is shut off until then.
Joe writes: Friday, January, 11, 2008 4:00 PM
SEEHAWK
I tell you what, if John McCain, or Fred Thompson, or Mitt Romney is the nominee, I will volunteer and give my best eforts for any of them. Because this election is too important to lose to the Dems.

I doubt Pasadena Phil will do that. He wants to start a third party.
Jorge writes: Friday, January, 11, 2008 3:49 PM
Flirting With Revelation
"McCain won Independents in NH, Mitt won the mainstream GOP by a large margin. On the other hand, I personally know Democrats who would willingly vote for McCain."

One falsehood, one mis-apprehended truth.

Falsehood:

Mitt did not win the GOP by a large margin in NH. IIRC, it was close to even.

Mis-apprehended truth:

Yes, there are many democrats who would vote for McCain against either Hillary Rodham or Barack Hussein in the general.

That's one of McCain's *strengths*.

Ability to alienate everyone not in some ideologically pure subgroup is not an attribute in politics. (See Romney, Mittens).

+ + +

edubuys writes: Friday, January, 11, 2008 3:42 PM
Where is the Sheriffe Giulliane
Ok, if you is not easy to understand all the details of the elections, between Democrats and Republicans, you can imagine how it is for us, Brazilians?
The question that seems difficult to answer:-where is the Sheriffe Giulliane? You do not want more Rudy? What he did? Or rather, what he has not done?
I am a big city, Rio de Janeiro, and dreaming with a mayor as courageous and competent as Rudy. And, it seems, that it could be good, with its strong pulse, for a whole nation. Or not?
Eduardo Buys Blog from the Retail / Retail Blog, the Rio de Janeiro - Brazil
http://Www.varejototal.zip.net
Ps: I have read your book Blog, and liked very much. See http://www.varejototal.zip.net
Hector Berlioz writes: Friday, January, 11, 2008 3:32 PM
and/butt/so
Hugh has already talked about the Kos plan. McCain won Independents in NH, Mitt won the mainstream GOP by a large margin. On the other hand, I personally know Democrats who would willingly vote for McCain.
And/but/so writes: Friday, January, 11, 2008 3:21 PM
Richard_223
3D Chess sounds fun but complicated. I think you need to go to Cranbrook/Harvard to understand that game....

Cheer up! Word on the street is the KosKids are going to vote Mitt in Michigan, just to keep the race unsettled (and also cause they know J Mac will school Hill/Obama in the fall). So Mitt may win MI on the strength of DEMOCRATS voting for him. While I want J Mac to win MI, it will be high comedy hearing Hugh spin the victory of Flip Romney when hid support is from Democrats; not Repub;licans, not even independents, but angry sneaky Dems!

My prediction: Hugh will be crowing about how this proves Mitt can "win over" Democrats, and he'll pretend the whole Kos thing never happened.
Jay writes: Friday, January, 11, 2008 3:09 PM
Go Mitt Romney!
Why won't FOX focus on Michigan instead of South Carolina. It's more important in delegates (30 vs 24) and comes earlier to.

Are they only ignoring it because Romney is in the lead there?...and to downplay him as not being a front runner?

He has the most votes AND delegates to date. He won more delegates for Wyoming than McCain did for NH. Did fox or any media tell this story? NO!

Romney is the most honest and best leader this country will get to have as president in a long time. He is conservative and family oriented like no other candidate.

Go Romney!
Steve_in_Corona writes: Friday, January, 11, 2008 3:09 PM
To Damien
you wrote: Challenging an opponent's record in an ad is fair game.
---------------------------
I understand and agree - but that is not the point. Romney's negative ads - for whatever reason had a BACKLASH against the candidate. The focus groups showed this repeatedly.

Having cheerleaders like Hugh continually argue that the ads were not 'attacks' did not carry weight with the electorate in either Iowa or New Hampshire.

I doubt we fully appreciate just how much Romney put his face in the face of voters in Iowa and New Hampshire - all those millions in what are inexpensive markets - so again, people are going to say "not another Romney attack ad when I am trying to watch TV" - but doing so in a debate - by Romney or anyone else, is different.
sans pareil writes: Friday, January, 11, 2008 2:57 PM
For My Vote
My Next President Must -
Be A President Ready To Hit The Ground Running with Clear, Concise, Workable Plans for a great many trouble areas threatening to vex our way of life in this country.
One that knows the concerns of the average Joe!
One that sees some of the issues blipping away on the Citizen Voters radar screens include...

Security
National & Domestic Security are Co-dependent concerns. Without one we can not have the other. I Will Give My Vote To The President Who Will Enforce Border Law & Secure Our Southern Border First! Build A Fence Soon!! Talk about it later.

Thompson in '08

W/O=
Damien writes: Friday, January, 11, 2008 2:52 PM
Romney took on Huckabee in a debate
Steve_in_Corona,

Mitt just challenged Huckabee on Sunday's forum and Huckabee would not answer Mitt's question regarding his tax increases three times. McCain and Huckabee had been double-teaming Romney in the press and when he was sitting right between them on Sunday they never went after him.

