Wednesday, November 04, 2009
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2012: Disasters Strike Christianity, Fear Islam
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Posted by:
Kevin Glass at
5:06 PM
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2012, the big disaster movie starring John Cusack (that looks to be a disaster... seriously, the movie just looks bad) is about the end of the world and, as I'm sure you've all seen in the previews, uses a wide variety of special effects to destroy most of the world.
Director Roland Emmerich said he had great fun taking a CGI powered swipe at some of the world's landmarks, especially Christian houses of worship and symbols. But a major Muslim holy site managed to escape destruction.
On St. Peter's Basilica:
"Why ... don't [we] have the church fall on people's head?" Emmerich said. He added: "The whole Vatican kind of tips and kind of rolls over the people. It said something, because in the story, some people ... believe in praying and prayer, and they pray in front of the church, and it's probably the wrong thing, what they would do in that situation."
The movie goes on to destroy the Sistine Chapel and Christ the Redeemer statue in Rio de Janeiro, the director says, "because I'm against organized religion."
The one that got away? Mecca. Even the Hollywood anti-religion director didn't want to draw the Jihadist ire of Muslims:
"My co-writer Harald said I will not have a fatwa on my head because of a movie. And he was right. ... We have to all ... in the Western world ... think about this. You can actually ... let ... Christian symbols fall apart, but if you would do this with [an] Arab symbol, you would have ... a fatwa."
He said he "wanted to" show the destruction of Mecca, but was worried about violent repercussions against him.
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Kevin?
Dude, deal with you persecution complex. Its interfering with any journalistic talent you might have hidden. |
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Hollyweird may CGI the end of the world, but every soundbite scene manages to defy the laws of physics.
For that alone, the movie seems like a joke and I will save my money. If I have 2 hours to kill when it makes cable...maybe? |
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You didn't miss a thing. He's a coward.
I WAS looking foreward to seeing the movie (rental, of course). Thanks for the heads-up, Kevin. |
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So...the director is someone who cowers in the presence of bullies, but picks on the meek. It isn't God that's reserved a special place for him .... |
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New tune being written by Joe Strummer in the afterlife.
Quit being such a coward Emmerich and quit assuming some irate Christian or Catholic Christian won't walk up to you in Maddeo's with a personal intent. |
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Christians just aren't threatening enough these days to earn such respect, though one wouldn't know it from listening to progressive rhetoric. |
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Maybe Hollywood will be destroyed in 2012 and the rest of the world saved.
No down side there.
Seems fair, all things considered.
FADE TO BLACK. |
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I was just thinking that if Emmerich wants, he can go into any Black church, or Southern Baptist Church or a Catholic Church in say, Philly or Brooklyn, and mouth off and see what happens when he gets outside. Some Christians will be glad to minister to him so that he has the right perspective. |
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Bambi takes on Honduras, but not Iran. |
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Jerk-off-fest ain't gonna come near making its money back. All low gross wishes to another Hollywood Chickenshiite. |
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This is no surprise. There is so much Christian bashing, not only in Hollywood but all over this country. Even The Obama through the Christians under the bus. You see, it takes a principled person to stand for principles. It takes courage to be couragous. It takes nothing to be for and stand for nothing. They built their houses in quicksand. |
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Any special effects showing giant windmills tipping over or solar panels catching fire?
On a more serious note, I belief the Left lacks a fundamental understanding of human psychology and the average person. Everytime Hollywood provokes us, they motivate that many more people to get out and support Republicans and Independents.
Do they really believe that the average adult doesn't know they hate Christianity?
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The man totally lacks the courage of his convictions. |
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War has been declared on Christianity not only in Hollywood but also in Washington. This has been propagated by people of faith not staying on course. I am concerned how Christians have become blinded in the political process. We tend to check our beliefs at the voting booth in order to win. This is most prominent in areas like separation of church and state, abortion and Gay marriage. How can professing catholic democrats continue to support these policies in contradiction to their faith? If you are interested you can read more at PoliticalGuardDog.com
Bill Scott
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My theory on the far left's hatred of Christianity is that they really fear the god of Islam and despise the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob. The Muslim god of Jihad is capricious and predictably demanding to the point of carrying out Jihad against the unbeliever and treating women and children as chattel and pieces of meat to be used to even shield themselves during war), while the Judeo-Christian God is loving, reaching out and gracious. The far left hates children who are innocent, naive and needy (consider abortion and the desire for zero population). The far left hates needy and innocent. They want to be god. They secretly know they are wrong and supporting evil. They flaunt the evil and yet pay homage to the jihadist god. Why? Cowardice of course, but also I believe an unconscious desire to ward off their own ultimate punishment for the unbelief they are living out. They of course (unless coming to the truth) get a God of judgment only because they rejected His offer of freedom through Christ. They hate Christ because He demands only one thing- the relinquishment of the pride they love so much and will be willing to go to hell for. If they relinquish their pride they have need for a Savior and if they have need for a Savior they cant act as god. They are in a bind so they worship themselves and fear their own demise and appease the Muslim god out of fearfulness. |
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Fear breeds fear, and people eventually destroy that which they fear. Islam will eventually convince enough people that it is more dangerous NOT to destroy it, than to let it be. I look forward to the day that Islam is viewed in the same light as Paganism. A few adherants, no power, and a part of history. |
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Sorry your hurt. I didn't cause it. Christ didn't cause it. Human nature being what it is caused it. You have that nature. I have that nature. We all have it. That's why Christ came. Join the club. Jews and Gentiles killed Christ. Me being smart in your eyes is unimportant to me. The truth is. You can run from it all you want. he will always be there waiting for you or anyone. But your excuses won't wash. |
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What are you? Eight years old?
