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Monday, November 17, 2008
Huckabee Hits Romney, Christian Conservative Leaders, and Libertarians in New Book
Posted by: Matt Lewis at 9:47 AM


If the released excerpts are any indication, Mike Huckabee's new book (which goes on sale tomorrow) will be a must-read, tell-all account of the 2008 primary campaign that political junkies will gobble-up.  Huck seems to pull no punches here. 

From the article:

Mitt Romney, Huckabee's principle rival in Iowa, comes in for the roughest treatment. Huckabee writes that the former Massachusetts Governor's record was "anything but conservative until he changed the light bulbs in his chandelier in time to run for president." He notes that Romney declined to make a phone call of congratulations after Huckabee beat the oddsmakers to win the Iowa caucuses, "which we took as a sign of total disrespect." He mocks Romney for suggesting, during one debate, more investment in high-yield stocks as a solution to economic woes. "Let them eat stocks!" Huckabee jokes.

His treatment of former candidate Fred Thompson, a rival who helped sink Huckabee's upstart ambitions in South Carolina, is somewhat more favorable, if only because it is less personal. Huckabee maintains that Thompson's biggest mistake was strategic: He didn't understand the need to expand the Republican party beyond its base. "Fred Thompson never did grasp the dynamics of the race or the country, and his amazingly lackluster campaign reflected just how disconnected he was with the people, despite the anticipation and expectation that greeted his candidacy," Huckabee writes.

... Huckabee also goes after Christian conservatives who did not support his candidacy:

He calls out Pat Robertson, the Virginia-based televangelist, and Dr. Bob Jones III, chancellor of Bob Jones University in South Carolina, for endorsing Rudy Giuliani and Romney, respectively. He also has words for the Texas-based Rev. John Hagee, who endorsed the more moderate John McCain in the primaries, as someone who was drawn to the eventual Republican nominee because of the lure of power. Huckabee speaks to Hagee by phone before the McCain endorsement, while the former Arkansas Governor is preparing for a spot on Saturday Night Live. "I asked if he had prayed about this and believed this was what the Lord wanted him to do," Huckabee writes of his conversation with Hagee. "I didn't get a straight answer." Months later, McCain rejected Hagee's endorsement because of controversial remarks the pastor had made about biblical interpretations.

... He also hits Libertarians and fiscal conservatives:

In a chapter entitled "Faux-Cons: Worse than Liberalism,"Huckabee identifies what he calls the "real threat" to the Republican Party: "libertarianism masked as conservatism." He is not so much concerned with the libertarian candidate Ron Paul's Republican supporters, as he is with a strain of mainstream fiscal conservative thought that demands ideological purity, seeing any tax increase as apostasy and leaving little room for government-driven solutions to people's problems. "I don't take issue with what they believe, but the smugness with which they believe it," writes Huckabee, who raised some taxes as a governor and cut other deals with his state's Democratic legislature. "Faux-Cons aren't interested in spirited or thoughtful debate, because such an endeavor requires accountability for the logical conclusion of their argument." Among his targets is the Club For Growth, a group that tarred Huckabee as insufficiently conservative in the primaries and ran television ads with funding from one of Huckabee's longtime Arkansas political foes, Jackson T. Stephens Jr. 

... One thought immediately strikes me:  This sort of candor is rare among politicians who have futures (or believe they have futures).  This is the candidate's equivalent of writing a tell-all Scott McClellanesque memoir.  It will surely generate a lot of buzz and sells a lot of copies, but does it help him win friends and influence people???

... Is this an indication that he has no future presidential ambitions???  Does he believe that this is his 15 minutes, and he has to quickly cash-in now -- while there is still interest in him?  Or is he egotistical enough to believe that he can write this sort of book today, and then use his great talent for talking to smooth things over later?

Lastly, TIME's headline also strikes me as humorous:  "Huckabee, Finally, Settles His Campaign Scores..."  (.. Finally???  When did he stop attacking his opponents???) 



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Laura writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 10:18 AM
Not being able to handle the truth- not
a matter of concern now...it's whether or not people can handle an honest man who has the cajones to tell it like it is. Bravo! Go Mike!!
Big G writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 10:29 AM
?

?

Good luck with that Huck.





Jerrel writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 10:37 AM
Huckabee...
...is an IDIOT. He single-handedly took out the republicans best shot at winning the election this year to defeat OBAMUNISM by becoming John MccCant's little puppet throughout the primary process. I REFUSE to vote for a man who is a liberal-moderate at heart. Huckabee can go rot for all I care. And attacking your base isn't helping your chances at anything you dimwitted fool, see McCain '08. Not even superstar Sarah Palin could save the sinking ship USS John McTitanic.
carlos writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 10:41 AM
sounds too complicated
Cut taxes, limit govt, keep the defense strong, and let people be free to do what they want as long as the don't infringe on another's right to be free.

Is that smug?
Theophilus writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 10:42 AM
Feeling Da Love
This is really low.

Mike Huckabee is starting to come off as a the world's biggest whiner. He takes aim at anyone who ever raised an issue with him. Some of those issues were legitimate.

I do agree that Romney showed disrespect by not calling and congratulating Huck. I do agree that Romney seems more like a social-conservative-of-convenience (I actually supported Romney in the primary).

However, if Romney is chandalier-conservative then Huckabee is a populist-pandering-conservative.

Conclusion: Both of them should grow up for the sake of the party.
Dr_B writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 10:44 AM
Yeah, THIS is the guy we want at the RNC


Uhh....NEVER.

Please go crawl back under the rock you came out of in Arkansas.

Please Michael Steele, put this clown out of his misery and our party.
Bennett writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 10:51 AM
What a Baby
Of course Romney was disrespectful, Huckabee cost him the nomination by splitting his votes, leaving McCain to win. It's the exact same scenario going on in Minnestoa right now with Franken.

Romney could have won the election, particularly after the debate focused on economics. Don't forget that for a second.

Huckabee, like a toddler, refused to bow out of the race when he knew it was over, under the guise of "giving people a choice". Total BS. He's incredibly obnoxious.

Huckabee's career is obviously over. It never started. On the national spotlight at least.
Larry writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 11:04 AM
HUCK YEA!!!!!!!!!!!
Huck is telling it like it is....get over it.

HUCK 2012!!!!!!
The Plumber writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 11:14 AM
Whaa?
"a strain of mainstream fiscal conservative thought that demands ideological purity, seeing any tax increase as apostasy and leaving little room for government-driven solutions to people's problems."

Last I checked, Freedom from Tax Day is nearing the middle of the year. At what point is enough? At what level of taxation do you say, "STOP!". At what level of taxation do you declare that it is state-sponsored slavery?

We "ideological purists" have been holding our noses and voting for libs like you for decades. This "ideological purist" walked his feet bloody for liberal McCain. This "ideological purist" defended liberal Bush against attacks by Democrats even when such attacks were warranted. This, despite the fact that all I want from the government is to leave me the h*ll alone.

Hey Mike. If you want to be a Democrat, be a Democrat. Otherwise, it's time for you and the rest of the "faux-cons" to hold YOUR noses for a change.

Jerk.
throatwarblermangrove writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 11:21 AM
Another book well not worth reading.....
Huckabee is a petty, backstabbing, bigoted, liar. He is indistinguishable from McCain on a broad range of issues, including:

1. Cap and trade / global warming
2. Amnesty for illegal immigrants
3. Corporate "greed" etc.

The only thing I ever liked about him was his support for the "fair tax", but in retrospect, I doubt if he understands it.

There must be a good deal of WEASEL in the Arkansas political DNA. Step away from the populist.


Perceptor II writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 11:23 AM
This is the path toward irrelevancy
I actually do agree with some of what Huckabee says here. But he's repeating the same mistakes John McCain made, who found it hard to rally conservatives behind him after years of attacking them. If he keeps this up, come 2012 he may find himself on the outside looking in.
Jerrel writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 11:24 AM
Shut up Huck.
Romney
Palin
Jindal

That's the future of the RNC.
CapitalisticPig writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 11:28 AM
No Name Calling...
But, Huckabee? What are you thinking? I think after his anti-Mormon vitriol, he knows he has no chance of winning. He won't take it back because he sincerely believes it, so this is his way of going out with a bang. I admire his candor, but I don't agree with a word of it.
Laura writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 11:33 AM
You people don' t want honesty!
Talk is cheap! You all talk about mike being a cry baby, but you just can't take it when he tells the truth. You claim to want honesty in our politicians, but when one of them has the courage to be honest, you diss him mercilessly.

Maybe the problem with America these days is that too many people are are just fickle and dont have a clue what they want.

What is wrong with telling it like it was? If you were mistreated at work or fired for no reason, or trashed by your neighbors unfairly and you wanted to tell about it in a book - where would that be wrong? Yet Mike Huckabee took abuse, sufferered lies about his character, was made of fun of because of his diet, his religion, his slang, etc. but through it all he stood up to it and he would have beat Romney HAD ROMNEY DROPPED OUT, as some of you say Huckabee should have done.

The only reason Romney dropped out was because he couldn't beat Huckabee and he knew it, he was spending millions to trash Huckabee with the meanest ads he could come up with, even dipping into his personal money - and it wasn't working. Huckabee wouldn't step aside and 'give it' to Romney, and he shouldn't have. He had every right to stay in the race same as any of the others, who by the way, all had to take a hike early due to voters who were uniterested.

So what do you want - Huckabee the honest truth telling politician, or the liars as usual?
Rush Conservative for Huck/2012 writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 11:46 AM
Northeastern Moderates need not apply
Like it or not the road to the GOP nomination leads through the south. Romney straight up against Huckabee, will get his butt handed to him. Name one state south of ohio, that Romney could carry against Huckabee. There isn't one.

Fred Thompson turned this election by attacking Huck in SC and siphoning off votes, Huck still was very close to winning. If Huck wins SC, He wins the nomination.

Obama would have hung the financial meltdown neatly around Romney's neck and would have thrashed him in the general, 45 states probably.

Romney's political hopes hinge on whether or not Huck runs in 2012. If Huck runs, the smart thing for Romney to do is to ask Huckabee nicely if he could serve as VP, or Treasury Sec, etc..

