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All he did was link to a story about Pelosi slamming Bush/Cheney? |
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Another sordid legacy of Bill was to throw away the keys to unlock ANWAR. No other country has so many natural resources locked away by pure fiat and Democrat-lead eco-doomsayers.
"In 1990, George H.W. Bush, calling himself "the environmental president," signed an order putting virtually all the U.S. outer continental shelf's oil and gas reserves in the deep freeze. Bill Clinton extended that lockup until 2013. A Clinton veto also threw away the key to ANWR's oil 13 years ago...
We live in a world in which Russia's Vladimir Putin and Venezuela's Hugo Chávez use their vast oil and gas reserves as instruments of state power. Here, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid use their control of Congress to spend a week debating a "climate-change" bill. This they did fresh off their subsidized (and bipartisan) ethanol fiasco." |
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Manifestly sign of Hugh Derangement Syndrom - I wonder if these are "cybernauts" from the Obamasphere? |
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*strums guitar*
*sings*
We Cannot Drill Our Way Out Of This
Said the Joker to the Thief
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ummmm.. "speaking on behalf of Barack Obama"? Where in the story does it state that Pelosi was speaking on his behalf?
You people are so inbred and dumb you can't even understand when you're being lied to. Its really sad. Like a an echo chamber or deaf bats bouncing off each other... |
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Gawd, I'm SMART! I an sooooooooooooooo SMART!
Then she did that thingy with her multi-carved eyes where she doesn't blink for 3-hours. Very Cool. |
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Guys,
Hugh says that Pelosi "tells Americans to get over it and stop complaining about the high price of gas."
She didn't say that at all. She blamed the Bush admin. for the high prices. And they are to a great extent to blame. Invading Iraq was the first time the US engaged in a large military operation without raising taxes.
Bush wanted to keep his base, the very wealthy, placated and have his war. so we financed it with debt; the debt weakened the dollar, and with a weakened dollar the proce of a barrel of oil went sky high.
There are other things, like increased competition for oil from China and India, that neither the Democrats of Republicans talk about.
But Hugh still lied. |
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When you post in such a fashion, you give the red menace an easy way out: the subject has become you rather than the amazingly stupid Congresional leadership.
The big government sphincters will need seven or eight committees and the requisite hearings to appoint a panel to investigate the possibility of reaching a conclusion to the probability of a solution and whether to table the motion to take action....
If they put as much effort into solving problems as they do finding ways to ignore them, maybe their approval rating would be higher than 11%.
Hugh for future reference, please don't use the words "drill" and "Pelosi" in the same sentence. I get nauseous.....
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I'm confused. Help me out. I thought you told us a few years ago that Bush invaded Iraq to steal their oil. Now you're telling us it's because he invaded Iraq that we're paying them $136 per barrel?
Are you SURE you're sane? |
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,366108,00.html
Earlier in the day, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said that savings from drilling in ANWR would be 1.8 cents per gallon in 2030.
"All told, the U.S. has only 1.6 percent of world's known oil supply. But every day, Americans use a quarter of the world’s daily oil consumption," Pelosi, D-Calif., said in a statement. "So the fact is, we CAN'T drill our way out of this problem. But we do have unlimited amounts of sunshine, wind, biofuels, biomass, and geothermal heat—and the American ingenuity to discover new ways to power the world, to grow these industries, to create hundreds of thousands of high paying green job—and to become a lot more energy independent.
There you go: Pie in the Sky trumps Reality.
Is that what Libs call hope? |
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there where the sun don't shine, pelousy, you no good san francisco punk, that goes for the rest of you leftists, too, please come to Denver in August, we got something for you, please come at eat some teargas and let the Crap Canon have a go at you, too, you no good leftists punks. |
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Are hell bent on bring the US down aren't they. Energy is freedom.
I guess this makes Pe-lala-osi's promise to lower gas prices inoperative -- In other words she lies.
Clearly the stretch has been way to tight for the brain to function. She is after all 68 years old, and looks it. If she believes she can sell this, why not go big time and just declare Marxism the standard religion of the US.
You thought the Democrat Marxists were just being friendly with Hugo Chavez, now you learn they were actually trying to figure out hw to do it. |
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Where is our 'relief at the pump"?
