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if anyone has the right to be offended it is http://www.votevets.org.
they have walked the walk and draft dodger rush has not.
general batiste also was offended. |
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called ANY SOLDIER OR VET a 'phony soldier' except those like Jesse Macbeth(whom Rush mentioned BY NAME) and Scott Beauchamp(also by name).
Either this vet is intentionally telling lies about what Rush actually said- (I know I was listening to the whole 3 hours LIVE and I know EXACTLY WHAT RUSH SAID)or he is being fed lies by the left and those liars at Media Matters and thinks that he is being told the truth.
By the way- though Rush did not say it I think Senator Harkin deserves the 'phony soldier' title, for lying about his service as well. (michellemalkin.com) |
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lol
you guys are literally scared to face the truth.
look up the transcript.
so you say all those miltary who are offended did nto read the transcript..
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As I SAID...can y'all not read either? I LISTENED LIVE TO THE WHOLE SHOW!
Rush was talking about soldiers WHO LIE ABOUT their own experience IN ORDER TO SLANDER THE MILITARY! AND the Lefty's who LOVE THEM!! |
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you are scared to look up the transcript.
you will find out the truth.
http://www.votevets.org which for some unexplainable reason won't go through here at townhall (censorship?) is made up of veterans of the iraq and afghanistan war.
they have more of right to be offended than anyone else and if you doubt that you are nothing but a military basher. |
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The left never met a lie they didn't like....
Do you think Congress doesn't know that this is all a pile of manure....? ...and yet they persist. Why? Because they know that most lefties are uninformed, willing to buy into whatever some other lefty says is true....That's where their truth comes from.
20 years from now, they'll still be talking about how Rush said soldiers were phony.
Amazing, apalling, disgusting. |
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It is truly sad that the Libs will trumpet a lie for political gain. I am a Soldier. I have both read the transcript and actually heard the audio from the show. Rush was SPECIFICALLY talking about Soldiers who lie about their record to talk against the military and support terrorist. Twist it any way you want to lins, it's still a LIE. |
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...that this group and the Democratic politicians appear to be taking sides with the Jesse McBeths of America. Why would they side with a phony soldier who makes up phony stories about receiving Purple Heart medals and that our honorable troops are murdering innocent Iraqis.
Why would they link themselves with this dishonorable people who lie about military service and make up grotesque stories of murder and rape? |
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Limbaugh is doing everything he can to remove his foot from his mouth right now. I hope he keeps this up. The more folks learn about Limbaugh, the less influence he'll have with the ill informed. Rush is still bellowing about Reid. I think James Webb should show up and have a chat with chief dittohead. |
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What part of ALL OF THIS IS A LIE don't you understand? |
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...those commercials in the 90's where Charlton Heston would speak directly to Clinton and say "Mr. President, when you say something and you KNOW it's not true....that's a lie.....remember?"
We need a guy like that..... |
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none of you have read the transcipt put out by rushes own people which clearly and unequivocally proves he called any anti-war military a phony.
you would rather live in a delusional world of spin.
general batiste and other military veterans were offended.
are they liars or are you just continuing to trash the military members who do not agree with you.
disgusting and shameful when partisanship clouds your judgement to the point that the truth becomes a lie.
shame on conservatives who have not read the transcript but say it is a lie. |
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I will refer you to the question that I asked Ryan01 earlier... |
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The part you keep telling.
Actually, I do understand why you keep doing it. It's hard to admit you are wrong when you are so emotionally invested in someone like Limbaugh who views you in the words of G. Gordon Liddy, "ye suckers" when he was refering to the Clinton defenders. He's got you conned.
I noted this elsewhere, but I'll repeat it here for you. I heard the actually broadcast and it is obvious that Limbaugh was talking about the previous caller, not Jesse McBride.
When it comes to people like Rush, he only "supports the troops" when they are being used as gendarmes for some transnational corporation or for the benefit of the Israel First lobby.