All candidates must be able to defend his/her record. Challenging an opponent's record in an ad is fair game. The debates are a great forum to clear up misconceptions about records which I believe Romney has done. Huckabee seems to answer every question with a joke or a witty one-liner. It's getting old. He's a funny guy but these are serious times.

cottoneyed writes: Friday, January, 11, 2008 2:52 PM
Once again, yesterday,
John(F...nnnn...)Kerry, as he was announcing his endorsement of Osama, he used "swift boat" as a pejorative. It cannot be used as one until John( i served in Vietnam)Kerry or any of the rest of you liberals can prove that anything the swifties said was untrue. If you can, $1,000,000 US awaits you. How about you, "patriotic liberal", or you "religiouslib", or you "briggsy", or you "john(watch the video)konop", or any other lefty loonies out there, T. Boone Pickens PH:1-214-265-4165 has a cool 1m for each statement you can prove false. T. Boone, on national TV challenged Kerry on Nov. 30th, so far, no response. It's the weekend libs, 1m buys ya' quite a few bong hits, don't it? T. Boone and the rest of us wait for your response. That phone # again is 1-214-265-4165.
THE SWIFTIES WERE RIGHT!!! JOHN KERRY'S A FRAUD.
cottoneyed writes: Friday, January, 11, 2008 2:27 PM
I was very impress
with Rudy's answer concerning Israel and the broader issue of the Middle East, last night. The US has a special relationship with them, which goes well beyond being an ally. This bond is Biblical. President Bush's comments yesterday, showed that he has lost sight of this. The most compelling argument for the Jewish State is a Biblical one. Equally, the most compelling argument against an Arab state is a Biblical one. I use the description "Arab" instead of "Palestinian" on purpose. The word "Palestinian" has no value as a description of a people or nation. Rudy's, response to this issue, last night, was far better, than the statement issued by the President, earlier in the day. This sadden me, because, all he need do is open his Bible, and the blueprint is right there. Ultimately, this is what will happen. Every "jot and tittle".
Go Rudy!!
KGK writes: Friday, January, 11, 2008 2:15 PM
Killing each other!
The GOP loves to eat its own and kill off our guys before even 48 other states have a chance to vote. Stop the baloney. Republicans must grow up and wait till our own voters speak, not Independents, who the MSM wants or Democrats desire. I do think Mitt is on the downswing not as Hugh desires, RISING. But, why push him out till after Feb.5? Fred did well last night but will he continue to win states? We will have to wait and see if he can even win SC. As for McCain, his stances do not give many Pubs confidence that he will be what he says he will be on the campaign now! His past stuff has hurt Republicans and some will not forgive that. Huck is really a populist who is trying to expand the Big Tent but at the same time appears more like Obama than even poor old Bob Dole! And the last time we nominated a Senator, we got crushed. In Nov., the MSM will dis any of our guys. But one thing is clear , one of our guys will have to win a Blue state or two because the Dems will go after some of those small Red State and Ohio and might even win them. That will bring us all back to the most electible, whoever after Feb. 5 that will be!
SEEHAWK writes: Friday, January, 11, 2008 2:09 PM
Boomshack
Don't worry about the direction Kos send his Kids in. The Bible says "The wicked digs pits to trap others and fall into them,themselves." :-)
Hector Berlioz writes: Friday, January, 11, 2008 2:07 PM
KsReaganite
I'll take Rudy over McJerk any day.
Qweenmumof7 writes: Friday, January, 11, 2008 2:05 PM
Fred took out Hucks kneecaps
and it's about darn time. I've said it once, and I'll say it again. If huckaberry is anywhere near the nomination, I will either vote 3rd party or sit home eating popcorn. I refuse to vote for such a low life as Huckabee. Period.

Now Fred... He showed me last night what i've known all along. Yet i wonder if he cut a deal with Romney, who did not attack last night, that Fred will start taking the johnmike team out.

Thompson/Romney or Romney/Thompson. either way, it's a WINNER.
Nathan Arizona writes: Friday, January, 11, 2008 2:05 PM
How far we've come!
From Reagan's 11th commandment to Romney supporters whining that the other candidates aren't going negative enough! Anger is the stage after denial, right?

Romney Rising!

Remember when the War on Terror was the most important issue?

Now, apparently, core conservative principles are opposition campaign finance reform, denial of global warming, and saying exactly the right thing on immigration. Sorry, I missed that memo. I still think the GWOT is the most important issue. Continuing it requires most of all victory over the Democrats in November, & McCain, for all his flaws, looks like the best (if not the only) bet for that.
SEEHAWK writes: Friday, January, 11, 2008 2:04 PM
Joe
I am a friend (except I disagree with you a lot on just about everything!)...so why don't you put all your time and energy into helping McCain??? Call his headquarters and volunteer,as a "McCainiack"...and I am serious.
fatherinoklahoma writes: Friday, January, 11, 2008 2:03 PM
Huck has decided - he is running for VP
- but McCain will dump him long before the convention. The MSM would kill Huck in a general election. He has too much baggage.
McCain likes Huck now because Huck makes McCain look conservative. In a general election, Huck would be a political liability.
KsReaganite writes: Friday, January, 11, 2008 1:56 PM
Ruffini is
suddenly frightened about his icon Rudy and thus going after McCain, someone who was their buddy until he become strong nationally. Let's see between McCain and Rudy who is more conservative:

One of them is pro life, pro gun, a personal war hero, pro defense.

The other one is pro-taxpaeyer funded abortion, pro gun control, and has never served a day in the military.

