Let me REPEAT it for you...
"Further, the National Right to Life Committee unequivocally condemns any such acts of violence regardless of motivation. The pro-life movement works to protect the right to life and increase respect for human life. THE UNLAWFUL USE OF VIOLENCE IS DIRECTLY CONTRARY TO THAT GOAL."
Yet YOU say... "know what is good for them hence why you are not going to see any more heated abrotion rhetoric even from the likes of Perkins."
Really! Or what?? Is that some kind of threat??
You're just an ignorant fool!
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This is the confirmation O was looking for to uphold the classification of anti-abortion citizens as dangerous. Now he can look good as he begins ... what? what will he do to us now? Anyone who loves babies is now a militant terrorist suspect. We're in trouble now. |
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scared.....
You're a true whack-job aren't you??? HA HA HA HA
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I bring this up because it is unknown if Tiller's job had anything to do with his murder.
For all we know, Tiller was sleeping with the shooter's wife. Adultery has caused many a man to become a murderer.
Whatever the reason, Tiller's family needs our prayers and comfort. |
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I think if you check around you'll find the current consensus is the guy was a pro life activist. Posts of his (the guy in custody, Scott Roeder) concerning Tiller and his efforts to put an end to his business are showing up on operationrescue.org. They talk of going to his church and talking to his pastors etc.
Dude also had priors for misuse of explosives.
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This is the post that is believed to be attributed to the guy currently in custody... "Scott Roeder Says: May 19th, 2007 at 4:34 pm Bleass [sic] everyone for attending and praying in May to bring justice to Tiller and the closing of his death camp. Sometime soon, would it be feasible to organize as many people as possible to attend Tillers church (inside, not just outside) to have much more of a presence and possibly ask questions of the Pastor, Deacons, Elders and members while there? Doesn’t seem like it would hurt anything but bring more attention to Tiller."
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And you're right, Tiller's family does need our prayers and comfort.
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1) Glenn Beck juices up a crowd urging them in subtle and not-very-subtle ways to consider armed insurrection against an elected government. "But he's just a comedian!"
2) Sean Hannity allows on his website a poll as to whether Americans would prefer to express their discontent with the Obama government by means of military coup, armed rebellion, or secession. "Freedom of speech!"
3) Rush Limbaugh tells his listeners (not suggests: emphatically tells them) that President Bill Clinton has murdered Vince Foster, President Obama is a militant Black Muslim, and Judge Sonia Sotomayor is a racist. "But he's just an entertainer!".
4) Sarah Palin skillfully demonstrates her specialty, turning a crowd into a seething, angry mob screaming for the death of her political opponent. "That's just politics."
5) Bernard Goldberg writes a book naming the 100 most dangerous liberals. A man then shoots a couple of liberals in a Tennessee church and says they are symbols of the 100 named by Goldberg that need to be killed.
6) Bill O'Reilly identifies a doctor who performs abortions as Tiller the Baby Killer and subsequently the doctor is murdered (in church). The anti-abortion movement is shocked, shocked.
Please. How stupid do you think we are? And how many townhall threats of killing Democrats, liberals, and homosexuals do we have to read, how many loving masturbatory accounts of big guns, how many descriptions of buried arsenals and magazines, how many warnings to government agents who may be unwise enough to enforce an unpopular law, do we have to see in print before Conservatives start acknowledging that they a hate group? The civilized world already knows this to be true. |
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About forty million Americans are against abortion under any circumstances. About 150 million would like some limitation on abortion, often eliminating third term abortions, which were the bread and butter (and Mercedes-Benzes) of Dr. Tiller. One of this hundred and fifty million was a nutter and shot him. Now the Left is having the vapours over right wing terrorism. The thousands of late term babies, who could have survived outside of the womb, are forgotten completely by them.
