Sunday, October 26, 2008
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Sarah Palin for President
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Posted by:
Matt Lewis at
4:09 PM
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Three short years ago, I sat in a meeting of conservatives, listening to Republican leaders, such as Newt Gingrich and Karl Rove, speak of a "permanent Republican majority."
Today, conventional wisdom is exactly the opposite. In fact, the nearly unanimous opinion among intellectuals is that the conservative movement is effectively over. That it is behind the times. Of course, they don't explain how a philosophy that owes much to Edmund Burke -- who died more than 200 years ago -- was perfectly in sync with the zeitgeist just four years ago -- but today -- is woefully out-dated. We are not supposed to ask such questions. My response would be that we have gotten in trouble precisely because we have strayed from those conservative principles, but that's not the focus of this essay ...
The notion being advanced today (without ever actually saying it, of course) is that we are entering an era which could be described as a permanent liberal majority. My guess is that this is hubris; just as a victory in 2004 did not mean a permanent Republican majority, it is equally premature to assume that a victory -- which hasn't even happened, yet -- means the paradigm has irrevocably shifted leftward. Still, all the "smart" people say it is so.
So how should we respond? ... Instead of drinking the Obama Kool-Aid, we should all take a lesson from sports, where great coaches such as Joe Torre, for example, consistently preach to their team that, "you're never as good as you look when you win and you're never as bad as you look when you lose". This common-sense admonition prevents both egotism and lack of confidence -- but it's also true. People are rarely as good as they look when they win, and likewise, are rarely as bad as they look when they are losing.
Of course, there are logical reasons for the tough environment we are in. For one thing, it is uncommon for any political party to win three consecutive presidential elections. And another obvious reason is that George W. Bush has become a very unpopular president, simultaneously offending many liberals and conservatives (for different reasons). I will avoid to engaging in the debate over whether or not Bush's failure was that he was too liberal or too conservative. The main point here is that we have an unpopular incumbent president, which is obviously a drag on Republican candidates this year.
To be sure, these are both simplistic explanations for the current mood of the nation (one could write an entire book on the topic), but the point is that there are specific reasons why this should be a Democratic year. And while it is a tough time for conservatives, we should take comfort in knowing that there are legitimate reasons this is a tough year.
But too many members of the opinion elite are ignoring these specific reasons, and instead, arguing that the country has fundamentally changed. The only solution, they say, is for conservatives to "modernize" -- which, of course, is really just a fancy way of saying we should abandon our fundamental principles. They are making the same mistake some Republican leaders made in 2005: they are success today with a mandate for the future. That's not necessarily the case. It's most likely wishful thinking...
The liberals would love to have you believe that in just four short years, all those SUV-driving, Hank Jr.-listening, gun and religion "clingers" have become all "sophisticated" and have moved to the city to drown their sorrows in lattes. (And if you're still one of those conservative yokels, well, you've been left behind). This notion, of course, is absurd. The media caricatured the voters who elected Bush to begin with, and now they are going to the opposite extreme.
Besides, for every argument you could make that Americans are becoming more liberal and urban (and urbane), I can point to studies demonstrating that religious conservatives have more children (while liberals have fewer children, and sometimes abort them) -- and that North Eastern cities are losing population while suburbia is gaining population. But even if the trend were toward liberalism, the notion that it would occur in four short years is laughable (of course, aside from making this argument, they also point to demographic changes and more young people voting as proof America has changed.)
In short, it is clear that specific instances -- not a paradigm shift -- are responsible for the current mood of the nation. So don't be depressed. And don't abandon your philosophy. Things aren't as bad as the media would have you believe.
Which brings me to my main point ...
Should John McCain fail to win the presidency next week, it would be a mistake to assume that Sarah Palin's conservative philosophy and folksy style are no longer winning traits. (McCain can still win, but mathematically, winning will require running the "electoral" table).
First, though, I should address the elephant in the room: Palin was a tremendous asset to the ticket, and McCain was doing very well (considering the environment) until the economic crisis became the focus of this election. Claims that Palin doomed the ticket are patently false. The argument that she negated the experience argument ignores the fact that the experience argument never works. Regardless, it is clear her selection helped McCain take a brief lead in the polls, until the economic news broke.
She is not without her faults. To be sure, Palin lacks some vital knowledge (which can and will be learned). This, of course, was to be expected. Obama had two years to ramp-up, while Palin was effectively air-dropped into the middle of a campaign. Still, if you look at the chronology of events involving Palin, she has had many more successes than failures. Palin gave a great announcement speech, a great convention speech, a series of poor-to-mediocre interviews, and then a very good debate performance. In my estimation, the Palin's media roll-out (not the announcement or the convention) was mishandled, and the blame there goes to the McCain campaign. Regardless, three of the four "big" events she was called upon to participate in were successes. Two of them were dramatic successes.
Losing next week would surely have negative consequences. The Supreme Court picks, alone, are reason enough to be concerned. (And losing is anything but a foregone conclusion.) Still, it is important to establish that a loss next week would not be an indication that America has fundamentally changed or that we are now living in "Obamaland." If history is any indicator, liberals will over-reach, and conservatives will make a comeback.
Sarah Palin will likely be a big part of this comeback. Conservatism isn't dead, so her philosophy will resonate into the future. And while, post-Bush, folksy plays poorly, it might be surprisingly refreshing after a few years of Obama. Don't be surprised to see a wiser, more prepared, Sarah Palin knocking-the-socks-off of everyone in the future.
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Go Look At Reagans Landslide, your Obama didn't not win by a landslide, a landslide means he took all the votes, he didn't!
So quit your lying to these people and to yourself.
We have accepted we lost, but that doesn't mean we will shut up like you would like! We live in the United States Dork, not in Cuba, Venezula, or under the rule of Odinga of Africa!
Win or Lose we didn't lose our voice.
LOL you guys are so afraid of GOD, that is hilarious!
Easier to say we believe in a big bang, you believe you came from apes, than to accept reality!
If it scares you then GOOD! It should!
This too you will find out is FACT!
Your thinking is your scapegoat for being unruly, immoral, disrespectful, lack of accepting responsibility for your actions, and you are raising gang banger drug using baby killers, you are making your children into brain dead Non Viable Humans.
You are a sad sad bunch! |
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PRESIDENT Obama won in a LANDSLIDE to mccain's pathetic number of electoral votes. Obama won popular vote too!
you know what that say? that america doesnt agree with your ultra right wing, facist, religULOUS bible thumping "ideals".
we dont want a VP with ZERO experience in ANYTHING - who believes in censorship, creationism, anti-environment and animal rights and COMBINING chuch and state!
it SCARES THE DAYLIGHTS OUT OF PEOPLE!
thats why they came out in droves to vote against completely illogical people like yourself and your fembot Palin! |
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Keep this moving quickly...
PBS has an online poll posted, asking if Sarah Palin is qualified.
Apparently, the left wing knew about this in advance and are flooding the voting with ‘NO’ votes.
The poll will be reported on PBS and picked up by mainstream media. It can influence undecided voters in swing states.
Please takes 20 seconds.
Click on link and vote
Here's the link:
http://www.pbs.org/now/polls/poll-435.html
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for Palin in a few days. That will tell us a lot more about her appeal than "shout outs" from her natural base. You can't simply dismiss voters who don't like Palin because if there's enough of them, she can not win the presidency. She needs to figure out how to draw her skeptics in if she wants a future in politics. |
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The people who seem to dislike Palin are ugly, jealous, liberal women and losers married to or dating ugly, jealous, liberal women.
Libs are really threatened by strong, conservative women. Go buy some carbon credits you losers!
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Palin is going to be the next vice president and the first woman president. I know too many moderate dems who are now saying they are voting for McCain.
And William, I assume you are young because you are very naive, Change and hope are empty words. Hitler, Marx, Castro, ....... they all were agents of "change." I for one, and I speak for millions, do not want this nation to change from its basic fundamental principles of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. I don't want even more intrusion of the federal government over my life and I don't want my rights as a citizen as prescribed in the constitution to be eroded.
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I don't know if this matters to anybody else here, but Sarah Palin is a creationist - she believes that the earth is 6,000 years old and that the dinosaurs never existed. In spite of all the accumulated evidence. That’s really dumb. Sarah is dumb. And she wants power.
The Bible was written when everybody knew that the earth was the center of the universe. We now know its not. Could there be other errors as well?
The Bible gave us the witch trials and burnings, the Inquisition, the Crusades. It gives us license to own slaves. It is misogynist and homophobic. Racist and nationalistic. The historical Judeo/Islamic/Christian god has killed millions of innocents and threatens to kill more. The Book Of Revelations calls for the end times and Sarah would like to see that happen because then she could go up to heaven in the Rapture while all the non believers – the majority of the world’s population, including me – burn.
Sarah Palin is dangerous.
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She will be a great president some day. |
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"[A true Conservative?] is someone who will fight to stop illegals from entering this country and, no matter how many there are in this country, work to deport all illegals who are currently here. ... are true Conservatives are Ronald Reagan, Fred Thompson and Sarah Palin."