Conservatism, honest and genuine, will be what brings this party back to Reagen principles and to victory.
LB writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 12:00 PM
This guy is an absolute joke.
The conservatives need to make it very clear that this joke of a man is one of the first "moderates" to be marginalized. We could blame several people for the Republicans' complete lack of any shot at victory this year-McCain, the media, Bush, but is anyone really more responsible than this numb skull? He used the naked bigotry, that he has been fostering from the pulpit, and backdoor conniving to divide the Republicans and doom our most credible candidate in the primaries-handing us the candidate picked by most liberals.
Look, Romney certainly wasn't perfect, but he was unquestionably our best candidate. If we continue to let a bigot like this run the process and buy his stupid book, we'll stay right where we are now. Ask yourself, does this clown really have the best interests of conservatives and America at heart?

Trampling out the vintage writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 12:11 PM
Mike Huckabee is bad for the Party.
He is not a team player, period. He is out to support his own cause. I really wish he would talk about issues and leave personal digs alone. Huckabee and Romney will never be best friends... and for that matter, neither will their supporters. They can get along, though.
Gunlock Bill writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 12:13 PM
Earth to Laura
Laura: he would have beat Romney HAD ROMNEY DROPPED OUT, as some of you say Huckabee should have done.

GB: Clue. Romney did DROP OUT, and it took Huckabee TWO MORE MONTHS to finally get more delegates.
kerri so cal writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 12:15 PM
Besides being
quite possibly the biggest dork there ever was, he is ridiculous and an embarrassment to Christian Conservatives.

After his show is canceled, do you think he might just go back to Arkansas and we might be rid of him.

Why do people buy the endless pile of pundit books and support these "self proclaimed" celebrities. Put your money in bank.
Lori writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 12:17 PM
Talk about sanctimony!
Huckabee himself is "anything but conservative." A tax and spender, guy big on entitlements, big on criminals, big on ethics violations, a guy well known in anti-mormon circles who intimidates entire congregations of evangelicals into voting for him saying it will have a "chilling effect" if they don't.

Why write such a book? A book intended to further divide the conservatives at a time when we need to figure out a way to unite in our common cause of small government and individual freedoms.

My personal opinion...Huckabee is a sanctimonius, self-absorbed, corrupt, calculating politician who has earned my disdain by his actions and this very book.
Larry writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 12:25 PM
Common Sense Republican....
That's what the incredible huck is...the more people hear his message, the more they will realize that he's the man to lead us in 2012.

there is nothing wrong with raising a tax that 80% of the voters supported.

and for all you sanctimonious so called conservatives who bash huck for taxes and immigration; what's your excuse for reagan doing it as governor?
my2centsplus writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 12:27 PM
Rush conservative
Step away from the raido and start doing a bit of research. Romney gleened almost as many evanglaists (I call them the thinking faction of your faith) as Huckles the clown. He also kicked butt in several states, including kicking Huckles butt in Fla. A last minute lie caused mitt to barely lose Fla. Romney also won in VA, until the back door 'deal' that gave the delegates to Huckles. He did not win then. Mitt won more votes. It was split 3 ways and one had to cry uncle and give someone his delegates, if he wanted to.
Romney won Nevada. Colorado. New Mexico. and more. Big states, with lots of delegates. Oh, and you know what? McCain lost them not just in the primary, but in the national as well.
Huckles the clown is just that. A clown. Rumor has it that an LDS man is being considered to head the RNC. Wont that put his knickers in a twist?
Oh and Laura? Hit someone else. I'm reading on this thread that not too many are fond of your 'christian' candidate. Especially when he's not acting very christian and is only out for more money.
my2centsplus writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 12:37 PM
Laura
Honest and huckabee are not even connected words! Huck honest? I'm lauging so hard, I need to go up and change to something dry. The dude can't get over himself. Romney did not call him after Iowa? Oh waaaaaa. Did the clown call Romney after Mass, Main, Minn, Nevada, Colorado, ... and the other WINS? Nope. Do you hear Romney crying that your God-man did not call him to congratulate him? Of course not. One has class, the other has crass. Now, you can sit in your wee little bigot world and wish this all to go away. But the facts are there. Why won't romney write a kiss off and tell all book from his vantage point? 1. he does not need the money. 2. his goal is to help rebuild the party. I guess Huckles the clown is still miffed he's not been included in any RNC inner circle stuff. Shows that we don't take him or others like him, seriously anymore.
Lolo1 writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 12:41 PM
I like Huckabee and
I do think he has a place in the party and can really be a force for good. He certainly has courage.

Having said that, I can't help but wonder if his visceral disrespect for Romney has more to do with religion than anything else.

Huckabee is an Evangelical, and I have a deep respect for Evangelicals. However, they need to get a grip and get back to the task that God assigned them. That assignment is education and that is where they are most useful. We could much more easily make many issues a great big non-issue if we fought it in the culture and not the courts.
Big G writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 12:51 PM
Good rundown on Hucks book@Hotair
"Unfortunately, in this book, Mike Huckabee is consumed with presumed slights, and he seems more interested in settling scores than in bringing people together.”

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/11/17/new-huckabee-book-rip s-mitt-fred-evangelical-leaders-pretty-much-everyone/
Gunlock Bill writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 1:01 PM
Huckabee vs. Palin
Now that would be fun to watch.

Huckabee has already started dissing Palin. LOL!

http://briefingroom.thehill.com/2008/09/11/palin-jokes-popu lar-at-celebrity-standup-contest/

Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee (Rino): "John McCain didn't vet me…but he didn't vet Sarah Palin either."
Big G writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 1:02 PM
Huck settles His campaign scores


Why pay money to run an attack ad at Romney when you can claim to be above petty politics

then show the ad to the press and have them release it to the public for free,

that way you can make money writing a book and go into further details to settle old campaign scores.

No one can say doesnt have that entrepreneur spirit.

I can't say he has much spirit of anything else.
Hitchhiker writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 1:07 PM
Huck the Bigot
Needs to go. Home. Soon.

Romney has more conservative principles in his little finger than Huckabee could ever articulate. Huckabee most closely resembles Obama of any of the presidential candidates last year. A know-nothing politician whipping up a passionate base. With Obama it was the leftist base, the hard core communists. Huck tried to motivate the evangelical base by whipping up anti-mormon fears no different than Obama blames the rich and greedy.

Christians should not be so easily led or deceived but, I guess they are only human like all the Obamabots. A little populist rhetoric is all a politician needs nowadays on the left or the right.
Laura writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 1:18 PM
Hitchkiker, Hucks tell the truth
and for THAT you call him a BIGOT? Look the word up! You and mytwocents must have a very limited knowledge of the English vocabulary as to have to use that word for everything.

Looks like you're one of those Kool Aid drinking Obama lovin' braindead zombies who wouldn't know a real Bigot if he slapped you up side the face.

Look at Obama's record a little more thoroughly and you will see a real Bigot. And then go look in the mirror and you will see the even more familiar face of a Bigot!
mrwebsmith writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 1:25 PM
Huckabee is no friend of conservatives
Huckabee agreed with McCain on allowing illegal immigration. He raised taxes in Arkansas more times than Clinton did. In other words, he believed government could solve Arkansas' budget problems rather than the entreprenurial spirit of those who would have started or expanded businesses in response to tax cuts.

He is no friend of Christians or conservatives. Research his record, his speeches, his background. In summary, Huckabee=McCain Lite.

If what Republicans wanted a true conservative in 2008 they should have gone with Duncan Hunter. IMO
Pat writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 1:36 PM
Romney Any Day Over Huckabee
Huckabee calls himself a Christian and was even a Pastor. How could a man, a Christian and former Pastor, treat a fellow human being the way he does/did Romney? I find it quite despicable. He is as far away from being Christian as he claims Romney is. Many believe that Mormons are not Christians, and yet Romney behaves more like a Christian than Huckabee ever did.

It was always about Romney's religion with Huckabee anyway.

When will this country get over the fact that we do NOT elect a Pastor for President? We are electing the most capable and honorable man for the Presidency. In the Republican party during the primaries, that was Romney. And for reference, I am Lutheran.

Zak writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 1:52 PM
The bloggers are right - Huck is a bigot
I saw it myself on Fox News. He had a couple of jackasses with him discussing Prop 8 going down in California. Who did they attack? Romney. Huck is seriously unstable. Of all the people he could have taken aim at, he picked Romney. What an idiot. No mention that Romney's church is taking hits from gay activists who they blame for it's defeat.

Look, I never liked Huck after hearing reports from Novak and others that in the Batist Church he was a liberal leader and beat up conservatives (Huck, this is why they never supported you); when as Governor he ganged up with the Democrats and beat up GOP conservatives (Arkansas GOP didn't even run a Senate candidate this year), when he supported illegal immigrants, higher taxes etc etc etc. (This was the pre-primary Huck for those who don't recogise him.)

He and McCain were soul brothers. Both liberals running as conservatives. He's an ugly man with an ugly disposition. Memo to Fox; you have no right putting an obviously disturbed man on television.
Zak writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 2:05 PM
Huck is turning on Palin
Gunlock Bill, thanks for the heads up on Hucks joke on Palin. That reminded me that on his show he had a David Letterman segment making fun of Sarah Palin.

Good heavens, the weasel Huck is mocking Sarah because he sees her as a threat in 2012. Memo to Huck; you don't stand a chance against her you pathetic little man.
stevo writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 2:21 PM
Wrong Bible Reference
Either Huck or Time got the reference to King David wrong when he/they attributed "Thou art the man" to Naaman. The accusing prophet was Nathan, who had previously proclaimed God's covenant with David.

I hope the mistake was in the magazine and not in Huckabee's book.

