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that the media does not give him the same treatment it gave Obama. No more mister 'nice' guys. |
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I like all three of these canidates ,this will be a hard desicion. Lets hope they diferentiate themselves by running on their records and what they want to acomplish rather than nasty little attacks on each other |
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I am so disgusted with the republican party right now - it will take me some time to recover. I swore I would never vote for McCain - then was so scared by Obama and his associations - I sent money to McCains campaign. Now McCain is getting cozy with Obama - he may well be the "60th" democrat.... along with that rat - Linsey Graham...( make that 61...)
Of all the potential republican candidates out there - Bobby is the ONLY ONE I trust at the moment. If he stays true to his word and continues to do well - he already has my vote. |
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on the New York best seller list in just 6 days of promotion even though so many people on here don't like him and like to bash him a lot.
The popularity of the book shows me that he is still very popular with a lot of people and will be right there in 2012 in contention with Palin and Jindal, either of whom I would love to see run. The problem is, which one would I support? Heck, why can't we have them all? |
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Jindahl is still young. Get experience in. Stop the id politics and start voting right. This is the problem with the GOP rightnwo. They don't want to admit they have been barking up the wrong trees. And who knows? Obama might be a very good president. |
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there you go again,slamming jindal now .
This idiot thanks only mitt the rino is fit for the job , These three are conservitives ,mitty is not ,his record in mass. proves it |
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While I like Jindal's work as governor thus far, I must say they he comes off as a policy wonk in his TV interviews. He has a tendency to drone on and on about his subjects, causing this viewer to lose interest. He appears to have a pretty good grasp of the issues, but I think he needs a bit more passion in his public appearances. He does remind me of Obama in this respect, and it isn't a good thing. |
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He's a CREATIONIST! Do you really want to go down that Stupid Party path yet again? |
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Since President Bush is now judged to be the 'face' of the GOP, nominating an astoundingly intelligent candidate might not be such a bad idea. I'm tired of my party being seen as the 'stupid' party; I'm even more tired of my party's leaders willingness to prove it. Bobby Jindal completely undermines this sometimes all-too-true caricature. If Obama develops a reputation for being in 'over his head', then Jindal's managerial competence, his wonkishness, may be very reassuring.
At this point, assuming Obama does poorly as president, I think the 2012 nominee is very likely to be either Jindal or Palin. Both have similar task ahead-effectively running their states while mastering the national issues. Both also have 4 years to master the medium of television as well as developing fresh, conservative approaches to our national problems. May the best man, or woman, win.
Our 2008 candidates were all duds, if you ask me. If Huckabee or Romney is the candidate in 2012, then the Republican party is even worse shape than I suspect. It's time to turn the page. |
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whats wrong with being a creationist? surely it makes more sense than being an accidentist? |
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Munch what is your problem with creationists? |
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The only thing that frightens the Obammi dorks is that Jindal actually has a brain, not being pulled up and down with puppet strings like their candidate.
Obammi supporters your loser with fall big time within the next 4 years!
Watch you fools! |
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"whats wrong with being a creationist?"
It demonstrates utter and abysmal stupidity, an inability to deal with facts and the most rudimentary aspects of science. Most of the major christian religions, save only the fringe evangelicals, reject creationism.
Jindal was actually a biology major at Brown, home of one of the foremost evolutionary biologists, Ken Miller. Miller is, like Jindal, a devout Catholic and author of "Finding Darwin's God: A Scientist's Search for Common Ground Between God and Evolution" and "In Only a Theory," an analysis of the Dover Trial in which creationism was roundly defeated. (Ken took a course from me once, and was in my wife's graduating class.)
Brown is a fairly small place, about 5,800 undergraduates, and the Biology Department is a tiny fraction of that. Despite that, Jindal never even met Ken Miller. That's denial.
Jindal did, on the other hand, perform an exorcism while an undergraduate. The Catholic Church does not allow laymen to do exorcisms. |
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I have a creator, and you are?
Oh yeah thats right your parents squatted and dumped and made you!
LOL, you fit your birth canal!!
Loser! |
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"I have a creator, and you are?"
Did that sentence make sense to you? |
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Munch, I have a creator, and you are, what? Created, dumped or hanging from trees?
Dumb monkeys have to be shown, not talked to eh? |
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"Created, dumped or hanging from trees?"
I'm the product of a billion years of natural selection, survival of the fittest. You are too, but in your case the part about "increased intelligence in order to manipulate the environment" wasn't operative. It is unlikely that superstition is a survival trait. |
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My Daughter works in an ER in New Orleans. She says the medicaid system is a disaster - hospitals going broke and understaffed, patients with no clue that someone pays for medical care, etc. It may be runing a surplus
The evacuation from Hurricane Gustav was a success because Gustav turned out to be a somewhat of a dud; otherwise hundreds of thousands would have been stranded in traffic on the freeways when it hit.
The crime rate is worse than when he took office and he's so far done nothing to end the corruption endeic to the state. |
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science does an excellent job of explaining the mechanics of how things work.but it does a poor job of answering the most important questions of why we are here and who we are. |
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Munch, selection of what, Ape, Monkey, Gorilla? Big Bang I hit my head theory? Come on munch tell me exactly what theory you believe in. If you don't I will go with your mommy going to the toidy, taking a dump and having daddy come in and both of them admire their masterpiece? If you don't believe in Creation, you believe in NOTHING! |
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If you say that "It is unlikely that superstition is a survival trait" and you equate religious belief or the belief in a creator with superstition, how do you explain it's peristence and universality? |
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I guess that means that Jindal is an unprincipled power luster who will say and do anything to get elected.
If Jindal wants the presidency then he should demonstrate his ability to downsize the LA government, lower taxes, decrease spending, revamp the education system along free market lines, stop environmentalists from destroying the business environment, increase freedom and inspire people with a strong individualist philosophy.
Wanna bet he doesn't do any of these things?
After all, he's a Republican, the people who invented big government (Abraham Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, etc).
Jindal, like the rest of the Republicans, will do none of these things and then blame his failure on a Democratic legislature.
Republicans are not the answer. They are, now and forever, the party of the Bushes, the Romneys and the rest of the old money aristocrats. Who led the charge for bailouts? Who is still pushing for more bailouts?
The Republican philosophy is what comes out of the south end of a north bound bull. Terminate the Republican party and start all over. |
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so I guess he's the best qualified to run against Obama, I'm sure most Republicans think. I say to hell with all of them. Republicans have proven they are in perfect agreement with Democrats about the nature of government. |
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at least he's more experienced that Palin. Of course, that's not very hard to be. More to govern in LA than in AK. |
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I'm not 2 cents. Must be nice to be like you with so many personalities.
Who are you today? James Beam? Is that something one consumes before voting gop this term? |
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for ANYONE that is "the Republican's version of Obama"........