Palin has come out in favor of a "path to citizenship" for illegals. |
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The reason why we do not have a Republican majority and why I am no longer a Republican but an Independent is because there are few, if any, true Conservatives in the Republican party.
What is a true Conservative? To me, he is someone who strongly believes in this country. He is someone who supports a strong military to defend this country against its enemies. He is someone who will fight to stop illegals from entering this country and, no matter how many there are in this country, work to deport all illegals who are currently here. He opposes abortion and same sex marriage and had strong Judeo-Christian beliefs. He puts America first and people before animals. He does not believe in Polictal Correctness and will fight to end it so he can feel safe if he calls a spade a spade without worrying that if he uses the wrong term he could either go to jail or lose his job. That is what a true Conservative is to me.
In the past thirty years the only people in politics whom I would say are true Conservatives are Ronald Reagan, Fred Thompson and Sarah Palin. And that's it! Not Newt. Not either Bush. Not John McCain. Not any of the other idiots who ran for President as Republicans.
I wish Sarah Palin were the GOP candidate this year instead of John McCain. I would vote for her without hesitation. She'd make a better president than that phoney-baloney Barack Obama. But that's not really saying much. The chair I am sitting in would make a better President than Barack Obama. |
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lets be real folks-the real snowjob has been convincing people that executives have some special intelligence or education that makes them uniquely qualified for the job.you could take the average,reasonably intelligent high school graduate off the street and they would do just as well as most executives.i mean dubya ran 2 or 3 companies into the ground before he drove the country into a ditch.anyone could have done that. |
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Sarah Palin is more accomplished that the charletan being sold to us my the MSM. You Kool-Aide drinkers are being taken for a ride. Obama will be an absolute JOKE president.....4 years and he'll be footnote in history.
GO SARAH!!!! |
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pessimistic. McCain and Palin WILL win next week. |
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How else do you explain all the comments. These stories on Palin are deliberately posted because this website knows it will generate a huge response. They are pressing our buttons and I don't mind a bit. I can't get enough news on her.
She is exciting because I see in her normal life the values that are important to me. I don't care if she stubbles over the name of the Iranian President, but I do care about her views on a Supreme Court appointment. I don't care if she pauses to remember the size of the economy, but I do care about her views on the size of government.
She is great. She will not disappear because she stands for something. More than what I can say about her running mate. |
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I'm just waiting for the gum to pop out of her mouth next time she sez that.
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It plays well to groupies like Rich Lowry and Rush Limbaugh and Laura Ingraham.
The rest of America isn't falling for her nudge nudge wink wink. See, she's a big reason McCain will lose. Not that you will ever understand. Wink! |
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"And while, post-Bush, folksy plays poorly"
Bush's style wasn't folksy - it was "Texan" which (no disrespect meant) has never played well outside of Texas. Especially when people suspect it's Texas by way of Yale and your family's compound in Maine.
Palin is folksy - it's not a style, it's real. And it plays well. |
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That "dagger in the hearts of Democrats" just got your Republican a-ses kicked out on the street.
What planet do you live on? The one where Custer won -- like Errol Flynn?
Oh well, enjoy this week. It is your last foothold on Fantasy Island. |
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bob,
I think you are wasting your time answering him my friend. I think all logic and tolerance went from him years ago. And of course knowledge of other peoples was probably never there in the first place! ;-) |
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Well first of all its a small L in ldopas, which is a shortening of ldopamine. However from the level of your logic and debate I didnt expect you might know that.
What I am surprised at is a person like you can live for 70 years and fail to learn and accumulate knowledge, and just fall back on ranting and bigotry.
Yes muslims as do ALL races, including white americans, protest. that is the right of a free country.
But, I suspect that you would be happy to round them, gay people and anyone who you believe whats written about them by the nutjob extremists (of both sides) and imprison them. Waffen-SS style. No? |
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"I guess you ignore the Muslims in your street with their hate signs?"
The only Muslim on our street is a Marine, works in the Pentagon. He makes us crazy: has a big hulking snow blower, does all our driveways whenever it snows before we're even awake. Won't take anything in return. |
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And a Democratic Congress and Senate in charge....An expanding economy, low unemployment, and the American people decided they wanted Dems...look what you got....your list is a dagger at the heart of the Democratic party. |
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If McCain loses, and he might as we see it now, who are the Pubs who are Center Right on the bench that could challenge the socialist pacifist Left as BHO ruins our democratic capitalistic free enterprise system? Well, Palin, Bobby Jindal, Mike Pence, Eric Cantor, perhaps John Thune. Though Senators do not make the best candidates. Guvs do. Perhaps Jim DeMint, and note I leave out the Huck or Romney. They have run their line and could not even knock out a moderate conserv who was a RINO on many issues as ole John was. So , will the conserv brand be renewed with some solid 4-5 issues which will fight the socialism of a new Administration? |
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I guess you ignore the Muslims in your street with their hate signs? You must be kin to Munck. |
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Lauragin 1:25 PM
"I don't realize anything, other than the Major Majority of Muslims worldwide hate Westerners! Want to kill us!"
Says it all.
IT SURE DOES, TOO BAD YOU'RE TOO FREAKING STUPID TO REALIZE IT.
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"I don't realize anything, other than the Major Majority of Muslims worldwide hate Westerners! Want to kill us!"
Says it all. |
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Don't be silly, the McCain aids are all aflutter about the Rogue Diva and her self-promoting for 2012. Of COURSE she's running for Prez, and if she has her way, she'll poke high-heeled holes in McCain's decrepit body walking all over him in her quest to abuse power in the WH, like her hero Bush. |
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Yeah, I don't believe so, wingnut. Palin doesn't have that much of a grasp on anything outside of Wasilla, and given her ties to Alaskan secessionists, the Third Wave and abuse of power shenanigans, there is too much there to grant the woman the benefit of the doubt. She is one dumb, scary broad - and she is supported, idolized and worshipped by an even scarier, even dumber mob of pack mentality mooks. |
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Sarah isn't running for president.
A little more charity on this blog wouldn't hurt any of us! |
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Just read you last post.
Its actually you the free world has to be afraid of, not Muslims.
Your quick and unjustified rage it probably a facet of the amount of guns you have to "defend yourself", a hatred of anyone who's lifestyle you dont approve of while shouting on about "freedom for all" and I suspect the view of the world learnt by never having traveeled anywhere except the next state.
You are the real scarey one.
I await the raging rant at me with bored predictability. |
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it will more than likely be largely due to voter fraud, expressly bought and paid for by the evil MSM and Obama Campaign funds; and were I John Mc Cain, I would have my lawyers all over them like white on rice the second the announcement was made.
Cheating in a Presidential election should not be toloerated in this country, period. And I would hope the American people would have the balls to scream bloody murder and march in the streets in protest from one end of this country to the next. Time for a revolt and I'll lead the charge at 70 years young, bad sciatic, bad feet, arthritis and all. |
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Please please do elect Palin.
Not only will it give us in Europe, Asia and Russia a huge comedic gift.
But with here complete lack of knowledge of the world and the naivety that comes with it, plus of course the dark ages old biblical of life and liberty, it will sound the knell for your power in the world.
Alternatively you could vote smart people in like Obama, and we have to deal and negotiate with an intelligent superpower.
You choice Obama (Book Smart) or Palin (Get Smart) |
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I don't realize anything, other than the Major Majority of Muslims worldwide hate Westerners! Want to kill us! Deal with it. And your hot sh!it on a stick, Obama is in thick with them. You just have a sick "love/idolatry" relationship with him and couldn't see his faults if he hit you upside the head with them himself. You are to be pitied because ignorance like yours is truly a sad thing to see. |
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"Sarah Palin, like John McCain is “American Original”…The impressions of a lifetime record summed up by a word: GRIT..."
You need to use a spell checker; that word should not have an "R" in it. |
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"you do not even have anecdotal evidence to support your garbage accusations."
YOUR OWN WORDS are evidence. Read the things you write; the hatred is manifest.
I suppose it's possible that you can't recognize your own hatred because you swim in it and are surrounded by it every day. A moral blindness. |
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more like Cuba, North Korea, Zimbabwe, PRC, Venezuela, etc...
Your long-winded response shows either you have good cut-and-paste skills or poor communication skills.
This was an easy one. |
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In a speech in Des Moines, Iowa, on Saturday, Republican Vice Presidential candidate Sarah Palin told the crowd that an Obama presidency would present the specter of a socialist state in which fundamental American freedoms are undermined.
Does Sarah mean a state:
That snatches its victims off the street, denies them all form of legal process and whisks them away to secret “blacksites” where they can be tortured using all the techniques described in Arthur Koestler’s Darkness at Noon?
That arrests and prosecutes its political adversaries for imaginary crimes so as to eliminate them from the running in election cycles in which they could do some damage?
That destroys the careers of professional military men because they got promotions under a prior regime and therefore considers them disloyal?
That believes it can detain and hold its enemies forever without any charges or any evidence against them, denying them access to courts to prove their innocence?
That constantly manipulates the population’s fear whenever its public popularity slips and elections begin to approach?