There's a police saying: "Live freaky, die freaky." Actions have consequences. This man lived by the killing of mostly viable fetuses. And it drove one person right over the edge. Sad for the doctor, sad for us, sad for the murderer who will pay the price, but not sad at all for the children who will live because Dr. Tiller was one of a kind, and very hard to replace. That would be a nice epitaph for him, wouldn't it? |
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Well sad that this has come to this level of violence, But I must say couldnt have happened to a nicer guy.... |
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That comment is just stupid.... |
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is overshadowed by the realization that hundreds of first cries of innocent babes will be heard now that he is gone.
You may express all the regrets you wish about the manner of his death--but the truth stands tall--he was a murderer of the innocent. This day--he stood before his Maker and justice, for eternity, was meted out.
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Killing Dr. Tiller was illegal, it was wrong, and it was a terrible thing to do. Dr. Tiller's killing of VIABLE near to birth fetuses may have been legal, but it was also horribly wrong. Most Americans would agree with what I just stated. It is those legal killings by the thousands that so enraged one person out of the 150 million or so Americans who were outraged by Dr. Tiller's behavior that pushed the nutter over the edge. Tiller's murder was a terrible shame, but his killing was a greater shame. How many thousands will live because there are virtually no doctors willing to engage in late term abortion in his place? That's the only good that comes from this whole tragic affair. |
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Who was the comedian who did crazy stuff and said, "THE DEVIL MADE ME DO IT!"
Perhaps the individual wo killed TILLER the KILLER can say, "GOD MADE ME DO IT!"
In any event, since ROE v WADE baby killers have murdered more than 50,000,000 babies who were in their MOTHER'S WOMB or by PARTIAL BIRTH which kills the baby by stabbing the baby's skull which is just outside of the MOTHER'S WOMB!
Wonder why these mothers? are not counseled on the consequences of becoming co-conspirators in murdering their babies??
GOOD RIDDANCE AND R.I.P. TILLER THE BABY KILLER! |
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person as Tiller was, NO ONE had a right to kill him.
And the ONLY ONE responsible for killing Tiller was THE PERSON who pulled the trigger... And that person more than likely did not have it together (kind of like a lot of you who are irrational and flying off the handle) before you know what happened.
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I think you're watching too much television especially Fox News. |
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EVERYTHING IS ALWAYS SOMEBODY ELSE'S FAULT!
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"May you all stfu about abortion. It is legal. If you don't like that, then pass an amendment." No, lonny, we won't. Most Americans want limitations on abortions (75%), but the Supreme Court has struck down every single law we've passed to do so, including parental notification, a ban in the third trimester, or a ban except in the case of incest or rape. Late-term abortions, which kill a viable fetus that can survive outside the womb have been banned by law, only to have the law overturned. So the will of the people means nothing. That frustration is what produced the violence. The majority want limitations, but the court stops them. The majority knows abortion on demand in the third trimester is wrong, but we can't have our will enacted into law. If a minority of 23% who want abortion legal under any circumstances prevails over the majority, you're bound to fine one nut out of over two hundred million who will do something violent. It's just reality. |
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Now if his name was Tiller the troll killer than I would be fighting mad! |
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When have you ever written more than 5 consecutive sentences that weren't just lame insults?
You dislike Lilly's post because you couldn't put two thoughts together if your hair was on fire. |
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This man protected HUNDREDS of PEDOPHILES and bragged about his collection of SKULLS.
See hrrp://www.BabyKiller.TK |
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The guy murdered babies for money. No wonder the Left is making a hero out of him.
Say, wasn't John Brown from Kansas? And didn't his raid at Harper's Ferry kind of kick off the Civil War?
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Please do not ever have children or be responsible for any. You are not fit.
Robert has it right. Its sad a nut was driven to this act (again). The sad irony was that it happened at church. He was living a lie. How does one be so close to his God yet so far off his path? You have to live a lie...
There is nothing to defend here libs. A few thousand babies were also terminated this weekend. Sixty thousand children died of starvation and poverty in the world this weekend. My heart still has quite a few thousand more hearts to grieve for before I get to him. |
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You're excited aren't you? This guy Tiller got blown away and you and Lonny jumped out of your chairs and went YES! We got another reason to bash the cons! OH HAPPY DAY!! His body wasn't cold and you fired up TH and went into action.
