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Saturday, November 01, 2008
Obama's Aunt Is An Illegal Alien? Living In Public Housing?
Posted by: Hugh Hewitt at 2:41 PM
This says much, much more about MSM than it does about Barack Obama.

Within a day of Sarah Palin's nomination we knew everything about her ex-brother-in-law.

Two years into his campaign, with only 72 hours before the election, we learn about Obama's aunt.

I didn't think it was possible to have a better exhibit in the illustration of the collapse of MSM credibility than the Los Angeles Times' suppression of Barack Obama's 2003 speech in praise of Rashid Khalidi, but this is at least its equal.

UPDATE: Now that you put it that way, perhaps this will have an impact on some voters.  From the e-mail:

So let me get this straight. Millionaire Obama doesn't use his wealth to help his poor illegal alien Aunt get out of public housing, but if I complain about Obama wanting to raise my taxes to 'spread the wealth around' I'm the selfish one?



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Virginia Patriot writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 2:58 PM
McCain Wants To Make Her A Citizen
If McCain had gotten his way with any of the attempts to jam amnesty down our throats, this woman would already be on his new path to citizenship.

If you want to keep your country, DO NOT vote for ANYONE unwilling to uphold the rule of law.
JohnCar writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 3:11 PM
Hugh
these republican thug radio themes are killing McCain's campaign. It's turning off the independents in droves.

Ironically the voters are judging McCain, not Obama, by the company he keeps and you radio crackpots are making him look very bad indeed.

If you want to help McCain, follow the president's example and lay low--talk about polar bears or something.



foxmustang writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 3:13 PM
Who cares....
if Bristol's child is born "illegitimate".
Your "Messiah" was conceived and born out of wedlock ( illegitimate). Last I heard, Bristol's baby was NOT running for POTUS. UCLA......what was your point again???
Drew fm Downey writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 3:14 PM
UCLA Swimmer...
Well, I never expected civility from any denizen of Westwood, and my expectations have been met.
In case it escaped your attention, children (particularly minor children) are off-limits in political campaigns (see: Chelsea, Amy, etc.).
Let us know when you grow up.
Vince P writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 3:16 PM
Crybabies
The first three comments just leave me shaking my head. Are these people actual real-life Adults?

Lou writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 3:19 PM
Hugh, I read the article about Barry's
aunt. Said that reporters went to track her down for an interview but that she was gone. Neighbors said she was often gone on the weekends. Not surprising at all. Most slum dwellers leave their weekday slums in the city for better digs elsewhere on the weekends. Perfectly understandable.
LLR writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 3:20 PM
VOTE MCCAIN/PALIN
Vote for a Hero that cares about this country and AMERICANS!
Don't Vote for Someone who Loves only Himself and His associations!
Vote for somebody who wants to keep this Country Free Of Socialism
Don't Vote for Somebody who desires Socialism Control
Vote For somebody who has a record of actually participating in Government
And not just Voting Present!
Don't for somebody who didn't show up or just voted Present.
Vote for someone who cares about the American Peoples Voice
Don't vote for someone who wants to Stop Free Speech,
because it isn't all positive about him.
Vote for a man who knows his country shouldn't be accused of Racism
Don't vote for someone who bases his whole strategy on Making all White Americans appear Racist
Vote for somebody who doesn't trash and kick his country to Foreign Countries
Don't vote for someone Who Chastises our Allies and Praises Our Enemies.
John Mccain is for Americans
Obama is for Obama
The continued statements by Obama about Spreading the Wealth and America
Being a Wealthy Nation,
should be something to be Ashamed of?
We don't need your Socialist Views
Now he is saying Constitution isn't what he wants it to be?
Wants his Own Militia?
Beware of a Wolf in Sheeps Clothing
That is Obama

We are Not Ashamed of being FREE Americans.
We Love the Country, you kick every chance you get!

Mccain/Palin 08
Vote for a real American!
Pat writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 3:28 PM
UCLA Swimmer
"Their desparation grows by the minute."


I find your post quite amusing. Actually, many more people believe the way we do than those on your side. The problem is that we have many polling organizations that never existed before this election, in addition to those that are in the tank for Obama, and they want us all to believe that THAT ONE is actually ahead.

DON'T BUY IT!

Please explain to all of us why Obama can receive millions and millions of dollars and yet he isn't a zillion points ahead of McCain. It is because THAT ONE has nothing to say.

The individuals that actually believe in this country, and the goodness of this country, find that the MSM's assistance in helping ONE candidate buy the Oval Office quite Marxist in its actions. We might as well be living under a dictatorship.

K.G. writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 3:36 PM
The Point: Obama Is a Lying Hypocrite
First, he's a typical liberation theology believer: ignore the whole Bible except for the tiny little part in the Sermon on the Mount which commands we (not government, BTW) help the poor.

He spouts "We are to be our brother's keeper" and "our sister's keeper," but he has this neglected aunt and his neglected brother....

....even tho he has already introduced Senate Bill 2433: The Global Poverty Act, which will place a debt of $2400 on every American citizen "to help combat global poverty.

Then he takes off for Hawaii to see his dying grandmother, announcing that "anybody who will not take care of their family will not take care of the American people."

The more you learn of this guy, the more you learn that he is a liar, a fraud and a farce!

He's made ridiculous promises, which anybody with half a brain knew could never come to pass. Now he's backing off but of course his blind followers aren't hearing that.

Here's one promise he will keep: He will raise our taxes just like he said. All anybody has to do is wait for the Bush Tax Cuts to expire and everybody's goes up....right in the middle of a precarious economy.

Obama voters: You are fools voting for a liar. What the heck is the matter with you?

Barbara writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 3:36 PM
UCLA; johncar
I see the thugs have been let out of their cells and ordered to get back to work slamming the blogs with liberal tripe.
Pat writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 3:39 PM
JohnCar
"these republican thug radio themes are killing McCain's campaign. It's turning off the independents in droves.

Ironically the voters are judging McCain, not Obama, by the company he keeps and you radio crackpots are making him look very bad indeed.

If you want to help McCain, follow the president's example and lay low--talk about polar bears or something."

If that is how you are determining who to vote for, it is very sad.

I am actually listening to the candidates, since they are the ones who are running for President.

The radio shows are entertaining and most of the time very enlightening. If you don't want to listen to them, then don't. If you don't agree with Hugh, or others, don't go to his website. And yet, you all show up here every single day. Can't get enough, huh?

The problem with Obama is that since he began his campaign for President, his story ON EVERYTHING has changed three, four, or more times. With that being the case, it makes it extremely difficult to believe him on ANYTHING. Therefore, as an independent, I am voting McCain/Palin.

johnpauljones writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 3:39 PM
for the dems
Your arguments are meaningless. HH has a good point in that the MSM has done more in 2 weeks to discredit a person who has more accomplishments in the last 5 years and more executive experience than BHO does in his entire life.

However, he is the one running for president and HIS choice for VP couldn't run a soup kitchen. His FP experience is WAY overrated if you look at what his actual contributions were (NONE!!!). He's a joke.

The point is BHO is running for office, has not run anything, accomplished anything without the aid of shady characters, his philosophies lie somewhere between Socialism and Marxism, has bad economic policies and is for total abortion of anykind.....not to mention wants to dismantle the defense organization, cozy up with other socialists....And this is from hard evidence and out of his own mouth. And lets not forget about the other efforts to mess with the polls, contributions, and voter corruption; Oh yes and lets not forget who totally wants to rewrite the constitution to make sure that those who are TOO LAZY to GET OFF THEIR A-- and work, receive a weekly govt check and free healthcare....His view is that medicracy breeds excellence...riiiiight.

What the hell kind of CRACK are you guys smokin'? Perhaps you're just one of those moron's working for his campaign trying to stir things up.

Leave this country, you're not american!!!
kathy writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 3:45 PM
UCLA Swimmer
I think you have water on the brain.
Jorge writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 4:09 PM
Bye Bye, Obammy

Terrorists, Marxists, Jidahists, race-baiting supremacists, various and sundry America-haters, and illegal aliens.

Running for President of the United States.

We won't miss ya
We won't miss ya
Lyin' Obammy

+ + +
GOPsaver writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 4:19 PM
1 in 7
1 in 7 are undecided voters.

600 million dollars of other peoples money and about the same amount gifted by the DNC News Media and Obama can not close this deal?

Obama say's he is his Brothers Keeper. You would not know that from his Broter in Kenya or his Ant living in public Housing.
Guess Obama could not cut lose with some of those millions to help take care of his own Brother and he has his Ant living off of the American Tax Payers!

Socialists want to put this clown in charge of the Peoples Money? The guy has out spent McCain at a rate of 4 to 1 and promissed those on the DNC plantation every freebee under the Sun, yet votes are still breaking McCains way?