That believes that it can make no errors, and that those who point to its errors are traitors?
That systematically spies on millions of its citizens in direct violation of a criminal statute which forbids such surveillance?
That signs new laws with its fingers crossed in the form of signing statements, so that no one knows whether the laws—or any part of them—will actually be enforced?
That lies to its people about threats from abroad in an effort to build popular support for a series of wars and then cites the existence of those wars as a reason to suppress dissent?
That nationalizes the debt of predatory capitalists so they suffer no punishment for their misconduct and then nationalizes major financial institutions, converting the nation’s free market system into a socialism in which crony capitalists are a privileged elite?
Sarah, you have no need to fear the future.
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Palin’s fanatical "Third Wave" End Times religious beliefs that promote her as a "prayer warrior" destined to take over the U.S. government to turn America into a Christian nation in which the non-believers will be shown the door. Not to mention that Palin has had a minister personally lay hands on her to protect her from witch doctors, has sat through a "Jews for Jesus" presentation in which the speaker espoused an "Elders of Zion" conspiracy theory about Jews, and proclaimed that the Iraq War is divinely inspired. And that’s just for starters. |
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you do not even have anecdotal evidence to support your garbage accusations. That is why I believe Obama is talking about the muslims deciding to attack, not about the muslims being attacked. There is no indication of this type of religious bigotry in the U.S.A. You and Obama are making that crap up.
Just like the Obama campaign makes up the charges of white racism. Keep covering for him. He quite clearly has stated he will side with the muslims if the political winds shift. Right now the political winds favor Americans. If they shift, it will have to be to favor muslims. |
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Sarah Palin, like John McCain is “American Original”…The impressions of a lifetime record summed up by a word: GRIT...
“True Grit”…Those that have it and…those that do not. Those that do not understand what “True Grit” is and what it means to have “True Grit”; will do anything to discredit those that do understand, and libel those that possess it.
Regardless of which Political Party you prefer, “True Grit” is the answer…be informed. Ask yourself this simple question, “Which Candidates really have “True Grit”? Then seek your answer, but do not look to the mainstream media for your answer. These are troubling times in which we live, so look to History and its troubling times for your answer.
The United States and the next Administration are going to be faced with some major challenges both domestic and foreign. On the foreign front…a resurgent Russia, an energized China, a global economy with serious problems, to the next chapter of the turmoil in the Middle East and dealing with the Osama bin Ladens of the world. On the domestic front…energy and financial crisis that spells trouble for all Americans, taxes and spending out of control, legal and illegal immigration that continues to increase, health care and education costs rise as quality is stagnated or declining, a Judicial Branch with self-assumed powers to Legislate, entitlement programs that will bankrupt this country.
What of her liabilities? Like McCain, she makes up for, in sheer determination to do the right thing. The intellect and a values system second to none and some good old common sense; there is no decision she or McCain would make, that I could not trust and support; because they have “True Grit”! If they cannot change Washington and “Today’s Politics”; no one can. They will become the facilitators for change; however “We the People” must demand that our representatives follow their lead.
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"the only "ugly direction" related to muslims the political winds could turn is if the muslims decide to try and use force to bend America to their will."
No, Eddie, the ugly direction is typified by people like you, with attitudes like yours. It's the same attitude of intolerance that led to Kristallnacht and ethnic cleansing. It's an ugly racism, a prejudice against an entire religious group. That's what Obama is talking about, and I think both you and Lauragin realize it. |
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Get both with Obama. GOP has always said deficits don’t matter. Now we all know better.
GOBAMA! |
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This is by far one of the best and most inspiring articles I've read all year. Keep the faith guys! |
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DONT LET B.HUSSEIN TURN AMERICA INTO A CASTRO STYLE CUBA! SARAH IS ALL AMERICAN! |
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McCain among the GOP. I doubt he could beat anyone at anytime on the national stage. |
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the only "ugly direction" related to muslims the political winds could turn is if the muslims decide to try and use force to bend America to their will. At that point, anyone who stands with the muslims will receive the same fate as the muslims. |
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Lauira
What? Struck a nerve? She's been dating (by her own admission, and parents permission) since about 14.
Does the fact that she's dated since 14 (and that did not mean she even had to have been having sex ya know. My grand son has been seeing a girl since he was 14!) mean she actually slept with the entire hockey team??? Well does it?? YOu have to admit, you are off your rocker with nasty enuendos there old girl!
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I love how Sarah gets under your skin!
Yehawwwwwwww!
Go Sarah, you are ticking off 2 cents!!!
Vote Mccain/Palin!!
You and you dang racist remarks
You are pitiful
The only ones worried about Racism are the Dim/Libs because that is all they have to try and use against the Repub Party is to Lie.
I bet more republicans have had more personal relationships with minorities than any of you Libs!
By the way 2 Cents I heard Mickey Mouse is taking Obama's place in the election
HAVE YOU BOUGHT YOUR EARS YET?
LOL, YOU LIBS ARE PATHETIC! |
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you care nothing for this country .you have been exceedingly nasty about everyone but romney. romneys record killed his hopes ,people saw him as a fake conservitive and his record as gov. confirmed it .that was that so get over it .you might consider huckabee next go around ,he was head shoulders above romney in the primarys |
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I believe you are an alcoholie Liberal who just dreamed up she had 8 kids to make people feel all warm and fuzzy about you. And as far as your husband agreeing with you on voting for Obama becuase Tomney was passed over, I doubt that too because I can't see that any man would want such a black, cold, callous heart as yours.
But as far as Sarah being dumb, that's where you really show YOUR ignorance, because no one can get as far as she did without being very intelligent. And then to accuse her of an affair that no one else but you talks about, and accuse her daughter of sleeping with the entire hockey team shows me you probably are so ugly you've never been 'had'.
Your jealousy eats at you as s cancer. You are a pathetic, worthless piece of humanity. |
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What? Struck a nerve? She's been dating (by her own admission, and parents permission) since about 14. |
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Lady, you are one crazy woman. How many times has Child Protection Services knocked on your door?
That has got to be one disturbed household. The stuff Lifetime Network movies are made of.
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I love my country just as much as you do. I just do not want this dimwit in the whitehouse, unless she has bought a ticket. You can call me what you wish. But you know what? In the end, palin is still dumb as a box of rocks and Obama will win because McCain is equally as dumb not to have picked someone with braincells.
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The liberal scum won't be laughing long after their black Marxist is finished with them. With open borders and a coward in the White House,it is a guaranteed certainty nukes will be set off in the liberal cesspools of this Nation.The fat lady is about to sing. |
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I would have to
go out and spend 900 bucks on glasses made in Japan
have a wardrobe worth over 250K, including new hair, makeup and accessories
have had an affair with mr. Hanson
have had my brain removed and replaced with green jello.
I would have had to disregard ethics to solve family matters, and get back at a former bro in law.
Honestly, I can't really see what there is to be jelous of. I know many women are running out to buy things like her, and to be 'like' her. But I think the ability to think for myself is key to my life! You home schooler need to get out in the world more. You know, there's black folks there who are really nice. |
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i beg to differ you are hideous . |
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1930 and a man born to a Muslim man and a white woman and who wishes he were black, and who has ties with known radical Islam men doesn't even come close to having anything in common. Your stupidity is sticking out again. |
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your posts indicate a an ugly ,vindictive ,petty heart . no matter what you look like on the outside you are hideous on the inside . |
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They are both bimbo's. Not two braincells between them. check it out yourself. Try to have a conversation with either, and you'll be wanting a drink. One does not go on 'survivor' as the biggest feather in your acting cap and expect us to take you seriously. As far as Palin goes... take a gander at her 5 or 6 colleges to get one easy degree. Guess her parents threatened to cut her off if she did not graduate from something! But she did manage to get knocked up just before she had to elope to avoid embarrassment. Put that woman on a pedestal! She (like most women) did not abort! Whoo hoo. Palin reminds me of those evangalists on TV who Praise the Lord! But don't get caught! (her tidy little affair with Hanson. Is Pepper really Todds? Hummmmm.)
Since I avoid watching daytime TV, I don't spend a lot of time watching soaps and 'the view'. I do have better things to do, like be a mom.
And sorry my last post was in error. hit the submit button to early. Navy 78-98. Degree's. Bach and Masters. Kids are at my knees. |
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Sorry bub, but i'm hardly ugly! Not jelous in the least. Have my degree(s) (not plural) from just two universities. I'm former Navy gal. (some call that a career 78-88). I had a second career in the private sector. I'm a mom now with a bunch of kids. I have special needs kids too. I'm married to an awesome man who has a REAL JOB/CAREER. My daughers do not date until age 16. And then, they are not allowed to have a steady boyfriend until 18. They dress modestly - not like a hooker on crack - and they go to church every Sunday with the family. They go to Seminary classes every day. during the week, they go to young woman's activities. They are not sleeping the the hockey team. I'm home when they get home from school. I know what they are doing, and where they are. It's a mom thing.
