Friday, September 21, 2007
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Giuliani / Perry '08?
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Posted by:
Matt Lewis at
8:58 AM
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The other week, I reported that Texas Governor Rick Perry might be on the short list of possible Rudy Giuliani running mates.
This story seems to confirm that my prediction, at least, wasn't totally absurd ...
Giuliani has also developed a bond with Texas Gov. Rick Perry, whom he helped win re-election last year. That groundwork could make Perry a high-profile ally in Texas, although the governor hasn't yet endorsed a presidential candidate.
Bracewell & Giuliani's political action committee gave $10,000 to Perry a year ago, just a few weeks before his re-election. Perry and Giuliani have talked in person and by telephone several times and have a good relationship, Black said.
... But Perry's Giuliani connection may represent both a bright national future for the governor, as well as trouble back home among his base:
Bracewell & Giuliani represents a business consortium involved in the Trans-Texas Corridor, a costly, high-profile toll road pushed by Perry and opposed by farmers and ranchers.
Many Texas grassroots conservatives whom I talked to last week had clearly turned on Perry. One of their criticisms has to do with this proposed superhighway which would go from the Mexican border to Oklahoma. As noted above, Bracewell & Giuliani represent business interests pushing this Texas Corridor.
This is not to say that Perry has lost Texas Republicans. A few weeks ago, I attended the Texas GOP Straw Poll. A video of Perry was played that received tremendous applaus. Rarely have I seen a video get applause ...
But while Perry's stock may have slipped among Texas conservative activists, these same grassroots conservatives fail to realize Perry's perception outside the state of Texas is what matters most to future VP considerations.
This is for two reasons for this: One, Texans will never vote for Hillary or Obama, regardless of who is on the top of the GOP ticket. So there is no fear of losing the state.
Second, outside Texas, at least, Perry is still highly regarded as a reliably conservative southern governor who could help a candidate like Giuliani temper his moderate image (he recently stood up to California governor Arnold Schwarzenegger for calling on the GOP to become more moderate). What is more, Perry, a skilled fundraiser, could help raise lots of money from other Red states.
You heard it here first...
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someone give Jack his meds. |
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None. But the money people and the RNC want someone who will not stop the cheap labor express. |
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What position does Rudy have that would be considered traditional conservative? I can't think of one. Also he makes Bill Clinton look like a deacon |
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Applause at the straw poll? Those were his people, just like the fringe Ron Paul types that showed up to support that brand of inanity. Tricky Ricky's people would certainly put on a nice show for him at the straw poll.
While conservative Texans will not vote for Hillary, Obama, etc, we likely won't cast a vote for a Republican ticket with Rick Perry as the running mate. Not just because of the super highway, but due to numerous misrepresentations and lies told to us by him. Any candidate carrying Governor Goodhair as the VP nominee would open himself up to questions about judgement and true intentions if elected.
The Republican party should feel good about Rick Perry nationally if its goal is to continue the downward sprial it began in November of '06. All it has to do is cast Rick Perry in the #2 slot on the ticket and then watch Texas go blue. |
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If you folks think George Bush is dumb, wait until you get a load of Governor Goodhair! |
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One other thought for everyone - Matt Lewis is the messenger, let's not shoot at him.
If the GOP money-men are truly scheming a Rudy/Perry ticket, pulling the levers behind the curtain Wizard of Oz style - it is a good thing Matt has alerted us to this!
Thanks, Matt, keep on doing what you do. We need to know. |
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From the perspective of a fifth-generation Texan:
Matt - think again - the national GOP had no fear of losing while on a spending binge, open-borders binge, etc.
The Texas GOP is as sick as an armadillo on a bad tequila hangover.
GOP voter turnout was abysmal in the last vote for a governor. MANY JUST STAYED HOME IN DISGUST.
We could not even hold Tom Delay's "safe" seat.
Just a little bit of Tricky Ricky politics will cause Texas GOP voters to stay home, AGAIN, thereby letting the Dems have free run at Texas' Electoral College Votes.
A Rudy/Tricky Ricky ticket would mean a Democrat Electoral College landslide.
Guiliani deserves someone capable, Rudy is too good of a man to be burdened by Tricky Ricky.