I refuse to vote for an empty suit with a Socialist agenda...... |
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is not a good choice in 12. Still wet behind the ears. I do like him scads better than the beauty queen. But I know. You can't vote for him because he's got darker skin and is Catholic. You'll find something freaky about him. His birth cert maybe? |
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Neither Governors Jindal nor Palin have yet finished their first term so it is premature to ask either of them to step onto the national scene and clean up the mess left by Bush and McCain. Both have potential but we need to keep in mind that potential means exactly that- "Potential"
It will be necessary for the next candidate -whether Governors Palin,Jindal,et al is immaterial at this stage- to bring in their own set of campaign staffs to the national scene. Once these Governors complete their terms of office and- especially if they win re-election- they will have an experienced staff loyal to them to bring with them. Otherwise they will have to depend on hired hacks who are not loyal to anyone but themselves.Notice how the so-called professional campaign staff of McCain mis-handled Gov. Palin then tried to blame her for their inability to win. |
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Bobby Jindal IS what Obama pretends to be: an intellectual and an agent of reform.
And for the person who said that Jindal has more experience than Palin, it just goes to show how the media shapes opinion, since she has actually been a governor for a year longer than him. |
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would be finer. He doesn't have a term to finish out, and he has proven he is a fighter and can hold his own with the rest of them. |
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I noticed great concern with Mitt Romney's Mormonism.
I noticed great concern over Sarah Palin's fundamentalist beliefs.
I noticed great concern over all republican's pro life and sanctity of marriage stands.
I notice your growing concern over Bobby Jindal's belief in creationism?
I noticed Obama's belief in Black Liberation theology didn't matter at all.
I notice Prop 8 and similar bills succeeded all over the country despite Obama's landslide.
You can try to demonize people for their religious beliefs, but I believe it says more about you than it does about them.
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on Jindal's skin color are the ones that are messed up .Who cares about the color of a man's skin anyway? It is his character that counts.I don't think Obama is a bad person ,but i despise his politics. as for 2 cents you can't blame her racism is ingrained in mormon teachings inspite of their current revalatiob. |
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I really like this guy first off. If he runs for presidency I will switch from an (I)ndepent to a (R)epublican on my voters registration card to vote for him in the primaries. I can only hope that he would win the nomination. However, I would love to see how the MSM try to cut him down and see how many bad Indian Durka Durka jokes pop up. It would show everyone how truly hypocritical our media is. After all, I never once heard the 'N' word mentioned by anyone in the MSM while Obambi was running. No hood slang, nothing. However, when it is a minority Republican running, oh boy!
I can't wait for liberal outlets like SNL start comparing Jindal to Indian technical support agents with the heavy accent. It will be VERY bad but I only hope the MSM pulls through and shows its true colors. That being, it's okay to be a minority as long as you are a Democrat. If you are a Republican minority, you are just another Uncle Tom. I'll laugh when it finally back fire son them people stop watching non-sense like SNL and stop giving NBC money! |
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One of the things that I am noticing is the constant appeal by republican political leaders to Bobby Jindal as the future of the Republican Party as well as a usual mention that Sarah Plain is not the future of the GOP. This has come from Newt Gingrich, Hugh Hewitt, and Mark Sanford to name a few and the Republican Governors Association snubbed Palin by not giving her any position. Why is this the case? What is going on? There is no question that the GOP base loves Sarah Palin but the GOP leadership is trying to steer us toward Bobby Jindal, but why?
Let me state that I am not against Bobby Jindal as a man and a even a leader of the conservative movement, but I have grave concerns over him being the GOP pick in 2012, becaue I think he is a weak candidate for the following reasons. First, Bobby Jindal does not inspire people, even his own base. Second, Jindal simply lacks charisma. Third, he does not look presidential, and looks rather wimpy and yes looks can and do affect elections, remember the Kennedy-Nixon debates? Fourth, he has not accomplished much and his only claim to fame is hurricane Gustav. Fifth, when he ran for governor of Louisiana he ran against an extremely weak candidate in what is generally the only light blue state (save perhaps Virginia) in the south, can he win re-election in what is a democratic state? These are my concerns if he were to go up against Barak Obama who is great orator, a brilliant campaigner, and whose base thinks he's the messiah....(see part 2)
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(Read part 1 first)
Thus I ask why is the republican leadership pointing to him as the future of the GOP and not Sarah Palin? I think I may know why and it has to do with Sarah's claim to fame and this is the fact that Sarah Palin does not go with party lines. Sarah Palin took on the corrupt republicans in Alaska and won and the GOP political leadership is afraid that she would take this crusading zeal to the Washington beltway and root out corrupt republicans there as well. Sarah Palin is in most ways like former President Ronald Reagan, but in one regard she is radically different from Reagan. How so? President Reagan coined an 11th commandment, "Thou shalt not villify a fellow republican" and Sarah Palin simply does not believe this because she is a crusader against all forms incompetency and especially corruption, despite party lines. This is why the republican leadership does not want to see Sarah Palin as the future of the GOP, too many political careers in the GOP would be at stake. Yet the great irony is that for the very reason the GOP leadership does not like Sarah Palin, this is the same reason why the base of the GOP is in love with her. We see in her a new crusader who says what she means (with the tremendous skills of a highly gifted orator) and she means what she says. Sarah Palin is one of us the common GOP rank and file who became fed up with republican incompetence and she did something about it and now has the highest approval rating of any republican politician, including Bobby Jindal. It is for this reason that I believe we must ignore the GOP leaders and keep our hopes fixed on the one true crusader who has a history of doing the right thing despite political affiliations, and this is Sarah Palin.
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One of the weakest candidates the republicans can put forth. Wanna lose in 2012 nominate Bobby Jindal. |
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The republican base - you people who think President-elect Obama is a non-resident Muslim terrorist - are going to LOVE Piyush Jindal!
You'd better hope nobody finds out about his little "exorcism problem." |
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Bobby Jindal will be perceived as a weak and inexperienced candidate..........
hmmm................
Hey, that didn't stop the Dems from getting Comrade Obama elected with similar or lesser qualifications............. |
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As I said before the republican powers that be and many at Townhall.com as well are rooting for Bobby Jindal which would be an absolute disaster. But according to all recent polls about choices for the republican ticket in 2012 still has Sarah Palin as our choice and Jindal in the low single digits. I have said before not under estimate Sarah Palin, because like Ronald Reagan in 1980 she is going to have to take on the republican establishment and go with a massive well organized grassroots campaign which she excels at. I recently read this from "Sarah Palin: Faith, Family, & Country" by Susan Parr. Read the following from page
"One of the most remarkable facts surrounding the accomplishment of being elected Governor of Alaska is her grassroots campaign. It was comprised of dedicated, hard working people. These people though oridinary, were extrodinary- and they were people who simply who simply wanted change. She lacked the money, but not the manpower, to spread her name. And her victory was not hers alone, but it was also a victory for the common people."
Sarah is already a widely known and extremely beloved star of the republican base and if Bobby Jindal thinks he can take her place he is in for a surprise. |
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Jindal may be making news in certain circles today but he will be knocked into obscurity again tomorrow. Why? Sarah Palin will be campaigning in Georgia for Chambliss and the media will be watching and reporting on her events and the crowds she draws. Jindal will be found no where in the media. |
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Do you know who is a "believer" now his very own self? Darwin, yep, that's right! I hate to tell ya, but, you will be too, it just is a little late for Darwin to do anything about it.
So, ya gotta git it right, but I will promise you, you will be a "believer". |
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most "non-believers" become "believers" on their death bed.......
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"I will promise you, you will be a "believer"."
