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Monday, September 24, 2007
"Why I Have A Little Crush on Mahmoud Ahmadinejad"
Posted by: Hugh Hewitt at 12:21 AM
Meet the MoveOn.org/DailyKos/Hillary Democrats.  (HT: LGF.)

The 2008 Hillary Democrats are far more radical than the 1972 McGovern Democrats or the 1984 San Francisco Democrats.

Their politics have no precedent in American mainstream politics, which makes the 2008 vote as clear a choice as has ever been put to the American electorate.

UPDATE: GayPatriot has more on this KosKid.



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Noah Zark writes: Tuesday, September, 25, 2007 1:50 AM
Paddy O'Dimwit
Why yes paddy.... I do "know brains".

And Brains, Paddy, is what you ain't got.

Stupid is what you are.

Conservative is what you ain't.

Bored am I ever.

(God help me, I sound like Yoda!!!!)

Now paddy, go make yer broken-down harridan fishwife perform her "painful duty" and go to bed.


Paddy Ofurniture writes: Monday, September, 24, 2007 11:15 PM
Neo
How did we ever get such a pure example of a piece of sh*t as a conservative? Noah....

Sounds like a guy who sleeps with any animal he can find. Well, when even the hookers won't touch you, I guess you get pretty desperate...
How stupid can this guy be....he actually thinks he has something to say....
Paddy Ofurniture writes: Monday, September, 24, 2007 11:04 PM
Noah
When you were in the service, how many Americans did you shoot out of your sheer stupidity? It's not my fault you're too dense to understand English.

I am a military veteran and as conservative as it gets.

You are all bluster and know brains and you give conservatives a bad name.

I can't believe you're this stupid....I guess you don't bother to read the other posts...you just spew. Much like a lefty would do....Nothing but hot air from a blowhard.

Conservatives are supposed to be smart. How did you get here....

What a stupid a hole.
Noah Zark writes: Monday, September, 24, 2007 10:53 PM
paddy
"Noah....
Maybe we right-thinking Americans should think about getting some uniforms.... :-) "

err...ummm... that's just what I mean. I hae NO idea what you are talking about!! (oops! make that "have". No Robert Burns dialect intended, Paddy! --- not that you would have a clue)

But lemme try to parse it...

"right-thinking...Americans...get uniforms.

Oh, IIIIIII get it --- you mean BROWN shirted uniforms, as in "fascist" right-thinking americans!

Har har! that's a good'un! My thigh has welts from so much slapping!!! Urf urf! the pain, the pain! Urf Urf....! the pain the pain!

You should write for Letterma--- no, Leno --- no make that Larry David!!!!

BWAAAAhahahahahahah! Your a*ss is comic GENIUS!!!!!

Paddy o'Furniture, eh?

I remember other Irish heroes we made up as jeune and callow youth back in high school:

Botanist Angie O'Sperm

Wiccan Hal O'Ween

Arborist Will O'Tree

Pretty weak, eh? Lame to the nth, eh?

Just like "Paddy O'Furniture".

If you put your ear reeally reaally close to your PC speakers, you'll just be able to hear me farting in your face.

You witless troll.






SteveR writes: Monday, September, 24, 2007 7:31 PM
moveon/Kos/Hitlery..cut from same cloth
I don't see any difference between 'em.
More reason why everything should be done to make sure that Hitlery never becomes president.
paddy o'furniture writes: Monday, September, 24, 2007 7:07 PM
Noah....
Maybe we right-thinking Americans should think about getting some uniforms.... :-)
Noah Zark writes: Monday, September, 24, 2007 7:01 PM
paddy
Sorry, paddy, but your prose is so opaque that I keep thinking you write from some Cyber-shabeen.

I didn't TRY to make the same point as you, I MADE the point, with references and reasoning, twice.
paddy o'furniture writes: Monday, September, 24, 2007 6:32 PM
Noah....
Once again, you bluster at me while trying to make the same point as I.

I really wish you'd pay a little attention.... You are proving the lefty loons correct....

Noah Zark writes: Monday, September, 24, 2007 5:56 PM
NCS b*itch-slaps me back to sanity
sentido writes: Monday, September, 24, 2007 3:56 PM
"Constitutional rights belong only to.."
NZ: "Where did I write that? Point it out, please! Especially that bogus quote."

sentio: "In the post dated Monday, September, 24, 2007 2:06 PM. You were quoting your expert, Andrew McCarthy, but you are asserting that it is true."

what a moron: here's the TITLE of McCarthy's piece, once again:

"AL QAEDA TERRORISTS HAVE NO CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS

Here's another sentence:

"Constitutional rights belong only to Americans — that is, &&&according to the Supreme Court&&&&, U.S. citizens &&&&and those aliens who&&&&, by lawfully weaving themselves into the fabric of our society, have become part of our national community &&&&(which is to say, lawful permanent resident aliens).&&&&

"My expert" successfully prosecuted "the blind sheikh." responsible for the first WTC attack.

