Wednesday, September 10, 2008
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The McCain-Palin Surge
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Posted by:
Hugh Hewitt at
7:03 PM
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John McCain has now moved ahead in New Mexico, more evidence of an across the board shift towards McCain-Palin that has panicked the Dems and sent Obama-Biden into a spin cycle that sees gaffe follow gaffe. Now the Dalibama has had to spend two days first attacking Palin and then defending his slam at Sarah Palin as a pig by denying that's what he meant, though everyone in his audience and across the country instantly knew that is exactly what he meant. His refusal to own his blunder is not going to help him in the last with the independents and Hillary Dems he had already angered via his campaign's abetting of the first wave of attacks on Palin.
Jennifer Rubin analyzes this trend, but the real story isn't a trend, it is the panic among the Dems. The shallowness of their nominee, the thinness of his resume and the dodges he is obliged to make again and again about his friends and associates has embedded a new image of Obama deep in the public's perception, and it isn't a flattering one.
UPDATE: Politico notices the panic in Democratic circles.
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The dems are self-destructing. They aren't very good at being on the defensive, yet can't seem to find their stride.
IMPLODE!
It's all slipping away.......
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A lot of guys are saying the pig story has been overblown, and they make some good points... but they are missing something big.
For starters, any woman who has had a sister, daughter, or friend called that epitaph will have a much more emotionally powerful reaction to the word than most men will grasp. And, while Senator Obama can say he was not intending to direct the comment towards Governor Palin, the reaction of the crowd tells anyone who is not socially tone deaf that the Senator was indulging in a bit of mischief. Of course, politics often gets far more nasty than this. There is, however, a second shoe to consider.
Obama's answer to his short resume has been to claim great judgment and to promise to change ugly politics and government. This bit of mischief appears small to some, but in the Trent Lott era of political correctness it was also both petty and stupid. This incident undermines his twin pillars of judgment and change. But wait, it gets worse.
Since Palin's introduction, Obama's campaign has had a huge problem. By picking Biden over Hillary, Obama's only executive decision since choosing which college to attend was, in addition to being an anti-change good ol boy, both petty and stupid.
Because the lipstick kafuffle revolves around Palin, it reminds everyone that Hillary was the right choice but Obama fumbled because of a grudge. Bottom line: Lipstick re-enforces the consequences of the Biden mistake.
If Senator Obama's judgment is this bad at 3 PM, do we really want to find out what he might do at 3 AM? |
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The incessant conservative whining is wearing a bit thin.
Are you going to get the vapors every day about some imagined offense?
Why are you so focused on playing gotcha? Why will Republicans not discuss the issues?
Why won't Palin give back the money the feds gave her for the bridge to nowhere? |
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Barry playing defense,
Carol Fowler making insane comments about abortions,
Steve Cohen making more insane comments about Jesus & Potius Pilate,
All the MSM talking about Lipstick,
Man this has been a good day! |
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It doesn't matter how you meant it, back off, explain yourself, apologise to everyone if they were offended and move on to the issues.
Politically he played this one with ultimate arrogance. He was right and he didn't care. I totally enjoyed seeing him a bit humbled. Happy gaffing! Only 54 more days BO and Joe.
I don't recall a Presidential pair like BO and Joe state so many gaffes in so short of a time period. It really is amazing. McCain has absolutely taken control. Can he maintain it? I think so. |
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Was I whining? I thought I made a point or two. |
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Your rhetorical questions are going to hurt your last two brain cells. It's painful to watch such self destruction... actually it's not. Stay here and keep posting, we need a whipping boy. |
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And so are a lot of his supporters on the left.
The fact that there is an undercurrent of disapproval from key elder stateswomen on the left- Ferraro, Kristin Powers (okay, she's not exactly an "elder"), Susan Estrich etc. kinda bears that out, IMO.
I am not counting my chickens yet, but I would not be surprise if Obama and Biden take a huge dive in November. |
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I need to check my calendar.
It MUST be Christmas because Santa brought the RNC so many presents today.
And the Democrats all over the USA didn't get anything either. Too Bad.
Oh man, you just gotta love it! |
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I love the 3pm vs. 3am comment at the end. And you are absolutely right. It seems their guy can't take the heat unless everyone loves him and agrees with him. It seems to me Obama has been fairly spoiled these last few years into thinking he's "all that." I guess it took Sarah Palin to feed him a little reality syrup. McCain, who was NOT my guy originally, sure is looking good and presidential. Obama and his cronies??? more like whining boobs. |
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What? Are nutz? Deaf? That isn't whining you hear. It's Pubs laughing over Obama's gaffing--all the way to the White House. |
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That's sixteen consecutive states that have moved in an R direction. The last time a state moved in a D direction was SD on July 14, and it's now flipped back in an R direction |
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It's not about Obama at this point, it's about Palin's GOP/rightwing religious nazi manufactured "aura". Check back in a few weeks when the dust has settled around the sham that is the PALIN/mccain ticket and we'll talk. By then, the entire country should be up to speed on the Lying Lipstick on a Pig campaign. |
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Hearing Joe Biden saying that he thinks Hillary is a good friend and would have been a better choice than him for VP in a sound bite on Hugh's show earlier makes me wonder what is going to happen next. After the Lipstick comment, the Democratic party must look for a major turn to bring the momentum back. Is Joe Biden setting up a change of the ticket so that Obama can bring Hillary on board to help the ticket win? That would make a lot of sense if Hillary would go with that plan but I would suspect that she would hold out and wait to run for President in four years. Avoiding a tie to Obama is probably in Hillary's best interest right now. Still, after hearing Biden being so clear that Hillary would have been a better choice for VP in a sound bite makes me think that something might be on the table. I do admire Joe Biden for at least being honest about saying that Hillary should have been their choice. Doesn't that make you wonder? |
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Michael writes:
"The 2nd shoe.."
Michael, this is some of the finest writing I have read on this and a lot of other sites -- including those who originally post the subject of a blog.
I would be greatly obliged to you if you would writer considerably more; it is very enjoyable reading.
Thank you.
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Have you all heard Biden's quote that he thinks Hillary would have been a better VP choice? Oh man. Talk about a perfect storm of incompetence from the D ticket. |
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I am so sick of hearing about Gov. Palin: Yes, she is a terrific pick, an awesome person, and any of a million adjectives to be used. But enough is enough.
McCain and Obama know there is an energy crisis; so what do each of them propose to solve the problem, not just in the future, but short term as well.
Obama says that there is a problem with education; how does he propose to deal with it?
It seems to me that Hugh Hewitt has fallen into the trap of the non-sensical/no-news that he once condemned. How dissapointing.... |
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. . . we do love a good laugh at your expense. . .. Nobody's buying it honey. . . . nobody. Not even you. Go have a hot bath and a good book. It'll be over in a few weeks. |
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version of stern-finger wagging. Skerry, Dude.
Hands on hips and Mister Scowly Face. Boy, doggoned serious this time. Kind of reminds me of the faux tantrums our light of feet hairdressers on a given film set stage! Vapors, vapors, vapors.
This is really becoming skin crawly cartoon time. The Slick-Kid should NOT try Alpha Male! Leave that for Ol'Grumpy, Kiddo. Trust me. |
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http://www.heritage.org/Press/Commentary/ed061907b.cfm |
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. . . I think we are fast approaching the point of no return for Obama/Biden, and the only thing that will pull this out for him is Obama/Hillary. Is he going to just bite the bullet and go down with the Obama/Biden ship?? or is he gonna ditch Biden and hope Americans will get on his new Obama/Hillary bus. Hmmm....... |
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...is the Alpha Female. She was able to dismiss Obama and his styrofoam pillars with the flick of her dainty hand. |
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Second pick as second fiddle? The mean, finger-wagging, old school feminist vs. the fresh, fun, fertile real female?
Now, wouldn't that be absolutely hillarious? |
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Remember all the supposed lines about "racism" during the primaries? Obama supporters seemed to find racism in every cliche' and descriptor of the Democrat Candidate.
BO says he is 'post-partisan' and pulls this stunt then immediately siezes the high ground and says the MP campaign is employing the politics of personal destruction, etc.
Phony is the correct word, Barak. Phony indeed.
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After the remark about Gov Palin being a pig, I remembered back several months ago when Obama was attacking Sen. Clinton and he scratches his face in a very telling way with his middle finger. The crowd assembled understood immediately what he was saying with his finger, just as the crowd knew what he was saying about pigs and lipstick. If you watch the video notice the two women in the background, one observed Obama's actions and has to explain it to her friend who then begins to laugh. I found the video clip on YOUTUBE under Obama Middle Finger. To say the least Obama is sexist, arrogant, rude and elitist. The bible says in:
Romans 12:3 For though the grace given to me I say to every man among you not to think more highly of himself than he ought to think, but to think so as to have sound judgment, as God has allocated to each a measure of faith.
If one is to stand both Presidential contenders up and use this verse as a measure of the man only one man meets the qualifications and its not Obama.
The link to the video is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peby3Kpa-Y4 |
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...to comment on "people who throw a rock and then hide their hand."
One word comes to mind: Unpresidential. |
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My 80 year old father, a life long yellow-dog democrat, declared today that he would be voting for McCain/Palin. His words, not mine, "I can't believe any fool would vote for Obama". He confessed he would have voted for Hillary and did so in the primary, but could not vote for Obama.
I have never been more elated, considering the heated discussion we have had over the years regarding politics. I wonder how many others are out there?
