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Friday, September 29, 2006
Brigitte Gabriel: A Survivor of Islamic Terror Warns America
Posted by: Mary Katharine Ham at 12:22 PM

Welcome, Hot Air readers! I got all blabby at the top, here, but the video's below. Scroll a bit.

There's been a lot of talk in the blogosphere over the last couple of days about whether some conservatives think and speak and write as if we are at war with the entire religion of Islam.

Michelle Malkin was the target of the original accusations, which came from Dean Esmay and called on Malkin to "start making a distinction between Muslims who hate us and want to kill us, and Muslims who believe in freedom, democracy, and religious tolerance?"

Michelle is a fiery writer who recognizes the dangers of sharia law and dhimmitude and the oppressive elements of the Koran and doesn't shy away from saying it. That does not mean she cannot also respect our Muslim allies, but she makes her case plenty well in the link above. The same is true of many other fiery, conservative writers who speak frankly and sometimes angrily about the radical elements of Islam without ignoring the fact that Islam does, in fact, inform them.

Since the conversation began, many others have joined the discussion, both on Michelle's side and not. It's actually become a rather pleasant debate over whether tenets of the Muslim religion make it incompatible with liberal democracy, individual freedom, etc., no thanks to its inauspicious beginnings.

My thoughts on the argument at hand are below the jump, but my point in writing this is to introduce you to another ally in the fight for Western civilization. Her tone is fiery and she's not overly worried about offending radical Muslims, mostly because they bombed her home in Lebanon, leaving her trapped under the rubble as a 9-year-old girl. She spent two months in a hospital and much of her adolescence in a bomb shelter because people wanted her dead because of her faith.

Her name is Brigitte Gabriel, and she's a Lebanese journalist who grew up a Christian in the Middle East. She has written the book, "Because They Hate: A Survivor of Islamic Terror Warns America." I get the feeling she is unconcerned about whether folks think she sufficiently hedges her critiques of radical Islam and surrounds them with caveats and P.C. phrases for the religion of peace. Why? Because she believes the risk is too great for the West to mince words and unwittingly end up facing an enemy we never understood.

This clip is nine minutes long, but it's worth it-- partly because it's my first adventure in video editing and it took me several hours, failures, and e-mails to Allah to get it done, but mostly because she's a great speaker.

Gabriel was asked the same question Esmay asked Michelle this week, though much more politely, at an event at The Heritage Foundation. Here are her answers (watch your volume; she gets riled):

The whole speech is at this link. About an hour long and awesome.

As for me, I think the actual disagreement isn't nearly as bad as the rhetoric Esmay used to point it out. In going all ballistic on Michelle, he went well beyond the very tone he was accusing Michelle of wrongly using on our Muslim allies. Um, Dean, meet your ally in the fight for Western civilization. Her name is Michelle. She should be treated with the same respect you ask her to afford allied Muslims.

But on the argument itself, do some conservative writers fail to draw a distinction between radical Islam and Islam? None that I read do that. What they do is explicitly connect the radical Islamofascists and the religion that influences them. They examine that religion, the law it inspires, and the terrorism it breeds. They challenge moderate Muslims to speak out against the bad parts, reclaim the religion they say has been hijacked, and stand shoulder-to-shoulder with American Christians and Jews in a fight against the hijackers.

And, it is a challenge. It sounds as if Esmay and others would like us to ask more nicely, to avoid insult even when the truth is all a trigger it requires. Well, we've spent five years since 9/11 being nice, shrinking at every possible offense, and being wrist-slapped for largely non-existent backlash and discrimination against Muslims. We have asked nicely, and we still haven't heard a lot from moderate Muslims in our country. It still appears that Muslims among us show up in greater numbers at pro-Hezbollah rallies than at anti-terrorism rallies.

Does that not warrant a little tougher tone, and mightn't a tougher tone serve to embolden truly moderate Muslims who are afraid to speak? Why not issue challenges instead of pleas? Because it stirs the pot? That's the argument some made about reprinting the Danish cartoons. What does it accomplish, they asked? Aren't we pushing moderate Muslims farther away from us?

If 35 years of terrorism in the name of your religion and five years since 9/11 of the world trying to understand the root causes of said terrorism hasn't made you want to stand up and call out those who have co-opted your faith for murder, then it is not a slate of editorial cartoons that prevented you from being an ally. That decision was made long ago. As Jeff Foxworthy would say, "you might not be a moderate Muslim if..."

If we predicate our editorial decisions on what will anger the folks in the above paragraph, haven't we already forfeited that freedom? We can say all we want that we're making the decision, that we're simply exercising restraint because we don't want to stoke the coals, but the fact remains that the criteria for pulling editorial content is someone else's reaction, not our own news judgement. There is much to be said for kindness, moderation of tone, level-headed debate, and respect. I like all of them. There's also much to be said for making a stand, speaking the truth, and being fed up to here with the fact that moderate Muslims aren't saying more and grabbing the reins of their religion back from the devil's coachmen.