Didn't you?
Don't believe me?
Reread your 8:02 post.
There's joy in your words.
You guys love this......I mean you love it!!
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Limbaugh, Hannity, Coulter? Yeah, I think that inciting this violence is their answer to that question.
This killer needs to be sent to Gitmo, NOW. No stateside maximum security for him because he might infect other like-minded rightwing zealots and we can't have that scary lack of security here in America. We can't take the chance that more gunslinging, murderous zealotry that is part and parcel of rightwing violence here in the US will no doubt spread via Hannity, Coulter and O'Reilly - as it already has. We need to shut down the terrorism right here on our own soil that is being perpetrated by wingnuts stupid enough to listen to Billo, Hannity and Beck as they focus their twisted wrath on liberals and those who aren't in lockstep with their rank ideology, and BELIEVE the rot that they spew.
Domestic Rightwing Terrorism - that is your GOP today. |
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You don't care about Tiller. His death however makes it possible for you vent, to drag your butt across the floor to stop the itching caused by the bug up your butt. |
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Slavery was legal, too. That didn't make it moral and I think you would be the first to say that the abolitionists were right to press on.
Why is it that you leftists will excuse violence when committed by the right people? For example, the riots after the Rodney King verdict were widely justified as pent up rage over an injustice. Physician heal thyself.
That being said, I would add to my fellow conservatives that you should reconsider rejoicing in this lawless act by Scott Roeder. Vigilantism can never be excused. The civil magistrate is the only one authorized by God to execute capital criminals. When the civil magistrate is not carrying out his God-given responsibilities, God says "Vengeance is Mine, *I* will repay." Civil disobedience does not make our society more just.
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Frank writes: Sunday, May, 31, 2009 11:05 PM marty STFU you terrorist scumbag.
Arch says.
So this is what Frank considers debate? I think this latest post says it all for him. He is ignorant as a water bug and it shows. |
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Just like the "few bad apples" of Abu Ghraib's nightmarish misadventure, you want to claim this is a case of one sad individual. Riiiiight. But then you've got two other "sad individuals" who most recently took to killing innocent victims for their rightwing cause, pushed to the brink by your mouthpieces on FoxNews and EIB who misinform and incite violence each and every day. Seems that the Party that whined, moaned and shrieked about a has-been radical in the '60s forgot about the violent streak within your own ranks via Timothy McVeigh and the pattern of nutjobs killing abortion doctors, UU church members and police officers responding to 911 calls.
And don't forget that the Party that brings us anti-choice and death as the answer to that debate, also brings us death on the battlefield for lies, and death from inaction in the face of terrorist threats in the lead up to 9/11. Your hands are not clean, and you can't blame it on a few bad apples or sad individuals. |
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the gaggle of trolls inhabiting this site can be depended upon to get an extreme case of the nasty's. For them to admit that we pro lifers don't condone the actions of the person would not fit the template of propaganda they need to justify the fact that they are complicit in the murders of 50 million Americans in this country alone and by their vote and support of the person occupying the White House, millions more. There is NO way to escape the fact that the blood of these babies are on the hands of the person occupying the White House, and every single person who voted for said person..the MOST radical pro abort ever elected. Tillars victims are in the Hands of God, as are all the other aborted victims we pro lifers don't need to have had Tiller dead because we knew one day he would have to 'splain himself to the Almighty. Jesus said "What does it profit a man, that he gain the whole world and lose his own soul." Tiller made millions, doesn't do him any good now. I would suggest the trolls stop projecting their own evil thoughts on prolifers..we believe in LIFE..get it! Tiller deserved prison for his crimes. |
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The most accurate and relevant post in this thread... |
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Again...Do not have children youhave no ability or compassion for such a task.