Also--I don't see how Huckabee's comments (at least those in Time) would help rather than hurt the conservative movement. If we've learned anything from the savaging of Palin, we shouldn't be too eager to tear into our own as it endangers our movement's future.
Florida writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 2:24 PM
I like It
Go Mike! I like it when a person has courage to tell all! Romney is nothing but a Money Broker Elitist! Remember Folks Mitt made his money on Hedge Funds, yeah thats right, one of the problems with Wall Street Today! Wonder how much of peoples 401K is sitting in Mitts Bank Account!
Gunlock Bill writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 2:40 PM
Huckabee vs. Palin
Let’s see…

A whiny, backbiting, divisive, bitter, acidic populist who held the social right hostage to bludgeon Romney long after the man dropped out, just to make sure the guy didn’t get picked as VP, THEN continued the barrage to cauterize any future thoughts of a Mitt candidacy…

or

A young, effervescent, decent, gracious, hard-hitting, corruption-busting current governor with an 80% approval rating in her state who practices what she preaches under the most trying of circumstances, offers to babysit the children of the woman who has been savaging her every Saturday Night for weeks with no hint of resentment, and electrifies crowds?

Humm . . . . .

Bring it on Huckaphony!!
Tadpole writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 2:50 PM
Huckabee - Only One With A Plan
Read 'From Hope to Higher Ground' by Mike Huckabee and you will quickly realize that this is a man that has answers to America's problems.

He's done it in Arkansas - and without creating a theocracy (who knew?).

So few politicians have any real plans to solve problems - Huckabee does. Perfect? Nah, but at least has plans that have a practical chance of succeeding.

Rich Not wealthy writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 3:24 PM
Tadpole, you mean a plan to be next to
last of all countries just like Arkansas is next to last of all the states? Get a life! Huck's plan is Obama-lite, but barely lite.
ScarletPimpernel writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 3:33 PM
"spirited debate"
to Stupid Party Talking Heads like Suckabee, this means "I give in to what you want".

Plumber, as usual, is right. If we keep being "open-minded" the Stupid Party will end up being a Third Party.

Romney for Treasury Secretary 2012.
Laura writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 3:43 PM
Huck will laugh all the way to the bank
because people will buy his book and many of them will agree that at least he has the guts to tell the truth, unlike some of the assskissers who think they have to be politically correct and lie like dogs all the time.

I give Huck all the credit in the world for having the cajones to do what NO OTHER politician out there has the cajones to do. Kudos Huck! go Mike.
Gunlock Bill writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 3:54 PM
Did Huckabee lose God's support?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSQNSlUUoOc&feature=related

What happened?
Zak writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 4:01 PM
Laura the Huckbot
Does everybody lie except Huck Laura? If you support him because he goes to your church, then consider this. Huck is complaining that the Christian Conservative leaders didn't support him. Why not Laura? Because he's not conservative. They can't stand him. The conservative churches do not like him Laura. He was a liberal leader in the Baptist Church who beat up the conservatives. Get it through your thick skull. The man is a weasel.

He is now mocking Sarah Palin. I saw him do it on his show the other day, showing a clip from David Letterman. He joked about her not being vetted. The man is a weasel.
icecream writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 4:07 PM
thanks Jerrel
I really believe that a Romney/Palin team would have rallied us, as a nation, back towards respect for our nation and for morals, both socially and fiscally. Both not only claim to, but act as they really do love their country and their families, and their God. Huckabee seems to me to be a divider, that's all. Just my opinion.
Jonathan writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 4:13 PM
Hucks great
Mann...you guys who keep attacking Huck need to take a look at the people you supported. ROMNEY?! Conservative MY FOOT! And his attacking of Huckabee was much greater than anything Huckabee has ever done to him.
Gunlock Bill writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 4:15 PM
To quote "sulla" from "hotair".
The issue isn’t Romney as much as Huck’s rancid obsession with Romney. You can agree with Huck about Romney (and others) and still find Huck a poor candidate in his own right.

Political memoirs tend to fall into three camps: reminiscence, rehabilitation, or revenge. Successful statesmen looking back write the first; unsuccessful candidates looking for another run write the second; and self-absorbed, small-minded fools with axes to grind and bridges to burn write the third.

Mitt’s not writing a tell-all about Huckabee’s flaws or blaming multitudes for his loss in 2008. He may loathe the man as much as Huck loathes him, but Romney doesn’t make a point of it every time he opens his mouth. When the primaries ended, he moved on.

Huck? Not so much.
JP writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 4:16 PM
Lewis never fails
To show how much of a shill he really is. You might want to read a little further down the article where it states that the main thrust of the book is the grassroots nature of his campaign for President. Of course, reporting this important fact wouldn't help fan the indignation of the Romney fans on here.

Honestly, you all amaze me. Romney had the money lined up forever, had the talking heads and party establishment all firmly behind him and still couldn't really win anyplace that wasn't a "home" state, or was largely uncontested. He ran an awful campaign and is probably done on the national stage.

JP
Gunlock Bill writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 4:25 PM
Huckabee is honest?
He had his minions distributing fliers on car windshields at a South Carolina FRED THOMPSON RALLY, saying FRED was pro-abortion and responsible for the murders of 200,000 babies.

Does that sound truthful to you?
Zak writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 4:30 PM
Thats right JP - We do ALL amaze you
Huck is an ugly man and we ALL do not like him. It would be few people who do not see Huck as a weasel. Having made Romney the butt of his jokes, he's now turning on Palin. I guess he now sees her as the enemy.
Gunlock Bill writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 4:33 PM
Huckabee's stock in trade!
Waging low-grade class warfare by sneering at Romney’s wealth and appealing to evangelicals to vote along religious lines.

He is a prime example of what SUCKS about the Republican party. He’s even more of a RINO than McCain, and more self-absorbed, which is hard to imagine.
Zak writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 4:33 PM
Hey Gunlock, I like your comments
Hey Gunlock, I like your comments on Huck being unable to move on. They were very wise observation. I see a new enemy for him though in his jokes on Sarah Palin.
Laura writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 4:35 PM
GB: and how do you know this?
Is it a rumor? Did you see him do it? Funny, I never heard that sroty before. And speaking of liars, you think your man, Romney doesn't lie?
How about "My father marched with Martin Luther King? A REAL WHOPPER! Oh, and "I didn't know abortion meant the baby actually died. WHAT??
And I support the gay movement. As a matter of fact he said he was more liberal on the subject than Ted Kennedy! Hello! And this man is a mormon - a community leader - a Christian?

He made millions off of launching then closing companies, but that's easy for you to overlook while you're bashing Huckabee isn't it? Loser!
There is so much more to Romney that you wouldn't want to know!
boni writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 4:38 PM
Romney is the Best!!!
Romney is by far the best candidate that we had.

Romney lives his principles, and has always worked hard.

Yes he is rich, but he got that money by working hard, and never giving up.

Huckabee just cannot stop attacking Romney even now.

Romney lives a clean life also, and is working hard even now to better America.
Gunlock Bill writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 4:40 PM
Sarah, watch out!!
When Huckaphony finally gets it through his thick head that you are a greater threat to his presidential aspirations than Romney.

You are after all;

1) MORE CONSERVATIVE.

2) Better looking.

3) more "christian".

4) nicer.

5) more likeable.
Gunlock Bill writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 4:47 PM
Laura
"How about "My father marched with Martin Luther King? A REAL WHOPPER!"

GB: Well, here is another eyewitness.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1207/7524.html

Gunlock Bill writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 4:50 PM
Laura
Oh, and;

http://occidentalvalues.blogspot.com/2007/12/george-romney- and-martin-luther-king.html


Oh well, you just ignore these and keep drinking the Huckabigot koolaid!!
Aaron writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 4:50 PM
Huck is a loser
Huck is trying everything to keep his 15 minutes of fame. I'm so glad he's promoting himself and trying to help the GOP.
Zak writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 4:51 PM
Laura, Once again so you understand
Conservative Christian Leaders do not like Huck. Huck is complaining about it in his book. They don't like him because he is a liberal. He beat up conservatives in his own church.

Doesn't it bother you that many in his own church and in the Christain community not like him? And doesn't it bother you that he is mocking Sarah Palin?
Big G writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 4:53 PM
Huck is the Al Sharpton the Republican
Party.

Looking out for numero uno, focusing on his base rather than Americans, that is how he will continue to stay alive and pay his bills.

His political aspirations are caput.

The only people that will buy his book will be the people that still think he was chosen of God since he is one of them.

These people are his base, when Huck starts talking to the country as Americans rather than his kind of Christian, then I might listen. Till then.

Huck remains the Al Sharpton of the Republican Party and apparently as divisive as ever.









Aaron writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 4:58 PM
Aaron
Laura are mormons not Christians? They believe Christ is their Savior, wouldn't that make them Christians?
Big G writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 4:59 PM
Case and point


The primaries are over.

Who has moved on? Everyone but Huck.

Who hasn't? Huck

This is such blatant political suicide that this book screams "Im gonna keep using my star power to make money till it runs out."

With the party that star power is quickly burning out, with Hucks base, probably not.

Hence the Al Sharpton of the Republican Party.

Gunlock Bill writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 5:07 PM
Ol' Huck
still can’t let bygones by bygones, can he? No "christian" forgiveness from him.

Huck is a bitter, angry man who hates Romney for some reason that I don't understand. It is personal there, and Huck was the one who started the mudslinging too.

Besides, just about anyone I knew who wanted Huckabee WAS the stereotypical “evangelical bigot” the liberals scream about. I’m sure there were a few sane Huckabee voters–I just never met any.

He is washed up, and any suggestion he would be a good candidate in 2012 is ludicrous. I’d rather run Bush 41 again. Or Dole. Heck, even Ford or McCain!

But have at it Huck. Feel free to join in the 2012 contest. It will be even more fun to watch you then.
Laura writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 5:15 PM
GB: Maybe Huckabee doesn't want to run
in 2012. Ever think of that? Maybe he has had enough of the assskissers who would lie through their teeth just to be politically correct. Maybe he likes showbiz and will keep a career in television. whatever he decides to do he will be good at it, as the popularity of his new show attests.
Laura writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 5:20 PM
Aaron, SOME Mormons are
christians, some are not!
Laura writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 5:22 PM
ZAK one more time, explain your beef
You: Doesn't it bother you that many in his own church and in the Christain community not like him?

Me: Name names.

You: And doesn't it bother you that he is mocking Sarah Palin?

Me: What did he say about Palin, and when did he say it?
Gunlock Bill writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 5:23 PM
Laura
Well, now that you mention it. Huck would know all about being an "assskisser", wouldn't he.