I'm 63 and have a bad heart; I've been very close to death a couple of times already. I had not the slightest hint of a "death-bed conversion." In fact, I find the idea of converting to such an illogical and contradictory superstition as christianity repulsive. |
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I was (and remain) enthusiastic about Gov. Palin's nomination as VP. Her relative un-known status made her an easy target for the MSM to trip up. Gov. Jindal has 2-3 years to hone his skills and become more well-known, as does Palin. I just think it's premature to point to any polls and draw significant or enduring conclusions at this point.
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Please push for Jindal as the future of the GOP! I'd love to see mid-American's reaction to the idea of a faith healer and exorcist in the White House.
It's as great as Caribou Barbie!!!! |
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Huckabee has screwed up one election already and we can't afford to have him spoil any more - Jindal and any other good candidate will need a shot without a pseudo conservative running to peel off the religious right for his own ego. |
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please explain how a canidate can screw up an election by running for office? Are you saying some people should not be allowed to run? I despise Romney ,but would never say he did not have the right to run. I would not vote for him and would do everything legally possible to defeat him . Perhaps you and Kathleen Parker should team up and form the anti oogedy boogedy facist party. |
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I think we will see
Palin,Romney,Rudy,and Bush,in 2012,
Governor Jeb Bush did a great job in Florida, Governor Sarah Palin is doing a great job in Alaska,
why not make a run for President,
Bush/Palin/Romney/Rudy,2012?
and if you think his name will hurt him,
we have a man named Barak Obama as President. |
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I would certainly hope the GOP woulds check out his record with the HHS and the real reason he left, before selecting him. His mishaps and bad judgment goes way back - even when he was secretary of the Louisiana Department of Health and Hospitals - he will probably go on record as being the governor who had the earliest recall petition. If not for the blundering of Edith Bunker before him he would not have been elected. Voters thought they could undo her mistakes by making another. Selling points would be - Louisiana one of the highest taxed states in the nation, FOUR (4) cities ranked in the 100 most dangerous list, not to mention the education rankings. |
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the Bushes ,It is time to rebuild, not resurect the same idiotic policys that that got us to this point. Romney ,Rudy and J Bush ,all apples off the same tired old tree . |
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I think we will see
Palin,Romney,Rudy,and Bush,in 2012,
Governor Romney,great for the economy,
Mayor Giuliani the backbone of America,
Governor Jeb Bush did a great job in Florida, Governor Sarah Palin is doing a great job in Alaska,
why not make a run for President,
Bush/Palin/Romney/Rudy,2012?
and if you think his name will hurt him,
we have a man named Barak Obama as President. |
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the Bushes ,It is time to rebuild, not resurect the same idiotic policys that that got us to this point. Romney ,Rudy and J Bush ,all apples off the same tired old tree . |
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Policy were not bad,
they kept us safe and sound,
It was the Democrates who got us in this mess,
with the economy,
McCain did not do a good job in telling the American people how we got here,
I blame McCains campaign for losing the election,
should of went against the bailout,
if McCain would of,
it would be President elect McCain. |
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Policy were not bad,
they kept us safe and sound,
It was the Democrates who got us in this mess,
with the economy,
McCain did not do a good job in telling the American people how we got here,
I blame McCains campaign for losing the election,
should of went against the bailout,
if McCain would of,
it would be President elect McCain. |
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Why not Governor Jeb Bush,
Bush is Catholic,
a true Christian,
a true conservative,
a great Governor of Florida,
hey maybe Bush/Palin in 2012?
if Obama does a bad job,
who knows.
by the next election people might be saying President Bush was not that bad. |
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I had the honor of meeting Bobby Jindal at a Club for Growth event in 2004 where candidates spoke, afterwards members discussed the candidates and then the staff decided who to allocate money. Bobby Jindal was the star of the day. I have never seen someone speak with such eloquence and knowledge. He spoke without cards and notes. He had such a grasp of healthcare and all the issues. Looking back he reminded me a lot of the Cheney in his debate versus Lieberman debate, where Cheney looked like someone who had looked at all the information and had made a smart decision and Lieberman thought a committee should be formed to look into every issue. Although he was going to easily win his congressional seat, the club after hearing nothing but positive comments from the members decided to give his campaign funds. Since his election to congress and the governor of Louisiana, Bobby Jindal has been outstanding.
2012 is going to be a highly competitive race. I am certain by then Obama will be a sitting duck. If he does what he promises he will be worse than Jimmy Carter. Candidate's work in 2010 will probably pay a huge factor in who the nominee is in 2012. Jindal will be a huge draw but if you are a Republican running for office your first choice to campaign with you and to head a fundraiser will probably be Sarah Palin.
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Yet another Republican damned by a belief in Intelligent Design... |
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keeping the country safe,and we all owe him our gratitude.Domestically he increased the size and scope of goverment "no child left behind" for starters and did nothing to scale back goverment intervention in our lives, I fear we will live to regret the patriot act ,the dems will use it for all sorts of stuff it was never intended for . for example monitering your bank acount. rudy bush and romney are all big gov repubs we need to end this trend now |
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Elect Michael Steele as the RNC Chairman; nominate Bobby Jindle of Louisiana for President and Sarah Palin again for VEEP.
Why? Steele is African-American and can help change the "face" of the GOP and win over many middle and upper-middle income blacks.
Jindle qualifies for the office by two months as his parents are Indian (the country) and came over to the U.S. two months prior to his birth. He will be only 40 years old and will have six years of executive experience.
Palin will still be under 50 years of age, will have four more years of executive experience and will have boned-up on her geography and other political skills in the intermediate period.
Notice what this means: Since slightly over 50% of the population votes on feelings, looks, youth, change and charisma, the GOP would have created the most visible change without having to reference issues and character. There would be NO WHITE MEN in the leadership positions of the GOP. Talk about change!!! This is the major point: The GOP must lock out the WHITE MALE from its top leadership positions. This sends a very strong, powerful point to the country as a whole, but to the Dems especially.
The only thing Obama could do to top that would be to dump Biden in 2012 and select Hispanic-American Richardson as his running mate. |
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I would be thrilled with a Jindal/Palin or a Palin/Jindal ticket in 2012. However, when it comes to RNC chairman I would rather see Ken Blackwell than Michael Steele. |
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Governor Jeb Bush
a Catholic
a true conservative
a true Christian
a great Governor of Florida,
just like Sarah Palin a great Governor of Alaska,
hey you never know,
Bush/Palin in 2012.
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And that includes Jeb Bush. |
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Ken Blackwell would make a fine RNC Chairman, however, Steele's exposure on the national scene is more expansive. Steele is a FOX News Political Analyst and I think that gives him more notoriety since Blackwell is not known too much outside of Ohio and his syndicated columns don't reach too many newspapers around the country. I wish more people were readers of Townhall.com because Blackwell is a brilliant writer and commentator. |
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The Democrat philosophy is what comes out of the north end of a south bound jackass. Terminate the Democratic party and start all over.
I do agree with your assessment of the Republican party. |
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"Huckabee has screwed up one election already and we can't afford to have him spoil any more"
As an evangelical pastor of a Baptist Church (like Huckabee) I can't disagree with you more! He was not "destined" to win but he raised very important issues without sounding "religious." The press made the most out of his background as a pastor and made it front and center that a Huckabee Presidency would "convert" American to a Christian nation. The "mainscream media" wanted to paint the former Governor as a fascist, religious zealot with bigoted ideals and homophobic tenancies. This, of course, is what poisons the minds of many.