Take your pick.
inchdeep writes: Friday, January, 11, 2008 1:51 PM
The McCain Record
Captain Queeg is in Kennedy's very spacious back pocket. Yes let's elect Kennedy's lap dog

From Mark Levin on NRO.

McCain-Feingold — the most brazen frontal assault on political speech since Buckley v. Valeo.

McCain-Kennedy — the most far-reaching amnesty program in American history.

McCain-Lieberman — the most onerous and intrusive attack on American industry — through reporting, regulating, and taxing authority of greenhouse gases — in American history.

McCain-Kennedy-Edwards — the biggest boon to the trial bar since the tobacco settlement, under the rubric of a patients’ bill of rights.

McCain-Reimportantion of Drugs — a significant blow to pharmaceutical research and development, not to mention consumer safety (hey Rudy, pay attention, see link).
richard_223 writes: Friday, January, 11, 2008 1:44 PM
Cuff 'Em and Stuff 'Em
Here's what Hugh's last election marvel, Arnold is up to:

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger made it official Thursday – he really does intend to open the prison gates next fiscal year to 22,159 lower-risk inmates and enact new parole policies that could result in some 6,249 fewer reincarcerations the year after that.

But if the day of reckoning is at hand for California's tough sentencing policies, somebody forgot to tell the Republicans.

Some were restrained and some were bombastic, but all were definitive: Letting prisoners out in the final 20 months of their term, even if they're low-risk, as the governor is proposing, is about the worst way imaginable to fix the state's $14 billion budget deficit.

Assemblyman Todd Spitzer, R-Orange, the GOP point man on corrections, said the proposal amounts to a sucker punch to Republicans who last year supported Assembly Bill 900, the $7.9 billion prison expansion and rehabilitation plan.

"It's a betrayal," Spitzer said. "AB 900 promised us no early releases, and that's why Republicans voted overwhelmingly for it. Now, some people will be doing less time if they're sentenced to prison than if they're sentenced to county jail."

Schwarzenegger, Spitzer said, "reneged on a promise."

Lovely, CA overrun with convicts turned loose by a GOP Governor. Folks, you can't make this stuff up!
Boomshak writes: Friday, January, 11, 2008 1:43 PM
DailyKos says... VOTE ROMNEY!?
You would THINK that Michigan being an OPEN Primary, Demicrats would want to cause mischief and, once again as in NH, vote for McCain.

Not so fast.

DailyKos is actually ENCOURAGING DEMOCRAT ACTIVISTS TO CROSS-OVER AND VOTE ROMNEY!

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/1/10/2713/87225/55/43420 6

Why? Well, Kos thinking is actually quite lucid on the matter. He wants to keep as many Republicans in the Republican Race as long as he can so we can beat each other up and spend all our money on negative ads.

If Romney loses MI, Kos summizes, there are fewer and poorer Republicans left to fight and McCain might sweep both MI and SC.

Lol, so while we imagined the "open" MI primary might hurt Romney, it may actually give him the victory :)
Thaale writes: Friday, January, 11, 2008 1:42 PM
ColoradoConservative, Mitt has burned...
...some Republican bridges. Fairly or not, when anything funky happens, someone usually points to Mitt. The McCain campaign believes (or claims it believes) that Mitt push-polled himself and tried to make it look like McCain smearing Mitt. I have no idea what the truth is, but the important part is that if McCain operatives, backers, and voters credit the story, it makes it difficult for Romney to ever gain their support (if it came down to Rudy vs. Mitt, which way would former McCainiacs be likely to lean?)

Another example is the story that went around about Fred right before the Iowa caucuses that he was about to drop out and endorse McCain. The slow-to-anger Fred was apparently so outraged by this false rumor that it has energized him ever since. Unlike the loose-cannon McCain’s campaign, neither Fred nor his people have publicly blamed Mitt for starting it – but I’ve read several online accounts saying that Fred’s campaign has told reporters privately that they’re convinced it was Mitt’s people.

True? Fair? I have no idea. But the concept is out there. Couple it with the acknowledged negatives – and Mitt has publicly gone negative more than everyone else – and you have a situation where Mitt isn’t exactly Mr. Popularity among his fellow aspirants.

But politics make for strange bedfellows. If Mitt and one of his rivals can help each other out, no one’s going to be stubborn about maintaining an old unprofitable feud (okay, maybe McCain). It’s easy to envision future scenarios where Mitt and Rudy combine to stop Huck or McCain, or Mitt and Fred join forces, etc.
Jim Addison writes: Friday, January, 11, 2008 1:37 PM
Drinking Hugh's Kool-Aid too?
"And, truth be told, the other campaigns’ visceral dislike of Mitt Romney is blinding them to the need for a strong voice to articulate the conservative base’s deep distrust of McCain."


So, if not for this dislike (which couldn't possibly have anything to do with the stuff the Romney campaign is and has been emailing about everyone else, could it?), they would no longer be "blinded" and would . . . WHAT?? Withdraw in Mitt's favor?

Puh-leeze! Romney has burnt through more money for less effect than almost the rest of the field combined. His campaign has been singularly ineffective, and now it's the fault of the other candidates for not "seeing the light" and joining his magical aura?

The longer this goes on, the less likely I have become to vote for Romney. Now, on the very eve of our SC primary, after spending some $3 million on television ads here beginning in the spring, he pulls out of the state? Thanks, but no thanks.
Hector Berlioz writes: Friday, January, 11, 2008 1:36 PM
Hahaha...
So Romney governed the same state Kerry was occupying...so he's "just another Massachussetts liberal".