Let it go and grow up, man. |
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It's always nice to know ahead of time what films I don't want to see.
Emmerich's name on the project will be an automatic pass for me from now on.
Clive, you're confusing behavior with theology.
Not all Germans killed Jews. Not all Muslims are terrorists.
Not all Christians are intolerant idiots. I suspect the same is true of liberals.
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Wadda wuss. Bashing the Christians is the limit of his "courage". Barf.
Coopmeister, how come you say the author if this article has a persecution complex? Roland Emmerich is the one that says he is afraid. Kevin Glass said nothing on the subject. |
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Just don't go see it. Problem solved.
Next? |
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what is NOT, "fake". The acolytes of that "fake" religion don't agree with you, Fan Tan. And they don't much like, those who disagree, or don't believe. Have you been to Europe lately, "loony"? I have, and i have many friends in the UK. Our media, refuses to report what has happened, and what is happening. In a word, frightening! In every large city in Europe, there are whole sections within those cities, that police do not go into. Roving bands of Muslim immigrants, rule those areas. Same for the UK, roving bands of Muslims, intimidating the people, forcing the Shariah on all(the UK, has Shariah courts now). At present birth rates, Europe and the UK, will be majority Muslim, in 20 years! And the law of the land will be the Shariah. Guess what, "loony" and your goin' love this, it's on it's way here, too! You may believe Allah is fake, but listen up, fool, you won't admit that, that is if ya' wantta' keep that head of yours, attached to that scrawny body of yours. Prayin' is not optional, it's mandatory, "loony", 5 times a day, point that head of yours toward Mecca, bow down, and pray to Allah! And it better look convincing too. Think it can't happen here? It's comin', and they won't much like you, Fan Tan. And ya' better figure out which ways east, too! |
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You protest too much. "all" is not contained in my argument. |
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How brave these liberal Hollywood types are! Christianity? Let's trash it! Islam? Are you crazy? They might try to kill me! |
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...never having to take a serious risk, never having to pi$$ off those who are demented and truly dangerous (Christianity is so much more forgiving, peaceful). Finally, being an artiste in Hollywood means never having to emerge from a virtual reality.
Messin' with Muslims is way too much of the really real.
Yeah, Roland, we hear ya'.
Oh yes, one more thing.
Obama hears ya' as well and agrees wholeheartedly.
After all, he's an artiste too, don't ya' know? |
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are on a sure path to "dhimmitude".
I hope they like it when their heads are lopped off.
Kevin, thanks for the "heads up",....I won't be watching that pos movie!
BTW, ...Lonny IS a loonie! |
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Did the cult of Scientology make the cut? Can't offend any libs!! Perhaps only Hollywood elites would be offended. |
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It really tells you something when a supposed "intellectual" such as a Hollywood Director is really nothing more than a ignorant coward.
He's not being sensitive, diverse or tolerant at all. |
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has been going on for about 2 millenia now. Nothing new there. Showing a lot of Christian buildings get wiped out is no big deal, because having a bunch of Christian buildings being wiped out in reality would be no big deal. There would be no damage done to the faith itself, only to Western culture and art. The Christian faith is a personal one, and teaches that God makes each individual Christian His temple; no need for buildings, really. |
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"Simple solution
Just don't go see it. Problem solved.
Next?"
Exactly what I've been telling the admin about Fox News.
Maybe your "next" should include telling them that youself. |
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"New tune being written by Joe Strummer in the afterlife.
Quit being such a coward Emmerich and quit assuming some irate Christian or Catholic Christian won't walk up to you in Maddeo's with a personal intent."