I personally hope that Mike does run again but cast his support behind Jindal.
You also said: "Jindal and any other good candidate will need a shot without a pseudo conservative running to peel off the religious right for his own ego."
Huckabee IS NOT a pseudo conservative. Again, that is the pushing of the "Main Scream Media" to have the public see him as anything other than what the GOP wants. The media in general and liberals as a whole will brand anyone with has Christian values (much less one who attends a church regularly) as a Pseudo Conservative. The real Pseudo Conservatives are those who want to hold down taxes while increasing spending and send our troops overseas to fight a war --- UNINVITED!! We call them NEOCONS, like Bill Kristol, Norman Podhoretz and even Dick Chenney. Reagan was a true conservative. He was also religious! But you never hear anyone call him Pseudo Conservative. |
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I meant to say that I personally hope that Mike DOES NOT run again, but rather cast his support behind Jindal." I got lazy in the typing process. |
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Cant stand the broad with the fake family values. Look up Brad Hanson. That's the dude she was having her affair with. Oh, he was also Toddy's business partner. Grandchild being born this month. Congrat's Mrs. er. Miss Palin. Hope the ring bearer is able to walk down the aisle with you. Wink wink. |
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Enough already with personalities and gimmicks.
No to Palin, because she is a woman is not enough, she is not qualified.
No to Jindal because he is a minority, he is not qualified.
If Republicans want to win in 2012, it must be on issues.
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Not based on the comments on this thread. Good luck, Bobby! I wonder how long it will take you to become disallusioned with the GOP. |
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why are there still liberals if it is all about survival of the fittest?
Seriously, you will never be able to prove whatever alternate theory you have to creation.
I have two questions for you:
How is it that evolutionists believe in Random selection and survival of the fittest? makes no sense.
and
b. do animals commit suicide?
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"How is it that evolutionists believe in Random selection and survival of the fittest? makes no sense."
Yes it does. What part don't you understand?
"do animals commit suicide?"
Yes. Lemmings are the cliché example, but suicide has been observed in, for example, the surviving member of a pair of a species in which pair-bonding is strong. |
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Why are there liberals? Good question. Probably beacuse liberals learned to live off conservatives (kind of like they do now). After the conservative men returned from a hunt the liberal men still showed up at the roast after spending a day decorating caves with the women. T |
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I think Jindal will have more of a realistic chance to win in 2016. He will probably be best serve to save his egg basket until then. I think in 2012 the Klan wing of the GOP may not be ready to adopt him as their leader. They may be more open to him in 2016 after consecutive defeats at the hands of Obama.
The GOP will trout out Romney or Palin to take the defeat in 2012.
Keep doing good work until 2016 Bobby! See you then. |
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This would be a fine team, hopefully all the GOP candidates don't trash each other too bad. Depending on the state of the economy we may want to have Romney head the ticket with Jindal as veep. I don't believe anyone could out there in candidate land could be better on the economy. If the economy had went South before the primaries Romney would have dominated and we would have probably won the election. I like having someone with a military background on the ticket, but Romney could have kicked butt on the economic issues. However, Jindal has turned the economy of Louisiana around and has the state in better shape than it has been in a very long time. Jindal will have to be on the ticket in 2012, whether on the top or bottom. |
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All of you J.B. people out there, are you serious? I like the guy too, but there is one thing that will keep him out of the white house-- his last name. W let the spending get too far out of hand, and that is not what the GOP is supposed to represent. He couldn't get through the primaries. Jindal and Palin will be the money raisers, Romney will as well, those will be the big three, the only questions will be, who will be on the top of the ticket and who will be on the bottom. Sorry, but maybe Jeb could win a Senate seat somewhere or get a nice cabinet position under the next GOP President. |
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Jindal performed an exorcism?? Me likey. Tell me more about that. I can only imagine how the liberal illuminati will turn that into the song and dance of the century. |
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but not Palin for VP. I liked Palin a lot. I think she's smart and experienced. Problem is I believe the MSM and the entertainment industry (sometimes same thing) have destroyed her in 2008 and will re-destroy her in 2012. They did their best to make her look stupid and foolish -- most times unfairly. Tina Fey retread impressions will dog her from day 1 of the campaign and the MSM will air or print or blog about how "stupid" and "backward" she is. The rule in politics is: once you're made a laughingstock, it's all over. John Kerry's LS moment may have been when he donned the sterile lab white suit that made him look like a white gay bunny rabbit. Who could take that seriously?
Jindal, on the other hand, defies (or will defy) MSM portrayals of him because the guy is astonshingly glib on just about every topic I've seen him comment on. (and he won't dangle a preposition like I just did!) |
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the lemmings are depressed? Why have not we addressed this epidemic?
Q. What's the difference between magic and evolution?
A. about a million years...
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when an anomaly occurs in Nature it usually is not passed on to the next generation because said animal won't attract mates. That's why, unlike liberal women, the female of the species doesn't find an unemployed, unwashed, effeminate male attractive. Two-headed lions get no play either. |
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Look to South Carolina for the next Prez. Mark Sanford has it right and South Carolina is proof. |
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Funny I thought that was how the creation story went. God conjures man, the earth the stars and the animals out of nothing and then breathes life into them. Although I don't think the Bible is a 100% clear on the order.
But that's all irrelevant.
I don't know much about Jindal and I don't get why everyone waves the reformer flag for every candidate they hope to get elected. But I do know the President-Elect hasn't even taken office yet. Is this really the time to be trying to get back into power? |
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you're ignorant about Christianity and Judaism. No sweat. It's all written down for you to read.
As for Obama I think he'll be a centrist and the only thing he'll try to do is ruin healthcare in his first term. That will be at least 2 years from now though. He might just stick with job elimination by raising taxes.
I agree with you. Jindal is not the immediate answer but in 4 years I think he'll be the guy. |
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Scarlet I think you forgot to add Islam to your list. No worries. It happens to the best of us.
I have no idea who's going to run against Obama in 4 years but I hope he's qualified and the two have a serious discussion on national affairs. |
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Personally, I like the fact the GOP has a lot of
new young faces out there - from Jindal to Palin to Blackburn to Thune. About time.............
He's got 3 years to show us who he is, and build
a team. If he can, great. If not, that's fine too. Palin isn't 100% perfect, and neither is
Bobby or Huck or any of them.
As for the college exorcism he watched and
participated in......it's college. He can
write it off as being a young man, wrought
with fear for his sick friend, etc.
Heck, we just elected man who said he would
calm the seas, part the seas, and had a righteous
wind to his back......come on now.
There are many Ivy League professors who
teach biology and phyics and such, who
are, amazingly, Christians! Who believe in
creation and also the science they study
& teach.
It's common.
Old Biden thought he could get people in
wheelchairs to walk again.
What's the big deal about a little
Exorcist re-enactment.
Charismatic Catholics pray and believe in
that prayer. Jindal does too.
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No one knows exactly what the main issues
will be in 2012.
A year ago, the Iraq War was still supposed
to be the defining topic. It turned out to
be 100% on the economy instead. Who knows what
may have happend if Mitt had managed to run a
decent campaign afterall, and hit his stride
on the economy against Obama. Oh well.........