Not only is Huckabee from the same state as Bill Clinton, not only are they from the same town, not only did they govern the same state, but Huckabee was actually MORE liberal on fiscal issues than Bill Clinton!

Mitt Romney was born in Michigan. The Republican party in Massachusetts drafted him to run for governor after his success with the Olympics.
Steve_in_Corona writes: Friday, January, 11, 2008 1:35 PM
It is a DEBATE people
Damien, since you asked it in multiple threads, I will answer in multiple threads

People, it is one thing for Thompson to go after Huck in a DEBATE - it is another thing for the multi-millionaire to invade your living room for several weeks with negative ads of people you may not be voting for but certainly do not find offensive (11th Commandment and all).

And my point about the Ron Paul insult by Romney is it is a cheap shot that is also meaningless. It is like Romney is afraid to go after the "big boys" so he picks on the guy nobody likes anyway.

Thompson HAS to debate Huck hard, since South Carolina is his firewall and Huck is handing Thompson his lunch right now in the polls.
richard_223 writes: Friday, January, 11, 2008 1:31 PM
You Could Take Up 3 D Chess
I am of mixed feelings about MI. If Mitt wins, Hugh will go wild and we will likely never hear the end of it.

If Mitt loses he will likely withdraw, which will end all the fun we have been having around here. I will have to, like, you know, get a life or find a new hobby. Its been great fun though.
GenXDad writes: Friday, January, 11, 2008 1:27 PM
The only way to stop McCain
If you want to stop McCain (I don't, I like him) is for Mitt Romney to drop out.

Mitt can't get the nomination. The more voters see him, the less they like him. Hey, kind of like John Kerry, another boring empty suit from Massachusetts!

If you really think McCain is a disaster, dump Romney and let the voters find an anti-McCain between Rudy, Thompson and Huckabee. Mitt will only siphon off conservative votes on his way to also-ran status and a McCain nomination.
sans pareil writes: Friday, January, 11, 2008 1:27 PM
OUCH
Now I can't see a president doing anything!!!!
He Just Stuck Another Stick In My Eye!!!

W/O=
sans pareil writes: Friday, January, 11, 2008 1:24 PM
Jim from 'Zona
"If McCain is the nominee, everyone will have the choice to vote for him...Remember everyone, "It's the Supreme Court, stupid.""

?? Maybe you should think about what you preach.
It Certainly Is About "the Supreme Court" so Don't Be Stupid!!
Are You that sure McCain won't compromise with the Dems on SCOTUS appointments?
I've heard talk in the recent past ( Remember Justice O'Connor's retirement?) of 'maintaining the make-up of the Supreme Court'. The Dems were pretty much demanding a woman succeed her!!
I can clearly see a president McCain negotiating away the Constitutional Right To Appoint Justices.

Can You At Least Assure Me With ANY certainty that "Angry John" McCain would NOT attempt to appoint a SCOTUS or two (three?) that share his First Amendment views?
As well documented (McCain/Feingold) as we know they are. I Wish I could support an American war hero BUT for me it is too much of a risk.

FULL DISCLOSURE - Fred voted FOR the McCain/Feingold Bill while a serving Senator. But in this year of 'change' I think we can believe it when he said he made "a mistake" in doing so.

My brain is telling me Fred Thompson WOULD, without question, Nominate & Fight For if necessary, Strict Constructionist Judges. I can live with that choice.

Vote For Constitutional Justice
Vote For Fred Thompson

W/O=
Damien writes: Friday, January, 11, 2008 1:21 PM
Where's is the anger towards Thompson?
Where's the anger towards Thompson?
I love the fact that Thompson went after Huckabee. What Thompson said about Huckabee was far more attack-like than anything Romney has said. I am just wondering why no one has called Thompson dirty like they did when Romney challenged Huck's record.

Had Romney said what Thompson said last night the press and McCain would have called him "dirty", "desperate", "mean", etc. Yet, I have heard nothing of the sort. A double standard? An obvious agenda?

At this point I would be in favor of a Romney/Thompson ticket.
richard_223 writes: Friday, January, 11, 2008 1:13 PM
Say It Ain't So
Pat wrote:'And, truth be told, the other campaigns’ visceral dislike of Mitt Romney is blinding them to the need for a strong voice to articulate the conservative base’s deep distrust of McCain.'

And where is that dislike toward Mitt manifested? Does Huck have a radio show that constantly derides Mitt? Does McCain have a blog that mocks his appearance? Does Fred have a radio show that makes politics of Mrs. Romney's illness?

Of course not.

But in Hugh, Mitt has all of the above.

So there is a good reason the other don't like Mitt. And so far the voters don't like Mitt either.
Thaale writes: Friday, January, 11, 2008 1:10 PM
Going negative backfired on Mitt in NH
After the New Hampshire exit polls revealed that voters were very turned off by Mitt’s negative advertising in New Hampshire, no one wants to sabotage his own campaign in the same way in SC or elsewhere. I’m sure there were moments when Rudy or Mitt wanted to tear into McCain, but held back for fear of not seeming like a nice guy (e.g., Huckabee).

What’s interesting is that Fred can be quite rough with Huck and people seem to lap it up. For whatever reason, people nod their heads in agreement when he goes on the offensive. When Mitt or Rudy attack, people sympathize with the target.