I mean, after all, his sycophantic "assskissing" of McCain during the primary to keep Romney down was truly amazing.
Gunlock Bill writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 5:26 PM
Laura
Did you even read the blog posting above"

"He calls out Pat Robertson, the Virginia-based televangelist, and Dr. Bob Jones III, chancellor of Bob Jones University in South Carolina, for endorsing Rudy Giuliani and Romney, respectively. He also has words for the Texas-based Rev. John Hagee, who endorsed the more moderate John McCain in the primaries,. . ."

Laura writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 5:28 PM
GB: he had no beef with Mc cain
because Mc cain didn't begin the primary debates by attacking Huckabee with one rotten, lying ad after the other. Truth be known the liar Romney had to leave the campaign because all his money couldn't stop the little ole Governor from Arkansas who had no name recognition, and no money but was still beating the sh!t out of him. Take a reality pill, dude!
Aaron writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 5:30 PM
Some are not?
How are some Mormons Christians and some aren't? That doesn't make any sence to me.
Gunlock Bill writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 5:31 PM
Laura
You aren't paying attention!

See my Monday, November, 17, 2008 1:01 PM post above.
Laura writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 5:39 PM
GB:
Well good grief, it WAS a joke, after all! It was meant as a joke. Huckabee likes to joke. He is a huge fan of Palins and I have heard him say MANY nice things about her. Got anything else?
Laura writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 5:44 PM
Aaron, I personally know of
Mormons who go to church to look good, and some of the ones I know would screw their granny out of a dollar. I know one (1) who thinks the gay lifestyle is a right they should have, and that abortions on demand are just hunky dorey. On the weekend, some of these so-called Christians I know do and say things that are VERY unchristian-like. That's what I mean by some are Christian and some are not.
Gunlock Bill writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 5:50 PM
Laura
It is interesting that you have so much vitriol for Romney for supposedly lying and yet are a Huckabigot.

Huck caught lying!

http://arkjournal.com/2007/11/video-watch-it-here-first-lat est-ad.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUYLkYF3MMA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYrGlfkvRV0

Where is your vitriol for Huckabee the liar?
Gunlock Bill writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 5:54 PM
A joke?
Well, I guess we have come to expect such tasteless humor from the Huckster.

The implication of his "joke" was that had Palin been vetted, McCain wouldn't have picked her, because she was unqualified.

But being a huckabigot you wouldn't see that would you?
mikwcas writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 6:04 PM
huck will run again
in 12 and he should do much better the next go around. Many of the christian organizations that failed to endorse him early will not make the same mistake again. like him or not he will be one of the strongest contenders for the nomination, many people simply will not wait and let the same thing happen as we got this year. check the article below out.

http://www.worldmag.com/articles/13894

and why is mikes "christianity" such a problem who among us is trying to elect Jesus? At least recognize that he is a good communicator and likable with a very good grasp of issues that concern many of us.

concerning mitt/huck either we all need to drop this crap and let the guy who gets the most votes win and accept it or we need to stay away from both men. this fight has gone on too long and is honestly getting a bit tiresome. I WILL VOTE FOR ROMNEY if neccesity determines me to do so. So what if he attacks someone i may happen to like more in the primary. That is good that means he can attack and fight against the real opponent the democrat nominee.
Rush Conservative for Huck/2012 writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 6:05 PM
So called fiscal conservatives
You northeast moderate "conservatives" need to get over your hate of all things evangelical and southern and socially conservative.

Huckabee has been a consistent conservative. Period.

Romney, while a conservative now, has on numerous occasions, voiced his support for special rights for gays, proudly proclaimed his dissapproval of Reagan, initiated state mandated health care, Raised taxes, oh I'm sorry, they were "fees", proudly proclaimed that he was pro-choice.

When did his conservative epiphany occur? in the 2 years before he decided to run for president.

Huck is settling a score. Romney attacked Huck as unconservative with millions af half-truths and deceptions. And Romney still couldn't defeat Huck in Iowa.

You Romeny supporters need to get over it. Your guy is a Northeastern moderate with more in common with Ted Kennedy than Ronald Reagan.
Gunlock Bill writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 6:12 PM
Huckaphony
liked even less than goober Lindsay Grahamnesty. LOL!!

http://rightwingnews.com/mt331/2008/11/rightofcenter_blogge rs_select_9.php

Gunlock Bill writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 6:19 PM
Huckaphony a fiscal conservative?
NOT!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pLOC4krZI4

There is a word for someone who condemns another for something they themselves are guilty of. It starts with an "H" I think.

Oh. . . what is it?
Jane the Wife and Mom writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 6:21 PM
Laura
You personally 'know' mormons? Really? Can you name them? You seem like the type that will cross the street, holding her bible close if 2 LDS missionaries walk by. Were you even aware that the bulk of the money to help prop 8 in CA came from rank and file LDS members? Were you also aware that the LDS church is taking the hits, while the so called 'christian' churches are hiding behind the LDS skirts, because they don't want to get hit by the gays. Were you aware there are less abortions in Utah than in Alaska? (could it be family values thing?) Were you also aware that Mormons ARE christians in the purest sense. They are followers of Christ, and the Origial church he established, then re established PERSONALLY on this earth? Of course you were. But you don't want to see the good and truth. You want to find the bad, and there just is not any. I know. I looked too, and then found the truth folks like you were hiding from me. Found it, and love it.
Gunlock Bill writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 6:23 PM
LOL!!!
Nothing like a little prevarication is there?

"Romney attacked Huck as unconservative with millions af half-truths and deceptions."

Since Huckaphony is unconservative, how could accusing him of being unconservative be "half-truths" and "deceptions"?

"Millions"? Are you sure it was that few? LOL!!
Stoic Patriot writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 6:25 PM
Ah yes
The NAALDS Mittwits are out in force again. Get over it. People didn't take to Romney because of his lying about his dad and MLK Jr, his past support of Roe v Wade, his tacit consent to the gay marriage decision of Massachusetts, his bragging about gun restrictions, and his smacks-of-phony commentary about pulling off to the side of the road when blacks were accepted by the Mormon church. A business elitist with at best questionable social conservative credentials who has chosen to ignore the destructive nature of US trade policy *cough*China*cough* doesn't resonate in the heartland. It had nothing to do with his faith, and playing the "bigot" card is as sad as when Obama played the race card during the election.

Ditto on what RushConservative said. I'm an atheist, but last I checked nothing in Christianity said forgiveness had to be granted until restitution was made, and Huckabee is not a doormat for Romney and his supporters to walk all over.

Mike Huckabee for President in 2012! Good luck Huck!
mikwcas writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 6:31 PM
sad mistake
http://www.worldmag.com/articles/13894.html
mikwcas writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 6:32 PM
sad mistake pt2
can someone help me with inserting a link...like how in the heck do you do it?

http://www.worldmag.com/articles/13894

thanks
Rush Conservative for Huck/2012 writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 6:34 PM
Romney Supporters
You make a mistake to keep bringing Mormonism into this. This is about ideas and conservatism.

Not religious peccadillos.

Romney is a johnny-come-lately conservative.

You excoriate Huck for his supposed lack of conservatism and you give Romney a pass for his obvious sudden metamorphosis into the Rockefeller republicans favorite guy.

Get over yourself, get over the defeat and start debating the ideas that will bring back the principles you say you espouse.
Gunlock Bill writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 6:37 PM
Stoic Patriot
I guess reading all of the posts before making stupid comments is beneath you, right?

One more time, since you missed it.

http://occidentalvalues.blogspot.com/2007/12/george-romney- and-martin-luther-king.html

Gunlock Bill writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 6:44 PM
Ah yes!
the old Huckphony is a conservative mime!

LOL!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acwKStKQXGU
Gunlock Bill writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 6:45 PM
Rush Conservative NOT!!!
"Get over yourself, get over the defeat and start debating the ideas that will bring back the principles you say you espouse."

You mean like Huckaphony does in his new book?

LOL!!!
Laura writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 6:48 PM
Jane
Of course I actually know them, and I can actually name them. However, even if I did it would do you no good, as you don't even know where I live much less who I would be talking about - so that is a childish request.

And I know and admire what the church has done for the prop 8 problem, but I am talking about a FEW people, as I said. Perhaps you should read my posts a little more thoroughly before calling me out.
Stoic Patriot writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 6:53 PM
GBill
I guess making intelligent comments is beneath you. What you posted refutes nothing I said, including about Romney's claims concerning his dad and MLK Jr. They never marched together, and Romney's own campaign said after the claim that it was to be taken as a metaphor.

http://www.bloggernews.net/112537
Gunlock Bill writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 6:56 PM
Stoic Patriot
". . . his tacit consent to the gay marriage decision of Massachusetts . . . "

I suppose Governors can ignore the laws they disagree with, eh?

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/25/huckabee-romney-shoul d-have-ignored-the-massachusetts-supreme-courts-ruling-on-g ay-marriage/comment-page-2/#comments
Gunlock Bill writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 6:58 PM
Stoic Patriot
What part of "Not having after hours access to libraries or archives, and just using google I have found three books, here, here, and here that state that the two did march together (and that's not counting David Broder's book, written four decades ago which would be number four!)"

Don't you understand?
Jane the Wife and Mom writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 7:03 PM
Laura
I have been lurking for a few weeks now, and I am calling you out! I do not feel you know any LDS people. I know you do not respect the LDS church - I have seen some of your posts.
Stoic Patriot writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 7:08 PM
GBill
Gay marriage was not a *law* in Massachusetts. It was a court decision. Court decisions are not. They are *INTERPRETATIONS* of the law. And yes, Governors can ignore them.

Ever recall Andrew Jackson's quote of "Now let him enforce it" pertaining to the Marshall court?

MLK Jr's own library had no record of him being at Grosse Pointe, and Romney's own campaign backing off the claim and saying it was figurative is quite telling.
Alex 1 writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 7:10 PM
I guess Huckabee doesn't want...
...me in the party. I am a fiscal as well as a social and national defense conservative and I get sick of politicians trying to appear generous and kind with other people's money. If the poor are to be helped, I will do it with my own money. The government cannot, does not now, nor ever will make anybody compassionate by redistribution--ever.