NCS is right: I've been feeding a troll. A ditz. A flake. A nullity. A congenital liar . An anti-Semite ("genocide is a Jewish value")

My bad.

I'll bet Bollinger's surprise smackdown of his Hero Achmedinajad spoiled his entire day.

Over and out.
Noah Zark writes: Monday, September, 24, 2007 5:47 PM
paddy o'wagon weighs in............
per wikipededia:

"The Preamble to the United States Constitution consists of a single sentence (a preamble) which introduces the document and its purpose. The preamble neither grants any governmental powers nor inhibits any of its actions, but serves to explain the reason behind the U.S. Constitution.

The preamble of the U.S. Constitution does not assign any powers to the federal government,[2] yet the Supreme Court has cited from the preamble in consideration of the history, intent and meaning of various clauses which follow it in the Constitution.

>>>But not to rule on the meaning and scope of article 1, Sec. 9 .

[3] As Joseph Story said in his Commentaries, "Its true office is to expound the nature and extent and application of the powers actually conferred by the Constitution, and not substantively to create them."[4]

The language "We the People" explains that the power and authority of the federal government of the United States does not come from the various states, or even from the peoples of the from the greater entity identified as the people of the United States of America."

Wikipedia's hardly dispositive as a legal source, but if paddy can find ANY federal case that applies the "People" of the Preamble to the reading of the habeas corpus clause, I'd like to see it.

BUT MORE TO THE POINT: Our ancestors, aka "WE, the People", established a government, OUR government. "WE, the People of the United States" cannot be construed to include enemy aliens!

If someone were to say that terrorists captured in other countries while waging war against us deserved access to the CIVIL procedure called habeas corpus, our ancestors "the People" they would look at you as if you were stark....raving...mad.
JASinCA writes: Monday, September, 24, 2007 5:03 PM
Hugh has a vivid imagination
Oh c'mon Hugh this is crazy fringy stuff. To try and tar mainstream Democrats with this blog is beyond desperation. This woman represents mainstream Democrats about as much as David Duke represents mainstream Republicans.
paddy o'furniture writes: Monday, September, 24, 2007 4:05 PM
Sheesh....
Person is the singular of people, as in "We the people of the United States," in the freakin' preamble.....

I really think it's time I stopped coming here....there are so many ignorami.....
NeoConScum writes: Monday, September, 24, 2007 3:54 PM
NOAH...Are You Nuts ?
Feeding the foaming-never-an-unexpressed-thought
dimwit all that energy food by way of responses??
What are you thinking??DON'T FEED S-tido,for gawdsakes,please!!A poster child Malignant Narcissist of the bollomless appetite variety.

Let it go, Boy-yo.
Noah Zark writes: Monday, September, 24, 2007 3:27 PM
Nothing we really need....
If sentido disappeared from this site and the face of the earth, would anyone notice after a day?

As usual, he ignores most of what I wrote, takes it upon himself (!!) to decide what the US and ROW "really need", and repeats his empty assertions.

Inventions the entire world benefits from?.

World-class universities?

Billions in annual imports of high-tech products and services, and in medical/scientific apparatus, to the US and around the world?.

Nahhhh...neither the US or the world would miss anything if Israel disappeared.

What a ditz.



Noah Zark writes: Monday, September, 24, 2007 3:21 PM
Where did I write that?
NO rights for non-citizens?
NZ: "Constitutional rights belong only to Americans"

Where did I write that? Point it out, please! Especially that bogus quote.

sen--------------------------------------------
Find *that* one in the Constitution ... you can't. Anyone subject to our jurisdiction may invoke its benefits -- note the use of "person," as opposed to "citizen," in the Bill of Rights.

While your ignorance can perhaps be cured, your gullibility appears to be a permanent defect."

*************************

Not what I said, and in any event you are wrong, in that your position is totally inapplicable to the writ of habeas corpus applying to alien enemy combatants, whether held outside the jurisdiction of the US or not.

The "person" issue in the BR has nothing to do with anything here, since habeas corpus is discussed in Art I, Sec 9:

"The privilege of the writ of habeas corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in cases of rebellion or invasion, the public safety may require it."

Notice that word, "privilege"? Far short of the word "right". Note further the vagueness, in that citizen or person is not used.

I ask again: did German POWs have access to the writ during WWII?

YES or NO?.

In any event you have conceded so much by not replying substatively that you are left to split hairs. Pitiful.

Worse, you are imagining horribles that simply don't apply to US citizens or lawful permanent residents.