Hillary Clinton is likely to be the Democrat nominee, and she can’t be allowed free rein in the debates and the campaign. The GOP needs a candidate who can firmly contradict her when she’s wrong without seeming like a bully or a sexist. Such a possible candidate may not exist, but if he does, it’s probably Fred or Huck. If Republican voters were turned off by Mitt’s attacks on McCain, then I have to believe that the electorate in general (which includes a lot more touch-feely types and prickly man-haters than the GOP primary voter group) would really react poorly to Mitt going after a woman, as necessary as it will be for any GOP candidate to take any Dem on head to head.

But back to the primary, one other problem is that the GOP field is so large, everyone is taking the tack of “Let George do it.” They’re each hoping that even if it's not Mitt, then somebody will really tear into McCain, ideally hurting both the target and the guy who went negative.

The Dem field is much simpler, and harder for Hillary and Obama to fool themselves about. If Obama doesn’t think Edwards will do the dirty work on Hillary, he knows he needs to do it himself. But each GOP candidate has four other hopes. Each can keep persuading himself that even if Mitt won’t take the risk of tearing into McCain, maybe Paul will. Or Rudy. Hope keeps springing eternal – and McCain keeps not being challenged.
ColoradoConservative writes: Friday, January, 11, 2008 1:05 PM
Why is Romney so disliked?
Why do the other candidates and their staffs unanimously dislike Romney? I'm sure that Hugh can artfully make an argument regarding this, but the major point is that if even his fellow Republicans dislike him, what chance does he have in the general election where it is imperative to attract independents? None.
CK MacLeod writes: Friday, January, 11, 2008 1:03 PM
Rudy-Huck
...started to look like a dream ticket to Rudy fans months ago, back when Huck was wowing people at debates but had not yet caught fire (or grabbed the early momentum that should have gone to Thompson, but that's another story). Since Rudy's flaws, I think, have more to do with what a vote for him symbolizes than with a real lack of trust that he would actually govern conservatively, even and especially on social issues, and since the problems with Huck are inexperience and weak understanding of security issues and suspicions about his fiscal policies, the two complement each other more than just regionally.

It wouldn't work with Rudy at the bottom of the ticket, and Huck probably wouldn't pick him if he could. Immigration might seem a weakness, but they're both already committed to something far to the right of Bush-McCain-Kennedy, and would obviously going to be far preferable from the right on the issue.

Unfortunately, it's hard to see such a unity ticket emerging except out of an indecisive primary result, perhaps with Rudy and Huck combining for a majority or large enough plurality of the delegates to force other candidates to give in, with the grand compromise being confirmed at the convention.

It really would be a re-uniting of the Reagan coalition. The only thing more ideal might be someone like McCain or Thompson at the top of the ticket, with a young, up-and-coming Democrat-constituency attacking candidate at the bottom (Palin or Steele). Such a combination probably wouldn't pass the tokenism smell test, however.

In all likelihood, we're going to have to settle, and try to win, with something a lot less than ideal.
Hector Berlioz writes: Friday, January, 11, 2008 1:02 PM
PaulW
PaulW, maybe you should respect Hugh more for having friends who disagree with him.

In this instance I think Barnett's assessment is a little overpraising. I thought Mitt did terrible, but Huckabee was really smacked by Thompson and he couldn't get up again...(answer on Iran was extremely pandering), except for the very excellent answer on religion. He had a good streak in slipping out of the situations, but if anyone paid attention, it was too transparent.
JA writes: Friday, January, 11, 2008 1:02 PM
A good read
"Why does McCain get a pass on stifling the pro-life message in the service of suppressing free speech … for the benefit of pro-abortion Democrats?" Andrew McCarthy, National Review
article.nationalreview.com/?q=YmVhYjdlYzJjNzI0NGE2MjRlYTNlMDc0ZDlkZGVhNTg=
Hector Berlioz writes: Friday, January, 11, 2008 12:58 PM
Joe''''''''''McCain
Joe, you're just one of those overreacting Huckabee supporters. Time to drink more caffeine.

Matt just posted the video and opined that it wasn't as bad as you made it out.

About Fred Thompson:
I'd forgotten about his McCain friendship. if he wants my vote, he needs to smack McCain like he did Huckabee. Time to drink some Red Bull, Fred....your country is about to be strangled by one of your best friends.
Thaale writes: Friday, January, 11, 2008 12:52 PM
Jim, I don't think Romney is stupid
But some bad decisions and some unlucky breaks have resulted in him having a spectacularly bad sense of timing all throughout this race.