Idiots. |
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One good thing about an Obama Presidency would be the buyers remorse that would occur all over the place. People like "Sane Woman" have bought into the simpleton notion that Bush/Cheney control oil prices. These are also the same folks who consume energy and don't think that we must make sacrifices (i.e. put an oil platform 50 miles off the coasts of Cali or Floria, allow new nuke plants to be built, or drill for domestic oil in an arctic tundra that very few people every see).
Sane woman my a@@ |
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"Get over it," you idiot. I read the article and never did she utter those words. Nor was Obama's name in there. What a bunch of stupid sheep you are. |
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The same jackasses who blame Congress for the energy mess are the ones who supported Reagan when he dismantled President Carter's farsighted energy policy. Safe to say, had we listened to Carter, and not Reagan, our energy situation would be significantly better than it is today. And yet, even today, Carter is ridiculed by the same short-sighted buffoons who now blame Congress for the very crisis that THEY created. |
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You got it, man. "Sheep" is the word. |
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Explain why banning off-shore drilling is a good thing.
Explain why ANWAR needs to be protected.
Explain how Carter's plan would have fixed this mess. |
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Sounds like an person who attaches himself/herself to a messianic political figure...
Interesting....
Sounds incredibly contemporary.... |
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other Obama,Reid and Pelosi Kool-aid drinkers.... you say we conservatives are stupid.... but we are all so very clear that you are the ones that are mentally deficient and I think you will be in for a big surprise come November...
Price is almost always a matter of Supply and Demand.... anyone who has taken business 101 or intro to Economics can tell you that... but I am guessing none of you have....
If we let the oil companies run their own businesses (which by the way gives lots of folks jobs at several levels of the economic spectrum, then they will find oil, drill for it, and produce it... The cost to do this (assuming that the Dems get out of the way) will be far less than what it costs them to buy it from the Mideast, Russia and Venezela.... thus, all producers will have to lower prices to compete for American Customers which will drive prices lower across the board.... In fact, perhaps the meer commitment to begin this process will drive prices down in an effort to discourage Americans harvesting their own oil....
What seems completely irresponsible to me is to have members of Congress telling our companies where to drill and what additives or formulas that the oil companies have to produce... Those type of actions do nothing but drive prices higher. |
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There are those on the left who think Americans use up too much of the worlds stuff. Funny thing is we started with nothing more than was available to everyone else. If you think the elites believe in equality, read Animal Farm or 1984. Then read John Stuart Mill's On Liberty. People like Pelosi and some of he posters here are the first ones who need to go. Where I do not know, but I will fight for my right to this life style. |
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plan you leftists advertised in 06', oh, i guess we can find it in the same place we can find a leftist's character, that means it just doesn't exist, right Pelousy. |
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wouldn't drilling help mitigate that harm?
But it is better to call it EXPLORATION. We want to explore for more oil. So much more romantic. Come on Nancy, grab some pop corn, curl up on the couch, and watch Giant this weekend. Are you going to deny the next generation of James Deans the ability to strike it big? |
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You don't get out much, do you?
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The first time I ever heard Nancy Pelosi, I thought it was a joke -- some kind of comedy bit because she was completely ridiculous. I wish I could remember what it was now.
To think she is the majority leader of is mindboggling.
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Just listening to what passes for thought from progressives, it's easy to tune it out as simple raving. They key is to get them in power, and actually feel the results of their stupidity. Then, and only then, will the general population sober up.
Listen, just listen, the the music emanating from the Obomber! And see all the little 'rats following right along! It's a marvel how many people are lulled by the hopey-changiness of his blather.
It's a laugh-and-a-half how the progressives here are missing the NUANCE of Hugh's comment - they're simply legends in their own minds, and their comments underscore their lack of thought.
As for Pelosi and the other dhimmicrats - the intertubes are winning; as more people tune out the MSM protection racket for the dhims and find out what's really been going on for the past 25 years, greater numbers WILL sober up. |
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There is plenty of Oil on the Outer Continental Shelf, Oil Sands in Canada, Oil Shell in CO and Coal in this Country. Oil Companies cannot get at it because of the DEMS!!!!