Think if this wanna-be were to manage the Military? Cuba would be able to kick our a ss.
I will say it here. Obama, his wife and VP are as dumb as a box of hammers and should not be running a chain of Taco bells let alone a Country.


kleindo writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 4:20 PM
Hey UCLA swimmer
Don't worry. Why should the Messiah worry about what Jane Fonda or Ho Chi Minh did in the 70's. Obama was only 10 years old at the time. He can't be expected to know anything about it. So maybe, what do you think, Jane Fonda for Press Secretary or maybe Secretary of Defense since she has experience sitting at those anti-aircraft batteries that helped shoot down John McCain.
CDubber writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 4:22 PM
Pshaw, what's the big deal?
When liberals say "we need to care for the poor," they don't really mean "we" in the literal sense, you know. They mean "we" the taxpayers.

That Obama's aunt can't get the care from her very own nephew that her very own nephew would like us (the taxpayers) to provide for her, is anyone *really* surprised?

I'm not.

Liberals are as charitable as they are tolerant (see: Prop 8 protestors hurling obscenities at Mormons on their way to the Oakland temple). It's easier to talk the talk than walk the walk, you see.

"All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - The Democratic National Party.
GOPsaver writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 4:25 PM
UCLA Swimmer
You bash people who are not even running for Office and can not tell us for sure who is Obama's real daddy? He has sealed his Birth Cert so we really do not know. Was it the mail man? His Moms Cousen? Unkle? we just do not know. We do not even know where this guy was born or if he is even an American Citizen.
kathy writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 4:26 PM
UCLA Swimmer
I hope you are getting paid for the unpopular and rude remarks you are writing, as I know the tuition fees at UCLA are high.

Oh, I forgot Obama will be giving you money for college soon.

You are really SarahJane aren't you???
Pasadena Phil writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 4:27 PM
McCain is ok with this
So what is your point? You noseholders should be okay with this too so why the phony outrage? When you place party over principle, you fight standing in quicksand. Your punches don't hurt and the ground gives under you as you sink. We don't have to defeat you, you neocons will disappear under the mud on you own soon enough.
kathy writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 4:35 PM
Pasadena Phil
Translation please.

A Kathy from Pasadena.
swampthing writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 4:37 PM
"I Just Don't Care!": Obammy

"Officer, I did know that stop sign was there."

Obammy says, "I and my millions of dollars didn't know my poor, illegal alien aunt was there."

CatoRenasci writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 4:41 PM
His brother's keeper but not his aunts?
Obama is the one who said we're our brother's keepers... I suppose what he means is that we're all supposed to be taxed to support his Auntie on welfare in public housing, so that he can enjoy his millions without giving anything to charity (except to his racist church)!

What a maroon! What a hypocrite! This guy is as bad as his beloved Jean-Jacques Rousseau abandoning all of his children to a foundling home while writing about ideal education (Emile).

How can he have any credibility? He's a bloody socialist! Use other people's money to do the good you believe it.

True 'brother's keeper' walk the walk is to give your own money and time, Barry O.
swampthing writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 4:41 PM
Writer's Block

==You noseholders should be okay with this too so why the phony outrage? When you place party over principle, you fight standing in quicksand. Your punches don't hurt and the ground gives under you as you sink. We don't have to defeat you, you neocons will disappear under the mud on you own soon enough.==

Care to untangle the mixed metaphors?
animalgirl writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 4:42 PM
Republicans show
That they are not above harassing old ladies to try and win.

I thought Republicans couldn't get more shameless, but you keep on sinking deeper in the mud. I knew that something would come out today, some last minute surprise. I was expecting something a lot more effective than this; this is just pitiful.

And I love the reaction--according to townhall, Obama should try to use influence and break the law to help his aunt. So essentially, they are outraged that he didn't abuse his position like a good conservative would have.

But Obama respects the law, even if it does cause problems for his family. This is just an example of how much better Obama is than the current breed of republican, and the fact that you can't even see it is illuminating...you can't even recognize ethical behavior when you see it.
swampthing writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 4:45 PM
Not There

==Obama is the one who said we're our brother's keepers... ==

When he said that, I got the impression that he means that we SHOULD be our brother and sisters' keepers, indicating that he got that from some authority, most likely thinking that he "saw" it in the Word of God.

Where does the Word of God say that we are to be our brother and sisters' keepers?
Brian writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 4:46 PM
Obama was too busy!!!!
Barry was too busy to take care of his Aunt and Brother in Kenya because he was attending to the following:
*too busy trying to destroy Joe the Plumber
*too busy kicking of the Washington Times, N.Y.Post, and the Dallas Morning News off his sticky plan.
*too busy going to Hawaii to doctor up his birth certificate
*too busy making sure that accorn seals his election for him in a fraudulent matter of course
*too busy telling us that if either of his daughters gets pregnant he will not punish them by making them have a baby(I'm sure Sarah Palin's daughter doesn't feel that way)
*too busy trying to redistribute our wealth
*too busy choosing his friend carefully such as William Ayers, Tony Rezko,Railia Odinga,his America hating pastor Jeremiah Wright,Rashid Khalidi his Palestinian friend who hates Israel, his wife Michelle who also hates America, and all his other America hating friends.

Don't you get it? Barak is just too busy to take care of his relatives. Come to think of it, maybe his Aunt is a Republican and maybe his brother in Kenya is a Christian who didn't support Railia Odinga.

Are you a Republican? Do you not agree with Obama and his policies? He will treat us the same way he has treated his Aunt Zeituni Onyango, and his half brother George Hussein Onyango Obama



Kenny Z writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 4:47 PM
Swimmer
This "UCLA Swimmer" is merely an Obama plant who is distracting us from discussing the real issues. The best way to engage him is to ignore him!
S/A86 writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 4:47 PM
Hotty+Hero or Liar+Zero
The choice is clear.

Clearly Karl Rove invited Aunty to stay a while...
swampthing writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 4:48 PM
Great Point, kleindo!

==Why should the Messiah worry about what Jane Fonda or Ho Chi Minh did in the 70's. Obama was only 10 years old at the time. ==

EXCELLENT POINT!!
swampthing writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 4:49 PM
Isn't Everything?

==Clearly Karl Rove invited Aunty to stay a while...==

It's Bush's Fault!
swampthing writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 4:50 PM
It's Bush's Fault!

Obammy's illegal alien aunt came and stayed while George Bush has been in office. It's HIS fault!
Dave writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 4:50 PM
UNAWARE
Once again.....unaware.....wow...can you day clueless or BS....it's one or the other. 500 plus Sundays and unaware......10 years with Ayers and unaware......Awesome house deal where he underpaid and Rezko overpaid and unaware......Obama is either clueless, or a liar..oh, no I forgot, not a liar a Lawyer. No shame. Okay, just a shame he got caught and the SHAME lies with the MSM and 1/2 the voters for being UNAWARE or shameless.

No more Chronicle, Times, Newsweek, Time, Bee, NBC, CBS, ABC Shame on all the MSM.
Janet writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 4:53 PM
DUH???
Can someone please explain to me what relevance this has to McCain or Obama running for President? I mean, so what?
LLR writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 4:54 PM
Phil
Phil says: When you place party over principle, you fight standing in quicksand. Your punches don't hurt.
If you vote Obama you have compromised any shred of integrity or morals you may have had, your opinion is MUTE.

Holding your nose and vote for the lesser of two evils? Mccain is way beyond Obama in Integrity!
He is honest, he is honest about being a Rino, he hasn't tried dazzling anyone with BS like your Obama has. Every time BO opens his mouth a lie comes out!

Honesty outweighs BS anytime!
swampthing writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 4:55 PM
"That One" Doesn't Know??

==Republicans show
That they are not above harassing old ladies to try and win.==

Republicans are not harassing the woman.

We are merely pointing out that a messiah most certainly would know whether, or not, his own aunt is living ghetto-like and illegally in this country; and, yet, the Messiuh doesn't.

Nee writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 4:58 PM
animalgirl
What I find amazing is that you had no outrage for an Obams supporter/donator who worked for the state of Ohio and illegally investigated Joe W. who only asked a valid question and got the true answer that revealed the redistribution of wealth plan of The COW. I call that doubling down on the standards. Or Pot, black kettle. Take your pick.
kathy writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 4:59 PM
Animalgirl
This is a good one.

Conservatives don't want Obama to abuse his power and do something unethical..........But how about a one way ticket for Auntie back to where she came from. He could spread the wealth, and give her a few extra bucks for run around change too.