I've never entered a beauty pagent, it's true. Not because I'm not pretty enough, but because I did not need a studio audience to validate my beauty. I got my scholorships on brains. It's better that way.
I don't like Palin for a number of reasons. She's not intelligent. She is not an example. She has cheated on her husband (with hanson). Bigotry is OK with her. Her ethics have something to be desired. She's not smart enough to be president, vice president, dog catcher, rain dancer.
She also lies a lot. Can't trust her, don't want her, and you can move to Alaksa and await the second comming with her, if you want. As for me and my family? We'll hang here in the lower 48 and work for a better, less bigoted GOP party.
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In the first case, you do what most partisans do, which is ignore the fact that the GOP and Democrats have shared the power for the last 28 years. As such, you make an assertion, for example, that the Democrats are responsible for F&F, but do not also point to the culpability of the GOP. When McCain tried to make a change in 2005, after all, the GOP controlled the Senate and had 55 votes, but he could only get 19 Republicans to support his legislation. The other 36 did not. And that, not the Democrats, is why Frist did not bring it to the floor for a vote. Further, Delay and Hastert in the house never even bothered to try to get a similar bill out of committee, because they also didn't have enought GOP votes to support it. And in the house, the GOP didn't even have the excuse of the filibuster. The bottom line is that the GOP had control of the House, Senate and Presidency from 2001 to 2006, yet never did make the reform of F&F a party issue. If you look at many issues, you see the same thing. All you have to do is count the votes - all of them. With few exceptions, the GOP, from 2000 to 2006 rarely forced its senators or congresspeople to take a stand on critical issues. Instead, it allowed them to vote however they wanted, and that meant that significant numbers did not vote a conservative line.
And that's the problem - is it not. The GOP has as many non-conservative Senators and Congresspeople as conservative ones. Many of those - like the Democrats - did not want to take princpalled and conservative stands. And this is why the GOP has the problems in has. It is not a conservative party. It is simply a slightly right of center party. Big difference. |
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WE thinking americans who belive in freedom of RELIGION and vote for the man/woman, NOT based on where her butt is parked on Sunday's. We don't want Palin anywhere near the buttons. She's NOT an example of motherhood, applepie, etc. She's an opportunist who needs to be back tending the family that is crying out for a mom. Knocked up teen daughter who was allowed to date at 14? Special needs kid? WE DON'T NEED YOU. Your family does. The sooner she understands that, the better for everyone.
Keep this uncompentent out of national politics. I will work endlessly to keep her up in Alaska, and away fromt he rest of us. Want her? move up there. Maybe the second comming will occure in Wassilla, but I would not count on it. |
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...for the day she runs for President. My family, friends, and I will volunteer and get every minority I know to vote for her.
That would be the first time we ever do that for any candidate. |
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Regardless of what happens on Nov. 4, enough Americans still get it. The pendulum will swing in the right direction sooner or later. Some are placing a lot of stock in congressional elections this year as the hope for some Republican gains, despite what polls say. The liberral, intellectual, elitist, illuminati crowd does not rule. |
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Vote for a Hero that cares about this country and AMERICANS!
Don't Vote for Someone who Loves only Himself and His associations!
Vote for somebody who wants to keep this Country Free Of Socialism
Don't Vote for Somebody who desires Socialism Control
Vote For somebody who has a record of actually participating in Government
And not just Voting Present!
Don't for somebody who didn't show up or just voted Present.
Vote for someone who cares about the American Peoples Voice
Don't vote for someone who wants to Stop Free Speech,
because it isn't all positive about him.
Vote for a man who knows his country shouldn't be accused of Racism
Don't vote for someone who bases his whole strategy on Making all White Americans appear Racist
Vote for somebody who doesn't trash and kick his country to Foreign Countries
Don't vote for someone Who Chastises our Allies and Praises Our Enemies.
John Mccain is for Americans
Obama is for Obama
The continued statements by Obama about Spreading the Wealth
Being a Wealthy Nation
should be something to be Ashamed of?
His agenda isn't what Americans think it is.
Check out his Church Doctrine
His goal of changing Constitution
We don't need your Socialist Views
Your Tax Dollars won't stop in our country, he intends to be the Leader of the World with American tax dollars!
Isn't this kinda like buying China products to support their military?
We are Not Ashamed of being FREE Americans.
We Love this Country, you kick every chance you get!
Mccain/Palin 08
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I changed, I quit my job and am waiting for the communist BHO to get elected so i can get my fair shair. This rules, all I have to do is sit at home, watch tv and I will get paid. Its not my fault that some executive is making millions and all I got was $10.00 per hour, thats not fair. He has more than enough money to give to me and my family. He doesnt need that much money anyways. Who is he to have more than me? GO BHO the communist! |
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I read many of these libby comments and there is a remarkable thing I have noticed. This is for other places beside TH there is a common script. You can read them and see that there is a common author.Its like the hand picked audience that is at all Os stops. They all cheer at the same spot in the speech.Every one makes the same dumb excuse CHANGE. |
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When are you going to apologize to your readers for talking up the Ashley Todd "B on my face" hoax under the headline "Anti-McCain Hate Crime" on this very blog?
Plenty of b.s on your face, boy.
Oh I forgot. You boasted that you don't read our comments, didn't you? Too busy plotting the resurgence of the Republican Party under-- don't laugh-- Caribou Barbie, is that it?
Tell me, Matt. Is McCain with his skin cancer, or Palin, with her $25,000 of makeup, or Ms Todd the College Republican with her self-inflicted scratch the new face of the RINO?
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I LUV the internet!!! Okay Bill, I understand we think dfrntly about this election. But I bet we both agree this nation is strong enough to withstand even one most horrible administration.
We're coming off 8 horrible years and we are going to change parties next week. I know, I know, you don't want to hear it BUT IT IS TRUE. I think things are going to get better with new leadership. BUT if the next admin doesn't start to get things "better" then I'll be right next to you voting for another "change" in 2012 -- just like we need now.
Don't be associated with a party or with the "labels" these AM radio stations want to slap on you. Associate yourself with reality. Right now -- VOTE CHANGE. |
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that 2001 radio interview where obama talks about wealth redistribution may change all your plans
nobama keep the change
2cents still a petty jealous romneybitch enjoy 8 years of mcain palin |
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You are proving my point...
Dissect and sift through all the manure of the last 8 years you want. I readily admit there's the scat of poor Democratic governance in everything you'll find.
But people vote BIG PICTURE and on that you fail every course.
Don't you people EVER TAKE RESPONSIBILITY?
You were elected to lead us in 2000. You were given the reigns and gladly (even smugly) accepted them. Even your leader said he received a "mandate".
WHAT'D YOU DO WITH IT....?
Yeah -- exactly. Which is why until 2016 we are trying something else. Suck it up and live with it. |
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I am Hillary supporter for Palin....
I know she will our next President,
Democracy is for the people, of the people and by the people. We choose one of us to govern us for our betterment. sarah is a middle class woman like me and I feel linked with her. |
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You folksy folks out there in Guns n' God land had two cracks at it already and blew it both times.
Until 2016 your just gonna have to explore the new direction along with the rest of us.
We're not asking your permission. We're handing you a ticket and telling you where to sit. |
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1) Palin is through if the ticket loses. She will return to a more informed electorate in Alaska and has several issues still hanging. She has countless docummented missteps that can & will be used against her in any new campaign.
She only won by approx 8% lead.
2) the entire Conservative movement was more of a myth than a reality. What major concervative proposals are being won in their favor? I think a split could really happen in the GOP, maybe a 3rd truly conservation party? |
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"If the political winds turn in an ugly direction I will stand with the Muslims."
I think that's entirely admirable, and something that all of our politicians and all of our citizens should agree with and proclaim. We are, after all, supposed to have religious freedom in this country. Obama is expressing a quintessentially American sentiment.
It's the exact equivalent of someone saying "I will stand with the Jews" in Germany in the 1930's. |
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Is one bitter, angry woman who must be quite a looker LOL !! Can we all say the word, "jealous?" If you think Palin and Hasselbeck are bimbos then you have serious issues with women. They are both far from bimbos. Sarah is a family woman who practices what she preaches - family values. And it's time to get over that loser Romney, who should stick to conference calls in the boardroom. The guy has about as much charisma as a game show host. He really wowed them at the Convention, huh? Even the crickets didn't show up for that one..lol |
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The guy is a used car salesman who couldn't buy his way out of the primary. He's a good CEO but no one wants to elect a CEO for president. Stick to the boardroom meetings, Mitt - middle class people do not connect with you. |
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...who said Obama is qualified to be president because he "managed" a disciplined campaign? Campaign managers run campaigns, not the candidate. Obama shows up to give a speech, shake a few hands, kiss a few babies and hit the hay. Yeah, he's a great campaign manager LOL....If that's the best experience you can come up with, we are all in trouble ! lol |
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What a horrible mistake I made. I meant RNC. Sometimes my2cents makes me crazy and I type too fast. |
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Put your proof where your stupid mouth is when it comes to accusing Sarah's daughter of sleeping with the entire Hockey team? Or keep it shut. |
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You are one sick, screwed up, nasty woman, and a very sore loser. Romney would be ashamed to have you representing him because he has more character in his little finger than you do in your entire body.