This transcript MMA put up is accurate when it comes to Limbaugh's comments.
http://mediamatters.org/items/200709270010?f=h_top
Read it and weep. |
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Either way, it doesn't sound good. Either Rush was saying that any soldier who spoke out publically against the war was a "phoney soldier", or the only soldiers he had heard speaking out were actual phoney soldiers. So Rush is either a hypocritical A-hole who insulted at least a significant minority of the troops, or he's just lazy and only reads the anti-war articles that he knows are invalid.
And even if his explanation is valid, it avoids the question. If Rush was talking about the real phoney soldiers, does that mean that real soldiers who are against the war are OK in Rush's book? If so, he would do himself a big favor by saying it. Does anybody know if he's clarified his position on this? If he hasn't, then that silence would appear to speak volumes. |
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I read the transcript. I also LISTENED. There is a little thing called "inflection" that you don't get from a transcript. If all the libs would LISTEN to the transcript, and then try to tell me that Rush slurred the troops, I would know beyond a doubt that I could never trust a single word they said about anything, ever.....
It's just not there....no matter how bad you want it to be true..... |
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Limbaugh said a short time ago that while he thought the former soldier featured in that Vote Vets ad served honorably, he was being used by Vote Vets. To which I reply if that is the actual case, then it is no different than what neocons like Rush has been doing. I'll take it a step further. People like Rush use the troops as human shields to help gain protection for otherwise indefensible positions.
Limbaugh tries to dimiss Vote Vets as a collection of "liberals" and I know there are some. There are also people like MG John Batiste who belong as well. Limbaugh has yet to comment on what he said about this. |
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1- Caller 1(Mike in Chicago) is so much of seminar caller it's insane. Seminar callers are always life-long Republicans and longtime listeners. And right at the end(this is the big one), Caller 1 finally states he used to be in the military. People can believe what they want, but Caller 1(Mike in Chicago) is not a Republican and it's doubtful he was in the military.
2- Why didn't MMA put in the next part about Jesse McBribe? Limbaugh went into the McBride/phoney soldier stuff in the next segment.
3-If Limbaugh was referring the previous caller as a phoney soldier, he'd have been right since the guy is an obvious seminar caller.
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You apparently do not know what a "neocon" is. I suggest you consult with others of your ilk and learn the derogatory vocabulary before you attempt to use it in the field..... |
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...my fellow conservatives, also know as THINKIN' HUMAN BEINGS- ever feel like you fell through Alice's lookin' glass and ended up where nothin' makes sense?!
By God- these libs tell not to believe what we KNOW is TRUE. Forget what we HEARD on air. And instead allow Media Matters, Harry Reid, et al. tell us what RUSH REALLY MEANT???!!! Are You Kiddin' Me!!!
I CANNOT BELIEVE WHAT THESE LIARS GET AWAY WITH!!
YES- I know that I'm yelling- I can't help it. |
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to interpret this.
CALLER 2: No, it's not, and what's really funny is, they never talk to real soldiers. They like to pull these soldiers that come up out of the blue and talk to the media.
LIMBAUGH: The phony soldiers.
CALLER 2: The phony soldiers. If you talk to a real soldier, they are proud to serve. They want to be over in Iraq. They understand their sacrifice, and they're willing to sacrifice for their country.
by the way here it the conservative anti-war website to prove rush even lies about that.
http://www.antiwar.com/mcconnell/mc-col.html
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... proved that Rush said the words'phony soldiers'.
And you MAYBE proved that CALLER 2 THINKS that real soldiers are proud to serve! |
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To paraphrase YOU: shame one lefties who will not listen but say it's true.
I can make anybody sound bad by quoting them. So can you. That game has been played for years. It's a cheap political trick.
It's hard to believe that liberals have any self-respect at all..... |
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to believe in your spin world but iraqi veterans and general batiste were offended and that is the bottom line.
all else is spin and justification.
rush offended veterans who do not agree with this war and that cannot be denied. |
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...is lost, the nuclear issue is settled, and the debate on global warming is closed.