Me- Why did you feel the need to qualify "catholic Christian" as a different kind of Christians. If anything, THEY are the original Christians, the rest of you are the offshoots and heretics...
But is this your real goal, that you are going to show your Christian Love by being just as violent and intolerant as you claim the Muslims are? |
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because, honestly, it just propogates the idiotic Mayan Calander mythology.
BUt now that I've heard it's going to have all the funditards in a tizzy about churches getting toppled... gee, maybe so. |
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But the thing is, when the end of the world does come, no one, absolutely no one will be ommitted from the touch of God's hand. We will all answer for what we have said, done, or not done in this life to God and HE then will make his judgement upon us to go to Heaven or to HEll. So, Islam beware!!! Be very aware!!!! |
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If one really reads the Holy Bible, they would understand that Jehovah God is the one and only God we are to worship. Human History even backs this up in events recorded in the middle east, eastern europe, and asia. Where ever God sent HIS disciples to spread His word, a MAN not a god, distorted that teaching to his own liking and that is where most of the religious organizations stem from. In the New Testament, we are given the exact pattern for worship to GOD and what he accepts and does not accept in that worship. GOD expect us to follow it to the "T"! He is a God of Love, not of destruction. Blantanly killing others because "Ahla" or whomever told them to, is not acceptable in GOD's eyes. One of the 10 Commandments is "THOU SHALT NOT KILL".
I fear the wrath of GOD on the United States is on its way. The rest of the world is in line next! |
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Roland Emmerich isn't worried about a fatwa. He's just concerned about ticket sales.
THE BEST THING IN 2012 IS ELECTION DAY |
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"I just have no respect for people who worship a god that allows little babies to die, natural disasters to kill thousands, things like that."
So you think God is a muscle-bound Santa Claus, doling out toys and switches?
How juvenile. |
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I did not realize that TH would allow two people to use the same name. I have changed mine to CherylK. In case anyone cares ;) |
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Yes, you killed Christ. I killed Christ. Everyone on this planet killed Christ. It was for our sins that He willingly went to His death on the cross, so that He could rise again and proclaim His victory over sin and death. I am just as responsible for that as anyone else.
I'm sorry that you had a bad experience with those "Christians". It is not the messenger on which you should concentrate but the message. God's message has always been twisted by man to fit his preconceptions, but that does not mean the message is any less relevant or meaningful. I pray that you will one day come to realize that you need Christ as much as I do and that you will accept Him as your Lord and Savior. Although we may disagree politically that is irrelevant compared to the salvation of your soul, and I would not want you to face eternity without Him. |
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The war against terrorism cannot be upgraded to a war against Islam. Christians can no longer be expected to join a holy war. The only way the infidels can be destroyed is by changing the reason for killing them. The war on drugs can be expanded to Afpak where everybody is an addict. Urine tests must be given by American soldiers and addicts have to be shot. This new approach will keep the war going for decades and enrich the bullet manufacturers. |
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... being interviewed at the dimwitcrat convention in 2000. He said Dubya wasn't qualified to be President because he was "only a governor", all the while not seeming to realize he had just trampled all over FDR, Jimmy Carter, and the then lame duck Clinton. New movies are slick production garbage with bright bulb actors like Cusack. 98.683% of what comes out of Hollywood nowadays is either stupid, offensive or both. This is just the latest in a string of really high entertainment oozing out of tinsel town, movies about action figures (dolls), toy trucks that turn into robots and the latest sixties sitcom make-over... Joy… Even if I got the opportunity to see this turkey on cable I'd probably opt to plug in a DVD and watch "Witness for the Prosecution” or “North by Northwest”, something made before Hollywood got highjacked by leftist dweebs with stilted imaginations. |
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As usual, what the hell are you talking about. You put the loon in lunatic. |
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As everyone probably suspects Emmerich is Jewish.
He may be against organized religions but Judaism seems to escape his wrath. |
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Really, you guys are complaining about this?
Remember "Independence Day"? People cheered when the White House was destroyed by the aliens. It was a pretty shocking show of disrespect for President Bush, don't you think? |
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"Independence Day" was released in '96.That would make it a pretty shocking show of disrespect for the Clintonistas. |
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Well at least he admits he's a coward! |
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What a wuss! Doesn't he know that islam is a religion of peace according to liberals, the media, and the hollywood dopes? |
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So "Independence Day" was disrespectful of President Bush, who wasn't even President when it was released? Wow, were the producers of that movie clairvoyant or what? |
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About hollywood, I don't care if larry david pizzzes up a rope, or on a picture of Christ, that is his problem and he will have to explain his actions later, I also don't care about emmerrich's movie, it just shows that hollywood and these two balless wonders can try to insult Christians because it is their freedom of speech right to do so. On the other hand it also shows these hollywood heavy weights, ha ha have no character,and would not think of trying to insult islam the same way for one reason, they fear repercussions I guess it is much easier to drive the road more traveled than off the beaten path. The media and hollywood is full of lowlifes that are not worth my time, so I think of what hollywood does for me, nothing and that is fine with me. |
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I watch movies to be entertained. Unlike the idiots who think the movie JFK is factual, I don't watch movies to be educated or to glean political views. I consider everything in a movie to be a fabrication. Just like I can watch the Wisard of Oz and be entertained without thinking a tornado can sweep your house up and take you to a magical land, I can watch movies like this and be entertained without considering the unimportant political views of the creators.
