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Saturday, September 09, 2006
The Legacy Thugs and the Death of an Optimist?
Posted by: Mary Katharine Ham at 2:20 PM

Nah, she's probably not quite dead, but let's get to the depressing stuff.

My posting of the "Path to 9/11" controversy needs serious updating.

First the new news.

Albright, Berger, and other Clinton aides now want the miniseries cancelled, not just altered, even though ABC has already shown its willingness to change the handful of scenes to which they object. Clinton's lawyers are on the same warpath-- yank the whole thing, even if 98 percent of it is accurate, the two percent that isn't could be corrected, and the whole thing could be a well-watched informative documentary on an important time in American history about which the general public knows very little, probably thanks to the Legacy Thugs of the Clinton years.

Bill Frist suggested that the censors chill out, let the thing run, and let the American people decide what they think.That's what I said here:

As for all this uproar, the lefties should just sack up, let the thing run, and try to make some coherent arguments against it after the fact. That's what we've been doing for years.

Looks like that is not the tack Lefties are taking. They're not even willing to let the thing run with the corrections they deem necessary, and Allah got justifiably hot about it last night.

He calls them thugs, acknowledging that they may wear the label as a badge of honor. Exhibit A:

The Senate Democratic leadership just threatened Disney's broadcast license. Not the use of the word "trustee" at the beginning of the letter and "trust" at the end. This is nothing less than an implicit threat that if Disney tries to meddle in the US elections on behalf of the Republicans, they will pay a very serious price when the Democrats get back in power, or even before.

It's hardball, nutroots style, and it's to be applauded. They're warriors, man, and the Dem Leadership is finally getting with the program.

Intellectual honesty is also not part of the nutroots style. Remember back when "fake but accurate" was all the rage, as long as it illustrated the "larger truth?" It lasted up until this week, as a matter of fact.

An argument could certainly be made that the "Path to 9/11" scenes liberals are complaining about convey a "larger truth" about how the Clinton administration's ineptitude and preoccupation with the Lewinsky scandal meant it missed 8-10 chances to kill or capture Osama bin Laden. Here are the scenes in dispute again:

Berger is seen as refusing authorization for a proposed raid to capture bin Laden in spring 1998 to CIA operatives in Afghanistan who have the terrorist leader in their sights. A CIA operative sends a message: "We're ready to load the package. Repeat, do we have clearance to load the package?" Berger responds: "I don't have that authority."

Berger said that neither he nor Clinton ever rejected a CIA or military request to conduct an operation against bin Laden. The Sept. 11 commission said no CIA operatives were poised to attack; that Afghanistan's rebel Northern Alliance was not involved, as the film says; and that then-CIA Director George J. Tenet decided the plan would not work.

Tenet is depicted as challenging Albright for having alerted Pakistan in advance of the August 1998 missile strike that unsuccessfully targeted bin Laden."Madame Secretary," Tenet is seen saying, "the Pakistani security service, the ISI, has close ties with the Taliban." Albright is seen shouting: "We had to inform the Pakistanis. There are regional factors involved." Tenet then complains that "we've enhanced bin Laden's stature."

Albright said she never warned Pakistan. The Sept. 11 commission found that a senior U.S. military official warned Pakistan that missiles crossing its airspace would not be from its archenemy, India.

But do conservatives, who argued against the "fake but accurate" standard during Rathergate suddenly come down in favor of it now that it serves their political purposes? Here's Ace addressing the first scene in question:

The scene in question is, well, not accurate. I wrote Justin Levine to clarify if the troops were depicted as part of a targeting/recon mission for a cruise missile strike on bin Ladin (which would be close enough to the truth) or actually poised to kill or capture bin Ladin himself. Levine reports it's clearly the latter -- which means yes, the scene is inaccurate.As far as actual troops being in position to kill bin Ladin. But we had plenty of opportunities to kill him through airstrikes...

It should be noted that the scene drawing the most controversy can be edited, I think, to better reflect the actual facts. They don't need to show troops in position -- they can show a man at a cruise missile targeting computer speaking with Berger instead. They don't have time to shoot this? Ah, don't be silly. There is plenty of footage from a million movies that can be used for a brief depiction of the man on the other end of the line, and dialogue can be dubbed/rerecorded to make it clear a Tomahawk cruise missile strike is contemplated, not a boots-on-the-ground covert operative raid.