And Palin would blow you off as she would lint on one of her expensive dark suts that
"THE DNC BOUGHT THAT WILL BE GIVEN TO CHARITY!"
Get yourself a stiff drink and suck it up, you phony, in-name-only Mormon! |
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Palin seen with the other bimbo, hassleback. Her job is what now? Oh yea. Shopping. Like Palin.
LOL. Can't wait until next wednesday when I get to hold up my Good riddence and exit the national stage, sign for Palin! go, take care of your knocked up UNMARRIED teenager, and your special needs kid. Try bonding with them, and actually being a mom to them. You might find that they won't come home after sleeping with the hockey team, knocked up. You might find your special needs kid to be a joy and not a photo op. Put your family first for once. They need you. WE DONT. and we rejected you. (expcept a few who think you were sent by God, in which case, they'd vote for saten himself, if he handclapped in the 'right' church'.
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William. You have some very good points on the state of our country, but you sure are off on others and on the ones who caused the problems. Get your facts straight!!!
- Our present financial crisis can be traced to the Democrats forcing the banks for years to lend to those who really couldn’t afford it or else. Presidents Carter and Clinton and the Democratic congress pushed this “affirmative action” policy over objections.
- The Democratic Congress would not heed the many calls for reform of Freddie and Fannie from Republicans and their own oversight person. The last two years they have had their own way a great deal and really screwed up. Then they blamed it all on Bush.
- This same Democratic Congress has an even lower rate of approval than President Bush
- Pelosi & Reid came up with a bailout package with little or no oversight, no clear mandate and lots of pork. Very poorly done and it hasn't helped
- Gas prices go up but the Democrats still will not drill or start any new programs to head to a solution.. When finally forced to do something, their drilling ok was for 80 miles out where there is little oil and still not drill near shore where there is a lot of oil. Way to go. Then blame it on Bush
- Congress spent like crazy and wondered why the budget went over so badly. Here I will agree Bush didn't help keep spending down either.
- Many Democrats (including Senator Clinton) signed on with Bush to go after Saddam. Many world leaders and Political Analysts agreed too. How convenient to forget. Bush was not alone.
- The Surge in Iraq is working, no thanks to many in Congress. Take your blinders off.
- President Clinton could have gotten Bin Laden but didn’t, more than once. Blame Bush instead.
So William, get your facts straight.
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Palin will be exiting stage left in about 8 days. thank GOD, this bimbo will be back in Alaska, where they can deal with her. I don't think she'll ge re-elected. Too much baggage uncovered.
Front runners, according to a very recent poll is none other than Mitt Romney.
Romney/Jindal 12. Smartest ticket ever. Leave the wardrobe and the bimbo in the tundra. let really smart leaders lead the way. |
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I'm game. Sounds like a good plan. |
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I'll check out the hotair article now.
And Lauragin, keep it up. You've got style, lady! |
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Liberal posts, and maybe they'll go away. |
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is just that. Without all the backing, free coverage, and tagging him with a Rock Star status, he would have been tossed alongside the ditch a long time ago. Palin is the better candidate by far, in every single category. I'll slap a Palin For President on my bumper any time. |
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Exactly what "change" are we supposed to "give a chance"?
Has Obama brought "change" to the Senate? Did he bring "change" to Illinois? No on both counts.
There is not a single shred of evidence that Obama has ever "changed" anything or made anything better for anyone anywhere through "change".
And you want us to let this abject tyro of "change" have a "chance" to "change" the most successful country the world has every known?
And why, william, should we give Obama the opportunity to induce an "apocalypse"? This is not a high school election for prom king, william.
And if, william, we are in an "apocalypse" now it is only because Democrats like Barack Obama and Joe Biden did not heed the warnings of Republicans like John McCain.
If Obama is such a miracle worker and master of persuasion, why didn't he use his position in the Senate to fix the financial mess before it became a crisis?
Huh, william?
Cuz, yah know, we folksy folks out here in guns 'n' God land just kinda wud like a teencie weencie reason we should give the reins of the free world over tah a totally incompetent Marxist thug -- ya know. |
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I like the blade is dull comment. Good one.
I just read an interesting article on hotair.com. It's listed under the news and titled "hmmmmmm". It's a good take on the polls from a pollster. Quite enlightening on what a real outcome could be.
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Your blade is always dull. Bye, now! |
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Are proudly displayed on my aging minivan.
Shery and Kristine, I am so glad other women are excited about the new Feminism. I never cared for the 1970's version, and felt that the pro-abortion, anti-male schtick was shoved down my throat. I don't think race is a factor in this issue. My own children are one-quarter Asian.
As a woman who always liked men and babies (as well as catching fish), I always felt alienated from the "feminist" movement. No longer. Sarah is our star!
I will never agree with the "Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus" faction. We are all from Earth, and we need to work together.
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We should dissolve the Democratic party and only have one Republican King for Life.
Oh hell -- this is like shooting fish in a barrel tonight. I'm going to head over to Hannity's board and raise some cane over there for awhile. My blade's getting dull here. |
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America needs more people like Sarah. Palin 2012
Go Sarah Go! |
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...is a great investment Kevin. I'm with you. Last week i got $435 for my Dole sticker. Hint - don't put it on your car cuz at sale time it needs to look unused (just like Palin will be). Keep it embalmed like the rest of your party. |
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-Obama is not so much the problem as are the people voting for him. Obama just happens to be their leader. For they represent a clear misalignment with American fundamentals as laid out in our founding documents.
-As for Palin, I am thankful she stormed the national political stage. Her rise is proof that the common man can do the same and does not need to be brought up in a privileged or haughty lifestyle to gain admittance to the political world. If you speak with conviction and your beliefs (which are shared by many) you can do no wrong. The rest is up to timing. Palin will likely be at the forefront of the GOP nominees in 2012.
-The country survived through 7 years of Ford and Carter and 12 years of FDR not to mention 8 years of Wilson and 4 years of Hoover to remain at the forefront of global dominance. Obama will leave a destructive trail in his wake that will take years to clean up. The damage will be repaired and America will shine brighter then before.
-For those who disagree with this post yet who find comfort in Obama's rhetoric and laments I implore you to go to the National Archives in Washington D.C. and stare at the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence before election day. Obama, in no way shape or form, represents the vanguard needed to protect our individual rights that lead to a fostering of good will and appreciation for our common man and country.
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I'm ready to slap my Palin for President on my car should McCain/Palin lose next week...
What else to keep my sane with a President Liar entrenched for 4 years?
Just the sight of that bumper sticker will give me hope we can get rid of the Socialist |
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Yes, I think there has been impact with African-American women and Hispanic women. However, in this election there are so many issues that are up for consideration. Some speak to women as the heads of their households, or women as small business owners, or women with social conservative values and of course women who are pro-choice. I think this may be why we are seeing such a rise in the independent or undecided voter segment (if you can believe these polls).
For me, the two most important issues are the reduction of government spending and national security. When I say reduction in spending, I emphasize that I would be very concerned about a 100% democrat House, Senate and White House.
All American women have to weigh the issues with the near future in mind and the ramifications of each party. It's a tough decision but again, a very exciting time for women with the possibility of Sarah Palin forging ground for all of us.
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hahaha...Don't you love all these ObamaDrones yabberin about Governor Palin?...The Democrat Party is scarred to death of her popularity.
What I find most laughable is the lack of recognition of just how tough, smart, articulate Govenor Palin obviously is..
How else does one explain going from a small town Mayor to taking on the Oil Companies and the good ole boy Alaska Network and beating them top become Govenor of Alaska....
She's a lot more experienced and accomplished than that Chicago Moron they've nominated.
We're all waiting for one of the ObamaDrones to tell us what entrenched political power Obama has ever stood up to...He's been Daley's poodle boy from day 1.. |
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Sherry & Julie, And the new feminism certainly includes all women of all races. Is Sarah appealing to women across all racial lines?
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The very fact that we met on this board means Barack or any other member of the soon-to-be-switched-out United States government will have far from a "YES Suh" constituency.
Hell, 80% of these kooks give me the impression they're ready to pack up and move to... to...
Alaska?
Let's give change a chance. If by 2012 the earth has spun off its axis and we're hurtling toward some kind of Obama-induced apocalypse (ya know, kinda like what we have now)then we'll switch it out again.
Like you said. THAT's why we vote. |
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That is such good news!
Recently, I have been asked by women whether or not they think Sarah is a feminist and I answer with "what is the definition of feminism these days?". This is a very exciting time for women because we have the opportunity to outdate the radical principles defined by feminism of the 70's and start to rewrite it based on reality of life today.
And you wonder why Sarah is getting so many women and supporters at her rallies!!!
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The idea that 'Sacrifice For The Common Good' supersedes private interests and rights can have but one meaning: that the interests and rights of some 'Collectivist Group' take precedence over the interests and rights of others.
Anyone who has ever studied Game Theory in mathmatics has heard about 'Zero Sum Theory'.