Want to BLAME SOMEONE FOR HIGH OIL PRICES-....BLAME THE DEMS!!!!!!!
He who has the Gold make the rules...we import 60% of our Oil...OPEC sets the rules now...we don't
I'm from Texas and grew up in the business...I should know! |
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to a present problem. Ms. Pelosi is likely correct..we cannot drill out way out of the problem (the ultimate end to the oil age...Peak Oil and the decline)..However, beteen now and the distant future is today. And today..and for many days to come the United States can develop the oil resources it has (as well as nat gas) and buy itself time to develp the myriad alternatives that will serve as substitutes...
The real problem with her conclusion..is that Ms. Pelosi has no real alternatives in mind. That's why the statement is not reality motivated, but politically motivated. She only knows what she doesn't like..not what serves as a commercially viable alternative RIGHT NOW, and for the next 5 years.
The real agenda is beginning to shape the discourse...Is this really about oil..or Guantamo and the people held there...or is this about making us ineffective as an ongoing nation state? |
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I have a question for those who are know more than me. If the USA takes actions now to convince the oil traders that 1) the USA will drill all their resources and maybe even more importantly 2) the USA will dedicate a large amount of resources to finding alternatives to oil, would this not cause the oil trader to no longer not bet on rising oil prices? |
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Thanks for the comic relief Patriotic Liberal. I've never heard Jimmy Carter's energy policy referred to as far sighted before.
Next time I'm in a gas line I'll just thank God for the Left's far sighted energy policies.
Pelosi is absolutely right though. We can't drill our way out of the situation....because the Left and John McCain will not allow us to drill our way out of it! |
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I hate to point this out to the deniers out there but Nancy Pelosi speaks for all Democrats. She is second in line to the Presidency therefore she is THE ranking Democrat and therefore she speaks for all Democrats. Sucks, doesn't it? |
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No. It's not about the "oil traders". It's a physical problem. Even if we had the capital and the politicians passed legislation to permanently satisfy investors that it is safe for fifty years to invest in capacity, it wouldn't matter much. We don't have the equipment, the manpower, or the infrastructure to scale up production fast. There is a shortage of deep-sea oil platforms as it is and I don't know what it takes for manufacturers of platforms to ramp up production fast.
It's a massive and complicated logistical challenge. Just think how long it took to plan out the logistics for the D-Day invasion. This is much more complicated. There are too many people discussing this like you can just flip a switch and it's done.
I would be very interested to hear from anyone who is actually involved in this industry. Am I wrong? I'm just a stock broker but I do have an appreciation for the massive amount of capital it would take and you don't just go to Walmart to buy the enormous amount of equipment that would be needed. |
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Although Pelosi is right about that, it is illogical to use that as the reason for not drilling at all. We have the oil and we will need it in the future. They sooner we bring it on line, the more time we have to find a permanent solution. As bad as Pelosi is, McCain is even WORSE! He is predicting that the price of oil will be much lower by November because of breakthroughs in alternative energy! Wha-a-a-a? Not only does he mumble when he talks, what he says is incoherent gibberish! |
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drilling or she needs to lay off of the botox injections. (New studies show botox affects the brain....SanFranGranNan is a great case study!)
Something profitable must be the incentive for these libs who don't want to drill & become energy independent...it defies logic. |
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Nationalize our oil? Are you sure you're not Maxine Waters in drag?
The government makes a mess of everything it touches because there is 0 accountability. Let's let government ruin health care before we let it scew up oil production.
One thing at a time. |
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Are you suggesting that the government be put in charge of a national oil drilling company? Too socialist for me. Complaining about oil company profits is the wrong approach. They don't make too much profit. If you want to get rid of the subsidies and tax breaks that they get, then I'll agree with you wholeheartedly.
Government has done a pi$$ poor job on every attempt to nationalize anything. Social Security is just a big slush fund for them, Medicare is useless. Government needs to stay the hell out of business or trying to "create jobs". They have proven to be a ball and chain on the US economy. |
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Yes, DP, Cheney, along with Bush, went into Iraq to take control of the oil there. They just didn't do a very good job. They fell for their own rhetoric that we would be greeted as liberators.
The price tag for this war was far greater than they realized. That is one of the reasons for our high gas prices.