Patterico:
First, if the changes make the film more historically accurate, that’s a good thing.
Here's Dean Barnett on all the scenes in question:

First, let’s concede the obvious – they have a point. There are “conflations” and “dramatizations” that cast their previous administration in a negative light. If I were Sandy Berger, I wouldn’t be thrilled about my depiction. Then again, if I were Sandy Berger, I’d probably keep a low profile during this entire controversy, figuring the less snooping done into my record on terrorism, the better.

But conservatives should be upset about these inaccuracies, also.

I, for one, am really proud to say that we are upset about them, and many have called for them to be corrected to better reflect what actually happened during the days of the Clintonistas. We even have suggestions, here, here, and my personal favorite:
For instance, if the film included a scene where Bill Clinton said to his staffers, “You know it would scare the shit out of Al Qaeda if suddenly a bunch of black ninjas rappelled out of helicopters into the middle of the camp,” and the camera then surveyed the agape stares of Clinton’s acolytes, that too would have communicated Truth. And it would have reflected an actual event.

All of those scenes, used in "Path to 9/11," would be both genuine and accurate, which is the standard we've supported all along, unlike the Left bloggers who-- you know I gotta say it-- voted for "fake but accurate" before they voted against it. (Buh duh ching! Yeah, I know. Moving on...)

The whole thing's got me, not just angry, but pessimistic. It's not an emotion that often overcomes me. But over the last couple days, I've watched the new face of the Democratic Party applaud two threats (one from the actual Senate) on ABC's broadcast license. I've watched their unabashed intellectual dishonesty in abandoning the "larger truth" argument when it doesn't suit their objectives anymore (yes, it was a flawed argument, but some consistency at least?). I've watched them nominate a 9/11 Truther for Congress , and I've watched "Screw Loose Change," an extensive debunking of the Truthers' arguments. 

It's easy to read this stuff, blog about it, acknowledge it as loopy, and never let the sheer weight of the crazy hit you, you know? Maybe it's some sort of self-defense mechanism for the eternal optimist. But this week? Wow.

Listen, I'm a conservative and a Republican. I'm not exactly one for getting all Kumbaya with Democrats, especially since that ususally means going all maverick and dropping most of your principles. But, I do believe in the need for two, strong, viable national parties to check each other.

On the national security issue, the Dems have been a long way from strong and viable for a long time. They've been coming to the marketplace of ideas with empty grocery bags. Sure, they're cotton and biodegradable instead of plastic or paper, but they're usually empty. And, even though it means Republicans have a chance to win more elections, I'm not particularly excited about the fact that Dems won't sack up and take the greatest threat of our time seriously.

They nominated a man for Congress who thinks our government did this to 3,000 Americans:

He is not a lone nut among their ranks. Hello, pessimism. Maybe I'll feel better tomorrow.

Update: From 9/11 conspiracy film "Loose Change:"

"I think what happened to the World Trade Center is simple enough. It was brought down in a carefully planned controlled demolition. It was a psychological attack on the American people, and it was pulled off with military precision."

Sickos.



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Southern Conservative writes: Monday, September, 11, 2006 1:44 PM
tanabear
surely even you are not stupid or so full of BDS that you really believe that 911 was an inside job. You just sound silly.
Southern Conservative writes: Monday, September, 11, 2006 1:42 PM
anonymomaestro
You REALLY need to leave the Kos kool aid alone man. Your brain is rotting out. Anyone who could actually utter the words "Ignored the successful anti-terrorism strategies of Clinton (successful in that they led to many more breakups of terrorism plots than Bush had managed), the better to focus on things that are useless, like torture and illegal wiretapping" has truly and completely lost their mind. Leave the DIM talking points alone. If you can't come up with your own ideas, shut the F*CK up and go away.
Jon writes: Monday, September, 11, 2006 1:07 AM
Berger authorization scene
I'm looking at Lt. Col. Robert "Buzz" Patterson, USAF (Ret.)'s "Derelication of Duty", prologue, pgs. 23 - 30, which descibes essentially the same sort of incident, this time against Iraq in September, 1996. Could this maybe have been the Berger-Clinton side of the incident that provided the inspiration for the scene in the movie? I don't know if that justifies any inaccuracy; maybe saying it does is to fall into the "fake but accurate" trap. Perhaps the movie makers were attempting to paint a picture using a more dramatic rendition of the same indecision and bad priorities that downed the actual missions against UBL, giving them some, but not much, credibility?