Cheers,
Don C |
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and it wouldn't be the first time, but I believe that the veep pick in both parties must be officially nominated and voted upon during the convention process. Accordingly, I think that Obumble is stuck with Slow Joe, for better or worse, sorta like a marriage of misfits. Besides, I don't think for a moment that Hillary would be foolish enough to join Obumble's ticket even if he were to beg on bended knee. After all, how many rats have been known to jump ABOARD a sinking ship? (not including Ravenhaired of course!) |
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I'd like to join a group blog, and I'm searching for an opening. In the meantime I just set up my own little blog with the only new post my attempt a writing a speech for Sarah. My "2nd Shoe" post is here as well:
http://wiz-ziw.blogspot.com/
Again, thank you for the kind words. |
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"It's about Palin's GOP/rightwing religious nazi manufactured 'aura'".
Yes, yes, dem leftists, keep letting the hate for Christians show. You'll be at your natural 20% share of the national vote in no time flat.
It's amazing how almost always when the mask is stripped off a leftist what shows is either rapid hatred of Christianity and Christians or deep personal immorality (or both).
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The Rookie used poor judgment on the Surge,then picking the lightweight Insider Joe over heavyweight Hillary with her hopeful supporters Change and hope? Nope! He disappointed Hills., millions of backers for Joe, with only his thousands! How smart is that, Ha? Further, not realizing that IF he had only waited for four more years to run, then the experience problem would not be an issue! The self centered, overly confident 'O' had no ieda what it takes to win and to be the President! He has to learn the hard way at our expense. God help America! |
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I wish the RNC would quit acting outraged (they are probably *happy*) and demand apologies when these gaffes happen.
MUCH better to let the media, blogs, comments, and just the regular "folks" deal with it.
Anyone that listened watched the lipstick gaffe can see it was either a terrible joke or lacking the judgment to know that it was bad timing.
Acting all offended and outraged takes away some of the power of these.
Sarah isn't a victim - let's *us* not make her one. She can handle this with some zinger one-liners when they happen.
My 2 cents. |
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Remember what Ann Coulter wrote last week?
Now all the democrats have this gnawing, aching feeling in the pit of their stomachs that tells them that what Ann Coulter said about the Republican ticket could also be said about the Democratic ticket.
Too bad that it is too late for the democrats. Hillary would have been a better and stronger choice for their ticket. Too bad, too late, you lose.
Sarah Palin represents the future for the republican party and it is driving the democrats absolutely crazy.
Boy, John McCain really picked a good one! |
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Obumble will learn, but not at our expense, my dear. He's TOAST! God Bless America again! |
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Excellent link, William.
http://www.usnews.com/blogs/capital-commerce/2008/9/10/pop- why-the-obama-bubble-has-collapsed.html
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It ain't over yet...
McCain may be ahead in most polls, but Obama appears to be still leading in the electoral college votes, and if the election was held today, he would probably win. McCain has positive movement, but he's not there yet.
All of this smear stuff needs to calm down. Jabs can be fun, but don't really help. I'm guilty of it too, we all are. Unfortunately, the rest of this month will probably be wasted time IMHO.
Let's get back to issues. Remember, starting at the end of this month are THE DEBATES! The debates are the next major landmark.
Hopefully the campaign will get more serious as the debates get closer.
I'm hoping...
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So, you're delighted that the G.O.P. is dominated by juveniles?
Again, did ANY of you jump on John McCain for using THE SAME SAYING about Hillary Clinton? Did John McCain say "I'm sorry, it was a terrible thing to say"?
I didn't think so.
Grow up. |
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Obumble will learn, but not at our expense. He's TOAST my dear! God Bless America again! |
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'It's Pubs laughing over Obama's gaffing'
Laughing? But what a minute--you're outraged, right?
Outraged--the perpetual state of the victim-complex right-wing.
You aren't the victims you think you are. You've been in power for a long time now, and everything's in bad shape because of conservative ideas, incompetence and cronyism. |
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that was suspected about him. He is a very angry man that most assuredly has problems with, whites, especially, white women, strong white women, that is. From his, "typical white person" comment about his grandmother, the obscene gesture to Hillary, and now, his "pig" refrain concerning, Sarah, leaves no doubt that he harbors, white misogyny. This "man" is simply not comfortable in his own skin, he seems to have never reconciled the fact that he is bi-racial. He very much, resents his white half and the job of President, demands that one must know oneself, and that he be comfortable with himself. Barack Hussein Soetoro Obama, black father, who was a Muslim, had a white mother, was schooled in Islam, once saying that the Muslim call to prayer was "the prettiest sound on earth at sunset", but now says that he is a committed "Christian"; as a young boy, was tutored by an angry black, communist, but now says he loves his country; continually sought out the most extreme of society, anarchists, unrepentant bombers, who he befriended, and eagerly sought their council and now he wants us to believe that they are, "mainstream"! Is it any wonder that Barack Hussein Soetoro Obama has no idea who he really, is. This confused and very angry man is unfit to be POTUS. |
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You forget, the G.O.P. is the party of victimhood.
Negative information comes out? Oh, they're victims of the "liberal media".
Terrible economy during a Republican adminstration? Oh, they're victims of the preceding Democratic administration (even if that administration ended years earlier. Heck, the Rs are still running against Jimmy Carter).
Terrorists attacks happen on a Republican administration's watch? Blame it on the previous administration.
I've even seen and heard Republicans blame Ruby Ridge on Bill Clinton, even though that happened during George H.W. Bush's administration. |
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The audacity Obama has in a bungled attempt to explain what he meant. This man is truly delusional. The way he speaks is SO patronizing.
The American people are finally starting to see the true and hideous colors of BO Hussein.
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To overplay the Palin hand?
I do not want to see overexposure kill this ticket. |
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Palin, in her speech at the convention used the words of Westbrook Pegler, a notorious right-wing columnist who was also a staunch and vocal anti-semite. Niiiiiice.
Pegler died in 1969, but not before compiling a less than illustrious résumé. A staunch anti-communist, by the end of his life, he'd adopted some extreme and racist positions. He grew to hate Franklin Roosevelt and even said that he regretted a would-be assassin of FDR had "hit the wrong man."
Then there's Pegler's staunch anti-Semitism, what Philip Roth called Pegler's "casual distaste for Jews." After being fired as a columnist by the Hearst family, Pegler wrote briefly for the far-right-wing John Birch Society, but according to the Politico's Ben Smith, Pegler was too anti-Semitic even for the Birchers. By the end of his life, Pegler was opining that it was "clearly the bounden duty of all intelligent Americans to proclaim and practice bigotry."
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Anyone catching the new show on MSNBC?
Surprise, surprise, it's an all out trash the Republicans show. Liberals interviewing liberals, talking trash. Who would have thunked it?
Oh well, I was hoping that channel MIGHT have at least one decent show. Not today......
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Some day in the very near future:
News flash: Today, VP Candidate, Joe Biden announced his resignation from the Democrat ticket. Senator Biden stated that he wanted to focus on his own challenging campaign for his Senate seat because he wants to ensure that President Obama has a friend in the Senate that can help enable the President's initiatives and legislation.
(the next day)
There have been reports that Senator Hillary has been contacted by the Obama campaign to replace Joe Biden on the ticket.
(some time later)
Insiders have reported that a conference call was made today between Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, Howard Dean and other members of the DNC. Reports are that Hillary was offered the VP position on the ticket. Senator Clinton responded bluntly by stating that she had no interest in boarding a train that was heading full-speed over a cliff. She reportedly responded with this offer, she would only try to prevent the train wreck only if she was the conductor on the train; she was at the top of the ticket. She left the conference call by suggesting they call her back after they had an opportunity to discuss that option and make their decision.
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I am a life long Republican. I can not vote for this man who has a voting record of not supporting Vets. I also know from the bottom of my heart the man has PTSD. It also sickened me when he killed single handed the POW/MIA committee.
While I cannot vote for the Democratic Party, I also can not hold my nose and cast a ballot for a Vet that does not support his fellow Vets.
P.S. I have met POW's and even a man who was awarded the medal of Honor. And they don't spend every day telling the tale to further themselves. I am so tired of this man, and listening to the rest of my Party cheering him, that never could stand him before. I wish the "new conservatives" or Religious Wackjobs and nuts on radio and fox would go Democrat. Where is the Party? Oh it's been hijacked. |
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Once we put McCain and Company back in the White House, we will be far from done... We will need at least 2 to 4 more years to send your Dem buddies packing from the Senate and the House... I predict that the Witch from SF has only two years left to continue to cause the Havoc she has initiated these past two years and I suspect that the Folks from NV will take Harry out themselves next time he runs...
Then, we can finally get some Conservative things done again.... We'll start with replacing John Paul Stevens, Ms. Bader-Ginsberg, and possibly Mr. Kennedy on the Bench with good solid Cons after the order of Roberts and Alito and then we will turn our eyes towards outdated Policies and Institutions that exist to prop up the unproductive and those who refuse to work for a living....
Yes Girl, who is an animal, we will finally bring the change to Washington that this country has needed for a loooonnnngg tttiiimmmmeee.
You may even have to go and get a job that would involve either making something or selling something instead of milking the government for a paycheck... |
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Give the American people credit. They have their eyes open and noticed that the Democrats held THEIR convention FIRST, followed by the Republicans. There was non-stop anti-McCain rhetoric the entire four days - with hardly a peep from the McCain campaign, let alone anything critical from the media.
Why should anyone thus be surprised that some of the speakers at the Rebublican convention - including McCain & Palin - took the opportunity to set the record straight regarding their opponents? What is unfair about that? And all the while, the entire Obama camp and the media in this incredible frenzy.
There is thus a good explanation for the subsequent surge in favor of the McCain/Palin ticket. Americans can see and judge events and people for themselves. They know unfair partisanship when they see it. They can also judge the quality of canditate's character, and can see and appreciate it when candidates come along with a proven record of putting their country's best interests ahead of narrow partisan interests and cooperating across the aisle to make good things happen. People like what they see in John McCain and Sarah Palin, which is why they are flocking to them in droves. They can judge for themselves who is really on their side, and thus who to side for in this election. |
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Clearly your comments are a perfect illustration of what we get when liberals run the education system. Keep it up -- you prove our point that pandering to the education unions for more of the same low quality education is change we can't afford. Also keep spinning for BHO; perhaps you will drill that hole to the other side of the earth (where all of the outsourced jobs are going thanks to liberals pandering to big labor). |
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Nobody has mentioned why the polls have moved the other way in New Mexico among other places and that is because of Hispanics.