Let's all quit playing games, and vote for the true America first candidate -
VOTE DUNCAN HUNTER
http://www.GoHunter08.com |
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Texas conservatives have not turned on Perry. Once re-elected HE turned on us. Don't look for us to forget that. |
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The fastest way for Rudy to lose the TX primary is to name Rick Perry as VP. |
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The fastest way for Rudy to lose the TX primary is to name Rick Perry as VP. |
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Giuliani/Perry, if it happens, the GOP will be crushed. That will make room for a new party, much the same way the Whigs made way for the GOP. |
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Guiliani,
Defeated On Arrival.
The reason is majority of conservative base, which let the Republicans defeated in 2006, would never support Guiliani. Plain and simple.
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Don't bet on Rudy holding the GOP base. Many will not bother if the choice is New York liberal A or B. Or R or D. |
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Why not Huckabee or Thompson , is he fails to win the numero uno role? They give conservatives real representation , can win the South and even some purple states. The Pub purists are ranting again about sitting it out. Elections have consequences so we will have Dems running Congress, the WH, and Court appointments for a generation. These purists just cannot get over the fact that Ronaldus Magnus doesn't live here anymore and that we get Hillary. Period. I know that hurts and whips the breezes of unreality for those who live in an insulated political tunnel but oh I wish Ronnie were here. But, he is not. I will take the best we have to actually win an election. You can wait till the cows come home for the perfect conservative storm. It't ain't coming folks , much as you twist and turn in your thinking and feelings. BTW, most Southern and Border states will not vote for Hil because Independents and Reagan Dems still left to think and vote will never vote for her. See Battleground Poll. |
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Perry on the ticket would force me NOT to vote for Guiliani (or anyone else with Perry on the ticket). Perry is a slick RINO liar smarm.
I agree with VIRGINIA PATRIOT.
I'd have to sit it out and hope that a conservative party would emerge someday. |
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out of it's misery. We don't want to vote for liberals in the republican elections. What the hell is wrong with you people! You people are traitors to the American people. As a conservative, I will vote for Hillary before I will vote for Rudy, Mitt, Fred, or John. Give us a real conservative or suffer the consequences at the voting booth. Close the borders, stop importing cheap labor, stop outsourcing our jobs. We don't want your North American Union. We want the government for the people and by the people. Not by big business for big business. Grassroots are getting pissed off at big business. I think you people are out of touch. You don't realize just how pissed off democarts, republicans, independents are with the current system!
Give us a real consevative like Ron Paul! This grass roots movement is getting bigger by the day, you better pick your side, the people or big business! Your little "experiment" is coming to an end! God bless the people of the United States of America, big business - you're going down. And you know just how difficult it will be for you when even the conservatives turn againt you! |
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Matt, while you are right that most Texans wont vote for Hillary, Rudy picking Rick Perry for VP will signal with big neon letters that he is a RINO worse that GWB. It will signal with big neon letters that all the problems that we have had over the last administration will only get worse. While that wont get Texans to vote for Hillary, it will get them to stay home, and that could give the Dems enough of a leg up, that they could push to try to win here in Texas.
While having Perry on the ticket may give you help in the rest of the south, it will put Texas back in play for a possible Dem win. How useful is it to lock states you already have only to lose the biggest red state.
Rudy, please, you have been doing all the right things this month. Dont ruin it by picking a RINO beltway insider wannabe for running mate. Rudy, if you want a Texan on the ticket, this Texan will second the move to recruit John Cornyn for VP. |
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Same as Bush. Make them all legal.
Don't bet on Rudy holding the GOP base. Many will not bother if the choice is New York liberal A or B. Or R or D.
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Si se puede (Yes We Can)
Yes we can:
Ignore your laws.
Enter your country any time we feel like it.
Collect benefits to which we are not entitled.
Tell you what your immigration policies should be.
File thousands of lawsuits to prevent you from enforcing your laws.
Vote in your elections fradulently.
Take your country.
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Why would anybody even show up to vote, if the choice is a liberal republican against a liberal democrat?....They are just parties!....The voters will turn out, but to vote 3rd party in the general election..........Besides, Rudy is hopeing that voters don't know that (ALL LIARS ARE NOT ADULTERERS....BUT ALL ADULTERERS ARE LIARS!)......It's a CORE character issue. |
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It appears Matt's phonograph is having problems. The needle is stuck in the same groove, on the SAME Rick Perry record album.