As far as your Abu comment;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJygJQNQHkw&NR=1 |
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go ahead monitor me frank. |
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If I'm a terrorist scumbag what do you call the shooter. I reported Tiller's death before TH did and you were the first to respond with a nasty remark about me.
Liberals are blaming conservatives for Tiller's death while the shooter fades into the background. You don't care about Tiller, his death is something you can gripe about.
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Frank. Don't be so naive. It is done all the time by you immoral libtards to gain political power. This guy was set up big time. I wouldn't doubt that some of your money will have made its way into his bank account. You cannot believe everything is what it is reported now can you? A little selective reasoning is not beyond your character now is it? |
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Listen to you, part of the rightwing zealotry, telling someone ELSE not to have children! Hah, what a crock. It's okay that other people's kids are killed in a war of lies that you cheerlead for, and it's okay for kids to die because of poor healthcare reform at the root of wingnut-driven refusal to care for underprivileged children, in utero or out. But just listen to you whine about "compassion" like you've got a clue what that word even means!
Man, the teabags on you are just GINORMOUS. |
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No doubt, the killer, the miserable loser was a Republican. |
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You know nothing about Dr. Tiller and you know even less about the shooter, but here you are attacking me. Why?
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Frank writes: Sunday, May, 31, 2009 11:40 PM arch+marty Arch-you need a new tin foil hat. Go make one now.
Marty-How about this; you're both terrorist scumbags? Better? Good.
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Frank. I bet you know everything! Even when your sister is in estrus as your father starts tasting funny! Yep! You know everything. |
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Again, you lack any nuturing abilities as demonstrated by your postings. I wouldn't have ever let you babysit.
Get your shots and come to Mozambique this summer. We are building a network of orphanages. Its an ongoing project and you are welcome to join in. Otherwise your blame game carries no weight. (at least go volunteer at the boy and girls club).
Kids die in this country because they have parents that do not take good care of them depsite an abundance. Explain to me how its my fault 5 year olds are getting kidneystones from the cr@ppy diet mom feeds them? And lets not even bring up Diabetes and fault.
Most children die in other countries everyday not from war, but from poverty, waterborn disease, and malaria. If you cared, you would let DDT kill the mosquitos(an anti green idea), donate money for water well pumps, and maybe even sponsor a child or two with a small check instead of all those lattes at Sbux. So I am asking? Do you do anything to help besides post here?
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Frank writes: Sunday, May, 31, 2009 11:51 PM arch I know you're a jerk-again not an issue in dispute but a fact.
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The truth hurts yes?
Frank. You are not worthy to be a citizen of this nation with your political views. The fact that I am a jerk to enemies of human liberty and freedom is a badge of honor to me. I thank you my friend! |
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is the shooter. He was considered dangerous by those who knew him. He had a post-it note in his car with the phone number of Operation Rescue. He has been involved with anti-abortion groups since the early 1990s. He visited Shelley Shannon, she was in prison for the 1993 shooting of Tiller.
He's a "Freeman" not a conservative. His car had a red rose in the window, the rose is a symbol of anti-abortion groups and symbol of a fish with Jesus in the center of it.
Anything else you want to know hop on over to the Huffington Post. |
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You need not ask - I don't babysit apes anyway.
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Quick poll.
How many posts can express what a congenial citizen Frank is?
Feel free to let it all hang out! |
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You are right. I am a zealot. I have been found out. Thank you for saving me. I am forever grateful.
Somehow my last thread didnt post. So again. How is it my fault 5 year children are getting kidney stones in this country? Its the parents fault! Don't blame a lack of healthcare the fault of a poor example of nuturing
As far as your charge that War is the fault of children dieing everywhere. Mostly its poverty;
http://www.first8.org/index_eng.html |
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. . . and nitwits here are calling him a Republican? Prime insanity. I suppose the Baader-Meinhoff gang were all members of the Democratic party, too. And the Weathermen, too. Oops! A lot of the Weathermen ARE Democrats now. Bad example. |
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So thats it? I do not babysit apes? Then you don't babysit at all? Most lib kids I have met are little monkeys out of control that call their parents by first name...