Of course, I don't ever waste my money by seeng movies in theaters. I wait until they hit the $5 rack at Walmart. |
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LOL. Glad to see somebody's paying attention. By the way, who WAS president when people across the country cheered as the White House was destroyed? |
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The German-born Roland Emmerich, for those who forget, directed "The Patriot" (2000), starring Mel Gibson. Was that "anti-American," too?
That was only one movie, as is "2012." Anyone can generalize about one flick. As for those who accuse Emmerich of being a "coward," go make your own movie about Muslims -- assuming you have the talent.
Hollywood has nothing to apologize for. It's culture-war radicalism that's the real-life disaster movie. And it's the Republican Party, my party, that's being driven off a cliff. |
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of Christians. Remember how they beat up on Mel Gibson for his movie about the Passion of Christ?
They also aren't afraid of little girls. They love Polanski for being the tough guy he is, drugging and raping a 13 year old.
Its a sick place full of sick minded ultra-liberals who run down to Cuba to worship at the feet of a murdering thug. Ain't seeing this piece of garbage, no way. As a matter of fact, there just aren't many movies worth seeing these days.
Who is this Emmerich guy anyway, a friend of Polanski?
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in a movie theatre in over 15 years. Those sick twisted narcissists don't deserve my money. The moron is definitely a coward.
"You can actually ... let ... Christian symbols fall apart, but if you would do this with [an] Arab symbol, you would have ... a fatwa."
It's real easy to slap around a religion that espouses turning the other cheek, wimp.
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CherylK:
This site DOES allow posters with the exact same post name IF the states they list when they register on this site are different. If you go to any column on this site, you might see TEN posters using the post name John who live in TEN different states. So the other Cheryl you mentioned, when she registered on this site, would have registered with a different state than what YOU registered with.
Tyler:
Look, child, we adults on this site really aren't interested in hearing about you learned in Romper Room today. So why don't you go to your room and play with your Nintendo or GameBoy or whatever you kids do today to amuse yourselves and leave this thread to us grown-ups?
Publius4254:
Yes, it IS refreshing to see a committed liberal these days openly acknowledge his cowardice, as Emmerich did.
To all you liberals here (like vladimir estragon):
For you who claim that Christian fundamentalists are supposedly just as dangerous as Muslim fundamentalists, I'll let YOU explain why Emmerich seriously feared being murdered by Muslims if he were to dared to show the destruction of Mecca - and why he evidently did NOT have the same fear of being similarly targeted by Christians in showing the destruction of Christian edifices and monuments.
Explain THAT dichotomy if you can, libs.
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As you are well aware that was Clinton and, no, I did not cheer when the WH was destroyed in that movie, or when the Empire State Building, Los Angeles, or any of the other cities were destroyed. |
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I don't know why Tyler's comments have any validity. He is Canadian and, thus, any opinion he has about what is going on in our country is irrelevant. Personally, I don't see what he has to be so smug about. I can't recall the last time a Canadian did anything that was worth a damn. |
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"I can't recall the last time a Canadian did anything that was worth a damn."
Would that include dying in Afghanistan fighting terrorists who never attacked Canada? |
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The last thing I can remember Canadians doing that was worth a damn was when they smuggled out of Iran some of our Iranian embassy personnel who managed to get out of the American embassy in Tehran 30 years ago, almost to this very day, just before the mobs seized it and were able to get over to the Canadian embassy and hid out there; the Canadians managed to get those Americans out of Iran by equipping them with fake documents indicating that they were Canadian citizens.
Think Canadians would take a similar risk on behalf of Americans TODAY?
Although, of course, Canadians these days just LOVE the U.S. - when they find they can't get medical care in their OWN country's socialized medical system and come across the border to get it in OUR system, that is.