An example is New Hampshire. Taking a cue from Obama’s win and rhetoric, Mitt both tried to position himself as he GOP’s deliverer of the (popular in Iowa) Obama “change” message and as the GOP candidate who could beat Barack. But then Hillary unexpectedly upset Obama in NH, and Romney’s hard new stance as the anti-Obama was suddenly irrelevant. The seemingly worthless ground he had tacitly conceded to Rudy, Huck, and McCain (as being viable against Hillary but less so against Barack) suddenly became valuable real estate he had lost.
PaulW writes: Friday, January, 11, 2008 12:50 PM
Look What Hugh's Friend said!
Long ago now, followers of Hugh's blog entries have realized that his pro-Mitt propaganda has gone from the hopeful stage to the deeply personal stage.
Hugh bashes Huckabee in his post debate piece while saying Romney had a GOOD night. Here's where it gets interesting... In today's Weekly Standard online post-debate follow-up, Dean Barnett, Hugh's very good friend, regular contributor to HughHewitt.com, and, a guest host for Hugh's show, says quite the opposite! Following is a direct quote from Barnett's column:
"Mike Huckabee's an exceptional politician whose package of skills is often sold short. He's a lot more than an affable dispenser of one-liners who only knows how to play to the home crowd. For people who might be inclined to dismiss Huckabee, compare his response to Thompson's adroit offensive with McCain's blundering into the climate warming thicket. These two are the likely finalists, and one of them is much better at politics than the other.
Although fewer people watched last evening's festivities, tonight was even bigger for Huckabee. For the first time, it was not only possible but easy to imagine Huckabee as the leader of 300 million people. He combined this newfound authority with his old standbys of off-the-charts likability and a deft way of tapping into aspirational politics.

In the race for the Republican nomination, Mike Huckabee is going to be tough to beat."

Another Weekly Standard contributor, Bill Kristol, gave Huckabee kudos for his outstanding performance in the debate. But, for Romney, Kristol said he was the candidate who did the LEAST of what he needed to do in the debate to gain support.
Maybe, similar to Hugh's mis-judgement of Huckabee, many of us have mis-judged Hugh's intellect and ability to analyze the facts objectively. Hugh ought to read his friend's and peer's opinions of last night's debate...sprinkle a little reality on your salad from time to time.
Skeptic of Jingoism writes: Friday, January, 11, 2008 12:47 PM
Huckabee's the nominee
Stays alive in MI, wins big in SC, wins in FL, wins all over GOP strongholds on 2/5/08...

See Dean Barnett's column on RCP/Weekly standard:

http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/CampaignStandard/2008 /01/barnett_a_big_night_for_huckab_1.asp

Get used to it.
McTex writes: Friday, January, 11, 2008 12:30 PM
Losing respect fast for Hugh...
I know McCain personally. I know all of his staff. They are proud Republicans and traditional conservatives. Reagan held deep admiration for McCain and Nancy supports his candidacy. If you look at his overall record it is very conservative.

As Huck said last night, these same self-righteous conservative know it alls would be attacking Reagan for being a liberal because he raised taxes by 1 billion dollars as Governor of Cali and he signed an amnesty bill. BTW, McCain's stance on border security is the conservative one and it is Hugh and Rush and Ingram who have embraced the 19th century nativist liberal view - look it up - read some history. McCain is our best choice on the mere question of the war against Islamo-fascism. Hugh knows this, Rush knows this and yet they still attack him because he does not conform to their ideal of Jesus Christ enough. Grow up and start using your brains instead of arguing from your emotions like the left does.
jomentum writes: Friday, January, 11, 2008 12:29 PM
Valedictory - God bless you all.
I have just dropped my third grade son off at school. He is dressed in full Reagan Rancho Del Cielo regalia, and is giving a book report on the speech at the gate. He is adopted from Russia, so this is an important matter in our family. I love the Lord, my family, this country, and the GOP.

Because I joyfully back Senator McCain - http://johnmccain.com/ - Hugh says I am a "democrat." My life refutes that claim.

At my wife's urging, I will stop listening the Hugh Hewitt show and visiting this blog until after Mitt Romney is out of the race. It is bad for my health. "Joe," please keep posting the good word. May God bless you all, and may God bless America.

regtroll writes: Friday, January, 11, 2008 12:24 PM
McCain selling Donor List
Uh-oh.

Apparently McCain used donor lists as collateral for the bank loan he got to keep his campaign afloat.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/7837.html

TheChair writes: Friday, January, 11, 2008 12:21 PM
McCain Can't Win the General
No way. The Democrat starts with California, New York, Illinois and probably Ohio. We won't win running crotchety old grandpa. Limited love for him = limited finances. He won't have enough money to overcome that image. It's silly, too, to suppose he can get enough independents in the general because some vote for him now. So what. By the time fall rolls around, he will have been demonized by the left as an anachronistic fossil who only cares about the war. Even Churchill was ousted after war success. The number one issue will be the economy, and McCain will be the guy who brings a slingshot to a gunfight.

Moreover, McCain seems to be of limited intellect. There has been no evidence in ANY of the debates that he has ever thought deeply about policy. He has a couple of favorite principles that have served him well (honor, anti-pork), but that's about it. He's lousy on the economy, lousy on First Amendment, entirely uninterested in ongoing evidence against exaggerated green claims, too quick to compromise against his prncipled supporters, and too ignorant and undedicated to first principles of American citizenship. Senate comity is elevated over party. And he is all over the place on policy... nearly unguided by founding and conservative principles.

A disaster waiting to happen... again. Dole '96... McCain '08.
azcita writes: Friday, January, 11, 2008 12:20 PM
McCain arrogance and temperament
Let's not forget- he says "I always do what's right"- in his opinnion. He's made it clear, especially in the immigration debacle, that he cares nothing for our wishes or opinions. He has a nasty temper and we saw it in the Gang of 14, McC/Fein, no on tax cuts, cooperating with Kennedy at every opportunity- to the point that John Kerry wanted him for VP.
Also in Arizona- this guy will NEVER AGAIN be elected here! He is not fit by temperament to be POTUS; he's actually working for king and dictator.