In short, the government can't save you. I don't want Huckabee or any politician to donate my money for me by force to publicly spend it to be seen of men and buy up votes. That is what Obama seems all too happy to do. Huckabee seems all too infatuated with this notion of "doing good" with other people's money. Heck with corporate greed. I am sick of government greed. At least corporations produce a product.
Gunlock Bill writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 7:15 PM
Stoic Patriot
I suppose Andrew Jackson is a good example to all executives right?

Then why did Huckaphony lie about being forced to raise taxes because of a state court decision?

Why didn't he just ignore it? (I mean if he really is a fiscal conservative and all)?
Gunlock Bill writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 7:18 PM
Alex 1
They call it "christian socialism". And it is WRONG!!!
rjs46 writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 7:21 PM
Huckabee is a traitor to conservatism
Huckster is a childish and an embarrassment to conservatism and Christianity. He played pawn to McCain by stopping Romney in the primaries and inciting Christian (evangelical) against Christian (LDS) bigotry dividing the conservatives in the Republican party. He either knew that he was destroying the conservative push (maliciously) or was so diluted that he thought he genuinely had a chance to play some role in McCain's administration. Either way he does not deserve to ever play a role nationally in the Republican party.

Lynn writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 7:32 PM
Pathetic Huckabee
It has been very obvious from the beginning that Huckabee has suffered from a severe inferiority complex when it comes to Romney. I guess he looks at his education and economic credentials and knows that he could never meaure up. Isn't it ironic that the so-called "real Christian" continues attacks even after the election is over? I certainly hope his TV show fails soon and he slinks back to Arkansas and gets off the national stage. He gives Republicans a bad name.
Stoic Patriot writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 7:38 PM
GBill
The real question is what the substance of the law was in regards to Huck's case. I haven't seen anyone claim that Huckabee would have still upheld the law had he acted otherwise.

Regardless, while I do give you credit for comparing court-decision to court-decision, in terms of substantive importance the two issues aren't even close. Mitt has to come through on the big issues, and MA is the enabling catalyst for why we see the massive protests and abuse of private citizens by the gay lobby we do today.

As for the books, yes, you found some books that support Romney's original claim. Now tell me why the town's historical society denies it, and why Romney's own camp went back on what it had originally said, and instead said to take what it said figuratively.

Either George Romney was there or wasn't there. Either MLK Jr was there or wasn't there. And either Mitt Romney was there or wasn't there. If we're to believe Romney, isn't there even a photo of the day in question?
Stoic Patriot writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 7:41 PM
A second point on fiscal conservatism
GBill, I'd also like to raise another question concerning fiscal conservatism. What do you consider the central tenet of fiscal conservatism?

1.) Lower taxes

Or

2.) Balance the budget
Alex 1 writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 7:46 PM
Gunlock Bill
"They call it "christian socialism". And it is WRONG!!!"

Not only that, it is oxymoronic. It is like saying "Christian Satanism". All of that we read about in the New Testament about the early saints having all things in common and helping the poor was NOT done by government force. It was not socialism. There NEVER was righteousness in government confiscation and redistribution.
Big G writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 7:54 PM
Huck on Romney


Im not going to show the country my attack add directed at Mitt Romney because after pondering about it and praying about it, I can show it to the media who will then show it to the country for free, then I can make money after the primaries by writing a book about how I dont like Romney or the Christians that didnt pray about voting for a real Christian like me.

That way I can keep apealing to my base rather than Americans and I can continue to make money off themn while trying to stay relevant to the disscussion, kind of like the "reverend" Al Sharpton.

PS
If anyone tries to tell you how to fly the rebel flag, tell em I said it was ok to tell em to stick it where the sun dont shine.
Jane the Wife and Mom writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 7:57 PM
Huck a true christian?
I am ever so glad I never paid him to be my preacher. What a waste Huck is. He is so consumed with Romney, it will kill him. So what if Romney has a better family, better job, better rep, better everything? Big whoop. Get over it.
The Plumber writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 8:03 PM
Stoic
3) Small government. Very small government.
Big G writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 8:13 PM
Congratulations Huck, You have arrived


With your new book and your new show on FOX you're now an official member of the "chattering class".
Zak writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 8:34 PM
Laura the Huckbot
Can you read? I don't have to name the conservative Christian leaders who don't like Huck. Huck has said it in his book. Didn't you read the article above? He is telling us what we already knew. Conservative Christian leaders don't like him.

You're right on this though. He won't run in 2012 cause Palin will kick his butt. So he can go ahead and tell jokes about Palin or put David Letterman clips mocking Palin on his show, but she's gonna kick his butt. He's an ugly man with an ugly personality.
KillerKonservative writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 8:36 PM
Mike...
We just got steamrolled because we nominated the object of your unmitigated butt-kissing. There are a LOT of angry Conservatives out there. I wouldn't draw attention to myself just yet if I were you. Go chew on a squirrel with Chuck Norris and whine about Bush's arrogant bunker mentality.
Laura writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 9:33 PM
Jane!
WHAT PART OF "THIS TIME," I AM REFERRING TO 'CERTAIN' MORMONS, AND NOT THE WHOLE DAMM MORMON ORGANIZATION?!

And the names are George Mason, Eddie Haskell, Earl Wilson, Carla Goodhue, Norman Huffington, Stacey Kirkland, Thomas Dooley, Warren Bishop.
Satisfied. I won't include their phone numbers or addresses if that's all right with you.
Laura writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 9:36 PM
ZAK, you're the ugly man with
the ugly personality. You also sound like a close minded, Bigot jerk. think what you will and I will think what I will, nuff said?
Loyaltee writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 9:46 PM
Huck is a Divider
By continually criticizing his former primary rivals, Mike Huckabee reveals his true colors. He is a petty, vindictive, self-serving man. You don't see Mitt Romney going around talking trash about Huckabee, which he could easily do if he wanted (anyone remember the back room dealing Huck and Mac did to cut down Romney in West Virginia).

The fact is, Mike Huckabee is a sore loser and in a time when the GOP needs to heal and unite, he intentionally divides the party and cuts down upstanding party people like Romney and Thompson. I'm disappointed in you Huck, for mud slinging like this. But then again, I shouldn't have expected anything different. You're still the same silver- tongued charlatan we saw in the primaries.
Trampling out the vintage writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 10:34 PM
Loyaltee, I can't forget WV.
This was the ultimate show of two guys that are similar cutting down someone different. Huck and Mac are VERY similar. Romney is more of a true conservative and WV showed me how ugly politics can be. Words really can't express my disappointment and disgust. Romney won the first caucus, but didn't get 50%. However, WV was not Hucks fault, it was Mac that moved his people in the 2nd caucus to Huck in order to beat Romney. I see NO distinction between Huck and Mac. Why would we even want Huck to run in 2012? It would be a repeat of 2008.
Xine writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 10:57 PM
Oh pulease
Huckabee is a vindictive, petty man.
QuestionCW writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 11:15 PM
Mike is right
He nails Romney as a johnny-come-lately to conservatism, and frankly his best line was earlier this year when he said Romney "didn't hit political puberty in the conservative ranks until 60 years old."

As for calling Fred Thompson's campaign "amazingly lackluster" -- does anyone really disagree? I thought Thompson was campaigning for a role in a "Weekend at Bernie's" remake.

Mike would have had far more credibility on the economy that McCain, Obama or Romney. He didn't run roughshod over lower-income families just to appease twerps like the Club for Greed. He had many more years of executive experience than McCain or Obama. And he wouldn't have had to explain how many houses he owned unlike McCain or Romney.

This primary exposed a number of greedy charlatans: Hagee, Robertson, Limbaugh, Hannity... Frankly, I'm glad THEIR candidates lost.
AmericanWoman writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 11:27 PM
What Huckabee has been doing to Romney
isn't about politics or Christianity. It's a sin.
Zak writes: Monday, November, 17, 2008 11:45 PM
Laura you make me laugh.
I am honored with your insults. You huckbots are a pathetic bunch. (I feel like I've been savaged by a dead sheep.)
Spiceman0 writes: Tuesday, November, 18, 2008 5:49 AM
Gov Mike Huckabee The Green Eye Monster?
The weak use divisive means. The ignorant only see opposition as an obstacle.

Huckabee is a talented man no doubt, and I respect him for his gifts. It disappoints me that he feels that the only way he can win is to focus on smearing one of God's greatest creations.

Is this how Huckabee's brand of Christianity glorifies his maker, or does he feel that by disparaging others we will think more highly of him. Christ put it this way, that the greatest will be the servant, and the least of all.

Gov. Mike Huckabee, I am a Christian frequently labeled a Mormon. I respect your choice of faith, and hope one day you will realize that we are our own best friend and worst enemy, until we learn to live as Christ taught.

"Love your enemies. Pray for those who despitefully use you. Overcome evil with Good, and the peacemakers will be called the children of God."

Before Gov. Mitt Romney was in politics he believed, abortions should be rare and only if mother's life was at risk, for incest, or rape.

Running for Governor he promised two things, "I will leave the law on abortion as it is." He affirmed that he would treat homosexuals better then Teddy Kennedy. He kept his word, the law remained the same and was fair with homosexuals.