The two can co-exist, and often do on conservative blogs. (Read that whole link for a great take on the situation.)

I can't help but think that the blurred distinction between radical Islam and Islam that Dean Esmay is bemoaning in some conservatives' writing would become much clearer if moderate Muslims made it their business to make it clear. Members of a faith have some responsibility to draw the bright line between themselves and the faith's extremists. If I were a Christian who never bothered to denounce religiously motivated abortion-clinic bombings, and instead complained about the tone of those who did condemn them, wouldn't you start to wonder about me? And, wouldn't you be warranted in wondering?


 

 



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Black Elk writes: Tuesday, October, 03, 2006 11:22 AM
muslims

I for one am sick and tired of this whole Muslim
fiasco, on one hand we have the radical and on
the other we have Muslims who believe in freedom, democracy, and religious tolerance or
so they say,well till they get a handle on the
radical element in their religon they are no
better than the radicals...

Brett_McS writes: Tuesday, October, 03, 2006 8:04 AM
The Truth about Muhammed
Lydia: "Every Muslim on earth loves Mohammed even though he was a pervert and a criminal." Yes, but they don't know that. Yet.
Sue writes: Saturday, September, 30, 2006 5:29 PM
Sue
We just watched an ex-President display the type of behavior that decent, reasoned people understand is the frustration of a child like personality. Or, in simple words, a cranky 2 year-old: matako-chan.

What is it with people who cannot discourse without sounding, via their words, full of hate? Why the name calling, the accusations. Why? If we agree to disagree, then we both win. But if one of the pair does not, it is useless.

I think matako-chan sincerely believes what he/she is saying. Matako-chan, I have read what some Mulim bloggers and websites are saying, it is the same as what they say in the videos they show to the world and which are confirmed by their actions. I don't decapitate anyone. I don't kidnap anyone. I don't want gays hung. I don't want young girls stoned to death because they were raped. And, I certainly do not want to live under Sharia Law, period! I have a choice because I am an American. Most in the world don't. So they get blown up hourly all over the world. Great group of folks, these terrorists who happen to be Muslims following the religion of peace. Give me a break!!
Otter writes: Saturday, September, 30, 2006 3:08 PM
matako-chan
is a muslim troll, at best. A dnc infiltrator at worst.
matako-chan writes: Saturday, September, 30, 2006 6:43 AM
no. im a republican...
who is sick of your hypocrisy. how long have you been here? malkin has been a hateful bigot since i came here. Do you remember Dubai Ports World, where malkin couldn't get around the fact that our allies in Dubai were gasp! shudder! muslim? And also not bright enough to understand the benefit of fighting an economic front in the WoT? She routinely mocks islam and muhammed (see her crap posted on the great cartoon controversy) inspite of the fact our other MUSLIM allies, the citizens of baghdad are dying by the hundred or so every day.
she is just another cheerleader for the clash of civs. c'mon, you guys lust for it. signing up robert spencer instead of a muslim co-blogger is priceless.

Why don't you read what the muslim bloggers say about Gabriel et al?
Say what you like, they are angry chicks that are grinding an axe on Islam and making a profit on it. Selling books to people like you, MKH, because to moderate muslims the angry estrogen posse is completely irrelelvent. They are not buying those books.
Mary Katharine writes: Saturday, September, 30, 2006 3:14 AM
Right, matako
Heaven forbid that a woman should use her right to free speech to speak out against those who she thinks are a danger. Just "angry estrogen." Sounds kinda sexist, but it can't be because you're a tolerant liberal, right?
matako-chan writes: Friday, September, 29, 2006 7:43 PM
gabriel is totally irrelevent
to the lebanese. here is what they're saying about her.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lp0xRz3EoJA

the angry estrogen posse (manji, sultan, hirsii ali) is only relevent to people like you and malkin.

BC writes: Friday, September, 29, 2006 7:43 PM
Persuasive, Matako!
Your namecalling and unsupported claims have made me change my mind, yes indeedy!
matako-chan writes: Friday, September, 29, 2006 6:58 PM
are you a moron?
Malkin is a stone islamophobe, and lumps all muslims together. Where were you for Dubai Ports World?
The Great Cartoon trauma-drama?
And you need no further proof than this.
When dean asked michelle about about a muslim co-blogger, she solicited foul jihaadi-logic-regurgitator himself, robert spencer.
I guess you two digits should stick together.
BC writes: Friday, September, 29, 2006 6:33 PM
Esmay v. Malkin Smackdown
I don't think a fair reading of Malkin is that she believes Islam and liberal democracy are inherently incompatible, which is why I find Esmay's attack on her (and his subsequent profane shrieking about treason) so risible. Obviously there exist devout Muslims who accept liberal democracy (including religious pluralism), and emphatically and unequivocally condemn the ghastly violence perpetrated by their co-religionists.