Yawn.
Cooltruth writes: Monday, September, 24, 2007 2:56 PM
What's Giuliani's voter appeal?
Why bother to vote for Giuliani over Clinton or vice versa? Might as well just vote Socialist as to vote for either one of them. Ron Paul has the most intelligent platform of any candidate in the running so I'm voting for him. Why vote for more expensive stupidity? Haven't we had enough of it? Leave the people in Iraq to figure out how to run their country. They weren't the ones who sent the terrorists over here on 9/11. Who benefits from leaving troops over there now that Saddam is gone?
Noah Zark writes: Monday, September, 24, 2007 2:33 PM
Israel has nothing we want, nothing ..
Anyone who "buys" position that Israel has nothing we want or need or use, as sentido asserts, should visit these sites:

http://tinyurl.com/2rgpdb

Fifty Years of Science and Technology in Israel
(1998 article)

http://tinyurl.com/3ac8r2

(1997 tally of Israeli patents vs. other countries, based on population)

Oh by the way: Israeli inventors have received thousands of US patents over the years. The Arab world has applied for, let alone been granted, fewer than fifty patents.

http://www.strategicforesight.com/iwforum/farouk.htm

"The number of patents produced by Arabs is meager; during the past two decades, South Korea registered in the U.S. over 44 times the number of patents from all Arab countries combined."

---farouk al-Baz

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/US-Israel/U.S._Trade_with_Israel.html

(table of U.S. Israel trade stats : for 2006, $19 billion of imports, vs $10 million exports)

http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/statistics/product/enduse/imports/c5081.html

((breakdown of Israel exports to US. Note the
high levels of high-tech and medical/scientific

http://www.science.co.il/Univ.asp

(World-class universities)

[for some reason I am unable to find a list of world-class universities in the Arab world...]

I'll allow some time to let the rubble stop bouncing.
Noah Zark writes: Monday, September, 24, 2007 2:06 PM
Sentido: Yes, but...yes, but...yes, but
sSentido: you keep shifting the goalpost. You said detainees had no access to the courts. I showed you were wrong.

NOW you are arguing habeas corpus.

More Andrew mccarthy, same article:

"AL QAEDA TERRORISTS HAVE NO CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS
First, Congress cannot “suspend” habeas corpus by denying it to people who have no right to it in the first place. The right against suspension of habeas corpus is found in the Constitution (art. I, 9). Constitutional rights belong only to Americans — that is, according to the Supreme Court, U.S. citizens and those aliens who, by lawfully weaving themselves into the fabric of our society, have become part of our national community (which is to say, lawful permanent resident aliens). To the contrary, aliens with no immigration status who are captured and held outside the territorial jurisdiction of the United States, and whose only connection to our country is to wage a barbaric war against it, do not have any rights, much less “basic rights,” under our Constitution."

Again: US Citizens are not subject to the MCA.

A person held under the MCA can use the DTA to show that he is a US citizen. If he does, he's handed over to a criminal court.

ALIEN unlawful or lawful enemy combatants don't have habeas corpus rights, and NEVER have. ask yourself how many German POWs we held in Europe and in the US had habeas corpus rights.

Virginia Patriot writes: Monday, September, 24, 2007 2:01 PM
Rudy, Conservative?
Pro-abortion, Anti-2nd amendment, Pro-gay rights, Pro illegal alien. Not conservative by any rational standard.

The so-called "top tier" will not get out the voters necessary for a GOP win. Increasing turnout is the key. Give people something to vote for. Not just the lesser of two evils. Won't work this time. People are fed up with the inundation of illegal aliens. They would come out in droves for the clear choice of D=amnesty or R=enforcement. They will stay home if they both equal amnesty. Why bother if your choice is New York liberal A or B. Or R or D.
Ryan01 writes: Monday, September, 24, 2007 1:54 PM
Ahmadinajad
This for all of you who have your bowels in an uproar over Ahamdinejad's speech. He's going to be on C-Span at some point today.
http://www.c-span.org/watch/index.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS

Before you watch him you need to watch this to put you in the proper state of mind and remember to cross your wrists and yell.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7Kznmrc3o4

Enjoy. :D
Noah Zark writes: Monday, September, 24, 2007 1:42 PM
Flake, Kook and moron: sentido
sentido: "And who gets to decide whether you are or are not a US citizen? The President and his corrupt cronies? How can you have judicial oversight when you can't get access to a lawyer or a court? How can you get Congressional oversight when you are being held incommunicado, the White House can ignore subpoenas because they say so, and even your family doesn't where you are?"

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=YWNlMjg3YWRlNmNjMTk0NDc1NzE0ZWI2YzBlOGRlNzU=

"Last December [of 2006], Congress enacted the Detainee Treatment Act (DTA). It requires that the military must grant each detainee a Combatant Status Review Tribunal (CSRT) at which to challenge his detention. Assuming the military’s CSRT process determines he is properly detained, the detainee then has a right to appeal to our civilian-justice system — specifically, to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit. And if that appeal is unsuccessful, the terrorist may also seek certiorari review by the Supreme Court."