Would somebody tell Matt to please pick up the phonograph arm and move the needle a couple of grooves over? Better yet, just take the freakin' record off and throw it in the trash can! Hey Matt, ya got any REAL CONSERVATIVE albums you can play for us?
Read our lips: "We don't want any open borders 'folk comin' 'round y'ere no mo!" |
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If Rudy takes Rick Perry on his ticket, at least Texans will know he is no Republican. Perry is a RINO and has been quick to show his democrat views since he safely won his second term as governor of Texas. His utterly misplaced belief that he could override the TX Lege and mandate that all young girls be required to get a series of immunizations for an STD that they "possibly" could contract in the future was outrageous. Maybe he should be considered to run with Hillary. If there is any Texan who deserves a shot at the White House again in my lifetime, it is JOHN CORNYN. |
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If he can't get an amnesty no one can! |
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Best bet for 2008. Thompson can bring in the southern states, he has conservative bonafides and Rudy's experience in running New York supercedes any lack of management on a high lvl, which I think is Fred's primary drawback. |
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is a very big deal, and part of the plans for creating the North American Union. The "Amero" to replace the dollar is now being minted at the Denver mint while they refuse the public to come in. Perry is a GLOBALIST and Texans know it! |
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You're going to have to get alot of Dems. to switch to make up for the gun owners, amnesty opponents, pro-life, and traditional marriage voters who will not vote for him. The crickets will be heard Nov. '08. |
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Maybe the GOP will also hire the entire Bracewell-Giuliani open-borders law firm to staff the executive branch. |
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Matt meet Lord Acton. Allow me to paraphrase, "Those that forget history are condemened to repeat it."
Ignoring or thumbing your nose at those who pay the taxes, work hard, whose demographic is and always has been well represented in the military, who love their children, and actually want them to have the opportunity to prosper in a sovereign nation, well let's just say your rationale doesn't sit well.
We, I will take the liberty of speaking for us, are fed up, repeat, FED UP with Quislings who are bent on making merchandise of this nation. Folks have had it with politicians who are, apparently, completely indifferent to the plight of those who actually have to live outside the beltway and bear the burdens of the manifest effects of illegal immigration. http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/
So get some sort of automotive lubricant and apply it to your clutch, because you are stuck on it.
I have no illusions as to who Hillary Clinton is or what she represents. But if you think we are sheep, and only this authoritarian, ideological soulmate of Hillary is worthy of our vote, and only he can shepherd us to the promised land, your delusional. |
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Rick Perry is the only GOP candidate for Governor to lose Dallas County in (30) years. Governor Neo-Con was re-elected last year with 39% of the vote statewide.
If you are a lobbyist with lots of money, Rick Perry is your politician. |
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The Republican Party under GWB seems intent on political suicide. Pandering to citizens of other countries illegally in our country while telling us we must be vigilantes if we object to illegal aliens ignoring our borders and laws. Mel Martinez is RNC Chairman to ensure an open borders candidate in '08. The cheap labor express will be kept running, regardless of the consequences, to party or country. GOP-RIP |
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A Giuliani/Perry ticket of 2 cheap labor importers will guarantee a GOP BLOWOUT. You are right, conservatives will not vote for Hillary, they won't vote for Rudy/Rick either. We will not assist the dissolution of our country. If it takes crushing the GOP so that a new party can arise, so be it. |
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I must confess that I don't know much about Rick Perry -- though I've heard that he is an illegal alien pandering open borders type that should fit right in with Giuliani's politics.
But here is what I find most interesting about this article...
"But while Perry's stock may have slipped among Texas conservative activists, these same grassroots conservatives fail to realize Perry's perception outside the state of Texas is what matters most to future VP considerations."
So in other words the people that know Gov. Perry most intimately know that he really isn't a conservative, but those outside the state that simply assume a Republican southern governor HAS to be conservative will think he balances Giuliani's moderate leanings. Doesn't that sum up the state of today's GOP: Symbolism over Substance - Perception over Reality |
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