The important question is whether such individuals exist in significant numbers. I think Americans can be forgiven for concluding, after the past several years, that they do not. Even among our allies in the Middle East, acceptance of liberal democracy and religious pluralism is an exception rather than the rule; as we have recently seen from the donnybrook over the Pope's remarks, the "Muslim street" can be counted on to riot psychotically at any perceived slight to the Islamic faith. Furthermore, the record of Muslims standing up to condemn violence perpetrated in their name of their faith is positively dismal: even putatively "moderate" organizations such as CAIR constantly equivocate and make excuses for Islamist violence.

So what it comes down to is that, while Islam may not be inherently incompatible with liberal democracy, as a practical matter it all too often is. And I think that as time goes on and the body count grows without much in the way of pushback from Muslim moderates, it's going to be increasingly justifiable to adopt an, "If you're not part of the solution then you're part of the problem," attitude.
truthbetold writes: Friday, September, 29, 2006 6:04 PM
Where is the love?
I have been trying to get someone to show me where in the Quran there is something comparable to the verse in Mathew 5:44 in the Holy Bible. So far no one has been able to show me anything and I myself searched an English translation of the Quran on the internet and couldn't find anything either. I say that until someone shows me a verse in the Quran that says a Muslim should love his enemies and do good to them that hate them, Islam is a religion of violence and hate and the complete opposite of Christianity which is a religion of love and peace.
Lawrence writes: Friday, September, 29, 2006 5:53 PM
Moderate Muslims?
MKH: "I can't help but think that the blurred distinction between radical Islam and Islam that Dean Esmay is bemoaning in some conservatives' writing would become much clearer if moderate Muslims made it their business to make it clear."

L: Because there is no such thing as moderate Islam.

There are cultural Muslims who do not practice strict Islam, which we could consider Islamic Moderates.

However, the problem is that when they speak up they are put on top of the target list of the "radical" Muslims.

There is no way they can win. If moderate Muslims keep quite, we attack them. If the speak up, radical Islamists kill them.
Lawrence writes: Friday, September, 29, 2006 5:47 PM
Islamic Terror
MKH: "There's been a lot of talk in the blogosphere over the last couple of days about whether some conservatives think and speak and write as if we are at war with the entire religion of Islam."

L: The statement that we are at war with theim This view is complete misdirection. We are not the aggressors in this. They are.

It's not about what conservatives think, speak and write. It's about what Muslims think, speak and write. It's about the fact that they are by their own clear admission initiating and waging a war with us.

When will we pull our heads out of the sand?

Frank J. writes: Friday, September, 29, 2006 5:45 PM
Thanks for supplying that video MHK
My biggest problem with Dean Esmay's argument was how he tried to label anyone who would question Islam as a "traitor." Or, as he would put it, anyone who would question a belief held by someone in the military is an "[explitive deleted] traitor." He came up with one silly little argument and then tried to use it as a cudgel to beat down anyone who would try and question him... like the left does with the chickenhawk label.

Now, I play up any stories I see of heroic Muslims on my own site as I think that's a productive thing to do that argues we have Muslim friends with no need for commentary from me. The only problem is I don't know where to find more (I would like it if some site would put up such stories the same way we do with heroic stories of our troops). If Muslims want to change public opinion, they need to get rid of CAIR and play us stories of what they've done to fight terror and save their fellow Americans.

But, being frank, I obviously think Mohammed is a false prophet or I wouldn't be a Christian. I reserve the right to question all of Islam the same as people question all other religions. It's easy and makes you feel good to say most Muslims are peaceful, but I honestly don't know how many support violence and how many don't.
PHenry writes: Friday, September, 29, 2006 4:02 PM
Muslim tolerance
I started out just after 9 11 by trying to be very aware of the difference between the Islamic extremist terrorists and the peaceful people who are Muslims. I have lost much of that feeling, because I see every day abhorrent acts by Muslims with very little sign of condemnation or rejection of them and their tactics by the rest of the followers of the religion.
We saw a very small number of anti Muslim hate crimes after 9 11, and every one of them was universally condemned and the perps prosecuted. Can Muslims say that? When we hear every day about the latest hate speech by Imams in our own country, calling for jihad and praising suicide mass murderers? Where are the moderates standing against the perversion of their peaceful religion?
Many Muslim countries have NO religious tolerance, they believe in and support killing anyone who chooses to stop being Muslim, or anyone who 'insults' Islam, etc. They treat non Muslims as second class citizens, and will not allow bibles and other religious practices in the country. Yet they demand others not only tolerate, but live according to their sharia laws, even OUTSIDE of their Muslim countries. (Cartoons, operas, etc)
Muslims either accept tolerance for all, or they have no right to expect it from the rest. Until they take some very concrete actions to cleanse the filth from among their fellow Muslims, they will more and more be seen as with them, instead of with the modern world. In other words, it is becoming very hard to see the line between moderate Muslims and extrememe Muslims. I wonder now if there ever really was one.
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