Once again, you betray a shocking level of ignorance.
Noah Zark writes: Monday, September, 24, 2007 1:30 PM
One confused dude: sentido
I agree that federal judicial impeachment is rare, but it was YOU who intimated there is no recourse in "Kelo" cases, which is off-point; the "eminent domain" Kelo cases you refer to occur at the STATE and LOCAL level.

Many conservatives would some federal judges to be impeached for abuse of power. Bribe-taking is farther down the list, but it is a helluva lot easier to prove. See Alcee Hastings.

Just about all fifty states have judicial impeachment procedures, most enshrined in their constitutions. States DO impose judicial discipline:

http://www.ajs.org/ethics/eth_impeachement.asp

"In 2006, as a result of state judicial discipline proceedings, 12 judges were removed from office; 11 judges resigned or retired in lieu of discipline pursuant to agreements with judicial commissions that were made public; 1 judge was required to retire; and 4 former judges were barred from serving in judicial office. 111 additional judges (or former judges in 9 cases) were publicly sanctioned in 2006. There were 18 suspensions without pay with the length of the suspensions ranging from 5 days to 2 years. There were 18 public censures, 30 public admonishments, 35 public reprimands, 2 public warning, 2 cease and desist orders, and 6 public informal adjustments."

Face it: you just don't know what you're taling about.





Ryan01 writes: Monday, September, 24, 2007 1:21 PM
Noah Zark
"And a hearty EFF YOU! to the witless RYAN, who shoots off his mouth and makes NO arguments based on facts or reason, offering instead strings of unsupported gibberish."

Zark,

Thanks for proving my point. You're emoting here. What I wrote above was an opinion based on my own observations about folks like you, whether you call yourselves "liberal" or (neo)"conservatives".

By the way, I won't goes so far as to call AIPAC as a terrorist organization. Instead, I'll call it an unregistered agent of the Israeli government that should be investigated for interfering in US domestic affairs. I haven't forgotten about Steve Rosen and Keith Weissman and their upcoming spy trial.

Sentido is right. The US should plot a path in its best interest instead of a philio-semitic one that folks like you who seem to think that Israel and the US are the same country. They are not.
Noah Zark writes: Monday, September, 24, 2007 1:11 PM
Sentido: Can you effing READ???
Feral idiot child! the MCA would not have applied to Padilla or Walker, because they are US citizens. The MCA was written to clarify the status of ALIEN, deignated unlawful enemy combatants (aka terrorists), captured and held outside the US.

To return to the POINT: you say our civil liberties are being eroded. You cite anti-terrorism measures that are aimed at ALIENS. You offer no cases post Walker/Padilla/or the MCA, the new FISA or anything else where American citizens have had their rights infringed.

You are a nullity.
Noah Zark writes: Monday, September, 24, 2007 1:00 PM
walk?...talk?..QUACK?
sentido not an anti-semite? Explain these quotes of his, from this same site, made yesterday:

sen "If we had any sense, we'd declare AIPAC to be a terrorist organization, and chart a foreign policy that is in OUR best interest."

sen "Genocide is a Jewish value"
Briggsy: "Remember the theme song from Exodus?

"This land is mine, God gave this land to me...""
-------------------------------------------
They always seem to forget the act of genocide they admittedly committed to steal it...."

sen "If Israel suddenly vanished from the face of the earth, would we even miss it, and why? It has nothing we need and arguably, nothing we want."

QED

And a hearty EFF YOU! to the witless RYAN, who shoots off his mouth and makes NO arguments based on facts or reason, offering instead strings of unsupported gibberish.
Noah Zark writes: Monday, September, 24, 2007 12:41 PM
Bed-wetting
To sentido:

SO WHAT!!?

You can point to TWO guys, one of whom was tried (Walker), and the other (Padilla) who was given access to a lawyer thanks to the judge now nominated to be AG.

TWO US citizens, both captured/arrested right during 2002, one fighting against us in Afghanistan, the other charged with having associated with Al Qaeda, a terrorist organization, and entering the US with the intent to make and explode a "dirty bomb".

BOTH with access to lawyers and legal counsel. BOTH convicted in criminal court. BOTH with rights of appeal. YES, controversy as to their legal status, etc., but both cases resolved in favor of having them stand trial in criminal court.

And during the 5 years since then......??????

Since the MCA is aimed at ALIENS, the Padilla and Walker cases are well off-point. Ditto your concern for habeas corpus, which has never applied to enemy combatants captured and held outside the United States, which is ALSO the target of the MCA.