Ironic that the very group that the republicans jumped all over and McCain as well hold the keys to this election.
My take is: Have the Repubs and McCain come up with a tough but fair immigration policy, and no outrageous talk. I don't think that hispanics are enamored with Obama's left wing pandering, so he still has a chance with a group that makes up 15% of the electorate and 12% of voters.
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is, Little Dude. Watching this bunch of flim-flam ponzi schemers come apart is 'the most fun I've had since the hogs ate Baby Sister!'**
**Thanks, A86!** |
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I was responding to the post, not you. You're right, you weren't whining.
I have a hard time understanding people who say that Hillary was the right pick. Why? Runners up are rarely the running mates.
McCain didn't pick Romney or Huckabee. He also didn't pick any of the 16 republicans governors with more experience than Sarah Palin. |
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I think that you have gone over the top...Trust me, I am not a McCain fan....
But when I look at Obama and Biden, I am a great "nose holder"...
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So my thoughts are when it comes to immigration policies, if your illegal then you are breaking the law. therefore i do not care if the policy appears fair to you or not. The last thing I want is to be paying with tax money for health care coverage for people that broke our laws getting here to begin with. Tough immigration policies are needed. I'm a citizen of this country so as far as illegals are concerned, I don't care if its fair. |
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I saw on the news this morning that Bill Clinton is going to meet with Obama later this week to "offer him advice" on his campaign. I wonder if something like what you mention might be going on.
It may be too little too late, though. Gov. Palin's positive ratings are much higher than Hillary's, and Hillary's presence in the race will further solidify and motivate the Republican base.
On the other hand, the Clintons may leave The Obamessiah out there on his own so that Hillary has a shot in '12.
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It was the 1980's we in spec ops were not fond of him back then. My anger towards the man goes back a long way. Check out some military blogs. I don't visit them anymore. I do agree with you on Obama/Biden. I just can't believe McCains Veteran voting record has not come up anywhere except with Vets.
Oh well I can look forward to 2012. |
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I am sooooo tired of hearing about how wonderful Sarah Palin is...I mean come on! The woman gave a [scripted] speech at the Republican Convention, and since then she’s basically repeated the same (now tired) speech on the campaign trail. Other than that she’s done nothing except—forgive me for being candid—be a white woman. And since none of us really know her, because she hasn’t given any interviews to the media or directly shared any of her social or policy views: I can only assume that her being ‘a white woman’ is the reason that [predominantly white] people, are suddenly flocking to the Republican campaign. Here’s the bottom line: I could except if Sarah Palin was as experienced as Joe Biden or Hillary Clinton or Mit Romney or Joe Lieberman…I could even except if she came out and faced the media and answered the same tough questions every other candidate in this race has faced; but the fact that neither of the afore mentioned is applicable to Ms. Palin, and yet she’s being hailed as some sort of political wonder for doing nothing (other than be ‘a white woman’), lets me know that racism is alive and well in America...For the life of me, I can't understand how [small town white] Americans (many of whom suffer from extreme poverty) would be willing to vote for a ticket that supports the policies of George Bush, which clearly favors big business and the wealthiest of Americans. Race aside, there is a ticket in this race that's committed to helping all Americans who fall into lower and middle income brackets [whether white, black, red or green], and to me it's mind boggling and [quite frankly] unintelligent to think that some will not vote for a person who wants to help them, because he is an African American…I personally wouldn’t care if Barack Obama were a purple dog, as long as I know that the policies of George Bush (which has devastated me and I’m sure many other Americans) will be done away with—he would STILL get my vote, purple dog and all!
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As if Change We Can Believe In for two years is not tired speech? Come on and grow up -- the government was not designed to be your personal piggy bank. There is not one policy that this administration has put in place that has impacted you and everyone knows this is complete whining victimization drivel. |
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What kind of speeches does Obama give?
Scripted.
What happens when Obama's teleprompter breaks?
He freezes up.
What happened when Palin's teleprompter broke?
She just got better and know without the text even knew it.
As to who has done nothing:
What is the shortest book in the world?
"The Accomplishments of Barak Hussein Obama"
Do you realize that your guy has never run a hotly contested race?
As to your opinion of the policies of George Bush, do you ever realize that the facts are that McCain is the only one in the race who really has tried and succeeded to make important changes?
Obama has literally done nothing.
I am not voting for him because I do not believe he is who he says he is. His skin color is immaterial to me.
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you know what it's been like to be saturated by the great flawlessness and mezmerizing fabulosity of the Anointed One for more than a year. Don't you have a clue--apparently not--as to how whoring & fickle the drooling pressies are. She's not 2-weeks old, Kid. But, glad you are feeling our Baby Bammy Pain. Hey, empathy is gooooood. |
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The LIB's are going nuts and throwing every piece of Sh*t they can at McCain & Palin.
Keep it up everyone. WE have pissed them off. (-: |
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Want to know why I like Palin? Because she is me, she is my mom, she is my neighbor, and she is every woman I've never met but know as well as I know myself.
Hillary was a step closer to true respresentation of the people, the women people, but even so, she was still in a different world than most of us. But she was closer......
Sarah Palin is ME. FINALLY I have a REAL voice, a person who lives as I live, thinks as I think, and represents that portion of the American people. |
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Want to know why I like Palin? Because she is me, she is my mom, she is my neighbor, and she is every woman I've never met but know as well as I know myself.
Hillary was a step closer to true respresentation of the people, the women people, but even so, she was still in a different world than most of us. But she was closer......
Sarah Palin is ME. FINALLY I have a REAL voice, a person who lives as I live, thinks as I think, and represents that portion of the American people.
As for Obamas lipstick comment; at the very least it shows a serious lack of judgement that I am not willing to risk showing up during political discourse with Putin or Kim Jung Il....... |
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Seriously, Barack Obama and Joe Biden and their families need some beach time too. Maybe you and your husband can score some steamers, quohogs, and lobster and have a clam bake on the beach. You guys need a time out.
And I bet if you try a little honey instead of vinegar, Sarah Palin would score you a complementary box of choice halibut, salmon, and crab. |
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To ridicule Michelle's comments further, federal spending has increased over 50% in eight years under Bush -- over $1.1 trillion dollars (and no, this money is not all going to Iraq and Afghanistan):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_federal_budget
2008 Budget: $3.1 Trillion (Bush)
2002 Budget: $2.0 Trillion (Bush)
1996 Budget: $1.6 Trillion (Clinton)
Further, who exactly do you think pays the taxes in this country and do you think this might play into your identity politics loving party? Of course, pander to those not paying their fair share of taxes to ensure that the dependent class continues to keep voting them into power (to not solve any problems so they can keep having a victim in place). Brilliant. The next time you spew about class warfare, keep in mind who actually pays the income taxes in this country that keep you secure and keep the redistribution of wealth flowing to the masses.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxation_in_the_United_States
What does this say:
Top 0.1% pay 17.4% of FIT (clearly way more than their fair share)
Top 1.0% pay 36.9% of FIT (clearly way more than their fair share)
Top 5.0% pay 57.1% of FIT (clearly way more than their fair share -- do you sense a theme here?)
Bottom 50.0% pay 3.3% of FIT (how exactly is this anywhere near their fair share?)
Perhaps if BHO started talking about creating an investment culture instead of pandering to construction unions and teacher unions to "invest" in infrastructure he might be able to get traction, but that would obviously go against his socialist beliefs that the government is all mighty. Again, we cannot afford liberals or their policies anymore. |
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Actually, BO was in a hotly contested race. He lost. |
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Your numbers are not the latest. The top 5% of income tax payers in 2006 paid OVER 60% of all federal income taxes. The bottom 50% pay 2.9%. |
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Fair enough. Let me ask you a question: Why would anyone in a position of power try to help big business? Have you ever thought about that?
You probably think, "These are rich guys...why are we making them richer? Why not help the poor people?"
Well....this IS helping the poor people. Big business is like the spine of this country. If you don't have a string spine, where are you?
They don't just happen. If they aren't selling their product or service I quarantee they won't be a business very long.
They also provide more jobs to people who need them if they are more profitable. This also supports small businesses who support them and also provide jobs. All of this stimulates the economy, which is also good for the poor people.
This is just a capsule explanation, but I hope you will try to see if rom that perspective.
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Really.. why doesn't Obama give back the gov money he used to make Rezco rich while the slums in his area got worse!
You really want to go there? |
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Have you ever gotten a job from a poor person? |
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Thanks for helping strengthen my point!
Wouldn't it be nice if politicians returned to an argument that this country is about equality of opportunity instead of what Michelle and the rest of her party wants in equality of outcomes (as if that is even possible under any economic system)?
At least one party is able to conceive of that notion if they cannot exactly articulate that message, and no it isn't BHO hoping for change. |
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I cut up your post for effect:
... gave a [scripted] speech …. done nothing except—forgive me for being candid—be a white woman. … her being ‘a white woman’ is the reason that [predominantly white] people, … that racism is alive and well in America...
Switch Obama in for Palin & black in for white & that would be offensive. Interesting, perhaps. Is it true? Is it true for both rock-star candidates? I guess to some degree, right?
As for "the same speech" that certainly is being repeated often these days... But, if an artist were selling CDs... you would not release the 2nd until the sales for the first one started to decline. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. The current strategy seems to want to drive up demand. Once enough people demand new things... do not be surprised if you get what you wished for plus another motherload of regret.