What do you want to bet that a lot of Canadians right now are secretly TERRIFIED about the prospect of America adopting a socialized medical system just like THEIRS - but probably too cowardly to voice their fear? They know that if America goes the way of THEIR country, many Canadians who have the money to pay for treatment in this country that they can't get in Canada will now actually have to live with the inadequacies and restrictions of THEIR system - AND THEY KNOW THEY WON'T LIKE THAT ONE BIT! |
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Canada, in case you don't know, is a NATO signatory - and the member nations of NATO pledge that an attack on ONE NATO member will be treated as an attack on ALL NATO members.
So whether Islamic terrorists attacked Canada or not on 9/11 is irrelevant; either Canada's signature on the NATO accords means something or it doesn't.
By the way, I assume you know that a lot of Pakistanis who feared in the immediate aftermath of 9/11 that America would be MUCH less hospitable to Islamics hot-footed it to Canada. Wonder how much longer it will be before America gets hit with an Islamist terrorist attack for which a lot of the planning and personnel and material support came from north of the border. What will you say about Canada's role regarding Islamic terrorism THEN? |
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So Publius and Standshisground agree with each other that the Canadian deaths in Afghanistan aren't "worth a damn." Can I pass that on to my friends in the Canadian military, here in Washington? Man, I'm afraid to ask you what you think about Germans and Frenchmen who die helping us out. |
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Being as much of a flaming liberal as you are, I very seriously doubt that you know ANYONE serving in the military - ANYONE'S military.
So be my guest and pass the sentiments expressed in my prior post on to your imaginary friends in the Canadian military.
Regarding France and Germany: it seems quite obvious to me that both nations are playing a double game with the United States. Given the sizable Islamic populations both nations harbor, which only grows more preponderant every day as THEY reproduce and their Anglo-European countrymen DON'T, I expect at best token cooperation with the United States in our battle against Islamic terrorism from EITHER nation - in fact, pretty much from ANY nation in Europe.
And despite the fact that both France and Germany now have more conservative leaders than they did a few years ago, well, I'll believe they're serious in battling Islamic terrorism when I see it. The biggest battle against the Islamist threat THEY'RE battling, and will continue to, is the Islamic demographic within their own borders - and all appearances are that they're ALREADY planning to capitulate to it. What are they going to do, expel all the Turks and Algerians from their countries? They're ALREADY dependent on these people to pay the taxes that maintain their welfare state - and that state of dependency only grows stronger with each passing day. |
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*Hollywood has a heavy Jewish presence which includes characters like Emmerich.
*Hollywood also loves to bash Christianity and especially Catholicism.
*But no one ever makes a connection. Amazing |
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Lonny,
It is hard to explain such terrible things given an all-powerful and all-loving God. However, if you assume there is no God, then you will not be able to explain why we should even care about babies dying.
Seeing events like babies dying, horrific natural disasters, etc., causes us to have an emotional response. There is something inside that tells us that something is wrong--this is not how things are supposed to be. If you don't believe in God, then you can't explain your emotional response or anger logically. Your emotional response in that case would be irrational. Babies dying, thousands perishing in hurricanes and tsunamis, wars, and so on, are just the way things are. In other words...so what if a baby dies? That's just the way the world works. It is not evil, it just is.
However, if you believe in God, you are rightly outraged at death, because it is not the way things are supposed to be. The Bible says that death and natural disasters exist because of sin, which is ultimately our fault, not God's. It is true that God permits sin for now, but we are responsible for causing it. God promises to work through and around sin to produce a better good. In other words, we may intend something for evil, but God will ultimately work through it for a better purpose. We may still not understand exactly why it is necessary for people to experience such pain. However, we can be assured that it is necessary and will be worth it in the end, because we have a God who was willing to endure it himself by being born as a human (Jesus Christ), living a sinless life (like we should have), willingly dying on the cross in your place as a punishment for your sin, rising from the dead, and ascending to God's side.
That is the Christian claim, and I think it is respectable and logically defensible. |
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How original. We have been crucified and persecuted since 33 AD, or is it 33 A.C.E.? (After Christ Entered).
Having Dawkins call Mother Teresa a beeahtch is nothing compared to being thrown to the lions.
Christ told us to turn the other cheek. But sooner or later, we will run out of cheeks, and a fatwa is nothing compared to the next crusade. |
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"Being as much of a flaming liberal as you are, I very seriously doubt that you know ANYONE serving in the military - ANYONE'S military."
In fact, I have several close friends in the Canadian Air Force. And my son is in the Marines. So you're batting a thousand for the moron side today. Make that a slugging average of a thousand.
Oh, look, here's another howler: "I expect at best token cooperation with the United States in our battle against Islamic terrorism from EITHER nation." Did you know that that "at best token" cooperation from Canada has led to a higher casualty rate (percentage) than our own? Is there any reason for me to amend my long-held opinion that the louder people scream about military affairs, the less they actually know about them?