You sure gave that a twist. It was a good try, but did not work.
Virginia Patriot writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 5:06 PM
McCain Will Not Enforce The Law
He doesn't think we can/should enforce our immgration laws. If you want enforcement vote for Barr or Baldwin.
Nee writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 5:06 PM
As for the rest of you
Why the hell would you vote for a man who has thrown his Grandmother under the bus, and claims not to know that his Auntie was here? Now that is just willful ignorance...You cannot possibly believe the COW had no idea.
Try this one: She gets here simply because she is Obama's Auntie and then her application is a reject because, of course, no special treatment. Except...a funny thing happened on the way to the welfare office. She, an illegal alien got housing that our tax dollars are paying for? I find that disturbing.
Yet all you lefties insist on being ignorant and using any excuse to give the man yet another pass. Had this been Jhn McCain hiring the illegal alien Nannies liek Zoey Baird you'd be taking to the streets. You are all as pathetic as the candidate you're voting for.
hunterson writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 5:08 PM
She made illegal donations
she is his Aunt, and he had no idea she is here living in public housing?
He is a multi-millionaire, but cannot be bothered to help his family- either his brother in Kenyan squalor or his Aunt living as an illegal on welfare?
But she has been advised to not talk until after the election?
Question for the Obamatrons:
How does it feel to be played for such saps?
swampthing writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 5:10 PM
Obammyscam

==Can someone please explain to me...==

Yes.

==... what relevance this has to McCain or Obama running for President?==

It's relevance is displayed in the fact that Obammy wants you to believe he is all about one thing, but does another; or, as in this case, doesn't do another.

hunterson writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 5:10 PM
I see the lefty trolls tried to highjack
this thread into a Gov. Palin bashing or church bashing thread.
Good luck with that.
It was a British paper, not the VRWC that found out Obama doesn't spread the wealth to his own family in need.
What a sleaze he is, and what tools you are.
swampthing writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 5:12 PM
Hard to Believe

==She made illegal donations...
she is his Aunt, and he had no idea she is here living in public housing?==

The Messiuh just didn't know. Really sump'n', huh?

Nee writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 5:12 PM
LLR
PPhil is not an Obama supporter. He is voting third party as am I. McCain may adnmit to being a RINO but that doesn't make it right. The point is that principal matters and no traditional parrty candidate is offering true conservative values. Of course, those voting McCain may truly believe he is better for the job. One can only wait and see.
swampthing writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 5:14 PM
Obammy Doesn't Enforce Immig Laws!

==McCain Will Not Enforce The Law
He doesn't think we can/should enforce our immgration laws. ==

Apparently, neither does Obammy.
animalgirl writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 5:15 PM
Nee
Can you give me the name of that worker?

Also, which do you think is worse--running an unauthorized database check, or faking a hate crime against yourself in an effort to stur up rage and animus?
swampthing writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 5:15 PM
Moving in the Right Direction

Zogby. McCain. +1.
Nee writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 5:18 PM
Janet
I don't care what the story is with the relationship between The COW and his Aunt. That he claims to have no clue that she was here is absolute bullshitt as the "gag order" was in full swing. So, why vote for a man who has not helped a seemingly impoverished relative from a third world country and then believe he will keep his promises to the people? Does that even register with you, Janet? or are you Monkey Girl?
swampthing writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 5:23 PM
"Blood's Gonna Run!": Erica Jong

When McCain wins, be ready for Leftist violence.

Do what's necessary to protect your family and your property and your neighborhood.
swampthing writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 5:26 PM
Instigators

==I see the lefty trolls tried to highjack
this thread into a Gov. Palin bashing or church bashing thread.==

That's their MO. THEY are the ones who create the dustup.
Virginia Patriot writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 5:27 PM
Palin For McCain/Kennedy
She's taken McCain's position on amnesty.

http://blog.vdare.com/archives/2008/10/23/its-official-pali n-supports-path-to-citizenship/
GOPsaver writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 5:32 PM
swampthing
Those people tore down chicago because the Bulls won a few B-Ball games.

Win or lose I will bet we will have violence. that is what lowrenters do.
kathy writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 5:34 PM
Obama's Mantra Should Be Not Change but



Don't do as I do...Do as I say.
Janet writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 5:38 PM
NEE.......
Guess I thought that in the realm of issues, the economy, health coverage and education were the top issues. Of course Obama's aunt is more important.
Nee writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 5:42 PM
AnimalGirl
That is the trouble AG. You people want to weigh which is worse, instead of agreeing that it was plain wrong. Niekamp was ordered by Jones-Kelly to do this. Jones- Kelly endorses and donated money to Obama. And the claims as to why are bogus. Another shining example of the willful ignorance of those voting the COW.
Janet writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 5:43 PM
Virginia.......rule of law??
When it comes to immigration, John McCain wants to let all of Mexico come into the U.S. Obviously he doesn't care about upholding U.S. immigration laws.
Nee writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 5:47 PM
Janet
Right. You just keep turning a blind eye to the way a man treats his family and let me know how that works out for you. It's not okay that he would throw away family for the purpose of electability. If you see nothing wrong with that then I feel sorry for you. Real sorry. I only hope if you have a daughter and you notices that he treats his mom like shitt, that you pay attention.
csprings writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 5:51 PM
Obama is apparently stupid
Sat in Rev. Racist's church for 20 years but had NO IDEA what was really going on. Auntie is an illegal alien but he had NO IDEA. Not sure what income level will pay for his programs or support his welfare program - he has NO IDEA.


And the libs are voting for him because he such good ideas. That makes a statement.





Nee writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 5:53 PM
Also, Janet
You ignored what I said...if he can't help family, why would he bother to keep his campaign promises to the "middle class" or the rest of the COuntry??
Mary writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 6:04 PM
This is ridiculous.
For those of you whose father abandoned you at an early age, do you still keep in close contact with his brothers and half-sisters???
swampthing writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 6:05 PM
Shery is on the Ball!
Shery writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 5:51 PM
Obama is apparently stupid
Sat in Rev. Racist's church for 20 years but had NO IDEA what was really going on. Auntie is an illegal alien but he had NO IDEA. Not sure what income level will pay for his programs or support his welfare program - he has NO IDEA.

And the libs are voting for him because he such good ideas. That makes a statement.
--------------------------------------------------Great observation!
Nee writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 6:08 PM
is it, Mary?
Because I had a father who abandoned me and gee, I still, 30 years later, see my cousins and grandparents and other relatives. Funny, my Grandparents always stepped in if needed.
swampthing writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 6:09 PM
Obammy, too
==When it comes to immigration, John McCain wants to let all of Mexico come into the U.S. Obviously he doesn't care about upholding U.S. immigration laws.==

When it comes to immigration, Obammy let his aunt come into the United States illegally and stay illegally, and, just now, he claims to know nothing about it.

Obviously, he doesn't care about upholding U.S. immigration laws.
Mary writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 6:11 PM
Nee,
Did your father abandon you when you were a toddler? And does the majority of his family live on another continent?
Pat writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 6:12 PM
Nee and Pasdena Phil
"PPhil is not an Obama supporter. He is voting third party as am I. McCain may admit to being a RINO but that doesn't make it right. The point is that principal matters and no traditional party candidate is offering true conservative values. Of course, those voting McCain may truly believe he is better for the job. One can only wait and see."

You say you and PPhil are not Obama supporters. Since third party candidates never win anything, you ARE supporting Obama.

Pat writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 6:19 PM
Pasadena Phil
"When you place party over principle, you fight standing in quicksand. Your punches don't hurt and the ground gives under you as you sink."

Party principles?? When did the dems ever place principle over party? NEVER!!

I won't waste my vote on ANY third-party candidate . . . EVER! BARR, NADER, ETC. should run either with the dems or GOP, but run on their own principles, because they will NEVER be elected to anything running in a third party. And frankly, I wouldn't vote for those guys even if they were part of the dems or GOP.

To make a long story short, Barr, Nader, etc. will NEVER be elected . . . period!!
Windy City Gardener writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 6:23 PM
animalgirl
Also, which do you think is worse--running an unauthorized database check, or faking a hate crime against yourself in an effort to stur up rage and animus?

I keep saying you libs are a hoot. You stepped into it animalgirl. Obama's campaign has done both.
swampthing writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 6:28 PM
Voting Dishonestly

==[nee] and PPhil are not Obama supporters. Since third party candidates never win anything, [nee and Phil] ARE supporting Obama.==

This is truer than true.

Only one of the two candidates -- McCain and Obammy -- have a chance of winning. Only one of them will be the president.

This means that, whatever problems there are in that system, the sensible voter must choose the one that best meets the needs of the country AND his own needs.

Clearly, with Obammy, the guy who says that Iran is a little country, the country will spiral down. He's also the guy who thinks that we have 57 states.

Not voting, or voting for the candidate of a third party, says, "I'm not serious and I don't take the Right to vote serious."