Did you know that she resigned from her job to protest Republican corruption, and then forced two good old boy republicans to resign? The people who have so many negative things to say about Palin... well, I'd respect them if they'd admit the fact that she has genuine reformer credentials. I guess you can say that SINCE being nominated she has not done all that much.
Can you give me three things O has done since being elected in Illinois? And, Chicago is infamously corrupt. What was O's biggest "truth to power" moment from those days? Were there any resignations?
A person can make a case either way, Palin or Obama both have short resumes. But why do you see only one problem?
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You made good points by saying McCain also did not pick a rival & that it is common for the VP to not be one of the pack.
For Obama, insiders are really questioning the rejection of Hillary. Outsiders too. Part of the problem is that Biden is pretty lame. I have to give him credit, as today he admitted that Hillary might be more qualified & might have been a better choice.
These are strange days.
For whatever reason, "everybody" knows that Hillary should have been the choice. Many thought so before Palin, and almost everyone seems to think so now. |
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Barack Obama in a smarmy attempt to brush back the dandruff from his shoulders - all them flakes around him it is no wonder. His Armani left in the limo, Shirt -Sleeves Barry called the McCain/Palin Surge 'Lipstick on a Pig.'
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animalgirl writes: Wednesday, September, 10, 2008 7:21 PM
Crybabies
The incessant conservative whining is wearing a bit thin.
Are you going to get the vapors every day about some imagined offense?
Why are you so focused on playing gotcha? Why will Republicans not discuss the issues?
Why won't Palin give back the money the feds gave her for the bridge to nowhere?
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La La La La La La La La La La La La La! I can't hear you Animalgirl! Write louder! |
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is poking fun at obambi worshippers.
cleverly, she's pointing out the blind support and worship of african-americans and marxists for obambi because of his race, vacuousness, lack of media scrutiny, vague plans, inexperience etc
i had to read it a couple of times before realizing the cleverness.
"From...An African American Perspective"
"(Palin) hailed as some sort of political wonder for doing nothing ..."
"I personally wouldn’t care if Barack Obama were a purple dog ... he would STILL get my vote ..."
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So who exactly is BHO talking about now that he got supply-side religion and wants to give a middle-class tax cut (clearly the top-5% of earners are out of the question even though that is where over half of the collections reside)? The 45% of the population that pays ~40% of the FIT. No, those workers make too much money. Better to pander to the 50% of the population that pays ~3% of FIT. So how exactly will that improve the economy? Is the solution refundable tax credits, with negative income tax rates for this population that absolutely create free riders with little vested interest in political outcomes or consequences as long as liberals keep getting elected to feed the gravy train? What always amazes me about "compassionate" policies is that their advocates assume that there are no consequences to their positions. How about change that actually deals with the completely contrived tax code that absolutely penalizes the producers and limits incentives? Government does not create income, and while quite prodigious at creating (paper-pushing) jobs, it isn't quite as effective as the private sector in creating real jobs, wealth, and income in this economy (government has been proven to destroy way more dollars than they redistribute under the auspices of altruism). How much does this stupid tax regime crowd out investment income that could otherwise be used to invest in our own economy? Clearly that is not in BHO's economic plan. It is against every producing American's best interest to vote BHO and his plan into office with a willing and enabling Congress. |
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Okay all your energized folks, check out http://www.mccainbling.com to get the same bling pins worn by Gov. Sarah Palin!
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Andrew writes: Wednesday, September, 10, 2008 11:18 PM
Bufo
So who exactly is BHO talking about now that he got supply-side religion and wants to give a middle-class tax cut (clearly the top-5% of earners are out of the question even though that is where over half of the collections reside)? The 45% of the population that pays ~40% of the FIT. No, those workers make too much money. Better to pander to the 50% of the population that pays ~3% of FIT. So how exactly will that improve the economy? Is the solution refundable tax credits, with negative income tax rates for this population that absolutely create free riders with little vested interest in political outcomes or consequences as long as liberals keep getting elected to feed the gravy train? What always amazes me about "compassionate" policies is that their advocates assume that there are no consequences to their positions. How about change that actually deals with the completely contrived tax code that absolutely penalizes the producers and limits incentives? Government does not create income, and while quite prodigious at creating (paper-pushing) jobs, it isn't quite as effective as the private sector in creating real jobs, wealth, and income in this economy (government has been proven to destroy way more dollars than they redistribute under the auspices of altruism). How much does this stupid tax regime crowd out investment income that could otherwise be used to invest in our own economy? Clearly that is not in BHO's economic plan. It is against every producing American's best interest to vote BHO and his plan into office with a willing and enabling Congress.
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Great post, Andrew. I think you went over the libtard's head with those facts. Bufo is lovable but mired in density. He will have no response! |
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. . .. was a real, major screwup. And what was it???? Pick a running mate. That's all he had to do. But Obama couldn't even figure that one out. I would say his judgement is very suspect. . . . and isn't that what he's running on??? His "good" judgement???? |
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kermit writes: Wednesday, September, 10, 2008 11:41 PM
Obama's only real, major decision . . .
. . .. was a real, major screwup. And what was it???? Pick a running mate. That's all he had to do. But Obama couldn't even figure that one out. I would say his judgement is very suspect. . . . and isn't that what he's running on??? His "good" judgement????
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Kermit. Even Joe slow Biden says twice now that Obammy has poor judgment as he overlooked Hillary for his V.P. and now says he should have picked her. As well as during the primaries when he said Obammy was unqualified.
Slow Joe has been little help to Obammy! |
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The bottom 50% pay just 2.9% of FIT. We are approaching the possibility of the 'tyranny of the majority' that some of the Founding Fathers feared. |
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It turns out that when Sarah Palin was mayor of Wasilla the city CHARGED RAPE VICTIMS FOR THE RAPE KITS.
When the legislature heard about it and quickly voted to make the practice illegal, the police chief appointed by Sarah Palin complained.
So, tell me, can anyone here defend this practice? Can anyone here say it says something good about Sarah Palin's character?
Here's a story about it in USA Today:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-09- 10-rape-exams_N.htm
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Michelle is probably that Pet Goat person, or Hazel. Now we have a new troll, fbear. Wish they'd all go back to sites that don't care about the intelligence of their posters. I don't mind discussing politics with an intelligent, fair-minded liberal, but these folks are just bitter. |
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Great posts, everyone.... even you lefties. Keeps tings all lively and such.
Animule:
"Crybabies
The incessant conservative whining is wearing a bit thin.
Are you going to get the vapors every day about some imagined offense?"
It ain't us you and your dopey candidate need to worry about. It's the p*ssed off women that are deserting him in droves. And you want to tell THEM their outrage is based on an "imagined offense"? Good luck with that.
Micheal- wow. calm, reasoned, rational. Outstanding stuff. Will definitely hit http://wiz-ziw.blogspot.com/
ericN-
"It doesn't matter how you meant it, back off, explain yourself, apologise to everyone if they were offended and move on to the issues."
Exactly right. Witness what Hillary did when people squawked about the RFK line she spoke during the primaries- the exact opposite of what dumbo is doing now.
ravenhaired:
"It's not about Obama at this point, it's about Palin's GOP/rightwing religious nazi manufactured 'aura'".
If only that were true, heh raven? Find it a bit rich though, someone from obamalala land whining about manufactured auras. And hey, a new record- got to the nazi reference in the very first deranged sentence! Well done you.
donquixote- well put. Your logic is unassailable, but obama can't seem to take ericN's advice so we go at least another news cycle talking about how dunderheaded nobama is.
jeff:
"Remember all the supposed lines about "racism" during the primaries? Obama supporters seemed to find racism in every cliche' and descriptor of the Democrat Candidate."
Jeff, they were doing it two weeks ago when they tried to claim using the term "community organizer" to mock kid naught was actually using "coded racist language".
Yeah, conservatives whine. Uh huh.
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in Washington. Heaven only knows what that could mean.
I want FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY and ACCOUNTABILITY.
a.) Which ticket is more likely to provide THAT?
b.) And, to what extent?
c.) As a follow-up, to what extend when the left in union with the MSM begins complaining about:
1.) 'CUTS' that are really reductions in increases;
2.) seniors making difficult choices between food and medicine;
3.) the 'children' being deprived of food, shelter, clothing AND an education;
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HOW do you stop laughing:
"HOPE" was that BHO and DEMS believed that the voters would NEVER NOTICE::::::::::::::::
SOMEONE throw him a rope to put him out of his misery: |
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You may want to tone down the logic and intellectual content of your posts here. I think I heard Animalghoul's head explode.
I hope you're not held to account. |
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I'm afraid the left will be getting even MORE angrier. I guess it won't be 'stolen' this time; more likely 'racism'. Perhaps both.
I wish they would get so angry they would leave and go live with Alec Baldwin in his estate in Italy. |
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"The thought of his being President sends a cold chill down my spine."
And he's a Republican.
Google "Senator Hothead". You'll mostly get hits about John McCain. |
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Anyone that uses 'Nazi' should not be read. Go play in the baby pool, this area is for grown ups. |
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he already used Pig
old dead stinking fish
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I think intellect flies rather uninterrupted between the ears of several of these posters. Head explosions unlikely. |
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"I want FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY and ACCOUNTABILITY.
a.) Which ticket is more likely to provide THAT?"
Well, we've not had any those three with the G.O.P. in the oval office for the last eight years, and we had a whole lot more of it in the previous eight years.
The Republicans have been responsible for the greatest increases in the national debt. If that's your main concern, vote for the Democratic ticket. |
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So, Obama said "you can't put lipstick on a pig" about McCain's agenda.
McCain said "you can't put lipstick on a pig" about Hillary Clinton's agenda.
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I first became suspicious when he announced that he would invade Pakistan:
Then the "RATION" food, heat, lights, travel, and how he would build bike paths to 75,000 in Oregon who fainted and fell down to kiss his feet:
I knew for sure when he came to us with inflate your tires!