He was never Pro Choice at any time so when he opposed stem cell research he did so as a humanitarian, in 2005. He had not decided to run for the POTUSA. Christmas 2006, Mitt discussed it with his family, and they all agreed it would be a good way to serve their country. He announced his bid Feb. 2007

Mitt epitomizes the conservative principles, and has a model family, successful in business and solving tough problems. He does not use the issue of religion against anyone. Mitt will serve America however, where ever and when ever the opportunity permits. That is the spirit of Christianity, which only the worldly would mock.
james beam writes: Tuesday, November, 18, 2008 8:32 AM
looks like mike nailed it
i can't disagree with anything he said . yes romney will say anything to get in office, no he is not a conservitive i love fred but his campaign sucked .pat robertson and a lot of the evangelical "leaders "need to get back to preaching the gospel .they could start with a certain cult in in salt lake. as for club for growth ,i like tax cuts as well as anybody ,unfortunatly sometimes you have to pay some to get things done the discussion needs to be what can we cut and what is the legetimate role of gov in todays society and how as conservitives we can influence or shape policy.
the real cactushead writes: Tuesday, November, 18, 2008 11:56 AM
huck the delusional clown
the fool knows he can't win so he attacks romney who is not only the better candidate but also more savvy than the clueless huck

then old huck helps the nyt's favorite rhino, mccain get the nomination. But mccain fails to connect with the repubs, lacks a coherent message and expects others to fight his battles so that he can act the gentleman while b eing savaged by the messiah's acolytes and koolaide drinkers

Now mccain has shifted his affections and has quite servicing old swimmer kennedy and shifted his affections to the messiah.

until the repubs can fully rid themselves of the rhinos and dim lites they will continue to lose.
Perhaps with some changes in the rnc and repubs taking a stand against the coming socialism of b hussein obamarxist we will find leaders to rally behind.

despite dims calls for unity, repubs need to fully engage the dims and go after every wasteful program they propose as well as all their broken promises.

It is better the dims fail to keep their promises but it is also necessary to show the trolls they voted for a clueless clown and kept the red nazi and land deal in power.

The fight for 2012 begins now
Lori writes: Tuesday, November, 18, 2008 2:15 PM
Just don't buy his book!
It will only encourage that vindictive thin-skinned hypocrite. The campaign is over.

Aaron writes: Tuesday, November, 18, 2008 2:22 PM
cult in salt lake
what cult is there in salt lake?
eddie too writes: Tuesday, November, 18, 2008 2:34 PM
Thank God for leaders like

Governors Huckabee and Palin. With prayer and hardwork, one of them will become POTUS in 2012.

Anti-christian bigots will not be able to stop them.
eddie too writes: Tuesday, November, 18, 2008 2:39 PM
God bless Governors Huckabee

and Palin. The United States needs more people like them.
WAY Down South writes: Tuesday, November, 18, 2008 2:40 PM
Is Elmer Gantry Serious?
He’s outraged because he didn’t get a phone call?

Someone please tell me Huckabee is joking.



Rush Conservative for Huck/2012 writes: Tuesday, November, 18, 2008 2:43 PM
Spice guy
"Running for Governor he promised two things, "I will leave the law on abortion as it is." He affirmed that he would treat homosexuals better then Teddy Kennedy. He kept his word, the law remained the same and was fair with homosexuals.

He was never Pro Choice at any time so when he opposed stem cell research he did so as a humanitarian, in 2005. He had not decided to run for the POTUSA. Christmas 2006, Mitt discussed it with his family, and they all agreed it would be a good way to serve their country. He announced his bid Feb. 2007"

The logical falaccies in these two paragraphs are legion, to say nothing of the rest of the post.

One example

"Running for Governor he promised two things, "I will leave the law on abortion as it is."

He was never Pro Choice at any time

Just a factsent out to you spicy, Romney admitted he was effectively pro-choice, and personally against abortion, just like Bill Clinton and millions of other pro-choicers

You misquote romney on the homosexual issue, He said he would do more for the gay lobby than Teddy Kennedy. and he did. You need to research what happened with the gay marriage issue, Romney treated a judicial fiat like it was law and told clerks that if you don't process the gay marriage applications, you need to look for work elsewhere.

You are kidding about the timeline, right. In the two years before he ran for president, Romeny suddenly became pro-life, pro-border enforcement, against gay marriage, while at the same time endorsing and passing a state mandated and controlled helath care scheme. A scheme which he is now surprised that democrats in Mass. have expanded.

I understant you have questions about Huck's conservatism, I have asked them, researched them and found his approach to be conservative with few exceptions. I agree, Romney is now a conservative, but stop with this high and mighty rhetoric that he is a "pure" conservative.
MuscleDaddy writes: Tuesday, November, 18, 2008 4:13 PM
Huckabee...
...is a charlatan, a snake-oil-salesman, a small-man, a flim-flam artist and a shallow, self-involved rank opportunist - still trying to dupe people with his 'travelling salvation show'.

I *LOATHE* Obama - but it's plain that the Obama machine would have eaten Huck alive.

I'm not wild about Romney, but it's also plain to me that Romney would have done the ONE THING that McCain steadfastly refused to do...

Fight.

Thompson/Palin would have been a dream-ticket, but alas, Fred would obviously make a better President than presidential-candidate, so it was never to be.

Go away Huck - take your whining, finger-pointing, "if-only"-crying, "the-base-is-stupid"-asserting, sanctimonious attempts at establishing moral-superiority, And. Just. Go.

The grown-ups have work to do - and you're not helping.

- MuscleDaddy
eddie too writes: Tuesday, November, 18, 2008 4:33 PM
Governor Huckabee's supporters

have not and will not go away. We await word from him as to whether or not he intends to contend for the GOP nomination in 2012.

All of you who engage in character assassination can do nothing to stop him. We recognize you for what you are.
Gunlock Bill writes: Tuesday, November, 18, 2008 4:38 PM
ed2
"We await word from him . . . "

sycophant!!!
G writes: Tuesday, November, 18, 2008 4:43 PM
Just another loser
I'm not sure exactly what Huckabee hopes to acomplish with this book. He might be trying to stake out a claim to being the candidate of social conservatism. Whatever his purpose is he is just another clown from the the "big tent" circus of the 2008 campaign. Lets face it, with the sole exception of Tancredo none of them were conservatives. I don't know who will lead us out of the wilderness but it sure is heck is not one the idiots who led us in there in the first place. I also don't know about Palin, Jindal, and Steele. We know very little about these people and the hype around them stinks of liberal tendencies of pandering to women and minorities.
Jane the Wife and Mom writes: Tuesday, November, 18, 2008 5:21 PM
Eddie too
Why wait? he's made his intentins very clear. He's running. Jump on the bandwagon now. He'll be impolding quickly, and taking his bogus wannabe army with him.

By the way, hows the boyfriend? Still planning on going to CA to get married? I just wonder how a gay man squares with the huck a bigots of the world.
Rush Conservative for Huck/2012 writes: Tuesday, November, 18, 2008 5:23 PM
What don't you people understand?
We got our butts handed to us in this election.
Because we strayed from conservative principles.

Huck is primarily saying that in order to become viable again, we need to get back to the basics.

Less government intervention
Streamline and control what government intervention there already is,
Enact a fairer, FLATer tax code,
Stop the infanticide that is abortion,
Protect our constitutional rights, i.e. 2nd Amendment
Protect marriage
Protect America's interests, at home(build a dang fence already and put the National Guard on the border) and abroad

Why are these things so difficult for you to understand?
Jane the Wife and Mom writes: Tuesday, November, 18, 2008 5:23 PM
Aaron
Beats me what cult in Salt Lake. I guess it's like the cult in Santa Ana, CA? Saddleback? That cult? I don't recall them in SLC. So, I could have my cults mixed up.
Jane the Wife and Mom writes: Tuesday, November, 18, 2008 5:26 PM
Rushie
We got our butts handed to us because we had a demo lite and a airhead running. Very few trusted McCain and did not want someone so empty between the ears standing by 'just in case'. We wanted substance, and got koolaide.
Jane the Wife and Mom writes: Tuesday, November, 18, 2008 5:32 PM
Eddie Haskell?
You are not serious, right?
Laura writes: Tuesday, November, 18, 2008 6:10 PM
Yeah, Eddie Haskell! And he gets that
question all the time from idiots like you who can't understand that a lot of names are duplicated in this world. I should have known you'd pounce on that, but screw it! Also, did you know that everyone has a lookalike? Probably not!
Laura writes: Tuesday, November, 18, 2008 6:21 PM
Jane the Wife and Mom, you sound
an awfully lot like 'mytwocentsworth.'
Skulking is probably right, but to intimate that you're just now posting is not just a little hard to believe, it is downright UNbelievable! Save it for one of you Liberal conterparts, 'cause I ain't buyin' it!
Laura writes: Tuesday, November, 18, 2008 6:25 PM
Jane, you HAVE to be 2cents
you know too much about the Utah bunch!
james beam writes: Tuesday, November, 18, 2008 7:36 PM
jane or2cents
you know the mormon cult, founded by the criminal joe smith .the guy with a record of con jobs ,bank fraud and 30+ wives .
RickV404 writes: Tuesday, November, 18, 2008 8:02 PM
Huckabee is...
a Republican Huey Long. He'll never be president, fortunately.
james beam writes: Tuesday, November, 18, 2008 8:23 PM
huey long?
you really need to read your history.ideologically mikes much closer to reagan than any of the other republican canidates this year ,except for perhaps palin
TasmanianJedi writes: Wednesday, November, 19, 2008 12:18 AM
Gunlock Bill re. "Sarah watch out"
Watch it, there, you're gonna draw out all the Sarah haters from the Daily Kook, etc.

(Believe it, there's a cottage industry of Sarah-haters already like there's been of Huck-haters).

Why not Huck/Palin in '12? Or Romney/Huck? Or Palin/Romney? Palin is a female Huck, don't get to know her too much or you'll turn on her too.

But let's all get along better, kids.
Big T writes: Wednesday, November, 19, 2008 8:46 AM
Huckleberry is "Closer to Reagan" ?
Mike tries so hard to act relaxed, sweet, and well-intentioned, but allways plays the Rube. Reagan was no Rube.

Mike says "I don't take issue with what they believe, but the smugness with which they believe it" referring to conservatives who beleive in the constitution.

It is limp wristed social-cons like Mike, McCain, and Grahamnesty who have compromised away the Rebuplican brand.

Mike news flash there is no government program worth the betrayal of constitutional principles.