If that's the basis for your enuresis, you should run out and buy some Pampers.


Ryan01 writes: Monday, September, 24, 2007 12:41 PM
sentido
Sentido,

When they start throwing around the "antisemite" charge, you know you have just won the argument. They are unable to make an intelligent argument and have started to emote instead, just like those dreaded "liberals" they always whine about.

This is funny. I bet some of these folks here were up in arms over Clinton and the FBI files as they should have, but when it comes to their guy, the one with an "R" after his name it's different. They are no different than the Clinton defenders with their nonsense about their boy with a "D" after his name. Like you, I hate hypocrisy as well and all these partisans are the opposite sides of the same coin.

I can see that they are the spiritual descendents of the original Blues and Greens of Byzantine fame. It really is about "their team" and to hell with everything else.
Cuban Pete writes: Monday, September, 24, 2007 12:09 PM
I'm-tha-damn-jihad...
...has become the Neo Commies' new heartthrob and poster boy. Look at all the acceptance of the Islamo-fascist enabling their fresh bouts of Bush-bashing. Maybe he'll replace ol' martyred Che in their T-shirts. "Allah et Aqbauh, Kosrades".
Noah Zark writes: Monday, September, 24, 2007 11:55 AM
Crush?
A poor choice of words, given that a Jewish lesbian setting foot in Iran would very soon find herself being crushed by a falling wall.

Still, she's a "useful idiot" --- sensible Americans will recognize personal and political derangement in a woman who admires Achmedinejad (who would have her dead in his country) over Boosh, who leaves her alone.

From a gay/lesbian website in Iran calling itself pglo.net:

"Iranian LGBT people not only suffer under the Islamic punishment code of Islamic republic of Iran, but also suffer persecution in family life, in the workplace, and in other social aspects of their lives. We have seen cases in which a father has threatened and even attempted to kill his son because the young man was in a sexual relationship with someone of the same sex. Because of this father’s bigotry, this child has had to flee his home and family life. This case, one of many PGLO has encountered, is not uncommon. This is a reality in Iran, and unfortunately in feeling persecuted and unloved, many LGBT people must run away from their homes or turn to suicide as the easiest way to leave their misery behind.

"... We are reminded of a tragic case from last year in which two teenagers were hanged in the northeastern city of Mash'had. Most likely after being interrogated and tortured, the boys had admitted to having sex with each other and stated that they were not aware that same-sex sexual relationship was punished by death. Prior to their execution, the teenagers were held in prison for 14 months and were severely beaten with lashes. The length of their detention suggests that they committed the so-called offenses more than a year earlier, when they were around the age of 16."

Say! Maybe the left can "order" Dick Cheney to send his lesbian daughter to Iran, as a "goodwill ambassador"!?
Shocker writes: Monday, September, 24, 2007 11:47 AM
not worth fighting for
As a white, heterosexual, Christian man I no longer beleive what once was the USA is worth fighting for. From what I see, Islam isn't much of a sacrifice for heterosexual men. I'll stand by while the Islamic radicals win, then convert to Islam and pray five times a day. My life will go on, maybe I'll even add a wife or two. It will be great to see the radical feminists, homosexuals, Washington elites and hollywood trash meet the fate they so richly deserve. Just call me Ishmail.
Bucko writes: Monday, September, 24, 2007 11:39 AM
"sallykohn" ,at D-KOS, is the...
Jewish-lesbian (her words) equivalent of Charles Lindbergh "swooning" about Adolph at a 1930's "America First" rally.
Noah Zark writes: Monday, September, 24, 2007 11:39 AM
LOL!
The learned anti-semite sentido writes: "In the name of "homeland security," our government can open our mail, put GPS trackers on our cars, break into our homes, and listen in on our telephone conversations."

Yes, the government "CAN", under very restricted conditions. But its targets are terrorist suspects, not blameless citizens.

NAME ONE American citizen to whom these alleged horrors have happened, and then was falsely accused and arrested. Then name hundreds more, to show widespread practice. Meanwhile Achmed hangs gays, has his goons beat up women who dress "improperly", rips satellite dishes from roofs, stones to death adulterous women, etc..

"Under the Military Commissions Act, the government can declare you a "terrorist" and whisk you off the street a la the KGB; you can be held indefinitely without benefit of a hearing in front of a judge or even access to a lawyer."

Bullshite: the "you" has to be an ALIEN "unlawful enemy combatant" as defined by the statue. Some say the statute is vague on the point, but not the Bush admin or the drafters.

"And if some corrupt judge takes a bribe from your opponent to hand your home to someone else in a blatantly lawless ruling, you are completely bereft of recourse."

Snort! A liberal majority of the Supremes handed down the detested Kelo decision. It doesn't excuse "corrupt" judges, the homeowner gets (frankly inadequate) compensation, AND the right of appeal.