Spent time on NewsBusters.org and thought I would die laughing:
Tragedy is that NO democrat has their glasses on or hearing aid turned up: do you think they notice ?
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I am of the opinion that most of us want to live our lives in a virtuous manner.
Unfortunately almost all of us fall short of our expectations.
John and Sarah operate from a solid moral background and have conducted their lives in a manner that is completely consistent with their belief system (whether you agree with them or not).
Seeing them together simply inspires us even more and reinforces our wishes to conduct our lives in a similar manner.
There are very few liberal politicians that can have such an effect on us. In the case of Obama, he's inspirational on the podium, but his past actions and associations simply contradict what he's saying on the stump and it's starting to catch up with him. Does he have a value system? What does he believe? Does he really believe it?
We see too many Obamas in our everyday lives (and within ourselves) and not enough McCain/Palins. So it's no wonder that we gravitate toward them.
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bufoboreas writes: Thursday, September, 11, 2008 12:07 AM
Arch:
You are right for now. I am tired tonight, so I don't have much of a response. Also, I am concerned about sheltering my investments from the sh@t storm of the collapsing housing/mortgage bubble and it's nasty implications for the markets and the economy n general. I am still a bit too timid to buy any further residential real estate because where I live we can't see the bottom. If you were one of my kids , I could give you a leg up. I am significantly in cash now, but waiting for enough of a bump in the markets to become even more liquid. Then, it will be just a wait and see game of patience to let the downturn really grind down and to remain cool enough to avoid jumping in to early. Then it will be just more sopping up the gravy with my crumpets and tea. I actually feel a bit conflicted, because as far as my own self interest goes, I am well-positioned to benefit from the misery of the general populace. I wish it weren't quite that way. I feel like I am rooting against myself politically, because I think Obama will improve life in America. I suspect you are actually working for my benefit politically. George Bush has worked out ok for me because I have been shorting prosperity. I hope you don't think less of me. love bufo.
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If you think that Obammy will improve life in our nation by inhibiting the liberty of investing for prosperity, then you are dumber than I gave you credit for. If you feel so guilty for making money by investment properties, then donate your profit money to charity or send it to your favorite government. Don't vote for a sleaze merchant to rule over us and deprive us all of your freedom to invest and prosper. This would be the intention of a libtard. You certainly don't want to be a libtard, do yo Bufo? |
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Its common to have situational context influence what is/is not "ok".
Listen to the crowd react, & you can even see some people on the video. You'd have to to be either socially or willfully blind to miss the crowd's delight.
The difference was Palin's signature lipstick joke from the convention.
I think you get it too, but you are just being a bit of a crank -- I could be wrong. If so, I apologize.
Obama was just doing a bit of mischief, and politics can get a lot rougher than that. But O miscalculated, and he lost another day being off-message and he motivated a lot more folks to volunteer & donate. O was too clever by half.
My full explanation was the second comment on this thread. Did I miss your comments on it? |
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I hope you're right. The angrier they get, the more they'll just turn off the typical middle class voter. (I happen to be just below middle-class financially, but not suffering!)
I'm thrilled that McCain picked Palin, because I think many moderate conservatives, like myself, will be drawn to her.
I think most of the "left" have their hearts in the right place, but are misguided. I'm getting really tired of the trashy statements from supporters of both sides, but it seems to me that the trash from Obama's folks is stinkier.
I've never been as involved in a campaign as I am in this one. As a single mother of two, who gets little support from their father, I am very, very pro McCain/Palin. No matter how long the lines are on November 4, they will get my vote!
As far as Alec Baldwin goes, I used to think he was cute. Not anymore, since I heard his horrible rant on his daughter. A little respect for your children, please, Alec. But kchand, thanks for the funny (sort of?) reference. Sorry I went on too long...too much energy, not enough sleep!
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. . . let me explain it to you REAL s....l.....o.....w. Palin, due to the joke she told last wednesday at the RNC, now OWNS "lipstick." You get it??? Like Hillary owns "Pantsuit," Palin owns "Lipstick." Only a man lacking good judgement would use it in the way Obama did yesterday. We all get it. Was it scripted??? Of course not. Was it "planned?" Probably not. Just a "slip." A slip showing bad judgement and poor character. IMHO. But for you to compare it to the McCain "pig/lipstick" comment of over a year ago is just plain silly and desperate. Please come to the table with something a little more meaty, please. |
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fbear writes: Thursday, September, 11, 2008 12:34 AM
What's with you folks?
So, Obama said "you can't put lipstick on a pig" about McCain's agenda.
McCain said "you can't put lipstick on a pig" about Hillary Clinton's agenda.
Why is one okay, and the other an outrage?
Arch says"
Fbear. Hillary never had recently told a joke about hockey moms and pitbulls that recently sent Obammy's campaign into a tailspin. McCain's use of the phrase had no previous personal discertation that would apply to his opponent's campaign speeches. You libtards have no clue what your cretin has done! |
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Michael writes:
Thanks William
I'd like to join a group blog..
Mike, I left a comment over at your blogspot with a contact e-mail; as I said, your stuff is *great*. My ambitions are the same as yours (but my talents somewhat less). If you'd like to collaborate, I thnk it would be a greta idea.
Keep up the sterling work!
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You are right. Obama did not "seem" hateful. He's too smart for that. But you must admit that Every word in a planned speech by a Presidential candidate is examined over and over again by speechwriters in his campaign.
And when they're done, it's reviewed again, and discussed at length. They, and he, knew exactly how the public would interpret the lipstick comment. They also knew they had an easy excuse out of it because it is true that it's a phrase used before, even by John McCain. But that was not one week after Gov. Palin's famous Lipstick/Pitbull comment!
Yes, Obama came off very favorably tonight on Letterman. But "seeming" hateful and actually being hateful are two different things. I suspect that with this comment, he was being hateful, but in a very sneaky way. |
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sez Sssssssssssssssssssssssss! Jeez, how much air is in that thing!?!?!
"President" Obama - a receding fear. |
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kermit writes: Thursday, September, 11, 2008 12:58 AM
there we go again Arch. . . .
. . . . same thought, same comment, seconds apart. .
Arch says! Amazing! It is so good to know there are thinkers out there that are on the right track. Obviously we think alike, Kermit. |
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...sitting in my rocking chair watching Obama implode under his own power? |
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Julie. Thank you so much. I enjoy your posts also. I am usually so jaded by the left that I am not very patient or civil in my posts. Most reasonable people find me down right abrasive and rude. Again thank you for your kindness.
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. . . . waiting for the sun to come up tomorrow morning here on the left coast, and wondering WHAT will Obama's big mouth bring me today???? Another major gaffe??? Another huge poll-driving attack on Palin?? Oh my, this is just glorious!!! Even my liberal relatives won't return my phone calls!!!! They've all run for the hills!!!! Nighteo everyone! Oh - and thank you Arch and Julie!! |
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It's in the air ...............
There it is again.............
It's just so strange ...... so different....
Don't know how to explain it ......
There again ......... anyone catch it ???
It's wafting through ...... just occasional whiffs ...........
Somethings up ............... definitely .....
I think ......... maybe ................ probably .......... there it is ............... the smell of desperation is in the air.
There it is again ............ I remember it now .......... oh, so distinctive.
That odor following the Dan Rather 'fake but accurate' National Guard memo.....
The Swift Boat Veteran's for Truth ..............
John Kerry responded .......... lashed out ........... annoyed ............... irritated ........... Tereeeeezzzzaaaa ................ that smell.
I remember that desperation ...... it's definitely in the air ..............
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Do any of you remember what Obama said 8 days after the attack?
He called it "a failure of empathy."
PLEASE read the article on my blog (link from my screenname) --- every American should know what this man represents.
Surge?
We need an UPsurge to ensure that the closest this man gets to the White House is the annual Congressional Egg Hunt on the lawn. |
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..the job of president is, among other things, one of being a superior strategist and a crafty tactician. Irrespective of the underlying issues of a campaign, if one looks at how two adversaries thrust and parry, over time it becomes apparent who the better one is.
Early on, Obama looked invincible, rolling over Hillary and (with or without the aid of the MSM) rolling in thousands at his meetings. Then, in the weeks following his primary zenith, he began to stumble, his juggernaut misfiring. He had seemingly clinched the nomination BUT HE COULD NOT CLOSE THE DEAL. Nonetheless, he went into July still under a good head of steam against McCain. Then he hit a couple of bumps -- after his European Victory Tour -- and, again, COULD NOT CLOSE THE DEAL.
Because of these deft moves by McCain's camp -- forcing Obama to pick Slow Joe and the indisputably great move of McCain picking Palin -- he is now sucking wind, making these stumbling gaffes.
He has been knocked off stride and off message and is fighting defence instead of offence. Trolls can whistle past the graveyard all they want but, in the privacy of their own minds, they have to be recognizing that the walk-over they expected is not happening.
No amount of blue-sky bravado can deny the loss of Obama's momentum.
Now, it might not stay this way, Palin could bomb, and Obama could ultimately win. But he has an uphill battle because a lot of people are beginning to see him for the poor tactician he really is. And, if it is not he who made the errors and blunders then it was the people he selected to run his campaign..
..pointing out what a poor president he will make.
If he limps across the finish line in November, I do not see his presidency amounting to much but a struggling and confused affair, he and his administration reacting to the declining approval ratings with the glib, off-hand remarks, childish double entendre, and defensiveness that has manifested it self in the last two days. |
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kchand, that was funny. Arch & kermit, thanks. I'm sure we'll "see" each other again soon. And thanks to alot of you other posters, I wish I had the time to list you all.