And axion, I obviously don't believe that these guys control oil prices. They've made too much of a mess of things to do that. |
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these libs are most of the comments here on your blog Hughbet, they are too stoopid for their own good they just parrot their handlers way. This is what happens when a dork like you tries to example himself as the smartest one in the room. You should leave that for the ones with common sense these libs are easily led astray. The idea that they believe the $5/gal huggers is where your focus should lie. 86% of America hates these liberal pond scum evironmentally ill POS who want to blame "BIG OIL" for their woos. |
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Briggsy writes: Thursday, June, 12, 2008 11:59 PM
Oil from public lands and sea shelf
belong to the People.
If there's any drilling to be done, let it be done by and for the United States of America, not given away to the bandits in big oil.
Bring it to the marketplace at cost, and let the bandits feel that downward price pressure.
Arch says"
Briggsy you are a damn marxist! Joe Stalin would be proud of your post. What government geniuses and what bureaucracies are capable of the expertise developed by big oil companies to produce crude oil and Gasoline? You would rape your way to a bigger government by this thinking and confiscation of others hard work and risk taking is despicable to say the least. How would you like it if I advocated the confiscation of the rewards of your labor, investment risk and wealth?
Damn you are a fool!! |
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Frankly, Pelosi is wrong and right. We need to find more domestic oil, but we also need higher energy prices in the short term. Lets face it, we had 10 years where we knew that yhis would become an issue and everyone just listened to Rush Limbaugh and bought their SUV's.
The only way this country has grown more efficent has been high oil prices.High oil prices in the 1970's forced efficiencies that made the US consume 10% less oil while the economy gre 50%.
In the 1990's and 2000's we fell off the wagon because of cheap oil. This would have been the perfect time to continue our greater efficiency efforts and oil consumption grew in lockstep with the economy.
Now in a few short months the US consumer has already cut consumption down to 2004 levels. The reality is we should be drilling for more oil domestically to become more energy secure as a nation and not to wade into $1.50 a gallon gas anymore. That will only put us back in the same mess again 10 years down the road.
New SUV's on the market already get 20% better gas mileage and the boeing 787 uses 1/3 less fuel. Do you think those advances come out of cheap gas. Don't bet on it.
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"but thankfully we at least can still count on grown ups in the Dem party to clamp down on the blind greed."
Are you fuggin kidding me? Surely you can't be THAT stupid...
Thanks for the best laugh of the week! |
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... has gotten us to the point of $4/gallon gasoline and skyrocketing food prices.
Unfortunately for the American people -- and unfortunately for our children -- the environmentalists have us by the throats and won't stop squeezing until we stop trying to breath. And there are damn few politicians with the guts to challenge them.
So, is this it, America? Are you ready to be talked into committing economic suicide, or condemning your children to do so?
Are you prepared to let the mindless minions like Pelosi and her swarm of useful idiots like Briggsy condemn us to the long slide backwards to misery and privation?
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Carter's energy plan recognized the problem and attacked it from both the supply side and the demand side (you'll remember that as recently as 2001, Cheney was ridiculing national energy policy that was consumption-based). The approach included tax incentives, subsidies, and regulatory edicts. A consortium of special interests--oil companies, right-wing think tanks, and Arab producers--banded against Carter with its "free market alternative." They asserted there was no problem, that it was just a figment of Carter's big government imagination. Ultimately they won with Reagan and the rest of history.
As for offshore and ANWR, I don't have a problem with it. I'm less of a granola head than many of my countrymen on the left. At the same time, those are tactical answers to a strategic problem. Of course, that's what we have come to expect from this generation of "conservatives." What's next, a tax cut? Hell, let's just not pay for anything.
Also, another reason for the rise of the price of energy (Carter foresaw the emergence of global demand, by the way) is the erosion in the value of the dollar. Bush and the Reeps get to take a bow for that one.
Btw, I'm glad Jimmy Carter was able to live and see his ultimate vindication and the humiliation of those buffoons who have ridiculed him over the past three decades. |
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One other thing: there is no "messianic" tone to Barack's campaign. Yes, there is a lot of youthful energy and idealism--not unlike the youngsters who worked for Reagan. Yes, Barack is not saying what you want to hear.