To me, that means that anyone who doesn't vote, or votes for the candidate of a third party, doesn't have to be taken seriously. It means that anything that person has to say is not worth listening to.
LLR writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 6:29 PM
VOTE MCCAIN/PALIN
Vote for a Hero that cares about this country and AMERICANS!
Don't Vote for Someone who Loves only Himself and His associations!
Vote for somebody who wants to keep this Country Free Of Socialism
Don't Vote for Somebody who desires Socialism Control
Vote For somebody who has a record of actually participating in Government
And not just Voting Present!
Don't for somebody who didn't show up or just voted Present.
Vote for someone who cares about the American Peoples Voice
Don't vote for someone who wants to Stop Free Speech,
because it isn't all positive about him.
Vote for a man who knows his country shouldn't be accused of Racism
Don't vote for someone who bases his whole strategy on Making all White Americans appear Racist
Vote for somebody who doesn't trash and kick his country to Foreign Countries
Don't vote for someone Who Chastises our Allies and Praises Our Enemies.
John Mccain is for Americans
Obama is for Obama
The continued statements by Obama about Spreading the Wealth and America
Being a Wealthy Nation,
should be something to be Ashamed of?
We don't need your Socialist Views
Now he is saying Constitution isn't what he wants it to be?
Wants his Own Militia?
Beware of a Wolf in Sheeps Clothing
That is Obama

We are Not Ashamed of being FREE Americans.
We Love the Country, you kick every chance you get!

Mccain/Palin 08
Vote for a real American!
Vote for Honesty!
Nee writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 6:30 PM
Mary
You're kidding,right? You lefties love to put conditions on everything...the bottom line is it doesn'tmatter. He had the means years ago, to help his family in another Country, and this could have been a real story...instead he threw the woman who raised him to the wolves and the rest of his famuly he claims not to have known was here or there who might have needed help. What don't you get?
eli writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 6:31 PM
When in Trouble Claim Ignorance
Apparently when Obama says he didn't know his aunt has been living in the slums for four years, that is good enough for the MSM. What's funny is the Times of London is the one that broke the story about his aunt living in the slums.

Here's CNN's headline:

Campaign: Obama didn't know aunt's immigration status

What is even funnier is the article quotes Democratic U.S. Rep. John Conyers of Michigan who fired off a letter asking Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff to investigate whether someone leaked the information to the media in an effort to damage Obama.

How DARE someone do some reporting and leak the story about the Messiah. And the Dems want someone to investigate who leaked it? UNBELIEVABLE!


Keith writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 6:31 PM
P Phil
Just for the record: quicksand makes the typical human bean bouyant! So hold your nose and vote.
Keith writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 6:35 PM
Swampthing
Where ya been? We've missed you.
eli writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 6:36 PM
Spread Some Love to Auntie!
All the talk of spreading the wealth around and Obama couldn't help auntie get a green card and move her into some decent housing.

This is the gift that will make a great closing argument against Obama. He is all for amnesty for 12 million illegal aliens from Mexico but for Obama's auntie, Bill Burton, campaign spokesman, says "Sen. Obama has no knowledge of her status but obviously believes that any and all appropriate laws [should] be followed.

Translation: Throw auntie out!

What compassion!
Nee writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 6:37 PM
Pat
That may be true, and it's alright. I may get in the booth and decide to hold my nose. That you want to say I waste my vote is your opinion. But Barr or Baldwin are two other choices. One stands much closer to my pricipals. That is the way it is. If we don't start somewhere, we'll end up with more of the same. Sorry. It is how I feel.
Ward writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 6:37 PM
Posts from the left
I take heart in the number of posts here from the left, and believe that the brighter the outlook is for McCain/Palin, the less secure the left feels. [Both move in concert.] Hence the need to spew your misguided views here.

Let's be real, you are not going to change the vote of any HH readers - any more than anything we write is going to change the minds of anyone that posts at one of the oh-so compassionate, open minded, enlightened, leftist blogs.

Great debate is nice, but why not take the bilious, bitter, and hateful comments to the leftist sites and have your happy party there - before your party ends November 4, 2008.
miss vicky writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 7:05 PM
Kudos CatoR yes selfish, both 'O' & Joe
If the false Prophet Obama was a true Christian, he would practice what he preaches. He is in- sincere and does not have his heart in the right place! His attitude is to do as he says but not as he does! Imagine, for years, the Obamas ONLY CONTRIBUTED AN AVERAGE 2% FOR THE NEEDY, UNTIL HE STARTED HIS RUN FOR THE PRESIDENCY, THEN RAISED IT TO APPROX.,5% TO GIVE A BETTER IMPRESSION! WHAT A PHONY HYPOCRITE! Obamas selfishness is just one of many reasons why he doesn't deserve to be our President. His poor judgment and lack of leadership ability, experience, makes him unworthy to be the leader of the free world! God help America and deliver us fron the lamebrains, ignorant and misinformed who are smitten with the cool, smooth talking slick Willie! When he ruins our country, we will have lots to thank them for, especially the biased, unfair lib media who failed to do their job! Ex Democrat
hvs writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 7:56 PM
random thoughts
Hewitt’s point remains in spite of the adolescent comments below.

We do know more about Sara Palin than Barrack Obama. It strains the mind to think that someone in the Obama campaign did not sit down after the Iowa caucus and ask, “OK, what do we need to know about you to rebut the inevitable negative attacks?” Every major campaign does this with a candidate who is relatively unknown.

Obama’s heritage, his lineage, his own auto biographies speak to his past in some form or fashion. Yet ha claims he does not know the whereabouts and circumstances of this relative? Simply not believable.

Obama may yet win the election, but as Roger Simon wisely notes, the media’s poor coverage of this election is evidence of the dry rot at its core, which serves up another interesting point. Go to realclearpolitics.com and study the amazing divergence in poll results of the last two days:


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/g eneral_election_mccain_vs_obama-225.html


Take a screen shot of this and study it on Wednesday morning for a lesson into how and why the MSM is in a financial death spiral.
Pasadena Phil writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 7:58 PM
Pat, I'll make it easy for you.
This is how my vote for Barr is a vote for McCain. I'll even use your idiotic logic.

I plan to vote for Obama. Are you having an aneurysm yet? Dwell on that for a while. Good. Now. Next Tuesday, with ballot in hand, I will move my marker to the Obama block on my ballot, hover over it... maybe even touch the edge of my marker touch the ballot and then at the last possible moment, I will switch my vote to Barr. Tada! A vote for McCain!

Now if everyone would do that, McCain would win by a landslide right? Why not? Oh I see, Obama would win by a landslide.

No matter how I figure, a vote for Barr is a vote for Barr and if enough people voted that way, Barr would be the winner. Even if he didn't win, if enough people voted for Barr, the parties would be forced to MAKE YOUR NEXT VOTE COUNT!!!

Just how stupid are you noseholders anyway?

Go Bob "The Builder" Barr!!!
foxmustang writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 8:00 PM
Obama is busy...
as we speak, having ACORN fabricate false papers for dear Auntie. Their specialty is fake voter registration and corresponding fake IDs, but they said they would give it their best shot making Auntie some fake papers right now.
No, wait.....ACORN hasn't finished fabricating Barack a "real" U S birth certificate yet.
Busy little vermin, those ACORN thugs.....
Pasadena Phil writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 8:01 PM
Pay attention noseholders!
According to the RCP polls, McCain is about to lose in an electoral landslide. You are throwing your vote away. A vote for McCain is a vote for Obama. Vote for a Republican instead. Vote for Bob Barr.
Mary writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 8:17 PM
Nee,
Since you didn't answer my questions, I take it your father left you a little later in life than Obama's, and his side of the family lived nearby.
Magua writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 8:20 PM
Swimmer
Unfortunately, the education from a fine institution didn't take. You people don't seem to care that this imbecile was not properly vetted by the propaganda ministry. I cannot believe that you are digging your own graves. I am for splitting the country into the land of misfit toys for you idiots that are voting for the messiah. Once you find out what you have signed up for you will want to come back. I say no! Give these idiots the left cost, the Northeast and the upper Midwest. Your socialist agenda should allow you to take care of each other until the lack of productivity and work ethic kicks in. They will then start mixing up the Jonestown Koolaid for you have taken bait yet again.

Party First – Country Last
Pasadena Phil writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 8:21 PM
Zogby has new poll
Obama leading 52% to 42% under BOTH polling methods. First time in history. Predicting landslide for Obama. Just like RCP is predicting.

Don't waste your vote. Whether you are a Dem or Rep, neither of these candidates are acceptable. Protest the one-party system. Vote 3rd party.

If you are a true conservative, you will be fighting either one of these guys.

Go Bob "The Builder" Barr!!!!
Magua writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 8:22 PM
This is too funny!
Be Vigilant and Vote! Turnout is Key!
Hillbuzz and other blogs have some former disciples of the most merciful claiming that they were being used as tools for the left to dispirit the Republicans.
The trolls know the end is near and their cheating, lying, illegal voting, foreign money, obscuring of his past, and every other ploy known to man and they still can’t win. We will still see tools that infest this blog saying stupid things like “Romney Rising” and other brainless chants. The internals of the polls show the messiah with little more than 80% of the Democrats voting for him. Forest Gore has 92% and the Genghis Kahn of the Mekong Delta has 89% and both still lost. He has lost a number of the core constituents of the Democrat party due to his treatment of Hillary, his moveable goal line with respect to tax policy, and his most blatant blunder ‘we need to spread the wealth around’ comment. Even Kerry wasn’t that stupid…and that is really saying something. Hopefully, the secular Jews will see him as the anti-Semite and threat to Israel he is.
I am back in South Carolina and just got back from voting absentee with three hundred of my closest friends. Many of the black people I spoke with are not voting for the most merciful because of not being authentic. I think this is hilarious. Hey hey, ho ho BHO’s got to go!