One of the things I learned in Game Theory was that 'zero sum' is an interaction in which one participant's gains result only from another's equivalent losses.
When Liberals and Democrats (collectivists) institute their solutions like 'Affirmative Action', the rights they give to the 'collectivist group' in favor, results in taking rights from others who are in dis-favor or in other words "moral equivalence".
Every United States Citizen should have the same rights and protections under the United States Constitution and Bill of Rights - no more - no less.
Liberals and Democrats believe this "moral equivalence" promotes justice and the well being of the American Citizen and displays the Liberal "moral superiority" over Conservatives.
Barack Obama's clarion call to "Sacrifice for the Common Good" - to redistribute wealth, as Obama said to 'Joe the Plumber', "letting those behind catch up".
Karl Marx's slogan, 'from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs'.
Someone explain the difference? |
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Yes! Please!
Nominate Caribou Barbie in 2012!!!! It's the best chance President-elect Obama has for certain reelection! |
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Thanks for your response. I found it interesting and informative. If you want smaller government, why would you vote for the Dems? They have been for ever expanding government since FDR and they have as much of a corruption problem as the Reps. More actually if you do a statistical study. Republicans do tend to be too cozy with big business. That's the Rockefeller wing of the Party, of which I am not a part.
I understand your position about pro-choice and the Reps - yet there are many pro-choice Republicans. I don't understand your pro-gay position. In watching the issues of gays evolve over the years, it has been clear to me that Reps/conservatives resist the gay radical agenda primarily and are not condemning them to hell. Sure there are some on the political right who openly talk this way but they get overblown MSM coverage to create the perception that all Reps/conservatives are rabidly anti-gay. My Christian teachings were about condemning the sin, not the sinner and this is what the conservatives I associate with believe and practice. The gay community generally appears to be about leftist politics and overthrowing traditional values as much as they are about gay people being treated equally before the law. That is what sets conservatives off. Think of NAMBLA as a good example.
Thanks again for your reply.
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I work for a national company with headquarters in Atlanta. I mentioned to one female department member that I had attended the Palin debate rally here in St. Louis, and she wanted to hear all about it.
Her department is almost entirely female, and she said they are all voting McCain/Palin. They are single/married/divorced women--mothers, daughters, and sisters of women like them. They are sophisticated enough to know that Obama is just a manufactured candidate.
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MATT: YOU ARE SO RIGHT. IF MCCAIN LOSES THIS ELECTION, IT WILL BE MCCAIN'S FAULT, NOT GOV. PALIN'S. I'VE BEEN READING THINGS WHERE PEOPLE WITHIN THE CAMPAIGN ARE BEING CRITICAL OF THE GOV. I BELIEVE THE MC CAIN PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE HAD THE GOV GO ON THE CONSERVATIVE TALK SHOWS (SHE WOULD HAVE LEARNED A LOT MORE THAN BEING KEPT OUT OF SIGHT AFTER THAT GREAT NOMINATION SPEECH). SHE IS REALLY "STRAIGHT TALK" & THO I RESPECT SEN MC CAIN, I THINK HE'S BEEN OFF THE STRAIGHT TALK EXPRESS SINCE THE ECONOMIC PROBLEMS CAME ABOUT. SARAH PALIN HAS GIVEN SEN MCCAIN SEVERAL CHANCES TO GET THE BASE SUPPORT. (ESP SINCE HE DOESN'T WANT TO GO ON TALK RADIO)
YES - PALIN WILL BW A NEW LEADER FOR CONSERVATIVES!
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William, I would agree with you on voting for Barack because he represents change; but voting for someone out of anger towards someone else might not be rational if not thought through. I emphasize 'might not.'
The main thing I like about our government is that it has checks and balances that prevent our rule by a tyrant which allows for some measure of rule by you and by me and other fellow citizens. Now if Barack has nothing to check him, as in a congress that is controlled by people who think exactly like him, and courts that think exactly like him, and newspapers that say nothing but yes, Barack, yes, then we get close to tyranny. Fortunately we've tended to have a balance and that allows for the American people to have a voice. If power is all in the hands of a few, our voice is weakened. |
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I am pretty sure you are right that abortion was illegal in 1961. In Hawaii and Kenya.
Thank you for focusing on common sense!
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I live in Chicago and you would be amazed at the amount of women working inside and outside of the home who are pro-Palin. You would have thought this city was dominated by democrats and liberals but when Sarah came on the scene, many women spoke up in admiration for her achievements and more important, the way she has handled herself while being eviscerated by the liberal media and those that are completely threatened by her.
She is much more of a transformational figure than Obama could ever be. Nobody created her, she is an original. |
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Al, I think you are wrong about independents. I am an independent voter. I am not an evangelical. You must not presume that if one likes Sarah, they are narrow-minded. I do not belong to a political party or a religious denomination (shock). My beliefs, I like to think, are based on observation and common sense. Deep religious faith is a fine thing if one holds it sincerely and truly and unhypocritically.
Julie isn't it wonderful for the supporters of Barack that his mother chose to bear her child. I am pretty sure that abortions were illegal (someone correct me if I'm wrong) in 1961, but if they were not, it is possible Barack's mother Stanley could have aborted him and the world would have been deprived of Barack's run for the presidency. Maybe Barack, should think about that and maybe all of us who are alive, should think about that.
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Gov. Palin (not Palen) is an inspiration to me, and I am not an evangelical. I am also not part of any so-called "fascist wing" of the GOP.
I am an independent. A single, middle class mother. Many others I have spoken to who are excited about Gov. Palin are also regular middle class folks.
Are we worried about an Obama administration? You betcha! |
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Dear Kate, you write "Those of you voting for BO, why???? Is it just because he is for "change?"
YES! YES YES YES -- You finally get it! That is E-X-A-C-T-L-Y why we are voting for him! Hell, we're just like you -- we didn't know who BO was 3 years ago either! THAT'S THE POINT!
Look (and I know this is gonna scare the hell out of most of you on this board) somewhere midway down this list of posts is an earlier post called "Homer's Odyssey' that pretty much details the litany of horrors we want changed.
Of course the evil "Democrats" had a hand in them -- they're part of government too -- BUT REPUBLICANS HAVE BEEN IN CHARGE 20 of the last 28 years AND LOOK WHERE WE ARE!!
Bozo could be running against McCain right now and he'd still be gettin his butt kicked. A well-dressed, cute little running mate isn't going to make a difference either. Not now. |
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Despite the grand delusion by the fascist Right Wing of the GOP, Palen scares the independent and undecided voters for multiple reasons. ALL polls show that. The only base she is reaching is evangelicals who want to believe in something after being used and abused by Bush and his Neo-cons to push their ideology, racists, trailer and bunker trash.
GOP needs to regroup and Palen is not it!!! Talk about dumbing down the standards. That is like rewarding the dumb and not the smart kid because he is a nerd. We should not reward a mediocre mind at best. It would give kids the wrong idea. |
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And one huge conservative base that has been ignored for years is conservative women. Most of the women I know are both fiscally AND culturally conservative.
But for the most part,when we say we are culturally conservative, what we mean is LEAVE GOVERNMENT OUT OF IT. We have no desire to step on the rights of homosexuals. "Live and let live" is our mantra.
Like Kristine, and like Sarah Palin, I cannot condone abortion. It is a moral failure of this country that we have treated abortion as an easy way out. We recognize that for the past few decades, "pro-choice" really meant "pro-abortion". That is unacceptable to us.
What is truly dead is the old vision of Feminism. The new vision, propelled by Sarah Palin's popularity, will embrace life. And will reject Barack Obama's notion that his daughters, or mine, should ever be "punished with a baby". |
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There are winners in this world and there are losers and Sarah Palin is a winner. Should McCain win and there is a good chance he may, Sarah will be the greatest vice president this country has ever witnessed. Will we hear it from the liberal press? Heck no! We the people will know and that is all that counts in the long run. Those of you voting for BO, why???? Is it just because he is for "change?" What change are you looking for? A free handout? Freedom from any moral laws? Freedom to lay around all day while your fellow Americans work their butts off so that BO can take their income and "spread it around?" If you are voting for Obama for these reasons you are truly unAmerican? If you are black and voting for Obama just because he is black and you think you are "Owed" this one, you are a bigot. There is a reason the Constitution does not give us the "right" to vote for president. It is because those who have learned to take from others have learned to get it by the vote. Our founders did not mean for this to happen. We are all to "pursue" happiness. We are not guaranteed it. Please think about this when you go to vote. Be a real American for a change.
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No matter what happens, the MSM has his back and will cover his bum. Everything will be interpreted as brilliant--or not his fault.
The libs own the entertainment industry, the MSM and the schools--every "information" outlet but a few con radio shows.
Just as everything now is Bush's fault, nothing will be Obama's fault. If McPalin win, everything will be their fault.