I hope your thirty pieces of silver, and your Fox News show are worth it everytime you throw the Republican brand under the bus.
Betsy writes: Wednesday, November, 19, 2008 8:47 AM
Huckabee's New Book
One thing many Americans fail to consider and thus are far too eager to condemn politicians who appear "negative" by "attacking" their opponents, is that wisdom dictates that the voting public know as much of the truth that is necessary to make wise decisions that affect the future of their country. I, for one, want to hear when a politician who is running for office is acting petty behind the scenes (as it appears from Huckabee's statement that Romney was)or when someone's associates over a long period of time hold beliefs that are radical to our nation's founding (as is the case of Obama); I don't consider it to be inappropriate at all and quite useful as I weigh everything that I hear and judge whether it is appropriate or not. Sometimes the truth needs to be told (McCain could have shared Obama's past -and present- relationships in a manner that made people really stop and consider what that might mean to our future as Americans; instead he "uncomfortably" mentioned it at the very last and failed to develop it in a manner that most voters could have understood as being extremely critical.) The attitude that one must focus only on one's platform is naive. Republicans have been mislead far too long in believing they have to play "Mr. Niceguy." I want fighters for the truth to represent me and if that fight involves exposing the behavior of another, then so be it; in the end, I alone, will be the jurist who decides whether the matter is relevant or not.
rdk writes: Wednesday, November, 19, 2008 9:26 AM
Real threat to Republican Party
Call him Huckabee.
I will call him Huckleberry.
Whatever he is called, he continues to spew his poisonous vindictive but calls it manna.
He is one bad fellow in nice guy clothing.
Himtngal writes: Wednesday, November, 19, 2008 4:13 PM
Guitar Playing Governor
Like him or not, former Governor Romney is a gentleman and does not promote rude, crude and non-amusing personal attacks such as those from Mike Huckabee in the promotion of his new book of tricks and slander. Huckabee is not to be trusted.

Further, "Huck" and the "Straight Talker" are now in the open about their mutual admiration society.

What's next for " Senator Straight Talk" and the "Guitar Playing Governor"? American voters will no longer tolerate and be forced to drink John McCain's and Mike Huckabee's political outhouse soup. Huckabee just wants to make a "buck" off the American people and FOX News is contributing to the attack monster by promoting his one hour amateur show and giving him air time. The guy's a joke. My dog plays better guitar.

Jan Herron

Gunlock Bill writes: Wednesday, November, 19, 2008 5:46 PM
So-Con Kenobi
I repent!!!

Huckabee really can be inspiring!!!

http://townhall.com/columnists/DouglasMacKinnon/2008/11/19/ huckabee_was_the_inspiration_for_the_twisted_character_in_m y_novel


bon appetit !!!
littlehouse writes: Wednesday, November, 19, 2008 10:26 PM
All About Huck
Although Mike Huckabee is a gifted speaker and great on social issues, it does seem that every interview/conversation comes back around to Huck and how cute he sounds. And, he has way too much class-envy to be a GOP contender. Fiscal conservatives can smell the rat in Huckabee from far away.
Kathy writes: Wednesday, November, 19, 2008 10:57 PM
Huck a clucking.
Conservatve christians were not fooled by Huck. And now he proves it.
Loyaltee writes: Wednesday, November, 19, 2008 11:32 PM
Huck Writes Own Epitaph
Huck just sealed his future political fate with this book. He's done. Dead. Gone from the national political scene forever. Nobody will forget the cheap shots he takes in his book. This guy's character sucks!

My favorite line:
"I asked if he had prayed about this and believed this was what the Lord wanted him to do."

What, is this man delusional? Is he implying that if the man prayed that God would surely reveal that Huck was the right person to endorse. Unfortunately, that is what Huck is implying. It's the same kind of BS he threw on the poor evangelicals in Iowa. God wants you to vote for me instead of "that Mormon" Mitt Romney. It's ignorant religious people like Huck that are responsible for ruining the GOP.
Laura writes: Thursday, November, 20, 2008 12:04 AM
Do you think the Media are a joke
when they expose undesirable tendancies of anyone in the Public Eye? Do you Huckabee Haters think the news anchors are wrong to expose that stuff, and should be called undesirable, demeaning and insulting names and attacked for it by you Liberal Pirahna? So what's the difference when Huckabee does it?

How many people, from all walks of life sit around the kitchen table, the water cooler at work, etc. and discuss all those things? Is that wrong? If it isn't, and it isn't wrong for news people to do it, why is it so bad when Huckabee does it? Does he not deserve an opinion because he ran for The Presidency? Do you not think all the rest of the candidates say unbecoming things about each other? If you do, you need to pull your head from your arse.

Oh I know what's next, you're gonna say, "but they don't write books about it!" What the hell difference does that make since you're NOT GOING TO BUY HIS BOOK ANYWAY?

Just shut your yap and be concerened with what is really going to matter in the next four years with the new President Elect---
who IS going to be this country's worst nightmare, GUARANFRICKINGTEED!
Laura writes: Thursday, November, 20, 2008 12:15 AM
Loyaltee: Ignorant religious people?
You libs put the 'I' in ignorant, you just voted for Hitler II didn't you?
my2centsplus writes: Thursday, November, 20, 2008 12:40 AM
Cimmie
ya, I guess that' why were growing faster than you are, right?
my2centsplus writes: Thursday, November, 20, 2008 12:46 AM
larua
Im not jane. Nice name, but not me. Sorry. As usual, you have your info all wrongo! A lot of folks know about the Utah bunch, as you call them. after all, we have something close to 13 million members - and not all here in Utah! Since the growth of the church is fast, it is very hard to know every member anymore. Were sort of spread out throughout the country and the world.

I do like what I read from Jane. She sounds like she might be another thorn in your bigtoed side.

Laura writes: Thursday, November, 20, 2008 1:06 AM
2cents: What's a bigtoed side?
Oh, and fungus grows quite rapidly too, but I don't want to get close to it.
Murphdog writes: Thursday, November, 20, 2008 10:52 PM
Huckaphoney
Huckafraud, Huckafake, Huckafalse, Huckaforged, Huckasham, Huckafaux, Huckabogus, Huckaersatz...and on and on.

Go back to the pulpit, fraudboy.

That one-two cheap shot they took at Romney in the primaries in Florida ("he said 'timeline'") disgusted me.

Oh...and that show he has on Fox is a bore.
Laura writes: Thursday, November, 20, 2008 11:54 PM
Murphdog, how do you Mormons keep
coming of the woodwork like you do? Just when I think I've read all the Mormon posts, there's a new one. Your deep, seething hatred for Huckabee is a sickness that should be addressed, and the sooner the better.

It's obvious you Mormons all hate him because he beat hell out of your God-Like Messiah, Romney (NOT) but suck it up and be a man and take it.

You should give Huckabee credit for having the balls to say all the things he does about all the people he discusses in his book. He isn't a phony baskstabbing two-faced hypocrit; he tells it like it is, and your man Mitt acts all goody two shoes while he lies through his smiles and you're just too damnned stupid to see the truth.
Hawk writes: Friday, November, 21, 2008 12:08 AM
Huckabee is a charlatan
Huckabee governed his state as a liberal and now he wants us to believe that he is the conservative standard bearer. There is no bigger flip-flopper than that skeevy creep Mike Huckabee. Huckabee's candidacy would be as doomed and disasterous as his buddy John McCain's was.
Clusiana writes: Friday, November, 21, 2008 11:21 AM
Hey Mike
Shut up.
BIGSKYER writes: Friday, November, 21, 2008 6:48 PM
Some observations!


Matt Lewis is a great instigator and loves to see the turmoil he creates on his blogs. ** He has Laura the "Huckster MOLL" in an absolute Christian frenzy! By the way Laura, don't you think Rev. Huck looks a lot like Gomer Pyle USMC? ( No insult intended to the Corps by the way)

White Salamander writes: "Just mention Huckabee and the Mormon cultists all come out of the woodwork". ***The Salamander doesn't mention though that Atheism is a cult and atheists are cultists too.

Glad to see so many of us "Mormon cultists" coming out of the woodwork defending our faith, ourselves, Mitt Romney and whats right for America. Don't be too hard on Huck and Laura though, as we don't want to be branded as "Non Christian"!

I used to be a defender and supporter of the Huckster, and I always knew he was Baptist and a Pastor, and it didn't matter, as I thought he would make a fine candidate, that is until he started pushing his anti-Mormon tripe in an effort to smear and sway voter opinion against Romney because he was Mormon. No more!

Huck's followers and others can bash us all they want for what we believe, and if they think by doing so we will leave, they are sadly mistaken. Uh, Laura, your ravings and rantings and hatred of Mormons will accomplish nothing, but tends to identify you as an extremely bitter person; perhaps you and the Huckster are cut from the same peace of cloth?

Some of my observations! "Who's on the Lord's side, who"?




james beam writes: Friday, November, 21, 2008 7:38 PM
2 cents and the rest of the romney
mittwuts ,plagues grow fast as well ,does not mean that it's a goog thing. so whats this about joe smith being bisexual? understand theres a new book coming out with a lot of new documents,this could be real interesting !!!!!
Loyaltee writes: Saturday, November, 22, 2008 3:45 AM
White Salamander C'mon Already
White Salamander, I'm concerned with your rants about Mormonism. I've watched your posts for some time now and find them ill-informed, illogical, and utterly tasteless. I'm sorry if you've been hurt by a Mormon or another religious person, but it's time for you to recognize that you need to broaden your views a bit and become more sensitive to people who believe differently than you do.
Salvatore writes: Saturday, November, 22, 2008 9:16 AM
TO MANY LIBERALS ON HERE.
To many Liberals on here,
making you think that they are conservatives against conservatives, wake up people.
Savage Alum writes: Sunday, November, 23, 2008 11:35 AM
White Salamander an "ID-10-T" Error
I am so glad the mormon bashers have so much to work from. Sadly for the "My God is better than your God" Chjristians, theycan't see passed the silliness of their own religious brainwashing and see the need to put up the best candidate for freedom, the Constitution, America, and capitalism. They (red WS and his lemmings)are as robotic a bunch of followers of Hucksterabee as the Obama crowd. The Corrupt bargain with McCain gave us Dole part two against a Manchurian candidate when a Thompson or Romney would have likely prevailed. I get it WS, you hate the fact that those wascowe mormons stood up for marriage where you were silent and you are a bit miffed and obviously impotent in the fight against the real evil. I would be miffed too if my only claim to any sort of Christianity were to shake down people for money and tell them they are going to Hell if they don't pay the Preacherman.

Next time save the hatemongering for the Demonrats so you can reclaim a smidgen of dignity and not be a tool of the left or just one more useful idiot of the lapdog press.
Big G writes: Sunday, November, 23, 2008 11:44 AM
Savage
Salamander is an apathetic agnostic atheist.

