"If the Ku Klux Klan were talking up a McCain victory, wouldn't that be deemed relevant? So why not this?"
And this too. Zawahiri wants McCain to win so he'll commit the supreme act of stupidity and bomb Iran, thereby possibly bringing the downfall of the hated Shiite ruled nation.
http://www.juancole.com/2008/05/zawahiri-endorses-mccain-pl an-to-bomb.html
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In response to Peacefrog2r,
I made a blog entry on my page here http://pittsburghsoldier.blogtownhall.com/.
Please read it and give feedback. I am more interested in getting these things right than trying to figure out who is right. |
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Very well put, as a veteran myself I want to take time out of politicing and pay respects also for the words expressed. |
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I know that most of you are thinking deeply about the numbers and demographics of who will vote for who in this state, county, or congressional district. I have something to propose:
Memorial Day is just around the corner. As Americans, let us think about our Fallen Heros from now until this important Holiday. Too many of us think of Memorial Day as just another three day weekend. Please, from now until then, thank our service members, place a flag on a grave, replace an old flag and bring it to the VFW or the American Legion so that it can be properly burned.
I have done my part by creating a place where you or anyone you might know can write a "Memorial Day Tribute" for our Fallen Heros. They have fought and died for your right to give whatever political opinion you want.
You can write a "Memorial Day Tribute" at:
http://www.djgoski.com |
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You say Obama has the solution ? Please explain to me just what his solution is. In detail. |
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is why does McCain listen to what the political adviser for a known terrorist group says? Does McCain also listen to Osama bin Laden? Or only those terrorist that are politically convenient to listen to?
Hizbollah and Hamas are funded and supported by Iran, who is the biggest winner in the Middle East after the past five years of a failed policy in Iraq. Iran and al Qaeda are much stronger today than they were six years ago, and the United States is much weaker after fighting a long war with no clear objective (please think about it). Al Qaeda is completely different than Hamas and Hizbollah, even though we call them all terrorist organizations (which they are). Both of the Iran-supported groups have much support from the people where they occupy. Hamas outright won free and fair elections under intense international oversite last year. Now I don't think we should be talking to these groups directly, but you don't beat groups that have the type of support they have by "bombing them into oblivion".
Iran is the root-cause for almost all our troubles in the Middle East, and we are in absolutely no position to use military force there specifically because of how much real damage has been done to our forces in Iraq. Iran knows this and is getting stronger every day we stay here, where I am at, in Iraq.
Obama has the real solution to this region, and is by no means weak or soft.
Wake up America. Something has to change before it's too late. |
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It would really help if the GOP Congressmen would unite and fight earmarks, for instance. And illegal immigration and global warming legislation, etc..
It's like Peggy Noonan said, for the Reps to be claiming that these new Blue Dogs aren't real conservatives is ringing hollow because the so-called GOP conservatives haven't lived up to their advertising either. Might as well try the Dems. |
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My understanding from other sources is that the Dem campaigned as a conservative in a conservative area. Maybe that is how the Dems will get elected - run as Republicans. Wonder if they will vote with the Republicans when they get to congress. Yeah Right.
You still have to have quality candidates to win - just throwing someone into the race because they are Rep will seldom work. |
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If you really want to get a rage on, start visiting The Weekly Standard and get a dose of William Krystol these days. He is arguing that the "conservatives" in Congress need to rally behind McCain and ride his coattails. What a tool! Those three congressmen who lost their seats lately were in ruby red districts where Bush is STILL very popular. This is not a repudiation of Bush but of big spending Congress and the lack of a conservative message to rally around. |
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Where are the STRONG voices on the RIGHT who would call out these infatile Libs/Dems on these stupid TANRUMS???
NO ONE CALLS THEM OUT!
By God- THAT is half the reason POTUS Bush's ratings are so low-- BE A MAN! CALL'EM OUT! |
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is what this is all about.This so called outrage is about as real as the sniper bullets in Hillary's Bosnia trip.It's just political posturing,trying to deflect the fact of Obamas weaknesses.Is it so hard for the libs to admit that Obama has some flaws? Why do they have to always worship their candidate as some infallible entity so they can justify voting for them? Look at this thread ,republicans who will vote for McCain but still see his flaws and criticize him.Of course when the president of Iran says Israel is dead there \is no outrage expressed.Priorities,priorities. |
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Since when did those in politics ever question the need to mudsling?
You all have a willing mule called "guilt by association" and so you flog it another mile.
I personally do not believe there is any standard whatsoever as to some line that can't be crossed with respect to politics, left or right.
You'll all attack anyone and everyone for any gain.
We all know this too. You do, I do. Which begs the question, "why the question?"
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It is obvious that most of you believe that we should should allow the enemies of the United States to help determine the outcome of the United States presidential election. No matter how much one may disagree with Obama it is wrong and counter productive to give any credence to statements from a terrorist organization like Hamas. |
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volakis writes: Saturday, May, 17, 2008 8:51 PM
Angret needs a history lesson...
volakis:
You need a history lesson...Furthermore, the correlation that Bush tried to make between the current situation and what happened in WW II with the Nazi appeasement by the Europeans by handing over 1/2 of Czechoslovakia is complete BS! It takes a Nazi to know one.