Conservatism doesn't have a chance unless cons can find clear-headed, trustworthy, convincing men and women to match their message. |
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There are losers in this world and there are winners and Sarah Palin is a winner. The left can say anything they want about her but if it isn't true, what's the use? She will either be the greatest vice president this nation has ever known should McCain win or she will be back in full force with her own people and take on Washington and the liberal press and will win every time. She has not been given the chance BO has. He comes out smelling bad every which way. You folks who are going to vote for him just how much do you really know about him??? Just that he's for "change?" What kind of change? Are you expecting a handout should he become president? Very unAmerican of you. Are you voting for him just because he is black? Very bigoted of you. I hope there are still alot of patriotic loyal Americans, ones who know how to read and know right from wrong who will come out in force Nov. 4 to vote for McCain. He is the best we've got right now, but at least in four years we will still have the America we know and love. BO wins, there is no hope. |
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If McCain loses, I still think the race is tight and could go either way, Palin's chances depend on 2010. Those of us who remember how bad of a President Carter was know that if Obama wins his first term will be a disaster. Palin is a shoe in for re-election in 2010. If she campaigns for Republicans and raises ten of millions of dollars for senate and congressional candidates in 2010 she will build up a lot of political capital and could lay the ground work for a Presidential run in 2012. If Obama wins the 2010 election will make look the Republican gains in 1994 look small. The Republican candidate for President in 2012 might weigh heavily on who helps the most number of candidates in 2010. I would expect Romney and Huckabee to run in 2012 if McCain loses. However, I would expect for the 2010 races Palin will get many more calls and requests from candidates to campaign for them than Romney and Huckabee. |
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The Messiah (Louis Farrakhan's words) says that 95% percent of Americans will get a "tax refund" or "tax rebate" or whatever he's calling it today, if he's elected President.......
Since 40% of Americans pay NO taxes, a big share of that tax refund/rebate is ACTUALLY WELFARE. You cannot get a refund/rebate on something you didn't pay. That is called a HANDOUT (Socialism)...... |
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Bryan,
You are a man i presume. You say you are pro-choice. hmmmm. I don't want to be synical here but why would a man be pro choice. I know two women with a story about choice, one who aborted a baby, one who carried her baby to term and put the baby up for adoption. The one now laments aborting the older sister or brother of the children who came later and the other feels she did the right thing by her child by having the child adopted. Abortion...choice are huge decisions, but abortion is an easy way out of a difficult situation that can have unhappy ramifications later on. The prevalence of abortion can show decline in the values of a society. What kind of a society we want to be is something we have to decide and then uphold.
But, in general, the ruggedly individualistic naure of Americans, informs me that I do not think Americans want to tell other people what to do in their personal lives, but they don't want to pay for other peoples recklessness or bad decisions. I think that the way of America is to try to do the right thing and while those Americans who have a strong moral opposition to abortion and homosexuality, exist and have a rightful place in the conservative movement, they are going to obey the law of the land on these matters and certainly not crucify anyone for something like homosexuality. |
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How do you try abstinence?
Sarah's problem is that she energizes the conservative base. That base is precisely what most Americans see as the wrong direction in politics. Soon it will be gone; the world moves on. |
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I am a big Palin fan, and I looked into her impressive future. She is single handedly more qualified to be President than Obama.
Most of america has not informed themselves, and the information they have received is inaccurate. Just as much as most americans are overlooking Obama's dismal life accomplishments, they are over looking what an impressive candidate Palin is.
Anyone that doesn't think this is a woman of substance has not been watching. I challenge anyone to handle how she has been treated with such class and elegance. She does not swipe back at mountain of lies written and said about her. She moves forward and looks at what is best for america.
I can not stand Hillary Clinton, but I would rather her run america than Obama any day. |
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Bryce1, You seem rational and you seem to know more than I do about Alaska. I detect that you might be an independent-minded person like me! You are of the belief that both Obama and Palin don't have enough experience. I feel that Obama is a tool of the left. He's their darling; he looks good; he speaks well, he has charisma. But they may own him lock, stock and barrel and this country serves us all best when it is in the moderate camp. That is my personal opinion. If Palin lacks experience (and I don't think she does), Obama's experience comes from shady, corrupt political alliances in Chicago. I think Palin would be fine as VP. With Obama, I would constantly be wondering who he is being influenced by and who he is in the pocket of. |
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Before you write either a eulogy for conservatism or a plea for its resurrection it makes sense to decide just what conservatism is.
Is it "the Bible told me so" conservatism?
Is it free market conservatism?
Is it small government conservatism?
Is it individual rights conservatism?
Is it "national greatness" conservatism?
There are more versions of conservatism than anyone could name in 2000 characters.
Do you want to keep things as they are or do you want to undo the New Deal, privatize social security, end farm and business subsidies?
Close the border? Allow more immigration? Home schooling? Abolish public education? Tax credits for education? Strengthen public schools? Vouchers for education? Abolish abortion? Abolish drugs? Bring back Prohibition? Allow medical marijuana? Legalize marijuana? Put drug dealers to death? Legalize prostitution? Life imprisonment for prostitution? Sell the airwaves? Censor the airwaves? Censor the internet? Protect freedom of speech on the internet? Abolish the Federal Reserve? Establish a gold standard? Increase foreign trade? Abolish foreign trade?
Every one of these positions has been described as conservative at one time or another and I'm fairly sure that you can find people on this blog that will argue either side of the issues above and still identify themselves as "conservatives".
There is a big difference between the individualist conservatism of Barry Goldwater and the big government conservatism of George Bush.
Better figure out what you want before you do anything else. |
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I think this starts with a CLEAR definition of conservatism. The problem, as I see it, is that there is fiscal conservatism which is the realm of governance, and then there is social conservatism which centers more on cultural viewpoints and traditions.
Some conservatives focus on the first, others on the second and the message gets confusing to someone like me, watching from the outside. For instance, I believe in smaller government. I think that people should be rewarded with opportunity, not welfare, and that every American issue from national security, to the housing crisis, has a solution that begins with strengthening our educational system. I believe that we need a strong, well-trained, well-funded military at all times.
But...I'm pro-choice and I don't think gay people are going to hell.
On issues of governance I can find plenty of common ground with conservatives. I'm wary of the total commitment to the rich that the GOP loves to bellow, but more transparency on business practices could alleviate the corruption I fear has gotten free range under Bush.
But on these social issues...I feel like I'm more tolerant than the GOP would ever hope to be...so I wind up blue. |
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Come on, guy. You know Obama does not manage his campaign. All candidates have campaign managers. It's true Palin isn't long on experience, but even if what you describe is exactly correct, it is still more than Obama and he's #1 on the ticket. Go ahead and vote for him, but don't peddle your argument here. You're a lefty and you will vote for whomever the lefties put up and rationalize your vote.
BTW, why are you criticizing Palin for running a "welfare state"? That's what you lefties are all about. If Palin ever gets elected Pres and she runs the Fed government the way the Dems and the 2000-2006 Reps did, we will vote her out ASAP. BTW, 'W' ain't unpopular with us because of the war, it's because he didn't manage Iraq well enough and he spent money like a Dem. |
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works every time it's tried... |
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William, now you are talking the nuts and bolts.
I don't think that Sarah Palin has anything do do with the economic problems we now have. Bush, yes, the SEC chairman yes, Christopher Dodd and Barney Frank and Chuck Schumer, yes, by insisting that Fannie Mae and Freddi Mac were not under-regulated and by the books being cooked under the watch of Franklin Raines, whom Maxine Waters said was an excellent excecutive and manager in one or the other of those entities. Our current economic problems were seeded in the Carter administration, continues under Clinton and busted open all over the place under Bush. Don't let your friends off the hook so easily anymore then you would let George Bush of the hook. The corruption runs deep into the Democratic party. They aren't angels. Too keep myself balanced I keep a cartoon on my desk that says 'every politician deserves two terms; one in office and one in jail.'
By the way I got gas for $3.09 today in pricey California. I know I carpool and drive a gas sipper and i think that all the folks buying hybrids, and those insisting we drill here and drill now, combined, are helping the cost of gas go down.
I can tell that you are upset about the way the war was handled, but Sarah Palin was not involved in that and John McCain disagreed with the way it was handled and stood up for the surge which seems to be working. I notice that any war started by or agreed to by the Democratic party is never an issue--it is only an issue and wrong if it is associated with the Republican party, rightly or wrongly. We all wanted to fight against terrorism. The whole congress did, with very few exceptions.
As to what other countries think of us. That is not our top priority, nor is what we think of them, their top priority.
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Is less than two years running a state that has two economies, oil and government. She resides over a legislature that meets 90 days a year. She presides over a state that has less than 300 foreclosures statewide. She also manages an economy that gets $1.84 back from the Feds for each dollar they send out in Federal taxes. This allows her to sit on a 40 BILLION DOLLAR reserve fund that is not used for capital expenditures while the Feds pick up the tab for their expenditures.
Experience as Governor of the ulitmate welfare state is hardly preparation for dealing with the challenges of the day.