Honestly, tell us all what compassionate volunteer works you are involved in? It'd be refreshing to know that your bleeding liberal heart is doing good in the world, as it should be.
Again, you are invited to help on the Africa mission if you are searching for a way to help. |
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You should be happy about one thing Rach. We do a da-n good job of funding abortions here,and now, all over the world!
A great triumph for healthcare funding! (insert laughing like Dr Evil...) |
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Frank writes: Monday, June, 01, 2009 12:18 AM arch-ah the hubris yeah people are just running to take your poll.
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My point exactly!
See what a congenial citizen you are considered?
I still see no defenders of your depravity! |
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At the risk of encouraging you to post further, no one is responding to arch's poll because we don't want to make you the subject of this thread, as much as you would like that. This thread is about the murder of Dr. Tiller and why it happened. Sorry, Mr. Ego. |
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NOT!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5atn-FwfNQM&feature=channel |
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The same people who are holding Dr. Tiller up as a martyr are slavering for the blood of the murderer. Ironic, isn't it? Killing viable fetuses is a merciful medical intervention, executing a nutty murderer is justifiable, but killing someone who has performed around ten thousand abortions on mostly viable fetuses is incomprehensibly horrible.
I'm against abortion, murder, and capital punishment. That's consistent, if sometimes hard to defend. Any liberals out there have the same consistency, or is murder great as long as it's a conservative nutcase or a nine month baby you're killing? |
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" and would murder you in a second if they thought you presented a threat to them or their family." If someone is threatening your life, the life of your family, or the life of your neighbor, you have a right to self-defense. That's just about the only justification there is for killing. That's why I would make the exception in abortion to prevent the death of the mother. I also respect the police and the military, because they defend us against people who would harm us.
So frank, if someone was threatening the life of your family, you wouldn't defend them? Pretty cold, isn't it? |
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" and would murder you in a second if they thought you presented a threat to them or their family." If someone is threatening your life, the life of your family, or the life of your neighbor, you have a right to self-defense. That's just about the only justification there is for killing. That's why I would make the exception in abortion to prevent the death of the mother. I also respect the police and the military, because they defend us against people who would harm us.
So frank, if someone was threatening the life of your family, you wouldn't defend them? Pretty cold, isn't it? |
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I hope when Tiller passes heaven on his way to his spot in purgatory he gets to see the face of every baby he killed, and they wave goodbye to him. |
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douglas writes: Monday, June, 01, 2009 1:14 AM Frank shut you mouth idiot I hope when Tiller passes heaven on his way to his spot in purgatory he gets to see the face of every baby he killed, and they wave goodbye to him.
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Another brilliant post to the libtards! Good one Douglas! |
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Frank writes: Monday, June, 01, 2009 12:34 AM arch that's because people are IGNORING YOU genius.
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You can spin it any way you desire Frank. You have no support from decent human beings. So what does that say about your attention need? |
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other than being a loser who spent his whole Sunday posting to people he hates on every issue on this site is: (what a sick F**k you are pal)
What are you going to do if the suspect is charged with a fed hate crime that carries the death penalty?
A liberal dilemma if I ever heard of one.
I can just see the Franks of this world singing Kubya in a candlit vigil for the shooter with a WTF look on their faces.
Priceless!!!
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" and would murder you in a second if they thought you presented a threat to them or their family." If someone is threatening your life, the life of your family, or the life of your neighbor, you have a right to self-defense. That's just about the only justification there is for killing. That's why I would make the exception in abortion to prevent the death of the mother. I also respect the police and the military, because they defend us against people who would harm us.
So frank, if someone was threatening the life of your family, you wouldn't defend them? Pretty cold, isn't it? |
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"and what would you do, Frank"
That's easy Robert.
He'd wet is pants. He's only tough with a keyboard and has no logic or point to anything he writes.