"Iran, by contrast, holds its judges PERSONALLY liable for their willful misconduct on the bench. It's right there in their constitution."

BWAAAAAhahahahahahah!!!! Such child-like faith! I bet you believed the crap enshrined in the old Soviet Constitution too.

Corrupt judges can and have been impeached, fined, tossed off the bench here. How many in Iran?
cyndu writes: Monday, September, 24, 2007 9:40 AM
Evil
My personal views:
Evil always wants to have a conversation.
Evil always wants to engage in dialogue.

Without a discussion, the only thing left standing in the room are the evil acts. So evil needs a cover, and that cover is meaningless words - discussion and reasoning and dialogue.

That's why I believe that to say, "he does evil, but I really like some of the things he says" is to be totally ignorant of evil and how it works.

We all understanding this is business ("he walks the walk, not just talks the talk") and we should understand it in other domains also.

I would suggest that to truely detect evil, one needs to watch what is being done, not what is being said. One needs to watch who is being attacked, and who and what is being destroyed. (And it seems to me that evil abhors freedom, attacks innocence and the helpless first, and always plays to our natural desire to be fair and 'open minded' to buy room to manuver.)

Anyway, that's how I see it at this point.
Ryan01 writes: Monday, September, 24, 2007 9:06 AM
Sentido, LP
I think what we hear is an echo chamber. I could be wrong, but I hope that this is simply a noisy minority. The Democrats have the Move On crowd, the Republicans have these people.

Stupidity and ignorance is truly bi-partisan. With HNAV's post above one could write a Podhoretz size essay going into great detail of all the mistakes and lies in it.
=========
"Quite a comedown from the days of Russell Kirk and Allan Bloom, eh?!""

They never heard of them, particularly Kirk. They grew up suckling such (neo)"conservatives" heavy weights like Jonah Goldberg and Rich Lowery.
esbiem writes: Monday, September, 24, 2007 8:53 AM
visiting Columbia
My 17-year old son visited Columbia University Friday as part of his search for the right college to attend. He wishes he could have visited today but he was impressed with the amount of posters strewn across campus denouncing the Ahmadinejad vist to the campus and calling for a mass protest. It seems that the protest is being sponsored by many of the usual liberal suspects, homosexuals, Jews, and even feminists. Maybe this will be the second greatest generation after all. Time will tell.
Ryan01 writes: Monday, September, 24, 2007 8:37 AM
HNAV part three
"He's fool and doesn't even understand the power of the Free Market, and how Global Markets continues to increase the quality of life in the USA."
More ignorance on your part. The dollar is tanking and it will get worse due to Bernanke dumping billions of new dollars on the market in an attempt to reinflate the housing bubble. Paul knows that only the government or in this case, a private central bank can cause inflation.

“Ron Paul wants to make the USA something it never was, nor was ever intended.”
It was that way until the War for Southern Independence. Lincoln changed the relationship between the states and the federal government.

”In fact, the entire 'constitutional' movement isn't conservative at all, but largely closed minded.”

If anyone is guilty of this, it is you for you obviously haven’t read the first thing about Ron Paul and are only parroting what some talk show host has claimed and what some hack columnist has written.

”It doesn't even understand what the powers provided the Presidency by the Constitution.”

No, he understands the powers much better than you do. You don’t want a president. You want a dictator and would love to see Bush in that position and if not him, Guiliani.

”Those who embrace this fashionable ignorance should rethink their delusion.

It is pure escapism from reality.”

Your entire post in delusional and an escape from reality along with being filled with lies. I suggest you take a vacation and do some research.
Ryan01 writes: Monday, September, 24, 2007 8:36 AM
HNAV part two
[Part two]

"If the USA decides to stop leading in this World, simply shuts it's doors, and pretends the rest of the Globe doesn't exist, Our Nation will slowly fade away."
It isn't our business to "lead the world", as you put it, but to see to this nation first. While being number one during the Cold War was necessary, that was then. This is today and the Cold War is no more, unless lunatics like Richard Perle succeed in starting another one. Once again, I remind you we are bankrupt. As for "fading away", I would point out that Bush is doing everything he can by not enforcing the immigration laws and allowing the US to be invaded by hordes of illegal aliens. For that willful failure alone he should be impeached and removed from office. I'd go so far as to say that if it wasn't for this war he would have been a one term president for pushing for amnesty.

" Ron Paul World would have allowed Hitler and Stalin to gobble up everything, even eventually the USA."
What's your proof of this? Paul believes in national defense. He doesn't believe in the neocon version which is more akin to the Trotskyite version of exporting revolution. Paul believes in the "Just War" doctrine as outlined by St. Augustine. I will also point out to you that one of the reasons why Hitler (and Lenin) ultimately came to power was due to the US getting involved in WW I. Had the Wilson administration minded its own business there was a good chance that a negotiated peace might have come about instead of the hideous Treaty of Versaille.