And he hasn't changed his mind on immigration- he'd still let the illegals stay here and wait his chance to open the doors again, if he ever tries to close them in the first place.

Fred is the only consistent conservative.
Virginia Patriot writes: Friday, January, 11, 2008 12:17 PM
GOP-RIP?

Another amnesty will result in Democrat majorities for decades, why doesn't the RNC know that? How stupid do you have to be to import voters for the opposition at the same time you alienate your own voters? Nominating any of the amnesty trio (McCain, Huckabee, Rudy) is a losing proposition, we will not support them. If the GOP intends to surrender our sovereignty and abandon the rule of law, they will find in November 2008, that they still have their big money/cheap labor donors, but they do not have voters. GOP-RIP
Steve_in_Corona writes: Friday, January, 11, 2008 12:12 PM
Our strongest ticket
I realized that our best chance of winning (assuming Thompson is done) is a Rudy/Huck ticket.

Rudy is a disaster without a STRONG, social conservative whose credentials we can't deny.

Santorum is the only possible alternative I can think of - but another Northeast Catholic is not the same as a Southern Baptist in terms of keeping the crucial South.

I repeat - just picking a random Republican, even one with a 100% pro-life record, is not enough. You need an OUTSPOKEN social conservative - and even then count on losing a lot of pro-life votes.

Comments?
kchand writes: Friday, January, 11, 2008 12:08 PM
Groundhog day all over again...
We tried with an old Senator, war hero in 1996. He was even more of a Republican. That worked out well didn't it?
Jim writes: Friday, January, 11, 2008 12:04 PM
Arizonan
As another long-time Arizonan, I completely disagree with kchand. John McCain has served Arizona well over the past 25 years. No remorse here.

If McCain is the nominee, everyone will have the choice to vote for him or Hillary Clinton. That should be a no-brainer. Remember everyone, "It's the Supreme Court, stupid."
kchand writes: Friday, January, 11, 2008 11:59 AM
As a long-time Arizonan
one thing I can GUARANTEE if McCain should happen to become the nominee. Voter's remorse.
geoffrobinson writes: Friday, January, 11, 2008 11:53 AM
McCain Is Against Free Speech
How can I vote for someone who must take an oath to uphold the Constituiton when he has keeps trying to shred the First Amendment? Between that and a self-destructing temper, he won't go anywhere.

The press, his real base, will turn on him. They are only building him up to hurt the Republicans in my estimation.
Bensonally writes: Friday, January, 11, 2008 11:51 AM
Romney's comment on Reagan
Romney's comment on Reagan was more to the effect that, yes, Romney is his own man but that Reagan's policies and optomistic approach have appeared wiser and wiser as he himself has matured and gained experience. His mention of the funeral was more to illustrate how important Reagan has been to him. He was there. This is not flip flopping (a gross caricature of an honorable intelligent man) but rather positive maturation. Let's have more honest reporting folks!
Dan writes: Friday, January, 11, 2008 11:47 AM
Didn't start attacking McCain until Dec?
Patrick, have you been living under a rock??

You say Romney didn't start attacking McCain until December? Maybe not with official ads, but the ENTIRE POINT of Mitt Romney's candidacy, from its inception, has been to attack John McCain. EVERY SINGLE Romney speech --- dating back to last winter --- has included snide references to McCain-Feingold, McCain-Kennedy, the Gang of 14, blah blah.

Mitt's entire campaign was based on a negative, "Vote for me, because John McCain is not a true conservative."

The messagae did not resonate. Worse than that, nobody trusts Mitt Romney.

It's over. Romney is toast.
Shefali writes: Friday, January, 11, 2008 11:46 AM
McCain is still better than Hillary
I think he's serious, finally, about securing the border. I also think he still wants amnesty BUT if he secures the border first, that changes the debate.

On the economy - if he cuts pork barrel spending, that is a good thing and speaks to conservatives, especially if he keeps the Bush tax cuts or adds to them. He recently stated he wanted to make the tax cuts permanent.

On the life issue - he has voted 100% pro-life.

I have issues with McCain - on the issues I like Fred Thompson the best, and Romney probably second best, but McCain is not bad. And I respect his character and his patriotism. I also think he has the best chance of beating Hillary. He appeals to independents and men big time, and for the base - he is consistently pro-life and pro-military. He's certainly not the best on the issues, but I think he'd be ok and he'd win the general election against Hillary.
Jim writes: Friday, January, 11, 2008 11:37 AM
Late Convert
Slick Mitt could be one of the dumbest politicians in history. Didn't convert to Reagan conservatism until Reagan's funeral?

Is this guy real? HH should be ashamed, but as we know with his undying shilling for Slick Mitty, he won't be.

Hey, where are all the Mittbots on this one? PC, CDubber? C'mon, chime in.
Craig writes: Friday, January, 11, 2008 11:37 AM
I agree with Ruffini
I am a McCain supporter but I do agree with Ruffini's analysis.

McCain's biggest problem with the base right now is not immigration (That issue stirs rage that has only hurt every candidate) and McCain has shown in the senate very hawkish on border fence and visa (Which is the real prblem) control. The biggest problem is economics.

McCain is a budget buster, and clearly thinks the Repubs have fenced themselves into a corner on tax cuts because of insane spending by both parties. This may be true, but he has to be more articulate about what kind of tax stimulus may be needed for the economy.