If the economy improves 1% in 4 years, and the
USA is on stable foreign policy ground (status
quo), Obama wins in a landslide because the
media will paint it as a huge triumphant 4 years.
Will he have any scandals? Defections?
Tell all books about him? Go too far left?
Not far left enough for his base? Foreign
policy ridicule?
Who knows what will the main issue will be
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I could not disagree more. The exit polls in 2004 showed "faith" voters are the ones who put George W. Bush over the top. Gay marriage failed even in California. As for people who vote on the single issue of abortion, pro-life voters always out poll pro-abortion voters. People forget too these "faith" voter are Republican to the core, they support lower taxes, less government, etc.
What do you liberals have against "Intelligent Design?" All is says basically is God played a roll in evolution. I do not see what you liberals find so threatening about the theory. It is not saying evolution is false, just God played a roll as well. What is wrong with saying God played a roll in evolution?
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"What do you liberals have against "Intelligent Design?" All is says basically is God played a roll in evolution."
No it doesn't. In fact, the leading ID proponents deny specifically that they're claiming that it's the christian god doing the designing. It could actually be gigantic jellyfish-like creatures living in the upper atmosphere of Jupiter and using the Io flux tube to manipulate DNA on Earth. Of course, the leading theory is that it's the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
In fact the content of ID -- the written material produced by its believers -- isn't an actual theory at all; it's almost entirely an attempt to attack evolution and promote creationism. This was the finding of the trial in Dover. |
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are! PROVE Sarah Palin had an affair or stop spreading vicious rumors. |
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Is being infinite (without limits)?
Is being eternal (without beginning or end)?
Is eternal being's intellect superior to human beings?
What says you Munck?
Help the ignorant answer those three questions with your knowledge, wisdom and intelligence !!! |
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perhaps you have not been on TH for that long.
Most everyone who visits often knows my2centsplus is deranged. Thus, we mostly just ignore her posts except to set the record straight after one she writes one of her deranged delusions.
Good work on your challenge of her persistent imaginary accusations against Governor Palin.
Anyone notice, earlier in this thread she forgot whether she was posting as 2cents or jane? |
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"Help the ignorant answer those three questions with your knowledge, wisdom and intelligence !!!"
OK. Here we go:
"Is being infinite (without limits)?"
This is a tough one, given that your question doesn't have a subject. What is the thing that is "being eternal?" I'd have to say "no."
"Is being eternal (without beginning or end)?"
Same as above, no subject. This one is "yes."
"Is eternal being's intellect superior to human beings?"
At last, a question that's actually about something. An amoeba is an eternal being; it doesn't die, just divides again and again. Its intellect is definitely NOT superior to a human's. There's no reason to believe that any other eternal critter would have a superior intellect; long life has nothing to do with intelligence. Turtles and parrots live much longer than humans; Sequoia sempervirens lives longer than they do. |
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The National Enquirer said that an affair took place with Brad Hanson, but offered no real proof, just lies and enuendos. John McCain’s campaign has threatened legal action over the ‘vicious lie’.
The magazine quoted convicted thief Jim Burdett, a relative of Hanson’s wife, who said the affair had taken place, but he is a known liar and had an unsettled vendetta with Todd Palin.
Hanson himself has said: “I never had an affair of any kind with Sarah Palin. Todd and I are friends.”
The story has reportedly been spread by Palin’s political rivals and no concrete eveidnce was ever put forth to support any of it.
McCain senior advisor Steve Schmidt said: “The smearing of the Palins must end.”
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I began to read some posts last week, but was hesitant to post myself. These three are trail runs. thanks for your info. on 2 cents, or Jane. But why does her post say my2centsworth is she's 2 cents or Jane? |
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1. If you are so smart, why do you have such a problem identifying nouns in a sentence? "Being" is a noun and thus the subject of the first two questions you were asked by eddie. I thought that was pretty obvious. I think you did, too, but responded the way you did because you were unable to answer the questions.
2. Why is there NO proof of any transition from one species to another? Why are there NO transitional fossils that show a gradual change from less-evolved species A to more-evolved species B? Why do you confuse natural selection within a species with evolution? Why does the fossil record show a huge increase in plant life, all at the same time? |
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'"Being" is a noun and thus the subject of the first two questions you were asked by eddie. I thought that was pretty obvious. I think you did, too'
No, that didn't occur to me, and I still don't think that was his intention. If he meant it that way, he would have had an article: "a being" or "the being," or an even more complete explanation of what being he was talking about. "Is being" is an obvious verb phrase.
"2. Why is there NO proof of any transition from one species to another?"
Science doesn't do proofs. There are, however, a great many examples of transition from one species to another, including contemporary transitions that were actually witnessed by the scientists making the observation. The continued insistence by creationists that speciation has never been observed is getting a bit silly in light of the numerous counter-examples.
"Why are there NO transitional fossils that show a gradual change from less-evolved species A to more-evolved species B?"
There are a great many such.
"Why do you confuse natural selection within a species with evolution?"
I don't believe that I confuse them. The process of evolution is driven by natural selection; that was Darwin's basic thesis in "The Origin of Species." He was contrasting it with artificial selection, selective breeding of animals for particular traits by humans.
"Why does the fossil record show a huge increase in plant life, all at the same time?"
You'll have to be more specific. Are you talking about the Cretaceous Period? It was characterized by both a conducive climate and the emergence of flowering plants (through natural selection), an extremely successful form. |
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She uses more than one name.
Another one she used to use is Qweenmumof7.
Why? I do not know. She is often very irrational and almost always hateful. |
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Another religious nutcase in the White House, that's all we need, more bigotry courtesy of someone's subjective derivations of life, morals and values imposing it on the rest of the world and this nation.
Republicans can't do any better than this?
What a sad party we've turned into when de-volving becomes your goal instead of evolving. |
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What do all things have in common? Existence (used as a synonym for my previous use of being).
Yet no finite creature exists in itself. All are brought into existence and the existence of all have an end.
What limits existence, since you think existence is not infinite than it must be limited by something?
After an amoeba divides do you still only have one amoeba? Of course not, you have two and of course all amoeba's end or they would eventually overwhelm every other finite being.
Why do you think eternal and infinite existence is inferior to you?
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This is the winning ticket for 2012. Huckabee lost his bid as a nominee because he played too much into the christian thing. Jindhal is a good answer to Obama's dark genes, and Huckabee keeps the south/conservative whitemen (who make the GOP) happy. The country will not elect two minorities consecutively. If we want Jindhal to be president he needs to run against Hussein in 2012.
Biden is no longer needed by Hussein. When Hussein is done with someone, he disposes of him or her as evidenced by uncle wright who became'the guy I don't know very well' when he proved to be a liability. Hillary is S of State so that she can run as VP to ensure an Obama re-election in 2012. The only ticket that can beat them is jindhal/Huckabee. Hillary will run as VP of Hussein and if re-elected, run for POTUS with all the foreign experience one needs. She is on track for getting that 'executive and foreign experience' lacking on her resume. As secretary of state, we will see a lot of her on tv representing our 'nation' and this will give her the credibility she lacked in 2008. She will also tap into Hussein's foreign funds when campaigning for his re-election as VP and this will help her with grassroot organization for 2016. Comrades - prepare Jindhal/Huckabee for 2012. After that, the country won't elect two minorities consecutively. |
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The noun is "being". Look it up. He did not mean "a being" or "the being".