Gotta get to bed so I can get up early...tomorrow my office is hosting a pot luck baby shower for a guy whose wife is pregnant with quads. Four girls! Couldn't happen in China, I guess. But here in the US of A, we are celebrating big time. Big office collection--almost everyone donated. Lots of gifts, lots of food. I love the Midwest. |
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With great respect to Hugh and my fellow conservatives:
The article above says that Obama was "...defending his slam at Sarah Palin as a pig by denying that's what he meant, though everyone in his audience and across the country instantly knew that is exactly what he meant."
Actually, there are some notable exceptions, including Dennis Prager, Bill O'Reilly, John Kasich, and Dennis Miller, who have all gone on record saying they don't believe that's what he meant. Further, Ramesh Ponnuru and Kathryn Jean Lopez over at National Review are blogging on The Corner about how the McCain camp is messing up the response. Here's Ponnuru:
"... there may have been good ways to take shots at Obama over the "lipstick on a pig" comment. But the Republicans are coming across as whiny grievance-mongers. Don't they realize that this harping on ambiguous slights is what people hate about political correctness? It was bad enough when liberals were trying to destroy Palin. Now Republicans are trashing her brand. They're undermining the basis of her appeal as a different, tougher kind of female politician. Today has been worse than wasted."
So evidently I'm not alone in thinking this is a not an issue on which we should keep pounding away. The response from the right is sounding too much like the left. Just my two cents.
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Thanks for that fabulously written comment. But I doubt seriously that McCain or Palin will make any fatal mistakes. They both have years of experience. McCain has got a lot more umph now, but I'm betting on the cowgirl Palin to get us to the finish line. (Sorry, cowgirl was an inspirational reference for me years before this campaign, I just can't resist it.) |
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is an EMPTY vessel into which we can all fill our greatest dreams and hopes. That's the plan.
Therefore, it is impossible for him to take specific stances. Otherwise, with each one he would be limiting the vessel, thereby limiting some of us. You can't be 'inclusive' and do that.
The process is much like making a secret wish before blowing out our birthday candles. He is the unknown one that makes it all come true.
Please make MY wish come true, Barack, ..... well .... (female VP) .... you know.
Then, wish me a happy birthday.
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And he will beat your community organizer.
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You know Hugh, I have watched the "pig/lipstick" comment many times, as well as the conservative and liberal commentary AND the "explanation" by the Dhali Obama, as well as everything else related to the "controversy."
At first I reflexively assumed that the Dhali Obama was taking a very scummy swipe at Gov. Palin, but after thinking and reviewing it and listening to a comment made by Dennis Miller, I think that Sarah Palin has so gotten into the Dhali Obama's head that he is now saying things he never would have imagined prior to her entering the race as the GOP VP nominee.
Now, Congressman Cohen's (D-TN) comments were VERY insulting, not only to Sarah Palin (Pontius Pilate was a governor just like Sarah Palin), but also to Christ (Jesus was a "community organizer" just like Barack Obama). First of all, a community organizer is a union hack (see ACORN) who tries to round up protesters in order to coerce as many goodies out of the government as possible for some truly down-on-their-luck people, but mainly for a bunch of ne'er-do-wells. Jesus was on earth to save humanity from its sins, which I believe most Democrats have decided believe (sins) don't exist or they wouldn't push so hard for "free love" or condone homosexual behavior.
Here again, another Democrat equates the Dhali Obama to the Messiah. And the Pilate comment regarding Sarah Palin had no context and was demeaning and repulsive. |
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There's been some speculation based on Biden's statements about Hillary's greater qualifications for VP.
There is *no way* Obama lets her near the VP. Knowing how very, very badly she wants to be President, you think Obama wants to end up like Ron Brown or those Whitewater witnesses?
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Interesting, folks here responded to my question about the pig and lipstick comment, but nobody responded to the substantative question about the city Sarah Palin was in charge of CHARGING women for the investigation of crimes committed against them.
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I get it. Once a G.O.P. candidate uses a word, when a Democrat uses it in any way to describe a Republican in a negative way, then it becomes a slur.
Gotcha.
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Do mean when, for example, Oblahma whines, "Don't pick on me -- I'm patriotic!!??"
Like when someone asks a question about his background? His source of funding? His work with known activists? His legislative achievements? His religion? His relationship with ACORN? His minister? Or the dirt squad he sent to Alaska? Or uses a word he claims because he said he had it first?
Is that what you mean by a victim card?
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After reading the article i did not see anywhere that said Palin actually put the rule to charge victims insurance companies for rape kits in place. Quite the opposite actually, the fact that congress passed a national law shows that this is a not so uncommon practice in small towns across the country. So I don't see how this a Palin Issue. Sorry Libs try again.
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Evacuation time here on the South East Texas coast. The old timers around here have a look in their eyes that I've not seen before. Ike is defenitely a bad boy. Keep us in your prayers. |
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lipstick thing. But when BHO showed outrage about the "fake outrage" shown by GOP supporters, she simply asked,"where was Obama's outrage over the shameful treatment of Sarah's children."
The Democrats are doing what every USAF "Dash-one" Technical manual tells aircrew to avoid:
"WARNING: Do not delay ejection below 2000 feet in vain attempts to restart engines."
This is not a time to gloat. This is a terrible mark, one might almost say a "judgment" against our nation.
One of our two major parties is WAY off course. And the other could follow more easily than we want to admit.
We need to pray to the LORD and ask Him to forgive and heal our nation, give all of our leaders wisdom, and restore us to His favor.
And we need to start (or continue) to praise and thank the LORD for the wonderful blessing with which we are daily surrounded.
As I said, this is not a time to gloat. This is a time to get serious and pray. |
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as if he copyrighted it or something.
By golly, it get no better than this.
Obama is so naive as to think that his call for 'change and hope' is somehow a unique theme or that maybe he copyrighted it.
Does he think that most election themes for are for 'stagnation and misery'? Can he be so stupid?
Does he think that McCain has not been fighting- and has a record to prove it- since before Obama first began his community organizing career- of bringing change?
Does Obama think that falsely claiming McCain is the same as Bush is not going to make people wonder what else Obama is making up?
Does Obama think no one was paying attention when he was in Israel and flat out lied about being on the banking committee that wrote the mortgage reform bill?
Does Obama think that no one notices he has literally done nothing in his career except to promote himself?
Obama's message was good for a brief race, like the others he has run, where no one is really running against him or examining what he says.
His message, like his list of accomplishments, and his emotional state, falls apart under any sort of rigorous scrutiny or harsh light.
Welcome to the kitchen, Barak Hussein Obama. It is just now warming up.
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So fbear, when exactly was the last time that the Democrats balanced a budget and cut the national debt? If you want balanced budgets, I guess you will be in favor of voting conservatives back into control of the Congress, particularly the House since you are in such favor of the outcomes of the 1990's when conservatives controlled spending and cut capital gains taxes (exactly opposite of what BHO and every Democrat has proposed this year).
The last time I checked, POTUS submits a budget, but is up to Congress, specifically the House, to develop legislation to fund the government. So, if we have a problem right now in Washington, it is that Republicans in Congress thought it would be better to out-liberal liberals (and lost their way and rightfully lost elections), and the incompetents like Pelosi couldn't find their way out of a paper bag if you gave them a ladder. Is this not why Congress, under Democratic leadership, has the lowest approval rating EVER with the least accomplishments EVER?
I do not at all believe your assertion that Democrats can or will solve the spending problem that exists in Washington. You certainly cannot prove that Democrats are running on a platform of fiscal responsibility or that their redistribution programs will in any way reduce the deficit or the debt. They want to spend more than we are already spending, and heaven forbid they cut any out-of-control spending.
Their only solution is to cut the $10B per month in Iraq and raise taxes. The first one is foolish and will hardly make a dent on the $400B deficit. The second one clearly does not work -- when marginal tax rates increase, tax revenues decrease. This isn't rocket science, but the libs continue to go back to the same worn out socialist playbook and expect a different outcome. That is so inspiring. |
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Julie writes:
"William
Thanks for that fabulously written comment. But I doubt seriously that McCain or Palin will make any fatal mistakes. They both have years of experience. McCain has got a lot more umph now, but I'm betting on the cowgirl Palin to get us to the finish line."
Julie, you are too kind. (Y)our words to God's ears! |
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For the last year the media has ignored, excused and covered for the first term Senator from Illinois. They have engaged in the worst form of moral relativism claiming her sins are as bad as his. And when they couldn't find any she committed, they made them up.
Now he's in the major leagues running against real opponents and trying to appeal to all voters, not just democrats and reporters.
The issues are vital and I'd like to hear more on them, but the fact is, character is an issue too. Not just in politicians, but journalists as well. The MSM is now under the microscope and they've no one to blame but themselves. Not that they won't try, of course.
Gov. Palin and her family have been politically and personally ravaged by those that are (were) trusted to report news, not to be Sen. Obama's Fifth Column. This was done by the MSM, not the internet nut jobs that each party has to contend with.
Throughout this media circus, Gov. Palin has remained calm and on task while Sen. Obama has whined and cried foul. I wish I had seen as much anger in his delivery when he told his MSM to lay off her family.
IMHO, Gov. Palin has shown herself to be more of a "man" than Sen. Obama.
Sen. Obama, if you can't stand the heat, get back in the kitchen.
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OK, since O now says Palin was not the pig but was the lipstick... well, that is a picky distinction & even if you buy it I'd say deliberately using the word "pig" in that context was offensive.
But like I said way back in comment #2, the real problem is the stupidity. O burns 2 days & a Letterman appearance on what he thought was a clever joke. This is new politics? This is change? This is good judgment?
Its the stupidity, stupid. |
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There doesn't seem to be evidence that Sarah Palin imposed the charge for rape victims, but it is clear that her administration in Wasilla opposed the ban on imposing the charges. |
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...distractions (piggy-gate) have a shelf-life of about 24-48 hours and we move on. However, they tend to accummulate though until the voters have a sense of the candidate.