For McCain's part he has said that he will keep the Bush tax cuts, but I don't think he really has made the case for them. I personally think he is worried about the spending on the wars and how they will be paid for. A difficult issue for both parties.
bwright writes: Friday, January, 11, 2008 11:36 AM
As for Joe
Do you really need to flame every single thread on TH? You have made your point 100 times a day, and its not relevant to Patrick's discussion. What are you trying to accomplish? Why not get your own blog if you want to post off topic all the time?

Honestly as pro-Romney as HH has been. You are worse. At least its a microphone that he paid for.
bwright writes: Friday, January, 11, 2008 11:32 AM
If Romney wins MI or is close enough...
I expect he'll go negative. I suspet niether Rudy or Mitt feel McCain is electable in 2008. So they figure they have another chance at the ring in 2012. If Romney were to go negative now, but still lose to McCain, then Romney could be seen as the villain for helping Hillary/Obama beat McCain (hurting morale of the base, providing ammo to the enemy). As much as conservatives don't like McCain - I suspect they'll be longing for him after four years of Hillary. This logic applies to Rudy also.

It's too bad there is not a 527 going called something like "Republicans for the Regan Coalition". An add that just went something like:

Voice Over -
"In 2000 John McCain lost the Republican primary. He spent the next 8 years convincing Republicans with his actions and words that it was a smart decision:"

Screen goes Black, with white lettering:

"In 2001 he opposed the Bush tax cuts"

"Again in 2003 he opposed the Bush tax cuts."

"In 2003 He led the legislative effort for campaign finance reform, the McCain/Feingold legislation."

"He supported amnesty for illegals, and worked with Ted Kennedy to pass a bill that would have granted priviledges and citizenship"

"He undermined our intelligence capabilities and risked American lives by opposing tough interrogation techniques and Guantanamo."

etc.

You could have 10 or so of these total Brutus moments, and support the lettering, with audio of McCain doing each of these things. Put it on nationwide, and it would destroy McCain. His stubbornness about staying in Iraq is a major strength, and add like the above would invert that, showing how often that same quality has screwed over the general republican convictions.
Joe writes: Friday, January, 11, 2008 11:27 AM
The link worked again to Matt Lewis
http://www.townhall.com/blog/g/be78cdab-3657-472c-ab7a-4cb5 e92f261c

Reporting the lamest worst Mitt Romney flip flop answer ever.
Joe writes: Friday, January, 11, 2008 11:26 AM
The Matt Lewis link is disabled
http://www.townhall.com/blog/g/be78cdab-3657-472c-ab7a-4cb5 %20e92f261c

Was it a lie? Did Mitt not say that to Alan Combs? Or are Hugh and Matt Lewis fighting as we speak?
Joe writes: Friday, January, 11, 2008 11:23 AM
Hugh stop lying to yourself
The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey shows McCain at 27% and Huckabee at 24%...The current survey finds Mitt Romney running a distant third at 16%. http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/el ection_20082/2008_presidential_election/south_carolina/elec tion_2008_south_carolina_republican_primary

McCain beats Hillary and Obama in Pennsylvania in the general election. PENNSYLVANIA! That is a blue state, remember? http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/el ection_20082/2008_presidential_election/pennsylvania/pennsy lvania_2008_presidential_election

Mitt loses to both of them.

McCain beats Hillary in Maryland in the general: http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/el ection_20082/2008_presidential_election/maryland/maryland_2 008_presidential_election Mitt loses to Hillary there.

McCain beats Hillary and Obama in Virginia. Mitt loses to Obama and only ties Hillary there. Think about that. http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/el ection_20082/2008_presidential_election/virginia/virginia_2 008_presidential_election

Mitt also ties Hillary in Alabama. ALABAMA!!!!! How can anyone who rationally wants the GOP to win support Mitt for the nomination anymore. WAKE UP!!! You want to support Fred, or Rudy, or someone other than McCain fine, but Mitt is going to lose!
And/but/so writes: Friday, January, 11, 2008 11:20 AM
Patrick
The problem is none of these candidates are perfect. Fred is awakening, but pretty late in the game. Romney has been labeled a phony, a label that is now stuck, and his money can't overcome that. Rudy has disappeared into the mist, and has shown a reluctance to go after McCain (and vice versa). And Huck is the one candidate the economic / military cons like less than McCain. McCain has problems, but they all have problems.
Joe writes: Friday, January, 11, 2008 11:17 AM
Mitt Romney said this? Are you insane?
At the post interview with Mitt Romney, Alan Colmes asked him about distancing himself from Reagan/Bush in 1994 and his response was “I went to the funeral and learned about Reagan’s optimism and saw the light? EXCUSE ME, YOU DIDN’T KNOW ABOUT REAGAN AND WHAT HE MEANT TO THE GOP TILL HIS FUNERAL? THAT HAS TO BE THE LAMEST answer and one of the biggest flip flops EVER. NO SERIOUS candidate who wants to carry the Reagan Mantel can honestly say they didn’t believe in Reagan till he died!

http://www.townhall.com/blog/g/be78cdab-3657-472c-ab7a-4cb5 e92f261c

You cannot even parody Mitt Romney anymore.

Hugh, its over. It is time to throw in the towel. Is your co-blogger at Town Hall Matt Lewis lying? If Mitt said this he is finished.

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