The only reason Bush and McCain do not want to negotiate with the Iranians is that they WANT to go to war at all costs...because it is in their interest and the financial interests of their constituents to do so. They want to make another $3 Trillion for the oil and defense industries. THAT is the truth of the matter. The Islamo-fascist appeasement argument is a political smokescreen.
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Your stupidity is exceeded only by your ignorance. I honestly cannot believe anyone could make such stupid comments. The one who wants war at all costs is someone like Obama. If he is elected and succeeds in pulling out of Iraq we will be forced to repell the Islamo Fascists who will immediately invade or control Iraq. Then we will have full war.
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I doubt Ms. Leibau is related to the character played by Robert Clary--Cpl. Louis LeBeau.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0058812/
Sadly, this Web site mentions that Ivan Dixon, who played Kinch, died 16 March 2008.
What a great show. |
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"Reaching across the aisle" = Bending over and grabbing your ankles |
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But is Carol Platt Leibau related to that French guy on "Hogan's Heroes"? |
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I much rather have peace, but the farce is that a live and let live policy does nt work with terrorist regimes. And Hamas is one. It seems to me we need peace through strengh. |
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You must be a 9/11 truther, or a big keith Olberman fan, maybe Mickeal moore is a personal hero, anyway deny all you want terrorist are real so just keep living in that buuble of yours that MSNBC paints for the left, it nevered happened right? So answer me this Why did Cater let 70 americans sit and rot for 444 days, diplomacy right? Diplomacy usually works best between resonable governments not with terrorists. |
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It just went on and on, very few, if any nose holders. I don't see how McCain wins without the illegal alien vote. ;) |
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"I've got a Republican Solution for you: Tighten the belt or lose the pants" |
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Yeah, I saw your link on another post and commented after visiting. It is astounding how few positive comments are posted. In fact, I didn't see one and gave up but am assuming a few nose-holding myrmidons must have posted at some point. It's turning into a rout but it looks like someone is going to have to tell the RNC. An intervention may be in order. THE needs an emergency RINOplasty. Insanity can be hard to detect sometimes. |
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Arngret,
More saber rattling rhetoric directed towards the west...Iran would be wiped off the face if they attempted any kind of a first strike and they know it...all the reason they will never carry out those actions. We could level Iran tomorrow and that still would not stop a concerted effort by extremists who had the will to set off a nuke in Israel.
The IRA held off the Brits for almost 40 years. Military power did not solve that problem either...it was a diplomatic solution that ended the bombings in Great Britain. CATCH A CLUE! At the height of IRA activity it was suggested that less than 1000 men in cells of 8-12 operatives were holding off the entire military power of England. Go figure. They would still be fighting that war if they had not come to a diplomatic solution. The WAR ON TERROR is a farce. You might as well wage a war on STUPIDITY!! |
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Take a look at this thread, we are so not alone:
http://blog.nrcc.org/comment.cfm?entry_id=400 |
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I agree to a point.
I see gevernment much the same way as you - a necessary evil. I am a huge fan of gridlock - the less they get done the less we get hurt and the less it costs us.
I totally reject those who claim a vote for anyone other than the 2 mainstream nominees is a vote thrown away, so I respect what you're saying. Still...that voice I hear sobbing on the other side of that door sounds an awfully lot like my mother. I'm still sorting it out. |
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volakis.... Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Some advice.... A little less caffeine on MOTIVES point.
Pasadena Phil: 7:59 PM
I struggle to understand the lack of substance from the GOP. McCain is quite capable of winning my vote should you ever decide to Politically Man-Up and consistently pilot the Straight Talk Express, instead of this "I Can't Really Decide What I Am, A Statesman or a Politician" crap
What I Learned This Week | Obama: Assassination Joke?
http://whatilearnedthisweek.wordpress.com/obama-assassinati on/
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I need a history lesson but how some liberals seem not to keep up with current events in the Middle East, guess they are blinded to get back in the white house. Yes I have been to Iraq 2004-05 and saudia Araia 1988-89.
President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad Of Iran again lashed out at Israel on Friday and said it was "heading toward annihilation," just days after Tehran raised fears about its nuclear activities by saying it successfully enriched uranium for the first time.
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=d8gvsuc0h&show_arti cle=1 |
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Whatever you decide to do, the world will not come to an end and no one is going to appear at your door to take you away. I just wish we could have had the meat-and-potato discussions about the important issues and principles when it counted. As we are seeing, the closer the candidates are on substance, the more shrill the rhetoric. I have my Cuban cigar and single malt scotch ready for the November conservative victory: more conservative Congress and no mandate for whoever wins the presidential race. |
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Let's see, Ahmadinejad again lashed out at Israel on Friday and said it was "heading toward annihilation," just days after Tehran raised fears about its nuclear activities by saying it successfully enriched uranium for the first time.
Link Below
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=d8gvsuc0h&show_arti cle=1
Seems to me your not keeping up with current events. Iran backs Hamas, We are allies with Isreal and threats are made against all americans, they just want to kill us period. |
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You make a compelling point.