Additionally, while I have concerns about Obama's light resume but take great comfort in seeing him manage the most organized and disciplined NATIONWIDE campaign in recent history. |
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You are so right, Matt. Conservatism isn't dead. Sorry lefties but it's true. If it were dead then McCain's sagging poll numbers would not have jumped up after his Reaganesque Saddleback performance and his selection of Palin. Hopefully all the RINOs will jump ship as they have been doing lately, renounce the Reps and vote for Obama. That hopefully will leave the Rep Party to the folks who can see clearly. Like Rush said, the Rockefeller wing got their 'perfect candidate' in McCain and look what's happened. The Indies and moderate Dems can't make up their minds - still, Duh, and McCain can't break 45% even with Palin on his ticket. In my mind, the biggest question is whether the Rep party should remain the party of conservatives in the U.S. or should we all form a third party in which no RINOs/Rockefellers and Dems are allowed. If it's the third party route, we better develope some really strict initiation rights to keep the phonies out. |
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it IS a compliment with us guys. (And you can't possibly know it is a porn term because it is Sunday and you are a Conservative --- hmmmmmmmm.)
Anyway. Just funnin' with y'all but yur clearly not in the mood today so see ya at the polls.
Good luck. |
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Sarah Palin is the by-product of a party that through the efforts of George W. Bush, has tried and failed to eliminate discourse and discussion in modern American politics.
Okay, that's better. I had a complete brain fart at the end of the last post. My apologies.
- BH
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I'm on the left, but I'll listen to Mike Huckabee. Why? Because he makes compelling, compassionate arguments for the conservative viewpoint. I rarely get sarcasm from his tone, nor does he seem to dismiss people that think about the world differently than he does.
Politics is an art of persuasion. Like in trial law (a skill set that Obama has mastered) the real task isn't judging the accused, but rather convincing the jury to judge the accused. Through empathy. Through an understanding of the human heart and it's governance over the rational mind.
Sarah Palin does inspire the base, but she does it in the most divisive ways possible. She lives in a world of "us" and "them". She comes armed with ad hominem arguments, stoking a cultural war that most people on the right and the left don't want to fight.
Christ sought out sinners as his audience because he wanted to save people, not pass judgement on them. Sarah Palin scorns those who "sin" against her viewpoint. That may make her a hero to the already converted, but hardly a leader that can bring more into the fold.
President Palin is a dream of those who are afraid of discourse, but the conservatives I know and respect embrace discourse. Reagan respected discourse. Nixon, amidst his faults, respected discourse.
Sarah Palin is the by-product of a party that George W. Bush has tried and failed to destroy discourse and dialectic in America.
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Geez, there's just no fun left in the ol' GOP anymore. Must be a Sunday. Anyway, just to show I do have intelligent thought, when you boys climb down from your Republican tree fort next week be sure to wipe this stuff off the bottom of your shoes before you come back into the house or Ma will be ticked:
- An economy in free-fall
- Record home foreclosures
- The first major bank failings since the Great Depression
- Gasoline close to $5 this summer (which represents nearly a 200% increase from the day before the Bush administration took office.)
- An unprovoked, verifiably disingenuous and immoral invasion and war in Iraq -- now lasting longer than WWII, and with no chance of the same result
- A losing war in Afghanistan, suffered because of the foolish Iraq commitment
- A disgraced Presidential Office – to the point its occupant is either openly mocked by world leaders or simply ignored
- The highest % dependency on Middle Eastern oil in our country’s history
- No viable alternative energy plan to replace that oil – a foreign commodity for which our children die that will be exhausted in less than 70 years.
- Record numbers of Americans unable to afford health insurance
- An almost incomprehensible swing in our national budget from a $200+ billion dollar surplus in 2000 to a $482 billion red-ink deficit today
- An automotive and technology sector, once second to none, now imploding
- Oh, and the real bad guy? Osama Bin Laden? Still a Rockstar on Al Jazeera television, just as he will be long after your President “Dead or Alive” Bush is saddled up back on his oil biz ranch.
Now THAT's epic stuff Homer!
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I don't think anyone here has ever told you this but you are an excellent writer and your postings are always well documented and supported by sound arguments. BTW, the next time you leave the room, please flush. |
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Re: bill the carpenter to William. Some smart person said that profanity is a device to articulate ignorance. If milf is shorthand profanity, know that it comes from insecurity and fear of Sarah Palin.
I agree with Grubby and would add that Sarah is the star of McCain's ticket. If McCain loses it is because he equivocates too much. He is the better man for the job of President, but he needs to spend less time saying 'look' and 'my friend' and more time straight talking. Also if he loses, it will be because he and Obama are too similar, both open borders, and bailout supporters. Easy to solve everything by picking the pockets of tax payers instead of fighting corruption.
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no misunderstanding bs ,that's a porn term and out of line it's not a compliment anywhere |
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V.P. candidate Sarah Palin has had years of executive experience, from local to state government levels, responsible for decision making, executing policies, budgets, payrolls, etc.
Presidential candidate Barack Obama has never managed so much as a car wash or a candy counter! And he's running for "Chief Executive"???
Be careful what you vote for. There's E.Coli in those smoothies he's serving up, America!
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Leave and do not post on TH because you are bereft of human decency and intelligent thought.
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You're completely wrong (and possibly Blind) to assert that Palin was doing fine until the economy tanked. Palin came across ok when she was acting as a glovepuppet. Whenever she tried on her own (including her incoherent debate performance ) she was hopeless . The economy trouble just coincided wityh teh world getting a closer look at Palin and seeing the lack of ethics truthfulness and ability that was the real Sarah.
You must be desperate to peddle this rubbish!!! |
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At the rinks we play at its a compliment. Probly just a "regional" misunderstanding. She'd get it. |
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the milf crack is over the top .don't like her politics ,fine .thats fair game the milf is just wrong |
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For some time now, the media has been trying to besmirch Gov Palin's reputation and downgrade her effectiveness in rejuvenating an otherwise moribund McCain candidacy. The charge of rabid and offensive crowds fell flat as well.
McCain chose her in order to exploit her strong conservative credentials and popularity with the republican base as opposed to his less than popular moderate bipartisanship. There have been differences which she has chosen not to emphasize preferring instead to highlight those strengths and views of the candidate with which she can agree.
I don't blame Sarah for having her difference - McCain is not an easy man to trust or agree with on all things. She should not have to act as McCain's parrot.
From the very beginning, McCain's campaign staff was determined to script her performance and not let Sarah be herself. These are the same brainiacs who've been producing these assembly line limp wristed jerks who are continually compromising and dragging the GOP down.
Now it seems the staff wants to position itself to blame Sarah for a McCain defeat. That's why she's become less inclined to listen to them. From nowhere else could the story of the $150K in clothes come from other than a treacherous staff that wants to see her politically damaged and conservatism marginalized.
It isn't going to happen and if McCain goes down, no one's to blame but McCain - and his staff. At every turn, he's refused to name dhimmi names or expose the chosen one. He still wants to maintain his insider role as he did with the bailout.
Whatever happens, Gov Palin's going to emerge from this campaign unblemished, uncompromised and much more familiar to and popular with the conservative republican base than she was beforehand, and potentially a future president.
And the staff? They can only hope they bet on the right horse because their advice stinks. |
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Sarah Palin 2016! The advantage Republicans have and always will have, is that we are on God's side. Perhaps America will slip and fall into the New World Order during the end times, but perhaps not. The poor, silly Democrats don't understand....God wins! |
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Palin not ready for Presidency?
Ditto for Obama.
Biden....."Obama not ready"..."job not suitable for on the job training"..."I would be honored to serve as McCain's VP".
Hillary....."Obama not ready for the job"
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If the borders are opened wide as we can expect with Obama as President, and even quite possibly McCain, liberalism could take over as the libs always promise to "do things and provide things" for people. This will continue to change the electorate to become more left leaning as people come drawn to the goodies. So the liberal, socialist, democrats, have a good basis to assume that the tides have turned in their favor.
The Republican party HAS helped to turn the tide and left itself open to failure, by not heeding the common sense notion that a sovereign country must control its borders and protect its citizens from watering down their vote and other effects of too much growth, too fast. Some force seems to control the Republican party that we in the ranks cannot accept or understand and it is splintering us.
Some key Republicans and one John McCain have not helped their party be strong and I'm sure that they know this. A true conservative party does not exist right now in a viable form.
I look down the road and I see an America with 350 million people in my life-time, mostly new arrivals who have nothing in their memory banks about the old America and who think that our liberal ways are the norm.
Republicans have failed to protect the principles and political philosophy that most Republicans support. They have nowhere to turn, but away. |
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I guess she's not as popular in Alaska anymore:
Yet despite her formidable gifts, few who have worked closely with the governor would argue she is truly ready to assume command of the most important, powerful nation on earth. To step in and juggle the demands of an economic meltdown, two deadly wars and a deteriorating climate crisis would stretch the governor beyond her range. Like picking Sen. McCain for president, putting her one 72-year-old heartbeat from the leadership of the free world is just too risky at this time.
http://www.adn.com/opinion/story/567867.html
But you know those beltway elites in Alaska! |
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It will help you digest the drek this guy is feeding you. |
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NO, No ,NO !
http://allainjulesblog.blogspot.com/ |
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