Normally I don't lower myself to address him but today he's gone off even for him. He doesn't address anything anyone writes mind you. Nor does he defend himself. And why would he?
He can't. All he can do is hurl insults.
Classic example of wanna be tough guy. I've seen you guys all of my life. You talk a good game but when someone says Boo and you are changing your shorts. |
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Let's take a poll of the American people on whether or not Americans believe this self-serving, reads like it was printed on the back of a box of cereal formula "condemnation".
Good luck trying to get anyone to believe they are sincere in even the slightest manner.
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" and would murder you in a second if they thought you presented a threat to them or their family." If someone is threatening your life, the life of your family, or the life of your neighbor, you have a right to self-defense. That's just about the only justification there is for killing. That's why I would make the exception in abortion to prevent the death of the mother. I also respect the police and the military, because they defend us against people who would harm us.
So frank, if someone was threatening the life of your family, you wouldn't defend them? Pretty cold, isn't it? |
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The trap of moral relativism? By this you mean that self-defense or defense or your neighbor is a sign of moral relativism? Get a life, frank. And while you're at it, get an education. That takes the prize for most illogical statement on the thread, not counting most of your other statements. Good night-- and I hope your family doesn't ever need defending. As for your neighbor, they're doomed if they depend on you as well. |
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Abortion opponents killed a man who still helped bring far more lives into the world as a Doctor than he aborted. |
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I don't think I'll get over the shock I felt upon learning that the late Dr. Tiller was... a Lutheran.
That said, it remains illegal in all fifty states and the District of Columbia to kill even a mass murderer.
No matter. Our message to the pro-abortion trolls and their pro-abortion Dear Leader will remain unchanged: stop the killing.
Stop the killing.
Stop the killing.
Meanwhile, I wonder whether the HHS Secretary will attend the funeral. I wonder whether there will be the slightest morsel of shame at what the man did for a living or whether it will turn into some sort of Wellstone-like orgy of indignation.
Should be an interesting week.
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"Classic example of wanna be tough guy. I've seen you guys all of my life. You talk a good game but when someone says Boo and you are changing your shorts."
I'm sure you have been seeing those guys all your life, if you're hanging out with conservatives. |
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We know anything about this guy yet? All I know is he got picked up three hours after the shooting a couple hundred miles away, which clearly means a criminal mastermind of epic proportions.
I'll lay anybody whatever odds they want that he's white, over 40, some strain of evangelical Christian, lacking a college education, and obviously somebody who voted for McCain.
I'll lay you ten to one odds that he's posted on Townhall before. |
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"I'll lay you ten to one odds that he's posted on Townhall before."
Good point. Who's missing..
Paddy, Check (Damn. Would have put a Dollar on that one.) Neo - Check Maine Con = check Deadnuts= Check.
I guess when we figure out who's missing, we'll know. |
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The NRLC interjects themselves into a murder of an abortion Doctor; they must feel some personal guilt. They should not. Here is what I would have said: This murder, though abhorrent, falls under the law of relativity in terms of killing a human. Tiller, the victim, was a late term abortion Doctor. Dr. Tiller could kill a woman's unborn baby 1 week or less prior to its birth and be praised as supporting that woman's right to choose. That same woman could kill that same child 1 week or less after it is born and go to jail as guilty of murder. The 2 acts could be separated by less than 2 weeks. Tiller invests the tools of abortion and the courts anoint him; the Mother (her new title since the live birth) is incarcerated by the same court. If those two dead babies were laid out on a table, side by side, there is doubt (except for the method of death)that we could discern which died at the hand of whom. There is something terribly wrong with that mental picture or even the notion of the whole procedure. This relativity is the source of acute anger; everyone recognizes that anger and the frustration associated with it has been the source of many misdeeds. This time it may be responsible for a murder--I must wonder how 40,000,000 aborted babies would opine, if their voice had not been stilled. |
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The killer and killed BOTH were wrong... the heck with the bible, the heck with "choice".