I said when we nominated McCain that I could not in good conscience vote for him; however, I also said I would reserve my final decision until closer to November, and give McCain a chance to do something - ANYTHING!, to give me a reason to vote for him. So far - nothing.
If the election were to be held tomorrow I would not be able to vote for McCain. |
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Dear Angret,
You need a history lesson...and a current events calendar. First of all, the hypocrisy of McCain's comments are self evident in that when Hamas was newly in power he stated that we would "have to deal with them eventually" suggesting that he would negotiate directly with Hamas (no benchmarks, no preconditions). Furthermore, Rice and Gates have both said that we need to maneuver Iran into a position to force them into negotiations. Look at the hard line the Bush admin took with North Korea for 5 years...now were do we stand with the North Koreans? Do you believe that the Bush administration is "appeasing" the North Koreans by sending them 1,000 tons of rice to keep them from advancing their Nuclear ambitions? Which is cheaper in dollars and human lives?
There is a saying in politics and war...."Keep your enemies close". Direct negotiations in a calculated manner, using all the diplomatic tools that a "super-power" can bring can do as much damage or more than direct military action alone. Obama is not suggesting direct talks with Iran until "bench marks" are met. You can learn as much about your enemies weaknesses and their strengths and intentions by engaging them directly. Saber rattling and war mongering rhetoric achieves nothing.
Furthermore, the correlation that Bush tried to make between the current situation and what happened in WW II with the Nazi appeasement by the Europeans by handing over 1/2 of Czechoslovakia is complete BS! It takes a Nazi to know one.
The only reason Bush and McCain do not want to negotiate with the Iranians is that they WANT to go to war at all costs...because it is in their interest and the financial interests of their constituents to do so. They want to make another $3 Trillion for the oil and defense industries. THAT is the truth of the matter. The Islamo-fascist appeasement argument is a political smokescreen. |
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"Think of it as Satan locked in the CLOSET...
We live in a great country and voting 3rd party is one of many safety valves built into the system. Let's not be afraid to use it. It's a secret ballot. You won't get arrested. |
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It helps if you put things in perspective. I see government as a necessary evil. Most of the discussions here at TH are based on the assumption that our government is the solution to our problems. Except with us true conservatives. My happiness does not hinge on who becomes our next president. I have no problem voting for Bob Barr. I may even vote for someone else. Who knows? I just don't buy into this cartoonish notiong that this election is so important that if Obama gets elected, it's the end of civilization. Have you looked at McCain? We have BIG problems in this country but the presidential election is a hopelessly lost cause. It is only important at this point for its symbolism. The only thing left to do is work on Congress while denying a mandate for either Obama or McCain. The time to argue about issues has long passed. The RNC was determined to nominate a liberal Democrat and they succeeded.
Think of it as Satan locked in the closed trying every trick to get you to open the door. Don't do it! That is not your mother sobbing pathetically behind the door. It'll all be over in November, Satan will disappear and life will go on. |
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Some interesting links associated with this blog. I know the leftwing will just deny it and say it's right wing propaganda, oh the fools that they are!!!!
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives2/2008/04/020315.php
http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/Hamas_Endorses_Obama/200 8/04/17/88754.html
http://www.rightwingnews.com/mt331/2008/04/hamas_endorses_o bama_can_hizbo.php
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Ever hear of hisory repeating itself? Pretty likley, if we cut and run the U.S. looks pretty weak, and shows that those groups I mentioned can pretyy much go unchecked. Why do you think Carter left 70 Amricans hanging for 444 days. They were released On the Day Reagans Presidential Inagruartion. They pretty much laughed at Carter, and hamas Backing Obama they know they have another apeaser in the white house, it will be like shooting fish in a barrel for them. |
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I could not agree with you more. It's almost unbelievable that in the greatest country on earth, our choice is amoung Moe, Larry and Curley.
I know, I know - Bob Barr. I'm still deciding. |
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By responding to anything Hamas or any terrorist group says, we allow them to possess influence they wouldn't otherwise have. It could be they are afraid of Obama because he will be perceived as weak and so is more likely to be a threat to them should he feel that he has to demonstrate that he isn't weak. Whatever the reason, Republicans are allowing themselves to be used by even responding to it. How desperate are Republicans that they have to grasp at every straw? Were this election about issues instead of emotional fear-mongering (Obama is absolutely about the fear-mongering), we would have plenty of ammunition to attack the Dems with assuming the GOP was actually a different party. It's like the Three Stooges gag: "Man, if we had some ham, we could make some ham and eggs, if we had some eggs." |
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Arngret, I didn't know you owned a crystal ball the way you predict the future is uncanny. Ooops I mean moronic. |
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If he wins the presdency, we will be pulling out of iraq, Hamas, Hezballa, Al Quiada or any other Terrorist group will take american hostages and eventually execute them and watch nothing will happen for a reprisal against any of these groups if this happens. It will be worse than any Iranian Hostage crisis or maybe worse than a 9/11. Too bad the left cannot see the writing on the walls, too worried about appeasment I Guesss? |
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