Meanwhile, back on topic . . . has it occurred to you cultural warriors that many people will recognize the Sistine Chapel and the Christ statue over Rio, but the shrines in Mecca don't have anywhere near the Q-factor? |
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So Mr. Emmerich shows a scale model of Mecca in his film with a subtitle saying simply "MECCA"; is THAT so difficult?
Filmmakers ROUTINELY put in subtitles in their films to identify what a geographic location shown in a film is supposed to represent if that location is integral to the plot of the movie and if the audience may not necessarily automatically recognize it by sight, like they would, say, the Taj Mahal.
In fact, I'll bet you that the biggest cheers BY FAR Emmerich would get in the theaters showing his film from the viewing audiences would be the destruction of Mecca. Heck, some people would probably pay to see the movie AGAIN just to be able to witness THAT scene again!
Regarding Canada's higher-than-America's percentage casualty rate in Afghanistan: well, my attitude on THAT is that the fact that America allows Canadian citizens to get life-saving or life-prolonging treatment in OUR hospitals that Canadians WOULDN'T get in their OWN nation's glorious health-care system that THEY THEMSELVES voted to impose MORE than offsets whatever Canadian military blood is being shed in Afghanistan. And as I said before, Canada is a NATO member, and therefore sworn to treat an attack on ANY other NATO member as an attack on itself. So, for that matter, are the European nations which are signatories to that accord.
If Canada and the Europeans believe that an attack on America is strictly America's own problem, I say, fine, then let's dissolve NATO once and for all and end the charade.
If, say, Toronto but no other Western target was hit with a WMD that came from a foreign nation, the NATO accord says it's just as much an attack on America and all the European members as it was on Canada - and just as much all of these nations' responsibility to respond to it militarily as Canada's. |
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Dude. Where do you get your Acid? It must be potent stuff! |
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Did anyone see Larry David urinate on a picture of Christ on his TV show?
Imagine a Christian "comedian" urinating on a picture of the Wailing Wall or the map of Israel.
Has anyone heard on any Jewish Rabbis' criticizing Larry David for his actions?
Neither have I.
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Yes, "gravitational alterations" (lets hope haven't 0 gs places on "ramdom objects to even flote or levitate or something" along unusual earthquakes having masses suddently elevated and creating tsunamies, ... lets hope there are no "unusual activations" of plant-human-doorways, stargates, timetunnels, or stuffs, and if so as usual for the ancient world, then, lets pray to god to hus with creatures of light, creation beings... or something...
I mean... terrorists (less than 30% of Islamics with bombs mostly from ayatoland, cuba-neolibgov copies like hamas, etc, are "the noisyer version of acorn or aclu, etc. in a few eyer$"... while the enemy "legaly can have and enjoy their czar-style of political "LEADER to hell", "UN,OAS, govs", everything allow them to even feel proud of their dictatorstyle or "touch" like the (public money gov) war on Foxnews, while "legaly recognize like cartes's dictatorships, global, or "Islamicaly", to "accept and suffer along their population their "inquisition" "periods") mostly from radical ENEMIES of the Holly nation Israel (in and out America), enemies of (last night election's people of ) The USA, the anti-Bush neolib, the source of the "whys" the enemy gets what they want from the USA, UN, etc... |
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gov for the enemy of civilization, the enemy of Democracy, Liberty, Freecapitalism, not bailedout govcapitalism, wich is a kind of globalized socialist rambo capitalism, an enemy helper action for political MOMENTARY ACHIEVEMENTS (blame Bush, no oil no nuke powers, oil+nukes+"legal recognizion of ayatoland and grren light job to their sweared armageddon, everybody's armageddon, Gitmo, waterboarding, Iraq, now Afganistan, etc.)
yes bho, this is for "all of my" bosses and the suffering you, ted and the rest of the plage used to enjoy for "your" "enemies" or the people who don't believe you, and "I don't know the psyco-stress you learn from imbecile ted palpatine to enjoy as hell, to "need" to feel succes, what the 'world" of you, an evolutional ape in "the other world" you kill to denie, instead, as me, and the people of "my" world: a son or daughter of Addam on Eden's paradises... how can't you believe this? |
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In all likelihood, pretty much the only people who come to THIS site who would have seen Larry David urinating on a picture of Christ on his HBO TV show would be the lib trolls. I'd bet that at most VERY FEW of the conservatives who come here would watch a show like his.
Frankly, I wouldn't even have KNOWN about it if I hadn't seen an item about it on TownHall a few days ago. In fact, until I saw that article, if someone had mentioned the name Larry David to me and asked me who he was, I wouldn't even have known. That kind of gives you an idea of how much I watch the same type of programming that your typical lib troll who comes here watches. I'm sure with most conservatives who come here, this would be THEIR story as well.