Whatever you say religious..... |
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lol
what is amusing is of all people rush and his defenders have to use the clinton defense.
the meaning of is is?
the meaning of phony soldiers is?
how does it feel to be sleeping with bill clinton. |
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Of course I know what a neocon is. Rush is the poster boy of the neocons. You, on the other hand, to paraphase Limbaugh on Hannity years ago, are "a junior neocon in training." You keep listening to Rush and before you know it you too, can have what little mush you originally had in your skull totally replaced with Limbaughian pig manure. There really isn't any difference in style between you and the Clinton defenders. All of you are fanatics.
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I love it! At the top of the hour Rush was using sound bites from "liberals" in an attempt to disengage from this.
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At this point we will have to agree to disagree. You go on believing the Harry Reid, Media Matters lies and the rest of us will go on believing the truth. Have a great day... |
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You tell me.
If you can say you listened to the show and still think he smeared the soldiers, that's fine. Until then, there's no point in talking..... |
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...red menace please tell Ryan what a neocon is.....he still doesn't know....the poor young twit.
I don't listen to Rush, but in this case, as someone who can think for himself is prone to do, I investigated the claims before expressing my opinion as I always do.
I wish lefties would do that, but then there would be nothing for them to whine about....
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I reckon you're right about agreeing to disagree. You have a good day as well. |
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It would be racist, had not the leftist L.A. Times not coined the phrase.
Since Rush knows it's ok for lefties to say that....he took it to the hilt.
If he had said it first, however, then it would be racist...by all means. |
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John Konop come here to simply push his own blog-site. All he does is link his site.
BTW-the John Konop post above is a cut/paste from the other Rush posting. |
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the entire exchange was played endlessly over the weekend and so i have heard it and read the transcript.
we also can agree to disagree but i continue to point out that many brave veterans who served in iraq and afghanistan listened and were offended and that is the bottom line.
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About time someone held the rotund drug-addled draft-dodger accountable for his hateful speech. |
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We can agree to disagree.
As for the troops, if they think Rush said what everyone is SAYING he said, I don't blame them for getting upset.
There truly are more important things to worry about..... I'm sure we can agree on that too. |
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Soothsayer demonstrates that he's a compassionate man of peace.
If only he were this angry at...Islamic Jihadists !
Ha, ha, ha. |
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....irony in Sooths post. Using hateful speech to chastise someone for hateful speech....interesting, no? |
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It's hard to imagine anyone "attacking" Rush. When you're as controversial and loudmouthed as Limbaugh, you pretty much get what you deserve - and he deserves to be fired for his disregard of our soldiers and their positions on this war.
Heh. As if Rush had feelings. His utter dismissal of anyone else's sensibilities leaves him open to ridicule and criticism. The big overstuffed baby.
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By the way, "truth" is a defense for slander. :) |
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I'm aware of that. Now that Murtha is being sued by an exonerated soldier, do you suppose he is aware of that too.....? |
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Its so very satisfying knowing how Rush gets to you lefties. I can almost hear the weeping, wailing and gnashing of teeth. It's music to my ears. |
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Misdirection? I think you're better than that.
Back on topic: Retired 4-Star General Wesley Clark thinks Rush should be off Armed Forces Radio. Now THATS what I call supporting the troops! |
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...in the opinion of an ACTIVE general, and not a liberal Democrat former presidential candidate.
You lefties are using this lie for all it's worth, but it's gonna backfire, I'm telling you right now.....
When Petraeus, or even Pace says that, I will listen. These are men for whom I have respect, unlike Mr. Clark.
Murtha is not a misdirection, by the way. The whole world heard him call INNOCENT troops murderers. No word twisting, no transcript cherry picking....
Why are you red menace not on HIS case....? |
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SGRivette
I push the truth! |
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first of all am i mistaken or did rush say soldiers plural indicating more than one or not.
second, he has doctored his own transcript to eliminate one and half minutes, this was widely reported today and most news broadcasts ran the orginal and the new transcript side by side so you see the difference.
they also eliminated his "phony soldiers" comment on the broadcast to armed forces radio.
i wonder why they did that. |
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