Do not be complacent! Do not be deterred! VOTE!
Pasadena Phil writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 8:27 PM
Zogby poll breakdown
Obama and McCain have exactly the same level of support among their own party and are splitting the independent vote. What accounts for the 10% lead for Obama? There are MANY MORE DEMOCRATS THAN REPUBLICANS! Do you think it mattered that the RNC told conservatives to take a hike?

Go "Bob the Builder" Barr!!!
Pasadena Phil writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 8:31 PM
Zogby poll breakdown... more
That McCain has the support of 88% of Republicans is misleading. Those of us who were disgusted with the Bush abandonment of conservative principles and the surrender by Republicans in Congress left a long time ago. The party now consists of those who would vote Republican if a cadaver were nominated.

Go Bob "The Builder" Barr!!!
hvs writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 8:32 PM
Phil,please explain this
report from Zogby:

http://zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1623

with your claim of a 10 point margin for Obama. Why does the one day poll differ so greatly from whatever Zogby poll you are referencing (BTW, which is it???) and please explain the poll internals that verify the divergence.
Pasadena Phil writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 8:35 PM
Here's the link

http://www.gallup.com/poll/111661/Gallup-Daily-Obama-52-McC ain-42-Among-Likely-Voters.aspx

Read it yourself.
Gary writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 8:37 PM
MSM?
Hugh,

I really do not like the acronym MSM. Mainstream implies the media is normal, conventional, middle-of-the- road. They want us to believe they are “mainstream” while in fact they are very left of center and liberal, under their lapels they have big round “Vote For Obama” buttons, they are despicable.


Magua writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 8:39 PM
Rose Bowl Fill
Bob Barr won't draw the flies that the Rose Parade draws. Zogby cannot find his ars with both hands.

IBD poll is the one to watch. Your boy is not going to be elected. He has about 80% Demorat support and unfortunately that is about 10% light from 2004 and 12% light from 2000.

Sorry back to the pickup basketball games and trivial pursuit with Bill and Bernadette.
Pasadena Phil writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 8:40 PM
hvs
You figure it out. The preponderance of polls and predicting a landslide for Obama. That has been consistent and fits the data. Why would it make sense for voters to be fed up with the status quo, and at a time where Republican registrations have dropped from almost 39% of all voters to less than 25%, for the very Trojan Horse democrat who led the battle for amnesty and Cap and Trade to be elected?

So you figure out the differences. You can believe whatever you want.
foxmustang writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 8:42 PM
really clever...
that Pasadena Phil....
portrays himself as an "independent" supporting Bob Barr......
thinks you are as lightweight intellectually as he is.......
trying to convince you to vote for Barr......
while "telling" you everything that he thinks is wrong with the Republicans.....
all the while he is pulling the lever for Barack "Shape-Shifter" Obama...
don't fall for this amateur attempt at manipulation.....
DO NOT BE FOOLED....
AND DO NOT VOTE FOR BARR.....

McCain/Palin.....the ONLY choice for patriots..
NeoConScum writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 8:46 PM
Auntie's Sign Over Door: Slum Sweet Slum
Brother's sign over Kenyan hovel: Hut Sweet Hut.

But, to state this is a sure sign that I am a brutal Repub-RACISSSSSSSSSSSTTTTT.
hvs writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 8:53 PM
phil, you are comparing a
Zogby poll with a Gallup poll and offering the Gallup results to validate the Zogby result. BRILLIANT!

....you understand nothing of polls. Typical Barr voter whose level of understanding and foresight doesn't extend beyond the nose.

Republicans, vote for McCain....a vote for Barr is a vote higher personal income tax rates, higher capital gains rates and a stagnant economy with higher unemployment.

Barr voters are intent on punishing the Republican Party.....what they are fools to is that there will be ten years of a bad economy before folks wake up, long after they have cut off their nose to spite their face.
clarityseeker writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 8:58 PM
nothing short of...
Incredible.
Pasadena Phil writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 8:58 PM
hvs
You're right. Just when the Republicans have perfected the economy, we are about to give it over to someone who will mess it up. Marxism is Marxism. I don't have any preferences which party does it. The GOP is leaving after having plastered the world with dollars, debt and disorder. The banks are nationalized and Congress is already introducing bills to tell the banks who to lend money to.

So tell me, what exactly is Obama going to do that the Republicans haven't done already?

Brilliant! Oh I forget, he's black.
clarityseeker writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 8:59 PM
One Hot Minute...
You are missed.
Please send your forwarding address...
hvs writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 9:04 PM
Yeah play that race card Phil
it's just a reminder of what an intellectual midget your comments show you to be.

You ask...

"So tell me, what exactly is Obama going to do that the Republicans haven't done already?"

Raise taxes. Say it over and over: Obama is going to raise taxes.

And next time bring a coherent informed opinion with you.


Pasadena Phil writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 9:16 PM
That's right HVS
You guys have nothing. You backed a candidate whose only platform is that he is not Obama. No principles. You noseholders are McCain clones. All name-calling when you take time out from the fear-mongering and race-baiting.

Well your candidate failed to replace us conservatives who he chased out of the party, he failed get a single blue state in play and finds himself playing defense in two critical red states, and all polls are predicting a landslide electoral defeat next Tuesday.

Maybe you guys just weren't convincing with the fear and race thing? Maybe you were WRONG?

Good luck next time. Maybe it will make sense to you that it is better for Republicans to nominate a popular and established Republican than a maverick whose only friends are a handful of Dems.

Oh well, maybe you can rebuild the party around those Hillary lesbians and the 6% of Dems who openly swear they will never vote for a black.

Hahahahahahaha!
Barbara writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 9:30 PM
One little fact everyone is overlooking
Check historical polling data on both parties over the last 35 to 40 years. If one compares the polling results before an election with the actual election results each general election year, you will find that polling data favoring the democrat has always been over-estimated, and polling data that favored the republican has always been under-estimated. In other words, if the democrat wins, it's always by far less than what the polling data showed, and if the republican wins, it's always by far more than what the polling data showed. That is why McCain could win this election. The polling data consistently favors BO, but the percentage is not large enough to overcome the usual over-estimated percentages that always seem to accompany results favoring the democrat. And, if the data favoring McCain is under-estimated, which is likely, then he will win by 3 or 4 percent instead of Obama.

I don't like either candidate, but we're better off with the lesser of the two evils, McCain. At least he'll stave off the terrorists for another four years, while Obama will be waving the white flag and negotiating with them and appointing them to cabinet positions.
hvs writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 9:34 PM
keep ranting Phil
You've said nothing of substance, made several idiotic errors and still haven't made a coherent point.

You may yet turn this into a Republican 527 ad.
Gary writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 9:55 PM
Townhall has been hacked!
Ok, William Ayers, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Saul Alinsky, Tony Rezco, Franklin Raines, Rasheed Khalidi, Nancy “Pa-loser” Pelosi, Harry “Ridiculous” Reed, Oprah, Chris Matthews, Keith Olbermann, Charles Gibson, Brian Williams, Katie Couric, Anderson Cooper, all the staff at CNN… you have been outed! Quit hiding behind your lame monikers and quit posting your liberal / socialist propaganda tripe.
MrSurfTheWeb writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 9:57 PM
Obama thug tactics
The first article I read about Antie was that she was told not to talk to anyone about anything until after the election. That one TV station that dared ask some hardball questions of Biden is banned from access. Three newspapers that endorsed McCain tossed off Obama's plane. Threats of riots if he loses - And you want him to be your president??? McCain & Palin will win. He will take all the leaning Obama & toss up states = 300 electoral votes. Strong chance a few "solid" Obama states going McCain too.
miss vicky writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 10:13 PM
PassP 'O' ahead because of media,crisis
Obama should win with all his Liberal media help and protection. Sean Hannity on Fox, says this is the year Journalism died. Second, Obamas past Acorn associates etc., have corrupted our voting system and that reality will be revealed someday.
Mainly, McCain was leading until the financial crisis and now he has wrongly been held responsible for it. Further, the misguided 'O' has nearly 100% of his race voting him in and enough money to buy the White House! Even with all those advantages, the delusive Novice is barely ahead today. If we had more time McCain, a closer, would overtake the flimflam Socialist man! Slow minded and duped, misinformed voters are just beginning to see the holes in the Obama smokescreen. 2 little 2 late, I'm afraid. Buyers Remorse is pending! God help America
momofsix writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 10:27 PM
auntie Z attended his swearing in ceremo
Obama knew his Aunt was here and how to get in contact with her, as she was apparently invited and did attend his swearing in ceremony for the Senate in 2005. Also, why is it Obama only visits his grandma without his wife and kids? Are they not allowed to be in contact with his mother's mother? Not relevant, just wondering, because I would have thought the whole family could have visited Hawaii if she was sick.
Retch  writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 10:31 PM
Empty horseshit.
Amazing. One reads the RW blogs, and its as if the GOP has reached out to the bottom 20% of our population. Personally, I was going to sit this one out. Obama is nothing more than a media construct, and McCain is a babbling idiot, who would sell your hiney to China in a hot minute if he thought it would serve the interests of his corporate masters. However....