They also get stuck in the voters' minds in somewhat less than rational ways. I don't believe that Obama made an intentional reference to Palin. He was just being classic Obama-off-the-teleprompter, making a "bone-headed" (to use his own adjective) remark--boneheaded because of the "pitbull in lipstick" had been going around. Look at the brouhaha it caused, making him appear unpresidential at the very least.
The minute he said it, his audience took it to mean Palin and cracked up. He laughed too, quite pleased with himself that he made a funny.
How does this all add up? It's just one of the many goofy things that Obama says off-teleprompter and off-speech-writer. Understandable in a rather immature, unseasoned kid. Unforgiveable in a POTUS.
Imagine if he sat down with Ahmadinejad or other Muslims and started talking about lipstick on pigs.
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I doubt McCain will win NM anyway. Where is the Palin bounce now in Ohio. "Remember that the parties responsible for 9-11 are still at large". |
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McCain up by 6% in Florida, down by 3% in Pennsylvania (had been down by 6%). |
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Fox News/Rasmussen: McCain + 7; Quinnipiac: Obama +5 |
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Real Estate
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Well if the tweaky insult wasn't intended as a personal insult then we are talking about an extremely tin ear.
On the other hand, the more likely scenario, is a very arrogant man was mad and got nasty and his arrogance deceived so, he could sneak by with it.
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We've seen the Hillary PUMA's turning on Obama and planning to vote for McCain/Palin.
Check out what the Catholic commenters to an article on Palin's "post-denominational" Christianity have to say.
If these samples are any indication, this will be a landslide in November.
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As a Catholic, I consider Palin’s Christianity way more important than what church she attends. Although she may have grown up in the Assemblies of God, a church from which I’ve heard some anti-Catholic rhetoric in the past, I feel I have much more in common with her than a Catholic who would vote for a supporter of abortion.
Abortion is a non-negotiable for Catholics who are aware of the teaching of our church. Palin has demonstrated her value of human life by carrying her son to term despite a pre-born diagnosis of Down’s Syndrome, and loving him as much any of her children.
As to her primary place of worship, the “Church on the Rock,” I doubt very much that we will learn of that it has a racist, anti-American pastor the likes of the supposed Reverend Wright.
McCain made a brilliant decision by nominating Palin for VP. As a Catholic, I wholeheartedly support them for President and Vice President of the United States.
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http://ncronline3.org/drupal/?q=node/1739
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Comedy, like for Bill Maher, is above his pay grade. |
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First, all should note a variety of polls and not just focus on one. RCP , RAS, Zogby, Battleground have been the most factual in not just state, national but in ELECTORAL numbers. BO is still ahead in electoral votes. But, that too is slipping. With still over 50 days left, BO could come back because of a huge Dem registration advantage. Of course, with the liberal Dem propensity to self destruct ala Joe Biden, one can still be hopeful that the Messiah will just collapse into a Chicago based Daly machine hack! Which he is. As Rush said today, 'I know Jesus Christ, BO and you are no Jesus Christ.' Second, it depends on which states have those great numbers. BO could win huge in Ca. and NY but McCain could win some border, purple states by thousands of votes and still get the magic number of 270. It isn't over yet and Pubs, conservs, Indies, Reagan Dems should go after as many voters they can to show the hate of the Liberal Dems and their MSM allies. Just watching CNN, MSNBC will show that to voters who have not made up their minds. |
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Are comfort food for the dems.
I wil leave it to them to figure it out.
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The McCain Bounce since the end of August must be for real, because the stock market rally has been snuffed out since then. Looking at the performance of stocks under the last two republican presidents, as constrasted with the bull market of the 1990's, I'm not surprised the market reaction to the prospect of more of the same is less than euphoric. |
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We in Central Florida got by with a hell of alot of water from Fay. May you you come through at least as well. Godspeed, Sir.
The Galvaston Hurricane of 100+ years ago was beyond horrific and still lingers, for good reason, in the DNA of Coastal Texans. |
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physicist types, are you? High-Minded Deep thinkers..? Demo-land is heavily populated by your type. Focus Brainyboy: The GDP for the last quarter of Billy-Bubba's faux presidence was less than 1%. Our most recent Quarter was 3.45% Growth.
My 350K of stock holdings went south in Billy's Crash of Feb-March 2000. Patooey. |
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Among registered voters: McCain + 4 (48-44) |
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I guess those grapes really are sour. |
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Better to have Sarah, staring down, Vlady, than that metro-sexual, wimp, unqualified leftist, Barry obambi. But, please, please, please, keep those mindless, inane elitist comments coming, you wannabe George Clooney. And before you start making references to scripture, you would do well to know that in scripture a day can be as a thousand years, and a thousand years as a day. Learn what that means before you shoot your mouth of again. Stick to what you know, playing make believe, and pretending that your important. |
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Check out this doozie. The joys of socialized medicine and a culture of death, in jusxtaposition to Sarah Palin.
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Canadian doctor warns Sarah Palin's decision to have Down baby could reduce abortions
Sarah and Todd Palin's decision to complete her recent pregnancy, despite advance notice that their baby Trig had Down syndrome, is hailed by many in the pro-life movement as walking the walk as well as talking the talk.
But a senior Canadian doctor is now expressing concerns that such a prominent public role model as the governor of Alaska and potential vice president of the United States completing a Down syndrome pregnancy may prompt other women to make the same decision against abortion because of that genetic abnormality. And thereby reduce the number of abortions.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/09/sarah-pa lin-dow.html?cid=130261072
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the metro-sexual, wimp, unqualified leftist, Barry obambi, intimidated by the strong women, most certainly DID call our Sarah a "pig". He is a very angry man who is unsure of himself, and one that has never reconciled his bi-racial heritage. He hates his white half and white women seem to aggravate, that hatred. He most certainly did call her a "pig", as he did make an obscene gesture directed at Hillary, and as he did throw his white grandmother under that bus, calling her "a typical white person".
You leftists really gave us an early Christmas gift, when you threw Hillary overboard and nominated, obambi. Thank you, thank you, thank you.......... |
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The effect: viral ubiquitous hoof in mouth disease among the left--is it airborne, sure is spreading fast.
And Leon Wieseltier may well be Polonius, understanding thought as he does, however, which curtain he was hiding behind is left to conjecture.
See Ramesh Ponnuru over at the corner: No Snobbery Here!
http://corner.nationalreview.com/
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O'Reilly owned you last night. I know it. You know it. Isn't it about time you told all your excitable followers the truth?
I better not ever hear you fault some argument for a failure to consider context. In fact, you'd better removed the word "context" from your vocabulary altogether. |
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So Bill is a great guy now, because he gave BHO some wiggle room?
So you are OK as to how Bill showed Obama to be an empty suit, devoid of ideas, talent or accomplishments? |
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Go see Politico and watch and read how the lefty sputterers are trying to nail Sarah with the term God, Israel, and 'perhaps to war with Russia.' BO has never been asked these questions. Palin did not fall for the chutzpah of Gibson trying to get Sarah to dis McCain, the War against Islamofascism, and whether she knew about foreign relations from the 'elite' perspective. She gave pretty fair answers and threw back the questions to Charlie as if he were on trial. |
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About the stock markets...
At the close of business on January 20, 1993, the day of Bill Clinton's Inauguration, the DJIA stood at 3241.95. At the close of business on January 19, 2001, the last day the stock market was open during his Presidency, it stood at 10587.59, an increase of 226.6%.
As of the close of business today, the DJIA stood at 11433.71, an increase of a measly 8.0%.
By the way, during the Reagan administration the DJIA went from 950.68 to 2235.36, an increase of 135.1%.
If you care about stockholders, perhaps you should vote Democratic.
It sounds like maybe your portfolio wasn't very diversified, or else you just had made so much money in the first 7 1/2 years of the Clinton administration that a small decline added up to big losses.
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Barack is the best candidate by far. I like him, his focus on the change Americans want, and I like his smart, beautiful wife and family. McCain looks weak, an old fella. Young Sarah's a star to the rightwing, but she has no idea what she's doing. She's a cutie. But she couldn't be a worse candidate. Whatever Sarah wants, Sarah get
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dudley. When was the last time yoiu looked at the recent polls? (Laughter)
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1. Hugh posts a cogent, entertaining and enlightening essay
2. Army of not-bright KosKids rush in to regurgitate their marching orders/talking points
3. Marching orders/talking points are systematically decimated and ridiculed by smarter conservatives
4. KosKids - with no capacity for rebuttal or intelligent exchange without Markos' lead - go back to their AFSCME make-work jobs/dorm rooms and prepare for tomorrow's CSPAN script to regurgitate in the call in portion as "Independents" throuth the "Independent" line. |
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"Cicero, cicier, cicero
So Bill is a great guy now, because he gave BHO some wiggle room?
So you are OK as to how Bill showed Obama to be an empty suit, devoid of ideas, talent or accomplishments?"
Fat-fingering the console tonight, are you? Wine?
No, the neocon O'Reilly's not a "good guy", if you'll excuse that tautology.
O'Reilly's no Obamanutter. He's just a better guy than Hugh, that's all.
Yes, Obama is an empty suit. And Hugh is a shill. Can you not embrace both of those truths? If not, why not? Or do you exult in being one of Hewitt's sycophants?
There's a third way, son of the Hunter: have a look-see. |
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On September 20, 2001 - a week after an attack on our civilization - the Dow was at 8242.32.
A month before it was over 10K. Wow, do ya think 9/11 and that devestation had some impact?
Remember 9/11/01 you insipid little person?
So after seven years - and an extended and expensive war for our survival - a person who put money into the DJI (which I don't really care about anyway the S&P being a better index of normal investing) a week after that historic attack has made 28% on their money.