I'm not even sure that most RABBIS even know who Larry David is. And whether they do or not, although I'm a conservative Christian, I'm not faulting them for not issuing a denunciation of David's conduct on that HBO show. If I had to bet the farm one way or the other, I'd bet it that David is an ATHEIST/AGNOSTIC instead of being a PRACTICING Jew. I doubt he has any more use for the Torah, the Talmud, and the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob than he does for the Bible and Jesus. Wouldn't even be surprised in the slightest if David has never even SET FOOT in a synagogue in his life. So I'm not going to generalize that his antic on his HBO show is a reflection of Jews as a whole. Of ATHEISTIC/AGNOSTIC ones, probably, but not PRACTICING Jews - and I hardly think that any Jewish rabbis should feel personal responsibility for the deeds of an atheist/agnostic REGARDLESS of his ethnicity/lineage. |
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I know why bho is not the kind of the mayority of neather, USA, (why is ayatoland receiving so huge benefits from the "new reality usagov", "greenlight to armageddon, all armageddons?) nor a NON-ayatola, UNSaddam, etc... Muslim faight country:
The nation, feel pity for a nation whith a "leader" who's art is an (a lot of presidents, even copied Bush, still for polls "talking of the war") art of patches and imitating politicaly correct gestures"... no oil, no nuke energy, and "by jurassicneolibcongress" "legal" "dependence" from the enemy"s energy?, and bho, you still insisting us to believe you?, another chavez, another castro, another 3rdworld bad acorn?...
Neolib can't understand from here because of the Celestial nature of THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN neolibs, terrorists, communists, socialists, globalwarmings.... etc, they even recieve noVelprizes, govmoney, cityinfo, acorn, aclu,etc. resources against PEOPLE LIKE "ME" on any religion, like any Israel recognized Islam, as it should be as a religion of A prophet, not the Son of God or something...
my family, my jobs, the USA, wont stop even the dayly psyco-tortures, ahsan, bho strategist's parapolitical parafamily?, more of your crap to spread over your enemies?, and miamidade doctors, judges, police, gangs, "private Eyers", every day?!!!, and your frakin neolib world being blown off the face of the earth????
to ignore that, like you?, can you? that AMAZING GRACE?
no bho, you won't escape your place in history, along with the enemy's. |
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You never heard of Larry David?
Anyone who has ever watched a Seinfeld show knows who he is. So he is hardly obscure.
Actually I agree with you that David is probably an agonistic. But far too many (not all ) secular Jews have a "religion" and that is the bashing of Christians with a special emphasis on Catholics.
As for Jewish rabbis' not speaking up I can assure you Catholic Priests who have rushed to defend Judaism if the situation was reversed. |
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That's right, believe it or not, I've never seen the Seinfeld show in anything more than very infrequent snippets, so Larry David's name meant nothing to me until I saw the item on TownHall a few days ago mentioning his HBO antic. In fact, I've almost totally eschewed the prime-time programming of the Big 3, except for the occasional major sporting event, for pretty much the last 25 years.
As I said before, it gives you an idea of how much my TV viewing habits have in common with those of your typical liberal troll.
To me, I don't regard a Jewish rabbi as having any more shared responsibility for the outrage of an atheistic/agnostic Jew than an Irish Catholic priest shares responsibility for the outrage of an atheistic/agnostic Irishman.
Trust me on this, because I've seen this first-hand, Jews who are reasonably serious about their faith and staunch supporters of Israel actually APPRECIATE the Christian Right a lot more than you may realize, because they KNOW that conservative Christians today are about the best friends Israel still has left in the United States. |
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on this moron Roland Emmerich will be that "2012" will be his "Heaven's Gate." We'll probably see no more of Emmerich after this debacle than we did Michael Cimino after his. He'll wish he had a fatwa on him, just to keep his name in the papers like Salmon Rushdie. So long Roland - back to Mentos commercials for you, you poltroon. |
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Director Roland Emmerich hates organized religion and used CGI to simulate destruction of Christian landmarks?
This is extremely ignorant. His IQ is his underwear size. The Christian church is not a building the Christian church is people. The Messiah himself said in Gospel of Saint Mark "Do you see all these great buildings?" replied Jesus. "Not one stone here will be left on another; every one will be thrown down." Then he said to the ruling authorities about his body "Jesus answered them, "Destroy this temple, and I will raise it again in three days." Though they were too dimwitted to understand this.