Dr Tiller a medical professional who took an oath to save lives if they have a chance to live. Made a choice to kill. The killer who took his life also made a choice.
If a woman has already carried a child long enough for it to be "viable" why did Dr Tiller not insist that instead of aborting wait a little longer (deliver it early if need be) and put it up for adoption to someone who would love it? (His bad choice for whatever reason...)
There are thousands of people waiting to adopt these kids...why do you think so many go overseas to adopt..because there is a child shortage here.
The killer is scum!... I hope he is convicted and gets what he deserves. He a loose cannon vigilante. In a nation of laws no one can take the law into their own hands.
John Adams who defended the Brittish Regulars when they fired on the crowd in the Boston Massacre had it right. The law has to apply to everyone equally and no one can be above it.
We need a law to stop late term abortions and a way to help these pregnant mothers who turn to it. We need to make adoption easier for those who would want these "about to be killed" children.
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The killer and killed BOTH were wrong... the heck with the bible, the heck with "choice".
Dr Tiller a medical professional who took an oath to save lives if they have a chance to live. Made a choice to kill. The killer who took his life also made a choice.
If a woman has already carried a child long enough for it to be "viable" why did Dr Tiller not insist that instead of aborting wait a little longer (deliver it early if need be) and put it up for adoption to someone who would love it? (His bad choice for whatever reason...)
There are thousands of people waiting to adopt these kids...why do you think so many go overseas to adopt..because there is a child shortage here.
The killer is scum!... I hope he is convicted and gets what he deserves. He a loose cannon vigilante. In a nation of laws no one can take the law into their own hands.
John Adams who defended the Brittish Regulars when they fired on the crowd in the Boston Massacre had it right. The law has to apply to everyone equally and no one can be above it.
We need a law to stop late term abortions and a way to help these pregnant mothers who turn to it. We need to make adoption easier for those who would want these "about to be killed" children.
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So why not go all the way... if you really think this is murder, why not shoot the mothers who have the abortions.... It wasn't like Tiller was breaking into their homes in the middle of the night and performing abortions. He had a clinic, women walked in pregnant and walked out not pregnant.
Come on, American Taliban. Go all the way. Don't shy away from your misogyny, revel in it! YOu can get those little s l u t s to wear bhurkas, too, while you are at it. |
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Anyone feel like betting? We know anything about this guy yet? All I know is he got picked up three hours after the shooting a couple hundred miles away, which clearly means a criminal mastermind of epic proportions.
I'll lay anybody whatever odds they want that he's white, over 40, some strain of evangelical Christian, lacking a college education, and obviously somebody who voted for McCain. _______________________________________________
Overall, blacks are 9 times more likely to commit murder than whites.
So based on your thought process, then these murderers are obviously someone who would have voted for Obama and lived in the projects.
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Your anger is misdirected
Are you a parent? First off, I am I have looked a newborn child.. my own and many others and seen potiental in all of them. Second, I was a paramedic and a nurse, sworn to protect life if it has a chance.
My beliefs are if someone thinks they "might" be pregnant from unprotected sex and takes the "morning after pill" it's fine.
If an ultrasound or ambio detects severe problems for the fetus or mother in the first 6-8 weeks it is up to that person what they do.
BUT, If a mother has carried a baby so far into a pregnancy that it can live outside the womb it is a whole nother story,it says at one point that child was wanted, it is a life, and killing it is wrong. There should be a saftey net for these children.
Calling me part of a murdering group is ignorance and vigilante-ism on your part and you're the one who has to live with it not I.
You are a fruitcake!
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If a mother has carried a baby THAT far, she probably intended to have it.
Amnio or ultrasound doesn't find all birth defects at the early stages... and most late term abortions are carried out because the baby is deformed or will live in horrible pain. |
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that the 2-Lefturds hammering you are simply clones of the same. "Scurvy" is "Axeman Eugene" and both are spawn of the long purged White Salamander(We just call him Sally). 2 or 3 other clones of the same, NEEDY squid appear from time-to-time. His life is fulfilled by ANY attention here, thus his NEED for the negative. Yeah, sick as hell, but aren't we lucky..? |
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The first question you avoided...