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Pull your pants up boy from around your ankles and prepare for another electoral demise.
Jug eared Icarus is flying too close to the sun. |
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Told ya, I believe all the polls, no reason not to.
Barack Obama is the change Americans want!
Sorry for the McCain campaign, but the amount of lying they're doing is now the big story. No surprise, run by Karl Rove. Ugly and sad.
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TOm writes: Thursday, September, 11, 2008 10:54 PM
Cicero
Pull your pants up boy from around your ankles and prepare for another electoral demise.
Jug eared Icarus is flying too close to the sun.
Arch says"
Tom. I lost it with Cicero on the other thread. Don't allow him to further damage your brain cells. I am more of a moron by simply reading his posts. |
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dudley writes: Thursday, September, 11, 2008 11:03 PM
pinhead,
Told ya, I believe all the polls, no reason not to.
Barack Obama is the change Americans want!
Sorry for the McCain campaign, but the amount of lying they're doing is now the big story. No surprise, run by Karl Rove. Ugly and sad.
Arch says;
Dudley. You sissy fellas in the libtard party have been Pwnd and have lost to Old Karl and GW for eight lonely years. Makes me smile a great big one. Now McCain/Palin will have their way with you and your future is not looking so bright. Obammy will vacate his bowels and you will gladly clean up the mess while lingering in the libtard world of despair. Go towards the light when all else fails my friend Dudley. |
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Actually, on Sept. 20, 2001 the Dow closed at 8376.21, and yes, that's still a big drop, but it had fallen to 9605.51 on Sept. 10 (and had been over 10,500 at the beginning of August and over 11,000 in early June), so it was already on a down swing.
And look, even if you take its low point in that period, if it had gained as much from there as it did during Clinton's time, it would be over 20,000 right now, and it's not even close.
And since when is a war bad for the economy? The economy did well during WWII (which included, you might remember, an attack on American soil), it did well during the Korean war, and it did well during the Vietnam war.
It's only during Bush-run wars that the economy seems to go in the tank. |
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fbear writes: Thursday, September, 11, 2008 11:42 PM
Tom...
Actually, on Sept. 20, 2001 the Dow closed at 8376.21, and yes, that's still a big drop, but it had fallen to 9605.51 on Sept. 10 (and had been over 10,500 at the beginning of August and over 11,000 in early June), so it was already on a down swing.
And look, even if you take its low point in that period, if it had gained as much from there as it did during Clinton's time, it would be over 20,000 right now, and it's not even close.
And since when is a war bad for the economy? The economy did well during WWII (which included, you might remember, an attack on American soil), it did well during the Korean war, and it did well during the Vietnam war.
It's only during Bush-run wars that the economy seems to go in the tank.
Arch says"
Fbear. You have forgotten who is running congress, which legislates the economic laws. The President can only sign them or veto them. Thus far!!!! no cigar!!!! If you want it worse, then just get Obammy elected to pass all their libtard legislation. |
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Okay, I looked at the Dow Jones Industrial Average in four-year chunks (from inauguration to inauguration), and disregarded mid-term Presidency changes.
It looks like, post WWII, there are four distinct eras for the DJIA.
We have the Post-WWII boom:
Truman: 59% increase
Eisenhower I: 66%
Eisenhower II: 33%
Kennedy/Johnson: 41%
The Johnson/Nixon/Ford/Carter doldrums:
Johnson: 4%
Nixon: 10%
Nixon/Ford: 6.5% LOSS
Carter: 1% LOSS
Reagan/Bush/Clinton rebound:
Reagan I: 29%
Reagan II: 82%
GHW Bush: 45%
Clinton I: 111%
Clinton II: 55%
GW Bush doldrums:
GW Bush I: 1% LOSS
GW Bush II (so far): 9% LOSS
It's interesting that the stock market did well during the Korean War, not so well during the Vietnam War.
Other economic measures, such as unemployment and GDP growth, did well during the Vietnam War. |
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fbear. You can spin the numbers any way you want, but you cannot fool intelligent people with meaningless stats. Tell me what happens to the economy when taxes are low on upper income earners during times of war! Didn't think you could. |
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I usually ignore you, but since you stayed away from the childish language, I'll do my best:
The current administration, as far as I know, is the only one that has lowered taxes during a time of war. And look what it's done: Median income, adjusted for inflation, dropped, stocks are stagnant, and the national debt soared.
Perhaps you think those are good outcomes, but I don't.
As for "meaningless" stats, I suppose you'd rather go with your FEELINGS. |
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fbear writes: Friday, September, 12, 2008 1:12 AM
arch
I usually ignore you, but since you stayed away from the childish language, I'll do my best:
The current administration, as far as I know, is the only one that has lowered taxes during a time of war. And look what it's done: Median income, adjusted for inflation, dropped, stocks are stagnant, and the national debt soared.
Perhaps you think those are good outcomes, but I don't.
As for "meaningless" stats, I suppose you'd rather go with your FEELINGS.
Arch says"
I may be childish but I have my factors correct. Who has controlled congress the past two years? You realize they hold the purse strings of the economy don't you? |
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Arch,
Who controlled Congress before 2007? The G.O.P. had the Congress AND the Presidency, and through it all people's incomes still fell.
The problem is, for the Republicans tax cuts aren't the Eleventh Commandment, they are the First Commandment, and they always enact tax cuts for the wealthy, not for the middle class, and the history of tax cuts for the wealthy is that they don't help the economy.
1981--Reagan tax cuts for the wealthy. 1982 and 1983--the worst unemployment since the Depression, and horrendous budget deficits.
2001--Bush tax cuts for the wealthy. 2002 and 2003--substantial drops in median income (adjusted for inflation). |
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Rasmussen today: Obama 49, McCain 47. Obama's previous high in Washington was +12. |
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it's obvious the main stream media will let Obama have 2 stands on every issue. 1 stand for the primary, and 1 stand for the general election, so it does all come down to who do you trust, and that can only be McCain Palin. After watching all the savaging of Gov Palin the past 2 weeks, I could care less how McCain put his commercial against Obama's sexism together, we know they've been there so to heck with it, I say nail Obama hard, Go McCain/Palin!! |
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Rasmussen today: McCain 55, Obama 41. (In July, Obama led in North Dakota by +11.) |
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The problem is, for the Republicans tax cuts aren't the Eleventh Commandment, they are the First Commandment, and they always enact tax cuts for the wealthy, not for the middle class, and the history of tax cuts for the wealthy is that they don't help the economy.
Arch says
Fbear. Tax cuts work every time they are tried. When the wealthy are taxed, it is counter productive to the economy and the middle class as jobs and income do not rise. Giving middle class tax breaks alone and keeping higher taxes on the wealthy is nothing but class envy and though it does help the middle class family's income, they simply pay their dividends in higher prices at the markets. You see fbear, when you tax businesses and wealthy investors, you are passing the cost along to the middle and lower class consumers. Low taxes for everyone rich or poor, is the key to a roaring economy and benefits the wealth of everyone. The more stinking filthy rich people we can create, the better it is for everyone. You libtards would rather pick and choose who gets the tax cuts for your own political gains instead of caring for your nation's well being. Even you just insinuated that it was somehow bad for tax cuts to go to the wealthy. Keeping taxes as low as possible for all classes is the key to wealth and prosperity. The libtards do the opposite and try to confiscate as much wealth from the people to the government and to increase its size ad nauseum which only dampens the wealth of everyone in the nation.
the republicans understand this and hence correctly, tax breaks for everyone and small government is their first commandment. Libtards do not understand the simple logic of economics or do not care. They stupidly increase taxes and grow government which leads to suffering and misery to the masses just so they can sell their way to power. They are despicable little curs. |
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fbear writes: Friday, September, 12, 2008 9:52 AM
Economy
Arch,
Who controlled Congress before 2007? The G.O.P. had the Congress AND the Presidency, and through it all people's incomes still fell.
Arch says'
fbear. That is because there were not big enough tax cuts and reductions in government spending. This does not not mean the idea does not work. It must be across the board cuts and reduction in the spending by the government along with the reduction in size of government. Tell me what happened to the economy last time that was implemented! |
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"Pull your pants up boy from around your ankles and prepare for another electoral demise."
Maybe you can predict the future, and maybe you can't. But you still wouldn't know cogent if it slapped you in the face.
BTW, FYI, I voted for Bush/Cheney in 2000 and 2004.
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. . .. but you just keep on thinking that Obama's all that. Go ahead and stick your head in the sand. You're only foolin' yourself. You have only to look at the wailing and gnashing going on in the LSM to know it's true. You guys screwed up putting forth Uh-Bama as your nominee. Plain and simple. It'll be over in 54 days. And then you can try again later. |
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I'm sure you're a nice lady. I'm an even-tempered kind of guy. I do like Barack Obama for president!
McCain's campaign is run by the same Karl Rove bunch of liars, admit it, admit it,admit it.
Like Sarah, but not for political office. |
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dudley writes: Friday, September, 12, 2008 8:50 PM
Kermit
I'm sure you're a nice lady. I'm an even-tempered kind of guy. I do like Barack Obama for president!
McCain's campaign is run by the same Karl Rove bunch of liars, admit it, admit it,admit it.
Like Sarah, but not for political office
Arch says'
Dudley. If Karl Rove and his merry men are running the show for McCain/Palin, then don't you think you are going to lose another election? Remember the results of the libtards trying to defeat GW last two elections? Do you suffer from short term memory loss? Your hero Obammy is melting down and I don't believe Rove the libtard killer has much to do with it. You have just another poser, fake, sleaze merchant, Obammy, to support. Good Luck,my friend! |
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No, NeoConScum, I am not an astrophysicist, just someone who was smart enough not to lose all his money in the tech boom.
And thanks, fbear, for all the excellent supporting data. The numbers don't lie. |
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