So they mocked Jesus and his answer and then Jesus warned his disciples about Roland Emmerich in the book of Matthew chapter 24. |
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I agree it is a double standard, if you're going to destroy the world, don't spare the molsem icons if your're going to destroy all other religious icons and buildings. Screw islam and the moslems and the camels they ride in on. Who cares about their d@mn fatwas, they are silly anyway? They get a hemmoroid, get ticked off, and declare a jihad on their cornholes. Its just a backward, goofy-a$$ religion. |
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Why, I'm SURPRISED!
Someone coming onto this blog who didn't know who you were and reading your 8:33pm post might almost think that you're a - GASP! - CONSERVATIVE!
Scary, isn't it? |
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I'm actually what might be considered conservative on a number of issues. I am anti-illegal immigration, for a strong defense, against the moslem jihadi threat, and pro-capitalism. I'm mixed about abortion, on one hand it can be very selfish and murderous, yet on the other hand, there are so many unwanted and unloved children in this world, yet so few who can or will adopt these unwanted kids. There are probably only a few things we part company on. I even voted Republican the first time last year and voted for McCain as I detest Obama. |
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SallenG
Welcome, and read these threads to learn the total depravity of the leftist mind.
Here on town hall you will read the most insane and stupid liberal posts ever sh1t out of a human mind! I find it amusing to read how low a human can go and am yet surprised to see a new low every day. This is fun. Read and learn how the libs are totally depraved of common human decency. I know you will learn well here! |
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The only reason why Emmerich didn't destroy Muslim holy sites is because he was afraid of retaliation. So, let's get this straight - Roland Emmerich hates "organized" religion so he has a field day destroying Christian sites in his new movie. But he's afraid that some radical Muslim group will put a price on his head if he destroys Islamic holy sites.
What a wuss and a hypocrite. He hates Christians and yet all he will get is letters and emails stating that they don't like what he has done. Sure, he may get some hate mail from a few hot heads. But the radical Muslims will kill him if he does anything to disrespect them.
So let's get this straight one more time - he will protect a religion of hate in his movies because they will come after him if he blows up Mecca. But it's OK to destroy Christian holy sites in his movie even though they won't do anything violent to him.
OK - I think I've got it now. Emmerich is an idiot. |
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Kath writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 12:47 AM
Emmerich is a Wuss
The only reason why Emmerich didn't destroy Muslim holy sites is because he was afraid of retaliation. So, let's get this straight - Roland Emmerich hates "organized" religion so he has a field day destroying Christian sites in his new movie. But he's afraid that some radical Muslim group will put a price on his head if he destroys Islamic holy sites.
What a wuss and a hypocrite. He hates Christians and yet all he will get is letters and emails stating that they don't like what he has done. Sure, he may get some hate mail from a few hot heads. But the radical Muslims will kill him if he does anything to disrespect them.
So let's get this straight one more time - he will protect a religion of hate in his movies because they will come after him if he blows up Mecca. But it's OK to destroy Christian holy sites in his movie even though they won't do anything violent to him.
OK - I think I've got it now. Emmerich is an idiot.
Arch says
All libs are wusses. They are afraid of Islam! They know they will be genocided if Islam gets the majority in our nation. They also know that conservatives will pull their as$es out of the fire when liberty and freedom are threatened!
Ever notice how they are anti military yet depend upon it to live their sick and twisted lifestyle? |
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Do what the left (ACORN) does. Disgrace the guy with harrassment ... post pics of him, find his home and hang out as paparazzi ... follow him everywhere and call him a coward.
Hit Hollywood where it hurts ... in the pocketbook. Sure it hurts the small guys in the "unions" who hold microphone poles for $30/hr and get health insurance to take care of their aching arms .... don't submit yourself to the organized movie scam.
Don't rent their movies, don't go see them at the theaters. Write the sponsors of your local networks to let them know.
It often works for the left, it can work here too! |
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Most of the time you get a lame excuse that it's because we want to respect the sensitivities of the Muslims. Emmerich makes it pretty clear that he just doesn't want to get a fatwa like anyone else that takes on Islam. For that I congratulate him. And FYI, the idea of the Vatican collapsing in on itself sent a thrill up my leg. |
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"My theory on the far left's hatred of Christianity is that they really fear the god of Islam and despise the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob. The Muslim god of Jihad is capricious and predictably demanding to the point of carrying out Jihad against the unbeliever and treating women and children as chattel and pieces of meat to be used to even shield themselves during war), while the Judeo-Christian God is loving, reaching out and gracious. "
Me- Um, guy, Muslims and Christians believe in the same capricious, misogynistic, baby-murdering God. Muslims hold Abraham, Isaac and Jacob as patriarchs of their faith, just like Christians do. Muslims even believe in Jesus, they just think he was a prophet, not a God. |
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