But "Messianic" is the right-wing idea that we don't have to think about the future because these are the End Times and Jesus is coming. Messianic is the idea that Israel is chosen of God and America must bend policy to accommodate that fact. Messianic is the ridiculous hero-worship of second-raters like Rush Limbaugh and the wildly uncalibrated villification of (admittedly flawed) souls like Bill Clinton. It is precisely the need to get away from this Messianic and authoritarian tone in politix that we need to elect Barack. |
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look no further than the closes socialist, oh, i know, they call themselves democrats, but just ask Maxie, she knows what they are, but when you see one of these socialists just give them your middle finger and say thanks, thanks for 35 years of standing in the way of drilling and refining oil and jeopardizing the financial welfare of every man, woman and child in this country.
vote obambi...ride a bicycle to work for the rest of your life....
Please O'Lord, rid us of this scum.. |
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patriotic Liberal writes"
Btw, I'm glad Jimmy Carter was able to live and see his ultimate vindication and the humiliation of those buffoons who have ridiculed him over the past three decades.
arch says"
I bet you are PL. The trouble is that he was totally wrong in his approach and failed pitifully, resulting in the misery of those he led. This seems to not affect your glowing admiration of that loser though does it? Maybe you yearn for the days of sorrow from the legacy of old Jimmy? When will you finally realize that big government socialism fails every time it is tried and has resulted in enslavement and misery and death of millions of human beings? You have a disorder of the mind to continue to promote your case for electing leftist socialists like Jimmie and Obammy. Wise up ! |
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You are so right Cottoneyed. Thank you libtards for your service of spreading misery and suffering to our great nation's people. The finger to you all and may you rot and perish from the face of the earth, scorned for the suffering you caused a good and fruitful people. |
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France, that beloved country of, Leftists, U.S. Democrats (for its socialist models) receives 75% of it's country's electricity demands from Nuclear power. But, no nukes in the U.S. Our hands are tied by enviro-extremists courted by DemoRats.
The Democrat Party has been sympathetic to; has kowtowed to environmental extremists for several decades now.
These same environmental extremists have successfully persuaded Democrats---for years now---to refrain from any drilling near ANWR and off our southeast coasts. But China is given a "free pass" in drilling within eyesight of the Florida coast.
FACT:
Democrats love the narrative that if we started projects in ANWR, we would not see the fruits of these labors for 10 years---that is correct-----HOWEVER, had we started 10-15 years ago, as conservatives desired to, we would, RIGHT NOW, be extracting oil from ANWR and from other areas that DEMOCRATS have successfully stifled.
FACT:
Even CHINA is allowed to drill 50 miles off the coasts of Florida---and are doing just that, but not the U.S.
FACT:
Environmental extremists---pandered to by DEMOCRATS were successful in decimating the logging industry in the Pacific Northwest---because of claims that the Spotted Owl's habitat was being destroyed ---and hence their populations.
NOT TRUE-------SCIENTISTS all agree now that the Spotted Owl was being destroyed by another, predator owl, which was introduced into the Spotted Owl's habitat by other conditions brought about directly by irresponsible environmnental extremist's actions.
Environmental extremists are provided much energy by Democrats. And much of this has resulted in negative outcomes.
Long hindering worthy oil exploration is merely one negative byproduct of enviro-extremism. |
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..what are you idiots talking about? Your side has been calling the shots since 1980. We are coming to a Great Reckoning. I know it is in your nature to slough responsibility to the other side, but that's because you are moral children. Here in adultland, Reeps are being called to account. |
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Patriotic Liberal writes: Sunday, June, 15, 2008 7:44 AM
arch and cottoneyed
..what are you idiots talking about? Your side has been calling the shots since 1980. We are coming to a Great Reckoning. I know it is in your nature to slough responsibility to the other side, but that's because you are moral children. Here in adultland, Reeps are being called to account.
Arch says"
Who is it that votes against every energy policy that would increase the national production of oil? Is it the republicans or the democrats? You are a blind to the facts of reality libtard moron Patriotic Liberal. Who do the environmental idiots vote for fool?? Last I noted your democrats voted down a bill to increase our oil production while we are paying 4$ a gallon. The American consumer thanks you I am sure. Libtard!! |
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