....enter Palin, whose incredibly inane contributions to the charade have made us the laughing stock of the world. Anyone supporting this woman is an idiot. To actually run a campaign by having some ignorant bimbo sputter on about "Joe Sixpack" or "Joe the Plumber" says all you need to know about John McCain. You geniuses should worry more about what Palin is doing to McCain's campaign rather than worrying about what Obama's aunt is doing to his.

And now, this Canadian prank phone call, that underscores for once and for all that this winking wacko Palin is waaaaaaaaaay out of her league, and should slither back to Alaska from whence she came, and see if she can't pollute another lake or too before the embarrassed Alaskan citizenry boots her fanny out of office.

She wasn't even a blip on the political scene, instead, she was a burp in a bad case of national indegestion. One hopes that after she passes, Alaska remembers to flush.
Pasadena Phil writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 10:35 PM
Vicky
McCain has NEVER been ahead on the RCP electoral map. He got the usual bump after the convention mainly because of Palin and that faded. It doesn't matter why he is behind. He doesn't have a platform other than "not Obama". Very inspiring.
K.G. writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 10:41 PM
mom: Bingo
Obama is a lying hypocrite--a liberation theology believer who ignores the whole Bible except for the tiny part of the Sermon on the Mount about helping the poor.

Even then, helping the poor is your job and mine; not his or Biden's. Obama blythely spouts scriptures about "being his brother's keeper" and "sister's keeper," but has NO problem whatever letting brother and auntie live in utter poverty until the Congress can pass his Global Poverty Act on our dime. ($2500 per US citizen added to the national debt.)

He explains his trip to Hawaii to see granny (not sick; had a hip operation) by saying: "A person who would not take care of his family cannot be counted on to take care of the country."

He flies 8 hours, costing untold $$, to see granny for one hour--and now the birth records in Hawaii are truly sealed.

This guy is a liar, a fake and a fraud. He cannot possibly deliver on all his stupid nanny-state promises except two. He will raise taxes and he will change the country forever.

People jumping for joy at his election are completely wacked. He and an unfettered Pelosi/Reid Congress will do untold damage.

BTW: The election in 3 days--and granny's "just fine." Michelle Obama's words, not mine.
Homer writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 10:49 PM
Retch writes:
...
You said nothing but you said it well.
On second thought, sort of well.
...
Poorly, actually.
kathy writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 10:49 PM
Pasadena Phil@9:16
I was just reading your most current rant and it dawned on me. This man is NOT a Republican or even an Independent. Why do you refer to "your" candidate. Or when you say maybe " you" guys weren't convincing with your fear and race thing.

I have been reading your tirades all day thinking to myself you sounded a little angry, somewhat smug, and about three quarters of your posts I can't make sense out of.

Then the light went on. You are a DEMOCRAT in disguise. I would respect you more if you were honest. This pretending to be one thing, but really being another runs in your Democrat party.

Now cast that vote for Bob Barr, but remember that most of us here will cast our vote for McCain/Palin which is one less vote for your true Messiah. Now fess up.
K.G. writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 10:53 PM
Retch: Please tell me...
...how Omama is one bit better than Palin. Obama is The One and Palin is a dog because that's the way the MSM is defining them.

If I had a job to get done, almost any job, my money would be on Palin, who at least lives in the real world and has actually accomplished some things.

Cindy McCain is involved in medical missions, helping the poorest among us. She helps builds racing cars. McCain has served in the military and Congress for decades. Name one thing Barack Obama has actually accomplished.

You cannot. It's Barack Obama that is wayyyyyyyyy outta his league, but nobody in the MSM wants to say the emporeror has no clothes. Or they are just twitterpated like little 13-year old girls with their first crush--with thrills running up and down their legs.

cottoneyed writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 11:03 PM
And Auntie Zeituni,
was spoken about in such a fond and loving way, too. Please, say this is not so! Barry, Barry, you are "the one", the one we have been waiting for, Barry, Auntie Zeituni, has been waiting too. Just a few bucks, here or there, Barry, it would have made such a difference in her life. When she attended your Senate swearing in ceremony in 05', Auntie Zeituni was a "fugitive", then, Barry. Great Gobs of Goshen, Barry, first your brother, living in the slums of Nairobi, and now, Auntie Zeituni, living in squalor, not far from your Harvard Law Review days. Barry, this does not look good in the compassion dept., Barry. Now, Barry, i know the "Messiah", Barry, he's a carpenter from, Nazareth, He raised the dead, healed the leper, and is the one and only redeemer of mankind, Barry, and your NO, "messiah", Barry, not by a long shot, Barry, you can't even help your own family, Barry, why on G-D's green earth would we believe you could help us. No Barry, your NOT the "messiah", and your NOT the President of these United States, either, no, NOT by a long shot, Barry, or whatever you go by now, Hussein!
Retch  writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 11:17 PM
K.G.....?
Do you see me heaping accolades on Obama? Thats the trouble with the RW flock of bleating ovine idiots, just because someone is critical of McCain or Palin, they automatically assume that the critical person is pro-Obama. The ONLY reason I am voting for Obama is because it is a vote against this ignorant emabarrassment Palin getting anywhere nears the reins of national power. And I meant what I said; You have to be a blithering idiot to actually support someone like Palin getting anywhere near the Oval Office. That applies if you are right, left, in the middle, or in outer space.

"Joe Sixpack"??? "Joe the Plumber"??? Obama's aunt? Are you people friggin' insane? Retarded?? Is that really the level of discourse you four-legged-animals-that-bray think is appropriate for a campaign for the Presidency? Its as if the McCain strategists all got together and decided "Lets reach out to the stupid ones".
foxmustang writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 11:18 PM
I love the part....
about "Obama is going to cut your taxes".....
LOL....(uncontrollably)
the Dems ALWAYS promise this and NEVER deliver...
the ONLY thing you can always rely on the Dems to cut......
is the Defense budget.....
Carter did it......
Reagan had to build the military back up.....
Clinton did it also......
GWB had to, once again, rebuild the military...
for a strong national defense.....VOTE REPUBLICAN!!!
if you prefer a pantywaist, milk-toast America......vote Democratic.....
Vladimir Putin prefers you choose option "B"...
Catman Joe writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 11:30 PM
Recht
"Its as if the McCain strategists all got together and decided "Lets reach out to the stupid ones". "

Rather obvious at this point
Moshe writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 11:30 PM
Hypocritical
I love how McCain supporters whine and cry when the media digs up dirt on poor, innocent Joe the Plumber based on the logic, "He's not running for President, there is no reason to vet him", while simultaneously cheering gleefully when some dirt on Obama's aunt, who last time I checked also wasn't running for public office, comes up.
foxmustang writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 11:31 PM
Retch....
"Palin is ignorant embarassment...."
hmmm......
wasn't it Biden who said that Pres.FDR, upon the onset of the Great Depression, addressed the nation via TV....????
onset of depression Oct 1929.....FDR not Pres. until Jan 1933.....AND NO TV EITHER DATE!!!
as for Obama......
"been to 57 states, 2 more to go"....?????
AND.....Rick Warren asking of Obama...."when does life begin?"
Obama...."uh..uh..uh..uh..uh..above my pay grade"
HUH?????
What a panty-waist fence-riding answer.....
almost like voting "present".....
AND....media asks Obama....."what would you do about Russia invading Republic of Georgia?"
Obama....uh..uh..uh..uh..uh..I'd turn 'em over to the U N Security Council"
DUH!!!!...Russia is on said council and would certainly veto any resolution against them!!!
Obama....JUST SAY NO!!!!!
Katy writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 11:32 PM
The creatures under the bridge are back
These annoying trolls seems to love this site. Curious...You trolls all sound the same. shtoopid....reeeeally shtoopid. sheesh.