Are you a parent?
Second plus...
Your medical training and Ob-gyn training if any?...Your work with disabled kids or adults?
Amnio's and Ultrasound are not perfect..true, but between 6-8 weeks they're pretty darn accurate about birth defects are mostly discovered by then.
Second, I have worked as an Ob-gyn nurse and worked with, and taught kids and adults with many different disabilities and they're wonderful people who deserve a right to live just as you do...
Do you have a right to be judge, jury and executioner? I think not |
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You have shown Axe for the idiot he really is. He rarely gives rational reasons for his viewpoints. |
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See how our PRIORITIES are all upside down. A MASS MURDERER is being EULOGIZED by his defenders. His CRIMES are being DEFENDED. And, not just defended, but HAILED. These same people, who hold CANDLE LIGHT VIGILS for the JOSEPH MENGELA of our time, are also the ones who rally in the streets every year, to fight for THEIR 'RIGHT' to KILL their child in the womb. They fight for the RIGHTS of SERIAL KILLERS, and AGAINST the RIGHTS of the INNOCENT. "The wages of SIN, are DEATH" And TILLER the KILLER got what he deserved. THANK YOU GOD. And you other people...You've really got to re-examine your lives, and your priorities. There's something really WRONG with you. |
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First of all, I am pro-life, and I thought what Tiller did was abhorrent, but it doesn't make sense to fight violence with violence. Most pro-lifers are peaceful people, but once again we are being targeted as hypocrites and murderers, which makes our message much harder to get across.
On the other hand, while I do not condone Tiller's murder, I am shocked at how he is being portrayed as a hero by the press and many pro-choice-to-kill crowd. This guy killed countless viable babies. Hero? Not to me! |
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Fr. Pavone of Priests for Life said that they were very close to having Dr. Tiller's license removed from him (in a peaceful, lawful manner). So, of course, the anti life people took Tiller out themselves in order to make the pro life movement look bad. They were losing Tiller either way. Why not make it look as if pro lifers are dangerous--that is "child's play" when you are in league with the devil. |
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Molly - I'm so tired of the cliche about "refusing healthcare to underprivileged children" , I've been a health professional for almost 40 years , there is plenty of free and low cost health care and insurance for children in this country. SCHIP has been expanded to families making $80K and more a year. My best friend was a labor and delivery nurse in a county hospital , and she told me about all the programs for free pre-natal care, etc. and how most of the yong mothers refused to come back or refused to comply with what they were taught about diet and smoking, drugs, etc. On my own side of comunity healthcare , I can tell you the children that go without are generally those whose parents don't bother to take them for care, or feed them crap often because the food stamps, etc are going for themselves. Every health insurance policy in New York State is mandated to provide maternity office visits. |
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we only know of four of Dr. Tiller's children and grandchildren. We have no idea how many were aborted. |
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The news just came through that two army recruiters were shot, one fatally, in Arkansas this morning. Are the lefties screaming for the silencing of conservatives going to also call for the silencing of leftists? After all, an attack on the military is almost certainly a left wing affair. Let's see how sincere we all are. |
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buddhabman writes: Monday, June, 01, 2009 2:08 AM Pro-Life Terrorists Abortion opponents killed a man who still helped bring far more lives into the world as a Doctor than he aborted.
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Wrong Bubba. If he killed just one, then he is a filthy murderer no matter what good he did. Unless you are willing to forgive murder for all who have done other good for the world, then I suggest you rethink your argument! |
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Riveting pal. Again another badge of honor. The more you respond with Bahhh, the more we know we're getting to you.
Nothing but bile and insults.
Nice. Twisted. But nice.
And scurvy well, we'll see who the tough guys are won't we?
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