Ryan01 writes: Monday, September, 24, 2007 8:30 AM
HVAC doesn't know squat about Paul
[Part one]

This post by HNAV is breathtaking in the ignorance it displays.
HNAV writes: Monday, September, 24, 2007 3:56 AM 4. Ron Paul-Constitution Party... LOON Ron Paul is NOT a Conservative...

"And Rudy is NOT a Liberal..."

No, I would call him a fascist with his views on issues like gun control. Actually, that is insulting to fascists. At least some of them would take up arms for their beliefs. Rudy used deferments to insure he would never darken the doorway of a barracks. No, he is simply a demagogue.

"Ron Paul is a mindless isolationist, who actually leans for more liberal than he does rational."

I would call him a non-interventionalist. Paul believes in engaging other nations via commerce. If anyone can be accused of being an isolationist, it would be Bush and his foreign policy. It has cost the US a lot of support with the stupid Iraq adventure.

"Ron Paul's ignorant vision for the USA, would be a disaster, almost as foolish as sticking one's head in the sand."

How so? Is promoting fiscal responsibility and minding our own business such a bad thing? In case you aren't aware of it, we are bankrupt. Another overseas folly will either throw us into a recession or worse, a depression.

"Ronald Reagan would consider the entire Ron Paul mindset as folly."
This is funny. Paul was one of only four Republicans to endorse Reagan in 1976. Better yet, let the great man speak for himself about Ron Paul.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyXW1hb-JQg
Reagan also got us out of land operations in the Middle East after the Lebanon debacle, saying that he didn’t realize the depth of craziness in that part of the world.

richard_223 writes: Monday, September, 24, 2007 8:19 AM
Declne and Fall
Jimbo wrote:'Can a country survive for long that has a significant portion that hates it and wants it to be humiliated and defeated on the battlefield?'

No. A culture that had confidence in itself would never have this discussion, a a culture that does is doomed.
Liberal Patriot writes: Monday, September, 24, 2007 8:19 AM
The Erosion Continues..
No wonder no one takes you guys seriously any more. You cluck cluck over how the left is loonier than it was in 1972--which everyone knows is plainly false--and then you link to a Kos thread to prove it. It would be like linking to Free Republic commentary and saying "look at the state of conservative thought in America. Quite a comedown from the days of Russell Kirk and Allan Bloom, eh?!"

Comes a point when hysterical arguments lose their resonancy. You guys have approached that point.
Vorpal writes: Monday, September, 24, 2007 8:02 AM
I will admit that
the thought occurred to me that the Kos poster may not represent the entirity of the looney left, but there are far more comments on that thread, than this one, so go read it and see if people agree or not. Most agree. There is an occassional voice of reason.

BTW, Van, you really need an explanation on why it is different for "Christians" threatening violence against Iran and Ahmadinejad threatening the US? Really? You are really so morally obtuse that you can not distinguish between wary self-defense and aggressive posturing?

Really simple then: if Iran actually attacks our troops in Iraq AND threatens to attack us AND threatens to attack our close allies, we prepare to defend ourselves. In fact we are complete idiots if we ignore that threat. Not for the least reason that the Iranians have made good on similiar threats. That defense should and ought to include effective pre-emption.

See? Real easy.
Hawkeye writes: Monday, September, 24, 2007 7:56 AM
Van in Sheeps Clothing
Van,

Is that you Bill Maher??
NeoConScum writes: Monday, September, 24, 2007 7:24 AM
Van...Thank You For The Wonderful..
..reminder that kosroid nutters love to gather and infest Hugh's site.Yep,Vanny,those pesky Christians...Nawwwww,Not worth the keyboard time.

Van writes: Monday, September, 24, 2007 5:34 AM
Once again
Townhall uses words of ONE poster among thousands to represent whole movement or political party.

OK, two people can play this game. In Townhall columnist Doug Giles described in detail how he would beat up a gay man by crushing first his hands, then legs, they beat his face in and drag his "beaten and badly bruised" body along the streets. Several regular commenters in Townhall have on regular basis demanded mutilations, killings or detainment of gay citizens of USA.

Now should we say that those posters reprsent ALL conservatives and that all conservatyive Christians ore potentially murderous people prone to violence and who advocate for human rights violations and violence against gays?