Hey folks, want to see Obama's ideal world? 1984 is coming. This should play every hour until Tuesday on the tube. yikes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxReTKWXxNg&eurl=http://www. redstate.com/diaries/absentee/2008/nov/01/big-brobama/
Retch  writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 11:35 PM
Are you */%## kidding me?????
"GWB had to, once again, rebuild the military"

That easily qualifies as one of the stupidest things I have seen said on ANY blog, right, left, or indifferent.
foxmustang writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 11:39 PM
Moshe....
the big difference between "Joe the Plumber" and "Auntie Obama".....
is 'ol Joe is an AMERICAN CITIZEN....
and, alas, Auntie Obama is an ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT...
One is a "law-abider"(Joe)....
the other is a "law-breaker"(Auntie)....
(yes it IS a crime not to leave when you're legally deported)...
spin that one lefties.....
foxmustang writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 11:42 PM
Retch....
you hate GWB so much you just can't admit the facts.......
GET BACK ON THOSE MEDS IMMEDIATELY!!!!
Julie writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 11:50 PM
foxmustang
Thank you, there is a HUGE difference between Joe W. and Obama's aunt. Joe had no reason to be investigated-all he did was ask a legitimate question. On the other hand, Obama's aunt has lived in the USA illegally for 4 years!

Moshe, why are you an Obama supporter?
Retch  writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 11:53 PM
Foxmustang.....
Care to share with this forum exactly how GWB has "rebuilt the military"?

If not, I suggest you pipe down, you're making an idiot of yourself.
Catman Joe writes: Saturday, November, 01, 2008 11:59 PM
Katy
"These annoying trolls seems to love this site. Curious...You trolls all sound the same. shtoopid....reeeeally shtoopid. sheesh."

More entertaining here.

jose
Dose of Reality writes: Sunday, November, 02, 2008 12:01 AM
Here are the numbers
In 1992, the year before Bill Clinton took office the end strengths were:
Army: 610,450
Navy: 541,883
Marines: 184,529
Air Force: 470,315

In 2000, the year before George W. Bush took office:
Army: 481,669
Navy: 373,692
Marines: 173,371
Air Force: 354,321

As of December 2007:
Army: 502,466
Navy: 345,566
Marines: 178,477
Air Force: 345,024
Moshe writes: Sunday, November, 02, 2008 12:03 AM
foxmustang
"One is a "law-abider"(Joe)...."

First - as I'm sure you know, Joe has a tax lien against him for not paying his taxes, so he doesn't hold the moral high ground you want to cede to him.

Second, this is a deflection from the question of how Obama aunt's immigration status reflects on *HIS* qualifications for President.
Retch  writes: Sunday, November, 02, 2008 12:07 AM
Wow.
I just can't let this one ride.....

"GWB had to, once again, rebuild the military"

Foxmustang, did you say something that stupid because you are a Republican, and somehow you think thats what a Republican is supposed to say?

Or did you say it because you actually believe it?

Neither scenario is very flattering to you. My bet, if there are any actual Conservatives here, honest ones, they are shaking their heads in amazement that you would say something that dumb.

Of course, all you need do is show us what facts you based your assertion on, and demonstrate to us that you actually know what the hell you are talking about. But, uhm, I don't hold out much hope of that. I would guess your last three posts are your best efforts, and you've already pretty much blown your wad.
Julie writes: Sunday, November, 02, 2008 12:10 AM
Catman Joe
What an astonishing statement. So you just consider this entertainment?

I guess it will be truly entertaining to you if Obama wins, our economy goes in the tank, Obama appoints judges to the Supreme Court who have no respect for the law, and also assigns a National Police.

Do you call that entertainment?
foxmustang writes: Sunday, November, 02, 2008 12:11 AM
Retch.....
'ol Slick Willie gutted the military(as all Dems do).......
GWB inherited this depleted military and almost simultaneously had to deal with the attacks of 9/11/2001........
Thank God GWB was willing to commit his backing and loyalty to the military.....
Clinton let Al Qaeda attack us at least 4 times with little or no response....
1993..Truck bombing of World Trade Ctr 1
1996..Truck bombing of our military barracks, the Khobar Towers, in Saudi Arabia
1998..Bombings of our Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania
2000..Bombing of USS Cole, docked in Yemen
Many killed....
Clinton response...throw a few random cruise missiles
result...embolden the bully(Al Qaeda), encouraging the attacks of 9/11/2001...
If Clinton had done ANYTHING.....the deaths of 9/11/2001 almost certainly would not have happened. Heck...the Sudan had Osama Bin Laden and offered him to Pres. Clinton......Clinton took a "pass".....afraid of negative world opinion....
Clinton wears the blood of a lot of those attacks on his hands.......
Thank goodness GWB won in 2000....
'ol Gore would have consulted world opinion before acting.....if he EVEN acted.....
might have enacted the "Slick Willie cruise missile strategy"....
(translates.....totally ineffective and weak to boot)....
Retch  writes: Sunday, November, 02, 2008 12:18 AM
Dose of reality......
So, its your contention that numbers of troops constitute a successful "rebuilding of the military"?

Come on, we aren't idiots here, are we? Is that really your contention? Are we to completely disregard "stop loss"? Have you seen the time stats projected for the rebuilding of equipment and military resources? Truth be told, Bush has stretched the army almost to the breaking point. You know it, and I know it. To parade stats like that before us is disingenuous and misleading. Further, to do it without providing a source is transparently cowardly.
Julie writes: Sunday, November, 02, 2008 12:18 AM
Moshe!
Joe the plumber's credentials were never in question! Nor should they be, or yours, for that matter.

All Joe did was ask a legitimate question. If you had asked a question of a candidate, would you expect this type of scrutiny?

And by the way, I hear that some of the higher-ups in Obama's campaign also have tax liens against them. So what, right? Yeah, right, it's a legal issue. Let them (and Joe) deal with them.
Moshe writes: Sunday, November, 02, 2008 12:19 AM
Julie
I'm not, I'm voting for Bob Barr. I'm a Libertarian. Believe it or not, not all the people who call you morons on your BS are lib Dems.
Dose of Reality writes: Sunday, November, 02, 2008 12:21 AM
I posted the facts
With no commentary or opinion. I assumed you and others would add your own....
foxmustang writes: Sunday, November, 02, 2008 12:22 AM
Retch.....
BTW.....I'm a stud....FYI..I still have "one more wad to blow".....open wide....
Hey...it just occurred to me.....name of Retch...yeah it fits.....you might not want to commit "certain acts" if they make you "retch"...

LMAO!!!!!!!!
Moshe writes: Sunday, November, 02, 2008 12:22 AM
Julie
Joe is not running for President. Neither is Obama's aunt. Those are facts.

So, using Logic 101, if it is not ok for the media to dig up dirt on those who are not running for office, then it has to apply across the aboard, you can't have separate rules for those whose political viewpoints are in line with yours and and different ones for those whose aren't.
Retch  writes: Sunday, November, 02, 2008 12:24 AM
Goes in the tank????
"I guess it will be truly entertaining to you if Obama wins, our economy goes in the tank...."

Hmmmm, uh, its not "in the tank" now? You're gonna blame that on Obama, eh?

Whatever. Please see my post above, where I lay out the McCain campaign strategy, then reflect.
kathy writes: Sunday, November, 02, 2008 12:26 AM
Moshe
I'll answer that last question. From illegal alien Auntie, the two reverends, the crooked real estate developer friend, the terrorist, the spokesman for the PLO, the blabber mouth VP.....the list goes on. (I know I forgot some)

Doesn't this make YOU question his qualifications to be President? It seems he has no normal friends.

He is running around checking out Joe the Innocent plumber, when he should be checking out his own family and most of all his friends.

You simply cannot have so many skeletons in the closet, and be an innocent bystander here. He is a good talker, but there is something out of kilter here.

If you can't see it, just call it woman's intuition and leave it at that.
Julie writes: Sunday, November, 02, 2008 12:27 AM
Moshe,
I never called you, or anyone else, a moron. Never. Thanks for the clarification.
Barbara writes: Sunday, November, 02, 2008 12:28 AM
Jestack: Your memory is short
How quickly you forget. On Election day in 2004, the polls were predicting a Kerry landslide. And that was a lie.
Julie writes: Sunday, November, 02, 2008 12:40 AM
Kathy, Barbara,
and foxmustang and Retch,

I would like to repeat Kathy's post, call it women's intuition. Were going to win.
Retch  writes: Sunday, November, 02, 2008 12:41 AM
"one more wad to blow"
You're a real credit to this site, Fox. I'm sure the owners are thrilled to have you. You're doing your party a real service.

Now, you wanna talk about re-enlistment stats, lowered enlistment standards, and equipment replacement timelines and costs, or is your whole rap based on slimey and immature rants about blow jobs?
Gary writes: Sunday, November, 02, 2008 12:47 AM
Propaganda for 500 Alex…
This is so entertaining! The dichotomy is, I really loathe these ignoramuses, part of me wants them to crawl back into their holes; however I do like when they open their big mouths and little minds exposing their stupidity.

‘The truth has a well known liberal bias’.

I really do find this find this entertaining, laughable…in a morbid way I actually feel sorry for these liberal numbskulls.

Reading the posts of these sheep has given me clarity and a better understanding of the warped sense of reality these mindless followers posses and why they fervently follow the misguided Obama.

These are some quotes from a famous socialist you might or might not understand:

“All great movements are popular movements. They are the volcanic eruptions of human passions and emotions, stirred into activity by the ruthless Goddess of Distress or by the torch of the spoken word cast into the midst of the people.”