I only caught the last hour (actually 40 mins.) of the movie; did they trim 20 mins. out of the first movie or did it intend to run 2 hrs. and 40 mins.?
Otter writes: Sunday, September, 10, 2006 9:14 AM
You notice
Anonymouse doesn't give a Dame about what this show will teach people about the threat. Just the Dems perceptions of 'reality.'

Well I've got my absentee ballot (American living in Canada) and I plan to help Lynn Swan and Rick Santorum get (back) into office.
PaulusedtobeinArizona writes: Saturday, September, 09, 2006 7:17 PM
Anonymous
God but you're banal. Nothing but talking points from you.

As to the content, everybody with a brain knows that it can't possibly claim to be 100% accurate in it's depiction. Simply even for the sake of time, much less purposes of dramatization, pacing and plot.

Watch the stinkin' thing and criticize it after you've seen it if it's warranted.
LeatherPenguin writes: Saturday, September, 09, 2006 6:34 PM
If they don't show it...
Senate Repubs aren't on the ramparts screaming about the letter sent to Disney by their "distinguished gentlemen" friends from the other side of the aisle?

I ain't be surprised
.
Time to load up on shells and kibble for my dogs, because the war is coming; and I ain't talking about Ossama.
Darleen Click writes: Saturday, September, 09, 2006 5:11 PM
MKH please check
the IP of commenter Clearwater

I'm encountering this spambot in different places...twice on your blog, then on Wizbang...

wth?
IfAFrogHadWings writes: Saturday, September, 09, 2006 5:02 PM
it's executive summary--not re-creation
The producers of "Path to 9/11" never claimed that this mini-series was a word-for-word re-creation of events. This is a docu-drama--an executive summary. Any word-for-word re-creation--to capture all bits and pieces of the underlying story--would take 100 hours of television, minimum. In strict re-creation, the pieces of this puzzle (the plot points) would come out in little drips and drabs, and viewers would fall asleep. That's why popular historians, and screenwriters, don't hide the historical turning points, like real life does. And they try not to put their audience to sleep. If somebody else wants to make the 100-hour unabridged re-creation of the path to 9/11, they're welcome to try. I'll pass on watching that one. I think the executive summary is sufficient for television.
Mitchell writes: Saturday, September, 09, 2006 4:42 PM
Durham Paper
Good to see an old Durhamite make good. I thought your Dad and the old hands at the H-S were some good folks. Did a little legal work for them.

Give 'em H#ll, Ham!
Dean writes: Saturday, September, 09, 2006 4:17 PM
Buck Up, MKH!
Nothing new under the sun here. There's as much chance of reasoning with some of these folks as there is reasoning with a doorknob.

PS m- I see you too are blessed with the wisdom of Anonymousmaestro. The horror!!!
ClearwaterConservative writes: Saturday, September, 09, 2006 4:07 PM
Path to 9/11
As a conservative I STRONGLY urge ABC to correct the falsehoods and misrepresentations in the upcoming “Path to 9/11” before it is shown. And I am not the only conservative saying this.

John Podhoretz, conservative columnist and Fox News contributor says: The portrait of Albright is an unacceptable revision of recent history and an unfair mark on a public servant who, no matter her shortcomings, doesn’t deserve to be remembered by millions of Americans as the inadvertent (and truculent) savior of Osama bin Laden. Samuel Berger, Clinton’s national security adviser, also seems to have just cause for complaint.

James Taranto, OpinionJournal.com editor says: The Clintonites may have a point here. A few years ago, when the shoe was on the other foot, we were happy to see CBS scotch "The Reagans."

Dean Barnett, conservative commentator posting on Hugh Hewitt’s blog says: One can (if one so chooses) give the filmmakers artistic license to [fabricate a scene]. But if that is what they have done, conservative analysts who back this movie as a historical document will mortgage their credibility doing so.

Chris Wallace, Fox News Sunday anchor says: When you put somebody on the screen and say that’s Madeleine Albright and she said this in a specific conversation and she never did say it, I think it’s slanderous, I think it’s defamatory and I think that ABC and Disney should be held to account.

Captain’s Quarters blog says:If the Democrats do not like what ABC wants to broadcast, they have every right to protest it — and in this case, they had a point.

Bill Bennett, conservative author, radio host, and TV commentator says: Look, "The Path to 9/11" is strewn with a lot of problems and I think there were problems in the Clinton administration. But that’s no reason to falsify the record, falsify conversations by either the president or his leading people and you know it just shouldn’t happen.
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