"there are great many examples"..."there are a great many such"
Okay, show me one. Continuing to say there is a great many examples proves nothing. Provide a link to a scholarly site that shows extensive fossil proof of a gradual change from one species to another. Don't show me ONE fossil that shows a mutation. If evolution is true, and the process takes thousands or millions of years, there should be an extensive fossil record showing at least one of these transitions. |
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get a clue:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zi8FfMBYCkk
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Ken Miller is a big ol' catholic/christian who is a scientist and gets it about his conflation of science and religion.
it's the religious who don't get science not science that doesn't get religion |
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talking about evolution and it's not being "true" is about as useful as liberals thinking they understand economics |
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Bobby Jindal is little more than an affirmative action hire -- the "best" nonwhite, as it were. We tried that strategy back in 2004 with another highly-educated hardcore Catholic nonwhite: Alan Keyes in the U.S. Senate race in Illinois. His opponent: Barack Obama. The margin of victory? Obama 70%-Keyes 27%.
Jindal is not just too young. He's a transparent attempt by our side to show the Left how "enlightened" we are. Forget it. We will never out-Left the Left. As for Sarah Palin, she's a shrill, pop-up insta-celebrity with sawdust for a brain. We need to look elsewhere. |
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scooter, you think that Christians are crazy. Every post that you make, every entry in your blog points to that fact.
But, this "Christian" agrees with you and all of sudden he is the ultimate authority? |
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Jindhal is a rhode scholar, not affirmative action guy for hire. He has actual achievements from oxford where they do not practice affirmative action like our Ivy League Universities. Jindhal is also one who has earned his place based on good ideas, not pushed through by a chicago machine. Jindhal will be glad to allow citizens to see his transcripts and not 'hide' them like Hussein. Most of all, we do need a sense of diversity and youth in the GOP. The older white guy won't cut it with the new demographic of voters. Jindhal offers both and he is definitely not an affirmative action product - his parents were married and well educated and have stayed married. He is well educated and accomplished and we would be privileged to have him lead our party against Hussein - the true affirmative action candidate with citizenship issues and funded by foreigners. |
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Lived 44 years in Chicago and now 4 in New Orleans...if that scum Chicago thug Obama can win an election..considering his Communist upbringing and pathetic associations..believe me Jindal can win too. |
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I agree with your post.
I would further say that if Republicans would get off their religious soapbox, extend to the American public that they want to find solutions to these issues which divided them previously like gays and abortions whereby they let their god figure it out and instead they work toward educating women better about alternatives; offer equal rights to all humans in our nation by getting marrige out of government, along with religion - they would exponentially increase their base.
Why?
Because the generations coming up are getting it that these are not the issues that ALL AMERICANS are having problems with but the religious won't stop trying to impose morals and values, when Reps ought to be advocating freedom, choice and government out of our lives more and more.
Free markets
Free choice
More education about life alternatives & options
Government out of marriage to equalize it
Government stop paying for abortions to equalize it
Religion out of government totally
Do this and your party slams it home.
Otherwise, Reps become the fossil that no one wants to see or touch as life is evolving; ideas are evolving; humanity is evolving.
Get a clue or get left behind, you and your child. |
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"this christian" meaning Miller - IS A SCIENTIST
Do you even know what that means?
Do you know that science seeks to falsify itself - it seeks its own mistakes toward self-correction in any way possible in order to stay on track - it looks for where it is wrong.
"science is enormously self-critical"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9a-lFn4hqY&feature=related
Religion never thinks its wrong; bases everything on subjective projection with no empirical evidence having lived in an empirical world.
Don't believe that, look around you at all the forms of energy re-amassed into various objects, people, plants, animals, et.al.
Where did we figure out energy & matter?
Oh, that's right - SCIENCE FIGURED IT OUT
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In the face of empirical evidence and science, for you to "believe" in something is no different than BO's supporters "believing" in him in the face of all the evidence to the contrary.
You look in the mirror when you are angry at the left because they look and act like you so very often.
Conservatives have been better at self-correction, but you wouldn't know it from some of the brainiacs on this site or in the conservative media.
Talking about a god is like talking about Santa Claus; neither is real both are imaginary - the only difference: what you CHOOSE to believe.
If it's a choice to believe then stop imposing it on everyone and your government; if it's not a choice then you would have solid evidence proving such.
Do I know what the "first cause" was?
No I do not and neither do you, nor does it matter with regard to how one lives his or her life.
If you're a person who would do a good deed, it's in spite of religion, not because of it.
If you do good BECAUSE of religion or god, then you're just admitting how much of a fraud you are - "grovel in submission to feed your own ambition" toward heaven and god's favor upon you.
If you can't conjur up enough humanity towards others to do good by them, it would do society well to stay clear of sociopaths who act in life without conscience.
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"Yet no finite creature exists in itself. All are brought into existence and the existence of all have an end.
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Why do you think eternal and infinite existence is inferior to you?"
I'm sorry, but this is just gibberish. You may think you're saying something profound, but it's simply verbal diarrhea. When you learn to express yourself clearly and in proper English, come back and try again. |
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"Okay, show me one."
Go read Ken Miller's "Only a Theory." I'm not interested in yet another game of whack-a-mole with a creationist. |
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you sound as though you think I should apologize for offending your overwhelming intelligence.
Too bad you have such a problem communicating with us lower level intelligences.
What does it mean that you are unable to understand my "gibberish"?
To some of us, it speaks volumes about you. Maybe you are ashamed of your lack of comprehension or maybe you are just too lazy to
learn from those you consider inferior.
I realize that this is probably more "gibberish" to you oh exalted one. It is sad you are unable to participate in so much of human life!!!! |
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however, I do find it amusing that you think an amoeba is immortal.
I will have to share the joy of your profundity with my fellow morons.
Hey did you hear about the guy who thought amoebas never die? No, no, there really is someone who believes that.
He does not understand that finite creatures come into existence and their existences end. He thinks such words are gibberish. He is so superior he is unable to communicate why he believes such things even in the face of birth and death. Yet he calls others writers of gibberish.
Hey Munck, do you think everyone is as confused as your are by my writing?
Do you think your credibility as an offeror of opinions has suffered from your acknowledged inability to understand simple english?
Gee, Munck, are you exhausted from your efforts to understand or just frightened? |
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"you sound as though you think I should apologize for offending your overwhelming intelligence."
No, no, that's ok. No apology necessary. It's possible you simply have a learning disability, or were homeschooled. Not your fault.
"Too bad you have such a problem communicating with us lower level intelligences."
I seem to have conveyed my meaning quite clearly to you. |
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"you think an amoeba is immortal.
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the guy who thought amoebas never die?"
I didn't say either of those things. Your problems with language seem to be getting in your way again. |
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Governors Palin and Jindal should come out at the beginning of the next presidential campaign season and proclaim they are ONE TICKET. Whichever one of them is ahead in the popular vote after the primary is the top of the ticket and the other is VP. Together, they'd be unbeatable, especially after Obama and the Democrats have made a mess, which they will. Obama is just rearranging their titles and offices, nothing has changed. Congress still has the lowest approval ever recorded in American history, ever.