“By the skillful and sustained use of propaganda, one can make a people see even heaven as hell or an extremely wretched life as paradise”

“If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed”

“Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it”

“All propaganda has to be popular and has to accommodate itself to the comprehension of the least intelligent of those whom it seeks to reach”

“I use emotion for the many and reserve reason for the few”

“Sooner will a camel pass through a needle's eye than a great man be "discovered" by an election”

“The art of leadership... consists in consolidating the attention of the people against a single adversary and taking care that nothing will split up that attention”

“The great strength of the totalitarian state is that it forces those who fear it to imitate it”
Retch  writes: Sunday, November, 02, 2008 12:55 AM
Jestak....
How dare you intrude on the discussion with facts and sourcing. You must be one of those terrorist lovin' socialists.

Julie writes: Sunday, November, 02, 2008 1:03 AM
Gary
I understand.
Retch  writes: Sunday, November, 02, 2008 1:04 AM
"With no commentary or opinion....."
.....or source.

And without a source, we really have no idea whether the numbers are "facts", or "opinion", do we?

What was your source? Or was there a reason you didn't provide it?
my2centsplus writes: Sunday, November, 02, 2008 1:14 AM
Kathy
Forgive my ignorance, but what does Obama's aunt have to do with his ability to govern? nada. And if she did not tell him she was denined, would he have had a reason to do a background check and get his aunt kicked out?

Meanwhile, McCain thinks that he can't find anyone go to to Arizona and pick lettuse for 50 bucks an hour.

Obama taking this one by 9pm. I hope the GOP will regroup and find their voice again, and stop this idiot direction the far, far right religious nutters have taken us. This is our reward. Obama.
Retch  writes: Sunday, November, 02, 2008 1:15 AM
polls were predicting a Kerry landslide
Barbara, in 2004 I was actually residing on the planet Earth, in the United States, and do not recall events unfolding as you describe them. Perhaps the discrepancy can be explained if we assume that you were on the same planet Foxmustang was on. You know, that one with the separate reality, where Bush "rebuilds the military"?

Of course, I could easily be mistaken, and your recollection of events may well be reality based. So in the interest of clarification, would you be so kind as to provide us with a bit of substantiation? Perhaps the source for your assertion about the polls predicting a "Kerry landslide"?
Julie writes: Sunday, November, 02, 2008 1:26 AM
Retch,
We don't need a source, silly boy. We had nothing to prove to begin with. And Auntie doesn't have a "source", just a nephew. Who wrote about her in his first memoir, then forgot about her.

Oh, I forgot, Dreams From my Father is off limits, right? Who really wrote it?
Moshe writes: Sunday, November, 02, 2008 1:26 AM
Earth to Julie
"I would like to repeat Kathy's post, call it women's intuition. Were going to win."

Who's we? McCain promise you a cabinet post if he won or something?

Unless you're invited to the private victory party, it's HIM not WE
kleindo writes: Sunday, November, 02, 2008 3:27 AM
UCLA Swimmer
The people with whom Obama has chosen to surround himself are not accidental. In his book, Dreams from My Father, he writes about being attracted to the Marxist professors when he was in college. He talks about choosing his friends carefully with a purpose.If he wasn't just making up an interesting narrative then his associations do matter and speak volumes about his own character. They should be examined. If he is his brother's keeper, as he has stated, then he should care enough to know about his Aunt and half-brother and with the great fortune he has been blessed with, to help them. It is not coincidence that brought Obama together with Tony Rezco, William Ayers, Jeremiah Wright, Rashid Khalidi, Father Pfleger, Louis Farakahn, Frank Davis, ACORN, et.al. It is a measure of how he has lived his life and the choices he has made.
If these choices were made through his ideological leanings and sincerely held beliefs then he should own them and explain how they have helped him become the man that he is. That is not what he is doing, however. He is dissembling, disassociating and obfuscating the extent of all of these relations. This should set off alarm bells for all of us, if we are being honest. Either he has been using these people for political and financial expedience on his rise to political heights or he is lying to America about who he really is. Either way it deserves to be thoroughly examined by a free and skeptical press. A press free of ideological constraints that many have chosen to place on themselves. Where are the enterprising young Woodwards and Bernsteins who should be applying the smell test to Obamas glaring lack of candor in dealing with these relationships.
Kenny Z writes: Sunday, November, 02, 2008 8:27 AM
Obama polls
Obama screwed Hillary by going after the delegates and forgetting about the common folk. Obama will screw the people by going after the electoral votes. The belief here is the people really don't matter one iota, the electoral vote is where it's at. He doesn't care about the country folks, he just cares about the big cities and his ever present teleprompter.
Ana Mus writes: Sunday, November, 02, 2008 8:59 AM
Don't forget "Uncle Omar" also
lives in Boston and was evicted from a housing unit for NOT paying rent, but was able to make an offer of $59,000 for a condo.

Odd too that neither his aunt or his uncle use the name Obama even though they were born to Hussein Onyanga OBAMA.

Maybe Michelle thinks she should have exclusive rights to the name "Obama?"
Pasadena Phil writes: Sunday, November, 02, 2008 9:39 AM
New Zogby poll
Yesterday a fluke Zogby poll had McCain leading by 1%. Today? Obama still up 5.7% where Zogby has had him forever.

http://www.zogby.com/main.htm

Hahahahahahahaha!

Yeah, yeah I know. The only poll that counts is the ballot. Also knows as "The Loser's Creed".

Mook writes: Sunday, November, 02, 2008 1:23 PM
Elian Gonzalz, Aunt Zeituni
Obama's Aunt Zeituni has been able to secure US govt welfare and defy a deportation order for years while cashing govt checks.

Elian Gonzalez, a low level case was elevated to urgent priority for deportation because Cuban Americans tend to oppose Democrats, so his deportation was elevetated in priority as political payback

http://patdollard.com/wp-content/uploads/gonzalaz.jpg

Vote Obama!
kathy writes: Sunday, November, 02, 2008 2:02 PM
Why
Isn't Auntie gone yet?
Tibor writes: Sunday, November, 02, 2008 2:38 PM
Obama the liar
How can anybody vote for this guy? he stand for everything that is wrong. His association are nothing but Marxist, socialist, terrorists bums.

Please think twice before voting to vote for the right person and that is McCain/Palin.

Remember these quotes:

"I'm not a Marxist"
by: Karl Marx 1883


"I'm not a socialist"
by: Barrac Obama 2008


God bless the United of America

J writes: Sunday, November, 02, 2008 5:54 PM
Its a shame really
A British Newspaper actually broke the story. Suprise that the US MSM didnt break it. They examined every inch of Joe the Plumber and Sarah Palin's lives but refuse to touch the Anointed One along with his 3 Stooges side kick Slow Jow.

Not that its a big deal, but this does show BHO's lack of family unity. "I didnt know..." PUULEEEASE!!!! How many times can we let him get away with that? Kinda like those 7 missing minutes on the Watergate Tapes.

What the HELL are you people thinking? You have a candidate that is openly opposed to everything the Constitution stands for, has demonstrated an extreme violation of integrity with regards to voting and censorship; and associations that would prevent him from getting the most minimal Security Clearances...and I keep hearing people oodling over that its a dream come true because he's black.

You people need to listen to the candidates with blind folds on, listen to actually what they are saying and how it impacts our fundamental American values. Its not about color, its about the future of our country. And the big question is: Do you want a country where you decide what to do or your government decides for you? Wake Up!

While I dont think McCain has a profound vision in mind, I do think he will do the right thing, whereas Obama will do what he wants. Which if you lemmings would do your homework and research your candidate, would find that he wants to control your lives and dole out allowance for you doing nothing. Great a nation of under achievers!!!!

I think there needs to be an IQ and Psych eval to be able to vote. This is ridiculous.

Johnny writes: Monday, November, 03, 2008 12:17 AM
The Future
What shall we do if Obama is elected ?

I'm a Marine...and I'll NOT crawl into a shell to hide !
Period. EVER !
I will fight to keep this country strong and FREE until the day that I die !
And God willing...yep...I BELIEVE ....I'll live a lot longer ! 51 does not a DEAD MARINE make that made it back from any war.
So everyone listen up...we MUST make SURE that the country doesn't go straight to hell because of this election and it's outcome. Guess...it's a wakeup call for alot of us..myself included I suppose...that we became...pretty damn complacent.
That's not good for a free society such as we've always had. Don't hang your heads should this ...Obama fella get elected. GET OUT AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT ! Turn OFF the TV....and MAKE A DIFFERENCE...use your skills...before you are forced to face East and chant.
Point made I believe !

So easy to rant...so difficult to achieve results..don't let this radical ruin your life or anyone you know.
He's NOT RIGHT...NOT for this country...so he should just be .....as the Catholics would say...
Excommunicated. Let's see...did I say that right ?
Think so !

Always an American Patriot,

Johnny Tyler

Johnny
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