He loves bashing Mormons becasue he said he was treated badly by some Mormons at an ROTC training back in 1980.

The irony?

ALl the good Christian Huck supporters love his stuff, even praise him in his "quest" for truth.

They dont realize that he gets his material from sources that hate all religion just as much as Mormons.

They think that Bill Mauer's new movie is horrible how it depicts them, but spot when it comes to Mormons.

Too funny.
Big G writes: Sunday, November, 23, 2008 11:51 AM
White Salamander- THE DRIVE BY POSTER

"I have no problem with sincere people of faith. I do have a problem with people who think they need to impose their religious silliness on me or try to preach. Then I feel I have every right to mock them."

And yet no Mormon is imposing their religious silliness on you trying to preach to you.

Yet you freely mock, slander, and distort.

All because your feelings were hurt in 1980.

Your anger is with God, not Mormons.

Your unhealthy lifestyle,your parents death, your self touted darwinistic approach to life, your un belief,....has nothing to do with Mormons, your anger, your health issues, your failure to maintain employment all stem from your inability to overcome your anger.

Take your problems to the source.
Savage Alum writes: Sunday, November, 23, 2008 12:01 PM
WS the ID-10-T error (& corpsoflemmings)
I just scanned your last post where you exposed your SS side with the 9 iron threat just because you lack the itelligence and persuasive tools to logically defend your "point(s)" and garner a change of heart or position to what you blather on about.

Much like the Demonrats who use PC, policies, laws and lawsuits et al to force people to do as they wish, thinking they are (delusionally) above all others and are somehow destined for dictatorship.

Be very careful who you threaten. It is not uncommon for the internet bullies to be mice-like men or RINOs and they end up wearing that 9 iron as a neck tie when faced with a true man, assuming they ever have the courage to go toe to toe. Chihuahuas always initiate and talk at ough game. You initiated.

Laura writes: Sunday, November, 23, 2008 12:05 PM
Savage Alum: Boo Hoo poor little you!
You're a joke - crying about the Mormon bashers when you clearly bash ALL other religions yourself, and many of you on here have even said that you think yours is the only religion - a little like the pot calling the kettle black, no?

And speaking of brainwashing - what do you call believeing that God spoke to Joseph Smith and told him he could sneak around like a dirty fornicating coward and have himself some young, fresh, tender little wives on the side because he was special? And then when someone told on him, he allowed some of his closest followers to 'have' some extra wives too to salve things over? He was a lying, fornicating, two-faced hypocrit!

And how about the fact that he SAID he talked to an angel and found golden plates that told him how to run the religion? And how about the fact that they've never been seen by anyone since?

And how about you idiots believing you can be baptised for dead people who have sinned and it will wipe away all those sins? Talk about brainwashed...you guys are walking zombies.

It just kills me how some of you have posted about Huckabee making money for his speeches or for being a pastor, but you believed it was all right for Smith to live well, never wanting for anything, and it's all right for your organization to collect billions of dollars per year from it's congregation and build multi-billion dollar temples to worship Smith from while your President lives like a KING??!!!

You prejudiced, two faced self-righteous bigoted hypocrit, you are worse by far then any other religious group, so take your opinions and put them where the sun don't shine........if you know what I mean, and I'm sure you do!

Big G writes: Sunday, November, 23, 2008 12:08 PM
Savage
"Chihuahuas always initiate and talk at ough game. You initiated."


Spot on.

White Salamander said he'd break me in two, whip out his manhood, he was as healthy as a football player.


Big G writes: Sunday, November, 23, 2008 12:18 PM
Laura

Get a grip!

Are you religious?

If so, dont you find it odd and ironic that you take up with apathetic agnostic atheists to bash Mormons when they use the same tactics to bash all religions, what makes it right, what makes them spot on when discussing Mormons, but comletely false when discussing your religion?

IRONY!

Laura writes: Sunday, November, 23, 2008 12:48 PM
BigG: You help make my point that
none of you address the context of the posts.

Alum bashed Huck's religion and I bashed back. I have never heard a Mormon deny that they thought THEIR RELIGION was better than anyone elses!

And yes I am religious; my religion is not one of any particular demonination, rather a belief in God, and that Jesus died on the cross for our sins, and that we should be nice, kind, loving and forgiving of others. Now, the reason I am enraged is that since coming onto this site and reading all the anti-forgiving remarks of the Mormons who seems to have no tolerance of anyone except another Mormon, I am sisk of it and them period, end of sentence. From me they will get what they dish out, and as far as I'm concerned, they can all go to hades.
Big G writes: Sunday, November, 23, 2008 12:52 PM
Laura and White Salamander


IRONY!
DHulme writes: Sunday, November, 23, 2008 12:58 PM
Jerrel..........probably correct.....
regarding 2012 POTUS.

Romney, Thompson, Guiliani......Three LGBT Republicans that will never see the Presidency unless the social conservatives acquiesce to the socially liberal Republicans.......ain't gonna happen, get over it, find your place in the Democrat Party and get started debating with like minded social liberals with views differing on fiscal responsibility, national security, and limited government.

2012 Republican nominee

Bobby Jindal, Pres
Mitt Romney or Sarah Palin, VP

Legitimate social conservative and social liberal espousing conservative views

This ticket would have won in 2008 if the liberal RNC and RSCC had not controlled the purse. Perhaps they'll be luckier if they co-mingle their funds with the DNC.
Big G writes: Sunday, November, 23, 2008 1:25 PM
White Salamander- THE DRIVE BY POSTER

DRIVE BY POSTER, what do Catholics, Baptists, Atheists, agnostics, free-thinkers think of each other?

You do go on, dont you, but you have already stated that anyone who tries to make the Mormons look like fools are your hero.

Add the Gay activists to your hero list.

Seems like alot of religous people, including mormons, catholics, blacks, and latinos teamed
up against your heroes.

Savage Alum writes: Sunday, November, 23, 2008 1:34 PM
Laura & WS tools and ID-10-T errors
Ok for the sake of arguement let's say you are right. (Sense of humor) When exactly did God reveal all truth and knowledge to you?

Be it Constantine, Luther, Wesley, Calvin, Williams, Smith, Graham, Roberts, etc... you make the point that those with bluster over brains always want to talk smack about someone else's version of religious understanding and definition of God.

If someone fails to do it YOUR way oh alpha and omega one (in your own mind that is) they are evil. Ever thought that God might be willing to accept anyone who believes in his name & might actually account for the supposed error of nuance mistaken one who believe in God and Christ but are just a little bit "sinful" by not having it completely right? If you do not then you can't claim Christ as your savior, because per you, Christ requires only coming unto him.

You Laura, might want to sand down the splinters on your broomstick (Some humor for WS) so you aren't so damned hemmoroidally itchy.

Besides, who but the moromons taches that all of God's children will go to some sort of Kingdom in Heaven and only those that have joined Satan will go to hell? I'm sure you will want to take Christ's place and do the judging for Him so say I am in cahoots with satan, but even you can't possibly believe that Christ gave you his throne and power to judge another in the heavens.

You're just so full of toxins, misinformation and self-congratulations that you can't see straight. Again, save it for the Demonrats.

Laura writes: Sunday, November, 23, 2008 1:55 PM
Savage Alum
Once again you make my point that you are nothing but an argumentative idiot.
Savage Alum writes: Sunday, November, 23, 2008 2:03 PM
Hey Laura and WS
I know you are taxed to understand the references to Calvin, Constantine, Luther, Williams, Wesley etc.

They are all the founders of their version of the Church that Christ formed.

Catholics started around 330 ad
Episcopalians 1534
Lutherans 1517
Presbeterians 1560
Baptists 1609
Southern Baptists 1845
Methodists 1739
Unitarian 1825
7th Day Adventists 1863
Churches of Christ 1906


I can go on for a long time. And they all had their own, shall we say "Scarlet Letter" pasts. But so that I understand, which version of Christ, Christianity and the Bible am I supposed to follow oh self-annointed Preacher of all truth?

Maybe it is like wine, I just need to pick a good year?

Maybe it's the one who promises me the most goodies...Oh wait a minute, that's the Demonrats..Are you a Demonrat?

Maybe it is the one from my region of the country?

I do know one thing, per you it is NOT the one that I pray to God directly himself and ask which one He prefers, I am supposed to pick the one Laura prefers. So which is it?

Please speak down to us your highness, La Senora de la Chihuahua...we are all awaiting your "divine" interpretations.

This is too much fun for a Sunday Morning when we can bash the people that need it on the left, but since Laura and WS would rather talk about their Divinity than fight against the Dems and the forthcoming Facsists, well I guess you will do to keep this ping pong game going.
Laura writes: Sunday, November, 23, 2008 2:11 PM
Alum, you're wasting your time
I will not read your tripe anymore - I didn't read this last one you took so long to write. Don't wase any more of your time, I'm leaving this subject........bye!!
Savage Alum writes: Sunday, November, 23, 2008 2:34 PM
"Laura" This little piggie wah wah wah..
Ouch, 8 minutes to post....

Taking your ball and going home? How proof positive that you are La Senora de la Chihuahua.

Next time you need to follow Olberman a little better.

You never call someone just "arguementative", you are supposed to call me mean-spirited and a racist homophobe too. You need to do a better job of reading up on your talking points.

Big G writes: Sunday, November, 23, 2008 5:58 PM
White Salamander- THE DRIVE BY POSTER
"I'm kind of sorry that your Church is so Homophobic, especially since there was so much evidence Joseph Smith was bisexual."


Don't let research get in the way of false acusations.



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SALT LAKE CITY 16 October 2008 These pages will help the news media, the public and Church members better understand The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints’ involvement in supporting Proposition 8.

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mutunte writes: Monday, November, 24, 2008 4:57 AM
white salamander the 'enlightened'
reptile. You are one truly confused individual. Nga fohs ke ma kom fahk an. I hate to see the rest of the stuff you have in that reptilian brain of yours. I'm just kidding. You have lots of information that are not very useful. Oh wait you have concerns about the economy. Maybe you should go to the media and let them know what you have. It's all in good fun. Aloha bruddah!
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