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here is a quote of yours, "...An amoeba is an eternal being..."
It is almost pointless to engage you in discussion since you cannot even remember your own writings and yet you call others' writings gibberish!!!
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nothing personal, but very little of what you write is reasonable. A great deal of what you write exposes your ignorances. Your apparent conceit is most likely clouding your comprehension and is preventing you from progressing. Rather than engage in discussion you reduce everyone to being ignorant and without your, in your own mind, vast intelligence.
Too bad you have stopped growing. We lose nothing from your determination to remain mired in your ignorance. I suggest you overcome your fears and open your mind to the possibility that you know very little of reality and that what you do know is misplaced in an irrational frame of reference.
I am grateful for how you have revealed yourself this evening as it will save me and maybe others who read and write here a great deal of time. |
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Mr. Munck, I have a couple things to ask you. Are you atheist? If you are,you do not believe in an afterlife. I am Christian and believe in an afterlife. If you are right, we both come to the same end. If I am right you lose everything you could have had as a believer, which is eternal life. Also I will not debate you, so please dont question my intelligence. Thank you |
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"Are you atheist?"
Yep.
"If you are,you do not believe in an afterlife."
Right.
"I am Christian and believe in an afterlife."
OK. So does nearly everybody I know.
"If you are right, we both come to the same end. If I am right you lose everything you could have had as a believer"
I'm sufficiently certain of my position that I don't see that as a risk. I'm not sure what you're suggesting in any case; should I pretend to believe?
What you've outlined here, of course, is approximately Pascal's Wager. I'd point out that you are taking the same risk, in that you may not have chosen the right god. What if, for example, the Presbyterians were right all along, you went with the Baptists, and the Presbyterian god is a sufficiently jealous god that he won't accept Baptists? Should you attempt to cover all the bases, hit all the churches in town? What if, heaven forfend, the Scientologists got it right? Or the Muslims? |
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WAKE UP GOP! GET ON THIS ASAP!!! IT'S NOT TOO LATE.
Hey folks, don't you think it's a little presumptuous to argue about Obama's policies, when he's not even a natural born US citizen? Ergo, he doesn't meet one of the three basic qualifications for the presidency. HE WAS BORN IN KENYA AND ALL HE'S SHOWN US IS A FAKE BIRTH CERTIFICATE!
DEMAND OBAMA PROVE HE'S A NATURAL U.S. BORN CITIZEN - SIGN THE PETITION: if you've already signed it, email this link to a friend AND YOUR CHURCH. You can even type a letter and fax and they will send it for you here:
http://moniquemonicat.wordpress.com/2008/11/09/%E2%80%A2-si gn-obama-petition/
PROOF OBAMA WAS BORN IN KENYA!
SEE THE FAKE BIRTH CERTIFICATE FOR YOURSELF HERE:
http://moniquemonicat.wordpress.com/obama-proof-he-was-born -in-kenya-fake-birth-certificate/
Obama wouldn’t have forged his birth certificate for any other purpose than the fact he doesn’t have a legitimate one to show the public. |
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Bob Munck writes:
"He's a CREATIONIST! Do you really want to go down that Stupid Party path yet again? "
Since when does it say in the Constitution that only an atheist can run for POTUS?
Remember it is freedom OF religion not freedom FROM religion.
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There is nothing funnier (in a pathetic way) than atheists who are so sure of themselves. They are so smug and love to throw around terms such as “extreme” and “fringe” when the truth is they are in the “extreme” minority “fringe.” Like gays, atheists are a loud vocal minority that gets far too much press and attention than they deserve considering their size is in the mid to low single digits as a percent of the population. |
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not to mention, they are incapable of using sound reason which makes dialogue with them impossible. Furthermore, their lack of sound reason makes any assertions from them suspect. |
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You are absolutely right. They basically say - there is no God because I say so! Then they try to force their extreme minority fringe position on the over 90% of the population who disagree with them. Then they try to stop high school prayer groups, try to removes "in God we trust" off our currency, they do not want children to say "one nation under God" in the pledge allegiance and they freak out if anyone says God played a role in the creation of life as we know it.
As I said before, like gays, atheists are a loud vocal minority who want the other over 90% of the population to bow to their thoughts and lifestyle.
What really upsets me is how atheists/liberals have succeeded in telling people the Constitution say separation of church and state when it really says "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof." The ACLU is basically violating the constitution when they attack a high school prayer group or bible study group who are attempting to use their right of “free exercise” of their religion.
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modern science was founded by Christians and Jews or did not you know that? Whence do you think American education came? We Christians believe in science. You secularists are the ones who don't know when Life begins; that the weather goes in cycles, and are afraid of nuclear power. You don't understand the uselessness of embryonic stem cell research in reagards to curing cells. You don't understand that evolution is mathematically and practically impossible. |
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you're the one who brought up the bible so I left Islam out of it.
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Good point on "embryonic" stem cells. Liberals always fail to differentiate between "adult" and "embryonic" stem cells. All medical break through have been with "adult" stem cells. Not to mention if there was any promise with "embryonic" stem cells venture capital money would be flowing into that sector. If the government gave tax payer money for “embryonic” stem cell research it would be a bigger waste than bailing out the auto companies. Currently most "embryonic" stem cell companies that are publicly traded are practically penny stocks.
I am not going to search for the answer myself - why can Muslims never be astronauts?
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pray to the East five times per day
towards Mecca... |
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"Since when does it say in the Constitution that only an atheist can run for POTUS?"
When has an atheist even been a candidate for POTUS, at least for a major party? "Creationist" and "atheist" aren't the only two possibilities; I doubt that we've ever had a creationist president.
"btw- do you know why Muslems can never be astronauts?"
A devout Muslim from Malaysia was on the ISS last year, during Ramadan no less. A Saudi prince went up in the Shuttle back in 1985, and an Iranian was a space tourist on the Station two years ago. |
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just curious. how devout can they be? |
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you're going to use a Saudi Prince as an example of a devout muslem? That's like saying Pelosi's a devout Catholic. |
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do not confuse munck with the use of reason. |
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"you're going to use a Saudi Prince as an example of a devout muslem?"
No.
"how did he pray to the east in space?
just curious. how devout can they be?"
They don't pray "to the east," they pray toward Mecca. Islam is apparently quite lenient for contingency circumstances like that. The guy who went up to ISS last year, described by the reports as "devout," was given a booklet titled ‘A Guideline of Performing Ibadah (worship) at the International Space Station’ by some Islam authority.
So how does a devout jew or christian live a proper life in space? When is the Sabbath if you're on the Moon or Mars? When is sunset if you're in a 90-minute orbit or somewhere outside the Earth's shadow? |
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can live and pray anywhere, bob. Isn't that interesting? |
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"a Christian can live and pray anywhere, bob."
Suppose a christian astronaut has been traveling for some number of months at .95C, such that the relativistic time slip between him and the Earth has become both substantial and impossible to measure exactly. He is commanded:
"Remember the Sabbath day and keep it holy. ... But the seventh day is a Sabbath to the Lord your God; you shall not do any work"
When exactly is this Sabbath? He doesn't know what time it is back on Earth. For how long does he observe the Sabbath? Time is passing significantly slower for him than it is in the Holy Land. |
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but you don't know Christianity or Judaism. Did Job or Abraham have a bible?