Actually i do believe it is fair to say that Christians are evil, at least as evil as Ahmadinejad. After all he demands killing you, you advocate for killing Iranian civilians. The difference was where exactly?
MerryKate37 writes: Monday, September, 24, 2007 4:03 AM
Hypocrisy, anyone?
I sometimes forget why we call them moonbats, but this woman's post is a shocking reminder. She herself is gay, and wouldn't survive five minutes in Ahmanjinidad's Iran, but he's okay - he hates Bush! Plus, he has dreamy eyes...just like Kermit the Frog. Gloria Steinem must be curling into a ball somewhere.

Such enlightened thinking! With logic like that, she could only be a graduate of the ivy league.
HNAV writes: Monday, September, 24, 2007 3:56 AM
4. Ron Paul-Constitution Party... LOON
Ron Paul is NOT a Conservative...

And Rudy is NOT a Liberal...

Ron Paul is a mindless isolationist, who actually leans for more liberal than he does rational.

Ron Paul's ignorant vision for the USA, would be a disaster, almost as foolish as sticking one's head in the sand.

Ronald Reagan would consider the entire Ron Paul mindset as folly.

If the USA decides to stop leading in this World, simply shuts it's doors, and pretends the rest of the Globe doesn't exist, Our Nation will slowly fade away.

A Ron Paul World would have allowed Hitler and Stalin to gobble up everything, even eventually the USA.

He is a fool, and doesn't even understand the power of the Free Market, and how Global Markets continues to increase the quality of life in the USA.

Ron Paul wants to make the USA something it never was, nor was ever intended.

In fact, the entire 'constitutional' movement isn't conservative at all, but largely closed minded.

It doesn't even understand what the powers provided the Presidency by the Constitution.

Those who embrace this fashionable ignorance should rethink their delusion.

It is pure escapism from reality.
Craig writes: Monday, September, 24, 2007 3:37 AM
Hiding in Plain Sight
Sorry, but these opinions will never come to the attention of the bulk of the population. Never. This isn't "news". and the MSM will never cover it.
Craig writes: Monday, September, 24, 2007 3:36 AM
Hiding in Plain Sight
Sorry, but these opinions will never come to the attention of the bulk of the population. Never. This isn't "news". and the MSM will never cover it.
Jimbo writes: Monday, September, 24, 2007 2:48 AM
Yup
When a cancer (McGovernitism) returns and is more virulent than the previous time, as you say it is, then the prospect for the host's recovery is much less likely.

Can a country survive for long that has a significant portion that hates it and wants it to be humiliated and defeated on the battlefield?

What good could possibly come from that?
Joe writes: Monday, September, 24, 2007 2:22 AM
Past vs. Present
Some Americans said similar positive things about Hitler in WWII. They were wrong.

Thanks for reminding me how wrong many on the left are now.
Jack in Phoenix writes: Monday, September, 24, 2007 1:37 AM
At least the "crush" part is correct...
Hugh:
Is netroots a code word for "the craziest, nuttiest one wins?"

I don't include the Kossacks in my daily reading, so when I'm exposed to such moonbat psychosis perhaps I overreact. But I would laugh in the person's face if I heard him/her actually speaking such drivel.

There is a crying need for serious mental health counseling, electroshock, Thorazine, whatever. They need it and they need it quick


johnstodder writes: Monday, September, 24, 2007 1:31 AM
Most insane thing I've seen on Kos
...and that's saying something.

I used to joke that some of my environmental friends might support David Duke because he was "good on wetlands." It was a joke. Everybody laughed.

But according to the Kos diarist, Ahmanjinidad can be forgiven the most atrocious words and deeds if he'll just join the hate-Bush brigade.

David Duke is probably ecstatic.
Surfin' USA writes: Monday, September, 24, 2007 1:26 AM
Useless Idiots

Have these people exposed themselves sufficiently for Main Street to see they have definitely gone round the bend?

If the world is going to Hell in a hand basket I would like to get off the train now thank you.
kchand writes: Monday, September, 24, 2007 1:09 AM
Hey, Ahmadinnerjacket ........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWGa9ViY7G8
kchand writes: Monday, September, 24, 2007 1:05 AM
Hey, Ahmadinnerjacket ........
http://tinyurl.com/2ggzph
roho writes: Monday, September, 24, 2007 12:53 AM
2008 Choice will be clear:
1. Hilary-Democratic Party...Northeast Liberal.
2. Rudy-Republican Party.....Northeast Liberal.
3. Bloomberg-Independent.....Northeast Liberal.
4. Ron Paul-Constitution Party..Conservative.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see the end result with these choices! A 3 way split with a conservative going in the Whitehouse.
kchand writes: Monday, September, 24, 2007 12:51 AM
Can we call them
un-American yet?
Gord Tulk writes: Monday, September, 24, 2007 12:48 AM
Hitler had his good features you know...
That blogger's tone is akin to saying:

"Sure Hitler had his flaws - killing 6 million jews and such but man, he sure built great highways and you have to admire him for that."

And saying it in 1944...
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