Worldly things do not matter and a Christian's life is not trapped by anything like Time or geography. |
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You do not need 'Liberal Media' to bring down Jindal.
Leave it the Religious fanatic Republican like Huckabee.
Just like he wrote some stupid article questioning Romney's faith, whether he is a real hunter etc. Rightwing nutgobs who are the majority in the Republican Party will buy in to that and Jindal will never make it out of the Primary.
http://www.reuters.com/article/lifestyleMolt/idUSN121027752 0071213
Mitt Romney and Bobby Jindal are intellectuals.
GOP never likes intellectuals. Rather they love dimwits like Palin, Huckabee and W.
My guess is the Jindal will try in 2012 and meet the same fate as Mitt.
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Where is the article Governor Huckabee wrote questioning Governor Romney's faith? I have never seen it.
If it does not exist, we would all be much better off without your posting scurrilous lies!!
TD2008 cannot or will not support his deliberately scurrilous accusations. |
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maybe it is candidates' supporters who practice character assassination that turn voters off to the candidates.
Maybe in fact, it is people like you who are the reason candidates like Governor Romney lose. |
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"Worldly things do not matter and a Christian's life is not trapped by anything like Time or geography."
The bible devotes an entire Commandment, ten percent of its total, to remembering the Sabbath and keeping it holy; it must be very, very important.
"Did Job or Abraham have a bible?"
No, they were given direct verbal instructions.
Can't answer any of my questions about christian or jewish astronauts, huh? Yet you were quite willing to declare that Muslims can't be astronauts, based on your own ignorance of Islam. |
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Since when do atheists "force" their lifestyle (what lifestyle?) on others? I've known none of this sort. A skeptic, which I am, is not an atheist. Look up the difference.
The Constitution, I might add, gives me freedom of religion -- and freedom from religion. They're flip sides of the same coin. I have every right to refuse a church's demand that I join or remain with them. The government stands by that right to say "no" as well as "yes." |
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"Since when do atheists "force" their lifestyle (what lifestyle?) on others?"
Hmmm let me see - when you demand Christmas trees be taken down in government buildings. When you demand nativity scenes are removed from public parks. When you demand a judge take off his wall a copy of the Ten Commandments. When you demand cites that have a cross in their logo remove it. When you forbid a bunch of high school kids from holding hands a saying a prayer every morning on school grounds. When you demand the pledge allegiance not be said because it says "one nation under god.” When you oppose vouchers for religious schools. When you demand “in God we trust” be taken off currency.
And the list goes on and on!
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"when you demand Christmas trees be taken down in government buildings. ... public parks ... a judge ... cites ... school grounds ... pledge [of] allegiance ... vouchers for religious schools ... currency."
Those are all examples of demanding that the government obey the U.S. Constitution. If the government does then obey the Constitution, then it is the agency that's effecting your lifestyle. Blame the writers of the Constitution. |
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the answer doesn't mean the answer is wrong. I'm a Christian and I don't need a Church, or practices, or special days or clothing to live. This is one of the things about Christians that you don't get. We're still Christians no matter where we are. Christians are not bound by Jewish law so we don't have to keep the Sabbath although we are required to go and hear the Word. |
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are lemmings depressed? if so, what would cause mass psychological depression like that? Do they have low self-esteem. Have they been reading Sylvia Plath?
why are there still liberals?
what happens to abberations in Nature?
Explain the Cambrium explosion. |
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The constitution says "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof" - not one of those examples is the there a "law respecting an establishment of religion" or an attempt to do so. However there is clearly an attempt by atheists to "prohibiting the free exercise thereof." |
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"I'm a Christian and I don't need a Church, or practices, or special days or clothing to live."
That's true of Muslims too, of course.
"we don't have to keep the Sabbath although we are required to go and hear the Word."
I don't know, a lot of christians are quite pushy about making sure that OTHER PEOPLE keep the Sabbath. That's why we have blue laws all over the country, liquor stores closed on Sunday, etc.
How do you "go and hear the Word" if you're on a spaceship a light-year away? |
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still trying to reason with munck I see. Good luck!
Trying reason with any atheist is likely to be unfruitful for any purposes other than frustration and resentment on both sides. |
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bob's alright. I'm enjoying this. Secularists and atheists hate it that we know all about them but they know little about us except what they've learned from Bill Maher. |
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I'll hear the Word when and if I get back from the mission. Or if I'm with another Christian we can talk to each other. I am not required to hear it any specific amount of time or even on a daily basis or in a certain place. Hearing the Word builds faith - that's why it is a good idea. "required" is too strong a word. I should have said we are urged to hear the Word. |
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"but they know little about us"
Nah, I put in the pew time. Sunday school, church camp, bible studies, prez of my youth fellowship. Also a fair number of quite demanding courses in college, friends who are Jesuits, family members who are priests and ministers, etc. I'm actually coauthor of a published paper in a comparative religions professional journal (on the Pauline Epistles). |
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"are lemmings depressed?"
Haven't you ever been to Norway? EVERYBODY'S depressed. Think of Norwegian Blue parrots, pining for the fjords.
"why are there still liberals?"
To keep civilization from reverting to caves and stone axes.
"what happens to abberations in Nature?"
I'm not sure what an "abberation" is. If you mean mutation, some survive, most don't, some few prosper, reproduce, and spread.
"Explain the Cambrium explosion."
Sorry, I wasn't there. |
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why are you acting so ignorant when you already know what's what;)?
that's true about Norway.
and I actually think liberals are quite useful. We need good literature, music, plays, poetry and cooking. Unfortunately, art in the last 80 plus years kinda stinks.
Cheers.
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He is extremely intelligent, inquisitive, and pragmatic. He actually comes up with solutions to problems. Whether he will weather his service in Louisiana is still a question. Louisiana has a history of corruption that goes back to its initial population prior to becoming a state. If anyone can solve the problems of Louisiana, it will be Jindal. Louisiana needs him and if he turns that state around, the USA governance will be duck soup. |
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do we continue to allow the socially liberal(LGBT)Republicans to undermine the core values of the GOP? The answer is clearly no, yet we still have the diehard Rockefeller Republicans shilling for the LGBT Republican attorneys (Romney, Thompson,Giuliani). The 2008 POTUS was lost because the liberal RNC and RSCC controlled the purse and thought it best to present the GOP as Liberal or Socialist Lite. How many elections have the Republicans lost recently when foolishly acquiescing to the desires of the moderate to liberal Republicans? Either change the current guard of the RNC and RSCC or we'll still have the continued progression toward cultural, if not economic socialism. Need you be reminded that the Eurofreaks, excuse me, socialists in Sweden recently normalized transvestitism and sadomasochism without replicable, empirical data?
I know the reality is that two social conservatives will not be elected to the Presidency until the socially liberal(LGBT) members of the APA(s) and the ABA are forced to provide replicable, empirical data to support their positions originating out of the fraudulent and fallacious research of Alfred Kinsey and subsequently, Evelyn Hooker. A fiasco, such as the 2008 POTUS, can be avoided if Jindal is the Republican Nominee to the 2012 POTUS and a social liberal aka "moderate" is nominated as the VP. Otherwise, look for a repeat of 2008, and so on. |
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